I looked all over for actual reviews on this and finally struck gold, gonna sub, and go through your videos to find a decent power bank, looking to charge fairly small radio control aircraft batteries on the go and I want something that can actually provide constant power delivery. Thank you for all you do.
Wish I found this channel sooner! Awesome coverage & the breakdown in actual voltages/cells (peeped other thumbnails showing it) is profoundly valuable!
haha, yeah I saw that. I figured there was an update by now, haven't done one in months on that device. The software is always the issue with cheap testers. Even on the Siglent gear, so many bugs.
I'd really love to see an eventual video of all the power banks directly compared on if they can support a UPS-like operation. It's not their primary use, true. But they look good as on-the-go external batteries for something like a sub 65w mini-PC. You're one of the only people that went over data crucially noting that some of the USB ports will reset if another port has a change.
Yeah, from what I've done the UGREEN and ZMI will stay on with a power cut, but you can draw more than you put in so caution is needed. I plan to put out a video on some of the purpose made low voltage UPS's at some point.
Wow! Thank you so much for this video! Learned so much today! That new marketing tactic is sneaky - slow clap to business + tech. Though I also appreciate you ending on a positive note. Given the cons, if you can get these on a much lower price, they are not bad. Importantly, they are safe power banks.
1000 wh / 1000 = 1 kWh which is true. 1 kWh / 1000 = 0.001 Wh which isn't true. I think? I could be wrong. The Wh is 1000 times smaller, so 1000 watt hours is 1 kilowatt*hour.
Thanks for the detailed video! Went with Ugreen for my Steamdeck as it only charges at 45W. Was cheaper on sale and the shape of the Anker is an absolute dealbreaker for me when travelling.
I have been waiting for this review! Anker states this bank supports dual input charging up to 170W on their website: "170W Fast USB-C Recharge: Recharge your power bank at lightning speed with the convenience of dual USB-C ports, allowing you to fully replenish it in just 37 minutes." I did not see that tested nor it mentioned in one way or another. Can you test that capability? I love my two Anker 737 banks(got 1 for free). With the MASSIVE battery(99.6Wh) in my Apple MBP 16" M2 Max, the additional capacity of this new bank calls to me. Is it worth it? Sounds like the 737 has more accurate display information(100% actually means 100%?), but you mentioned this new one does 140 power delivery MUCH better than the 737. What does that mean exactly?
The Anker 737 requires a break after discharging the entire battery at 140W. AllThingsOnePlace said during the 140W discharge test he had to wait for 1 hour before the powerbank would let him charge it again. The Prime 27,650mAh powerbank, however needs no such break. It can output 140W and recharge at 140W all day long with no overheat
I have tested it as well. Can be recharged at 170 watts in 37 to 40 minutes, NO PD 3.1 REQUIRED!! you just need some multiport 200w+ charger to get this to work. Ugreen nexode 200w and 300w will work with this. Wotobeus 200w charger will also do the trick. you could also hog up two wall outlets and then plug two 100w PD 3.0 chargers with two 5 amp cables and it will also work. It'll just split the charge 20v 4.25a + 20v 4.25a
Did you verify PPS on the faster C port? The manual indicates PPS on the input (That rail is what the Anker 100W charging base pin input uses), but not on the output. Output looks like standard USB PD rails. Additionally, did you test the 170W dual port charging mode on the Anker, using 2 140W chargers?
On the Anker, I did verify PPS output at 100W and it worked no problems, only on the faster port. I didn't try dual adapter charging, not sure how that would work. If you have one try it and let me know how long it takes to finish charging, remembering the built in screen doesn't actually tell you when charging is done.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Dual adapter charging means you can plug two chargers into both C ports to charge even faster. According to JCKRGB's video, it even works with two adapters with different voltages.
9:26 the efficiency numbers do not seem to be ok. A1340 is correct however the other two maybe mixed up somewhere. UGreen = 100*77.5Wh/97.6Wh = 79% so the number including charging. for the Anker 737 it is 100*72/95.8WH= 75%
@@AllThingsOnePlace oh yeah sorry my bad, understand now! Ah great way to look at it also. And great content, so many reviewers take the wrong turn and multiply a fixed (assumed) output voltage times the measured mAh instead of real measured Wh. in some reviews the worst performing low voltage with constant current score the best. Also DC-DC constant I vs constant P load mistakes. But all looks very good here!!! GREAT
I wonder if Anker is showing 100% battery early to halp save the life of the battery. I know some auto makers are now putting in extra battery capacity that is only made available as the battery degrades
I stumbled into this channel looking for power bank reviews for my steam deck, but stuck around for the interesting science. It's been months and I still haven't bought a single power bank btw.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceI'm trying to promote your channel on TH-cam Facebook Instagram, even getting spam comment strikes for promoting you but people need to know there is finally a awesome technical testing channel for chargers & Power Banks. Thanks again for the channel & all the hard work put in. ⚡️🔋🔌⚡️
I really want someone to open up this power bank. I just received mine and was surprised to see the 3950mAh*7. I would think that means that it does not use 6 2170 cells like the 737. The past Anker power banks I’ve used have had pretty accurate representations of how the cells are positioned in the pack in marketing material compared to teardown videos, and the Anker 250W battery is the first to showcase pouch styled cells in the marketing material that I know of. This would seem like the first time Anker didn’t use cylindrical cells which I presume is for better volumetric density. Thanks for this amazing and thorough test. It did almost reach the claimed 240W for 2 USB C ports. I wished you went ahead and added a USB A device just to max it out because using all 3 ports is when Anker claims 250W. I did figure out how to turn off that USB A output by putting it on the base and pressing and holding the side button. Can’t figure out how to turn it off without the dock😅.
Yeah, that makes sense on the power bank size matching the 737. Interesting way to get the port to turn off! I would not have gone through that much trouble to figure it out. Thanks!
Ugreen released an upgraded version of this powerbank that supports PD 3.1 on USB-C and claims to have 140W output on that one... I wonder if anything else changes, e.g. efficiency
Could you also check the protocol they manage (with a USB tester) and charging speed reached on a few electronic devices (like an iPhone, a Galaxy S24 Ultra and a MacBook)?
My Anker Prime 250W will pull another 20Wh after it says 100% while charging. Running the latest firmware of 1.4.7. They appear to have deliberately set 80% as 100%. The question is why?
Same I have the new Ugreen 145w and it works fine I've never had issues with it. On the older 145w Ugreen for the C1 Port it says 100w, USB-A 18w, C2 45w. On the new one it says C1 is rated for 140w, USB-A 22.5w, C2 65w.
@@AllThingsOnePlace will you make video outta them after you check it tho? I hope to see what the current product can do :( i was thinking about ZMI on Ugreen and went for Ugreeen feels bad I should’ve seen ur video first :(
Please review / test the Omnicharge Power Banks - Omni 20+ 220v & Omni 20C+. I find your video's absolutely outstanding and I'm just dying to know if these Omnicharge devices (one of which has DC out) are worth the premium. Thanks for your work on these tests too.
+1 The UGREEN Nexode 25000 mAh 200 W is similar to this Anker Prime 27650 mAh. The UGREEN is more affordable, no app, no Bluetooth and slightly lower capacity on paper. I'm interested in knowing about the battery technology in terms of durability, that is, how many cycles can withstand each of these powerbanks.
Can you look at the V Mount style batteries from Smallrig, Newer etc? They all have USBC, USBA as well as come with DC out on a DC plug socket. They are normally used for powering cameras, but can be used for charging almost anything. They are 'chunky' looking but has excellent info screens.
I'm so confused, I found a listing on the UGREEN UK site with the same exact SKU of 90597A. But this one says its PD 3.1 capable with a max single output of 140W. Can't find it on Amazon though.
Can you test it? Standby power my thing about these power banks is that I carry them along period of time and haven’t used them but when I need to, I want to make sure that the standby time will. The amount of power is still there.
I can't test that within reason without destroying the product. You need to cut the battery out and measure the current leaving the battery. I can say modern Anker power banks tend to lose charge with all the smart features.
Love to see a head to head comparison of the Anker A1340 Prime Power Bank, 27,650mAh 250W and the 737. In your scoring sheets, there are fewer modes on the A1340 (9 vs 11 on the 737, I think) and I don't understand the discharge rate alt column on the sheet. Enough subtle differences to be interesting, IMHO.
I'll add some more background at some point, that mess is more of a collection of thoughts. The discharge rate column is basically notes. It can probably go away. But yeah, um, this video does the head to head comparisons to the 737?
@8:53 some other guy who has a video on this anker powerbank shows clearly in-video that it was charging while also having an output! How's that? Maybe it's an in-app option?
Do you do a rated capacity test? Many of the powerbanks has this listed in specs. I think I saw the UGreen with 14500mAh. This seems to done at 5V so seems like a good real world test to test useable battery capacity and dc dc converter efficiency before bms switches off. This would be relatively easy standardised test to do on all powerbanks. Great test you have to done show UGreen doesnt stand up to high discharge rates. Keep up the good work.
Everyone does it differently. The voltage would only be part of the equation. I don't only use the 5V setting test since it's unfair to some and would make others look great. What I do instead is a full load and a partial load test on larger power banks, and the 5V or 9V test on a smaller power bank representing a typical phone as the load. It is a time balance thing too. I'd do more testing but spending days testing power banks for a couple extra data points that will only give you a small amount more information does not seem a worth while trade off.
Fantastic review and technical expertise! Please do Lencent brand travel adapter review, they come with various pins and have different models 45,65,100w. They seems decent.
What makes the Prime 27650mah so much more efficient compared to it's smaller 20000mah brother? Is it the difference in cell numbers, higher quality components?
Cell numbers, structure can make a difference. Topology, control, and components all matter as well, not necessarily higher quality but more engineered.
After using it for a few weeks I will say this is by far my favorite bank to use. I have a bunch of oppo/oneplus devices that use Supervooc (proprietary charging tech) and this is the only battery I’ve seen that does the full 65w that US supervooc allows. Also the app (while questionable) is undeniably a great feature. Minimal battery drain (according to Anker it’s .12mw per hour or so because it uses BT LE)….don’t know if it’s accurate but my favorite feature is a find my battery feature. Anker definitely hit a home run too. Also it’ll fast charge with huawei, ROG 80w, QC5, and most other fast charge standards as well from what I’ve seen (a bit of a tech hoarder here)
ha, yeah, I'm a lab equipment hoarder but also acquire too much tech, so much I made a channel out of it. Thanks for the reporting on devices and uses for this though. I don't have any Vooc or related devices to test with so I always skip that part. I think the ZMI no20 also has this feature but you have to use the 'special' USB A to C cable that comes with the power bank.
@@AllThingsOnePlace technically speaking supervooc as a charging standard is better than PPS, QC5, and Samsung fast charge just due to the way Chinese manufacturers like oppo, huawei, OP, Vivo design their phones. Unlike with most devices that use one continuous battery cell most of the Chinese phones use dual cell so they can charge 2x+ as fast (120w or higher in some cases) and because it’s two cells they actually age slower than a single cell battery (oneplus rates around 1600 cycles) and they seem to charge at full speed even with screen on (thermal limitations apply). Tested the 250w with oppo, huawei, vivo, oneplus, and a few others. I can confirm that power IQ 2 usb A will supply faster charging than usb c on the same battery….averaging 18-28w for usb c vs 40-65w on usb A. Not sure what Anker is doing but it’s working. Just a little bit of information I felt would be useful
I haven't tested it personally, but some have reported the UGREEN working. The ZMi is also the one I've seen that supposedly supports that mode specifically with the supplied USB A to C cable. I don't have a way to test it though.
You're correct. The ZMI should work. Like most other brands -- Xiaomi's proprietary charging tech is a mess, so depending on the Ugreen, it is unlikely to charge at its best. However, for Xiaomi phones, to be safe you should buy a CukTech powerbank. They're on top of the game in terms of supporting Xiaomi's proprietary charging. I think they're related to ZMI or something.
@@mixout27 That's even better. Using a 120w ZMI powerbank to charge your 67w Xiaomi phone won't be a problem at all. Your phone would only draw the wattage that it requires, which in this case is 67w max.
That's a trick. It's all nominal voltage, so it's all estimations. I noticed brands that want to claim a little more energy will say 3.85 v nominal. It's all the same battery. Some say 3.65 to under estimate a little. The majority goes with intervals of 3.7. Some tool manufacturers go with intervals of maximum voltage just to make number more bigger. The proper method is to integrate over the full charge, discharge cycle several times to get a full energy profile. I would like to do this for devices too, but it will be a while before I get into that.
I purchased the Anker one with a huge sale. I confess I did not need it (I’m generally rarely out of juice) but I was curious to have the shiny gadget. I also purchased the base station on sale which makes also it a fun gadget (the base is also a power hub so it was not that a bad deal even if it does not negotiate well with some things). The pair looks cool and I was surprised that the magnet was so strong. The battery does feel and looks great. It works also very well at 100w without much heat. However do we really need all these fancy display and BT features ? I doubt it and they are more potential points of failure. So even if it works well, we overpay (even on sale) for a small « geek » pleasure. :)
Yeah, the display and BT are certainly gimmicks. But yeah, I think it is more about the fun of it. Very much in gadget territory and out of functional territory. I don't know about you but my next power bank needs chatGPT I think.
can you explain please why your chart states the anker can only charge a macbook 1 time? is this due to lost efficiency? Shouldn't a 27000 mah bank charge a laptop more than once?
Yes, charging efficiency plays a role, I use the output of the power bank not the capacity for the calculation, also I think I round down on the charts.
@@AllThingsOnePlace you're right! It's a little dissapointing on the charging efficiency, I wonder why battery banks tend to be so inefficient with that. Seems like unless you really spend for the high end ones it's usually under 80% efficient form the wall.
Very good video, finally some actual testing! Only issue is that you didn’t test the 2 cables 170W charging mode of the anker. It’s able to be charged at 170W if you plug in TWO cables for charging it, since it’s limited to 140W per port. Since you get to see very few devices with capabilities to be charged faster than 140W, it would be fun and useful to test it!
Did the 100W port turn off at 70% because both at the same time were overheating it? When would it turn to lower wattage if it was just the 100W output port working?
As tested, one port operation overheated it. I didn't check two port operation. The device didn't dynamically adjust so it kept trying to deliver full power, and immediately shutting down, restart, it'll deliver 100W, shut down quickly, so the power level never changed.
I'm still using my Satechi 165W, it is very efficient across it's range of charging and it doesn't get too hot if you need 100 watts, I regularly use it with four devices and haven't had any issues. But there are tons of variables so the one that works for me the best may not be for you. But opinion, Satechi 165W for a power brick. The ZMi no20, 210W edition, is the most feature rich and high capacity power bank I've tested, I took it on vacation with me and it held up great so that is my pick for that. It is big though. So, smaller, I'd go with the Evatronic 60W.
I really and truly appreciate your detailed response. I tried so many chargers that all seem to overheat. Anyway I will be trying out the items you told me about. I love your content keep up the amazingly outstanding work that you do because you are the standard that all you tubers should look up to 😎
Got this ugreen power bank for like $60 bucks around xmas time. Does what I need. Just got in the AOHI starship. Haven't even really got to use it yet. Hope you do a review on it.
I need a power bank to run a GoPro Hero 11 for 6 hours @ 4k 30 fps non-stop as a remote camera. I've tried multiple 20000 mAh power banks, but they all run out of power quickly -- as I believe the listed mAh is inaccurate. Any suggestions.
Yeah, so probably anything with over 75 Wh of available capacity. Something like the Iniu 25k. The camera shouldn't be using more than 5W, it would over heat if it did, so 5*6 = 30 Wh but times two for efficiency losses and a bit of safety factor, so 60 Wh.
How'd you get the big guy from Anker? I've been keeping an eye out for that one and haven't seen it on sale anywhere yet. The 20k and older 737 are good but I want the 27.5k 250w.
what is a charing meter? I have bought one of those SBAOH Portable power bank, can you also do a dismental video on these powerbanks we would love to see which batteries are inside
Not sure on the meter. I don't generally do teardowns of these as they are destructive and it is a time management issue. Also, I am not convinced believing a brand is better than another is provable or true.
Thank you for the great review, the USB-A port status is discharging with 0 watts while not connected to any device, I have the same issue with mine, which is very annoying to me, Do you have any recommendations? Thanks
So, this usually indicates low power mode is enabled on the Anker. It is supposed to turn off either automatically or with button pushes, but it was stuck on for mine. I let the power bank drain to zero and recharged it and then it wasn't enabled. This power bank has issues with idle power usage too.
Anker Prime 250W 27650 has received a big firmware update without a changelist. Could you please retest the power bank with the latest firmware and tell us the differences?
They can't change the power circuits. The USB protocol chips are ASIC's. They can change things like the display and cut off points for over temperature but the actual function won't change.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Hi, I understand that, but you said in the video that it displays 100% even though it's not and still charging for 30 min after. I was wondering if you can't fix this with a firmware update, after all the display of 100% percent is based on the voltage of the cells right?
I just bought one and on the listing it’s clearly marked that it can do 140 wats out of a single port so I hope that that’s correct and not 100w because I already have a powerbank that does 100w from basseus.
Hey man, im glad you did an in depth review of the ugreen, since I was looking at buying it. The only thing is you just lost me more here 😂 I would need a recommendation; I will be traveling in march and Im expecting to charge my phone (15 pro max) at least 3 times a day and maybe earbuds or smartwatch once but no laptop. Would you say the ugreen would be good for my use? Or would you recommend any other option? I just dont like anker’s form since I find it unpractical. Thank you so much and great video with great info!
On power banks it's rare for all manufacturers. I don't think it's really a requirement yet in that field. On things that plug in the wall, they have started to add it on newer products. I think before it was looked at as an unnecessary expense.
It appears the Anker Prime powerbanks are good looking, but so so technically. However, for simple charging of an iPhone 15 Pro Max, will they serve such a purpose or would you recommend something different? Cost isn’t the issue for me I just want it to work quickly and effectively.
The Prime 250W is a good power bank if you want a lot of energy. The zmi has been all over with me and held up so far. It's a bit big and heavy but I just see that as a challenge. These both have plenty of power for an iPhone and will be efficient and cool at those power levels.
They display 100% long before they are at 100% but could you characterize that? (Discharge it completely as soon as it hits 100% and measure the capacity vs discharge it once it has stopped charging)
I got the anker and base. I just liked how it looked and was surprised that it can display the time, haha. Wish they update it to not display in 24:00 format, though. I trust anker, and it does everything i need, so no complaints so far.
Great comparison, thank you! May ai have a question? I would like to ourchase a power bank to power my Lumix S5iix camera during outcoor shoots. Since I am streaming sometimes training session, longer than 1,5 hour, I need something whichcan safefly do that and not breaking the bank. What would ypu suggest to get? Thank you in advance.
It depends on what the camera needs for power. If it's only 5V and 1 or 2 amps, then these or nearly any power bank will do fine. If it needs something more, then figuring out how to power it, if it can negotiate PD modes or if you need an adapter... Then power consumption, so 10watts, then a 70wh power bank is going to get you 7 hours of runtime. In general I can get more than a full day on a gopro in timelapse with one of these but that is a pretty low power camera.
@@AllThingsOnePlace it is a Panasonic Lumix S5IIx. 9V, 3A, 27W is the minimum requirement for power supply for continuous power and needs PD capability.
Is the Anker cable really 240 W, though? I know it's 5 A in both cases but the cables that are rated for 100 W can carry 5 A too (20 x 5), so....I don't know what I'm saying but I felt like sharing.
I would like to use a Powerbank that allows me to play full spec on the ROG Ally (Turbo mode (I guess 30W TDP but it needs to be acting as if it is plugged in at 60-65W)) all the time. Is the fact that the UGREEN slows down after 70% to 50W an issue for this?
That could become an issue with the UGREEN. The ZMI can hold that power level for a full discharge. The Baseus blades should be able to hold that as well as the 60W Evatronic for some different shaped or more compact options.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I do also have a laptop asus g502du and use a dc to type c adapter , normally using a 65w pd charger is enough for it to use but not enough to charge at the same time. Charging wattage is 50w average max 65w on this laptop and my power consumption for the laptop is around 10-15wh do you think baseus blades can keep up with it or the ugreen 145w? btw another side question for when I am not charging my laptop but have a heavy usage. Which one is able to keep for longer at 100w baseus blades or ugreen 145w and they both shutdown when they get hot right no way of them to lower the wattage ? my adaptor is only for pd 100w so wont be benefiting 145w either way and the battery is rated for 78wh
About Ugreen's 145W power bank: How does one tell that it doesn't have Programmable Power Supply feature just by looking at the technical specifications on the box, user manual?
@@MeganCollins-up8ru No, please ask, I never know the technical level of people watching. A trigger board is an emulator for the various USB power delivery modes. Search for USB Decoy if you want to check one out.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThank you for your clarification. I'm touched that you took the time to answer my questions. To summarize: One can never tell if a power bank has the PPS feature just by going over the technical specifications provided by its manufacturer.
I need a powerbank in an application were it does not switch off, it has to power a LED lamp that has its own powerswitch. Do these powerbanks qualify?
You'd have to figure out how to make the power bank think you've plugged in a new device each time you flip the switch on the LED. These probably would work fine for a short duration but after a while, even in low power mode, they will turn off and not come back. Depending on what you need for power a more basic power bank might be better, USB A, keep the output active all the time.
Thanks for video. I'm using 25k 145W Ugreen for charging all my devices like notebook & phone while traveling and 12k 130W Anker prime for everyday use to charge the smartphone on the go.
Also having issues with wrong battery indication on that anker one. My power meter shows that it further fills 2-3k mAh after indicating 100%. Kinda bummer, great power bank overall (except blocky design, i prefer slim but wide one, easier to fit in backpack). Anker support says it might be because battery rebalance after charge, not sure how true is that (whopping 3k mAh for rebalance?). Still in talks with their support, but it looks like they just want to RMA. Interesting thing that anker app indicates firmware version on powerbank, so maybe can be fixed with future updates? Mine is 1.2.4.
Yeah, if it takes 3k mah for rebalance after one charge cycle, they have a dead cell in there already... I'm surprised they got into that detail on support though, but albeit conjecture. I am always surprised by the support they have reported here in comments. Don't forget to turn bluetooth off, the power bank goes flat fast if you leave it on.
@@AllThingsOnePlace i'm gonna try to drain it fully, shame i don't have some heavy load for that. Let's see what real capacity of mine is. Still wouldn't be surprised if it's just bad measurement on that power bank.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Ok, so i did full discharge test. My consumer was laptop that can consume 65w over type-c. It negotiated on 20v@3a (strictly speaking, 20.17v at 2.8-2.9a (fluctates a bit during charging) Voltage/Amps/Wattage readings were pretty close on both powerbank and meter (cheap one, not a professional hardware, but by my experience with it, fairly accurate for home usage). At runtime of 1:40 (fairly accurate estimate on anker display btw, according to my meter, it was almost the same minus 20 seconds), it pushed total of 93054 mWh, which correlates with your results of efficency. So i guess this is just measurement error in powerbank, not a dead cell?
@@AllThingsOnePlace i'll continue my talks with anker support and see if we can reach some conclusion. Will report if anything happens. Kinda sad to see such bug on otherwise terrific powerbank.
I don't know if you will answer, but I have a question. I have an Anker Prime250 product, but I don't know which charger to use to charge the Anker. I want to charge Anker Prime. Could you quickly recommend a charger of about 140w? 100w is also good. Of all the executives I know, you are the best. If you were you, which would you use between 140w and 100w to charge Anker? Is there one?
Hello. I do tend to reply a lot. Anyway. My typical choices for around 100 watts are the baseus gan3 desktop charger or the 100 anker prime power adapter. They’re both decent choices for charging that power bank. If you want to go faster 140w chargers are all kind of the same but basically anything will equally get the job done.
So I could use either of these to power my Akai keyboard (12v, 3amp = 36w) for a 3 - 4 hour gig? They're would be breaks to cool or recharge every hour or so
If it really uses 36 watts, then no, 36w*4hr=144wh < 80 or so wh available in the anker power bank. But I doubt it uses 36 watts they just over rate things as a safety factor. Also, you would need a PD trigger board to get 12V if the device isn't USB C PD capable already. You have to plug in the audio signal, plug in the power too.
@@AllThingsOnePlace interesting what you say about a trigger board - thanks, I'll look into that. I was thinking about a Usb-c to DC adapter. Either way, I certainly don't want to do anything that may jeopardize the keyboard. Cheers.
Edit: after a little research, I was hoping that the usbc would recognise the circuit as 12v/3a and provide power accordingly, but it may be that the protocol isn't there by default and a thingamabob needed to tell the own what power to push out?
I have a doubt about the ungreen 145w portable battery. I see you said it can't actually output 145w for a long time, so in that case, is it even worth it for the price? I just bought a drone, and i need a power bank since i only have one battery. I bought the ungreen thinking it was the better option since to charge the drone battery, a 65w charger is needed. I figured that since the ungrren has 65w on one port and 145w on the main port, this would be a wise investment for future uses. But i saw another portable powerbank that only claims outputvat 65w at half price. Would it have been better just to go with that one??? I just got the ungreen today, so u still have time to return it and order the other one, but i wanted your take first. Thanks!
65W should be sustainable. But yeah, I think there are better options. Iniu seems to have a good reputation and tested as stable for the ones I've looked at so far.
Between the ugreen 25k 145w for $41 vs the anker 737 for $131 as a power bank purely for a steam deck oled, is the ugreen my best choice price to performance wise?
During my testing the top of the power bank gets quite hot and seeing as though it shuts off at only 50 watts out, I think it overheats and in time I expect this could cause early failure.
Hey I wanted to use my Lab power supply to test some of my powerbanks, HOW do i set up a usb-c cable wired up from the lab PSU to the powerbank, do you need to have a load on the usb wires/cable or is it a straight connection with USB -C as new to usb c
@@AllThingsOnePlace Kinda knew wasnt straight forward. Would you consider doing a tutorial video on how your setup works or a guide on how to make a circut board to be able to use the lab supply ?
Probably one of the smaller power bank offerings, like a 10kmah from a decent brand. Try to avoid the pop up ones which just look like random strung together letters.
I'm not sure, it comes down to protocol supported mostly. The portable PC's won't use more than 60W so as long as the power bank can continuously provide that and the protocols are compatible between devices... Probably either of the ones in this video will work.
I usually will take two power banks. One large, like one of these, which are better for powering a camera all day, and one smaller one like the Iniu 15k or 10k which is good for a phone or other accessories.
I think they can push firmware updates on this one. Typically they can’t change the power supply behavior or usb negotiations. Those are handled on dedicated chips.
Hi, Sorry, why Anker 737 and ugreen 140w powerbank whit my Xiaomi 11t pro and my tablet honor X9 the quik charge Is slow whit this powerbank. Xiaomi 11t pro charge at 16w and Honor X9 charge at 10w. This device whit charger nexode pro 160w go at 70w and 22w. Whit the powerbank go very slow. Why? Thanks
@@ninnialoisio3578 I think the ZMI no20 has the ability to use the alternate power modes for charging but I don't have any devices to specifically test that. It comes with a USB A to C cable for those modes.
the 747 powerbank charged my phone at 17w and immediately dropped to 0.1w. then it went back up to 17w and dropped again to 0.1w. always like this, the watts went up and down. the ugreen 145w powerbank however remains stable at 17w. I don't know whether to keep the ugreen or reappear the anker 737 and send the ugreen back. I'm really sorry that I can't use fast charging with a power bank for my phone. I followed all your videos and I know you spoke well about the ZMI but unfortunately it isn't available in Italy.
Could you also test the UGREEN with 20.000 mAh100W please? Especially how it fares in comparison to the Baseus Blade HD, as both can be had for about the same price right now, thanks a lot, your reviews really are the best, precise and detailed!
@ interesting. Yeah that could be a possibility. He got it to function in and out at the same time which I thought was amazing!!! I wish my Omni charge 20 did that. It’s almost perfect except for that it can’t run uninterrupted. :/
With all the ones you've looked at, what is your recommendation for a powerbank around $100? This is such a rabbit hole lol. Would need to have PPS though. Thanks!
Yeah, it's a tough one, availability is also the question. The anker power banks tend to have PPS on the higher end of the market, but only meet the price point on sale (which they are often on), I'd think about the Iniu lineup. They're under the price point but have reasonably good ratings and performance.
Love to see actual equipment-tested reviews instead of videos where "reviews" are based on what specs the product boxes list. Cheers!
Thank you for the support, it keeps videos like this possible!
Great to see some actual testing on these, keep up the good work!
Thanks for helping support the channel!
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you are the person to go to when there is a power outage
At least for a few hours, then all my batteries will be flat.
6:58 plug a usb cable into both ports!! Like, the same cable. Both ends into both ports. It resets the power bank.
I have lots of batterys too and we have solarpanels i made a cable and a converter so i can charge my battery back up if needed
@@AllThingsOnePlaceso could you tell me what power bank should i buy i need efficient,high quality ,longest period of life
USB A to C cable. If you see the power "trip" three times, it will then turn off until you unplug
@@wwjoshdew
Finally a real critical scientific review and not a paid one.
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
I looked all over for actual reviews on this and finally struck gold, gonna sub, and go through your videos to find a decent power bank, looking to charge fairly small radio control aircraft batteries on the go and I want something that can actually provide constant power delivery. Thank you for all you do.
Thanks for watching! also glad to help!
What did you end up getting?
What did you get and are you happy with it?
Wish I found this channel sooner! Awesome coverage & the breakdown in actual voltages/cells (peeped other thumbnails showing it) is profoundly valuable!
thanks for watching.
6:11 dude. Have you updated to 1.8.3 firmware on that tester? I think it fixes the 100W issue where it shows that, but it’s charging faster than 100.
haha, yeah I saw that. I figured there was an update by now, haven't done one in months on that device. The software is always the issue with cheap testers. Even on the Siglent gear, so many bugs.
You are the guy I watch before buying any power bank or charger. You sum things up very efficiently my friends, thanks!
Thanks!
I'd really love to see an eventual video of all the power banks directly compared on if they can support a UPS-like operation.
It's not their primary use, true. But they look good as on-the-go external batteries for something like a sub 65w mini-PC. You're one of the only people that went over data crucially noting that some of the USB ports will reset if another port has a change.
Search for a "no break" power bank
Yeah, from what I've done the UGREEN and ZMI will stay on with a power cut, but you can draw more than you put in so caution is needed. I plan to put out a video on some of the purpose made low voltage UPS's at some point.
I had a zendure power bank that I used to power my google fiber fiber jack because it was powered by 5v and 2a. Then a charger charging the zendure.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Oh, I look forward to that!
Thanks for your honest review ❤some reviewers only point out company specifications not the actual performance 👍
No problem 👍
Wow! Thank you so much for this video! Learned so much today! That new marketing tactic is sneaky - slow clap to business + tech. Though I also appreciate you ending on a positive note. Given the cons, if you can get these on a much lower price, they are not bad. Importantly, they are safe power banks.
Thanks for watching!
I think you got the conversion from Wh to kWh wrong at 9:21. Shouldn't it be "kWh/1000=Wh"? Not "kWh=Wh/1000"?
1000 wh / 1000 = 1 kWh which is true. 1 kWh / 1000 = 0.001 Wh which isn't true. I think? I could be wrong. The Wh is 1000 times smaller, so 1000 watt hours is 1 kilowatt*hour.
Thanks for the detailed video! Went with Ugreen for my Steamdeck as it only charges at 45W. Was cheaper on sale and the shape of the Anker is an absolute dealbreaker for me when travelling.
The UGREEN is the more typical shape and is fairly compact for what it is.
I have been waiting for this review! Anker states this bank supports dual input charging up to 170W on their website: "170W Fast USB-C Recharge: Recharge your power bank at lightning speed with the convenience of dual USB-C ports, allowing you to fully replenish it in just 37 minutes." I did not see that tested nor it mentioned in one way or another. Can you test that capability?
I love my two Anker 737 banks(got 1 for free). With the MASSIVE battery(99.6Wh) in my Apple MBP 16" M2 Max, the additional capacity of this new bank calls to me. Is it worth it? Sounds like the 737 has more accurate display information(100% actually means 100%?), but you mentioned this new one does 140 power delivery MUCH better than the 737. What does that mean exactly?
The Anker 737 requires a break after discharging the entire battery at 140W. AllThingsOnePlace said during the 140W discharge test he had to wait for 1 hour before the powerbank would let him charge it again.
The Prime 27,650mAh powerbank, however needs no such break. It can output 140W and recharge at 140W all day long with no overheat
I have tested it as well. Can be recharged at 170 watts in 37 to 40 minutes, NO PD 3.1 REQUIRED!!
you just need some multiport 200w+ charger to get this to work. Ugreen nexode 200w and 300w will work with this. Wotobeus 200w charger will also do the trick.
you could also hog up two wall outlets and then plug two 100w PD 3.0 chargers with two 5 amp cables and it will also work. It'll just split the charge 20v 4.25a + 20v 4.25a
Yeah, that's a lot of watts. I wish it had EPR 180W so it could do it with one cable.
@@AllThingsOnePlacenope. I retested and the maximum power input happened to be up to 192 watts, so 48 volts would have been required.
I tested mine with an Ugreen 300W charger using the 2 max 140w port and the Anker took in a peak 186.2W of input
After watching your videos i bought 2 chargers and i will buy a power bank as well. You sir earned my sub. Thank you so much !!
Nice, thanks for watching!
Wow, glad I stumbled across your channel! Excellent science- and measurement-based reviews!
Thanks!
Did you verify PPS on the faster C port?
The manual indicates PPS on the input (That rail is what the Anker 100W charging base pin input uses), but not on the output. Output looks like standard USB PD rails.
Additionally, did you test the 170W dual port charging mode on the Anker, using 2 140W chargers?
On the Anker, I did verify PPS output at 100W and it worked no problems, only on the faster port. I didn't try dual adapter charging, not sure how that would work. If you have one try it and let me know how long it takes to finish charging, remembering the built in screen doesn't actually tell you when charging is done.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Dual adapter charging means you can plug two chargers into both C ports to charge even faster. According to JCKRGB's video, it even works with two adapters with different voltages.
9:26 the efficiency numbers do not seem to be ok. A1340 is correct however the other two maybe mixed up somewhere. UGreen = 100*77.5Wh/97.6Wh = 79% so the number including charging. for the Anker 737 it is 100*72/95.8WH= 75%
Those are the numbers in the table on the bottom row. The first row is discharge only versus on the box rated so kind of a junk number.
@@AllThingsOnePlace oh yeah sorry my bad, understand now! Ah great way to look at it also. And great content, so many reviewers take the wrong turn and multiply a fixed (assumed) output voltage times the measured mAh instead of real measured Wh. in some reviews the worst performing low voltage with constant current score the best. Also DC-DC constant I vs constant P load mistakes. But all looks very good here!!! GREAT
I wonder if Anker is showing 100% battery early to halp save the life of the battery. I know some auto makers are now putting in extra battery capacity that is only made available as the battery degrades
I stumbled into this channel looking for power bank reviews for my steam deck, but stuck around for the interesting science.
It's been months and I still haven't bought a single power bank btw.
Nice! Thanks for watching! I need to find a way to get more stumblers.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceI'm trying to promote your channel on TH-cam Facebook Instagram, even getting spam comment strikes for promoting you but people need to know there is finally a awesome technical testing channel for chargers & Power Banks. Thanks again for the channel & all the hard work put in. ⚡️🔋🔌⚡️
Great advice. I have the Anker and really enjoy the power it has.
Good to hear!
I really want someone to open up this power bank. I just received mine and was surprised to see the 3950mAh*7. I would think that means that it does not use 6 2170 cells like the 737. The past Anker power banks I’ve used have had pretty accurate representations of how the cells are positioned in the pack in marketing material compared to teardown videos, and the Anker 250W battery is the first to showcase pouch styled cells in the marketing material that I know of. This would seem like the first time Anker didn’t use cylindrical cells which I presume is for better volumetric density.
Thanks for this amazing and thorough test. It did almost reach the claimed 240W for 2 USB C ports. I wished you went ahead and added a USB A device just to max it out because using all 3 ports is when Anker claims 250W. I did figure out how to turn off that USB A output by putting it on the base and pressing and holding the side button. Can’t figure out how to turn it off without the dock😅.
Yeah, that makes sense on the power bank size matching the 737. Interesting way to get the port to turn off! I would not have gone through that much trouble to figure it out. Thanks!
Ugreen released an upgraded version of this powerbank that supports PD 3.1 on USB-C and claims to have 140W output on that one... I wonder if anything else changes, e.g. efficiency
It’s worth checking out at least.
Could you also check the protocol they manage (with a USB tester) and charging speed reached on a few electronic devices (like an iPhone, a Galaxy S24 Ultra and a MacBook)?
Yeah, I always figure enough other people doing that check. I have the protocol analyzer, still haven't taken it out of the box.
@@AllThingsOnePlace That's true
Thanks so much for including the information on traveling with these powerbanks, makes the difference.
Glad it was helpful!
My Anker Prime 250W will pull another 20Wh after it says 100% while charging. Running the latest firmware of 1.4.7. They appear to have deliberately set 80% as 100%. The question is why?
No idea. But yeah, I've seen this on lots of power banks lately.
There is a new version of ugreen 145 that deliver 140w from usb c1 port maybe they fixed the issues with the old one?
Thanks, yeah, I will have to check it out.
Same I have the new Ugreen 145w and it works fine I've never had issues with it. On the older 145w Ugreen for the C1 Port it says 100w, USB-A 18w, C2 45w. On the new one it says C1 is rated for 140w, USB-A 22.5w, C2 65w.
@@AllThingsOnePlace will you make video outta them after you check it tho? I hope to see what the current product can do :( i was thinking about ZMI on Ugreen and went for Ugreeen feels bad I should’ve seen ur video first :(
Please review / test the Omnicharge Power Banks - Omni 20+ 220v & Omni 20C+. I find your video's absolutely outstanding and I'm just dying to know if these Omnicharge devices (one of which has DC out) are worth the premium. Thanks for your work on these tests too.
Yeah, those have been on the list for a while now.
Can you do a comparison of Anker 250w with the new UGreen Nexode 200w? Thanks for these great contents.
Yeah, I just need to get going on more power banks in general.
+1 The UGREEN Nexode 25000 mAh 200 W is similar to this Anker Prime 27650 mAh. The UGREEN is more affordable, no app, no Bluetooth and slightly lower capacity on paper. I'm interested in knowing about the battery technology in terms of durability, that is, how many cycles can withstand each of these powerbanks.
Can you look at the V Mount style batteries from Smallrig, Newer etc? They all have USBC, USBA as well as come with DC out on a DC plug socket. They are normally used for powering cameras, but can be used for charging almost anything. They are 'chunky' looking but has excellent info screens.
Yeah, I should check those out, my lights all use V-mount anyway. Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm so confused, I found a listing on the UGREEN UK site with the same exact SKU of 90597A. But this one says its PD 3.1 capable with a max single output of 140W. Can't find it on Amazon though.
Yeah, I guess there is an updated version but yeah odd that the SKU is the same? I haven't been able to find it myself on Amazon.
These videos are amazing!! Any plans to make one on the Apple 70W USB-C Adapter?
Yeah, I need to cover that eventually. I don't expect much.
Can you test it? Standby power my thing about these power banks is that I carry them along period of time and haven’t used them but when I need to, I want to make sure that the standby time will. The amount of power is still there.
I can't test that within reason without destroying the product. You need to cut the battery out and measure the current leaving the battery. I can say modern Anker power banks tend to lose charge with all the smart features.
Love to see a head to head comparison of the Anker A1340 Prime Power Bank, 27,650mAh 250W and the 737. In your scoring sheets, there are fewer modes on the A1340 (9 vs 11 on the 737, I think) and I don't understand the discharge rate alt column on the sheet. Enough subtle differences to be interesting, IMHO.
I'll add some more background at some point, that mess is more of a collection of thoughts. The discharge rate column is basically notes. It can probably go away. But yeah, um, this video does the head to head comparisons to the 737?
@8:53 some other guy who has a video on this anker powerbank shows clearly in-video that it was charging while also having an output! How's that? Maybe it's an in-app option?
It does do that, limited power, I think I show that too. It doesn't act as a UPS though, so if you cut the charging it shuts the output off.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Much appreciated! got it.
I dont know maybe its a newer version but i bought the 145w ugreen and i got super fast charging 2.0, so there is pps support
Yeah, there is a newer version.
@@AllThingsOnePlace can you review it please, I think it's a really good one
Do you do a rated capacity test? Many of the powerbanks has this listed in specs. I think I saw the UGreen with 14500mAh. This seems to done at 5V so seems like a good real world test to test useable battery capacity and dc dc converter efficiency before bms switches off. This would be relatively easy standardised test to do on all powerbanks. Great test you have to done show UGreen doesnt stand up to high discharge rates. Keep up the good work.
Everyone does it differently. The voltage would only be part of the equation. I don't only use the 5V setting test since it's unfair to some and would make others look great. What I do instead is a full load and a partial load test on larger power banks, and the 5V or 9V test on a smaller power bank representing a typical phone as the load. It is a time balance thing too. I'd do more testing but spending days testing power banks for a couple extra data points that will only give you a small amount more information does not seem a worth while trade off.
Fantastic review and technical expertise! Please do Lencent brand travel adapter review, they come with various pins and have different models 45,65,100w. They seems decent.
Thanks for the suggestion. I added to the ever growing list. I need to make some progress on that.
What makes the Prime 27650mah so much more efficient compared to it's smaller 20000mah brother?
Is it the difference in cell numbers, higher quality components?
Cell numbers, structure can make a difference. Topology, control, and components all matter as well, not necessarily higher quality but more engineered.
So the ugreen one should be awesome for an always on raspberry pi travel router that I can recharge anytime too without the pi turning off?
It does appear that way.
After using it for a few weeks I will say this is by far my favorite bank to use. I have a bunch of oppo/oneplus devices that use Supervooc (proprietary charging tech) and this is the only battery I’ve seen that does the full 65w that US supervooc allows. Also the app (while questionable) is undeniably a great feature. Minimal battery drain (according to Anker it’s .12mw per hour or so because it uses BT LE)….don’t know if it’s accurate but my favorite feature is a find my battery feature. Anker definitely hit a home run too.
Also it’ll fast charge with huawei, ROG 80w, QC5, and most other fast charge standards as well from what I’ve seen (a bit of a tech hoarder here)
ha, yeah, I'm a lab equipment hoarder but also acquire too much tech, so much I made a channel out of it. Thanks for the reporting on devices and uses for this though. I don't have any Vooc or related devices to test with so I always skip that part. I think the ZMI no20 also has this feature but you have to use the 'special' USB A to C cable that comes with the power bank.
@@AllThingsOnePlace technically speaking supervooc as a charging standard is better than PPS, QC5, and Samsung fast charge just due to the way Chinese manufacturers like oppo, huawei, OP, Vivo design their phones. Unlike with most devices that use one continuous battery cell most of the Chinese phones use dual cell so they can charge 2x+ as fast (120w or higher in some cases) and because it’s two cells they actually age slower than a single cell battery (oneplus rates around 1600 cycles) and they seem to charge at full speed even with screen on (thermal limitations apply). Tested the 250w with oppo, huawei, vivo, oneplus, and a few others. I can confirm that power IQ 2 usb A will supply faster charging than usb c on the same battery….averaging 18-28w for usb c vs 40-65w on usb A. Not sure what Anker is doing but it’s working. Just a little bit of information I felt would be useful
If my phone uses xiaomi proprietary charging of 20V and 3.25A. Which powerbank should I buy?
I haven't tested it personally, but some have reported the UGREEN working. The ZMi is also the one I've seen that supposedly supports that mode specifically with the supplied USB A to C cable. I don't have a way to test it though.
You're correct. The ZMI should work. Like most other brands -- Xiaomi's proprietary charging tech is a mess, so depending on the Ugreen, it is unlikely to charge at its best.
However, for Xiaomi phones, to be safe you should buy a CukTech powerbank. They're on top of the game in terms of supporting Xiaomi's proprietary charging. I think they're related to ZMI or something.
@@ConfyScenty most ZMI powerbanks supports 120watts but my xiaomi phone usually charges at 67watts using the included charger
@@mixout27 That's even better. Using a 120w ZMI powerbank to charge your 67w Xiaomi phone won't be a problem at all. Your phone would only draw the wattage that it requires, which in this case is 67w max.
2:35 Samsung uses 3.85V batteries not 3.7
That's a trick. It's all nominal voltage, so it's all estimations. I noticed brands that want to claim a little more energy will say 3.85 v nominal. It's all the same battery. Some say 3.65 to under estimate a little. The majority goes with intervals of 3.7. Some tool manufacturers go with intervals of maximum voltage just to make number more bigger. The proper method is to integrate over the full charge, discharge cycle several times to get a full energy profile. I would like to do this for devices too, but it will be a while before I get into that.
Thanks for the Information, didnt know that.
I purchased the Anker one with a huge sale. I confess I did not need it (I’m generally rarely out of juice) but I was curious to have the shiny gadget. I also purchased the base station on sale which makes also it a fun gadget (the base is also a power hub so it was not that a bad deal even if it does not negotiate well with some things). The pair looks cool and I was surprised that the magnet was so strong.
The battery does feel and looks great. It works also very well at 100w without much heat.
However do we really need all these fancy display and BT features ? I doubt it and they are more potential points of failure.
So even if it works well, we overpay (even on sale) for a small « geek » pleasure. :)
Yeah, the display and BT are certainly gimmicks. But yeah, I think it is more about the fun of it. Very much in gadget territory and out of functional territory. I don't know about you but my next power bank needs chatGPT I think.
Good morning sir my question would be CAN ONE CARRY IT ON YOUR CARRY ON AT THE AIRPORTS?
Yes.
can you explain please why your chart states the anker can only charge a macbook 1 time? is this due to lost efficiency? Shouldn't a 27000 mah bank charge a laptop more than once?
Yes, charging efficiency plays a role, I use the output of the power bank not the capacity for the calculation, also I think I round down on the charts.
Awesome!
Would love to see the baseus 30,000. Seems like a more trustworthy cheap competitor to the ROMOSS 30,000
I did one of those. I think the older version of the baseus. I have the rosmoss here but haven’t tested it yet.
@@AllThingsOnePlace you're right! It's a little dissapointing on the charging efficiency, I wonder why battery banks tend to be so inefficient with that. Seems like unless you really spend for the high end ones it's usually under 80% efficient form the wall.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceRegarding the data controversy, i think you're referring to Anker's sister company Eufy , right ??
@@JoshuaG Yeah, I know they're not the same thing but still, nope.
Very good video, finally some actual testing! Only issue is that you didn’t test the 2 cables 170W charging mode of the anker. It’s able to be charged at 170W if you plug in TWO cables for charging it, since it’s limited to 140W per port. Since you get to see very few devices with capabilities to be charged faster than 140W, it would be fun and useful to test it!
Yeah, I didn't do that. Have to leave something for the other channels to cover, right?
Did the 100W port turn off at 70% because both at the same time were overheating it? When would it turn to lower wattage if it was just the 100W output port working?
As tested, one port operation overheated it. I didn't check two port operation. The device didn't dynamically adjust so it kept trying to deliver full power, and immediately shutting down, restart, it'll deliver 100W, shut down quickly, so the power level never changed.
Then what do you suggest with good features with huge sustain power but don't make hole in our pocket.
If I find that one, you will all know, ha.
In your opinion what is the best charging brick and power bank on the market?
I'm still using my Satechi 165W, it is very efficient across it's range of charging and it doesn't get too hot if you need 100 watts, I regularly use it with four devices and haven't had any issues. But there are tons of variables so the one that works for me the best may not be for you. But opinion, Satechi 165W for a power brick. The ZMi no20, 210W edition, is the most feature rich and high capacity power bank I've tested, I took it on vacation with me and it held up great so that is my pick for that. It is big though. So, smaller, I'd go with the Evatronic 60W.
I really and truly appreciate your detailed response. I tried so many chargers that all seem to overheat. Anyway I will be trying out the items you told me about. I love your content keep up the amazingly outstanding work that you do because you are the standard that all you tubers should look up to 😎
Got this ugreen power bank for like $60 bucks around xmas time. Does what I need. Just got in the AOHI starship. Haven't even really got to use it yet. Hope you do a review on it.
Nice! Yeah, I have a few aohi things on the list to checkout.
Actual usable capacity is given which is rated capacity 14500 2:15
I need a power bank to run a GoPro Hero 11 for 6 hours @ 4k 30 fps non-stop as a remote camera. I've tried multiple 20000 mAh power banks, but they all run out of power quickly -- as I believe the listed mAh is inaccurate. Any suggestions.
Yeah, so probably anything with over 75 Wh of available capacity. Something like the Iniu 25k. The camera shouldn't be using more than 5W, it would over heat if it did, so 5*6 = 30 Wh but times two for efficiency losses and a bit of safety factor, so 60 Wh.
How'd you get the big guy from Anker? I've been keeping an eye out for that one and haven't seen it on sale anywhere yet. The 20k and older 737 are good but I want the 27.5k 250w.
I put in an order the day it came out and it finally showed up. So, I waited a while. I didn't get it on sale, the price of getting a review out.
what is a charing meter? I have bought one of those SBAOH Portable power bank, can you also do a dismental video on these powerbanks we would love to see which batteries are inside
Not sure on the meter. I don't generally do teardowns of these as they are destructive and it is a time management issue. Also, I am not convinced believing a brand is better than another is provable or true.
The ugreen power bank recently had a update, where they change the c port to 140w max and only 1 input port. Please do a video on it.
Yeah, I looked into getting one, and I got the same power bank I already have, no update.
Thank you for the great review, the USB-A port status is discharging with 0 watts while not connected to any device, I have the same issue with mine, which is very annoying to me, Do you have any recommendations? Thanks
So, this usually indicates low power mode is enabled on the Anker. It is supposed to turn off either automatically or with button pushes, but it was stuck on for mine. I let the power bank drain to zero and recharged it and then it wasn't enabled. This power bank has issues with idle power usage too.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you very much
Such a good review dude. It was really helpful, so keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Anker Prime 250W 27650 has received a big firmware update without a changelist. Could you please retest the power bank with the latest firmware and tell us the differences?
They can't change the power circuits. The USB protocol chips are ASIC's. They can change things like the display and cut off points for over temperature but the actual function won't change.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Hi, I understand that, but you said in the video that it displays 100% even though it's not and still charging for 30 min after. I was wondering if you can't fix this with a firmware update, after all the display of 100% percent is based on the voltage of the cells right?
I just bought one and on the listing it’s clearly marked that it can do 140 wats out of a single port so I hope that that’s correct and not 100w because I already have a powerbank that does 100w from basseus.
The anker does 140W on one port.
i got the ugreen for 70€ on prime-day sale. no regrets, charging my 65W laptop goes just fine (tested with power meter)
Good to hear it's working for that use case.
What watts max and stable output are you achieving?
Hey man, im glad you did an in depth review of the ugreen, since I was looking at buying it. The only thing is you just lost me more here 😂 I would need a recommendation; I will be traveling in march and Im expecting to charge my phone (15 pro max) at least 3 times a day and maybe earbuds or smartwatch once but no laptop. Would you say the ugreen would be good for my use? Or would you recommend any other option? I just dont like anker’s form since I find it unpractical. Thank you so much and great video with great info!
Yeah, for the lower power needs, UGREEN is not a bad choice.
Great review, tx.
Thanks for watching!
Is there a reason why theres no safety listing/certif. on ugreen products?
On power banks it's rare for all manufacturers. I don't think it's really a requirement yet in that field. On things that plug in the wall, they have started to add it on newer products. I think before it was looked at as an unnecessary expense.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Hm, interesting. Cutting costs. Thanks for the reply!
Thats a deep dive wonderful review. 👍 It is so good that I wonder when we will see your own brand so that people can get proper powerbank.
haha, yeah. That's a time and money constraint for sure.
It appears the Anker Prime powerbanks are good looking, but so so technically. However, for simple charging of an iPhone 15 Pro Max, will they serve such a purpose or would you recommend something different? Cost isn’t the issue for me I just want it to work quickly and effectively.
The Prime 250W is a good power bank if you want a lot of energy. The zmi has been all over with me and held up so far. It's a bit big and heavy but I just see that as a challenge. These both have plenty of power for an iPhone and will be efficient and cool at those power levels.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceappreciate the information. I am subscribed!
They display 100% long before they are at 100% but could you characterize that?
(Discharge it completely as soon as it hits 100% and measure the capacity vs discharge it once it has stopped charging)
I wait until it stops charging for capacity. I can't change the settings in the device.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I meant you could measure capacity when it displays 100% *and* when it stops charging. Putting number on their lie.
I got the anker and base. I just liked how it looked and was surprised that it can display the time, haha. Wish they update it to not display in 24:00 format, though. I trust anker, and it does everything i need, so no complaints so far.
Nice! Yeah, I use several Anker chargers and power banks and haven't had any issues, all newer ones.
I just bought anker 737 but now thinking of sending it back an getting the 250 watt. I can't decide :(.
Well, if money is no object. The 737 is pretty good.
Great comparison, thank you! May ai have a question? I would like to ourchase a power bank to power my Lumix S5iix camera during outcoor shoots. Since I am streaming sometimes training session, longer than 1,5 hour, I need something whichcan safefly do that and not breaking the bank. What would ypu suggest to get?
Thank you in advance.
It depends on what the camera needs for power. If it's only 5V and 1 or 2 amps, then these or nearly any power bank will do fine. If it needs something more, then figuring out how to power it, if it can negotiate PD modes or if you need an adapter... Then power consumption, so 10watts, then a 70wh power bank is going to get you 7 hours of runtime. In general I can get more than a full day on a gopro in timelapse with one of these but that is a pretty low power camera.
@@AllThingsOnePlace it is a Panasonic Lumix S5IIx. 9V, 3A, 27W is the minimum requirement for power supply for continuous power and needs PD capability.
U are the Power Man 😅. Thanks for your great effort.
haha, thanks for watching!
Is the Anker cable really 240 W, though?
I know it's 5 A in both cases but the cables that are rated for 100 W can carry 5 A too (20 x 5), so....I don't know what I'm saying but I felt like sharing.
The 240W comes from the EPR modes of USB, so 48 volts times 5 amps. Correct that the current limit is always 5 amps.
I would like to use a Powerbank that allows me to play full spec on the ROG Ally (Turbo mode (I guess 30W TDP but it needs to be acting as if it is plugged in at 60-65W)) all the time. Is the fact that the UGREEN slows down after 70% to 50W an issue for this?
That could become an issue with the UGREEN. The ZMI can hold that power level for a full discharge. The Baseus blades should be able to hold that as well as the 60W Evatronic for some different shaped or more compact options.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThanks for the advice! The Anker 737 should also be a possibility, right?
@@AllThingsOnePlace I do also have a laptop asus g502du and use a dc to type c adapter , normally using a 65w pd charger is enough for it to use but not enough to charge at the same time. Charging wattage is 50w average max 65w on this laptop and my power consumption for the laptop is around 10-15wh do you think baseus blades can keep up with it
or the ugreen 145w? btw another side question for when I am not charging my laptop but have a heavy usage. Which one is able to keep for longer at 100w baseus blades or ugreen 145w and they both shutdown when they get hot right no way of them to lower the wattage ? my adaptor is only for pd 100w so wont be benefiting 145w either way and the battery is rated for 78wh
for other options they are not available here like ankers and such
thank you for reviewing the ugreen 145w! by chance do you know any powerbank thag can output 45w (SFC 2.0)?
The anker can, in this video. Many others have the PPS mode as well but checking for enough current or voltage is required.
About Ugreen's 145W power bank: How does one tell that it doesn't have Programmable Power Supply feature just by looking at the technical specifications on the box, user manual?
The trigger board will specifically ask for a PPS mode and the UGREEN doesn't deliver one. So, it is a test.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceWhat's a trigger board? I'm sorry for asking a noob question.
@@MeganCollins-up8ru No, please ask, I never know the technical level of people watching. A trigger board is an emulator for the various USB power delivery modes. Search for USB Decoy if you want to check one out.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThank you for your clarification. I'm touched that you took the time to answer my questions.
To summarize: One can never tell if a power bank has the PPS feature just by going over the technical specifications provided by its manufacturer.
Good stuff!! Do you think the anker is worth it over the 24k 140w charger due to price difference?
Same question :) I was about to buy the 737.
If you need the extra capacity or want to use the 140W output power then yes it's worth it
You beat me to answering my own comments, they still show in YT dashboard though, so answer b, I agree.
I need a powerbank in an application were it does not switch off, it has to power a LED lamp that has its own powerswitch. Do these powerbanks qualify?
You'd have to figure out how to make the power bank think you've plugged in a new device each time you flip the switch on the LED. These probably would work fine for a short duration but after a while, even in low power mode, they will turn off and not come back. Depending on what you need for power a more basic power bank might be better, USB A, keep the output active all the time.
Thanks for video. I'm using 25k 145W Ugreen for charging all my devices like notebook & phone while traveling and 12k 130W Anker prime for everyday use to charge the smartphone on the go.
I still need to check out the 12k.
Ur the best man thanks for being the greatest❤️
Thanks!
Also having issues with wrong battery indication on that anker one. My power meter shows that it further fills 2-3k mAh after indicating 100%. Kinda bummer, great power bank overall (except blocky design, i prefer slim but wide one, easier to fit in backpack). Anker support says it might be because battery rebalance after charge, not sure how true is that (whopping 3k mAh for rebalance?). Still in talks with their support, but it looks like they just want to RMA. Interesting thing that anker app indicates firmware version on powerbank, so maybe can be fixed with future updates? Mine is 1.2.4.
Yeah, if it takes 3k mah for rebalance after one charge cycle, they have a dead cell in there already... I'm surprised they got into that detail on support though, but albeit conjecture. I am always surprised by the support they have reported here in comments. Don't forget to turn bluetooth off, the power bank goes flat fast if you leave it on.
@@AllThingsOnePlace i'm gonna try to drain it fully, shame i don't have some heavy load for that. Let's see what real capacity of mine is. Still wouldn't be surprised if it's just bad measurement on that power bank.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Ok, so i did full discharge test.
My consumer was laptop that can consume 65w over type-c.
It negotiated on 20v@3a (strictly speaking, 20.17v at 2.8-2.9a (fluctates a bit during charging)
Voltage/Amps/Wattage readings were pretty close on both powerbank and meter (cheap one, not a professional hardware, but by my experience with it, fairly accurate for home usage).
At runtime of 1:40 (fairly accurate estimate on anker display btw, according to my meter, it was almost the same minus 20 seconds), it pushed total of 93054 mWh, which correlates with your results of efficency.
So i guess this is just measurement error in powerbank, not a dead cell?
@@LexRivera Okay, yeah, that sounds like it's good capacity wise. I think it is just the way it operates.
@@AllThingsOnePlace i'll continue my talks with anker support and see if we can reach some conclusion. Will report if anything happens. Kinda sad to see such bug on otherwise terrific powerbank.
I don't know if you will answer, but I have a question. I have an Anker Prime250 product, but I don't know which charger to use to charge the Anker. I want to charge Anker Prime. Could you quickly recommend a charger of about 140w? 100w is also good. Of all the executives I know, you are the best. If you were you, which would you use between 140w and 100w to charge Anker? Is there one?
Hello. I do tend to reply a lot. Anyway. My typical choices for around 100 watts are the baseus gan3 desktop charger or the 100 anker prime power adapter. They’re both decent choices for charging that power bank. If you want to go faster 140w chargers are all kind of the same but basically anything will equally get the job done.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Do you recommend 100w or 140w to charge Anker Prime 250?
@@liajin1227 It's an opinion. I think either is acceptable.
So I could use either of these to power my Akai keyboard (12v, 3amp = 36w) for a 3 - 4 hour gig? They're would be breaks to cool or recharge every hour or so
If it really uses 36 watts, then no, 36w*4hr=144wh < 80 or so wh available in the anker power bank. But I doubt it uses 36 watts they just over rate things as a safety factor. Also, you would need a PD trigger board to get 12V if the device isn't USB C PD capable already. You have to plug in the audio signal, plug in the power too.
@@AllThingsOnePlace interesting what you say about a trigger board - thanks, I'll look into that. I was thinking about a Usb-c to DC adapter. Either way, I certainly don't want to do anything that may jeopardize the keyboard. Cheers.
Edit: after a little research, I was hoping that the usbc would recognise the circuit as 12v/3a and provide power accordingly, but it may be that the protocol isn't there by default and a thingamabob needed to tell the own what power to push out?
I have a doubt about the ungreen 145w portable battery. I see you said it can't actually output 145w for a long time, so in that case, is it even worth it for the price? I just bought a drone, and i need a power bank since i only have one battery. I bought the ungreen thinking it was the better option since to charge the drone battery, a 65w charger is needed. I figured that since the ungrren has 65w on one port and 145w on the main port, this would be a wise investment for future uses. But i saw another portable powerbank that only claims outputvat 65w at half price. Would it have been better just to go with that one??? I just got the ungreen today, so u still have time to return it and order the other one, but i wanted your take first. Thanks!
65W should be sustainable. But yeah, I think there are better options. Iniu seems to have a good reputation and tested as stable for the ones I've looked at so far.
Hi! do you mind checking out the updated version of the ugreen? I'm having a hard time deciding between the updated version and the anker 737
No I don’t mind. I have it on the list. The 737 has been good to me, sometimes they do just stop working though.
Between the ugreen 25k 145w for $41 vs the anker 737 for $131 as a power bank purely for a steam deck oled, is the ugreen my best choice price to performance wise?
Yeah, the UGREEN is the better buy there. You won't be needing that many watts for your Steam deck so it should keep up no problem.
Great channel keep up the good work! The Anker 737 seems like a very good choice here.
Yeah, it's often on sale too.
I have the ugreen powerbank, the c2 and A port stopped working😢 any idea why that would happen
During my testing the top of the power bank gets quite hot and seeing as though it shuts off at only 50 watts out, I think it overheats and in time I expect this could cause early failure.
Hey I wanted to use my Lab power supply to test some of my powerbanks, HOW do i set up a usb-c cable wired up from the lab PSU to the powerbank, do you need to have a load on the usb wires/cable or is it a straight connection with USB -C as new to usb c
I don't recommend that. USB C has communication over the wire so skipping that can cause damage.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Kinda knew wasnt straight forward. Would you consider doing a tutorial video on how your setup works or a guide on how to make a circut board to be able to use the lab supply ?
@@AllThingsOnePlace Would you consider doing a tutorial video on how your setup works or a guide on how to make a circut board like you use
Is there a way to limit or control the output power of each port manually, so that the power bank won't overheat and shutdown when charging 3 devices?
Sort of. You could use 60W USB C cables, so, 60+60+15W on the USB A should let you drain the battery flat.
What if I just want to charge my phones and tablets earbuds? What do you suggest...
Probably one of the smaller power bank offerings, like a 10kmah from a decent brand. Try to avoid the pop up ones which just look like random strung together letters.
May I know which power bank that suitable, not heavy and powerful enough to charge a portable PC gaming handheld like gpd win 4 and aokzoe?
I'm not sure, it comes down to protocol supported mostly. The portable PC's won't use more than 60W so as long as the power bank can continuously provide that and the protocols are compatible between devices... Probably either of the ones in this video will work.
Hi. Which will you recommend that is light weight and handy when traveling?
I usually will take two power banks. One large, like one of these, which are better for powering a camera all day, and one smaller one like the Iniu 15k or 10k which is good for a phone or other accessories.
@@AllThingsOnePlace i'm still undecided wether i would get Anker or Ugreen😌
do you reckon the anker could fix the issues via a firmware update through Bluetooth? or is a firmware upgrade not supported?
I think they can push firmware updates on this one. Typically they can’t change the power supply behavior or usb negotiations. Those are handled on dedicated chips.
The Anker one also can be charged 170w with two cables.
Yep.
Hi, Sorry, why Anker 737 and ugreen 140w powerbank whit my Xiaomi 11t pro and my tablet honor X9 the quik charge Is slow whit this powerbank. Xiaomi 11t pro charge at 16w and Honor X9 charge at 10w. This device whit charger nexode pro 160w go at 70w and 22w. Whit the powerbank go very slow. Why? Thanks
My guess is protocol compatibility. You are stuck at 5V with the power banks but the nexode charger is letting you use a higher voltage mode.
Thanks from italy😅. Sorry you know some Powerbank good for my 11t pro? For use fast charge...
@@ninnialoisio3578 I think the ZMI no20 has the ability to use the alternate power modes for charging but I don't have any devices to specifically test that. It comes with a USB A to C cable for those modes.
the 747 powerbank charged my phone at 17w and immediately dropped to 0.1w. then it went back up to 17w and dropped again to 0.1w. always like this, the watts went up and down. the ugreen 145w powerbank however remains stable at 17w. I don't know whether to keep the ugreen or reappear the anker 737 and send the ugreen back. I'm really sorry that I can't use fast charging with a power bank for my phone. I followed all your videos and I know you spoke well about the ZMI but unfortunately it isn't available in Italy.
I try in ugreen the original Xiaomi cable type A for 120w fast charge Xiaomi and charge at 4w
Could you also test the UGREEN with 20.000 mAh100W please? Especially how it fares in comparison to the Baseus Blade HD, as both can be had for about the same price right now, thanks a lot, your reviews really are the best, precise and detailed!
Yeah, I have that one here to test! I need to get it and a bunch of other things on the schedule.
wwjoshedew got the anker to charge at 140w in and 94w out at the same time. why didnt yours work?
Maybe I didn't discharge it enough before trying that? It certainly throttles back charge speed as it fills up.
@ interesting. Yeah that could be a possibility. He got it to function in and out at the same time which I thought was amazing!!! I wish my Omni charge 20 did that. It’s almost perfect except for that it can’t run uninterrupted. :/
With all the ones you've looked at, what is your recommendation for a powerbank around $100? This is such a rabbit hole lol. Would need to have PPS though. Thanks!
Yeah, it's a tough one, availability is also the question. The anker power banks tend to have PPS on the higher end of the market, but only meet the price point on sale (which they are often on), I'd think about the Iniu lineup. They're under the price point but have reasonably good ratings and performance.
Absolutely incredible review/comparison! Can’t wait to see more of your videos. Subscribed. Thank you for doing this!
Thanks for watching!