There is a glitch that can help you practice Z-Counter First go to training and choose Vegeta END SSJ2 with "Piccolo Type Potara" vs Goku END with "Piccolo Type Potara" Try to do three beam clashes the first and second time you must win In the third clash let Goku win Now the glitch is activated Goku will do Z-Counter every time you try to hit him
The easiest way to improve your z-counter is to bind up+square (z-counter) to one button. You ever notice how easy it is to vanish an attack as opposed to z-counter it? For me, I binded the z-counter input to the L3 button so now my chances of z-countering an attack are up at least 2x.
Only now did I realize you're Jahred Mario. I've been watching your TASes long ago and was wondering where your channel was, only to realize TH-cam might've done something unfair to you. Nice knowing you're back dude. Also, good tutorial, been playing the BT4 mod and was wondering if it works the same as the NTSC-U.
Some people already know that this tutorial isn't finished, since there are lots of things I haven't mentioned in this video. Looking forward to share more infos soon. 😊
Came back to this video since sparking is out and i gotta say this is a perfect video to give an idea of how to do it i never understood how to do it as a kid but now i realize its legit luck most of the time
I play mostly in the competitive discords for BT3 on the tournament standard Wii (Dolphin) PAL version at 120% speed to make it 30 FPS. I'm not entirely sure how that may differ the timing, but in that ISO the ZC is only 1 frame, and to my knowledge it's only 1 frame in every version of the game, so I thought I should just mention that. Great video though, the demonstrations were extremely well done!
How the hell do you counter a counter? I'm guessing it's like when someone tries to grab you, you then Z counter that grab. But my head hurts with understanding the idea of "you can Z counter a sonic sway" .. like what. I don't think I have ever seen that in action before. 💀
@@NinjaXFiles Basically, depending on the character, some counter attacks done after a sonic sway take long enough to where the person getting sonic swayed can return to neutral before being hit, thereby allowing them to ZC the follow-up. It's quite literally only by a frame though. Here's an example: th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxnofwpyJYlY0823B-2ojfTYhaOjgnHZ4m?si=vVWxRxwz6zTxJeEn
I forgot to mention as well, it depends on the character getting sonic swayed as well. They need to have a fast enough rush to return to neutral before the counter attack finishes. It's a very uncommon scenario but still very possible.
Max level cpu has Z-countered some of my sonic sways in the past, I've always tried and failed haha, was never good at z counters in BT3 tho, Sparking Zero has it much easier as the game is rendered at 60fps, flows easily and better to me that way. Super counters inherited almost everything of the classic Up square Z-Counter, I think it's not possible to super counter perceptions and sonic sways, the rest it's all possible.
I spent so long looking for a video like this and I now realize I will never be able to pull these off reliably😭.0033 of a second isn’t fair, I bet sparking zeros isn’t that bad if it has z counter. I’d love to have the satisfaction like “Hey alright I got this now!” But this is too much
what about when 2 characters vanish at the same time and start clashing and siaapearing, but no button input is shown so u don't know how to win, the camera switches perspective and shows them clashing in like a 3rd person view. It happens a bit in story mode I think one time with Nappa. What is that called or how does it happen and how do you win it???
Are you talking about Aerial Clash? If yes, it's only possible in story mode. If you want to win that clash, you need to react fast. Unless you wanna play BT4 mod.
Is there a lockout window for z-countering? If so how long is it(if you know it by the frames). Does vanishing have the same lockout window? Do the 2 coincide or can they be used alternative to each other, back to back? Dunno if you'll make another video answering these but it'd be nice to know.
Are you talking about the Vanishing Z-Counter (After a first person uses a Z-Counter)? They have bigger frame windows to counter a Z-Counter. This video needs part 2 of course. 🤔
this may be a stupid question but I use analog stick, is that wrong? for a z-counter do I need to rapidly switch to the directional pad + square and the continue with the stick?
I honestly don't know, since the in-game FPS is capped at 30 FPS in order to not lag. If you see some people who play at 60FPS, they're probably using Lossless Scaling, and/or some video editing stuff.
@@leadster2256 - I'm afraid it's not also possible to make 60 FPS in PS2, since people are using some interpolation stuff too, and/or maybe just modifying the settings a bit so it looks smooth, but the gameplay is sped up. 🤔
@@XenoCarmesin I wondered if there was a demo or something I may have skipped showing Z counters. Yeah we'll have to wait till the whole thing comes out.
@@NinjaXFiles oh no. They showed Z counters in sparking zero alright. Only reason why you didn't notice is because back in BT3 Z counter will have the character teleport behind their opponent and smash attack them. However, in sparking they changed that. Now they don't do that at all unless you vanish and then they vanish.
The game is running at 30FPS native. If you're talking about my other videos, they're interpolated using a video editor. 😅 I uploaded this video as 60FPS for tutorial/guide purposes.
@@Goheezythecloutgod - Z Counter is much more easier to do in BT4 mod, since the modders gave more frame window to execute it. The best thing to do is tapping Up + Square. If you try to spam it while you're getting hit, it won't work.
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There is a glitch that can help you practice Z-Counter
First go to training and choose Vegeta END SSJ2 with "Piccolo Type Potara" vs Goku END with "Piccolo Type Potara"
Try to do three beam clashes the first and second time you must win
In the third clash let Goku win
Now the glitch is activated
Goku will do Z-Counter every time you try to hit him
@@VegetaSAG doesnt work
@@KyubiCloaks goku ssj2
i just playing game for three days and now i see your video in recommend video. OMG THANK YOU SOO MUCH.
THANK YOU ,THANK ,THANK THANK YOU SOO MUCH
The easiest way to improve your z-counter is to bind up+square (z-counter) to one button. You ever notice how easy it is to vanish an attack as opposed to z-counter it? For me, I binded the z-counter input to the L3 button so now my chances of z-countering an attack are up at least 2x.
@@psnisy1234 can you do that in Sparking Zero?
Did you do this in an emulator "controller" setting?
@TOTALLYsup Yes
@@thefallen2220 actually no, you can't bind buttons in SZ, only to choose between classic and standard controlls
@@psnisy1234 i use L1
Phenomenal guide, thank you!
Thanks Xeno Camesin ❤
CHOOSE OPENGL Render because no input lag 1:1, Easy to Z counter
Gotta test that. 🤔
How's that work
@@deckkid101 reduce input lag gameplay
@@Xeno_Infinite i did that and youre right it’s easier now
@@Anonmany good
Only now did I realize you're Jahred Mario. I've been watching your TASes long ago and was wondering where your channel was, only to realize TH-cam might've done something unfair to you.
Nice knowing you're back dude. Also, good tutorial, been playing the BT4 mod and was wondering if it works the same as the NTSC-U.
Some people already know that this tutorial isn't finished, since there are lots of things I haven't mentioned in this video. Looking forward to share more infos soon. 😊
Came back to this video since sparking is out and i gotta say this is a perfect video to give an idea of how to do it i never understood how to do it as a kid but now i realize its legit luck most of the time
It's literally not "luck", it's based on how skillfully you time your inputs.
I play mostly in the competitive discords for BT3 on the tournament standard Wii (Dolphin) PAL version at 120% speed to make it 30 FPS. I'm not entirely sure how that may differ the timing, but in that ISO the ZC is only 1 frame, and to my knowledge it's only 1 frame in every version of the game, so I thought I should just mention that. Great video though, the demonstrations were extremely well done!
Also, forgot to mention, once again I don't know if version matters, but under certain circumstances sonic sway can also be Z Countered!
How the hell do you counter a counter? I'm guessing it's like when someone tries to grab you, you then Z counter that grab. But my head hurts with understanding the idea of "you can Z counter a sonic sway" .. like what. I don't think I have ever seen that in action before. 💀
@@NinjaXFiles Basically, depending on the character, some counter attacks done after a sonic sway take long enough to where the person getting sonic swayed can return to neutral before being hit, thereby allowing them to ZC the follow-up. It's quite literally only by a frame though.
Here's an example: th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxnofwpyJYlY0823B-2ojfTYhaOjgnHZ4m?si=vVWxRxwz6zTxJeEn
I forgot to mention as well, it depends on the character getting sonic swayed as well. They need to have a fast enough rush to return to neutral before the counter attack finishes. It's a very uncommon scenario but still very possible.
Max level cpu has Z-countered some of my sonic sways in the past, I've always tried and failed haha, was never good at z counters in BT3 tho, Sparking Zero has it much easier as the game is rendered at 60fps, flows easily and better to me that way.
Super counters inherited almost everything of the classic Up square Z-Counter, I think it's not possible to super counter perceptions and sonic sways, the rest it's all possible.
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It's TAS, but thanks.
Is anyone here getting ready for sparking?
Yup!
NO ITA=S GOING TO BE TRASH PLEASE STOP THE BULLSHIT THIS GAME WILL AND FOREVER BE THE BEST
@@colebrown8293 Speak for yourself. People have been waiting for this game for years.
@@colebrown8293 cope
@@Goheezythecloutgod yup
This video is perfect
But I can’t take the timing 😭😭 for thé espace with O it’s Oke buts for this it’s a 1/10 attempt
Watching all these Z counter vids in prep seeing it in the latest trailer for sparking zero
i think you can practice z counter with nappa in story mode, since he z counters a lot
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I spent so long looking for a video like this and I now realize I will never be able to pull these off reliably😭.0033 of a second isn’t fair, I bet sparking zeros isn’t that bad if it has z counter. I’d love to have the satisfaction like “Hey alright I got this now!” But this is too much
Hmbro how to z counter in mobile plzz bro
Same as in this tutorial, but in mobile.
@XenoCarmesin 👍👍 thanks and plz recommend a emulator for ps2 I use artherSX2
Here in sparkling 0 era
for me hardest z counter to do is vanishing counter really hard for me...
Tutorial up now on how to get bodied professional style in Budkai 4
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what about when 2 characters vanish at the same time and start clashing and siaapearing, but no button input is shown so u don't know how to win, the camera switches perspective and shows them clashing in like a 3rd person view. It happens a bit in story mode I think one time with Nappa. What is that called or how does it happen and how do you win it???
Are you talking about Aerial Clash? If yes, it's only possible in story mode. If you want to win that clash, you need to react fast.
Unless you wanna play BT4 mod.
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Is there a lockout window for z-countering? If so how long is it(if you know it by the frames). Does vanishing have the same lockout window? Do the 2 coincide or can they be used alternative to each other, back to back? Dunno if you'll make another video answering these but it'd be nice to know.
Are you talking about the Vanishing Z-Counter (After a first person uses a Z-Counter)? They have bigger frame windows to counter a Z-Counter. This video needs part 2 of course. 🤔
@@XenoCarmesin I was talking about vanishing in general. But yeah a part 2 would be nice.
this may be a stupid question but I use analog stick, is that wrong? for a z-counter do I need to rapidly switch to the directional pad + square and the continue with the stick?
Using the analog is fine, since it's considered "Up" too. 😊
I know it's a bit out of topic but, Is there a way to get the game to 60 fps on wii (dolphin emulator) ?
I honestly don't know, since the in-game FPS is capped at 30 FPS in order to not lag. If you see some people who play at 60FPS, they're probably using Lossless Scaling, and/or some video editing stuff.
@@XenoCarmesin maybe 60 fps is only possible in ps2 version perhaps but, thanks for answering :)
@@leadster2256 - I'm afraid it's not also possible to make 60 FPS in PS2, since people are using some interpolation stuff too, and/or maybe just modifying the settings a bit so it looks smooth, but the gameplay is sped up. 🤔
thanks! now show it to the guys who says Sparking 0 is dead because of "Super Counters" these guys keep on crying.
Bruh 😂
Please answer,so when u do square and up,do u hold the square and press up or just do a light tap and up?
I usually tap and hold them, but it doesn't matter as long as your timing is right. 😊
does this work for budokai tenkaichi 4 mod too?
Yes, but the timing has more frame window. And maybe I should make a video about it too.
@@XenoCarmesin definitely makes video on that too, that mod is incredible and the mechanics are slightly different
Is this not in Sparking ZERO? I looked it up and I only got BT3 videos lol or is it that people doesn't know how to do it yet?
Sparking Zero is not yet officially released, and people are still having a hard time to do this.
@@XenoCarmesin I wondered if there was a demo or something I may have skipped showing Z counters. Yeah we'll have to wait till the whole thing comes out.
@@NinjaXFiles oh no. They showed Z counters in sparking zero alright. Only reason why you didn't notice is because back in BT3 Z counter will have the character teleport behind their opponent and smash attack them. However, in sparking they changed that. Now they don't do that at all unless you vanish and then they vanish.
@@Velocity_YT - Hmm... Sounds like a "Vanishing Counter" 😅
Doesn’t this game natively run 30fps? How did you get 60fps?
The game is running at 30FPS native. If you're talking about my other videos, they're interpolated using a video editor. 😅
I uploaded this video as 60FPS for tutorial/guide purposes.
All combo does work in sparking zero ?
Can't say, since I already tested it and there are some differences. I think Z-Counter is not in the Sparking Zero. Maybe a plus?
@@XenoCarmesinno there’s a counter in sparking but that’s hard to do it especially in online
@@ddboule3437 - You mean Z-Counter?
@@dipsithecreeper - Yes I've seen it myself, I thought they removed that feature. 😅
Do you hold up square or tap
Tap
@@XenoCarmesin I’m playing on Z difficulty and it feels like my counter don’t work for shit (mind you I’m playing on steam deck pcsx)
@@Goheezythecloutgod - Are you playing the BT4 Mod? (Might as well hold the buttons too, to ensure the register of the button press)
@@XenoCarmesin yes
@@Goheezythecloutgod - Z Counter is much more easier to do in BT4 mod, since the modders gave more frame window to execute it.
The best thing to do is tapping Up + Square. If you try to spam it while you're getting hit, it won't work.
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Plz Reupload the fight between Gogeta and Vegito
I need to reTAS it, because I don't have the RAW files of them anymore, and there's no way to remove my old watermark. 😟
@@XenoCarmesin can you upload it somewhere else plz I'm addicted to watching it.
@@XenoCarmesinWith version 0.13.2 of the BT4 counter z group, you can do it continuously if the CPU does counter z continuously similar to yonion360
@@Kaioshin-z1k - You mean by pressing Up + Square?
@@XenoCarmesinI mean I'm like yonion360 in the z counter videos only the version of the BT4 group is version 0.13.2
Jahred Mario?
Hello, that is correct! 😊
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