SPIDER-MAN 3 Breakdown - The HIDDEN MEANING That Makes It GREAT
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Spdier-Man 3 is hated, but great! In this video we break down the hidden meaning of the movie that everyone else missed.
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Written by Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Randolf Nombrado, Brianna McLarty, and Jeffrey Binet
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Without Spider-Man 3, there's no Bully Maguire! And without Bully Maguire, there's nothing!
We wouldn't have peter dancing
Never hated Spider-Man 3, but also never loved it as much as the first 2. This video honestly did present a lot of depth that I completely missed. Time for a rewatch.
Can you please make a video list of movies that need to be watched before Dead pool 3
I really need to go to the bathroom
Can you do a review on the PUNISHER from 2004
Never understood the hate for this film. It remains one of my favorites.
It’s nice that Tobey Spider-Man addressed the ending of his character arc in No Way Home!!
I understand how rich this movie is in symbolism. But with them greenlighting Venom’s look and Eddie’s rushed execution, I will never grant this as being good. If they skipped Venom, made the Symbiote Red, and did Carnage instead, I could take this as its own thing. But this was a terrible Venom (My favorite Spider-Man character other than Spider-Man) and I will not forgive Raimi or Sony for it.
I do love this fun to pieces but I do understand alot of the criticisms it gets
Great vid
I actually like Spider-Man 3
Anyone who thought this movie was good for any reason should check themselves into a pych ward
Eddie Brock literally prayed for Peter's downfall.
Spider-Man 3 is absolute perfection. It's the movie that evokes every single emotion from me. It has everything. The writing, the action, the comedy, the horror, the messages, the marketing, the merchandise, the toys, the world as this film came out, everything about this film. It's my favorite movie of all time, and nobody can convince me otherwise. I love the holy trilogy as a whole, but Spider-Man 3 really needs people like us. It was never a bad or even mediocre movie, just seriously misunderstood. I can write about my love for Spider-Man 3 for days and days. It's been 6,111 days since it came out, and there hasn't been a single day where I haven't even thought about it. I even have my opening day ticket. This movie is my everything.
Well said bro
I really enjoyed Spiderman 3, and it has always been higher on my list than on most people's lists! I love it because it has so much heart and the well acted character arcs get me in the feels. That forgiveness scene is really powerful.
What do you think of Spider-Man 3?
Underrated
All of Sandman’s scene are amazing
To me, it was rushed.
@@Bubonic32 exactly plus the scenes were the Symbiote starts to take over Peter I really like those scenes as well.
Mixed feelings
"I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye." *- Bully Maguire*
Right off the bat: a movie with hidden meanings does NOT make it great. We’ll see how I feel after I watch the video, but I don’t know how you can convince me that the movie is great. Mind you, I’ve seen it 20+ times with my son.
Done watching. The themes, messages, some plot points I can get behind as being great. However things like the terrible lines, bad acting, and emo Peter still drag it down.
Yeah he conveniently left that part out lol
Movies aren't popularity contest. It's something to enjoy watching. For example, the Cat in the Hat movie is bad, but it's still enjoyable to watch.
Hey, my mom can't tell what a bad movie is next to a good one, either. No shame. 🤙
I love this series of videos. Keep it up. Editor's cut of number 3 is worth a look
The Year is 2032, and Ryan Arey has just made a video on how the Rise of Skywalker is actually great, and the phrase "somehow palpatine returned" was actually brilliant.💀💀💀
Hahahah I can see this happening
Well how the prequels were then when releasing to compared to now
The sequels will have the same effect
Lmao
Somehow.
Somehow, Palpatine returned
The Fredo of the series. Lmao 😂😂😂 it’s true tho, 3 broke my heart.
I actually love this movie and have seen it numerous times.
It’s so cool to see an austrian product on your channel!
And I absolutely loved SM3 back then when I was only about 12 years old. And still it’s one of my favorite Spidey-Movies, and this was the first Eddie Brock I‘ve 'met' so I was totally happy with him, I like the idea of Peter and Eddie mirroring each other.
You are right, It’s very cool tho see an Austrian Product on his Channel. I even live near Vienna :)
2024 we got ScreenCrush Gaslighting us into liking Spiderman3
There's a lot of gas in that light too.
I hate to be that guy but I just watched it recently. I always like to maintain it was the terrible one, but pound for pound, it has as many good scenes as the first one. Which also has plenty of terrible stuff. 🙃
We? Speak for yourself, a lot of people enjoyed the film
Love spider man 3!
I don’t know where to put this but I just wanna say I wish Marvel would stop nano suits. Their helmets disappearing and coming back is just plain lazy.
I remember when I took my then 10 year old son to see this in the theater I was rather amazed at what a good movie it was. When we came home my wife asked how the movie was. I told her it was a powerful movie about redemption and forgiveness. She laughed, but my son said, "No mom, it really was."
Please everyone watch the Editor’s Cut of Spider-Man 3! It is a much better movie. Scenes are cut, added, and rearranged to make a much more cohesive and compelling story. I can’t recommend it enough.
I hadn't ever seen this Spiderman so I didn't know the deal with Flint being Ben's real killer. If that's the case why doesn't it come up in No Way Home? He tells Peter 1 that he wanted his uncle's killer dead and he got what he wanted, alluding to the original criminal that died. I'm confused...
Excellent video. Just showing this film's greatness.
What other movies are Hated but Great?
Madame Web.
Morbius.
Speed Racer 2008.
Welll this has become a joke thread.
Cars 2
Colton Ogburn writes the best episodes for Screencrush! 👌
Spider-Man 3 truly is the best. I’ve always known this. In terms of where you take the story that feels natural & real & satisfying, this is what it looks like. Venom is only in it for a few minutes? Who cares. Peter has an arc, Edward Brock has an arc, it all fits. Too many villains? They all support the main theme of forgiveness. If you stop looking at it like a super hero movie & judge it as just a movie, you’ll see that it’s a solid & satisfying movie.
I could go on but I digress.
I totally agree, but I think that it's great as a super-hero movie as well.
Nah ryan you dropped the ball this time bro reachfest
Yall have been dropping some great videos lately. I like this format/concept! 👏🔥
It always makes me laugh when they cut back to Harry chuckling at Peter 😂😂😂. It was like he was saying in his head “TUH!! Look at this f$@@?! Chump” lmfao.
would love to see an alternate - timeline / variant / multiverse
of
peter and harry
teaming up together xþ
I'm in the campy that really enjoyed Spider-Man 3. My only complain would be drop Goblin 2, and have Sandman switch sides and have him help Peter beat Venom. I thought for sure there was going to be a moment at the end, when Sandman would be pounding on Spider-Man, but then sees his daughter in the crowd watching him.
As for Venom/Peter- you weren't suppose to like him! So yeah, all those scenes were great!
Despite how people feel about Spider-Man 3, this is still one of my favorite spider man films. Loved this movie as kid. More than Spider-Man 2 even though that movie is perfect. I even had the video game and the final battle scene toy set. Seeing a black suited spider man as a 7 year old had me jumping for joy. So many iconic moments from this movie that has aged like fine wine🔥
Thank you for shining light on this great film🖤
This will always be my favorite Spoderman movie.
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (Who is also directing VENOM 3)
MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB)
And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT
AVI ARAD doomed this cinematic universe
MADAME WEB is doomed as well, despite not having Arad's involvement
Avi Arad: "Put Venom. It sells more toys."
Sam Raimi: "But I have everything planned out already. If I put Venom, it will be too crowded."
Avi Arad: "I don't care. Put Venom."
Sam Raimi: "But..."
Avi Arad: "Put Venom or I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes."
Sam Raimi: "Okay, you want Venom? I'll give you Venom!!! Ashole."
Enjoying this series, but this was a better case than Quantummania. The film I think is great but my family hates is Highlander - if you want to get really old school. Sticking to superheroes, it would be interesting to tackle Thor 2 or Ang Lee's Hulk.
What a beautiful interpretation of the film. Good job
When people say "EVERYONE HATED THIS MOVIE"... who is EVERYONE because I loved this movie!!! They never ask me. We are just expected to HATE or LOVE something because the majority of people love or hate it thats literally being a sheep.
I am not a sheep.
Spider-Man 3 is one of a few Superhero Movies Guilty Pleasures!!!
I think it's a near perfect end of this Trilogy!!!
Once you see it as Peter Paker's Ego as the main Villian throughout the Movie it's so much Clearer!!!
Also do Thor: The Dark World Hated but Great!!! *That is my main Guilty Pleasure of a Superhero Movie*
I really like Topher Grace but 17 years ago Venom should of been played by a much bigger guy. Today movie characters being different from the comic is a dime a dozen. Back in ‘07 comic movies were just starting. Venom isn’t a little guy regardless who’s hosting.
Hated But Great suggestions:
Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions
Just watched them again recently and appreciated them for their risk and philosophy messages
Hidden meaning of the original StarWars Trilogy PLEASE!
All these biblical references and breakdowns now makes Spider-Man 3 make sense but it’s how the movie runs, where it’s just connivence for the plot, that is where the dislike comes from. A meteorite crashing to earth may symbolize a cool shooting star from a biblical reference, but it’s also incredibly convenient how it latches to the scooter of the person who just happens to be the only person with superpowers.
Additionally in Spider-Man 1 Norman Osborn becomes pressured by the possibility of Oscorp having critical funds pulled that he administers the super enhancer drug on himself and it turns him into the green goblin. In Spider-Man 2 Dr. Otto Octavious uses the mechanical arms to assist him in creating something that would benefit humanity beyond measure but something goes wrong during the experiment and the arms take control of his brain and he becomes Doc Oc. Both of these are interesting and believeable character building moments that make the respective villains morally complex with some redeeming qualities. In Spider-Man 3 Flint Marco is randomly on the run from police in a scene and falls into a supercollider. This is not believable and is far less interesting. Kinda reminds you of an another character that falls for an incredibly simple reason into something sciency-looking where he gets his powers, from another poorly received Spider-Man movie. Some would call that movie ‘amazing’.
Spider-Man 3 just has scenes that happen for the sake of the plot progressing which is something that the first two movies didn’t struggle with. This was a great video and I didn’t know/never noticed most of the cool things that were pointed out but Spider-Man 3 really just still is a mess of a movie.
I always loved this movie, I actually griped an the new composers score, saw it in theaters 6x. Good fkng movie, not perfect, I know, but still
Does anyone else feel like this Aunt May absolutely knew that Peter was Spider-Man? If she was trying to act ambiguously....she didn't do it well.
It would have been much more impactful if Peter put MJ in the hospital with that backhand slap.
That's some serious logic gymnastics.
The issues with the movie are not the overall plot points, it's the dialog, character design, out of character moments to serve bad subplots, etc.
Anyone can justify larger plot points as being good, since that's usually what's good at the beginning of making a movie anyway.
Great work here. I also enjoyed this film despite the flaws. This is a very good analysis. Also appreciate the way you depicted the bible. I'm a christian so I'm very used to people misrepresenting things in the bible in things like this. You did a great job pulling out these biblical themes from the movie.
I love Spider-Man 3 but Venom is what ruined it for me. The fact that Sony forced Raimi to use Venom when he didn't want to is such a major f*ck up
I love this! One of the papers I wrote to get my M.Div was about religious iconography as cultural shorthand in comic media
Without Spider Man 3 there will be no Peter Parker Dancing in the streets in a suit meme. Also we in the first 3 Spider Man movies we the OG Spidey Suit.
Did you know the guy that plays Eddie Brock thought he was playing Carnage and he misunderstood that he was playing venom that's why his character acted a lot like Carnage
I will die on the hill that Spider-Man 3 is a top 3 Spider-Man movie ever made and is one of the most over-criticized films ever made. Similar to BVS (tho better), I’d say the theatrical version was good w flaws, but the director’s cut is what truly makes the film amazing.
Spiderman 3's ending should have been peter fighting with the symbiote and as its end creduts brock becoming venom. Then spider man 4 is vs venom.
you should make a video fo the 7 sins. Maybe watch the first 2 seasons of 7 deadly to tie. itto some anime?
I grew up defending Spider-Man 3, and I’ll defend amazing Spider-Man 2 forever thx
Yeh I was a tween when this came out & I absolutely loved it. I never understood why it got so much hate until later on. the comparisons & parallels you explained in this video only makes me love this movie even more. Sure it’s not as good as the 2nd but it’s still a good one
2 separate movies wasted not only one of Spider-Man’s greatest villains the sandman, but they wasted one of best castings
This movie will always be goated. I watched this movie so many times as a kid, just as much as any other batman movie in the early 2000s
I saw this in theaters in 2007 and it was one of the first films I thought was meh. But this video has really made me look at it differently. Makes me miss the Raimi Spideys even more
I hate to say it, but seeing yall comic TH-camrs fall from grace is sad man. This movie ain’t no 7 sins 🤣
One thing they should have changed the should have made Harry Osborne become Hobgoblin
It's both the worse of the Raimi Spiderman movies and one of the best Spiderman movies, both of those things are true, but I think that says more about how the other Spiderman movies are not very good
Spider-Man 3 is better than all TASM movies and homecoming and far from home
Loved the film when I first saw it back in 2007 and I still love it today. No way it deserved all the hate.
Even though Tobey Maguire was a little cringe, I still like the movie a lot and think it still holds up
Hated but great? How about underrated and seldom talked about, the TV show Fringe.
This movie is great seeing NWH. Even the two Andrew Spider-Man makes it ten times better
I feel like there’s a revisionist conspiracy to make this movie great and I’m not falling for it. 😂
What do you mean hated?
I mean seriously if you're under 35 do you hate every single movie ever made?
Personally I don't hate this film like everyone else does but I don't think it's great either.
Awesome analogy.
People say that Harry's amnesia was a way to get him out of the "way"
I think that the writers should have done something else than that
I love this movie. I don't care what they say. It's a great ending for the Osborne saga. ❤
0:07 I'd tell you, you're reachin so fuckin hard you in your shoe buy now 😭😭😭.
Emo Parker aside and in my opinion the not so great portrayal of venom, it’s not that bad of a movie at all.
One of my favorite videos of yours been defending Spider-Man 3 for so long
This movie gets a lot of hate for a few cheesy lines. “Strawberries”
Green Lantern, putting aside its CGI, it was a good movie. It had a good cast. The story wasn’t bad. By having Hal use his powers in a more light hearted way, it was Reynolds. It set up for a contrast with other Lanterns to come. They using their powers in a different way maybe even a darker way, where Hal could show that light hearted ways of handling situations has its place and can bring hope. Not every movie needs to be gritty and overly serious, just being fun can be enough. I know it’s a low bar but compared to some of the JLA movies that followed it was better.
Maybe don’t have an ad right before the end of the video? Maybe it’s just me
Spiderman 2 was so good. Glad he caMeback in no way home
The Devil wasn't a character in the Hebrew Bible. It was a retcon.
The only reason it didn't turn out as well was because Sony had to interfere
Love seeing these when I open TH-cam. Thank you screen crush
Interesting.....ive.never thought about the movie this way
The Matrix franchise. Tron franchise. Terminator franchise
How much percent discount? You scammers 🤣
I actually loved this movie. Nostalgia hits hard but I still think it holds up. The rami trilogy is my favorite Spider-Man (live action)
Topher Grace should have never been Venom. Period. I don't care if Raimi wanted to draw a parallel between him, and Tobey Maguire. Don't do it at the expense of what makes the character so imposing to begin with.
I can forgive literally everything else.
I still blame AVI ARAD for destroying Sam Raimi's ambition
Avi Arad, Kevin Feige and Sony are all to blame.
The Tobey Maguire's Spiderman movies are my favorite! With Tom Holland coming in 2nd(didn't really like the 2nd movie)...we don't talk about Andrew Garfield.
Garfield is far better than Ironman junior and his capitalist propaganda garbage
Whaaaaaaah Andrew has a great set of Spiderman movies. The way he moved was like an actual spider the way he embodied Peter was jumping off the comics. His suit🤌🏿🤌🏿🤌🏿. I just didn’t care for his villains too much but tasm set was great
Ironman junior and his capitalist propagandas are garbage
Right? I understand ranking them, but I don't understand how you can be like here's Toby and here's Tom But Andrew's stuff was just so wildly left field terrible we don't even talk about it? To each their own. 🎉