Vanguard vs Honda?
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I run both of these motors on my trailer. I run my vanguard 95 percent of the time. I have zero complaints on my vanguard. I have my Honda as a backup have yet to need it as a backup and have used both on larger jobs. Love all the content you put out. Thanks for all the knowledge and advice you give e. Much appreciated.
Thanks Tim!
You can't use a honda as a backup. If the motor sets for more than 2 weeks or so, it won't start, due to the pilot jet being clogged with bad fuel.
@@jeffpiatt3879 who said its got fuel init
I recently received an update on my Southeast trailer build informing me about the Honda supply shortage. I'll be the first to admit, when I hear replacing a Honda with Briggs style motor, I was immediately concerned. I did alot of research and digging into to the specs of these motors and given the timing of availability, I went with the vanguard. Even though I studied up on these, I do appreciate this post. Not only did it ease my remaining concerns but it speaks for it self when it comes to Southeast on how professional you guys are.
You saw a potential concern, knew there were many customers waiting on their builds with the same mindset I had... yet, you took the time and effort to do your best to make your customers feel comfortable.. Thank you, can't wait to see our new build!
Thank you !
We do our best to be professional about things and to always do right by our customers
Nice video guys. Thanks for the info this helps a lot!
Looking at one of either for a mud boat. This video sealed the deal on which I'm going with. Thank you gents
Thanks for the video Coty! Very happy my trailer came with the 23 hp B&S. Just reading the owners manual getting ready to warsh
Great video! I'm convinced.
I have run both of these engines or ones very similar to it for years doing various types of work. Truly believe you cannot go wrong with either. I have just subscribed to your channel in hopes to get you closer to that mark that you were looking for in subscribers. Truly enjoy all the content. I have learned a lot over the time watching your videos and look forward to getting my soft wash/pressure wash business running here in the Northeast this spring.
Hoping to earn enough money to buy one of your mini skids to put on the back of my Tacoma. Pressure wash/soft wash unit.
Keep the content coming. Your knowledge and positivity is great for the washing community.
I didn't hear about this. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much Cody for posting this. Saw it yesterday as a live video but was taken down by the time I got off work. I was disappointed I missed it. Great comparison of these two. Did not know these differences. Now give me my Honda! 🤣😂 Joking. Vanguards are certainly great as well. Good luck with 25k subs. Probably won’t take much longer. Take care.
Yessir!
My audio was janky but I think we got everything this time
We have a 15 year old Vanguard on one of our rigs (enclosed trailer). Runs like a dream.
Is 5/8” SH hoses better than 1/2”? I was told that we have a better flow with 5/8”.
Yup… was just literally having this convo last week with my local shop here in Raleigh. Probably going end up adding a vanguard myself with the supply chain woes. Great info bro per usual 🤩
You know it!
I have a vanguard 5 hp about 6 months old all of a sudden won't start not getting spark. Change spark plug, still not getting spark. It does have a kill button which I noticed one wire came disconnected. Would that cause it not to start?????
Very helpful!!!
Get that oil cap sorted out. I love my vanguard but i will always fill oil at the bottom after struggling putting the oil cap on the rocker cover. It seems easy ti cross thread.
can you design a single soft and pressure skid for a 2022 ford maverick so i dont have to buy a new truck?
the ford maverick is a new truck lol
That OTW holster is nice bro .
I have a Honda Engine on my pressure washer that is 21 years old and still getting it done. Cranks first pull. I have a Vanguard on my hot water rig that is about 17-18 years old and it's still getting the job done. If you take care of them, they will last.
That’s right!
Both great options
250 hours and counting on my Vanguard, haven't had a single issue. Super simple to do maintenance on too.
I love it!
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Yes
What about kohler?
Coty, do you like belt drives or gear drive better?
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I have been running Honda motors like them very much. I have heard of vanguard motors but not familiar with them. But if they are good enough for southeast they would be good for me.
I do like the vanguards. I had a gx390 Honda that ate its rings at 460hrs and burned a massive amount of oil so replaced with a 18hp V twin thats up to 2400hrs with only the key switch getting replaced. I put a new set of rings in the honda with the cylinder still like new so not sure what happened there. At the time they didnt have the 14hp single cylinder so that will replace the v twin that is a little overkill for a 3" water pump
Cocl video. Honda has such a monopoly on 1 cylinder engines that eventually evryone else just made compatible engines because so many tools are set up for Honda engines form factor from the factory. Nice to see they added some quality of life improvements to differentiate themselves.
Hondas probably more likely to have parts stocked at the local pressure washing store, but these things rarely go down.
Thank you for your videos. I've been watching and learning for almost a year. I want to get started soft washing, but still can't afford to. If you want another plus for the Vanguard motor. I live in California. Thanks to all the epa restraints I can't buy a pressure washer with a honda motor delivered legally in California. The Vanguard motors are carb compliant and are readily and legally delivered in California.
Good point!
Not really sure how you can leave the key ON with the Honda because you need to turn the engine off with the key switch.
All I've ran is the predator engine from Harbor Freight and it's been a great engine.
Anyone else? There's a guy on here that's running 2 ( 1 for pressure, 1 for soft ). If they run good and last for less $$$ then why not.
I got the new 459cc 15.8hp predator great engine so far but don't have many hours on it it to say how good it is.
@@SteveZ919 I would get the new 459cc predator over the 420cc predator cause the the pressurized oiling system
They're Honda clones, they will run well anyway since they are typically based off of the Honda GX platform. I know this because I have at least two Honda clone engines. One is a large MTD Powermore 420cc on a Cub Cadet snow blower, another 13 hp is on a Chinese import 5.5 kW generator and the last one is based off of the GX200 at 208cc not powering anything at the moment, but still runs really well.
Lol im a poor Alabama boy and run a 18hp Duromax with a 6.8 gpm lol
Why don't you use more belt drive?
We prefer gear driven units.
Easier to service on our skids and very robust
I used a briggs and stratton vanguard pressure washer for the first time yesterday, I usually use Honda gx390...the briggs engine runs so.much smoother and quiter..and starts easier..
FEB 2nd and let’s goooo ,bring on the warm weather and new season 💯 🙌
Keep Up The Grind Coty,I’ve got both and they both serve their purposes and work great 👍
I thought belt drive is a need for a buffer tank?
You thought wrong LOL
The belt itself has no magic ability to pull water
It’s the reduction of RPM that is accomplished with the belt pulley system that allows the pump to create a better suction and prime itself from a tank source.
This same effect can be accomplished via a gear box system.
Belt drive pressure washers have been around Longer than the gearbox style units, so that is why a lot of guys only know about belt drive.
@@southeastsoftwash4020 more research for me
@@jayrose9463 I personally prefer gear drive
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I would be perfectly happy with a vanguard on my Mini Max Pro. Especially if it speeds up delivery time. 😆
The Honda 390 is actually only 11.7 hp! So there’s a huge pro for the vanguard it’s 2.3 more hp.
When Shawn emailed me I was like shit?! And found out through some searching and asking questions vanguards not bad at all
Yea they really solid.
Honda is just got a great reputation
Honda GX390 actual HP is 11.8. Check out the predators too! I think they're releasing a new model. To me Vanguards appear cheap, Kohler command pro engines would be a personal equal to Honda and is what I run.
I have the predator 459cc 15.8hp engine. only have 20hrs on it so far
I like Kohler's Command Pro line. I've had a couple older Command engines. One on an old New Holland garden tractor that I sold and another on one of my current Cub Cadet Series 2000 tractor. It runs without much issue unlike the Vanguard on my other Series 2000. My brother also has one on a go cart that we spent time having to re-assemble because the previous owner was...well, I don't know what they were trying to do but it required the purchase of a lot of fasteners (bolt and nuts) to get all of the covers back on. The engine runs like a top.
Oh shoot! I think I want a Vanguard now! Lol. JK, bro! I can’t wait to get my trailer with whichever motor it has on it!
Amen!
I kinda like the vanguard myself now that I’ve looked at both more in depth
so sorry to here this. iv seen almost all his video'sRIPJohn from TLC PRO WASH
People love honda because it reasonable price and easy find parts..
The vanguard is very expensive engine..
In my country Philippines fishermans used Honda because durable and simplicity,power,and balance ❤️🙏
Well, looking at engine age, I have had Honda G and GX engines that have always started first pull, and some (like the Honda flat head G engines) are older than me, roughly 40 or more years old. I've had Briggs engines all along and they seem to require more maintenance or attention than the Hondas. Even the Daihatsu of Toyota Group-made Briggs Vanguard on one of my riders seems temperamental. Last year I added two Honda GX160 class engines to my fleet of equipment, one that came on a Honda HRC216HXC lawn mower and the other as a replacement engine on a Toro 21" snow blower. I would rather go Kohler Command Pro than Vanguard. That would be the American engine of choice for me, not Briggs.
2 great machines I would also love to see a video on a Kohler that is equally comparable to these machines…. In the carpet cleaning industry that’s all they use in Truck mount builds is Kohler engines we need to have more engine options other than Honda … imo
Yea they solid too. I like kohler
I’ve ran Kohler for 30yrs. My personal preference would be
1: Kohler
2: B&S Vanguard
3: Honda
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Always good when you guy explain stuff for everyone. Another great video. Do me a favor and change my email in your system.
The vanguards pumps are cheap made by mazoni the late honda gx390’s have the interpump interpump have been the staple for many years Briggs’s used to run interpump but vanguard now use mazoni seems vanguard are using cheaper parts
Vanguard is way better then Koehler lol
Vanguard is pretty solid
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Walked into my local soft wash store just for a hose and seen the prices lately wow $$$$$$$
glad I bought my trailer years ago
@@MrDgonzo77 supply & demand
Vanguard was always a better motor. Honda is popular because they spend millions on advertising but they are a copy motor. Yamaha invented the overhead valve engine and was the first to use a float carburetor. Honda just copied Yamaha. The Vanguard motor is built way better on the inside then a Honda. I avoid Hondas if their is a optional Vanguard or Kawasaki
Honda is the best engine in the Philippines fishermans love honda for it durability, reasonable price,and power..even it 390 displacement..
Unlike vanguard it so expensive.. difficult to find parts when trouble..
@@christianmunez5688 We are not in the Philippines here and Vanguard parts are at every small engine place. Honda on the other hand is not so easy to find parts for and they are cheaper to buy for a good reason. In Vanguards case you get what you pay for and Honda is a lower grade motor then the Vanguard
Will never purchase another Honda power product. The carbs are horribly prone to clogging from bad fuel. If you fire the thing up every day, there is a chance it will keep running. If you go a week or more, you will be buying a new carb, since cleaning the old one to make it run right, again, is nearly impossible. The Briggs products don't have this issue.
I like the vanguard better…. As a mechanic maintenance point of view the vanguard will be easier for none mechanics ….
Great video thanks guys
Vànguard has ethicał business behavior they are one of the big companies that say you will own nothing añd be happy also on world depopulatioñ and their owner information is not public so I have a feeling blaçkrock is behind them, I’m sure they are good but it doesn’t matter when they are rotten so it’s good to stay away from
Vanguard engines and s not the same as vanguard you are talking about
@@southeastsoftwash4020 yes they are is against the law to have the same company name, this is why they don’t want educated citizens