GALAXY GRUDGE MATCH 28.1 - Ash Williams VS Pennywise (Evil Dead VS IT)
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- Join us... for this horrifying episode of Galaxy Grudge Match! When pitted against a cosmic terror from beyond our universe, will Ash Williams live to tell the tale? Or will Pennywise make Ash float like a balloon? Only time will tell, and so will you! Leave a comment below predicting who will walk out of this scenario alive.
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Max is on that Good Guy arc, you love to see it. This might be the greatest character development in Galaxy Video history. I think he made the right call too, as I believe Ash will be gaining the upper hand in this scenario, ironically enough.
I’m just gonna get this oughta the way, I think Ducko is vastly overselling Pennywise’s control of the situation in this scenario. Nobody has ever successfully put down Ash Williams, the same can’t be said for the Dancing Clown however, by less capable individuals that had no prior experience, skills, or weaponry to take down monsters such as IT no less. Any argument Ducko has made against Ash can also be said for the Losers Club. Ash is much easier to take down than Pennywise? Same can be said for the Losers Club. Ash can make mistakes that get him into tricky situations? Same can be said for the losers club. Ash Williams is no different in his shortcomings than any member of the Losers Club, and in advantages he exceeds the Losers Club 10 times over combined. He’s physically superior, packed with an arsenal meant for taking out creatures such as Pennywise, and he won’t be giving Pennywise any power source of fear to draw from. It is going to grow weaker and weaker the more encounters it has with Ash without a valid power source. Backing It into a corner, and leaving It to two options:
1. Drag on the scenario, giving Ash more experience to handle Pennywise and getting Pennywise weaker and weaker the more it drags things out
2. Rush things and lead Ash into a final encounter, which will greatly help Ash’s “Shoot first, ask questions later” mentality. It’ll only help more considering Ash has everything he needs to defeat It from the get go wether it be the Necronomicon, his belief, or just insulting the dumbass no bitches clown 🤡!
Ultimately, while “Evil Alien Clown Entity beats Guy with a Gun” sounds good on paper, unlike Georgie’s Paper Boat, when you look deeper into it’s arguments, it just doesn’t seem to float.
Ash has this in the bag. Old Nicklesmart here can only really hurt people if they’re scared of him, and something tells me that Williams is not gonna be scared by a clown or anything he’s pull, as we see in the intro, it would just make him mad.
Not to mention Dollargenius’ biggest weakness is apparently insulting him. Aside from Freddy, Ash is like one of the biggest guys you can look to for insulting his enemies. And the clown’s ace in the hole only works if they look right into it.
In the end, ol’ Ashy Slashy would just give Quarterintelligent a reason to stop laughing
My favorite villain,CurrencyIQ
Is that moneyintelligent you're talking about?
Ah yes, Goldclever.
Probably gotta go with Ash here. Pennywise doesn’t seem to be the kinda character to rush his way through killing someone, so with his load experience Ash could probably figure out enough about the clown to deal with him (whether through the ritual or other methods.) and while he would take some time, and make a few mistakes, I don’t think these openings are enough for Penny to kill him when considering how much of his tricks he has dealt with. He might be harder to scare or trick then anyone in Derry, and I doubt he would struggle much in a straight-up fight. Nice video.
I say Ash (evil Dead) wins because he defeats Evil Ash and have equipment with the Power Glove was Ash's second prosthetic hand, and was primarily used by Ash during the time he, Pablo, and Kelly Maxwell fought evil together. It was eventually replaced by a cybernetic hand once Ash had awakened in the future ,the red Homelite XL Chainsaw and his trump card the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis (Also known as "The Book of the Dead could suck Pennywise inside
Max is used to backing bad guys, but this time he is backing a bad-ass. And a rightfully legendary one at that. So, fuckit, I’m gonna side with Max on this one- albeit for several reasons.
This is a bout of preparation above all else. Whoever can outwit the other will win this match. But between everything, Ash has several options up his sleeves. Learning about Pennywise from other people and childrene aka the Loser’s Club, obtaining and using the Necronomicon (albeit hoping he doesn’t mispronounce and summon another zombie army), using his expertise and experience to deal with Pennywise’s more animalistic forms, that sort of stuff. If he can handle Freddy Krueger and Jason, then I see that he can handle the clown for at least a good while.
The deadlights or ‘stun people with mouthy light’ is a genuinely horrifying “fuck you” to Ash Williams given how it can basically nullify him and give Pennywise the win. But, and I mean but, I think Ash wouldn’t fall for it the first time. If what Max said about applicated beliefs to his Boomstick can be used, he’s probably gonna close his eyes, aim the gun to the light, and start blastin’. Shit, the Necronomicon, if allowed, could basically do so much more to Pennywise and make him susceptible to anything Ash wants. Again, hinging on him not fucking up pronunciation.
It’s not like I’m talking out of my ass, either. Pennywise’s form here is generally regarded as his weaker form, aka not his true form. So the Necronomicon would genuinely work, since questions about Pennywise’s power have shifted arguments to say that Freddy Krueger (and by extension the magical book) could turn a certain verdict around regarding the power of the combatants (up to debate but still, the point stands). Doesn’t hurt that, in Freddy vs Pennywise by the goated Multiverse Match, it was said that “for one, the Necronomicon doesn’t belong to Freddy, it belongs to Ash Williams.” This means he should be allowed to use it, as it’s HIS book.
Pennywise is truly an admirable force and I feel like he *could* win in this scenario. That clown is definitely a hard opponent if there’s ever been one for Ash, but I feel like putting my bets to Hail to the King, Baby!
I'm firmly siding with Ash in this fight. His various trials throughout his fight against the Evil Dead gives him the experience needed to combat just about anything Pennywise could try to throw at him, including its signature move of using an enemy's fear against them. While Ducko's argument of it taking advantage of Ash's mistakes may sound good on paper, the same could be said for the Losers Club, and we all know how that ended up. Additionally, Pennywise can be weakened by being made to feel small through insults, which Ash will likely be slinging at him from the start.
Belief will also give him a huge advantage against the demon clown. I mean, it made an inhaler of all things an effective weapon against Pennywise, so I doubt it wouldn't work for bullets. Overall, while he likely wouldn't come out of the fight unscathed, in the end, Ash, as the Losers Club has before him, will end Pennywise's reign of terror in Derry.
If both have prep time here, then that is gonna help Pennywise massively, as he's gonna know from the get-go that Ash isn't like previous victims and will know the existence of the Necronomicon. If the Clown manages to get the book then Ash is gonna be in some bad shit, because if regular human beings can harness the book's power then who is to say that Pennywise, a being on a completely different cosmic level, couldn't? I know this isn't a certainty, but chances are never zero, and I think the Clown has what it takes to snatch the book out of Ash's hands.
Sure, Ash has delt with Freddy using the book and Freddy is similar to Pennywise, but the thing is that Freddy is a basically a mortal who was given the powers of a God, so he's still working with a human mind, which Pennywise is clearly above, as I've stated previously and it's something that I imagine both debaters know. Sure, his avatar is physically weaker, but I doubt his intelligence and creativity are lessened as well.
Plus as Ducko said, it's in character for Ash to fuck up a lot, as confident as he may be, which I think Pennywise can take advantage of. And even if Penny did get sent to another dimension by Ash, why couldn't IT's true form just send in another avatar in Ash's world after 27 years? Ash would be elderly by then and I doubt the funny evil clown would have trouble dealing with a silly old man.
Also didn't Freddy finally escape the Deadnite Dimension and led a fucking army of Deadnites lead by no longer undead Jason Voorhees with long hair or some shit? (Cuz, you know, THAT'S what Freddy's about, world domination!!!) If Freddy can do that shit then the Clown's gonna be fine I think.
Sure, Ash is gonna be a tough cookie to crack and the clown is insanely arrogant, but I think the aspects of both being able to plan and Ducko's point about the book gave the clown a great chance of winning here.
Ash will float too haha get it that's what Poggerswise says.
Does Ash have Prince Albert in a Can? Well, he better let him out because I don’t see him standing a chance.
Pennywise has mind reading so anything Ash could plan can be countered. It also means Pennywise would have access to the Necronomica anytime he wants through Ash’s knowledge of it. And even with the experience of facing giant monsters, Pennywise can change shape into anything to change Ash’s expectations. And deadlights. None of what Max explained countered that. Even if the physical body is sent to another dimension, why won’t the real body just send another one in a few years? No matter how tough and skilled Ash is, he’s still a mortal man. Pennywise could kill him at any time if he wants or ignore him and wait it out the next time. And all Ash will do is float.
Forgot to mention, the Loser's Club aren't just kids. They're kids with the blessings of the Space Turtle. Because while its being downplayed as Pennywise taking only 6 kids, there's an entire town of adults and children under his belt.
@@AkumaTh ash is the chosen one that is meant to bring down all evil.
@@demoboigonplayz9512 And with three movies, a TV Series and a ton of comic series including one where he goes "welp, I can't do anything to help against these Marvel Zombies", how has that been going for him?
@@AkumaTh marvel zombies isn’t canon?!????!
The 3 movie Spider-Men vs The 3 movie Batmen. Who wins? Also love your content guys.
I'm choosing Max's side because he know the most about horror movies so I believe he actually knows what he's talking about. For some real reasons, it seems like ducko's main argument revolves around ash screwing up and while that's a possibility, it's not a great thing to hinge your entire argument off of. Ash is strong and resilient enough to survive whatever pennywise throws at him, dealt with enough mind tricks to not fall for it's illusions, and has the strength and firepower to destroy pennywise's physical form. Most damning for pennywise is that he likes to play the long con. He won't instantly try to kill ash as he prefers the taste of fear so he'll try to scare Ash. However, ash has almost no fear left in him and while pennywise does his silly lil tricks, ash will be preparing and learning how to take out pennywise. Even if It trys to kill ash before he can pull off his plan, Ash can easily defeat any form it can take.
Pennywise is pretty penny dumb for thinking he can take ash on. In the end, ash Will-iam be the one to finally stop pennywise. Also what's stopping ash from getting the loser's club to help?
Surprised to see Max on the side of good this time lol
I head that hbo max is making a pennywise tv series which will act as a prequel to it chapter 1. It will be about how bob gary turned into pennywise
Bob Gray was one of Pennywise's forms he did not turn in to IT it was the opposite way around given that IT is an Extra-Dimensional being.
@@rodan9773 so this prequel penywise tv series change it origin story?
@@renamon5658 If that's what their going with then VERY much so.
Just an urban legend
@@williamshafer1996 the prequel tv series is in production. It's gonna be about a military guy coming home from the war and a new loser club.
No horse in this race, interesting scenario though.
Since you guys are somewhat aware of Yiik, I'd wager in a scenario for a potential scenario:
Alex Eggleston (YIIK) vs Xavier Renegade Angel (XRA)
This can be a fight, but more entertaining could be a race to complete a trip to get groceries in time for the Eggleston household.
A matchup with the potential to ask oneself "What doth going on?"
I'm gonna go with Ash on this one! I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said. I agree with Max and all the comments on the side of Ash. Also the drawings of you two as Ash and Pennywise look AWESOME!
After hearing all the arguments, I think Ash would win.
With his experience dealing with similar beings, his Necronomicon to transport him to other places, and how Ash has seen so much shit that Pennywise's fear powers wouldn't work.
I know this isn't many, but it's my honest opinion.
Ash has this in the bag. He doesn't really fear anything and would mostly be pissed off from pennywise. He has a much more impressive arsenal, he is a lot more intelligent and experienced than anyone pennywise has struggled with, and ash's necronomicon can easily destroy or at least badly harm pennywise. Really the only trouble ash will have is pennywise's true form but I don't think that's standard, plus the necronomican can find a way to take down the true form of pennywise (I think?). Also this will go even worse for pennywise when ash starts to gather people to help him fight the poor clown. Sorry pennywise but it looks like your child killing days are over
Ok, this is an interesting match up. I see a lot of people on Ash's side and I have to say I am one of them. It has been stated multiple times in the novel and in the movies that the only way to weaken and beat pennywise is to have belief in one's self and bravery which I believe Ash has plenty of, I'd say that Ash is gonna beat Pennywise's physical form because as we know IT´s real form is not the clown, it's something else in the macroverse (kind of like a darksied type deal if you think about it) either way I think Ash does have what it takes to beat the clown, while Pennywise's mindtricks and illusions might be something that give Ash some trouble it really isn't something he can't handle. Ultimatly I think the last nail in Penny's coffin will be his arrogance and Ash's adaptability, Ash isn't your regular horror movie protagonist, he is just as batshit crazy as the monsters he faces, and that is enough to kick the clown to the curb since he has never seen anyone like Ash before.
Have to give it to the Ronald Mac Donald’s evil cousin. Here’s why.
First of all while max said that Ash is nothing like pennnywise faced I do not agree with this statement. Remember Pennywise also was murdering across the universe where he probably faced and killed an armed up alien with deadlier arsenal than most of William’s toys. He can also shapeshift into something from any of those planets, into something incomprehensible, perhaps a creature like the bird box. With that Ash would have a harder time fighting something he never seen before.
Second of all Pennywise mind reading. It is the biggest thorn on Ash’s side. He can know any of Ash’s plans ahead of time and prepare for any of it. And while Pennywise may not use the democr… I don’t how to say it so I will just say demon book, he can take away it from Ash when he will find out that it can be a danger to him. Let him just toy around with Ash’s beliefs and shapeshift into a tiny pen to write wrong words on the demon book.Or even mind control the people of Derry and make them attack Ash and the group. They might punch a man’s head off but what about when a child is running at them?
In the end Ash’s final scream will sound like a groovy music to the Redrum Clown
A very very difficult scenario to figure out, and the Nature of Pennywise's True Form doesn't seem to be accounted for here so I won't mention it, regardless even without it, Ash in the end is gonna develop Coulrophobia even beyond the afterlife.
Ash has no counters to alot of Penny's powers, the biggest one actually being Mind Reading. He'll know his entire arsenal just by peeping into his mind, he'll know about all the monsters he has faced, his trauma, his friends, his experiences, his flaws, and most importantly his arsenal. This 100% includes the Necronomicon, and I don't know why Max thinks Penny getting his hands on the Necronomicon = Pennywise admitting defeat, that isn't nessessarily true. If getting his hands on the book means he can screw with Ash, why wouldn't he take advantage of his most powerful tool, something ash would absolutely be concerned about losing, and why wanting to gain more power = admitting what you have isn't enough, it sounds like anything anyone would wanna do, not having to resort to admitting defeat.
Ultimately ash has an amazing arsenal and if the circumstances align for him, he can defeat pennywise, but that is the issue. Ash is human, a tough ass human but one prone to making mistakes, one prone to messing up, just like the rest of us, he always has to face Trial-And-Error. How many mistakes must he have to make to finally get it right before Penny can strike at an opening, especially with Penny being able to shake things up and change a win condition at will, one being messing with Ash's mind when trying to read the Necronomicon and make him misread a word on accident for example. I can admit ash can find a way to beat pennywise, but the odds are far to small, and in the end, just like the rest, he'll float too. He'll float too. he'll float too. HE'LL FLOAT TOO. HE'LL FLOAT TOO. HE'LL FLOAT TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Honestly I think Ashe has advantage over Pennywise in the first place. One reason is because Pennywise's power is based on fear. Ashe has seen far too much to even be afraid of what Pennywise is. He'd just mock him. Probably tell him how ugly he was. And IT would probably shrink down to a skinny old thing before Ashe saws his head off. Now I don't think this would kill IT. But Ashe has dealt with things he couldn't kill normally as well. So it's nothing new to him. Theres really no power that IT could have that Ashe would really be that afraid of. The man has seen some sht. He'd just consider IT " Tuesday."
IT ( This is my Balloon it Floats ).
Ash ( And this is my BOOM STICK ).
IT ( What dose it d..).
BANG.
Ash ( It goes Boom Baby ).
Lol.
Sorry Max, hate to continue your losing streak, but I think Pennywise will take this one.
Now Ash has dealt with a lot of zombies, spirits and other paranormal entities, but he's never dealt with anything like Pennywise, or even It's true form. Sure, he's dealt with Freddy Kreuger, but as you two have shown in Multiverse Match, Pennywise is on a whole new level compared to Freddy. Besides the stomp-level power gap, what else does this clown have that can help him defeat the chainsaw handed, Boomstick wielding hero? Well, if Ash were to try to use any of his techniques, he would most likely be fighting an avatar or Pennywise could just teleport away from him. He could also capitalize on Ash's mistakes and turn them into his worst nightmare. He could also open up Ash's past horrors in order to drive him insane and get in close enough to use the deadlights to put Ash down for the count. But what about Ash's team? It took many people to take down Pennywise. He could just split them all up and take them down one by one. If the team loses a member after getting back together, Pennywise can play mind games with them by assuming the form of the missing member to really drive them crazy. If they try to use the ritual of Chud, Ash would most likely mess up, leaving Pennywise to once again capitalize on his mistake, or any other mistakes Ash makes during the fight.
In the end, the man with the chainsaw hand will become an Ash Williams in a can, and it would be hard to get the poor guy out.
(Insert Tim Curry Laughing here.)
Well this match is pretty Groovy!
So based on how yall laid out your arguments its seems all official materials are on the table since the movies, books, shows, and games were all mentioned. So with that in mind I think this may actually be in Ash's favor. Max already did a good job laying out how Ash could wound and kill IT via believing, and that idea is only amplified thanks to the fact that (in the movie atleast) IT has to conform to the form he takes, so if Ash shoots IT in his clown form or in the form of a deadite...well than its lights out. However the main crutch of my argument actually comes from Dead By Daylight. Since max used the comic crossovers for his debate it only feels fair to allow DBD to be used. In that game Ash just like the other playable survivors shows the ability to escape and break out of insanity, paranoia, and immense fear inflicted by various sources like viruses, ghostly abilities, and more. So with those skills he may be more than capable of beating out pennywises tricks and leaving him powerless and exposed to a Boomstick shot to the head!
If i'd have to go with someone here, it would be Pennywise.
The main argument that is put on-table is that "Since Ash won't fear Pennywise, his powers won't affect him anyways", but if we're considering both movies, we've seen that it kind of doesn't matter if you believe you can kill him, in the end, you can't. Pennywise's powers can reach a limit where he actually has to fight, and he doesn't seems to be all that agile, but even then, it's also based on a break of expectation, that's pretty much what the second movie represents.
Let's do a little recap: IT 1 would present us a physical form of something like a phobia, it haunts you around the places you pass by and will break your mind by just showing you mere things that remind you of that fear, this is what Pennywise do with the children and it's results is what makes him stronger.
In IT 2, that is also a thing, the difference here is that Pennywise is MUCH more physical than before, other than the fact that he LITERALLY kills one of The Losers, he's also powerful enough to completely destroy them, and even when shown that he was damaged, in the end, it did nothing, the one who was able to overcome fear itself was still executed in a brutal, fast way.
Maybe Ash's punchlines might threaten our big McDonald's tribute, but even then, i really don't think Pennywise would fall for them, reason is: Pennywise's first appearences are to basically figure out the persona of the victim, he dives into your fears, lookalikes, parents, memories; with all this stuff, Pennywise probably wouldn't be outmatched by Ash's insane composure, that is because he would probably already know and would have a plan to try to avoid Ash's lack of fear.
Obviously Ash is completely different from all the types of enemies Pennywise has faced before, but he has been doing this for so long that it seems more likely for him to get a win than Ash, sadly.
OK, for my prediction, I gotta shop smart and choose S-mart. My main reason is that Pennywises power solely relies on his victims fear. Without fear, he loses power and can be killed by baseball bats. Considering his experience with so many eldrich horrors and sheer cockyness, Ashley won't be easy to spook. Then Ash just shoots him and its over for IT.
This is definitely a fun debate to say the least and while Ducko did make a couple of solid arguments for Pennywise.
I’m gonna have to go for Ash this time, not just for his arsenal, but the experience he has in fighting weird shit like this could definitely give him the upper hand, and while yes he does admittedly screw up quite a bit, he's really never been put down severely by his enemies before, plus you could kind of compare him to the losers club in a way with Pennywise putting him through really freaky and rough situations not unlike the losers club but only way more powerful especially when it comes to fighting physically.
And while yes there is a solid chance Pennywise could have a chance to win via the prep time element in the scenario, plus the possibility of Pennywise getting that Necronomicon, But I’m thinking our favourite Deadite Hunter and S-Mart employee has a bit more of a higher set of chances of pulling through in the end.
This is super close, but it all comes down to this
1)What fear can Pennywise use to exploit
2)What can Ash use against Pennywise
3)what will work on who
1) Pennywise has pretty little to work with. If he tries to use Ash's past against him, it'll most likely just piss him off. Ash is pretty mentally unstable if you ask me, and anything pennywise throws at him will only make Ash laugh. Pennywise feasts on fear and the reason why Pennywise was strong was because the Losers Club we're afraid. As kids they had to deal with a monster and have to gain the courage to overcome him, as adults the traumatic experience resurfaced and made them scared of Pennywise again. Ash has no reason to fear the clown, nor would he let the clown get the best of him.
2) You already said what Ash brings to the table, now the Kandarian Dagger would in fact work on Pennywise one way or another. It could either kill Pennywise by absorbing his soul or could absorb the souls from the deadlights. Yes Pennywise has entrapped souls within him and I think that if Ash stabs him with the dagger the Pennywise, in simple terms would get his stomach pumped and be weakened. This gives Ash a better chance at winning
3) Fear might not work on Ash and will either amuse him or piss him off, Pennywise can only eat his prey if they fear him and if they don't then he'll back off. Now give that to a broken man with a gun, magic, chainsaw, and a Groovy personality, then Pennywise would most definitely lose
Ash definitely has this over Pennywise. The best Pennywise has in store is the Deadlights to incapacitate Ash. But guess what? Ash has shown time and time again that he has the literal willpower to fight off such mind control and manipulation. In Evil Dead 2, Ash literally un-possessed himself from a Deadite through sheer willpower. In Ash VS Evil Dead Season 1, Ash took on Eligos in the mindscape and proved his willpower stronger than the demons', while on an acid trip in an area that Eligos had full advantage over and was simultaneously fighting him off in the real world without even realizing it. If it weren't for Pablo stopping Ash from choking Kelly, it's entirely feasible that Ash would've killed Elios in Kelly's body. In Season 2 of Ash VS Evil Dead, he was able to trick Baal; a demon with over more than a millennium of experiences twice. Even getting the drop on Baal by pretending he was beaten only to turn the table. Twice. Plus, even if Pennywise brought out all of Ash's fears, Ash has enough experience to blow those illusions away with his Boomstick and ask "So your plan is to make me face everything I already conquered? I see a few flaws in your logic, Wise-Guy."
Okay time to argue for why I think Ash will stop Pennywise from clowning around. First off Pennywise’s arrogance is going to be a huge detriment here. Pennywise of course thinks really high of himself and against someone as skilled as Ash that’s going to be really bad especially since he’s dealt with supernatural stuff before even someone who’s powers is pretty similar to Pennywise in the form of Freddy. Now sure Pennywise’s illusions and mind reading is usually hell to deal with and this is going to be far from easy but when Ash is completely brave and sees Pennywise as small Pennywise is screwed if kids can kick his ass when their brave around him also I could see Ash pulling off the ritual of chud so ye I think Pennywise will be some a evil dead.
I've been wondering if you would be interested in some kind of collab?
I'm putting all of my money on Ashley J Williams, Number One: he has survived through the amounts of terror that no living man could actually survive, Two: he has fought in countless of demons and deadites even the supposedly Dark Ones, and Three: Necronomicon Ex Mortis; one of the most powerful ancient book that can be Kandarian Demons fear of.
Pennywise is rough but he's not as good as ash..
Mainly because pennywise's weaknesses can prove to be his downfall
Meanwhile ash can take advantage of the weaknesses if he tries hard enough!
So literally this is an unfair matchup
Pennywise: Look, a bloody balloon! 🩸🎈
Ash: Look, a fist!✊
*Punches Pennywise and knocks him out*
🤜🤡😵
Ash: F_ckin clowns..🙄
I know this is a Serious moment,
But someone had to do this joke.
a Halloween episode in July? groovy
Here’s a weird idea for a episode imp vs the seven
Tbh, Ash wins easily. Pennywise is weak to bravery, while Ash is really brave. Ash also has the abilities to outright yonk him to a different dimension, which Pennywise couldn't escape. Sorry Pennywise, but I guess you weren't groovy enough to win this.
Ash has an inherent advantage with his awesome solar system busting power thanks to scaling to Spider-Man (known planet buster).
Ok i’m all seriousness, if I’m not mistaken The Necronomicon states that Ash, being the chosen one, has an innate advantage over evil creatures so Pennywise is very much screwed. I also believe that while The Deadlights will be a big issue for Ash he has the ability to fight back against it, Ash is the only character in Evil Dead canon who was able to break out of Deadite control on his own and he’s done it twice, so while it will definitely be a big issue for him I don’t think it would be some ace in the hole. I also believe we need to look at Ash’s friends as well since he could bring them to help him out, Pablo has a deep connection to The Necronomicon and has been able to see through its eyes so if Pennywise does somehow grab the book they would definitely be able to find out where Pennywise is and where he’s keeping it and Kelly is definitely not going down without a fight and will throw everything she has at Pennywise in an attempt to help Ash. Ash is definitely fighting an uphill battle here and Pennywise is gonna get a good few shots in but I believe that Ash will eventually come out on top, boomstick in hand and chin to the sky as Pennywise is left licking his wounds until Ash blows his head off when he eventually goes looking for him
Ok so ash has this to start this is going to be ash solo because if he leaves dairy he will forget about pennywise all together so all of pennywise's abilities
ash has fought before such as teleportation and shape shifting and if ash believes his weapon can kill IT then
They can and ash has fought Freddy Kruger while he had the same amount or more power as pennywise and defeated him and ash is a lot better with the necronomicon then he used to be so he will remember the words and the kandarian dagger can suck out souls so it is possible that it will take the dead lights away from pennywise so overall Pennywise might be bad but he’s no match for the guy with the gun
In my opinion I think Ash wins and since you guys both talk about if ash had his teammates or not I will too, yes pennywise could pull fear from Pablo or Kelly since they have loss important people in their life but Ash could hop into their hallucinations and help them like in chapter 2 where Beverly helped Ben, and while the ritual would be harder because Pablo and Kelly might have not let go of their trauma. But as base form all of them are mostly equally skilled and would probably believe in their weapons working, while Pablo or Kelly might get nervous and maybe scared if their weapons don't work but ash could still be the backbone of the team with holding the most weapons and skill, it would take time but they could do it. Alone ash has already gotten over the whole murdering his girlfriend, sister and friends thing so pennywise isn't going to be pulling from his emotions and Ashe's wide arsenal of weapons and use to dealing with entities like pennywise, not to mention Pennywise's lack of fighting skills or abilities that Ash isn't use too and with the fact Ash would believe his weapons would work and the soul dagger might kill Pennywise as it could maybe directly attack his true form but if that doesn't work taking him to another dimension with with the necronomicon into a massive reality filled with bloodthirsty creatures aka the deadites would massively hinder Pennywise, so yeah with or without help Ash would win.
I think the ash definitely takes it in every single regard ash is obviously the better fighter and he’s dealt with demons like Pennywise Plus Ash has a lot of willpower and belief and courage even to the extent that he beat Freddy and Jason
I mean Pennywise gets physically bullied by little kids in a lot of his fights. Ash has bullied incredibly capable and threatening deadites. He can easily just shoot pennywise or just saw him down.
Rooting for Ash Williams but betting on Pennywise, because while Ash may have the more experience in fighting demons and monsters, great variety of weapons, might be smarter than him, has better willpower, can be Planet level With the Necronomicon (With the power of the Necronomicon he was able to alter the reality of the world, managing to return it to normal) like the Character Stats website said, he could be immune to his fear powers due to he has face them head on and surprisingly got use to these kinds of things, has the better physically stats then Pennywise's 🤡 avatar & his weapons could damage him, But Pennywise way more powerful & has better and stronger hax and forms, he's a eater of worlds and the eternal child and a reality warper too, Sure the Deadlights may not work not on him, is shown to be acceptable to damage, but he has some other ways to drive him insane/nuts thanks to his abilities and powers, he can create pocket dimensions within the fabric of reality that he can send him to, can read his mind and he could use mind control on Ash & the Character Stats website says he's Outerverse level (Exists outside The Dark Tower, a High 1-B construct, and is beyond the void that Maturin resides in. Said void lacks direction\physicality and is above the concept of time and the multiverse's existence. Is a spider beyond the concept of space and time. Is a Demon Elemental and should scale above The Guardians, which exist in an Outerversal realm that him and the other Demon Elementals also exist far beyond. Is far above the platonic concepts that appear in The Talisman), It's powers can bypass conventional durability.
Overall While I do agreed with Max & Ducko's debate and statements and While Ash has fought Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees before, he's never fought anyone like Pennywise. I think Pennywise has what it takes to make Ash Williams float like a 🎈 and not in a good way.
Pennywise? Never heard of her
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Pls show this thank you but my argument who I’m saying has a better chance to win it’s ash id actually give pennywise experience has he has been around way longer but it’s not big of a difference ash in dead by daylight has fought simular aged beings like pyramid head or demegorgan two ash is smarter because while ash should be clinically insane like the bully’s but there is a difference ash has went through hell and back literally also since ash fought both fready and Jason and you know what they share in common? DEMONS also even if you didn’t count that ash necronomicom has a really good chance of working because even though it is implied pennywise could summon dead children in it chapter one deadites are stronger and how would pennywise counter them point being he can’t maybe pennywise could damage them so bad they can’t fight but I’m actually of the opinion possessing pennywise wouldn’t work because you know outervirsal being but even then still ash could just summon a army of deadites hide and watch pennywise try and fight them off but even somehow pennywise destroyed them so bad they can’t fight well who says ash just had the deadites he could send pennywise back in time to King Arthur and they would most likely know how to hurt pennywise because ash trained them to have weapons in the future so even if ash failed and pennywise barley won how would he do against an army of ash and a even more skilled mage than ash and back to that dead by daylight thing considering how ash could survive pyramid head a same outversal being like pennywise who says ash have trouble so in all after getting help from demons knights kings who’s triumphant the real king so hail to the king or prepare to taste his boom stick
I think Ash should take this, I mean he has experience taking on legendary Pokemon who could surpass and defeat pennywise in power meaning that... I'm just kidding ( About the Pokemon stuff not Ash winning ). First off Ash has fought against opponents like it, to elaborate powerful slashers and mind manipulators where as pennywise only fights young kids, and while they are brave kids they wouldn't match Ash, Pablo and Kelly. Next in terms of Ash needing prep time to defeat pennywise, I don't think that matters Ash is constantly thrown into situations where he has no idea whats going on, where as pennywise is always defeated when he loses control, something I think Ash has the power ,arsenal and skills to pull it off in fact it's kind of his thing. (Haha funny death battle reference i'm so funny)