I still kept my 1992 Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg R and much later I bought the last Mazda hot hatch for the missus and after 12 years of ownership, we still kept it ... 2012 Mazdaspeed3/MPS3. PS - u got the 4g61T(1.6 turbo 4wd) Colt/Mirage video mix up with Mirage 4g92 1.6 MiVEC and 4g93 1.8na ... it got the same block with Lancer GSR, 4g93T(1.8 turbo 4wd) Jean Todt won WRC in the GpB Peugeot 205 GTi as the navigator.
Is it me or is it painful hearing him say three twenty three rather than just three two three as we called them. Almost all of ours were JDM imports so actually a Mazda Familia Dohc Turbo 4WD. I had an 86 BFMR. I great car.
323 was rebadged here in OZ as the Ford Laser TX3 Turbo, same powertrain, AWD but body looked different not bad actually like most rebadged cars. The last TX3 turbo gen was what you guys call an escort but was a ford laser here in Australia based on a Mazda 323 and was a liftback. Also wheres the GTIR Pulsar?
Here in Australia, I was almost going to buy a Mazda 323 SS(?) (which was the earlier twin-carb version), but couldn't quite afford the one the dealer in their showroom! Neither was I going to be able to cough up the horrendous insurance premiums for being under 25 yrs old back then!
@@adityawidjaya5636 in different placeses it sold with different names , in my country it was with 2 versions 323 glx ( 1.6lt engine ) and 323 gt (1.8lt engine )
@@abdullahkesmenoglu3028 in my country we even get the higer limited trim level called the 323 Rx-3 , its got the Rx emblem but sill use the Bp engine with more performance foccused factory tune and mazdaspeed body kit, but honestly i dont know why they called it Rx3 without putting the 13b rotary in to it🤣
@@abdullahkesmenoglu3028 in other hand, the "lantis" we got here is a basic 4 door sedan used for taxi's, i think mazda just messed up with their car naming department all over the globe 😄
If Chrysler has though about it, the platform underpinning the Talbot Sunbeam could've been for the Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon that came out in the US that same year, in 1978. The 323 hatchback has a very nice design, making airflow easier over the back, with the spoilers, rerouting down force.
I drove a 323 GTX (in stock trim) at an autocross. It may have been a great RALLY car...but the street version was too heavy, a bit ponderous, underpowered (for it's weight), it understeered FAR to much....and turbo lag was a problem. I was very enthused about driving one (because I was a Mazda guy at the time). A local Mazda dealer brought a couple of them and a few other cars to the autocross...for promotional purposes (of course). I was thrilled - until I drove one. NO thanks - and that (along with the other stuff I mentioned) is exactly what I said to the dealer's guys. I was (and still am) a lover of hot hatches. But, I found that, at least in the US market, EVERY car that fell into that category was over-featured, too heavy and missing certain items needed for good performance (such as great brakes). "Over-featured" means too many silly features for such a car, such as power locks & windows, sun rooves, etc., etc. Those bits are STUPID on a hot hatch. The essence of the hot hatch is supposed to be practicality, combined with sporting appeal, at a cheap price. LIGHT WEIGHT is VERY important. You can't get that with all manner of gee-whiz junk added.
Are you talking about the 1.6L BF chassis GTX from the late 80's? I havn't driven one of those. There's 2 generations of the GTX. The second one being the BG chassis with the 1.8L in the early 90's. This version never got sold in the U.S. as far as I know. There's also a further upgraded BG version called the Familia (323) GT-R which utitlised a bigger turbo, bigger brakes, front intercooler (GTX had side mount) & racer body styling. Then came the BG GTAe which was a lightened version of the GT-R. That had no power windows, no aircon, non powered wing mirrors, & got a close ratio gearbox. The info in this video isn't very accurate about the GTX. It's all intermingled (like they were all the same car model) with the info on 1.6L BF, 1.8L BG, 80's/90's & doesn't specifically mention the GT-R but shows it's in video/photos.
Mazda also made a special edition of 323 called ""Mazda Familia Sport 4"" it is one of the sexiest hatchback in looks, with big az hotwheels like spoiler and other aspects...i couldn't find how many of them made or it was only 1 of 1...
Familia Sport 4 is a prototype so most likely just one ever made. It was being made for Group B rallying before that got cancelled. Might be still around in a Mazda warehouse somewhere, actually being forgotten about. Some of the styling ideas went into the Group A homologation Mazda Familia GT-R. Like the restyled bonnet vents for & spot lights front bumper example.
The Mazda 323 was mechanically originally a clone of the MK2 Ford Escort and most of its mechanicals were licensed from Ford! Ford owned a sizable % of Mazda at that time!
What about the Nissan Pulsar GTI R well i little know about this Nissan hatchback the GTI R had a Nissan SR20DET engine powered which come from the Nissan S chassis like Nissan S13/S14/S15. And GTI R did a group A Rallying in 1990s and it was AWD drivetrain and also I called this car the baby GTR.
I guess you are concentrating solely on cars in the U.S. Probably why you missed out the Peugeot 109 GTI, The Golf GTI and the Renault 5 GT Turbo. The best Hot Hatches of all time. Oh! If you are going to include Rally cars, how can we forget the MG Metro 6R4?
This channel really needs to work on improving its sloppy photo/video editing by not mixing in photos or videos of different cars to what's been discussed!
I still kept my 1992 Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg R and much later I bought the last Mazda hot hatch for the missus and after 12 years of ownership, we still kept it ... 2012 Mazdaspeed3/MPS3.
PS - u got the 4g61T(1.6 turbo 4wd) Colt/Mirage video mix up with Mirage 4g92 1.6 MiVEC and 4g93 1.8na ... it got the same block with Lancer GSR, 4g93T(1.8 turbo 4wd)
Jean Todt won WRC in the GpB Peugeot 205 GTi as the navigator.
from NZ?
@@liamreich8486 u are 12 hours flight off.. I'm at the Andaman Sea
The Peugeot 205 T16 competed in group b. The gti competed in group a
@@Ioannis_Pitos yeah the T16,.. why my brain went to GTi😅
@@WayarPutuih Maybe because of the video's subject 😂
Mitsubishi knew how to make a great car that’s for sure
13:24 - wrong Escort, this is an RS Cosworth from the early 1990s. The Sunbeam competed against the Escort Mk II RS1800.
even in forgotten hot hatches my car is forgotten xD
Is it me or is it painful hearing him say three twenty three rather than just three two three as we called them. Almost all of ours were JDM imports so actually a Mazda Familia Dohc Turbo 4WD. I had an 86 BFMR. I great car.
I knew the Miata would come up at some point 😅
323 was rebadged here in OZ as the Ford Laser TX3 Turbo, same powertrain, AWD but body looked different not bad actually like most rebadged cars. The last TX3 turbo gen was what you guys call an escort but was a ford laser here in Australia based on a Mazda 323 and was a liftback. Also wheres the GTIR Pulsar?
Talbot was the brand name Peugeot gave to what was Chrysler UK / Rootes Group when they bought it
Here in Australia, I was almost going to buy a Mazda 323 SS(?) (which was the earlier twin-carb version), but couldn't quite afford the one the dealer in their showroom!
Neither was I going to be able to cough up the horrendous insurance premiums for being under 25 yrs old back then!
06:20 mazda sell this sedan model with pop-up lights a lot ...
U mean the 323 gts Astina, i still keep it and loved it.
@@adityawidjaya5636 in different placeses it sold with different names , in my country it was with 2 versions 323 glx ( 1.6lt engine ) and 323 gt (1.8lt engine )
@@abdullahkesmenoglu3028 in my country we even get the higer limited trim level called the 323 Rx-3 , its got the Rx emblem but sill use the Bp engine with more performance foccused factory tune and mazdaspeed body kit, but honestly i dont know why they called it Rx3 without putting the 13b rotary in to it🤣
@@adityawidjaya5636 well I might be wrong but as much as I remember at that time rx3 model was releated "lantis" .
@@abdullahkesmenoglu3028 in other hand, the "lantis" we got here is a basic 4 door sedan used for taxi's, i think mazda just messed up with their car naming department all over the globe 😄
My old man had one ruff but ran like a dream lovely quick car
If Chrysler has though about it, the platform underpinning the Talbot Sunbeam could've been for the Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon that came out in the US that same year, in 1978.
The 323 hatchback has a very nice design, making airflow easier over the back, with the spoilers, rerouting down force.
Meaning a revival of the muscle car in a small hot hatchback coupe in the Malaise era😉
In malaysia we call SATRIA(colt mirage)
Good to know
I wish they would stop reminding people about cars that are "forgotten"
Hot hatches-compact cars with powerful engines, agile handling, and everyday practicality.
I drove a 323 GTX (in stock trim) at an autocross. It may have been a great RALLY car...but the street version was too heavy, a bit ponderous, underpowered (for it's weight), it understeered FAR to much....and turbo lag was a problem. I was very enthused about driving one (because I was a Mazda guy at the time). A local Mazda dealer brought a couple of them and a few other cars to the autocross...for promotional purposes (of course). I was thrilled - until I drove one. NO thanks - and that (along with the other stuff I mentioned) is exactly what I said to the dealer's guys.
I was (and still am) a lover of hot hatches. But, I found that, at least in the US market, EVERY car that fell into that category was over-featured, too heavy and missing certain items needed for good performance (such as great brakes). "Over-featured" means too many silly features for such a car, such as power locks & windows, sun rooves, etc., etc. Those bits are STUPID on a hot hatch. The essence of the hot hatch is supposed to be practicality, combined with sporting appeal, at a cheap price. LIGHT WEIGHT is VERY important. You can't get that with all manner of gee-whiz junk added.
Are you talking about the 1.6L BF chassis GTX from the late 80's?
I havn't driven one of those. There's 2 generations of the GTX. The second one being the BG chassis with the 1.8L in the early 90's. This version never got sold in the U.S. as far as I know.
There's also a further upgraded BG version called the Familia (323) GT-R which utitlised a bigger turbo, bigger brakes, front intercooler (GTX had side mount) & racer body styling. Then came the BG GTAe which was a lightened version of the GT-R. That had no power windows, no aircon, non powered wing mirrors, & got a close ratio gearbox.
The info in this video isn't very accurate about the GTX. It's all intermingled (like they were all the same car model) with the info on 1.6L BF, 1.8L BG, 80's/90's & doesn't specifically mention the GT-R but shows it's in video/photos.
I drive a Renault 5 Gt turbo and I love her pocket rocket 1.4 turbo I'm buying a Toyota starlet gt turbo tomorrow
The mazda gtx had a 1.8 turbo in nz
My uncles got a few gtx turbo’s
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Mazda also made a special edition of 323 called ""Mazda Familia Sport 4"" it is one of the sexiest hatchback in looks, with big az hotwheels like spoiler and other aspects...i couldn't find how many of them made or it was only 1 of 1...
Familia Sport 4 is a prototype so most likely just one ever made. It was being made for Group B rallying before that got cancelled. Might be still around in a Mazda warehouse somewhere, actually being forgotten about.
Some of the styling ideas went into the Group A homologation Mazda Familia GT-R. Like the restyled bonnet vents for & spot lights front bumper example.
@@vuv.7928 could have turned out to be the sexiest hatchback ever made if they went for production...
The Mazda 323 was mechanically originally a clone of the MK2 Ford Escort and most of its mechanicals were licensed from Ford! Ford owned a sizable % of Mazda at that time!
What about the Nissan Pulsar GTI R well i little know about this Nissan hatchback the GTI R had a Nissan SR20DET engine powered which come from the Nissan S chassis like Nissan S13/S14/S15. And GTI R did a group A Rallying in 1990s and it was AWD drivetrain and also I called this car the baby GTR.
Ford Sierra Cosworth rs500
I guess you are concentrating solely on cars in the U.S. Probably why you missed out the Peugeot 109 GTI, The Golf GTI and the Renault 5 GT Turbo. The best Hot Hatches of all time. Oh! If you are going to include Rally cars, how can we forget the MG Metro 6R4?
Colt GTI 1991: Really just a Nissan Silvia S13 hatchback
This channel really needs to work on improving its sloppy photo/video editing by not mixing in photos or videos of different cars to what's been discussed!
Pertamax
The digital dashboards of the 80's never have to return. Ugly back then - ugly now
Im pretty sure the escort cosworth was not around in 1979