Did you notice how it begins with the Stark theme, and as Ice is being melted down, it slowly morphs into the Rains of Castamere? By the end, the Lannister theme has taken over.
@@spewter Hahaha no I was hardly listening - I was remembering why Tywin was my favourite character, but it's such a profound detail and subtle enough that you could get the feeling without directly noticing it.
I commented this on your last video and got enough upvotes that I'll keep my promise and continue to comment on each video now: You should continue this re-visits, even past season 5! You have a new perspective on everything and these reviews are so on point! RE-REVIEW SEASONS 6 AND 7!!!! We love you guys.
Shroomie On the off chance you haven't checked them out yet, Alt Shift X has episode analysis of season 6 and 7 that is freaking awesome. And the topic videos are great too. Tbh Alt Shift X just has exceptionally high quality videos period, but they're also really fun to watch, funny and packed with useful GoT history, lore, analysis and theories. That said, I agree 1,000% that Nerd Soup should do these for every episode (including 6 and 7 again). Oooo and they could do videos on GoT history, houses, theories, prophecies and etc too
Omg this comment got “liked” by NerdSoup!!! DOES THIS MEAN THEY AGREE AND WILL RE-REVIEW SEASONS 6 AND 7?!? Or just that they appreciated me saying we love them haha.
Jaime wouldn't have gone after Ned if Catelyn hadn't kidnapped Tyrion and took him to be tried by a mad woman who hates Lannisters. Jaime knew that nobody would give a damn about Tyrion being unjustly murdered, save himself, so he went after Ned to try to get him to bring Tyrion back to King's Landing. Jaime didn't start the War of the Five Kings, Catelyn did. Littlefinger set the trap, but Catelyn was the first one to take the bait.
tywins speach about whats more honorable is awesome, but so wrong, they didn't just kille the noblemen, they also killed the entire stark host, so killing 10.000 men on the battlefield is kind of more honorable then killing 10.000 men at a wedding ;)
Tom Merker Killing 10000 men in combat can sort of be justified by arguing it’s out of self-defense, because the enemy display clear hostility and are a legitimate threat to your life. Killing 10000 men at a wedding when the victims were promised safety and voluntarily unarmed, is just simply treachery, especially when guest right is such a universally agreed sacred tradition in Westeros.
Tom Merker -- I think too, that how he viewed the Starks from Ned calling him out to answer for Clegan down to Caitlin & Robb ‘kidnapping’ both his other sons. He hated them with such passion that I’m sure he was delighted by how they died--unaware, defenses down, celebratory mood--to rip that confidence in their ‘honorable selves’ to bits. The only real warmth that comes from Tywin is the lovely scenes with Arya serving him. Love those!
Ironic that dishonorable people win, while the honourable people lose at the end of this war of the five kings. But those dishonorable people they too end dying.
On a macro-level, it's terrifyingly surgical. Instead of common folk getting caught up as collateral casualties, the entire Stark host was wiped out quickly. It was still all BS for Tywin to claim this as his rationale. He chooses the most brutal and terrifying path in order to keep his opponents in shock. It took 20 years before Prince Oberyn even attempted to get his revenge on Gregor Clegane and extract a confession implicating Tywin.
It's NOT more honorable. The very definition of honor screams against it with all it's power... It is the "best" way to end a war though. But not even close to honorable. It's the exact opposite.
I really love that opening scene. Really magnificently done and I think, if I'm not mistaken, this season starts with Tywin at the height of his powers and then pretty much ends with... well what it ends with. Shit
Probably won't read this since im late. But thanks for doing this guys! I love watching these before I go to bed your voices are really calming and relaxing! Thanks!
Ultimately Jaime just wants to be recognized as the greatest fighter in Westeros. He wants people to think of him the way people think of Arthur Dayne and Barristan. But he was never given a Great War to create his legend. He was a hostage basically in Robert’ Rebellion and the war against the Iron Islands was a joke. Then he was captured and lost his sword hand in the War of 5 Kings. And of course now people hate him for doing the right thing in killing the Mad King.
@Ragnar Skarpsvärd wtf you on about. They clearly state in the show many times how he is one of the best ever. He was just toying with Ned who's only slightly above swordsman. In the books Jaime is even better.
@Australiantatious - Dude, watch the show. Jaime is consistently portrayed at one of the greatest swordsman in Westeros. The Nerd Soup Guys make a great point when discussing how Jaime is a born leader but doesn’t ever become one. He’s got the wealth as a Lannister, the looks, the charisma, the legendary sword skills, and a formidable family name. This is everything you’d need to succeed in Westeros, yet Jaime doesn’t want it. I think it’s because he saw just how ugly and destructive power can be when he served Aerys. And growing up with a fanatical, power-hungry father must have been offputting. The when he saved the city and was vilified for it, his reaction was that these people weren’t worth ruling. What good is power over the masses when the masses are ignorant and reactionary? Being born rich and privileged allowed Jaime to feel powerful from the start. Littlefinger, for example, probably takes inspiration from the powerful men of Westeros. He never had the feeling of security and status so feels he must fight for it. So that’s what Jaime doesn’t want. As to what he does want, I’d say he would have been to a large extent happy to live quietly with Cersei and the kids. But sadly for poor Jaime, even if he didn’t have Tywin controlling his life, he’d still have to deal with Cersei being another megalomaniac, and his eldest son being is a psychopath.
"This episode makes me want to get KFC." My work-poisoned brain: "Come to our KFC for all your chicken needs. -Are you really gonna die for our chicken?- "
In an interview Maisie Williams said that when they filmed the Inn at Crossroads they had a lot of leftover chicken so she took a bunch back to her hotel room and ate it.
You guys are back, and better than ever. 3 reviews in 3 weeks. You guys are on 🔥🔥🔥 I can't wait for your next review, you guys rock, keep up the good work!.
You guys seem to mock new-Daario. Personally, I prefer the newer incarnation a whole lot more. Season 3 Daario seemed greasy and cocky, Season 4 Daario is everything I pictured when reading his character - a foreign cutthroat/womaniser who was tall, dark and handsome. I feel season 3 Daario lacked some of these features
The reason why robb was never jealous of Jon was cause of ned as a father. He spread that love equally between all his kids plus the way he carries himself all that honor. I miss house stark
25:57 "there might be giants 😝 they call me allister thorn. I think im getting better on the drums." I pray to the old gods and the new that someone gets that reference!
Tywin... though, I'm not supposed to like him, has been one of my favorite characters on the show. This opening caused great turmoil in my mind... more than just about anything else he's done, made me hate him... SOOO MUCH!!!
Oberyn says that anyone who works for Littlefinger is for sale. WTF, in the series Littlefinger is so obviously vile that even people in Dorne know his reputation. No wonder George Martin said that they are almost different characters, since in the books no one suspects Littlefinger at all. They guy seems entirely harmless and always ready please others.
Also, your editing is amazing!! Great job guys!! Truly on par when your talking bout a certain character and then they say their line right as they're supposed to........ Awesome!!!!!!
So happy to see your channel grow like it has! First thing I always wanted to do after watching the latest episode was watch your review videos. Fantastic job, can't wait for season 8!
Thank you guys for doing all of these. I look forward to it every week and it’s giving me the Game of Thrones dose I need before season 8! I love your voices and your commentary and knowledge about the lore and history of Westeros/Essos. Keep it up, you’re doing a great job!
The alternate story that you two came up with on the fly for the necklace that ultimately posions Joffery had me laughing to the point of tears! I can just imagine the Queen of Thorns looking at the handmaiden like WTF and backhanding her 🤣
Ice, the most tragic death in the series. Such a bizarrely-beautiful, and unique weapon, lost forever, only to be replaced by the glittery, and commonly proportioned.
Even though I know most of the plot to the end I still go back to that one scene were the two swords were created and ice destroyed such an important weapon. It’s such an emotional scene and means so much more than at first glance...
This episode is a masterpiece. It has my favorite scene with the Hound in the tavern haha. I also love how Tyrion tells Tywin "...and Walder Frey gets all the credit, or all the blame, depending on where your allegiance lies." Hell of a season premier.
Read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War." One of the tenants of a good general is that they only go to war when the war is won. Robb had no clue about his goals, the logistics, the means of achieving those goals, allies, finances, etc. Tywin, however, pretty much had all that rolled up well before Ned entered King's Landing. There were some exceptions but for the most part, Tywin had already won the war. So he could afford to lose battles (as Robb even knows) because Robb, by default, can't win.
I totally agree with you. Tywin is a great strategist and was playing the long game. Robb hadn't lost any battles up to that point, but he had just lost Karstark's men so it would have only been a matter of time before the tables turned and he did start to lose battles and many more men.
Like General Grant in the American Civil War who used "brutal arithmetic" to defeat the South: narrow victories for the Confederacy were more damaging to them because the industrial North was more heavily populated, Grant knew they could absorb the losses and grind out victory. Oh btw the word is "tenets" not tenants, tenants pay rent lol.
It's so crazy seeing all the consequences of the Red Wedding! It had such an impact on the viewers so it makes sense to have an even bigger impact on the characters themselves. I feel really bad for Sansa :/
oh yeah, always loved his character, even before the show existed Oberyn was one of the best characters dicked around as a maester to learn some stuff then bailed, was a mercenary in Essos for a while, poisoned a guy in a duel back in the day and also injured a guy but theyre friends now Hes such a charismatic badass who not only is politically savvy but a fighter, but also reasonable and not a dick, its a really rare combination
The Thenn's are differentiated from the Free Folk by the fact that they have a permanent Chieftan based on kinship lineage, they're more disciplined, and they practice metal forging, mostly bronze
I've said this before, but every time I sit down to watch these, it gives me an excuse to pull my Longclaw off of my wall and chill with it. Here's to the (debatedly) greatest season!
Did you guys overlook how Oberyn's first scene with Tyrion confirmed R+L=J? When he talks about how the noble Rhaegar Targaryen left Elia for another woman? Pretty sure that was the first time the show makes that connection.
Very true! Good spot. This is the first time a character has specifically challenged the ‘Rhaegar was a kidnapping rapist’ narrative. Need Soup boys have said in past recaps that the way Rhaegar is spoken of (Barriston Selmy says he’s the best man he ever knew), that this undermines Bobby B’s narrative of Evil Rhaegar. But yeah, it’s not focussed on but it’s clear that they don’t see Rhaegar as an abuser. And!... let’s not forget that the Martell’s would have good reason to resent Rhaegar. I guess the R+L=J is such a big fab theory that to linger any longer on it, would be too much. Well played, D&D
@@spewter History is written by the victor, and the victor was a furious man that probably didn't know Rhaegar very well at all. I imagine the Martells knew Rhaegar's personality a lot more than Robert did and Oberyn was never one to deny realities. You're right, focusing on R+L=J would've ruined it so it's a nice subtle jab at the idea from a character that seems so very far removed from Jon and his lineage. I imagine people were too engulfed in Oberyn's swagger to notice the implications of what he was saying.
Haven't watched the vid yet, but I thought I'd share my impression of the scene. It represented the immense respect that Tywin had for the Starks, even though they were enemies.
Hahaha Jaime pimp slapping the night king with a valyrian steel hand had me laughing out loud. It always bugged me that they didn't like attach a blade to his arm for combat roles, that's gotta be easier than using your left hand
Love this episode. It’s the best of the season openers and a vastly underrated episode overall. The fight scene at the end with The Hound and Arya is one of the best action sequences in the whole series. Season 4 is my favorite.
Seriously though, not to downplay Bran's role in defeating the Night King, but imagine how amazing it would be for Jaime to defeat the NK. He's essentially a crippled knight that is on the road to redemption. Landing the killing blow on the NK with his left hand would save millions of innocents from death (again) by killing another King and restore his honor. It would just be so fucking poetic, man. Being called the Kingslayer after that would be a massive compliment.
Maybe they just put on a show for Tywin, they're like, "twat standing there pretending he's following the process, _ahh, mhmm, yes of course please continue,_ you know nothing Tywin Lannister."
You don't think Catelyn kidnapping Tyrion started the war? Really? She knew who she was taking, she knew about Tywin. Ned tells her not to do anything reckless, and first thing she does, kidnaps the Queen's brother. Tywin's son. Stupid.
I mean Tywin invading the Riveralands started the war technically. By your definition of what starts a war it could be Cersei and Jaime throwing out the son of the Warden of the North out of a tower. Did they not know catelyn would work day and night to find out who did it? And charge those who conspired? The point of Got is that causes are very long consequence
@@sansonefabio8177 Obviously they didn't think she'd find out. They assumed he'd die, and without proof, what could she actually do? On the other hand, very publicly capturing a famous man, loudly proclaim who he is and where you're taking him (lying about that) can't really be denied. Which is why Ned was immediately attacked.
@@Vanillastump capturing and putting for trial isn’t execution - catelyn didn’t need proof to begin a trial , Jaime Lannister should be smart enough to know it. Tywin could have easily pushed king Robert to free tyrion(as Robert wanted regardless). So by all of these points Tywin started the war by being offended he knew king Robert would let Tyrion off the hook regardless, Tywin has the crowns finances by the balls
Thank you! Someone that comes to the right conclusion about who was at fault . She was so dumb and in the way of what every man in her family was trying to accomplish.. shoulda kept her arse in the room with Bran and stfu .
13:13 a rapid rating indeed they are what six years old in season 7 and Drogon is the size of Caraxes who was born in a time with not much magic in the world and it took him 60 years to get to that size.
Perhaps the funniest line said by the Hound is “What I understand is that if anymore words come pouring out your c*nt mouth, I’m gonna have to eat every f***ing chicken in this room.”
I got a notification for this on my phone, and when I clicked on it, the video was set to private for some reason. I am able to view and comment on this from on my laptop, but not on mobile. Make A Path Presents (Ronny Haze) has a video about encountering this issue for some of his videos that he has posted as well.
I love your discussion on Jamie's hand and now I hope this happens in Season 8: Jamie pimp slaps the Night's King. The Night's King says his first line: *"What the FUCK is your hand made of?!"*
I always thought it was essential that Daenerys spent so much time trying to rule in Meereen. It's a chance for her to get some real practice being a proper Queen before heading to Westeros to try doing it for real, like she wants to so badly. People complain that it's a complete waste of time, that she's "spinning her wheels," for multiple seasons, but I disagree with that sentiment completely. If she'd have set sail for Westeros while her Dragons were young, like after leaving Qarth or somewhere around then, she'd not only have most likely failed as a ruling Monarch in King's Landing by the 6th or 7th season, she probably wouldn't have even made it into the city to begin with. It wasn't until after she had acquired her Army of Unsullied, her mounted Dothraki "Cavalry" and company of Second Sone sellswords, her Dornish and Ironborn Westerosi allies who helped her get her fleet of ships and her three full-grown Dragons that she was actually ready to set sail. But most importantly she needed to actually LEARN how to be a Queen, not just a conqueror, for any of it to even matter in the first place. And that's the opportunity she's given in Meereen, whether it took her a couple seasons to get ready or not. Hell, she didn't even have her loyal Dothraki Hordes or fleet of ships until the end of season 6. So, all the pieces hadn't quite fallen into place yet anyway. That's not "spinning your wheels" in my book, that's making DAMN certain you're actually ready before taking that first step. Because if you're not, all that hard work and preparation is meaningless. 👍😊
I love when brienne uses it in the fight in feast Oathkeeper shreds, moves faster, seems to increase her skills by a lot It's a good example of how good they are Lighter and faster but still strong and sharp
Yes- Brienne is physical strength, Olenna intellectual & Marjorie is beauty & charm all ways to get what you want in this world. They should’ve let Tommen & Marjory rule that’d have been the best for the realm IMHO lol (Renley would have been a good King too!)
Spoiler warning season 7 😋 And bare with me I'm not a woman of few words. I'm just rewatching this episode (and the whole series for the 6th time or so 😀) and something stood out to me in the following scene... Jamie is back and gets his golden hand fitted by Qyburn. Then Qyburn and Cersei talk briefly before he leaves. She thanks him for helping her with "the other matter" and says her symptoms have gone completely when he asks if she feels better. Some episodes ago Olenna told Tywin that Cersei wasnt a good match to marry Ser Loras because she is too old and her change will come soon. Now putting two and two together I thought... Wait a minute. Maybe she starts experiencing menopause symptoms for which Qyburn gave her a remedy. Also she pushes Jamie away when he makes advances towards her and says not now and that he came back too late. Although I don't know how she would have wanted to have another child with him at this point in the story but it would fit into the theory that it's part of why she is mad at him so what the hell let's say it's another clue. 😋 And on a more current note... that would mean she couldn't be pregnant years later in season 7. I mean I didn't believe her to be pregnant anyway and thought saying it was just tactics to keep Jamie close and loyal. But this could be a clue for us watchers. This just really got stuck in my head right now. Maybe it's total bs haha or it's already a theory and I'm just late to the party. Anyway I needed to stop and write it down for my fellow tinfoil hat wearers. ^^
The girl in grey with the black hair during Olenna and Margery’s jewellery scene looks like it could be Mira Forrester from the Telltale game. At around 26:24
I think people give Tyrion too much leeway when it comes to Shae. She might be in the wrong about how she's handling it but she's right about his unrealistic expectations of their relationship and what it'd eventually turn into. My reading of his scenes with Sansa mixed with his relationship with Tywin ultimately end with him trying to make it work with Sansa. He's essentially stringing Shae along and lying to both himself and her.
Ving Rhames --I think he does love Shae but he cares for Sansa but it can’t be more than that as long as Shae is there. Where is deluded is thinking Shae would go quietly away and whatever kindness he could ever show, Sansa will never get over she’s just a hostage.
One thing that pisses me off is nobody remembers Tysha Tyrion's first wife, Tywin orders his guardsmen to rape her, while tyrion was forced to watch all this happen to her, then after that messy scene tywin forces his son to pay her as if she was a whore. This is Tyrion's first love and it was destroyed so brutally by his own father, this motives tyrion for a good reason beside then killing his own father.
Tyrion's first situation with his wife makes his relationship with Shae all the more reckless, imo. If, in the show, he's still not aware that Tysha actually did love him and wasn't paid then he's risking the same thing happening all over again. You can't help who you love but you can sure choose to not put them in a dangerous situation.
I think it's personally a 'having cake and eating it too' kinda thing that gets obscured by how badly he's treated. He doesn't have to be there, he wants to be there. He's certainly crushed under the weight of his father but his desperation to be acknowledged by people who despise him and whom he despises cloud his judgement.
Jamie is right about Sansa probably being the safest in kl with Tyrion as her husband because her parents and her older brother are all murdered, they know nothing of her younger siblings and he knows that Lysa Arryn is not the best woman, like when Cersei points out to lf that after Lysa's death when he calls her kind, she calls him out on his bs and tells him that she was neither of those things. Ofc, Jamie is still not fulfilling his vows, he could confront his family about their monstrosity but he doesn't because he's back in his comfort zone, with no terror looming near. What bugs me the most about him is when people say that he's a great guy and what not is that, he decides to stand with his family day after day even when they're all horrible. He was supposed to protect Elia and her kids but he never confronts Tywin that they could have been imprisoned instead of being killed. Ned Stark was absolutely right, he served when serving was easy, that's literally all he does until he meets Brienne.
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That opening scene with Tywin is a masterpiece.
Every scene with Tywin is masterpiece, great character greatest actor in this show for me
Did you notice how it begins with the Stark theme, and as Ice is being melted down, it slowly morphs into the Rains of Castamere? By the end, the Lannister theme has taken over.
Jake Wright - Did you notice they said that at the beginning of the video?
@@spewter Hahaha no I was hardly listening - I was remembering why Tywin was my favourite character, but it's such a profound detail and subtle enough that you could get the feeling without directly noticing it.
The music alone makes that scene fantastic, not counting the wordless storytelling going on that scene.
I commented this on your last video and got enough upvotes that I'll keep my promise and continue to comment on each video now: You should continue this re-visits, even past season 5! You have a new perspective on everything and these reviews are so on point! RE-REVIEW SEASONS 6 AND 7!!!! We love you guys.
These videos have made me re-read the books and start the series again. Really enjoy these videos!
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On the off chance you haven't checked them out yet, Alt Shift X has episode analysis of season 6 and 7 that is freaking awesome.
And the topic videos are great too.
Tbh Alt Shift X just has exceptionally high quality videos period, but they're also really fun to watch, funny and packed with useful GoT history, lore, analysis and theories.
That said, I agree 1,000% that Nerd Soup should do these for every episode (including 6 and 7 again).
Oooo and they could do videos on GoT history, houses, theories, prophecies and etc too
Kiki C I have seen most of Alt shift X’s work as well! There’s like 4 GoT channels I watch.
Absolutely agree! I look forward to these revisited episodes every week. The new perspective brings a whole new way of theorizing to the videos.
Omg this comment got “liked” by NerdSoup!!! DOES THIS MEAN THEY AGREE AND WILL RE-REVIEW SEASONS 6 AND 7?!? Or just that they appreciated me saying we love them haha.
The best season imo. Every episode is a banger it's insane.
Australiantatious season 6 is good, nowhere near as good as 3 or 4 tho
“And Stannis is in the corner just nodding his head” YES 😂😂😩
Jaime wouldn't have gone after Ned if Catelyn hadn't kidnapped Tyrion and took him to be tried by a mad woman who hates Lannisters. Jaime knew that nobody would give a damn about Tyrion being unjustly murdered, save himself, so he went after Ned to try to get him to bring Tyrion back to King's Landing. Jaime didn't start the War of the Five Kings, Catelyn did. Littlefinger set the trap, but Catelyn was the first one to take the bait.
Yeah she was amazing how more people ppl didn’t have the same conclusion, that catelyn is to blame for the whole thing.
I’ve watched the series three times and yet I can’t stop watching these like it’s an addiction. Please keep this series going until season 8!
Holy shit I came when this was still on private. Never this early. Let's goooooo
Same and then returned 2 hours later lmao
Dang you’re fine
tywins speach about whats more honorable is awesome, but so wrong, they didn't just kille the noblemen, they also killed the entire stark host, so killing 10.000 men on the battlefield is kind of more honorable then killing 10.000 men at a wedding ;)
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Killing 10000 men in combat can sort of be justified by arguing it’s out of self-defense, because the enemy display clear hostility and are a legitimate threat to your life.
Killing 10000 men at a wedding when the victims were promised safety and voluntarily unarmed, is just simply treachery, especially when guest right is such a universally agreed sacred tradition in Westeros.
Tom Merker -- I think too, that how he viewed the Starks from Ned calling him out to answer for Clegan down to Caitlin & Robb ‘kidnapping’ both his other sons. He hated them with such passion that I’m sure he was delighted by how they died--unaware, defenses down, celebratory mood--to rip that confidence in their ‘honorable selves’ to bits. The only real warmth that comes from Tywin is the lovely scenes with Arya serving him. Love those!
Ironic that dishonorable people win, while the honourable people lose at the end of this war of the five kings. But those dishonorable people they too end dying.
On a macro-level, it's terrifyingly surgical. Instead of common folk getting caught up as collateral casualties, the entire Stark host was wiped out quickly. It was still all BS for Tywin to claim this as his rationale. He chooses the most brutal and terrifying path in order to keep his opponents in shock. It took 20 years before Prince Oberyn even attempted to get his revenge on Gregor Clegane and extract a confession implicating Tywin.
It's NOT more honorable. The very definition of honor screams against it with all it's power... It is the "best" way to end a war though. But not even close to honorable. It's the exact opposite.
I really love that opening scene. Really magnificently done and I think, if I'm not mistaken, this season starts with Tywin at the height of his powers and then pretty much ends with... well what it ends with. Shit
Literally and figuratively.
Tywin's dead body smells like shit, because it's an allegory that his legacy is shit.
You kept your promise to me on twitter about "Mondays." Thank you Nerd Soup
This helps dull the Monday pain.
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Probably won't read this since im late.
But thanks for doing this guys! I love watching these before I go to bed your voices are really calming and relaxing!
Thanks!
I second this, your guys' voices are great
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Ultimately Jaime just wants to be recognized as the greatest fighter in Westeros. He wants people to think of him the way people think of Arthur Dayne and Barristan. But he was never given a Great War to create his legend. He was a hostage basically in Robert’ Rebellion and the war against the Iron Islands was a joke. Then he was captured and lost his sword hand in the War of 5 Kings. And of course now people hate him for doing the right thing in killing the Mad King.
@Ragnar Skarpsvärd wtf you on about. They clearly state in the show many times how he is one of the best ever. He was just toying with Ned who's only slightly above swordsman. In the books Jaime is even better.
@Australiantatious - Dude, watch the show. Jaime is consistently portrayed at one of the greatest swordsman in Westeros.
The Nerd Soup Guys make a great point when discussing how Jaime is a born leader but doesn’t ever become one.
He’s got the wealth as a Lannister, the looks, the charisma, the legendary sword skills, and a formidable family name. This is everything you’d need to succeed in Westeros, yet Jaime doesn’t want it.
I think it’s because he saw just how ugly and destructive power can be when he served Aerys. And growing up with a fanatical, power-hungry father must have been offputting. The when he saved the city and was vilified for it, his reaction was that these people weren’t worth ruling. What good is power over the masses when the masses are ignorant and reactionary?
Being born rich and privileged allowed Jaime to feel powerful from the start. Littlefinger, for example, probably takes inspiration from the powerful men of Westeros. He never had the feeling of security and status so feels he must fight for it.
So that’s what Jaime doesn’t want. As to what he does want, I’d say he would have been to a large extent happy to live quietly with Cersei and the kids. But sadly for poor Jaime, even if he didn’t have Tywin controlling his life, he’d still have to deal with Cersei being another megalomaniac, and his eldest son being is a psychopath.
"This episode makes me want to get KFC."
My work-poisoned brain: "Come to our KFC for all your chicken needs. -Are you really gonna die for our chicken?- "
Ice's melting is just as sad as a direwolf's death. Don't @ me.
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@@masterofdisguise1112 Shit, I've been busted.
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it was a pure desecration
Haha evidently I was here @ing you 9 months ago! lol Sorry, man. 👍😊
In an interview Maisie Williams said that when they filmed the Inn at Crossroads they had a lot of leftover chicken so she took a bunch back to her hotel room and ate it.
You guys are back, and better than ever. 3 reviews in 3 weeks. You guys are on 🔥🔥🔥
I can't wait for your next review, you guys rock, keep up the good work!.
No breaks on this hardhome train
It was about getting Needle back for Aria, copying the Lomy thing was just for extra terror before he died. To quote the Hound "The Fucks a Lomy?"
Hahaha 26:22 Olenna sends the girls on an Easter egg hunt lol "tee-hee hee hee hee heee!"👯
You guys seem to mock new-Daario. Personally, I prefer the newer incarnation a whole lot more. Season 3 Daario seemed greasy and cocky, Season 4 Daario is everything I pictured when reading his character - a foreign cutthroat/womaniser who was tall, dark and handsome. I feel season 3 Daario lacked some of these features
Yeah season 3 Daario was some Fabio look alike
The810kid It was eerily clear that he was wearing a wig too
He was sleezy
Book Daario is kind sleasy tbh, but what both actors lacked is the flamboyance that was central to the character and his philosophy.
The first Daario is a total creep
The reason why robb was never jealous of Jon was cause of ned as a father. He spread that love equally between all his kids plus the way he carries himself all that honor. I miss house stark
25:57 "there might be giants 😝 they call me allister thorn. I think im getting better on the drums." I pray to the old gods and the new that someone gets that reference!
Tywin... though, I'm not supposed to like him, has been one of my favorite characters on the show. This opening caused great turmoil in my mind... more than just about anything else he's done, made me hate him... SOOO MUCH!!!
Oberyn says that anyone who works for Littlefinger is for sale. WTF, in the series Littlefinger is so obviously vile that even people in Dorne know his reputation.
No wonder George Martin said that they are almost different characters, since in the books no one suspects Littlefinger at all. They guy seems entirely harmless and always ready please others.
Also, your editing is amazing!! Great job guys!! Truly on par when your talking bout a certain character and then they say their line right as they're supposed to........ Awesome!!!!!!
So happy to see your channel grow like it has! First thing I always wanted to do after watching the latest episode was watch your review videos. Fantastic job, can't wait for season 8!
Please keep doing these. They're always highlights of the week for me! :)
You guys have become my comfort podcast to listen to over the years. Just wanted to spread some love 😊
Thank you guys for doing all of these. I look forward to it every week and it’s giving me the Game of Thrones dose I need before season 8! I love your voices and your commentary and knowledge about the lore and history of Westeros/Essos. Keep it up, you’re doing a great job!
Margaery says "Ring of dead Sparrows around my neck" - foreshadowing....
these recaps have been incredible; being that they take in the full context of all 7 seasons we have seen so far
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Thank you very much! Had Mexican food with my wife and kids. It's a good day! !💙
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Happy Birthday 👏 invite over all your friends to watch Joffery's wedding or the Purple Wedding.
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Thank you for your accurate commentary. You two are brilliant.
This has become my favorite series on TH-cam! Look forward to every single vid!! Keep up the fantastic works guys!!
The alternate story that you two came up with on the fly for the necklace that ultimately posions Joffery had me laughing to the point of tears! I can just imagine the Queen of Thorns looking at the handmaiden like WTF and backhanding her 🤣
this just made my Monday so much better
“Even though that shit slaps”😂
You guys rock. So much joy from watching these post show recaps.
Ice, the most tragic death in the series. Such a bizarrely-beautiful, and unique weapon, lost forever, only to be replaced by the glittery, and commonly proportioned.
I live for these reviews! Love them! Thank you for making it past season 3. Keep up the great work.
Even though I know most of the plot to the end I still go back to that one scene were the two swords were created and ice destroyed such an important weapon. It’s such an emotional scene and means so much more than at first glance...
This episode holds the mic and my attention like two swords
This episode is a masterpiece. It has my favorite scene with the Hound in the tavern haha. I also love how Tyrion tells Tywin "...and Walder Frey gets all the credit, or all the blame, depending on where your allegiance lies." Hell of a season premier.
Woohooo!!!! I like how they're getting longer, make the reviews an hour long, I love and look forward to them!!! And monkey, you're the best!!!
I always rewatch the talked about episode after watching these. How could I not. Much hype. Many feels. 🐺🖤
Read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War." One of the tenants of a good general is that they only go to war when the war is won. Robb had no clue about his goals, the logistics, the means of achieving those goals, allies, finances, etc. Tywin, however, pretty much had all that rolled up well before Ned entered King's Landing. There were some exceptions but for the most part, Tywin had already won the war. So he could afford to lose battles (as Robb even knows) because Robb, by default, can't win.
I totally agree with you. Tywin is a great strategist and was playing the long game. Robb hadn't lost any battles up to that point, but he had just lost Karstark's men so it would have only been a matter of time before the tables turned and he did start to lose battles and many more men.
Like General Grant in the American Civil War who used "brutal arithmetic" to defeat the South: narrow victories for the Confederacy were more damaging to them because the industrial North was more heavily populated, Grant knew they could absorb the losses and grind out victory.
Oh btw the word is "tenets" not tenants, tenants pay rent lol.
It's so crazy seeing all the consequences of the Red Wedding! It had such an impact on the viewers so it makes sense to have an even bigger impact on the characters themselves. I feel really bad for Sansa :/
This instantly brightened my day! Keep up the good work guys!
oh yeah, always loved his character, even before the show existed Oberyn was one of the best characters
dicked around as a maester to learn some stuff then bailed, was a mercenary in Essos for a while, poisoned a guy in a duel back in the day and also injured a guy but theyre friends now
Hes such a charismatic badass who not only is politically savvy but a fighter, but also reasonable and not a dick, its a really rare combination
I LOVE these videos!!! I was on the train home just smiling at the witty commentary, so fucking hilarious!
Absolutely love your GoT re-visiting reviews. Eagerly wait for every video. you and Aron are the best !!
Awesome. Gonna make this overtime at work go much faster
I look forward to these revisited episodes every week, they speak straight to an english major’s soul.
The Thenn's are differentiated from the Free Folk by the fact that they have a permanent Chieftan based on kinship lineage, they're more disciplined, and they practice metal forging, mostly bronze
The music that kicks in when Arya kills Polliver is heavy AF. 40:09
This series has surprisingly become a weekly comfort food for me.
I've said this before, but every time I sit down to watch these, it gives me an excuse to pull my Longclaw off of my wall and chill with it. Here's to the (debatedly) greatest season!
Alex Nowak “brutal sword solo”
Can you please fix season 6 episode 2?! Thank you for more awesome videos!!!
Haha right when the video ended after the hound talking about chickens at the crossroads I got an ad for KFC.
This is my favorite season. Just everything about it is just…. Ughh it’s perfect
I don't know why I like this so much but on this whole goddamn website you guys are pretty high up on my Tier List
That beginning scene is not at all how swords are made but that shit looks so damn cool I can't deny
oh my gosh. amazing. I just loved watching that so much
Did you guys overlook how Oberyn's first scene with Tyrion confirmed R+L=J? When he talks about how the noble Rhaegar Targaryen left Elia for another woman? Pretty sure that was the first time the show makes that connection.
Very true! Good spot. This is the first time a character has specifically challenged the ‘Rhaegar was a kidnapping rapist’ narrative.
Need Soup boys have said in past recaps that the way Rhaegar is spoken of (Barriston Selmy says he’s the best man he ever knew), that this undermines Bobby B’s narrative of Evil Rhaegar. But yeah, it’s not focussed on but it’s clear that they don’t see Rhaegar as an abuser. And!... let’s not forget that the Martell’s would have good reason to resent Rhaegar.
I guess the R+L=J is such a big fab theory that to linger any longer on it, would be too much. Well played, D&D
@@spewter History is written by the victor, and the victor was a furious man that probably didn't know Rhaegar very well at all.
I imagine the Martells knew Rhaegar's personality a lot more than Robert did and Oberyn was never one to deny realities.
You're right, focusing on R+L=J would've ruined it so it's a nice subtle jab at the idea from a character that seems so very far removed from Jon and his lineage. I imagine people were too engulfed in Oberyn's swagger to notice the implications of what he was saying.
Haven't watched the vid yet, but I thought I'd share my impression of the scene.
It represented the immense respect that Tywin had for the Starks, even though they were enemies.
I played a NS drinking game watching this revisited playlist of I drink whenever Beau says something is “his favorite” or “the best” and I got lit
Lmao, I clicked so early, it was private. I was worried for a second. XD
Man I clicked so fast that the video kept saying error🤣
Hahaha Jaime pimp slapping the night king with a valyrian steel hand had me laughing out loud. It always bugged me that they didn't like attach a blade to his arm for combat roles, that's gotta be easier than using your left hand
I notice that this season, these episodes are now as long as a GoT episode. It's much better now
Love this episode. It’s the best of the season openers and a vastly underrated episode overall. The fight scene at the end with The Hound and Arya is one of the best action sequences in the whole series. Season 4 is my favorite.
Seriously though, not to downplay Bran's role in defeating the Night King, but imagine how amazing it would be for Jaime to defeat the NK. He's essentially a crippled knight that is on the road to redemption. Landing the killing blow on the NK with his left hand would save millions of innocents from death (again) by killing another King and restore his honor. It would just be so fucking poetic, man. Being called the Kingslayer after that would be a massive compliment.
Tywin is a great strategist. One of my favorite characters, and he commands respect.
The only thing that bothers me about this episode is how those swords are made. Pouring molten metal into casts would made shitty swords.
Yeah, I think it's more for the visual aspect. It Looks mint.
Maybe they just put on a show for Tywin, they're like, "twat standing there pretending he's following the process, _ahh, mhmm, yes of course please continue,_ you know nothing Tywin Lannister."
You don't think Catelyn kidnapping Tyrion started the war? Really? She knew who she was taking, she knew about Tywin. Ned tells her not to do anything reckless, and first thing she does, kidnaps the Queen's brother. Tywin's son. Stupid.
I mean Tywin invading the Riveralands started the war technically. By your definition of what starts a war it could be Cersei and Jaime throwing out the son of the Warden of the North out of a tower. Did they not know catelyn would work day and night to find out who did it? And charge those who conspired?
The point of Got is that causes are very long consequence
@@sansonefabio8177 Obviously they didn't think she'd find out. They assumed he'd die, and without proof, what could she actually do? On the other hand, very publicly capturing a famous man, loudly proclaim who he is and where you're taking him (lying about that) can't really be denied. Which is why Ned was immediately attacked.
@@Vanillastump capturing and putting for trial isn’t execution - catelyn didn’t need proof to begin a trial , Jaime Lannister should be smart enough to know it. Tywin could have easily pushed king Robert to free tyrion(as Robert wanted regardless). So by all of these points Tywin started the war by being offended he knew king Robert would let Tyrion off the hook regardless, Tywin has the crowns finances by the balls
Thank you! Someone that comes to the right conclusion about who was at fault . She was so dumb and in the way of what every man in her family was trying to accomplish.. shoulda kept her arse in the room with Bran and stfu .
Wow 👏🏻 actually uploading thanks guys 😂 This is my favorite series
13:13 a rapid rating indeed they are what six years old in season 7 and Drogon is the size of Caraxes who was born in a time with not much magic in the world and it took him 60 years to get to that size.
the 'eat the chickens' scene was one the baddest-ass scenes
Best scene ever
Perhaps the funniest line said by the Hound is “What I understand is that if anymore words come pouring out your c*nt mouth, I’m gonna have to eat every f***ing chicken in this room.”
@@mr.noride7226 lol i love badass lines and that's one of them!
Y'all are awesome!!! Yay! My day is totally made now!
I got a notification for this on my phone, and when I clicked on it, the video was set to private for some reason. I am able to view and comment on this from on my laptop, but not on mobile. Make A Path Presents (Ronny Haze) has a video about encountering this issue for some of his videos that he has posted as well.
Nerd Soup of Thrones Revisited Season 4 Episode 1-Tywins intro to this season is so bad ass!!!!!!!!!!!!
"even tho this shit slaps its not a one hit wonder" XDXD best way to describe reins of castamere
I love your discussion on Jamie's hand and now I hope this happens in Season 8:
Jamie pimp slaps the Night's King.
The Night's King says his first line: *"What the FUCK is your hand made of?!"*
I was thinking that the two swords are also about two sides of families. Tyrion vs Cersei and Jamie
Finally you guys have gotten to my favourite season😁
A great surprise to find after work.
Jamie was the only one of Tywin's children who did what he wanted and could tell Tywin no
I always thought it was essential that Daenerys spent so much time trying to rule in Meereen. It's a chance for her to get some real practice being a proper Queen before heading to Westeros to try doing it for real, like she wants to so badly.
People complain that it's a complete waste of time, that she's "spinning her wheels," for multiple seasons, but I disagree with that sentiment completely.
If she'd have set sail for Westeros while her Dragons were young, like after leaving Qarth or somewhere around then, she'd not only have most likely failed as a ruling Monarch in King's Landing by the 6th or 7th season, she probably wouldn't have even made it into the city to begin with.
It wasn't until after she had acquired her Army of Unsullied, her mounted Dothraki "Cavalry" and company of Second Sone sellswords, her Dornish and Ironborn Westerosi allies who helped her get her fleet of ships and her three full-grown Dragons that she was actually ready to set sail.
But most importantly she needed to actually LEARN how to be a Queen, not just a conqueror, for any of it to even matter in the first place.
And that's the opportunity she's given in Meereen, whether it took her a couple seasons to get ready or not.
Hell, she didn't even have her loyal Dothraki Hordes or fleet of ships until the end of season 6. So, all the pieces hadn't quite fallen into place yet anyway. That's not "spinning your wheels" in my book, that's making DAMN certain you're actually ready before taking that first step.
Because if you're not, all that hard work and preparation is meaningless. 👍😊
I love when brienne uses it in the fight in feast
Oathkeeper shreds, moves faster, seems to increase her skills by a lot
It's a good example of how good they are
Lighter and faster but still strong and sharp
the Dire Wolf collects it's due while the boys sing around the fire....don't murder me...
Yes- Brienne is physical strength, Olenna intellectual & Marjorie is beauty & charm all ways to get what you want in this world. They should’ve let Tommen & Marjory rule that’d have been the best for the realm IMHO lol (Renley would have been a good King too!)
Margaery did die surrounded by dead sparrows though... subtle foreshadowing. (edit: 26:30)
Spoiler warning season 7 😋 And bare with me I'm not a woman of few words.
I'm just rewatching this episode (and the whole series for the 6th time or so 😀) and something stood out to me in the following scene...
Jamie is back and gets his golden hand fitted by Qyburn. Then Qyburn and Cersei talk briefly before he leaves. She thanks him for helping her with "the other matter" and says her symptoms have gone completely when he asks if she feels better. Some episodes ago Olenna told Tywin that Cersei wasnt a good match to marry Ser Loras because she is too old and her change will come soon. Now putting two and two together I thought... Wait a minute. Maybe she starts experiencing menopause symptoms for which Qyburn gave her a remedy. Also she pushes Jamie away when he makes advances towards her and says not now and that he came back too late. Although I don't know how she would have wanted to have another child with him at this point in the story but it would fit into the theory that it's part of why she is mad at him so what the hell let's say it's another clue. 😋
And on a more current note... that would mean she couldn't be pregnant years later in season 7.
I mean I didn't believe her to be pregnant anyway and thought saying it was just tactics to keep Jamie close and loyal. But this could be a clue for us watchers. This just really got stuck in my head right now. Maybe it's total bs haha or it's already a theory and I'm just late to the party. Anyway I needed to stop and write it down for my fellow tinfoil hat wearers. ^^
Or maybe she had a bit of a rumbly tummy who knows lol.
The hand moves🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣So funny
Thanks Nerds. 👍
The girl in grey with the black hair during Olenna and Margery’s jewellery scene looks like it could be Mira Forrester from the Telltale game. At around 26:24
Rob never did lose. Tywin, if you believe his reply to Arya when asked if he ever lost, insinuated that he's never lost a battle.
well he did lose that one time lol
No Arya asked Tywin if he had lost a war
Shut up dude!
War and battle theres an diffrence when someone asks that HAVE YOU EVER LOST AN WAR!
I think people give Tyrion too much leeway when it comes to Shae. She might be in the wrong about how she's handling it but she's right about his unrealistic expectations of their relationship and what it'd eventually turn into.
My reading of his scenes with Sansa mixed with his relationship with Tywin ultimately end with him trying to make it work with Sansa. He's essentially stringing Shae along and lying to both himself and her.
Ving Rhames --I think he does love Shae but he cares for Sansa but it can’t be more than that as long as Shae is there. Where is deluded is thinking Shae would go quietly away and whatever kindness he could ever show, Sansa will never get over she’s just a hostage.
One thing that pisses me off is nobody remembers Tysha Tyrion's first wife, Tywin orders his guardsmen to rape her, while tyrion was forced to watch all this happen to her, then after that messy scene tywin forces his son to pay her as if she was a whore. This is Tyrion's first love and it was destroyed so brutally by his own father, this motives tyrion for a good reason beside then killing his own father.
@@Brandonhayhew It was mentioned in the show, Tyrion told Shae and Bronn during a drinking game.
Tyrion's first situation with his wife makes his relationship with Shae all the more reckless, imo. If, in the show, he's still not aware that Tysha actually did love him and wasn't paid then he's risking the same thing happening all over again.
You can't help who you love but you can sure choose to not put them in a dangerous situation.
I think it's personally a 'having cake and eating it too' kinda thing that gets obscured by how badly he's treated. He doesn't have to be there, he wants to be there. He's certainly crushed under the weight of his father but his desperation to be acknowledged by people who despise him and whom he despises cloud his judgement.
Nice to hear Marissa, where's she been at for these???
Jamie is right about Sansa probably being the safest in kl with Tyrion as her husband because her parents and her older brother are all murdered, they know nothing of her younger siblings and he knows that Lysa Arryn is not the best woman, like when Cersei points out to lf that after Lysa's death when he calls her kind, she calls him out on his bs and tells him that she was neither of those things. Ofc, Jamie is still not fulfilling his vows, he could confront his family about their monstrosity but he doesn't because he's back in his comfort zone, with no terror looming near. What bugs me the most about him is when people say that he's a great guy and what not is that, he decides to stand with his family day after day even when they're all horrible. He was supposed to protect Elia and her kids but he never confronts Tywin that they could have been imprisoned instead of being killed. Ned Stark was absolutely right, he served when serving was easy, that's literally all he does until he meets Brienne.