Why Being a Conductor is The Hardest Job Ever

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  • @vilatte.
    @vilatte. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16993

    Conductors are the loneliest members of an orchestra.
    The musicians won’t even glance at them.

    • @Nezumi99
      @Nezumi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      You watch guys to tell u to practice

    • @omegaRST
      @omegaRST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +419

      And they get so offended when you dont look at them too

    • @wuyipiano
      @wuyipiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      There are still some conductors like Benjamin Zander well connected with musicians and people around. Of course they might have different situations.

    • @joannatsang9931
      @joannatsang9931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      either the chorus conductor🙃

    • @Equa11ysurl
      @Equa11ysurl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Especially the violas. (As a violist I can confirm)

  • @HM-sn8qq
    @HM-sn8qq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5688

    Twoset: “I didn’t hear where they messed up.”
    Me (non-musician): Finally, I can relate.”

    • @sharonranjit4227
      @sharonranjit4227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      lol same 😂

    • @hananhashem4487
      @hananhashem4487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same

    • @l0n3duo67
      @l0n3duo67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      I've been playing 2 instruments for over a decade and still bullshit my way through all of these videos. "Mhmm.... Yes I agree, that was awful playing" *smokes pipe while my ass sweats furiously*

    • @bachlamtung5131
      @bachlamtung5131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      afterwards: oh ITS SO OFF
      me: ; - ;

    • @masierity2917
      @masierity2917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      L0n3 Duo me

  • @antoyal
    @antoyal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10163

    "Oh, and what instrument do you play?"
    "The orchestra."

    • @aasserelzoghby6781
      @aasserelzoghby6781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      A M A Z I N G

    • @aquamarineancientsoul7893
      @aquamarineancientsoul7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      *E P I C*

    • @none_i5316
      @none_i5316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      I N T E R E S T I N G

    • @aasserelzoghby6781
      @aasserelzoghby6781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@aquamarineancientsoul7893 davie504 fans aren't allowed here 🤣
      Just kidding I am a fan of both

    • @powerofone1645
      @powerofone1645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The triangle........................... lol

  • @ErikCPianoman
    @ErikCPianoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8376

    As a pianist who has little experience playing in orchestra, and spends most of my time solo practicing, these clips terrify me.

    • @aids571
      @aids571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Oh hey, didn't expect to see you here
      Love your Zelda pieces

    • @hartsgd9172
      @hartsgd9172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I agree, your ocarina of time medley is great

    • @brucehunter9128
      @brucehunter9128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You have no idea

    • @anime4life869
      @anime4life869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yoy get used to the strictness of conductor

    • @balladin9200
      @balladin9200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Erik C 'Piano Man'
      I have a question my good friend, I want to make it big like that famous player for playing a super hard piece perfectly. I don’t know if playing in an orchestra as a pianist is it for me. Is there a solo piano play business, I am going to reach the top and make my own peak of the summit.

  • @minty-es8me
    @minty-es8me 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2409

    Yesterday: "violins are delicate instruments"
    Today: "conductors are delicate people"

    • @ankavoskuilen1725
      @ankavoskuilen1725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Music is a delicate thing.
      I ❤ music

    • @meemeetan3561
      @meemeetan3561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Tomorrow? Violinists are delicate players. 🥳

    • @MrSkinnyWhale
      @MrSkinnyWhale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You could actually put a 27kg kid on a conductor and they wouldn't break.

    • @martinajurickova5750
      @martinajurickova5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Considering violing can withstand 27kg, then conductors are real badasses

    • @dacoconutnut9503
      @dacoconutnut9503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gustavo Dudamel is a violinist, coincidence? I THINK NOT

  • @mariequelquechose387
    @mariequelquechose387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4382

    - Conductors are delicate pe-
    - *YOU HAVE NO EARS, NO EYES*

    • @nurfithrah2849
      @nurfithrah2849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Oof i remember this..

    • @user-kp9of7re9q
      @user-kp9of7re9q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Toscanini was an Old school

    • @leonardocialdella9843
      @leonardocialdella9843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      and then he say “PORCO DIO!”

    • @koe3723
      @koe3723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      xD I remember like it was yesterday :’)

    • @danielkim9959
      @danielkim9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      a A _A _*_A A_** Y Y Y Y C O N T R A B A SSIIII*

  • @ISKMUSIC1
    @ISKMUSIC1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3871

    The Da-gu-da-dum part on the triangle...this just shows how much of a perfectionist Bernstein was. Here is where they fail. Attempt 1: the rhythm is not clear enough. It sounds too slurred. Attempt: 2 the rhythm is clear, but the sound is too aggressive. That's why he says "that's a little better". Attempt #3: rushing a tiny bit and sounds flat. Their sound production is just not right. Attempt #4 he does the same thing, just in a slightly different spot on the triangle. Hence - "doorbell". A very simple instrument, but not simple to play at all! Not a specialist, but it probably has to do with the angle at which you hold the stick, how much you let it vibrate in your hand when hitting the triangle, how many milliseconds you linger on each hit, how strong you make each stroke (there probably should be a little bit of a crescendo). As I said, not a specialist...but I have seen some great percussionists play the triangle and the thing starts to sing and dance in certain hands!

    • @illa3304
      @illa3304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      Thank you for the explanation

    • @VAsd123
      @VAsd123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Finally thanks

    • @r.t.5767
      @r.t.5767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I thought the same about this, the sound is slurred, especially the last attempt

    • @DuzBee
      @DuzBee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Cool story - needs more dragons.

    • @Saskatchetooner
      @Saskatchetooner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nicely explained, thank you

  • @charleslaine
    @charleslaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2097

    5:22 that conductor was the freakin boss for resetting that situation so quickly and under such total control. I think a lot of people would have just tried to continue on and hope for the players to get in sync. But he was like nah screw this. Tap tap tap. And one....

    • @ruthsalgado6775
      @ruthsalgado6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      That one looks like Igor Stravinsky ngl.

    • @christiandanielflores5775
      @christiandanielflores5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      what piece is this tho thank u

    • @kurumi394
      @kurumi394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@christiandanielflores5775 Messe in B Minor by Bach

    • @christiandanielflores5775
      @christiandanielflores5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kurumi394 thanks :)

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      That goes to how professional he was. Once there's a mistake, they have to improvise how to make the orchestra stop.

  • @minty-es8me
    @minty-es8me 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7448

    Brett: "conductors are delicate people"
    Me, my mind full of traumatic flashbacks from my band director yelling at & roasting everyone:
    …are you sure?

    • @Mondkreischer
      @Mondkreischer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      Cursing, throwing literal keys.. but also teaching skat at practice weekends xD

    • @MrsPikaPikachu
      @MrsPikaPikachu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Can’t relate 🙂 My conductor is niceee

    • @isaacteo5355
      @isaacteo5355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      COOONTRABAASSSSSOO

    • @mylaedhros7965
      @mylaedhros7965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      My conductor for my orchestra is happy he's evil, throwing his batons and candy at my classmates. Jokingly of course, but it's still horrifying...

    • @reeeboi2824
      @reeeboi2824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      a. y your band must have broken your conductor

  • @polina5918
    @polina5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4125

    brett: conductors are delicate people
    toscanini roasting his orcestra: eeeeeeeaaaa contrabassi!!!1!! your ears are in your feet!!!! *sounds of italian anger*

    • @hugod327
      @hugod327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +372

      You have no eyes! nO eArS! *nO* *sOuL!!!*

    • @polina5918
      @polina5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      @@hugod327 this is a comment with sound

    • @CordialGun
      @CordialGun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      you've heard of [cries in spanish]
      get ready for [ITALIAN RAGE]

    • @starbug1409
      @starbug1409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I can hear this comment

    • @sofiagatti8789
      @sofiagatti8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      i’m italian and it’s *contraBBassi lol

  • @iamunnameable
    @iamunnameable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    Can we all petition Apple to make Maestro Bernstein’s “DAGADADUM” an official alert/text tone for iPhone?

    • @linguisticsnerd433
      @linguisticsnerd433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I support

    • @neil7137
      @neil7137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I prefer the sound Bernstein made when imitating the doorbell sound.

    • @dang5874
      @dang5874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      [stares in android user]

    • @tmdaze9281
      @tmdaze9281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I’d prefer the VIOLA! ringtone

  • @usbanfield8267
    @usbanfield8267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +912

    Once in my high school band somehow we collectively skipped a measure. We had been playing it well for a month or so but practically everyone, including the conductor just randomly skipped this one measure and kept playing as if nothing happened. There were one or two people who were confused but most of us just did it instinctually - it only happened one and it remains a great mystery :)

    • @Lordvictorinox
      @Lordvictorinox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Y'all hive minded

    • @huyenly7603
      @huyenly7603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      It would have been funny if the director stopped the band and got mad at the only 2 that got it right. 😂😂

    • @pianisticlove6915
      @pianisticlove6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's King Crimson

    • @ujjwalmishra8962
      @ujjwalmishra8962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did u guys talk about it

    • @itsjustnia336
      @itsjustnia336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@huyenly7603 LMAO

  • @angeladominique5846
    @angeladominique5846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2216

    Eddy as a conductor: Moving passionately with the music and has a lot of facial expressions.
    Brett as a conductor: Dead pan face with minimal gestures.

    • @Samhalta
      @Samhalta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      I mean apparently Bernstein could conduct with his eyebrows, so why not?

    • @kateschmid2889
      @kateschmid2889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I've had both types of conductors!

    • @XQQ-qm8ow
      @XQQ-qm8ow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      So Eddy is Bernstein and Brett is Boulez?

    • @user-jb5sk7pc2m
      @user-jb5sk7pc2m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brett dabs while conducting

    • @solared
      @solared 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Brett can conduct like Bernstein. What do you think those eyebrows are for.

  • @whyimbored716
    @whyimbored716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    Ling Ling doesn’t need a conductor
    The conductor needs Ling Ling

    • @sofs._.papersquishies2505
      @sofs._.papersquishies2505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Concertmaster? I would say WHOLE MUSICAL WORLD master

    • @Znijik
      @Znijik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Kristine Pradilla Conductor: (cues the end of a fermata)
      Ling Ling: NO! You're OFF BEAT!

    • @dharmadeyauddin6149
      @dharmadeyauddin6149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excuse me im newbie here. Can you explain me who is lingling?

    • @memalies3926
      @memalies3926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The conducter needs some to conduct. Imagine a conducter just standing on the stage just waving with a pin.

    • @SarahJones-wy5us
      @SarahJones-wy5us 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      REALLY stupid remark.

  • @ceinthalia4669
    @ceinthalia4669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Viola in orchestra = Alto in choir.
    It's always the Alto 😔

    • @user-gm2gj1xi4v
      @user-gm2gj1xi4v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeahh
      Saying from a bass' perspective tho

    • @Pakkens_Backyard
      @Pakkens_Backyard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      or 1st Bass lol
      Tenors = they can sing
      2nd Bass = they can actually hit the low notes
      1st Bass = the rest

    • @omamajohnpaul4215
      @omamajohnpaul4215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always saw the Altos as the French horn tho.😊

    • @CoolEtherine
      @CoolEtherine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The funny thing is when it's soprano😂

    • @catw4729
      @catw4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, definitely the tenors (says a soprano, so no ax to grind)

  • @juliabkw
    @juliabkw ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I will never forget how stupefied I was once in youth symphony orchestra when our new conductor stopped and said "you on the fourth stand in the second violin on the left, you played a wrong note in bar xyz that f sharp was out of tune" (or something similar).
    He didn't mean me, but I'm sure my mouth was hanging open because I'd always been sure I could hide behind the others when I happened to play a wrong note. No more! And how the hell did he hear who exactly made the mistake among the 20+ violins playing?! 😳

    • @allandelacruz2589
      @allandelacruz2589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they're triplets. The maestro could have sung continuous triplets, made them play it just "to get the hang of it," then try again just one triplet and stop on the next next note.

  • @renthehag
    @renthehag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6969

    I was in a state honors choir once and our choir as a whole was NOT following the conductor. Cue the best teaching allegory I have ever heard from any conductor ever.
    “Imagine you’re on a desert island. You haven’t eaten for days. You’re starving. All of a sudden, out in the distance, you see a Hershey’s bar. It’s shining in the light. You run towards it, hoping and praying it’s real. You grab it, and you can’t believe your luck. You bite into it, and the chocolate is real. It melts on your tongue. The chocolate is so sweet. It’s the best thing you’ve ever eaten in your life.
    Folks, I am that chocolate bar! Look at me like I am that chocolate bar.”
    He was black.
    Our choir had no issues after that 😂

    • @kpop_potato2056
      @kpop_potato2056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      TuttiTunes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m black lol

    • @kwanzatrotman6337
      @kwanzatrotman6337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +257

      ROFL XD Thank you for this and, I guess, thanks to your choir for not following the conductor at the time so that such a memorable allegory was made. This gave me a good laugh after a long day :D

    • @jyrgenruut
      @jyrgenruut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      Hmm... if you are on a "desert" island, I really doubt you have to run for some chocolate!
      Sorry, I will show myself out...

    • @stralbem
      @stralbem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Damn that is one smart chocolate man

    • @yunglynda1326
      @yunglynda1326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      LMAO this is wonderful I wish my allstate choir directors said this 😂

  • @PuddintameXYZ
    @PuddintameXYZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4501

    2:36 He says viola with such passion that it kinda sounds like it's part of the performance, like it's a play and a character is calling out to someone named "Viola."

    • @PuddintameXYZ
      @PuddintameXYZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      Btw, anyone know what piece that is?
      EDIT: Found it less than 15 seconds later. Bruckner's 7th Symphonh, Mvt. 1

    • @cziffra-eg9st
      @cziffra-eg9st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@PuddintameXYZ that's celidibache

    • @knorgl
      @knorgl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@PuddintameXYZ Yeah Sergiu Celibidache was one of the best Bruckner conductors. He really knew how to get Bruckners "orchestral organ" breathing. If you are into it and dont fear counterpoint - his recording of Bruckners 5th symphony is the real deal. Simply music from heaven.

    • @musicalsoul4542
      @musicalsoul4542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Music fits too

    • @ladylouarbes6818
      @ladylouarbes6818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@musicalsoul4542 Yeah it kinda makes it more dramatic and intense

  • @ariya8325
    @ariya8325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I'm not even a musician but man, these conductors scares me.

  • @harryarmitage6056
    @harryarmitage6056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I have been watching many livestreams since Covid lockdowns started. The number of senior, professional conductors who count, sing, mutter and generally make noises during livestreams is absolutely astonishing.

  • @jake6112
    @jake6112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3903

    Maybe we've been mishearing Asian mothers all this time: "When you get older you become conDUCTOR lah!"

  • @etc4725
    @etc4725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1348

    When i was a kid i thought conductors were random old guys who really liked dancing so they got a nice little stick and did it with a bunch of fun people making fun noises in the background

    • @vaaaaaaliiii
      @vaaaaaaliiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lmao

    • @Noosh_noot
      @Noosh_noot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha lol

    • @rautvinz
      @rautvinz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That somehow sounds wrong

    • @vincent7553
      @vincent7553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      accurate

    • @lowheadvarney158
      @lowheadvarney158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      so you thought... and then there's this guy at 5:07

  • @reethegirl7822
    @reethegirl7822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    5:29 just SEND me omg my hands drenched in cold sweat, I felt that in my soul

  • @paco4808
    @paco4808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The one you skipped that yelled "1-2-3" was weird al yankovic.
    How dare you!!! Hahaha

  • @violamuzzi7303
    @violamuzzi7303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4204

    Conductor: calls the viola section
    All of the violinists: laugh at me because I'm the concertmaster and yet my name's Viola
    Me: *internal screaming*

    • @lukathurinn7906
      @lukathurinn7906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      That's sad

    • @JamesConley999
      @JamesConley999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      Fufhfjdjekekwwi I thought this was a joke then I looked at your name omgggg

    • @rutten739
      @rutten739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      V I O L A

    • @yagmurdeniz5216
      @yagmurdeniz5216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@JamesConley999 saaaammeee

    • @cheesecakelasagna
      @cheesecakelasagna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Reminds me of "Press X to Shaun" lmao.

  • @minty-es8me
    @minty-es8me 4 ปีที่แล้ว +874

    EDDY JUST CASUALLY ROASTING THE PERCUSSION LIKE
    "as a triangle player, you're probably not used to having such high expectations placed on your part."

    • @gigipizzuto4068
      @gigipizzuto4068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yes that was kinda mean lol

    • @heelrunner
      @heelrunner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      It's kinda like your parents saying, "we know you're not as good as your brother, but can you at least try?"

    • @gigipizzuto4068
      @gigipizzuto4068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@heelrunner that would hurt as hell

    • @user-jb5sk7pc2m
      @user-jb5sk7pc2m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@heelrunner where the lie tho

    • @judygambel2801
      @judygambel2801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gigipizzuto4068 sound like my mom of you got third higest grade but why not first?
      Mom it aint eazy you know that

  • @juliomoraes3129
    @juliomoraes3129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    2:37 . The musical equivalent of " where is the lamb sauce"

  • @Shooplawn
    @Shooplawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Before i started playing music, i always thought that conductors were never needed and that they just waved a stick around doing nothing. Now dat i hv started playing music, i realised that conductors are everything when it comes to playing in a group together with a big audience.

  • @vaaaaaaliiii
    @vaaaaaaliiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +601

    The conductor: "That sounds like a doorbell"
    The entire orchestra: Ooof

    • @user-wm3wm6vd2z
      @user-wm3wm6vd2z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Its BERNSTEIN!!!!!!!!!

    • @yuntsuchen
      @yuntsuchen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't understand how you play with musicality on the triangle. I thought they were sort of like sound effects that accentuate certain sections of the music.

    • @alanabrekkockar3883
      @alanabrekkockar3883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@yuntsuchen accentuating certain section of the music in bernsteins head is what they failing to do, so bernstein encourages the players to play with more musicality. makes sense?

    • @stevenhan8643
      @stevenhan8643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose what Bernstein expecting was piano on the first and third note and forte on the forth

    • @alanabrekkockar3883
      @alanabrekkockar3883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stevenhan8643 not really the players are playing 4 8th notes where the ryhtm is triplet and an 8th its subtle but its there and kinda annoying because how distinctive the bell sound is oh and they failing because its a fast tempo they have shit gear and all the pressure the tension on moment makes it very difficult for two guys to play it in unison so they are kind of even began defeated trying to laugh it off all through feeling awfully out of their body and senses.

  • @minty-es8me
    @minty-es8me 4 ปีที่แล้ว +986

    conductor: "it has to be da-ga-da-dum!"
    percussionist: *plays da-ga-da-dum*
    conductor: "no, it's not da-ga-da-dum, it has to be da-ga-da-dum!"
    percussionist: *visible confusion*

    • @Nezumi99
      @Nezumi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol

    • @arielcemusic
      @arielcemusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love you hahaha

    • @kitioppa
      @kitioppa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I actually understood him there. It's the last note/rhythm that was off. I don't know how they could've fixed it but it was somehow wrong

    • @MComptoncomposer
      @MComptoncomposer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Sorat - they needed more space between the notes 😊 they were playing it just a little to fast, so they’re rhythmic integrity wasn’t quite spot on yet!

    • @yihanwu1126
      @yihanwu1126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      a. y It has to be a triplet and an 8th. The triangles were playing 4 8th notes.

  • @Nobody-xz5ci
    @Nobody-xz5ci 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I feel so bad for thinking that the conductor is useless, from watching twoset I have learned that the conductor basically carry the whole team

  • @JohnJApanovitch
    @JohnJApanovitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Being a conductor myself, with over 5 years of experience, I relate to this video a lot. I make mistakes too, but that's okay. I was always taught that if you mess up, try to fix yourself in the next bar when possible. Very funny video, and I agree that conducting is a very tough and very serious job, even though I only do it as a hobby. :)

  • @CBusschaert
    @CBusschaert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1274

    I've been a percussionist in a few amateur orchestras, and triangle has ALWAYS been the highest expectation on sound design. Everyone outside of musicians tend to make jokes about the triangle being easy to play (because it's "just tapping a metal triangle you see") but it's extremely hard to play precise rhythms with it, I have found. Doing that one rhythm, alone, is somewhat feasible, but to coordinate with your triangle-mate to be precise enough? a nightmare.

    • @ryano.5149
      @ryano.5149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Well said! Much like the piccolo, it can cut through the entire orchestra. It is definitely not something to be taken lightly.

    • @KathyHoismygovtnm
      @KathyHoismygovtnm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      I'm getting nightmare flashbacks from that clip... Worse thing about percussion is that if you fuck it up, *everybody* knows. Doesn't matter if you have the smallest part, *everybody* hears you

    • @furanrabbits
      @furanrabbits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Thank you! I was waiting for this comment defending percussionists! Twoset doesn’t know how difficult percussion is!

    • @sarahburckle9441
      @sarahburckle9441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Kathy Ho definitely, I hated that. I'm a harpist, but one semester they didn't have any harp parts and needed percussionists so I did it. Going from an instrument that's kinda quiet so it's not too noticeable when you mess up to loud as fuck percussion was nerve wracking

    • @connormurphy5585
      @connormurphy5585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Each triangle should've been suspended with two clips.

  • @dacoconutnut9503
    @dacoconutnut9503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    TwoSet: "conducting is hard"
    My mom: "these old guys just wiggle their arms, of course it's easy pffff"

    • @sigggo
      @sigggo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah xD

    • @pswww_cs
      @pswww_cs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      **Are they the conductors who don’t get respect in the orchestra?**

  • @opticalbag
    @opticalbag ปีที่แล้ว +23

    my heart is hurting for those percussionists omg there's just not much more you can do for that triangle part lmao. as a percussionist, can tell u our part always goes SO downhill when we're stressed LOL

  • @eugenetzigane
    @eugenetzigane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    In the clip with Kleiber, it's a bit hard to hear because it's a bootleg video. But it's pretty clear that the orchestra just went on autopilot when Kurt Moll (the bass) finishes his phrase. In that moment, the singers onstage are quite slow and the orchestra doesn't react at all. Kleiber is on it immediately showing a crazy clear cutoff on 4 with a fresh downbeat to adjust the orchestra's timing to the stage but they are nowhere to be found (granted his new downbeat is late to the stage but in these emergency situations, these split second gestures can save the day even if they aren't perfect). Kleiber took things very personally as always, hence the stab to the heart. But it's true that the orchestra completely dropped the ball in that moment. And any opera conductor worth their salt knows you can't fix the stage but you can adjust the orchestra.
    Thanks for all the great videos!

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot that was Kleiber! I didn't recognize him!

  • @calcifer1234
    @calcifer1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +599

    My teacher, when I haven’t practiced:
    “It’s worse. Well, congratulations ”

  • @anniezhang3052
    @anniezhang3052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    conductor: *does super coordinated and complicated hand movements that bring everyone together while looking at the singer*
    people in the audience: *does 3/4 counting and pretends to conduct* haha this is so easy

    • @JSUNLIME
      @JSUNLIME 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh god no

    • @izumi5304
      @izumi5304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I have to admit, I used to do this. But then I took a music class in uni and realized that it’s really difficult. Mad respect to conductors!

  • @men_del12
    @men_del12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Ah yes, triangle. The smallest and yet still included part on orchestra.
    Which reminds me of Amazing World of Gumball where Gumball nailed the triangle part...and everyone is dissapointed.

  • @magfe888
    @magfe888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This brought back traumatic memories of playing once in high school band... during one concert, the band's tempo got so out of sync that the conductor had to cut us off and restart from a measure in the middle of the piece. He tried to keep it cool, but we all were ready to pee our pants because we knew we were in such deep trouble for not watching him to keep tempo. To this day, the look on his face as he gave us the second "downbeat" for the piece is burned into my memory lol

  • @smorgasen1031
    @smorgasen1031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2953

    I love my orchestra conductors so much. They are always so into the music, like with their whole hearts.
    They don't hesitate to roast us if we're bad, but it's not in that scary and angry way. Like for instance when we played a piece by Wilhelm Stenhammar one of them said:
    "I'm glad Stenhammar is dead, so that he can't hear you play right now. He would've been so sad."

    • @killerfrenchy
      @killerfrenchy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

      lol savage. i think thats the key tho, roasting the whole orchestra or a whole section is one thing. singling out one person is another

    • @diilnuv7052
      @diilnuv7052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      my conductors like "oh this *used* to be a good piece" so I guess its mild and nice jokes

    • @anastasijajankovic9030
      @anastasijajankovic9030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      U dont happen to be from LUO Kulturskolan...?

    • @smorgasen1031
      @smorgasen1031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@anastasijajankovic9030 I am! Omg who are you

    • @anastasijajankovic9030
      @anastasijajankovic9030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@smorgasen1031 hhahahahah jag är hon med svarta fiolen!!!

  • @laylam.9314
    @laylam.9314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    As a middle school teacher, I've just felt a spiritual connection to those conductors. Trying to guide a bunch of very different people who have very different ideas of why the heck they're in a group doing the thing, which thing we're doing, and why there's somebody at front getting increasingly frustrated... lord have mercy on us.

    • @AlienXCherie
      @AlienXCherie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thank you for your service **salute**

    • @annabellep6460
      @annabellep6460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      As another teacher I’m with you there.

    • @karlpron
      @karlpron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As yet another teacher I have to agree. :) And we explode because we're delicate and we care. Show me a teacher or conductor or any other leader who doesn't explode and I'll show you somebody who doesn't give an F(sharp).

  • @alexiaking5241
    @alexiaking5241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Talking about the section by section and then the “no” after KILLS ME. The ANXIETY knowing eventually he’ll get to you but you’re section isn’t ready omg

  • @JayyCee1
    @JayyCee1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "as a triangle player you're probably not used to having such high expectations on your part" Eddy 2020

  • @gigipizzuto4068
    @gigipizzuto4068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Conductors have the hardest job. They have the longest solo... It lasts the whole concert and usually is where all crowd's eyes end up.

    • @ericross5048
      @ericross5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gigi Pizzuto also they stand for the whole performance. I just realized that.

    • @kellenmitchell9990
      @kellenmitchell9990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I...can’t tell if everyone is being sarcastic or not...

  • @noriyori9249
    @noriyori9249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    A friend of mine is a conductor and his broke his knee while conducting.
    The passion.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The osteoporosis.

    • @jomireel
      @jomireel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really?

    • @ontaka5997
      @ontaka5997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Does he happened to be "Jean Baptiste Lully"?
      Maybe not, but he died of injuring his foot (smashed with his conducting staff) during conducting.
      Tough times when there were no antibiotics.

  • @chioriki8386
    @chioriki8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I started to be amaze of the conductor job when I saw all the hard effort and lot of hours Chiaki (Nodame Cantabile Anime) put into making a orquestra sound decent, learning the partitude by memory of every instruments, understanding the melody, musicality and even the creator and their background, it really was amazing to see all that.

    • @joshuamullen5041
      @joshuamullen5041 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's one of my favorite anime! Unfortunately they never came out with an official boxset with good English subtitles. 😭

  • @franktalks9196
    @franktalks9196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have always wanted to be a conductor. And now that u know the hard parts of being one, it makes my dream bigger. Thank you!

  • @kateschmid2889
    @kateschmid2889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    My favourite quote from a conductor: "This is not a democracy!"

    • @letolune
      @letolune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      "This is a benevolent dictatorship" -my middle school band teacher

    • @pseudonym517
      @pseudonym517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This applies to:
      swim team
      band
      orchestra
      marching band
      symphony orchestra
      professors
      literally every group project
      figuratively every group project
      jobs
      life
      dictatorships
      democra-wait. never mind.

    • @TiSuNaMe13
      @TiSuNaMe13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pseudonym517 also rugby

  • @misterscumfluffles3514
    @misterscumfluffles3514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    it’s even scarier when a conductor you respect asks you to play alone because you don’t want to disappoint them

  • @delta61
    @delta61 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    First clip is Carlos Kleiber, a usually very friendly and calm conductor who was famous for his cooperation with orchestras even though he never stuck with a particular one. Quite a perfectionist from what I've heard. You can watch rehearsals with him and you see what a nice and funny person he was.

  • @creandoCOSASdiy
    @creandoCOSASdiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Don't mess with Yuja Wang and her Mendelssohn's piano concerto or a giant viola will tear your homes to pieces.
    Seriously, the second movement of that concert is incredible.

  • @FTTPRO
    @FTTPRO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    As a percussionist, I can tell you those guys weren't playing the part right. They should have played it on the inside, one-handed, and with great force; the alternative hand should have been dampening the notes so that they were more staccato. They could have also played the phrase on the widest parts of the triangle so that the notes traveled less. Either way, they were playing it too legato. Ringing the notes over each other.
    I'll tell you one thing though; when a percussionist doesn't know what they are doing wrong, they'll never play it right. It's happened to me, I know the feeling of starting to sweat and just simply not know what to do.

    • @ginacodding4135
      @ginacodding4135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      To be fair, there are SO many different percussion instruments and it’s hard to be an expert at them all! Some require reading notes, not just rhythm, and each one has its unique technique.

  • @tacoqueenindustries674
    @tacoqueenindustries674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    *The violas weren’t playing bad, he just wanted them to be heard more in the rehearsal ^^

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      yeah that's what the guys were getting at. they were saying the violas were likely trying to play the heck out of that melody after the conductor yelled for more viola, not that they were making errors, just couldn't be heard enough,

    • @fairydragneel4567
      @fairydragneel4567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah you right cuz I have never heard a viola section play wrong or bad the only section I have heard play bad is cough cough second violins cough oh sorry what was I saying I forgot but anyways y'all need to stop with the viola jokes

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      In my experience viola sections tend to be undermanned, which makes balancing against the rest of the strings very difficult.

    • @sarahr3076
      @sarahr3076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thread Bomb Very common in amateur orchestras. I’ve spent so much time playing in sections of two. Might as well not even play half the time and just play the soli and other thin passages, ‘cause no one will hear you with the full orchestra playing anyway. And my viola is nice and loud.

    • @glorytofathersonandholyspi5101
      @glorytofathersonandholyspi5101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mayra Portillo violas and 2nds mess up in equal amounts

  • @icia8380
    @icia8380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    5:36 this is a representation of second hand embarrassment on full potential

  • @catherineromanov
    @catherineromanov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    can't believe they skipped over my mans Weird Al Yankovic like that

    • @michaelabonsu8611
      @michaelabonsu8611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That was very sacreligious

    • @PEACHIE-.-
      @PEACHIE-.- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Really​ really​ sacreligious

    • @alostkoi
      @alostkoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not like he's so famous worldwide

  • @angeladominique5846
    @angeladominique5846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    WHY BEING A TWOSET FAN IS THE HARDEST EVER:
    You prevent us from practising! Just kidding. We love you, guys!

  • @themoistestmouse6153
    @themoistestmouse6153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    i thought all it took to be a conductor is to have delocalised electrons

    • @stephendonovan9084
      @stephendonovan9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      God. Damn it. I love it but I hate it.

    • @cindy85
      @cindy85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HAHAHAHHAHA

    • @e.t.b.1580
      @e.t.b.1580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but you're discounting other charged quasiparticles (like holes).

    • @joshuamullen5041
      @joshuamullen5041 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL

  • @anahatamelodeon
    @anahatamelodeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One of my favourite conductors was Gennady Rozhdestvensky. Absolutely minimal hand movements, fantastic music. It just proves that it's all in the rehearsals and the orchestra's respect for the man. A player in one of the London orchestras said he just made you want to play your best for him.

  • @TheNitrop
    @TheNitrop ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:32 Nerves of steel of the conductor. We fucked up, let's just chill and start back, we got this guys.

  • @waypointb
    @waypointb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +689

    So you were talking about "red alert" conductor gestures -- here's one, and it has nothing to do with the music. In high school I was in the orchestra pit for Kiss Me Kate. It has a lot of showbizzy play-in-a-play humor. At one point Harrison Howell crashes a rehearsal by driving his truck onto the stage through the outdoor backstage access, and stop a bit short of the orchestra pit. The actor driving wasn't sure how far forward the front wheels were and didn't know where to stop. The conductor made increasingly panicked "STOP" motions and signed the cross while us musicians dove for cover under the apron's supports.
    THAT was a red fuckin alert D:

    • @TheMimiandbb
      @TheMimiandbb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Please tell me everyone was okay. That sounds horrifying

    • @waypointb
      @waypointb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@TheMimiandbb Yeah nothing actually fell, lol. But what was about 12 inches from falling was a 2.5 ton truck.

    • @gogbordpro765
      @gogbordpro765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waypointb okay

  • @lavanyasaravanan4098
    @lavanyasaravanan4098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    We know this was recorded a while ago because of Brett’s glasses

    • @fadzilahagustin9097
      @fadzilahagustin9097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No no, maybe he back to wear his old precious glasses 😅

    • @Nezumi99
      @Nezumi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Omg, aren't u a sherlock

    • @YasminCarli
      @YasminCarli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I have two glasses and some days I choose the old one...

    • @fadzilahagustin9097
      @fadzilahagustin9097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Nezumi99 he seems not confident with his new glasses. While i got used to see him with new glasses 😞
      Btw he got his round glasses since 2018 when they did world tour. But he rarely wear them. On one of his old snapgram he thought that he would looks so bad with the round ones

    • @Vanereall
      @Vanereall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fangirl ling he’s right, he looks better with these glasses

  • @elipark2544
    @elipark2544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, these reminds me of all those times in our own youth orchestra. There was one time our conductor got so fed up with us that during the run off concert our maestro just started stomping to get us in time. And the amount of times he's made us restart, it's amazing.

  • @aidanphillips1820
    @aidanphillips1820 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That clip at 5:24 I've literally had happen to me when I was the Baritone in my first ever B Minor Mass. We didn't reset and honestly it made it so difficult to refocus and sing after that because I had so much second hand embarassment. Love y'all so much who can pull that Oboe duet off well!

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    When the conductor starts to sing when conducting...there might be something wrong.
    When the conductor suddenly tapped to stop the orchestra...then there is something wrong.

  • @teresavicario5848
    @teresavicario5848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    My favorite conductor quote...when rehearsing Norina’s aria with the orchestra the conductor slams his baton down and screams,”No No No !!!” (At this moment I am thinking, “ God, I hope that is not about me.”) he turns to the violins and screams, “ If she can sing all those damned notes, why can’t you play them!!?” Lol!!

  • @stephanier.5680
    @stephanier.5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The triangle part gives me nightmares. When you have a conductor that's never played percussion it's hard to translate what they are saying to what can be done

  • @elizabethgardner2341
    @elizabethgardner2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just luv these two bright and wonderful young musicians,, So much to learn from them,,

  • @amylam7862
    @amylam7862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I can't imagine how it feels when the conductor said "No it sounds like a doorbell"… I feel so sorry for those percussionists…

    • @cesteres
      @cesteres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bernstein sucked at explaining and made them nervous but to be fair I don't think they were well prepared either.

  • @dashamones4068
    @dashamones4068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Twoset: “Watch the conductor guys..”
    Also Twoset: who watches the conductor anyways?

  • @tamara.mw.
    @tamara.mw. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    yuja's stare at 4:11 .. she was ready for MURDER

  • @breakingdawnexpert
    @breakingdawnexpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My middle school orchestra conductor once stopped us in the middle of a concert and has us "start again from measure 120" because the first violins were 2 bars ahead of the rest of the orchestra. Most embarrassing concert moment of my life

  • @aviyachauhan4415
    @aviyachauhan4415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    “I’m not a triangle specialist but that sounds like a doorbell”

  • @cellodensetsu8778
    @cellodensetsu8778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    The "di-gi-da-dum" thing reminds me of when I was playing Beethoven's 7th 1st movement in youth orchestra. There is a motor rhythm basically the entire movement and the conductor pointed out that we could never keep it as it was - it would always morph into something else.
    I went to bed every night after rehearsal with that rhythm in my head.
    I bet those triangle players went to bed thinking "DI-GI-DA-DUM" all night XD

    • @Xezlec
      @Xezlec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Yanjun Sun Haha brutal... but deserved if you didn't practice lol

    • @cesteres
      @cesteres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Yanjun Sun well done, conductor!

  • @AviraRosalita
    @AviraRosalita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm not even a musician nor play in an orchestra but this stress me out somehow

  • @christinakatsaras7654
    @christinakatsaras7654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’d love to see a musical theatre version of the communication between singers and the pit because. I’ve seen some stuff

    • @kristinebenson6625
      @kristinebenson6625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Theatre orchestra playing is challenging because the vocalists do crazy things unpredictably. They change cues, skip verses or measures, or just skip a beat.. a great orchestra will adjust with them on the fly and it's incredible to see.

  • @lmaolol6276
    @lmaolol6276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    Brett and Eddy: Does Tik Tok move at the start
    Me: doesn’t have tiktok
    Also me: More time to practice though ((:

    • @cantaloupe4856
      @cantaloupe4856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      But how do u know it's from tiktok ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @isaacteo5355
      @isaacteo5355 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Audrey Adnyana my thoughts exactly

    • @mathilda8172
      @mathilda8172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cantaloupe4856 come on, everybody has seen that move thingy at least once before due to how many people do it.

    • @suzanna3838
      @suzanna3838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You probably have the best TikTok! A metronome!

    • @Leonaati
      @Leonaati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The woah was before tiktok :o

  • @user-pp3bf3he1c
    @user-pp3bf3he1c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    It's not just hard to be a conductor. It's even difficult to become one. At the beginning of your career you're being too soft or too hard and you end up being eaten by an orchestra.

  • @seeliechan2618
    @seeliechan2618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Conductor: VIOLA... VIOLA... VIOLA... 😡

  • @CrunchyVargas
    @CrunchyVargas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a violist this made me cry laugh. I was the principle and my section was so terrible, the last stand was reading comics (the joy of junior orchestra). I used to yell out measure numbers sometimes because they were so lost. Good times. The conductor would make us go stand by stand and after us it would just break down.

  • @mauricioDmassa
    @mauricioDmassa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    Conductor at 5:24 it's the priest Jesus Segade from my country (Argentina), and the piece is Messe in B minor from Bach, and they're playing in one of the most important cathedrals in the country (Lujan).
    He's mostly known cause he arranged the choir section of the Misa Criolla (you must listen to it).

    • @calebsousa2754
      @calebsousa2754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gracias, me lo estaba buscando!

    • @ouasselbentahar6566
      @ouasselbentahar6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      actually thank you ♥

    • @explosionsindasky
      @explosionsindasky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gracias, quería saber de donde venia el video.

    • @hb712
      @hb712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They screwed up the mass in B minor that badly?

    • @ciemartinez96
      @ciemartinez96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      gracias bro cuando lei “directo lujan” dije esto es en argentina jajajaja

  • @cyphosmusicx
    @cyphosmusicx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    imagine a deaf conductor using sign language but his orchestra thinks he's conducting

    • @anonymousshitposter1743
      @anonymousshitposter1743 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I’d feel so sorry for him.

    • @lunamiku4166
      @lunamiku4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think what you meant was Mute? Since if the conductor is Deaf then he probably couldn't hear the sound of the orchestra meaning he couldn't be a conductor

  • @2minutenwaren
    @2minutenwaren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am not a musician, therefor thank you for explaining details in these videos. I learn things and enjoy.

  • @laneylu6267
    @laneylu6267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discovered your channel at random, and it reignited my passion for classical music. Enjoy all the technical explanations you give.

  • @Jess-mk3vs
    @Jess-mk3vs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I didn't realize how hard conducting was until I played in an orchestra for someone's conducting recital and the sound that the student drew from us versus the sound that her instructor drew from us was completely different. Newfound respect for conductors after that...

  • @yasminnailyaqotrinnada7189
    @yasminnailyaqotrinnada7189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    I'm a conductor of my choir group. One day there was one of the singers who told me "Ugh, it's so tiring to sing again and again. Not like you, I know you aren't tired because you just move your hand"
    And I was like "shut the f*ck up, bruh you don't know anything"

    • @joelacosta5584
      @joelacosta5584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Yasmin Nailya tell them to conduct for a bit and when they do it and realize how hard it is they shut up

    • @owczyniartemidy2754
      @owczyniartemidy2754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I soooo agree with it! They don't know how tiring it is to keep in check all of them, to have them sound good! If something gets messed up, they blame the conductor! (WHO STILL HAS TO SING WITH THEM SO THEY DON'T MIX THE TEXT OR GET OUT OF TUNE WHILE STILL GIVING THE DYNAMICS AND MEASURING THE TEMPO) Uh, I feel you.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Conducting is a tiresome job cuz your main focus is to try to lead the whole orchestra and ensure no ones messed up or ahead or behind.
      Along side you gotta time things correctly for the orchestra with the baton or hand gesture. Especially when the orchestra messes up, it'll look really bad on the conductor on a live performance.
      I know struggles when I see.
      Also when joining any sort of band or music or of sorts ya gotta practice over and over until you get it right.
      Idk if my Schools league of legends club is even still going or active. But omg -_- the amount of noobs or somewhat good players I've played and trained is off the charts..... also it wasn't like a big group group like drama or what not but still.

  • @daniellereid01
    @daniellereid01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My Uncle used to play for the LSO when he started his career as a violinist. The conductor at that time was Sir Georg Solti. Now, sadly my Uncle had a passion for raw garlic and would easily consume a head of garlic a day. He decided to indulge before rehearsal one day and they weren't too long into it when Solti stopped the orchestra and screamed: 'Who's been eating garlic? Someone's been eating garlic!'. My Uncle raised his bow timidly and apparently Solti lost his charts and threw him out, telling him to not return until he'd gotten rid of the smell. Needless to say, he didn't do that again 🤣

    • @Klara_S.
      @Klara_S. ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are conductors always assholes?

  • @patriciarossman8653
    @patriciarossman8653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This segment made me miss orchestral playing so much. I was right there with Brett &Eddy, saying, "AACCKkK"! Playing under world famous conductors is an experience so intense, it's a workout far greater than 6 hours at a gym, and that's a body AND brain workout. All that, and I only lead the viola section. Yes, viola. I dare you. Can you imagine how much more difficult being the conductor is? The boys didn't even start discussing how the conductor how to memorize the score, every single part. There's a video of Rach 2, played by the Radio Danish Orchestra, and it's far and away the best performance that I've ever heard or played. The conductor employed no physical score, no stand with sheet music in between the orchestra and him. All from memory. You guys are right, conducting is AMAZING, lol!

  • @Pizzastealingninja
    @Pizzastealingninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Being a conductor is such a joy when communication is flowing and the ensemble is unified and enabled to operate smoothly. It's such a remarkably beautiful experience to be the interpretive processor that dictates the flow of a piece of music and allows a group of musicians to become greater than the sum of their parts.

    • @cupknee
      @cupknee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      my middle school band teacher probably wanted to kill herself when she heard us play then

    • @Pizzastealingninja
      @Pizzastealingninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cupknee nah fam, it's all relative to where you started. Progress is what's satisfying, not perfection.

    • @cupknee
      @cupknee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Evan Schindler I guess the problem was that middle school is only like 3 years long in the US, and we only had an hour a day to practice in band class and our class in particular pretty much never improved even by the end. maybe it’s because we were too young to take it seriously. one time our band teacher/conductor got so frustrated she started crying 😓 made me feel bad for band teachers who never get to see fruition

  • @K21GUM
    @K21GUM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    When the last conductor just gave up on the triangles, I, just watching over here can have the courage to laugh. However, if I were in that orchestra, I would't be laughing at their mistakes. The look from the conductor terrifies me when they couldn't get the sound he wanted. I would be thinking "what if it's my turn or my section?"

    • @xYonowaaru
      @xYonowaaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also it wasn't just some random conductor, it was Leonard Bernstein, one of the biggest composers and conductors of the 20th century.

    • @K21GUM
      @K21GUM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the more to feel terrified and nervous but still feel honored

    • @xYonowaaru
      @xYonowaaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@K21GUM Yep, still I wonder how this continued after the end of the video.

  • @Arsamenes1
    @Arsamenes1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the clip with Yuja Wang, it is Kurt Masur conducting and singing. I mean he was the chief conductor of the Gewandhaus Orchestra the New York Philharmonics and the London Symphony Orchestra for nearly four decades, so he knew what he was doing, but he was also feared for calling out musicians and their mistakes, even in concert. Also pointing at them in front of the audience. In this case, he might have even forgotten about being in concert, because he was in his 80s and already in a weak state of health. But most probably, he was just unsatisfied with the execution of the cello section, trying to "show" them his intended speed by singing along. After all, there are several conductors out there, sometimes singing or at least huming along without realizing.

  • @lucifermorningstar1902
    @lucifermorningstar1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:23 the only time I’ve seen Bernstein struggle at ANYTHING

  • @Youngei402tw
    @Youngei402tw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    As a percussion player for about 6yrs it's pretty damn hard to get the dikididam sound on that big size of triangle. And they should hit the triangle at the vertices not the sides it will get a shorter and higher sound, but actually the triangle is pretty hard to get that sound, even the conductor don't know how, so yeah just saying

  • @LorraineChan-qi6um
    @LorraineChan-qi6um 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    when you’re too early and there are no meme comments

  • @MishaTheElder
    @MishaTheElder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any clip with Carlos Kleiber is a treat. Whether he’s angry or explaining or whatever...
    Anyhow you should to a video on performers messing up and add the amazing clip where Maria Joao-Pires was supposed to play Mozart’s D-minor but mistook and prepared for something else... Amazing emotional expression...

  • @BobbyHernandez
    @BobbyHernandez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If anyone is curious the “viola!” clip is from Bruckner no 7 1st movement which is an amazing piece

  • @vickienorgrove5480
    @vickienorgrove5480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    8:33 “I’m not a [triangle] specialist” is a classic line when you’re a passive aggressive conductor.

  • @celofelo
    @celofelo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    TLDR: The triangle clip reminded me of how I abandoned my pursuits as a percussionist and became a cellist instead after my triangle playing dreams were crushed by a conductor who told me my playing was too "clangy". Note: This in no way is a knock to percussionists out there at all! It really is an incredible art to understand the thousands of techniques to create these intricate sounds. It just wasn't for me!
    Story time: Growing up, I was active in my school's band and orchestra as a percussionist and cellist respectively. Often I participated in state/ regional honors ensembles, and there was one particular instance where I was offered positions as a percussionist and a cellist in the same honors orchestra ensemble. Not knowing the repertoire or part assignments, I selected to participate as a percussionist.
    Alas, the repertoire turned out to offer little satisfaction as a percussionist compared to what I would have gotten to experience as a cellist, and I was particularly saddened to discover that I was assigned a triangle part for Rossini's "William Tell Overture". I watched my cello colleagues longingly as they played the famously sumptuous cello soli at the opening of the piece. Meanwhile, I beat along on the triangle, each strike like a piercing reminder of my poor decision making in this instance.
    At one point, the conductor stopped the orchestra, looked at me and asked "Triangle, can you be less clangy?"...to which I responded with my finest DING..."Again!" the conductor ordered...DING etc. This went on for what felt like several minutes. And of course, my cello friends are silently doubled over, faces bright red from surpressing their laughter at my humiliation.
    And that was the last time I ever played percussion in an orchestra. I have since made my permanent home in the cello section where I hopefully will never be accused of being clangy again.

    • @sarahr3076
      @sarahr3076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      celofelo I often feel sorry for the percussionists I know with their alternating periods of boredom and madly scrambling from one instrument to another. It’s a nice life to be a violinist, violist or cellist playing more often than not.

    • @glorytofathersonandholyspi5101
      @glorytofathersonandholyspi5101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah I feel bad for you but I’m glad that you didn’t quit music completely........(and didn’t choose viola)

    • @cesteres
      @cesteres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If composer wants beautiful sound he doesn't write for triangle. Right?

    • @matchos
      @matchos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure the guys playing triangle weren't percussionists and they were filling the role.

    • @dallasstiles118
      @dallasstiles118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for the commiseration. I'm a pianist and percussionist and have wanted to strangle several conductors when playing in the back.

  • @lizziesmusicmaking
    @lizziesmusicmaking 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of the things I've learned from running a mini-choir, and from someone I know who recently started conducting an amateur orchestra, is how much time and effort is spent outside rehersal organizing music. Picking music to learn, picking out songs for each sunday, running it past the pastor, rearranging music for your group, checking you aren't infringing copyright by accident because the laws are confusing, printing off parts because someone has lost theirs, figuring out what you're short of, and making sure you bring your music and the spares to rehersal etc etc. In addition to making sure everyone knows practice times and changes to schedules, and all important parts of the loop know what's going on, learning to play the accompaniment on the harp and to sing all the verses and so on. There's a lot to running a group of musicians. And I'm just running a tiny church choir mostly singing in unison, not conducting.
    The person with the orchestra has a much more complex job than I do. They spend so much time eyebrows-deep in music composition software rearranging parts for the unusual instrumentation they've got, listening to youtube videos of the piece with the score in front of them, and generally learning it inside out, backwards and forwards. And so many more people to wrangle, and money and practice space stuff to worry about that I don't have to deal with as a church group.
    Wrangling music and people is a huge, time-consuming, and almost-invisible part of the job.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in my orchestra. They make other people do it. My friend the viola player did nearly all of it one time

  • @jenniferjung5499
    @jenniferjung5499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I used to be a pucussionist and you have no idea how many times I was called out by my cunductor because the pucussionists next to me kept doing such a horrible job with the instruments 💀and EVERY TIME I was singled out to teach them how to do it right, I literally hated how much everyone was always staring while it took 10 whole minutes to fix a mistake 💀💀💀