I've been playing for almost 3months now, and my opinion is hands down the MVP/axiom soft neutron Envy..... definitely an amazingggggggggg throwing putter
The Plasma Envy has been my throwing putter for a year. You get a little more glide out of it than in any other plastic. I just swapped it out of my bag tho for a Kastaplast Reko X and the Reko replaced my Proxy. Never thought I would unbag the Envy/Proxy combo.
I love the Axiom Proxy. First disc I ever bought after my starter pack, don't think it will ever leave the bag. Feels amazing in the hand and super easy to put a light touch on
If you like the proxy u should really try the envy and the atom! They all come from the same mold but fly a little different! Proxy-understable, atom-very straight and envy-stable/overstable, but they all feel the same in the hand! Just letting ya no
Just picked up two different proxies. I have a putter addiction, really love these 100ft in. I use em to bash chains mostly in circle one but a gentle release and these are like darts. Don't think these will leave my bag
i wonder where is Pa3 love, comes in variety of plastics and straight to reliable fade at end and it can go whit you from start to end of time atleast in 400g plastic.
i bag an electron hard and two eclipse 2.0 envys, one new one and one i've beat in. The electron has no fade, and can be understable when thrown hard, the beat in eclipse has a straight flight and a slight fade at the end, while the new one is a little overstable and great for shaping shots. fyi, this when throwing distances about 230 feet
Loving my Axiom Proxy Plasma, too (THE go-to), but will give my Envy a little more time. People seem to love the DM P2, but they keep coming off my release to the right (RHBH) compared to all my other putters. They have a pretty high dome, but I'm sure it's just my technique (or lack of). Also love my DM Sensei Active Premium.
Thank you for the review👍 And becauseSwanky feels 70-ish to me it be cool if you guys wore a 70s style T-shirt in one of your videos ; better yet maybe you can do a review of discs from the 70s😁😉
My brother scored a 120 ft throw-in birdie with the Sensei back in May. Ever since then he's been putting with it even though it is severely beat in. But it flies absolutely straight when I gave it a whirl. Definitely a good beginner putter!
If u pitch putt like Ken Climo or kinda Ricky then a beat in putter is better in my opinion. Alot of the time the putter comes out a little wobbly and with it beat in it helps straighten it out and will begin to fly straight. It also gives u more room to be off alittle on your putt, if u putt like Simon or Eagle then u want it brand new like cause u have to be dead on with that style putt
@@seymourglass26 I've been playing since late 90s and I never understood how/why people putt with rock hard putters, it always seemed to me that you got alot more putts that would spit out and they were slippery for the chains to grab. I've always putted with the SS Wizards and I've had them hit front cage and flop in. And with soft putters I always got that nice thumb dent so the putter was always in the same position in my hand
I started with the prime burst Judge, and soon made the small adjustment to the classic blend Emac Judge. My fingers feel more comfortable with the beading at the bottom, and I like the rubbery plastic feel. which I think is a good thing to teach beginners. Finding a disc they like, and not being afraid to experiment with blends and styles to really find that sweet spot.
I love my tournament x Matt Orum Maiden! I would recommend the maiden for both beginners and advanced players. It is dead straight with a ton of glide, but still has enough stability to not turn over!
As much as I love the Envy, I think the Proxy is the better beginner choice. I bag 2 of both and love throwing both. The Proxy is just straighter for a beginner. The Envy definitely goes farther for me and tends to have better distance control.
I'm really surprised that the luna didn't make the list here. It's probably the most glidey putter out there and is pretty understable in base plastic. Or instead of the fierce you can put the deputy because... well it's the fierce without the pierce name
I think the issue is the Luna is it’s a little less beginner friendly than the fierce and also very expensive due to the McBeth name. It looks like they tried to limit the list to one putter brand max on the list.
Would love to see yall to a review of the viking discs line. Currently my favorite line and have every one of they're discs in my bag at the moment. All are great, definitely worth a review.
I just got a sensei last week. But I bad a soft nomad and a hard envy. But honestly I find myself putting mostly with my pig. It’s such a versatile disc. I probably throw that pig twice as much as anything else in my bag Just got a Glyph the other day. Haven’t tried it yet. It’s a weird one. And of course everyone should have a glitch in their bag. It’s just such a fun disc to warm up with and with no wind it’s lights out from anything under 100 feet.
They stop on a dime. They are super-hard to forehand and their glide is almost non-existent. If you can figure out the grip, they have their place. The Koi (putter) and Binx (fairway driver) aren't quite as floppy or overstable as the Interceptor (mid), but they're all on the overstable side.
Polecat..ftw! Envy is almost identical to the Luna and both are so good. Personally I use the Nomad. I have thrown an ace with the Proxy at around 175ft as well. Pretty much just find what works for you.
@@frederikvoerts I used only the judge for year and switched to the nomad very similar profile. Judge is heavy in the middle and the nomad is heavy in the rim with just a little more glide and grip for me. I spin putt with a little Annie.
I love the infinite discs alpaca (Eric Oakley run) and tomb. Alpaca is a deep rim and tomb is shallow, they have relatively the same flight with the exception of the tomb being a little faster. They are basically glidyer sensei's and you can really crank some power on both.
I have a old very beat up random disc from discmania I dont have a clue what it is but its the best disc for my backhand for 60m and less, it has almost no faid and whit in 60 m dead straight, but im annoied when it becomes too beat up
I've had an Opto Pure in my bag for close to 10 years. I would dive into the arctic ocean to save it. If you beat one in, you will never, EVER need another throwing putter.
Legacy Clutch, more specifically the Steve Rico Cobra Strike is stupid straight. Gets frustrating sometimes that there is no fade unless you try to turn it and then it fades back to straight.
I started playing back in 96' and for me it was difficult to throw a putter for any kind of distance, it was like throwing an Ultra Star. I now can only throw a putter like 200' accurately or good enough. I remember watching Simon at the 2014 Rochester flying disc open and he was just crushing putters and i was amazed. Go watch the final round, I believe it was McFlySoHigh or something like that or just search the 40th Rochester flying disc open final round. They were so excited about the DGLO running there 40th tournament and Rochester had there's in 2014, now they would be on 48th annual. Crazy
I throw both the envy and the atom, they have the same core but the atom is a laser. Honorable mention to clash disk butter and popcorn, they are like catch disc. Super soft landing, I have to remind myself that it's not going to fade back to basket even on a baby hyzer, the best way to throw them is to not even think about it just rip it
I have not tried the envy but based on discs made by the MVP company including Axiom they seem to be more over stable in comparison to the majority of other manufacturers. I haven’t checked out the stats on the disc but the majority of discs made by MVP are not as tall and therefore more usable for smaller hands.
Sensei I s a great choice before it starts to turn due to wear or more torque. I will point out that according to my knowledge the sensei is made by Yikun which I believe their discs are. Underused in the United States. For me the base plastic is better than any of us based plastic. Now I have not looked into the human rights side of production of the disc but based on the cost of living in the United States and what the minimum wage ; is I don’t know if The workers at Yikun our worst off financially when it comes to the amount to get paid versus the cost of living.
The Keystone is definitely my go to. I bag a zero soft (approach), zero medium (beat in turn over), zero hybrid (straight putter), moonshine opto (hyzer flip to reliable turn), and opto-x (straight with fade). It's got a great feeling unique rim shape that I sets it apart from the sea of aviar/wizard clones...
@@timothyawoodphdpe I have a zero soft I putt with, an Opto that I used more for longer approach shots or anhyzer puts from a distance, just picked up a moonshine Opto and it may replace the the Opto for approach shots, seems to have a bit more stability to it, I may have to try it for hyzer flip with more power. I prefer the beadless feel, it just fits in the hand very comfortably!!
The company making discmanias Active-Line is Yikun, and they have their own discs, I love my Gui in Dragon Line plastic. But alas it is lost in the bushes. Bought a replacement by Viking Discs, the Knife in Storm plastic, very very similar shape, just a tad less stable but with putters that is almost always possible to fix by the thrower. I am also loving my Envy but haven't thrown it that much, so I don't trust it in a headwind or in elevation yet. Have to get me a Discmania Active Premium Sensei some day...
So for beginners whom The majority of the disks that are mentioned above are too big for their hand I recommend the Yikun hammer, Innova bullfrog, And based On the measurements; because I have not used it the Discmania Maestro, and for a unorthodox choice (Because the two discs are a five speed and six speed ) I recommend that Innova panther in champion plastic( 5speed’) and the MVP Relay in the Neutron Plastic 6 speed. I have smaller hands for the average male. Far as I can find the average male hand to 7.6 inches long and mine is about 7.3. According to two sources I looked up on the Internet the average female hand is 6.8. So my hand is pretty close to the middle. You have to remember that many discs are made for professionals and if you look at the size of the most top touring professionals they probably aren’t your size.
When it comes to the judge had a hard time finding it out of the 170s or above and therefore it was too stable for my arm speed. And the height Of 2 cm along with a little dome was not very good for my hand and I have a smaller hand for a male.
The pure and fierce are definitely better beginner throwing putters than the other options on the list, being that understable discs are easier for beginners to throw straight. But it's not your fault that your subscribers are dumb, good video!
No one is dumb. I was a beginner once too and as he said when talking about the envy we all have to learn to throw overstable too. Subscribers in Denver may have a different experience with stability than you. It doesn't make them dumb.
I've been playing for almost 3months now, and my opinion is hands down the MVP/axiom soft neutron Envy..... definitely an amazingggggggggg throwing putter
The Plasma Envy has been my throwing putter for a year. You get a little more glide out of it than in any other plastic. I just swapped it out of my bag tho for a Kastaplast Reko X and the Reko replaced my Proxy. Never thought I would unbag the Envy/Proxy combo.
Dude!!!
Wonderful shout out to overthrow and Robbie C disc golf!!
Props to you brother🤟🏼
I love the Axiom Proxy. First disc I ever bought after my starter pack, don't think it will ever leave the bag. Feels amazing in the hand and super easy to put a light touch on
If you like the proxy u should really try the envy and the atom! They all come from the same mold but fly a little different! Proxy-understable, atom-very straight and envy-stable/overstable, but they all feel the same in the hand! Just letting ya no
Just picked up two different proxies. I have a putter addiction, really love these 100ft in. I use em to bash chains mostly in circle one but a gentle release and these are like darts. Don't think these will leave my bag
Much respect for shouting out some other DG TH-camrs. There’s enough bread for everyone to eat and that just makes me like you even more!
I'll always have a sensei in my bag. Great approach disc.
Good on you recommended others. That’s a benefit of the Creators Cup, I think. So good to see the community growing together.
i wonder where is Pa3 love, comes in variety of plastics and straight to reliable fade at end and it can go whit you from start to end of time atleast in 400g plastic.
From someone who only throws prodigy, PA3 is the worst throwing prodigy putter
i bag an electron hard and two eclipse 2.0 envys, one new one and one i've beat in. The electron has no fade, and can be understable when thrown hard, the beat in eclipse has a straight flight and a slight fade at the end, while the new one is a little overstable and great for shaping shots. fyi, this when throwing distances about 230 feet
I’ve been a Envy/Proxy guy but the Reko X and the Reko finally pushed them outta my bag.
I started with a Viking Rune and still bag it. Also love the Harp and Keystone. Started throwing the Pixel and Swan recently
In the abridged and slightly adapted words of the immortal Robbie C…envy is love, envy is life
Moonshine Pure all dayyyyyy
Loving my Axiom Proxy Plasma, too (THE go-to), but will give my Envy a little more time. People seem to love the DM P2, but they keep coming off my release to the right (RHBH) compared to all my other putters. They have a pretty high dome, but I'm sure it's just my technique (or lack of). Also love my DM Sensei Active Premium.
Thank you for the review👍
And becauseSwanky feels 70-ish to me it be cool if you guys wore a 70s style T-shirt in one of your videos ; better yet maybe you can do a review of discs from the 70s😁😉
Pure for the win ❤
Love the star aviarx3 and the plasma proxy for throwing. Had a gstar aviar for a couple years too
Great to see the Sensei getting some love!
My brother scored a 120 ft throw-in birdie with the Sensei back in May. Ever since then he's been putting with it even though it is severely beat in. But it flies absolutely straight when I gave it a whirl. Definitely a good beginner putter!
If u pitch putt like Ken Climo or kinda Ricky then a beat in putter is better in my opinion. Alot of the time the putter comes out a little wobbly and with it beat in it helps straighten it out and will begin to fly straight. It also gives u more room to be off alittle on your putt, if u putt like Simon or Eagle then u want it brand new like cause u have to be dead on with that style putt
I'd rather putt with a beat-up putter than throw it. That's one reason why pros don't putt premium plastic. They want easy, straight flight.
@@seymourglass26 I've been playing since late 90s and I never understood how/why people putt with rock hard putters, it always seemed to me that you got alot more putts that would spit out and they were slippery for the chains to grab. I've always putted with the SS Wizards and I've had them hit front cage and flop in. And with soft putters I always got that nice thumb dent so the putter was always in the same position in my hand
I started with the prime burst Judge, and soon made the small adjustment to the classic blend Emac Judge. My fingers feel more comfortable with the beading at the bottom, and I like the rubbery plastic feel. which I think is a good thing to teach beginners. Finding a disc they like, and not being afraid to experiment with blends and styles to really find that sweet spot.
Innova Colt and any Aviar
I love the axiom envy for a throwing putter. Got my first ace with that disc!
Surprised Luna didn’t make it. Pretty solid list!
Envy all the way!! My 1st ace and my favorite disc in my bag!!
I love my tournament x Matt Orum Maiden! I would recommend the maiden for both beginners and advanced players. It is dead straight with a ton of glide, but still has enough stability to not turn over!
As much as I love the Envy, I think the Proxy is the better beginner choice. I bag 2 of both and love throwing both.
The Proxy is just straighter for a beginner.
The Envy definitely goes farther for me and tends to have better distance control.
I'm really surprised that the luna didn't make the list here. It's probably the most glidey putter out there and is pretty understable in base plastic. Or instead of the fierce you can put the deputy because... well it's the fierce without the pierce name
I think the issue is the Luna is it’s a little less beginner friendly than the fierce and also very expensive due to the McBeth name. It looks like they tried to limit the list to one putter brand max on the list.
@@bravosection yea, that's probably why they didn't include the warden, since it's literally a beadless Judge.
Would love to see yall to a review of the viking discs line. Currently my favorite line and have every one of they're discs in my bag at the moment. All are great, definitely worth a review.
I just got a sensei last week. But I bad a soft nomad and a hard envy. But honestly I find myself putting mostly with my pig. It’s such a versatile disc. I probably throw that pig twice as much as anything else in my bag Just got a Glyph the other day. Haven’t tried it yet. It’s a weird one. And of course everyone should have a glitch in their bag. It’s just such a fun disc to warm up with and with no wind it’s lights out from anything under 100 feet.
Can u do a review on the elevation discs. I’ve heard good things about them even tho they’re super floppy, also they’re pdga approved
They stop on a dime. They are super-hard to forehand and their glide is almost non-existent. If you can figure out the grip, they have their place. The Koi (putter) and Binx (fairway driver) aren't quite as floppy or overstable as the Interceptor (mid), but they're all on the overstable side.
Polecat..ftw! Envy is almost identical to the Luna and both are so good. Personally I use the Nomad. I have thrown an ace with the Proxy at around 175ft as well. Pretty much just find what works for you.
I'm currently using the eMAC Judge in basic for approach and the regular Judge in classic soft for putts.
Im the opposite, normal classic blend judge for throwing and classic soft emac for putting!
I used a judge for my first year switched to the nomad soft they putt and feel very similar
I throw a glow reko and putt with the nomad soft or circle 2 banger gt
Glow reko is so good for throwing, my go to as well. But I'm putting with judges, so kind of similar i've heard.
@@frederikvoerts I used only the judge for year and switched to the nomad very similar profile. Judge is heavy in the middle and the nomad is heavy in the rim with just a little more glide and grip for me. I spin putt with a little Annie.
P model s Duraflex flies closest to my glow Reko on full power about 265. Reko gets slick when wet
The prototype popcorn is really nice
Paige Pierce Fierce and Sky God IV are my go to throwers. Excited to try out the MVP Glitch when it comes in next month.
The Atom doesn't get enough love. For beginners, it's a straighter Envy.
Yes!! I putt with Nomads but I bag two Atoms (one Electron, one Proton) for throwing off the tee. Love the shallow beadless rim
Atoms are great man
I love the infinite discs alpaca (Eric Oakley run) and tomb. Alpaca is a deep rim and tomb is shallow, they have relatively the same flight with the exception of the tomb being a little faster. They are basically glidyer sensei's and you can really crank some power on both.
I have a old very beat up random disc from discmania I dont have a clue what it is but its the best disc for my backhand for 60m and less, it has almost no faid and whit in 60 m dead straight, but im annoied when it becomes too beat up
As long as I am playing disc golf there will always be a westside maiden in my bag
been eyeing the Maiden Moonshine for awhile. Definitely picking it up at the local store next time.
I've had an Opto Pure in my bag for close to 10 years. I would dive into the arctic ocean to save it. If you beat one in, you will never, EVER need another throwing putter.
The envy is great, but everyone forgot the proxy. The proxy should've been on this list and I'm surprised it wasnt
Looove the Proxy. Although that pink envy that we throw in the video is essentially a proxy at this point xD
Legacy Clutch, more specifically the Steve Rico Cobra Strike is stupid straight. Gets frustrating sometimes that there is no fade unless you try to turn it and then it fades back to straight.
I started playing back in 96' and for me it was difficult to throw a putter for any kind of distance, it was like throwing an Ultra Star. I now can only throw a putter like 200' accurately or good enough. I remember watching Simon at the 2014 Rochester flying disc open and he was just crushing putters and i was amazed. Go watch the final round, I believe it was McFlySoHigh or something like that or just search the 40th Rochester flying disc open final round. They were so excited about the DGLO running there 40th tournament and Rochester had there's in 2014, now they would be on 48th annual. Crazy
I throw the sensei a lot ... my friends nicknamed the sensei the metal detector. I would agree they are very straight throwers.
How far off was the Nova?
That's the sickest shirt on the tube.
Also the best putting thrower is the judge.
I throw both the envy and the atom, they have the same core but the atom is a laser. Honorable mention to clash disk butter and popcorn, they are like catch disc. Super soft landing, I have to remind myself that it's not going to fade back to basket even on a baby hyzer, the best way to throw them is to not even think about it just rip it
Go Braves!!
Its 2 runs of sensei first runs are flat and little smoky and then theres new and thei are more clear
I have not tried the envy but based on discs made by the MVP company including Axiom they seem to be more over stable in comparison to the majority of other manufacturers. I haven’t checked out the stats on the disc but the majority of discs made by MVP are not as tall and therefore more usable for smaller hands.
Another great video buddy, but man as an astros fan i wholeheartedly take offense to that shirt lol
Sensei is good but if we think discmania throwing putter then Link is the best. I put with discmania logic but there isn't premium versio off that.
Sensei I s a great choice before it starts to turn due to wear or more torque. I will point out that according to my knowledge the sensei is made by Yikun which I believe their discs are. Underused in the United States. For me the base plastic is better than any of us based plastic. Now I have not looked into the human rights side of production of the disc but based on the cost of living in the United States and what the minimum wage ; is I don’t know if The workers at Yikun our worst off financially when it comes to the amount to get paid versus the cost of living.
Honestly very surprised that the Luna or Berg didn’t crack the list given the cult-like following that each of those discs have.
I think they may not be the most "beginner" friendly. Maybe thats why? but yeah, huge cult followings! Im a Luna nerd myself
Premium Mint Bullet has changed my life
What do you mean by: "It's inconsistent due to it's outsourced" ?
Ha, I carry #1 ND #2. Not sure i can even play without a Pure.
Go braves
I'm also surprised that the lina didn't make it on the list but another thing that's crazy is that the sensei made the lost but the p2 didn't
Probably because the higher price.
Where did the Keystone end up in your poll?
i wonder that too.. last night i made atleast 2 great birdies with the help from the keystone :p yeah im a beginner (just began play this year)
The Keystone is definitely my go to. I bag a zero soft (approach), zero medium (beat in turn over), zero hybrid (straight putter), moonshine opto (hyzer flip to reliable turn), and opto-x (straight with fade). It's got a great feeling unique rim shape that I sets it apart from the sea of aviar/wizard clones...
@@timothyawoodphdpe I have a zero soft I putt with, an Opto that I used more for longer approach shots or anhyzer puts from a distance, just picked up a moonshine Opto and it may replace the the Opto for approach shots, seems to have a bit more stability to it, I may have to try it for hyzer flip with more power. I prefer the beadless feel, it just fits in the hand very comfortably!!
As soon as I clicked on the video I knew the envy would be number 1 and if it wasn’t I’d riot
I throw the Gold-X Pure and put with Zero Soft Pure. Great hand feel, great shot flexibility, straight flyer.
My glow envy is 3,3,0,2
a very underrated putter is the Hydrogen from Loft Discs. Highly recommend them.
I am outright shocked that the harp isn’t on this list, it’s one of the first discs I ever bagged and it’s my most consistent shot on the course
It's the streamline pilot
The company making discmanias Active-Line is Yikun, and they have their own discs, I love my Gui in Dragon Line plastic. But alas it is lost in the bushes. Bought a replacement by Viking Discs, the Knife in Storm plastic, very very similar shape, just a tad less stable but with putters that is almost always possible to fix by the thrower. I am also loving my Envy but haven't thrown it that much, so I don't trust it in a headwind or in elevation yet. Have to get me a Discmania Active Premium Sensei some day...
For my money, it’s the Mercy from Latitude 64
Paige Pierce Fierce is probably my most hated disc I’ve ever owned. Couldn’t control it - rim is just too shallow for my hand.
Go get a 2020 TS Luna... If you can find one
Harp is the answer imo
So for beginners whom The majority of the disks that are mentioned above are too big for their hand I recommend the Yikun hammer, Innova bullfrog, And based On the measurements; because I have not used it the Discmania Maestro, and for a unorthodox choice (Because the two discs are a five speed and six speed ) I recommend that Innova panther in champion plastic( 5speed’) and the MVP Relay in the Neutron Plastic 6 speed. I have smaller hands for the average male. Far as I can find the average male hand to 7.6 inches long and mine is about 7.3. According to two sources I looked up on the Internet the average female hand is 6.8. So my hand is pretty close to the middle. You have to remember that many discs are made for professionals and if you look at the size of the most top touring professionals they probably aren’t your size.
I feel like most beginners pick up high speed over stable discs
When it comes to the judge had a hard time finding it out of the 170s or above and therefore it was too stable for my arm speed. And the height Of 2 cm along with a little dome was not very good for my hand and I have a smaller hand for a male.
The Luna beats the Fierce every day of the year. Also they go way farther.......
They are not comparable. I'm sure the fierce was suggested for beginners because of it's understability.
My god if the Pure isn't here I'll be fuming
I love throwing my Envy, but if James hadn’t made the shot with it, no chance it wins this poll.
The envy is a great throwing putter. Is it the best throwing putter for BEGINNERS? Probably not.
The pure and fierce are definitely better beginner throwing putters than the other options on the list, being that understable discs are easier for beginners to throw straight. But it's not your fault that your subscribers are dumb, good video!
No one is dumb. I was a beginner once too and as he said when talking about the envy we all have to learn to throw overstable too. Subscribers in Denver may have a different experience with stability than you. It doesn't make them dumb.
Better be: judge emac, Innova pig, innova KC abiar, envy, Ricky moonshine harp, and Discraft Luna jawbreaker
All great
Bro yapping
Braves stink! LGM!