FAKE CONDUCTING? Classical Violinists Review Orchestral TV Scene (Nodame Cantabile)
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"I'm glad they put some sort of effort into making this look realistic."
5 seconds later: instruments go crazy
LOL, I read your comment as soon as it happened 😂
I like impulsesv too
@@jennal.4240 Yo same the frick
Welcome to marching orchestra
A second into the video: *one* violin note starts playing
TwoSet: nOw wAiT jUsT a sEConD
They are so _A_ mazing they can determine the flaws of a scene just hearing one note played.
I mean I’m a beginner and I noticed it didn’t sound right lol
To get that dissonance there's at least two violins playing
@@alleny2971 Actually someone could be double-stopping and failing
@@theresawood8378 Was that “A” a pun?
i cant stop laughing at how they tried to do anime haircuts to some characters
Shinigami San what about goku
I think it's actually amazing! I hate when the actors don't resemble the character design.
Is the film a live action anime?
@@mithruikka yeah. It was adapted from manga/anime
@@mithruikka no it's a japanese drama about people going to music school NOT anime
"we're violinists, we're humble, we sit"
More like "We ain't standing up for these fools"
That's what I said
violinists are the *least* humble members of the orchestra hands down lol
@@yanasto That was the whole joke (and why they piped up because violist were standing). Constant jabbing between violinists and violists. xD
It is what it is.
Also hard to claim you're humble when you never shut up about your perfect pitch. XD
“Violin players rely on gravity to put pressure on the strings.”
*laughs in cellist*
AHAHAHHAHAHAHSGSHS
Yes jeez
😂😂😂I cant breath
Madeleine Berls Same! It would be SO much easier...
That's why he said violin 🙄
Nodame Cantabile anime: B natural
Nodame Cantabile live action: *B flat*
*I N T E R E S T I N G*
Personally I like me some C flat
hey they're both good 😂
Saladin Masala aw man I wanted to comment that
How pathetic it must B E
In Japan, all cameras are legally required to make a shutter sound. This is because the Japanese government is trying to fight against upskirt photographers. It is messed up, but it was common enough in Japan that the government felt the need to put this law in place. Some smart phone companies even use the GPS on your phone to know if you are in Japan. They will force your camera's sound on when you enter the country and only turn it off when you leave.
That’s crazy I never knew that was such a problem over there
If I ever go to Japan I’ll only pack hazmat suits and that popular dinosaur thing you can wear
What are upskirt photographers?
Oh...nvm I just connected the dots in my brain
Ew.
@@itzelramirez4801 sadly it's quite common everywhere in Japan. Because of stressful environment, there are tons of people who relieve their stresses by harassing someone else. Including myself, so many of my friends have experienced something similar. And even if it happened on a train, during daytime and people around you realized what's going on, or even if you asked for their help, most of people will just ignore you😢
Twoset: "I'm glad they put some effort in to make it look realistic."
TV Show: *CELLO SPINNNN*
When orchestra ppl play bayblade too much
Eddy: But the...
Brett: the... the...
In unison: **ThE ViOLaS**
Hahaha i know right?😂
Leave my violas be hahahaah
700th like
@@itsyuuki Dude crazy!
@@chloemalley5134 congrats
"The concertmaster is one of the main characters"
Hmmm idk he's _the only one_ with messy blonde hair red pants and freaking GLOVES so I guesSSS?
That works in anime but in cheap live action it looks so cringey
Gildas P It’s cringey because the hair is too fake, they should do a more natural hairstyle or idkkk cast an _actual blonde person_ ?
@@RadenWA the gloves are kind of meh tho aswell.
Never saw this violin anime, but he looks like Shinigami Eric Slingby.
@@RadenWA In the manga/anime, that character is just a typical punk aesthetic Japanese kid that bleached his hair. So no need for an "actual blonde person."
2020,
"I'm a little bit sick"
"You're a little bit WHAT"
Me too lmaooo
Yeah I went scared AF and then saw the date of the vid... so relieved lmao
Lol
I know!
That’s what I thought
As a wind player, you have to be very careful elevating your instrument because as you play, saliva builds up in the instrument, and if you tilt your instrument to high, guess what's headed straight to your throat!
Not saliva, unless you actually spit instead of blowing. It's condensation from the hot air hitting the colder instrument
@@janne7263 At least some of it is saliva. Fluid droplets come out of your mouth when you blow air, not just when you intentionally spit. That's why coughing spreads airborne diseases more easily compared to exhaling from your nose with your mouth closed
Happens to some amateurs with the trombone if they raise it too high. 😆
Trumpet players in marching bands drinking their own saliva for hydration during a horns-up be like
The worst part of marching band 😭
this is the gentlest i've seen brett and eddy go at actor-violinists
at least you can see those actors have practiced quite hard before shooting
Because they were much more decent than usual. I mean it wasnt perfect, but it was better
OH BIG FACTS
Cuz they liked the anime lol
Because the actors actually tried to at least make an effort to look somewhat accurate
two set: Oh look real musicians.
Me, a Percussionist: That timpanist has never touched a mallet before.
He's probably an actor cause he's one of the main characters 👀
He IS an actor! One of main characters.
He looked at the camera when it focused on him.
He looked so excited to hit the notes though 😂
@@winna7727 with that hair i would hope he was one
Imagine being a professional orchestra musician having to play with the actor's weird conducting. I'm pretty sure they were like "we're not being paid enough for this shit"
After this is over, they go back to being professional musicians and have a funny story to tell.
Now, imagine that you are an actor or director who worked to perfect your craft, but got stuck working on live action TV adaptations of popular manga for the rest of your professional career...
I’m sure the orchestra did the recording first, then they film it with the actors.
same
@@hypothalapotamus5293 either he actually wanted to do it, or he was going to get paid enough that he was willing to do it, or both
Fr i was thinking if they feel offended doing those weird stunts, i hope they received good payment and funny memories 😂
Brett: “Where’s the gravity going, to your FACE!”
I actually laughed out loud😭🤣
Finally, the comment I've been looking for!
The editing adds so much too, I love this style
Props to the editer in each of their videos ;-;
Bringing boyfriend to his first classical concert ever:
BF: "That guy with the stick in the middle... what instrument does he play?"
XD
@@corundum-voidlessm6480 all of them! at once!!
LMAO XD
The stick obviously, why else would he be holding it? He obviously plays the stick :/
salmiak333 😂😂😂
Me: OK NOTHING CAN STOP ME FROM PRACTICING NOW
Twoset: hold our bubble tea.
Kyuu Kirigaya how tf did you get so many likes?
Twoset : Not today kiddo
NO
YoU hAvE tO PrAcTiCe
Bro that's literally me every day
weird baby Bro idk how but Kyuu always gets a lot of likes on comments😂😂😂 I guess she's like Justin Y lol
If i ever be a film maker... I wont make a movie about music or orchestra..
Because i know that this two dudes gonna roast my film 😂
Just hire them as consultants... 😁
Or they could praise the movie if it’s accurate
Or incorporate your effort in hiring real musicians and become a better film maker
yeah
they could help your film get popular 😁
Twoset: "I've never seen trumpets played liked that, people just don't do it"
Ska trumpet players: let me show you something
Lol my marching band during our fight song and hype song
(But also just regular visuals during marching shows, like fr I wish twoset would review some of the top DCI shows from the 2000’s-2010’s because they would be absolutely in awe)
Yeah, I was about to say marching bands got something in store for them lol
I'd live to see them react to a good marching band - and yes, it does tune up those core muscles to play, march and twist all at the same time!
Yeah but they do not rise it up so high, I think, it is much more gentle and more left right motion than sharply high left right motion...I think it would be very difficult. I tried it once only a little swing and it so so much harder, this sharp big rapidly motions would be very difficult, almost impossible...
For example: th-cam.com/video/DPOeGWl6x4E/w-d-xo.html yes they are moving with intstrument, but
1) they are not moving just the instrument from left right, they are moving with
2) the instruments are not risen up to the sky, they are just moving from left to right or vice versa...
and that is the major difference, why is so unreal, even if ska brass players do it, because they do it naturally...
you could play like that, i've tried that, but it's very disgusting because all of the cold spit just goes into your mouth. Not pleasant.
“Normally the conductor doesn’t walk in before they’ve finished tuning”
Loooooolllll our conductor has to supervise us while we tune cos we’re all just completely incompetent
sounds like middle school bands
@SprinklesCakebottom and you are?
@@xanthmardon584 sounds like you were going to come at him lmao
@@Twitchte yea i can see that
@@xanthmardon584 Roast him! What are you waiting for! Come on! Give me more comment drama!
you shouldn't play a trumpet pointing upward if you've been playing for a while... gravity mixed with the spit you produced... *bad memories*
I played clarinet and.... yeah I was choked by my spit (don't ask me why did I point my instrument upward 😂
the french horns near the end have it much worse...
I once tried to foolishly play in bed while facing upwards. 100% NEVER GOING TO DO IT AGAIN
Well, maybe i'm not pointing that staight up, but I've never had a problem with scene coreography before.
As a marching band player i know what you mean. But we still do this as a showmanship point. Watch some drum Corps competitions. Then you’ll get what i mean.
14:28 as a trumpet player, I can tell you this is very possible. Horn flashes are pretty common in marching bands, and just to have some fun during a song. Marching band also tends to require a higher horn angle because your audience is above you. (It's super fun when the spit starts rolling back through the mouthpiece)
tl;dr: It's just trumpets being trumpets :)
Yeah all the things they’re saying “I don’t know if that’s possible for the winds” are just common marching band moves. As long as your shoulders move separately from your core it’s totally doable :p
I would love them to watch a DCI show! I know fuck all about orchestra but I’d love to see what they think of my first love: an entire football field of band kids. 😂
I forget which marching song it is that has it, I believe it is Land of a thousand dances or The Horse
The first Nodame Cantabile is supposed to be a pretty bad orchestra so it's actually quite good how they portrayed that even through the tuning
nah m8 i just think the orchestra just doesnt know how 2 tune XD
As I remember the plot correctly that’s true, it was a bad orchestra of students who were not studying well
@@sparklyseed9227 19:03 I'm certa8n these people know what they are doing, but yeah keep hating
Brett: "I'm glad they put some sort of effort- trying to make it more realistic"
The orchestra: *cellos spin, violinists lift violins sacrilegiously high, flutes start tweeting at the ceiling*
well.... that escalated quickly :D .... maybe, it can also escalate slowly... :D hahahahah
But THE TRUMPETS WAVING IN THE BACKGROUND THOUGH
I may or may not get yelled at a lot by the director
Francisco Behan Morillo mood
The timing hahahaha
"i don't think you can do *this* with a flute"
*laughs in marching band*
When we did parades we would march and dance along to the music and sometimes we would do movements like that and although we could still play it didn't sound quite nice.
@@andoeniespinoza5736 I can imagine, cause you got aerodynamic interference on a wind instrument, lololol.
I can see how challenging it is to sound good and do this crazy stuff while moving and turning as you play. You can get away with a lot of this stuff in singing so long as the movements allow the torso and windpipe to stay aligned, but then there's the issue of the vocal projection meandering, lol. Michael Jackson was a jazz dancer and developed very unique dance movements so he could dance while keeping his torso stable so that he can still sing properly.
You can do all kinds of things with your hands and shoulders and legs, contrary to what many people think of when they visualize singing (I saw someone comment that a concert performance was fake because the guy was walking while singing, LOL).
Yeah in field shows we’ll twist around and do fun visuals but with a key caveat: The instrument has to move the exact same way our head does (clarinets/oboes have some wiggle room). As a flutist the flute thing was p bad and would be impossible to play much at all. The most intricate visuals are during rests bc you can do whatever
Anatine I play clarinet xD
Gock Block intensifies
I’m pretty sure most of the orchestra members were from a real orchestra and the obvious bad ones are some of the main characters in the story, thus not a real munition... they are actors. But I remember seeing interviews about how they hired musicians to teach them the correct bowing and fingerings, correct positions for piano also. The original manga artist is known for the accurate details of the some what niche themes she chooses, and she only agreed for this to be in live action if they could do it accurately.
A lot of people my generation loves classical music and/or started playing instruments because if this drama!
Also my school orchestra played Beethoven’s 7th symphony because we were so influenced by this... lol
Brett and Eddy: we're glad that they actually made an effort to make it look realistic
Video: SIKE
Compared to the other videos, this isnt a roast but a lightly toasted marshmallow
Edit: unholy violas this is the most likes ive ever gotten on a comment
violinning human it’s a constructively toasted marshmallow ❤️
Definitely
@@NinjaToe Nodame actually focuses on the music so much, it's in fact quite educational. Your Lie in April, however, seems to be just teenage angst and onion-cutting drama for the most part. *flame shield up*
@@NinjaToe I watched all 3 seasons of the Anime, I know already. Sky High is one of my favourite things ever, it introduced me to Rach PC2 3rd movement.
To be fair, they are named the "Special Orchestra".
One of a kind they are
*speshul*
Yep... special indeed
S OKE
Anki Hahahahahah I’m dead I understand
My question was in what world is their only one percussionist. I can only imagine in a normal setting how many parts he would have to cover. The pain. The pain
One weird thing I noticed as a percussionist: disregarding the timpani dude’s playing (is bad), he should only have 2 timpani. It’s true that we usually have 4 to 5 timpani onstage at most concerts, but this is a Beethoven only concert, and during Beethoven‘s day, there were only the two middle timpani, the 26” and the 29”. Since they only needed the middle two, why bother bringing the other two with? Timpani are heavy and cumbersome, and you never bring more than you need. Why waste energy on them just to bring them back without playing them once? Big goof
as a brassist i am notating a very suspisious lack of brass /hj
WhY aRE tHe viOlAs stAndIng buT nOt tHe ViOliNs-Eddy
Cause we are humble-Brett
But eddy said cause we’re humble
@@dhu2056 There's no actual rule for that, except that the strings always go outside. In fact, 2nd violins normally sit next to the 1st (inside), and outside go either the cellos or the violas. So this is pretty standard. Then, again, if the conductor says the trombones should sit at the front and the cellos next to the timpani, then that's the way they do it (not that I've seen it happen). But yes, violas outside is pretty standard in some orchestras.
As@@federicoandre5717said, there's no fixed rule (except that first violins go on the conductor's left).
Second violins on the outside (at the conductor's right) was very common up until around the middle of the 20th century, and it is today more common in Europe than in the USA. (The cellos then usually go next to the first violins and the violas next to the seconds.) A lot of standard orchestral repertoire from the 18th, 19th and (early)
20th centuries has passages that exploit the "antiphonal" arrangement of the two violin sections for special effects; these are lost in when the second violins sections are next to the first.
“Any unnecessary movement makes you work against yourself” Marching band: I can’t hear you if you play loud enough
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT
If I play loud enough*
Id call that just a little bit of unnecessary movement! lol
Ikr 😂
I was like "have you heard of drum corps"
Eddy and brett : "Im glad that they actually put effort to make this realistic"
*Starts spinning cello*
Eddy and Brett : *nvm*
Orchestra kids really like bey blade I guess
@@Liz-is-extremely-tired Let it rip
"I'm glad they at least put some effort to make it realistic"
*the whole orchestra proceeds to raise and play their instruments straight in the air*
*How to know if a Classical Music show is authentic:*
1. Make TwoSet review them
Duchi not just a review, a POSITIVE review....
Yeah.. There are types of Twoset review nowadays? 😅😂
A review on Amadeus :0
This classical music theme TV drama was super famous and really popular in Japan back in 2006.
Brett and Eddy: ‘It’s nice how they put effort into making it realistic.’
(2 seconds later the musicians start doing a weird interpretive dance)
For a little bit of context, that orchestra was done during the school/university days. It was not a normal orchestra and all the members are consist of bad/showing students that a well-known teacher pickup just to mess around. Due to jealousy, that teacher fell out and that student conductor takes over. You could say it was their first time performing in front as an orchestra and as a student do weird stuff just to gain attention. The actors in that orchestra are the conductor(the main protagonist), concertmaster, timpanist, flute, oboe, and bass( I forgot the name of instrument )...
bassoon?
@@jazzbassoonguy411 Love the pfp
14:30 If you’re a show marching band like my high school marching band was then trumpets moving like that is totally normal and totally possible. I was a Clarinet and we would swing our instruments around while play them. At certain points in shows in between our marching movements we would stop and boogie.
17:26 you’d be suprised what you can do with a flute. We had them in my marching band.
I get making a song animated but marching band is not orchestra, you swing your horn and move your feet in a way that looks professional in marching band, you sit still and look professional in orchestra
@@Unfoundrumors yeah, I didn’t say anything regarding that. I was just explaining that it was possible. We never swung our instruments around in concert band.
No joking, the old man with the beautiful wig says "Bravo!" better than me.
And I'm Italian.
I was looking for a comment on the wig... I'm glad the coment was this beautiful. 🤩
@@escaramujo aw... You made me blush ^^''
The man in the wig was too cool not to be mentioned.
good comment
The actor is actually one of the best actors in Japan and he is willing to take up this weird character...
@@yeungfeifeifei the humility of some great people...
Thanx for all the information :)
Twoset: thanks for actually put some effort on this scene...
*Suddenly cellos began flipping 🤣🤣🤣
I know, right?! LMAO 🤣
Cellos can do that, but as they explained in the video, not in that short of a rest.
I know lmao 😂😂😂😂 I wish, as a cellist I could do that during concerts 😂
@@howdidyoufindme7653 I don't know bro I don't even know I got so many likes before you told me😂
Maybe but basses can’t as basses (even in this video I think) have to sit on a ledge, and also they would hit the stand because we have to sit closer to our music to all fit
When Brett and Eddy said that it looked like the orchestra was conducting itself, my orchestra conducor actually cued us in and then left he stage until the end of the piece to let us conduct ourselves and so that the people in the middle of the wind orchestra could be seen by the parents. Bear in mind it was a training wind orchestra so the piece wasnt neccessarily the hardest thing out there, but it was still kinda hard. So it is possible for an orchestra to conduct itself.
My band teacher did that once in class for a song and said we performed better than with him conducting-
As a professional musician we performed under the baton of a very famous conductor (whom I shall not name) who was often so drunk that no one could follow him. When this happened all musicians followed the Concertmaster instead. Unbelievably no music critic ever commented on this and we never heard anyone in the audience talk about it either. Thank God for the Concertmaster!
I wish they watch the whole drama to see why the concert master isn’t as good lol
TwoSet: "Thank you for making this realistic."
Orchestra:* Does unrealistic music dance mob*
TwoSet: 😐😂
Oh lord it would make for sense if you watched the full show!!!! The blonde dude insisted that in the rehearsal.
Some people practice 40 hours a day.
Some people spend a month tuning their violin.
You cannot serve two masters.
oh my gosh that "spend a month tuning a violin" hahahahaha i just watched that video yesterday
I understood that reference
I'm gonna ask Olaf
That luthier fake ass movie is the worst ever I’ve seen
@@gracewood6768 Hahaha!!! Me too!!! Literally just yesterday
Flautist here: The one girl is not playing a professional flute. Pro flutes have a B foot joint (so they can play one note deeper, the B...)...these flutes are louder (and longer/heavier)...you need that to be heard in an orchestra...
Not really. Many flutists like Rampal use C foot one.
Actually, I think the deeper B is not a must note.....
I don’t even believe the girl is a flautist. In the one scene that zooms on her the notes are changing but her fingers remain down and don’t move at all. As well as that, the flute doesn’t appear to be making much contact with the groove of her chin, and her right hand is bent down and is not up. She also doesn’t tilt the flute down, she holds it up straight which isn’t typical of a professional player.
@@wayneshih8064 Yeah, you‘re actually right, i looked it up…i wasn‘t aware that pros use the flute with a c foot too, if they want :)…BUT: There sure are a couple of pieces that you cannot play in the original form without the low B note, eg Jolivet‘s flute concerto…but pro flautists generally got more than one flute, they sure got all the joints they need :)
12:10
Nobody:
Absolutely Nobody:
Conductor: Ling Ling challenge!!
When they lifted their instruments, all I could think of was the flute players and their condensation dripping outta the mouthpiece
God I love your username
splash! lol
Actually that wouldn't happen. They're looking up, but not directly upwards. The condensation won't come out, provided that you're playing the instrument correctly.
The trumpets and horns, on the other hand...idk how they'd feel.
Actually, 'condensation' doesn't usually drip out of the mouth piece unless we're taking out the mouth piece (u know, to clean it)
@@kamicece3961 and by the foot aswell if you play for a long time
“Any unnecessary movement makes you work against yourself" Marching band: sorry I can't hear you I am too busy moving
Exactly!
Lmaoooo
*Random choreography that the colorguard decided to make the band do last minute intensifies*
Also in Brazilian Carnaval. "Baterias" (the set of percussionists, drums and all sort of instruments) also do that marching and playing for at least 70 minutes.
Oof I forgot about that
17:17 I've played the flute for 27 years. I can safely say it is possible to do that move, but highly unnecessary.
Honestly, as a pianist myself, this is my favourite Japanese drama about music and orchestra. I really eddy and brett would dive deeper into the story to know why the conductor was not as good and the performance has come in an exaggerating way. Nodame Cantabile became popular amongst musicians for a reason
same
12:30 "First thing before we even talk about the violins,"
auto-generated subtitles: *First thing before we even talk about the violence*
I mean its not wrong though...
this is like one of those yu-gi-oh "spot the main character" challenges.
* snort * heh. ik,r!!!
Are you talking about the blond guy? He's not the main character. The conductor, and the girl who came in late are.
@@ShiroKage009 Nonetheless, the concertmaster was a relevant character in the story.
@@joseito1609 but not the main. The typical "hair color tells who the main character is" doesn't work for the main couple here. The character with the hair has a story reason for it. It's one of the reasons this show is relatable.
ShiroiKage009 the joke still stand true regardless
There's a Dutch show called 'Maestro' which tries to learn celebrities to conduct an orchestra and sees who does it best.
Great show to review with a lot of cringe but also some great learning curve and eventually conducting by non-musicians!
Also a top notch orchestra that greatly follows the bad conducting and also dare to screw up in line with the bad conducting
When the conductor lifts his arms at the start, the cellos spin, and you’re not supposed to spin the cello.
two set: We really appreciate how the spent time trying to make it look more realistic!
next scene: *violins raise towards the heavens and the cello players go sicko mode and turn into beyblades*
Lmao, how does this have no reply’s it’s bootiful
Yes, this comment made me laugh harder than any other comment here. Especially the beyblade sicko mode cellos.
Shirosune, The basses did it too... As a bass player, I would’ve hit my bow or bass on my stand and knocked it over 💀
Nathan L
Exactly. I used to love beyblade, and this got me cracking lmao
Same and can everybody understand that saying “that’s a big violin” or “I didn’t know you played violin” to a bassist isn’t funny please
As a flute player, the sacrilegious posture at the end kinda bothers me. You might be able to pull it off, but you would need to move your head very precisely to keep the flute in tune. If it rolls in or out the flute will go out of tune. And a gold flute produces a more mellow and rich tone if anyone is wondering.
As another flute player i can confirm that, plus your air flow would probably be messed up enough for your pitch to sound like it is on a rollercoaster.
But it is possible, in marching band I had to move my flute around a lot in sacrilegious positions like that (Also a flutist)
yeah i agree i could never play with that kind of posture. my sound would be shité
@@unnormal6701 yeah! Im a flutist too and Ive seen weird movements going on in marching band. Its kinda awkward lol
and imagine moving around that much. ew.
To me, the most exciting sound is the collective sound of an orchestra tuning right before the start of a concert. It's the sound of a promise to spend an enjoyable couple of hours, during which the worries and burdens of the world disappear. Ah, the memories!!!!
a little backstory, when they were rehearsing for the piece, Chiaki, the conductor, was so focused on accuracy and became a monster correcting every single wrong note and lost sight of actually creating and enjoying the music. after that was when they decided to play that extremely showy moves.
TwoSet: Unnecessary movement
Me: *flashback to marching band*
Kelvin Nguyen Leo P - Am I a joke to you?
I was thinking about marching band as they said that
I felt that so deeply
14:29 -14:57
Marching band players: *_Are we a joke to you?_*
Klutzy Mutt and the piece Paconchita
I was looking for this comment lol! Ever heard of horn flashes?
Or brass band (english style). We do move a lot some times
This moment made me remember about Kyoto Tachibana High School Marching Band
Yessss thanks youuuu!!!
ok, so i play a wind instrument (specifically the clarinet), and when brett and eddy brought up the trumpets almost swaying their horns side to side reminded me of when i did a parade for my high school and all of the brass players made us march down the driveway of the school while playing and swinging our horns side to side. it was a nightmare, but we had so much fun doing it.
Yep, that's the anime Nodame that made me get interested in orchestra, since they showed how orchestra works. I recommend to watch the anime first and live action.
I recommend starting with the manga, it's the most complete :)
Who want to see a new series named “Science with Twoset”?
I want :)
陳芊卉 I'd probably watch anything that has "with Twoset" in it😂😂
陳芊卉 𝕪𝕖𝕤
I don't want, I need
Yes!! Especially about sound and how it works with different instruments and stuff. I loved that bit about it all with Olaf the luthier. Ah crap i exposed my inner nerd again 🤓
陳芊卉 omg yes pls!!!
"I've never seen a conductor go WAH like that"
laughs in jazz band
Jazz is on a whole different dimension fr
Waluigi is jazz conductor confirmed?
@@catattack9575 You win the internet for now
@@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache 😂
Its so true tho!!!
That is actually great anime/manga live action. I'd would never expect this, out of all things, to be this realistic.
“a little bit sick”
oh no
Covid time boiis...
”at least they are trying hard to make it look realistic”
*spins cellos and lifts up violins back in chairs*
Me: “I mean.....SuRe-“
There's a reason for the shenanigans, not a practical one, but there's a reason behind .
Well it’s possible to spin Cello while playing
Basses did it to and as a bassist I can confirm that oxygen is real
Just a little basic info on Nodame Cantabile (Live Action):
The girl listening extremely intently was Nodame, the protagonist and a gifted but lazy pianist. The conductor was Chiaki, the male lead and also an accomplished pianist. He was one of those extremely serious/intense people, and just started learning to conduct. But the first assignment he got was to work with the university's worst orchestra, the S Orchestra (a lot of the members couldn't even play in tune when they first started). All of these people were university students, not professionals (yet).
The concertmaster was one of those typical rebels who didn't want to be restrained by the usual conventions of classical musicians (hence the attire). The group of misfits made a pact with Chiaki to add something 'extra', which is why there was all that spinning and 'interesting' poses at this first performance (also the first time he had fun conducting). The man wearing that long wig and shouting "Bravo!" in the audience was a world-class conductor (with a weird personality and many issues). Chiaki became his apprentice, and this performance was sort of a test to see if he would qualify.
So while the critique on the technical aspects (violin-playing, conducting) were on point, the other things pointed out were completely reasonable within the context of the series. It was one of those occasions where manga/anime-style exaggerations were incorporated, but remained perfectly plausible. You can't imagine everyone acting like this. But you can easily see _these_ people behaving that way.
@Lailene Rodriguez-Ordas No prob. Nodame was one of my favourite live-action depictions of music. Thanks for pointing out the corresponding anime episode.
I’m mostly just shocked that I figured all of this out based on anime tropes- like seriously guessing 80% of the plot. 😂
I think the overall context of live-actions is very important. But it’s hard to get as big of a laugh, or a reasonable length of a video when you share all of that context. I can understand the balancing act of a TH-camr giving a reaction.
@@OneWhoDreamsAwake Yeah, 2Set did a good job. There was nothing wrong with this video. As professional musicians, they balanced objective criticism with recognition of the effort put in by the actors. I just wanted to leave the context here for those who might be interested, or who saw the anime and never watched the original (it came out before the anime, and is, in my opinion, much better in terms of character development).
People tend to assume that adopting anime-style things into live-action would be cringey, but this one was honestly well done. Not only was the music great, but it also showcased the real struggles musicians go through, all in a humorous way. It may not be as new and shiny as productions filmed in recent years, but it's a classic. Of all the music-themed films, TV series, and anime I've seen, this was hands down my favourite.
Isnt it kind of wired that the blonde guy didnt like being "restrained"? Like... why did he pick up violin and classical music let alone playing in an orchestra. He couldve chosen guitar and play in a rock band or smth.
It is tacky and annoying to see these little "rebelious" unique attitudes and even tricks (the twists and turns of the instruments) being incorporated into something that is supposed to be already pretty meaningful and beautiful on its own with no need for these kind of acts.
I havent read or watched anything about nodame cantabile si there might me more to it.
@@randomme3095 What's wrong with wanting to become a classical musician but not liking stuffy clothes? Orchestral musician attire isn't just formal, it's stifling. Wearing tails, cummerbunds/waistcoats, and bowties while trying to play difficult pieces is _not_ conducive to playing well. Also, notice that this wasn't exactly a formal occasion either. They were performing in front of the school, no one else.
And why can't rebels become classical musicians (not that there's anything wrong with rock)? Many of the best classical composers in history were rebels who went against the convention of the time, experimented with new sounds/technique, and created revolutionary pieces. Most of them weren't even remotely decorous, and did all sorts of outrageous things with their pieces, during performances, and in their daily lives.
The concertmaster here was a classically-trained violinist who practised for years, aiming to become a classical violinist. He had to fine-tune his playing before this, but the potential was always there. The S Orchestra was filled with university students, some aiming to become professionals, some just wanting to learn music. They didn't distort the music, just designed a funny gesture that was unique to them. What's wrong with adding a bit of unnecessary but individualistic quirk? And yes, I'm a classical musician. I wholeheartedly approve of what they did in the context of the series.
Finally, I completely agree with the last sentence of your comment.
I've been binging your videos. I have always loved classical music but barely know anything about it. Your breakdown of the moments before the performance starts was great, it's actually one of my most favorite parts in any performance... the tuning, the silence, and then the bow-- it lets all of US "tune in" too! Anyway, your editing is literally top notch, the sequence around 11:15 had me in stitches.
17:43 are two guys who don't have a bow in their hands hahahahahah😆
I love this content with Eddy and Brett, also it's very informative!
Violinists talking about how humble they are? They're the most humble. In fact, they'll let you know that there is no one more humble in the whole orchestra. 😄
That is on point.
“I, too, am extraordinarily humble”
After seeing the "violin fight", nothing bothers me any more. Actually start to appreciate their efforts of trying to be accurate!
Yeah, that last Chinese movie was so horrible! I know nothing about classical music but those scenes hurt my eyes, can't believe the director sees that and "yeah it's good"
Windi Noor But they put in a month for tuning a violin :D
I like how right after they said "I like how they're putting effort into making it look realistic." it goes off the walls.
This drama is very dear to my heart, and though it has many flaws I really enjoyed the concept and the way it reintroduced classical (especially) piano music to me... It was like 10 years ago that I watched it, but I just can't forget it 💕
Same to me. I love it so much that each year i watch once 😁
"More unnecessary movement means you're more likely to mess up."
HAHAHAHAHA why did I join marching band
I joined to get out of Phys Ed class.
I mean, I dropped out because it was too stressful....
Also, marching was forever ruined in sixth grade when I was forced to march with a french horn rather than a mellophone.
No one can really tell if you mess up playing in marching band. As long as you can march in step, you're ok.
eksentrysyti not if you’re a snare or Tom you can tell if they mess up because I’ve been in a few *incidents* where I may or may not have been playing off beat
As a drum major, I'm just here to remind y'all that if I mess up and the rest of the show is an utter cacophony of nonsense, it's y'all's fault! At least that's what the general audience thinks lol
Nobody:
Eddy with perfect pitch: "sounds more like a highschool orchestra... WITH THAT A"
You don't need perfect pitch to tell they aren't in tune with one another
all orchestras tune with A...
that’s the note all orchestras always tune
@@user-dk7ic1ci2z he is referring to the bad tuning, actually
@@DFdezdeMarticorenaGallego uhhh yeah?
2Set: "He's wearing gloves. I don't know what's up with that"
Me: Exactly! That guy is supposed to be weird. Everyone in this band is supposed to be either super weird or just simply suck. That's the basis for the whole series!
2Set: "My guess is this guy's not a conductor"
Me: Exactly! He's a piano student! Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Love you guys 2Set. And nice review. Just couldn't stop arguing in my head XD
The anime version of this show (the best version imo) has way better instrument playing. They motion captured real musicians playing their instruments so they're all actually playing the right notes.
do you ever wonder what this actually sounded like while they filmed it? everyone is making noise lol
Well, sine there are actual musicians it would sound pretty good. I guess the concertmaster would be the only bad sounding one.
I know that they're professionals, but it still amazes me when Brett & Eddy play
yes
@Garrett They, like, make global tours every week soooo
Kiiinda professional?
@@luminatron They are very professional, playing for 20 or 21 years and practicing 40 hours a day.
@Garrett They are very professional, playing for 20 or 21 years and practicing 40 hours a day.
@Garrett yes, they each played in several different orchestras and they both were also the concertmaster in those orchestras for several years. it's all on their website. very impressive.
Them: it’s okay we’re just a bit sick :>
Me: CORONA!?!
Me: *checks date*
Me: oh ok
Cringe
@@ParrotQueenPlays dont
@@Chadjjjhgkkl34 don't what?
@@billtan8383 Tf?
@@ParrotQueenPlays joe mama boba tea
Nodame Cantabile anime is the reason I started playing violin. I was in a med school back then and as an adult beginner , I just wanna reset my life or reborn again so I can play since childhood. But this very anime motivates me to play and hold a violin even though I have to start in my early twenties. And these days , I got my motivation back from 2set too. Thank you guys ^^
you guys should watch the nodame cantabile movie, same actors but the acting is much better. the actor actually took conducting lessons to act.
yes, especially the 1812 overture eps
Especially the conductor. He conducted much better in movie
And also Lang Lang did the performances as Nodame's piano stunt double
@@mochacino4275 OMG!! Reli? Any source about that? Wow....
Lang had tweeted about it: twitter.com/lang_lang/status/9641570826
And there's some Japanese interview (Sorry I can't find English version) www.nodame-orche.com/langlang/
Twoset: [when you play violin horizontally] you can't make a good sound
also Twoset: LinG LiNG wOrKoUT
"We're sick" different connotation and reaction in a listeners mind now and back when this vid was made when that is said. Amazing how quickly the world can change, isn't it?
The way you deliberate on any random musical scene in a more classical + academic way is really great. Benefit lots from it, so thanks
* plays trumpet while dancing *
two set: People just don't do it
mexican trumpeters: O.o
Venezuelan orquestras dancing while playing Mambo: O.O.o.O
*laughs in mariachi
Jazz trumpeters
Just look for italian Bersaglieri band running while they play trumpets etc.
@@enfermoytristemundo We Play it in Summer and our conductor said we should do too XD
5 seconds into Nodame Cantabile:
Twoset, *pauses* :
*_NONONONONO_*
Can we appreciate how the actors here are actually trying to sync with the music unlike SOME SHOWS *cough cough*
I love all your videos especially the roasting ones, I learn so much about classic music from them.
Thank you so much, doing a great job, Brett and Eddy!
Video: Begins
Two seconds later: plays just 1 a
Twoset: *immediately pauses the video*
Me: aha, this is becoming a nice vid 🔥🔥
Listen, I'm no professional when it comes to playing clarinet, but this
17:13 - 17:14
*this* is how you get neck injuries
(not to mention the whole clarinet section's going to sound like a flock of ducks being strangled)
:0
ThE fLuTeS aReN't MoViNg ThEiR fInGeRs
The clarinets were either playing a G or a D the whole time
true. you need to keep your chin parallel to the floor
Eh its still possible to maintain good tone quality like this, but you have to apply neck scoliosis
The more I watch TwoSet, the more I appreciate classical music. Thank you✌🏽❤
If I were one of the musicians taking part in the filming, I'd be one of those actors who gets in trouble for going up to the director and telling them "Um, excuse me...but that's not really realistic.."
Manga: Ling Ling
Anime: Two Set
Live Action: sAcRiLeGiOuS bOi
Netflix adapt: some dude named Vov
14:30
Eddy: I tHiNk It Is PoSsIbLe To PlAy LiKe ThAt
Me (trumpet): COLLAPSES IN PAINFUL LAUGHTER
(Edit: I know it’s possible, just with practice)
Ikr like no. It would sound so bad
It is in marching band most of the instruments do that. It just takes practicw
*Laughs in marching band*
@@austinkar5118 it's kinda hard to do when playing complicated classical music though
Nicola Dickinson true but it is possible
This is one of my favourite shows and this was so informative! Thank you!
Hahahahaha Bravo!!!!! 😂 I'm so glad to have you guys around and I love your content. I'm a violist