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With the advent of this camera, a saying has appeared - the operator of the FX6 shoots, while the rest change the ND filters.
Internal ND is not a new invention
@@theblizza haha, what I wanna know is who said it?
6k pro has built in NDs 😉
@@bobbylasers but is it automatic? No…
@@TheDailyDriver won't be relying on that tho..
I've been an owner operator of the FX6 since about 3 months after it's initial release. I was amongst the second wave of preorders from the United States. Gotta say this camera has held up incredibly well, and I don't see myself needing to replace it for a VERY long time. It provides me with everything I could need in an A camera. It could be nice to have 6k as an acquisition resolution but with Topaz AI, it feels less and less of a necessity to capture higher than 4k if I can continue to use the camera I already own. If anything, I will move to the second version of the FX9, whenever that comes out.
We've been using several FX6s at our university media program for two years or so now, and our students love it (recently bought our 3rd and 4th). It's a great tool to teach students to use and manipulate auto focus. The only things we really miss from it are Genlock support and a minijack mic input on the body. It has become our main camera to invest in over the next few years to modernize our fleet.
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I've been running my FX6 for two years now so I guess that makes me an early adopter. All in all it's 95% of the way to the perfect camera. I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything other than ARRI. Few additional things I think are worth mentioning:
Additional PROs:
- This camera is rugged! pretty dust and moisture proof. There's no official rating but I've shot with it in rain and snow and dust-filled abandoned research facilities, and it handled like a champ.
- You don't need CFxpress cards with this camera. I've been shooting for 2 yrs with my Kingston v90 SD cards and never had a single issue
- The codec deserves additional praise. It's the golden sweet spot of quality and file size! Few people admit it but XAVC is way better than ProRes!
- You haven't truly tasted life until you worked with Sony's variable electronic ND. It's a gamechanger. A killer feature. Every hyperbole applies. Can't live without it.
- Client perception is a real thing. I've tripled my income with this camera over two years. It's hard to attribute it to just the camera of course but subjectively I'm sure it contributed. FX6 looks like a "real" camera to a lay person, especially when it's built out. I received many compliments on my rig from clients. It MUST have worked in my favor.
Additional CONs:
- Fx6 is not supported (and at this point will never be) by DJI RS2/3pro (no r/s or camera control). Cursory investigation leads me to believe it's Sony's fault
- Lack of 3.5mm mic jack is horrible. Not only does it hamper the modularity of the camera it also means the only way to get 4 channels of audio is with Sony's proprietary Mi-shoe audio accessories.
- The sad thing is that both these cons are not present on cheaper lower tier model - FX3. And even sadder - Sony could have enabled 3.5mm audio through USB-C port through firmware if they could be bothered! By this point I guess the 3.5mm debacle is forever unsolved.
- It doesn't record audio into separate file in S&Q mode like Canon C70 does. Sony could have added that!
- That mic holder is brittle AF, it's supported by a slim piece of plastic. The facebook group is full of people with broken mic holders
- Special recording modes cancel each other out. Can't have any combination of proxy / s&q / interval / pre-rec It's only one at a time and that sucks big time. S&Q pre-rec especially would be extremely useful
- Stock monitor is terrible - the screen itself and the arm. I ditched it almost immediately. But the monitor port has no rubber cover (unlike the top handle port)
Small personal pet peeves:
- Can't bind a button to MLUT on/off. Weird to not have LOG check button. But I never run the stock monitor so I don't care
- I hate wiggle and play and this camera has it almost everywhere - side handle, power port, hdmi - everything has play out of the box. Only SDI and TC are rock solid
- A lot of units (mine included) have bad multi-function dial right out of the box. It scrolls both directions unless you scroll it really slowly one click at a time
- The main menu is incredibly badly laid out. Just the logic of which settings go into which section is so backwards! But you get used to it by building your own user menu
- Having forced 8 tracks of audio in the file is inconvenient in post
Hey Shagral,
Great additions! Might be useful to know but you can do S&Q with Cache record on. I use it all the time as I shoot a lot of live sports content, the limiting factor is that at UHD 100FPS (my go to), you only get 5 seconds of Prerecord, compared to the 8 seconds the FS5 used to have (albeit at 200fps HD).
Still the cache record has saved my ass so many times, now I have button 3 as toggle cache record.
thanks for all this information! I'm a Canon C70 owner looking at Sony because of all the lens options. I'm still not sold on Sony color, however.
@@deelofilms I would argue that "color" is not a thing anymore. It only matters if you hand off footage with baked in color&contrast and/or editing in a rush workflow. So "color" only comes into play with WYSIWYG profiles. And there, S-Cinetone is hard to beat. But if you are shooting 10-bit LOG, you can make anything look like anything, using proper tools (not LUTs). That said, I really like how SLOG3/SG3C looks straight out of ACES transform. All in all, "*insert brand* colors" are a thing of the past with modern cameras.
We've been working with the FX6 for over 2 years now & it's been a true workhorse. From smaller run'n'gun Shoots to big multi-day Productions. Together with the FX3 it's a hard to beat setup in that range if you ask me 👌🏻
It's been a career changing purchase. I've been fortunate to have been working with the FX6 for almost 2 years now. Incredibly versatile camera and a joy to use.
Had mine for about 1 year now, best camera purchase I made, have been doing mainly TV ad's for the last 5 years and that work has slowed down a little. I picked the FX6 up to better suit bringing in corporate shoots and that's made this last year my most profitable ever - maybe not as exciting as bigger budget shoots but lots more of that style of work around.
FX6 has been my favourite camera to operate, a true workhorse like you say and a pleasure to shoot with - actually ended up using it on a bunch of ad's due to the autofocus and speed you can work at - ended up getting used alongside footage from RED with Cooke S7's and with the right lighting it's nearly impossible to tell apart in the final ad's.
One of the best features you don't often hear is the audio setup, I set 1 and 2 as manual levels for my Lav & Shotgun, then 3&4 as auto levels with limiter from the same tracks as a backup - never had an issue with audio as a result.
I used to own a RED and to be honest I love working with the FX6 so much more (especially given how long the battery lasts). The RED worked out for me in a lot of ways, and at the time opened doors for me and got lucky that I sold it before the prices crashed whilst still being in demand. FX6 paid for itself in the first couple months - can't say that about any other camera I've owned.
Colour science is much improved compared to the older Sony's I've used / owned (FS700, FS7, A7s) and pairs perfectly with A7Siii for gimbal stuff.
If anyone is on the fence - i've used a lot of cameras over the last 10 years, and this is my favourite - very versatile, not too pricey and a joy to work with.
What about the eva 1 from panasonic? I like the v log footage, but sometimes i do need good autofocus, because i am a solo operator, mostly doing live concerts or wildlife footage. I don't know if the fx6 would be a good choice
Absolutely. I had one of the first ones (number 33) and it's been phenomenal since day one. The first camera that finally delivers on all of the promises that camera manufacturers have been pushing for decades
Hey I got #30 I beat you
I still have an old Sony PD-150 that works 22 years later. I do not have an FX6 yet. I am surprised that they have not announced an upgraded version yet. I have 4K and 8K video in the Canon R5 Mk II I ordered, but my philosophy is to use a DSLR for taking pictures, and a dedicated video camera for video. I can understand why this camera is so popular.
That huge jump from 0 nd to 2 was killing me on a shoot last week. Such fine adjustment after that but that 2 stop hit is savage
same!
Isn’t that pretty comparable to when you initially screw on a traditional lens ND?
I used this cam last week for the first time and felt that too - where I most want that variable ND is between 0-2 stops and hitting against that is annoying. Combine that with being stuck at 800 or 12800 ISO in Cine EI and in terms of exposure the camera gets very inflexible just at that point. If they could make that ND variable from 0-2 stops and over and also allow you to change ISO in SLog3 it would be almost perfect. I love the dynamic range, the weight and long battery-life especially. Also being able to review clips with a touch screen slider to be able to check a certain moment quickly (as you can do on BM cams) would be great.
Dear Sony, we need the Sony FX60, a replacement for the FS5 for us the budget filmmakers. Also, another great video from CVP.
FX6 feels brand new still partly because they are so hard to find and partly because the last 3 years have absolutely flown by
Yea man, you’re comment made me think. 3 years! It feels like this came out this fall. Insane.
Please stop, you're making me feel old...... 3yrs???
I love mine so much I picked up a second one. It tics all the boxes and see this camera being a solid long term workhorse.
good concise 8mins on a popular camera. Thanks CVP.
I need this FX6! But at this point, I'm going to wait for a future FX6-ii. The a7RV have shown up some huge improvements to Sony's autofocus system which is what I need now so hopefully the future FX6-ii will have the new A.I. cpu in it. Yes, I do want that 8K resolution too but its the cpu that i want the most.
5999$ is huge amount of money but the quality of this semi-professional camera is deserved
As much money as this camera has made for people I don't think the semi- tag even makes sense in 2023
Can u please do an educational video how to match the Sony a7siii and the fx6 if one is using both cameras at a wedding or any kind of set.
Like the FX3, the Sony FX6 is a high-performance cinema camera that delivers exceptional image quality, impressive low-light performance, and versatile shooting capabilities for a range of professional video production applications.
Additionally, its compact and lightweight design and robust build quality make it a also a versatile and convenient option for on-the-go shooting in a variety of environments.
Love it.
I waited 6 months until mine finally shipped! Totally worth the wait (besides the lack of 3.5mm jack). I had rented this camera once, but now that I own one, I am absolutely loving using this camera paired up with my FX3.
I’m currently user of a FX6 For advertisements and documental stuff. Guys, I searched hard and did not find if FX6 has been used for a movie, d’you know something about it? Just curious.
I was actually at the BSC exhibition today talking to you guys about buying one of these - perfect timing for me that this video came out today haha
The first time I took this body out the box (work gear) I thought it was fake due to being so light. The FX6 is top of my list the moment I can justify having "cine" focussed setup alongside a stills focus setup. Currently the XH2s is my best hybrid option - unless I step up into the Mark 2 options from Panasonic like the coming S1Hmk2
So excited for the S1H Mk2. Could Shake up the industry if it has all the features expected. Have you heard anything about a release date?
@@dreambirdstudiosit won't. Unless God found a way to put auto ND in it.
The only thing missing from this is active stabilisation (software only) and a 3.5 input jack on body.
It's an amazing camera. Incredibly useful and reliable. Covers everything but the highend productions where you'll easily have the budget to rent an Alexa/Venice anyways. I wish the user interface was just a bit more modern and faster to work with, but prefer it infinitely to the crap that's in my A7IV. Lack of audio inputs with gimbal use is the biggest workflow issue, it becomes a problem on many of my shoots and requires workarounds.
does the A7IV make a good b cam for you? can you match them in post?
Ahhh beat me to the punch, I was working on a similar video waiting on 2 interviews, great content btw!
love your FX6 content bro! keep it coming
It would be great to have stabilization. Any news on a mark 2 coming out soon??
I can deal with the lack of audio issues however my biggest gripe is the lack of Genlock. If it had that I feel like it would hit the sweet spot for those looking to get into virtual production. Right now it's really only the Komodo or Blackmagic options. And after yesterdays Blackmagic announcement and their unwillingness to deliver a camera that is innovative that really only leaves the Komodo. And I really don't want to buy a Red camera.
I haven't used Genlock before, only timecode so I'm curious - Why would you need genlock to get into virtual production? Is timecode not accurate enough or something?
@@Mandaramaster In a simple explaination Timecode syncs each frame and genlock syncs each field basically. This prevents drifting. So for virtual production when you are tracking camera movement you need field accurate non-drift information from each device in the chain. Genlock does this. You can have it on everything else but if's it's not on the camera you start getting shakes and jitters as it runs through the system. Genlock is a holdover from the broadcast days that's why you don't see them on many newer lower priced cinema cameras.
This is it, a real tool camera. No emotions while using that thing, just shoot & make money. No cult, no worship, no snobs. Just grab it & chase the ROI. It’s like a Volvo, boring but a great machine. The only gate that needs to be unlocked is guarded by an atrocious user interface but you’ll learn that in a day.
And the automatic focusing works, it’s crazy to use that as someone who has worked as an AC and later had great ACs.
I’ll grab an ARRI if I want to drift and get inspired, I’ll grab that Sony if just want to get the work done.
Wdym? There is tons of brand snobbery involved with this camera
@@theblizza Yeah not implausible, I just never really experienced that (personal perspective) at least not in this tier of cine Alta. The Venice is a whole different story 😂
I love the FX6! Amazing little cine cam!
We need to move to 32 bit audio to avoid all the pre amp bulk and Bluetooth sync
As a proffesional re-recording mixer, I can say, no you don't.
I personally think this was my best investment in the past few years.
Is making my job easier and the quality of the footage is outstanding.
I am really happy and satisfied with the Sony FX6. 💯
I have owned FX6 for almost a year. The only thing I am not quite satisfied with is the design of the shotgun shoe, which protrudes too much and is unstable. Sometimes, the shotgun mic easily touched one's shoulder when having an over-shoulder shot. Though mine is intact now, many FX6 users complained that their shotgun shoes have broken easily in this way.
Great camera. Totally blows the competition out of the water for reality/documentary work
This felt like the longest 8 minutes video ever 😂😂
It would be nice if sony, for us older users, made a viewfinder for this camera.I tried to contact them but did not get a response. Please suggest to them that it is necessary. I just don't want viewfinder from other manufacturers. I hope that soon they will release a new version of the camera that will have a viewfinder in the basic set.
One thing I found while using filming the Red Carpet of Cannes Film Festival last month is that the second base ISO makes the rolling shutter a bit slower (how much ? Don't know, but you can very clearly see it's slower with a the billion camera flashes from the photographers render on the footage compared to the low base ISO).
I guess the same can be said avout FX3, A7S3 and every toher cameras Sony puts this sensor in.
awesome video. you guys have been a good source of information about the FX6. it seems there isnt a ton of stuff available for it on youtube (compared to alpha cameras). i have had mine for a week now and its easily the greatest cam ive ever used. it is a damn near perfect all rounder. if you are a DP, solo operator, or run and gun filmmaker, i dont think there is any better choice. the image stacks up and holds its own against anything else. i've been on lots of sets and used lots of cameras. graded lots of footage. blackmagic footage is definitely special but the FX6 is very close with much more features and reliability on long shooting days or more intense projects. i was debating an FX3 to pair with my A7S iii, but the ergonomics/camcorder style body and electronic ND filter put the FX6 on top. i grew up with camcorders and the FX6 is like a full frame dad cam on steroids. it feels and works like a true video camera, and the variable auto ND is like a magic trick. wish it had a 3.5mm jack but you cant have it all lol
Had mines for 3 months now and for documentary style shoots its been wonderful. Would love to have an anamorphic desqueeze option though
Honestly the image from the fx6 is way too clinical/boring/digital. I like the body, but I'd take a BM or komodo or C70 over this camera.
if you have fx6, better go get a fx3 to pair it, fx6 is pretty good for set up work, fx3 will fill the gap when you need low profile, need lightweight, compact size and in body audio, that fx6 can't give, great combo
Full Frame, Good Autofocus, perfect ND, light body, SDI out, RAW, 120p, comparatively cheap. Combined with a body that is ready to shoot handheld out of the box. Nothing else comes close.
12bit prores raw, "cheap", i mean its still a broadcast type camera that is meant to replace fs7 and fs5, not venice arri or red, a dp rather pair canon with arri than a sony by the way
C70 just looks better with an arguably worse form factor
I'm on the fence between a few FX sixes or a few FR7s for my live stream business.
Anyone here with experience from both FX6 and the EVA1? In terms of IQ how do they stack up?
When I was testing the A7S3 vs the Lumix S5 there wasn’t even any competition in terms of IQ. Panasonic seems to have a huge win in that department.
6k is a pretty noticeable hop in resolution over 4k. You'll definitely notice that jump in resolution with the EVA1. The main difference being the S35 sensor isn't as clean at it's second native ISO, the EVA1 ergonomics are also pretty terrible compared to the FX6. That said I think the EVA is the best bang for your buck if you need a camera that has internal ND's and an easy to rig body.
Been checking this account every day to see the video on the proteus lenses 😀
It's almost perfect! Wishing for 6K, better color 12bit
I'm still trying to clear something up here... does the FX6 ONLY spit out .mxf files or is there an options for straight up .mp4 and HEVC options like the FX3? I don't need or want an .mxf workflow and don't want to have to transcode everything.
Why do you need to transcode? In my experience both premiere and davinci open the files and are super easy to work with
You don't need to transcode, but the MXF container does not allow for Long-GOP 4K 10-bit. That's one big reason to not use the FX6.
@@DanIvanson I don't use either of those. I've built my entire channel using LumaFusion and I actually like it. I edit with my phone on the go as well. LumaFusion doesn't currently support MXF.
FOR NARRATIVE AND DOCUMENTARY WORK, IN WHAT SHOULD I INVEST ?
KOMODO OR FX6 ?
BEST kit CINE LENSES + 1 or 2 variable lenses AT A BUDGET OF 15 K $?
MIX OF LIGHTING sources AT A BUDGET OF 7K $ ?
please can you list the items by name ?
Another excellent video. Imo the bmpcc6k has better details and a much nicer look if anyone really cares these days. The c70 with internal raw and it’s canon look has maybe a more pleasing image but the fx6 is very much the “workhorse” that you reiterate though for many that is a pejorative. It hits the sweet spot for broadcast and events that just want to capture the reality of the situation with no frills. I’m not sure why it struggles to do more than that and maybe it’s the resolution. For some reason the look of the f5 and f55 or even the fx7 had something about them that gave them a character. Clean and accurate now seems a social media broadcast norm but I’m not too sure that it has much more to offer that world than an iPhone or it’s own smaller siblings. I’m not sure that it gives corporate work that high end gloss naturally but broadcasters love that Sony look for docs and interviews. A little bit of filtering really helps. Now that canon has screwed up the c300iii and 500ii by over pricing them and then shooting themselves in the foot with the c70, it’s left the fx6 all the pitch that at least the c200 might have occupied as a functional practical corporate cine camera. £6k js still a lot of money and it might be that the fx30 is about to undercut the fx6 in the same way that the c70 did for the higher c line. The bbc are mixing up iPhones and fx3s by the looks of it and it’s got to be better to have three fx3/30 for a two up interview than bringing in an fx6. Still good enough for itvs prince harry interview so probably sets the new normal. Functionality the grip is hugely underrated imo. Thanks so much for the video.
I agree, I bought a FX3 and FX6 three months ago (I also have a Pocket 6k Pro) and like so many say, yes it's a real workhouse! But I much prefer the image coming from the Pocket 6k Pro (it's not even close...) . The Sony's has this ultra clean look, almost too clinical that you find a lot on tv shows/news... I tried so many things to make the image more organic but it's nearly impossible (I managed to make it better for me but still it's not the look I'm looking for). I'm almost ready to sell them and get an Ursa or a Komodo (perhaps I'll keep the FX3 when I really need AF or low light capabilities). When I was using the Blackmagic, I was so impressed by the image quality, it was love at first sight, and it felt great to shoot, like I was making a movie. But Right know with the Sony's I don't feel the same passion than before, I can't really explain why..
@@jsleger3404 sounds very familiar. I know it’s a job but there is just no fun in shooting images that don’t excite us in some way. I took the c70 fx6 and 6k out around town and specifically tried to shoot boring images. All the cameras worked well but almost everything I shot with the 6k just looked special. The canon had great blacks but the 6k had detail and the kind of micro contrast that looks so organic. The Komodo is the only camera now that for me lies somewhere between reality and cinematic and has the detail and colours to compensate for a slightly less flattering look. The colours from the Komodo are amazing but bm does look like film.
@@KenFlanagan Yes I also prefer the Blackmagic look, I think it's the closest to an Arri. The Komodo sit in between the BM and the Sony's, in term of "look" (not as filmic/organic than a Blackmagic but also not as clean/digital as the Sony's). For some people, their #1 priority is the ease of use (AF, light,...), they are willing to sacrifice a little bit of image quality if the camera is easier to operate. For my part it's the opposite, I'm willing to sacrifice the ease of use, if I have a better image quality (I wouldn't say the FX6 has bad image quality, it's just not the look I like)
I’m glad to hear that Im not the only one who struggles to accept looks from cameras that are too clean when shooting narrative content. With the price of the FX6 since autofocus isn't a deal breaker I rather put that money toward an F55 or a RED Komodo. But I’m also rarely shooting handheld and typically have a tripod. The FX6 and FS5 physical formats with the hand grip are my favorite body formats of all time (the FS5 is not to be confused with the much larger PMW-F5). I think the CineAlta badge is the big differentiator. Even the F3 looks amazing, as does the F5. The FX6 doesn’t have the CineAlta badge so Sony appears to put the FX6 in a different category from their CineAlta line. I also agree that BMD’s pocket cinema cameras have amazing images but I don’t want to work with something that has a reputation for being buggy (which the Red Komodo has had some issues with but I don’t know if those issues have been solved with firmware updates.) I don’t want to work with a buggy camera no matter who the manufacturer is. Shooting is stressful enough as it is. But I 100% agree on the clinical look of many non-CineAlta Sony cameras. They have a cell phone commercial look that doesn’t work for me with my narrative content, but they’re so fast and easy to use and they have autofocus so something like the FX6 is very appealing in that regard. For fast paced documentary style shooting the FX6 / FS5 body style is my #1 preferred style of camera body with no close competitors for that type of shooting. 👈 I enjoyed reading everyone’s comments on the organic and non-organic natures of different cameras. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights. 😊👍
There is an interesting video here about someone who sold their FX6 for a BMD camera and their thoughts after the switch. “The Mistake I Made Selling My Sony FX6 (Switch To Blackmagic)”
Hi Jake, really good reprise of this really good camera. It has a lot going for it and I rather wish now I had a stock of Sony lenses when it came out. Almost went for it, especially for the variable ND but possibly foolishly despite that I was put off by the viewfinder ..... decisions can turn on such small things ......
the best camera body in the history.
Small audio glitch at 0:06 ;)
I have the FX6 and FX3. The first time I tried to do a multicam and shoot in S-Cinetone, the difference between the two cameras was very noticeable. So I have since been shooting in log on both and that way they match easily with a LUT in Resolve. Has anyone else had this issue when using S-Cinetone on the FX6 and trying to match it to the FX3?
if you could do it over again and only keep one the fx3 or 6 which once would you choose?
@@tonyamartin1425 I use the FX3 more for my own projects but if I could only keep one it would have to be the FX6 because I have had friends use the FX3 with clients and they hame commented on the size of the camera and the hassle of having to explain to the client size doesn't matter, it's not worth it. Show up with an FX6 where a client has paid well and they won't complain. If I never did client work, then the fx3 for sure.
watch fx6 master class with Alister Chapman it seems to be a white balance issue he explains it well I have the fx3 haven't used it yet I was thinking of going with an fx6 and A7iv set up
@@ChasingAmy why do you say the fx3 for sure?
@@tonyamartin1425 fx3 matches it in quality. Easier to carry around. Easier to handle. Easier on a gimbal. Built in image stabilisation. I know you can do it in post with FX6 but catalyst brows only exports in 8bit unless you pay a monthly fee which is shocking after spending 6k on a camera. If it had built in ND then the FX6 would literally only ever come out for client work. V4 firmware is coming for the FX6 though which will hopefully bring some good features.
Only thing I’d keep in mind if getting a non cineline camera to go with FX6 is Sony seem to now be adding cinema camera features via firmware update only for their cinema line like the fx6/3/30. The last major firmware didn’t add those same features to the latest A7S for example.
Is it over kill for just sit in studio compare to FX3?
looking forward to seeing you at BSC tomo
what are the best input settings to get the best image on the fx6
can you customize colors, hue etc on the fx6 like on the fs7? or its just basic settings like the A7 series? also do you know if the power supply of the fs7 would work on the fx6?
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I did tests in static and complex scenes (with leaves in the rain) and XAVC L actually performs better than XAVC I. There's less compression artefacts, less grain smearing and better color definition and sharpness.
I've seen someone else found the same thing and posted about this with their results. They were ridiculed to hell by people saying the noise reduction of the higher compression is what's responsible for the Long GOP looking better.
@@skymakai Nope. Not at all. The long GOP is actually retaining more of the organic grain, noise is being reduced less than in I. All aspects of the image are better in L. The organic sensor grain is retained and sharpness of edges. In I there is a lot more compression artefacts and smudging of colors.
If I could send screenshots here to prove it, I would.
I may have 2.5x more bitrate, but if L has a long GOP of let's say 12 images, it'll preserve way more than 2.5x times of information. I'll have to Google how many pics there are in each GOP.
@@lukastemberger I believe you. The other person talking about this seemed to say something similar. It's perplexing.
@@skymakai I just did some research. I use the FX6 and FX30 and they both showed better quality in Long GOP codecs than Intra in my tests.
The base of Sony's codecs is H264, which supports dynamic GOP size. Generally I've seen GOP sizes of cameras reported as 12-30 frames per group. So if the Long GOP formats can reconstruct the data from up to 30 frames in a group, it's no wonder they'll be better quality than Intra.
@@lukastemberger Sorry, I don't really understand that last statement. Intra should be better since each frame is essentially the original. I don't know how the dynamic GOP would result in better image quality over Intra.
Great cam 👍🏻 I love my FX6 😍 very good review 👏 just uploaded my first FX6 trailer😅 best cinematic greetings from germany
How does the ND filter works? Because with external rotating type variable ND filters we had complete destruction of contrast, colour, plus distinctive X pattern in the middle.
It's an LCD.Something like this: th-cam.com/video/7yFXKHV_MkU/w-d-xo.html
Even though I am currently running with the Sony FX30, I am still torn between the FX6 and the C70. The reason being, as a low budget/indie filmmaker, the C70 has that DSLR body style that draws less attention then the cinema body style of the FX6. It's easier to shoot in public places when your camera looks like a photographer's camera. Any recommendations for making the FX6 "blend in" more? :P
Do you plan to not have a mic on either camera? The second a mic pops onto a camera I get recognized for video regardless of the size of the camera. So it’s just about learning to be confident when you’re there and if security comes just listening to them and leaving.
Are you trying to covertly film indie movies? Seems like a camera would be expected on set.
If you don't mind not having an ND filter (and you should already be used to it with the FX30) you can get the FX3, which is inconspicuous, has the same sensor and most capabilities as the FX6. It'll match your FX30 as well in a dual cam setup.
I use an FX6/FX30 combo and couldn't be happier. Best of both worlds.
@@lukastemberger agree with this. I use magnetic NDs but I chose the FX3 because I do a lot of backpacking and hiking work and needed my system tiny. The fx30 is fantastic and really there isn’t much need to upgrade unless you want the slight DR boost and lowlight capabilities of the FX3
@@lukastemberger they match well in post?
excellent video as always
I prefer FX6. Small size, east to handle and more versatal.
More versatile? Where is the fx3 build in nds, where is the sdi? The fx3 is not more versatile. Its a social media camera and you have to rig it up a lot to make it usuable for real work.
No link in the description to the comparison video 😢
Great video!
Give me an FX3II with ND's inside and I will be stoked...
It was a home run this camera
i remember when it costs 4999eur. now 5999eur. i bought a FX3 back then for 4000eur. should have bought fx6....
Sony finally seems to have discovred that cameras should be about the art of photgraphy or videography and not the technology. However, a technology driven approach finally seems to be paying off. I always choose my Sony cameras for efficient good shots, but find that more artistic but not as technological choices can give those special shots.
Fantastic camera
See you on BSC EXPO!
Jake, why does Hollywood choose the Venice 2?
hello thank you very much for this explanation but I am a music video videographer and soon I want to make short films while would you advise me between the blackmagic 6k pro, the sony FX3 and the dony FX6. THANKS
Hey! Do you want to use the camera for work other than music videos? Jake
@@CVPTV hello thank you for answering me, so I want to use it for filming too and short films!
Does anyone use this for high-quality live streaming?
Strongly considering getting this and selling my Ursa 12k.
fuck no
It's simply good...
Global stutter right? I think i missed that part in the video.
No it’s just a really fast rolling shutter. Jake
@4:58. Canon?
I wish I saved a little more and got this instead of the pocket 6k pro. Would be nice to use AF sometimes.
Don’t worry the Pocket6k Pro is amazing! I have the Blackmagic, the FX6 & FX3, and the pocket has the best image quality! And by far!
can the ND control be remoted from ~4 meters away with a cable of some sort?
You can change most camera controls remotely including ND and variable ND via the Content Browser monitor app in camera control mode on an Android phone connected over Wi-Fi. The WiFi can be connected either directly to the camera or over an existing in House Wifi Network. You can control Rec and Stop Rec, White balance, ND, Iris, EI, Shutter Angle, Focus, and Zoom if you have a servo Zoom Lens. You can switch from Manual to Auto focus and the same with exposure. Cannot say about iPhone as I don't own one. There are cable options from Sony that also control just about everything.
@@mickymack1230 sadly WiFi proved to be extremely unreliable last season of shooting, we relied on a motorised ND filter for exposure
1. small af 2. electronic VND 3. iso12800
I think FX6 is even overall better camera than FX9. gimbal friendly design, better lo-lit performance, low noise level, no crop in 4k60p, similar image quality versus FX9. 6k to 4k oversampling only shows minimal difference, which makes FX9 somewhat meaningless.
Alllllllll the way back in 2020! Ah, the perspective of youth!!
C 70 ✌🏻
Can its sensor scan the whole 3:2 area during video recording?
Of course not
@@castielvargastv7931 💔
Be advised that Sony's menu design has been known to trigger suicidal thoughts.
I love this channel, but why do I always get the sense Cinema DNG is considered worthless by this host? i've yet to see him compliment for example Sigma FP for letting us shoot uncompromising cinematic footage with that little camera.
A bunch?
Sorry what are you asking?
STOP SELLING ME MY DREAM CAMERA! I CANNOT AFFORD IT!!!
Sad jokes aside video is amazing as always ;)
Update: one year later....
Just got FX6 :D
Fx6 video ? maybe mk2 coming hmm
Sony will need maybe another 10 years, to get rid this ugly FS type menu,. This plus autofocus was my real dealbrakers for my previous FS7.Terrible, and thats why I sold it.
The FX6/9 is a big step up from the FS7! The Autofocus is far far better and the new first level menu system does make it nicer to use, though the deeper menus can still be challenging to use. Jake
Because most people are noobs with very little experience with cameras. C70 is a much better camera and an ecosystem.
Sure...LMAO
I sold mine back in 2021, and made enough money to buy two C70s. I like the FX6, but it’s not for me!
Why you chose C70 over the FX6?
@@jacksonpetit1212
Better IQ, 10-stops of ND, lots of options with the speedbooster & S16 mode, etc.
@@EdmundElijah Ok understandable. Thanks.
@@jacksonpetit1212 the footage looks better
@@theblizza none of the camera houses in Boston carry the C70. Only Sonys.
Because most people are normies and use what others are using
Sony's isnt that popular in Europe
Say no to Sony
Fs700r for the win
I miss mine so much. Good times 🥹
Fantastic camera