It's disappointing to see well-regarded brands like Anker and UGREEN fail at making good, high wattage chargers, but that's why channels like this one are so important for consumers
@@AllThingsOnePlacehello when u say for the anker solix battery banks to not use the cable provided what do u mean by that that it melts is the cable that bad that it cant even charge the powerbank like the c300dc
Im suprised that the best 140w charger is a apple one even tho its bigger its probably never going to break i never had issues with the original iphone chargers they still work
This channel is a great resource. I promise when I have some extra cash I'll find your pattern and donate. The world needs more folks like you doing this. Full package.. you know the topic, have the hardware and know how to make a watchable video. I appreciate it. My whole charge setup has been cycled out for better stuff based on your vids.
I'd like to thank you for making these videos. By coincidence I chose a decent adapter for my daughter (laptop/phone/ipad). But judging by these videos it could easily have been a mess.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I am looking for a 100W+ adapter. I need to see what from your reviewed products is available in the European market. Although Anker, Baseus and Ugreen are common here.
@@benjaminfrohns I would reccomend the rocoren 100watt desktop charger , its the same as the baseus charger in this video but with a removable power cable, you need to buy aliexpress though, i have bought 1 for 25 euro, if money is no issue then Anker.
hmm price point... but more so energy storage, the Anker looks good, so it depends on your use. the one note I have is the Anker does lose a bit of energy in standby where as the ZMI is stable longer term.
@ yeah, that price is too good. Did you ever test the docking station for the Anker powerbank? It has some ports so it can double as a desktop charger but have no idea if it’s any good
@@PabloGST I did that that one, I have no idea what video it's in or part of... It didn't do too bad for use as just a desktop charger, the power bank feature is a little gimmicky, it does work though.
It's just me talking at a microphone. Minimal processing, small amount of compression, low pass, high pass. I could spend some more time and clean up some of the ticks and breath noises but I guess that's what separates it from an AI voice.
I wish there was a good stackable high wattage charger like Hyper Juice's 100w stackable charger that got recalled for safety issues. Loved the design, color, ports, capabilities, and the dim night light ring it had
Yeah, I didn't get a good feeling from anything they were making so I avoided them all, but yeah, there's a market for some more modular options. It's not easy to make something efficient, safe, and modular. As soon as it has any extra connections people will do something wrong with it and probably get hurt.
Hi! Very nice channel! May i ask what power adapter would you recommend in the group 6 category that has 12V and detachable AC cable (if possible)? Thank you very much
Maybe I'm mishearing, but are you saying it's better to use a higher watt charger for a lower watt device because of thermals? Like a 100w charger for a 65w device?
I like the amazon 65w because it works with everything... It's small enough so it's convenient and powerfull enough that it can charge a laptop if needed (at slower speeds...). Thank you for all the videos!
haha, yeah, unfortunately, it's been slowing down. The content needs to get better, icons, titles, AI generated shorts, more SEO friendly content, it's niche, and the production needs work... but yeah it's a hobby.
Hi! I want to say that you make very important and useful videos. I have a couple of questions for you. Tell me, do big voltage ripple of chargers affect the quality of charging? I would also like to know what during charging what kills the the charge controller in smartphones and laptops? I am also interested in whether there are models of chargers from Anker that are unsafe for smartphones?
It seems to test really well, but the non-standard power lead connection is a deal-killer for me. Being able to simply change power leads when travelling abroad, or change leads for a longer/shorter one, is super-useful.
Hey ! Thanks for the good work 🙏 I was wondering which one you would choose between the Anker 200w and the Satechi 200w at somewhat similar prices ? The 240w anker is a bit too heavy for travel and I think the fixed cable would be a bad idea seen how tightly I pack. Or if there’s another-one better than those two in that range ? Thx ✨
Yeah, if all your devices have their own batteries the negotiation dance usually isn't too big of a deal... Some laptops complain though of phones ding every time a mode changes... But for the most part they kind of just work. Between the 200W models, either one is probably good. The Satechi does offer faster single port charging. But the Anker is real cheap right now... Personally, I'm still using the 165W Satechi.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yes I was leaning towards the Anker but then I saw the Satechi on sale for 75bucks so got a little hesitant! But ultimately I guess the two and the Ugreen 200w don’t seem all that different. Thanks for the answer and your channel is amazing, subbed right away!
I bought the Anker 737 Charger (due to your recommendation and it's small form factor), and it good I can charge my laptop, phone and battery bank at the same time. It dose heats up a bit but not to the point where it uncomfortable. Thank you for your work.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I think I'm fine with a power adapter pulling 1W if it does everything else really well. I also wonder how relevant a good idle power measurement is with an active cable e.g. USB-C to Lightning attached.
If high idle power consumption isn't an issue, as this would primarily be used for travel only, how would you rate it in retrospec compared to all the others you have tested thus far in the same relevant category(around the same wattage/form factor/# of ports, etc.)?
@@bamahabir In my experience it's the most polished charger I own. Have yet to have any PD compatibility issues with it. Doesn't get too hot. Uses a standard power cord that's long. Power distribution between ports is reasonable. The only drawback is that it doesn't support 140W PD 3.1 EPR, but it came out before that was popular.
Another informative video. Curious, have you ever seen any grounded GaN chargers before? I understand it's not required, but is a nice to have. Something that plugs into an IEC-C5 plug is abit hard to find...
Yeah, so both Apple adapters are grounded if you use the extension cable. UGREEN has some (zero-ish ohms though), but the high wattage chargers aren't great. The Anker power strip ones don't (purposefully) connect the mains and USB side. Apple is probably the best and most reliable route to an earthed USB side.
@@AllThingsOnePlace If it helps add to your research, another grounded multi-port charger I found was the Lenovo Go 130W G0A6130W, which uses an IEC C5 port. Not sure how "GaN" it is, and it doesn't have PPS. It seems to be out of production so I've bought one for travel, and will switch out the C5 cables as needed. The apple ones are good but 1 port is too few for a travel charger for me. Any theories on why don't the Anker ones purposefully exclude ground?
How woud u rate the apple 140w im thinking of getting it for my anker solix c300dc i cannot find a good 140w charger i know the apple chargers are usualy the best i still have every charger for my iphone and they still work i know that the 140w is big and heavy but i woud use it at home mostly for the anker solix so the weight and size is not an issue if it will work forever
@ this is the exact reason I bought the apple 140w, to charge the c300dc. I would defo recommend it for that. Doesn’t get red hot like other chargers and i trust the apple safety and build quality. Tip: a lot of people sell the 140w because it’s bundled with a mac but they want something smaller. I got one on ebay for way less than half the apple price
Great video! Thank you so much for it! Would love to see your tests on the EGO 300W Exinno+ charger (They also have a 240W and 180W ones that look literally identical) as well as their EGO 300W Extreme CP 10-port charger. For my setup I need something reliable, safe and with reasonable temps, powering a laptop or two, 2 small cameras like the Insta360 X4 and DJI Pocket 2 and a couple of tube and panel LED lights (so 6 ports at least, a selection of USB-C and USB-A would be nice to have). All in a reasonable weight and dimensions since it would be used on stage and travel in my gigbag with tons of other gear. I assume something like this is not out yet so I'm keeping an eye on your channel and waiting for the next technological miracle✨ Thank You so much for Your videos, such content is infinitely valuable in such a huge market🙏
Yeah, the ego stuff is what I call higher risk, I have tested some of what they are selling under other brands. Like the idst unit there are reasons to keep looking but I'm pretty strict. I'd contact ego and see if they can meet your needs.
Hello. Thanks for making such a great Chanel. Please could you suggest the best charger to sit on my desk and fast charge my iPhone, Apple Watch and AirPods . I’ve never needed to charge my laptop at the same time but don’t mind getting an all In One solution if that’s the way to go. Listening to you is very helpful but allot goes over my head. I like the new Anker prime stuff and use Anker chargers on the go but don’t want to be fooled by aesthetics or marketing. Apologies if you have already answered this elsewhere. Essentially looking for a plug it in and leave it while I work solution.
Yeah, I think the bigger charges are a little over the top for your needs, skipping laptop requirement. Really, any charger with three ports in the 65W range is probably what will work. Anker makes a few options, in terms of what I do, performance, any major brand is going to be basically the same in this area. I'd probably try to stay clear of the real cheap stuff.
Can you please create a video in the future, where you explain the values seen in the oscilloscopes in a "explain like I'm 5" fashion? Including the wiring setup. I do understand electronics in general, but where to focus on the oscilloscope when you point your fingers, I still dont get what message you are trying to deliver with it. I hope you understand what I am trying to say.
Yeah, a video covering instrumentation is probably not a bad idea. I've tried covering it in pieces of videos but like here, if I did, it would get skipped, so maybe dedicated pieces may do better (they'll be very low performing videos but help the people who do want to learn a little more). I am mostly pointing to voltage for modes of operation, or power consumption / power being supplied. Units change on the displays also so, it's a lot to pick up on. I've been reading instruments like this for so long I just move quickly through it.
Thanks for doing all this testing but I still have questions. I want an adapter that can handle 100W sustained for at least 2 hours and Can do PPS so like a real versatile adapter that can replace a laptop adapter but still charge basically everything at max speed. I want it to be as small as possible what would you recommend? I'm also open to something bigger than the anker 2343 if it is way thermally better but I do want it to be small and I'm unsure how quickly it throttles. You said the new one throttles in 30 mins but the old one you didn't do the same type of thermal testing in the old video from what I saw.
im liking ugreen so far. ive always been Anker but somehow on a Ugreen kick. I got 2 100 watt wall plugs, 2 battery banks 1 is 100watt and the other 140 watt. The wall plug get slight warm but it still chargers my phone and laptop at fast charging speeds. The battery banks dont get warm at all. I have a few 100 watt ugreen cables also. also got a ugreen organizer coming too. lolz Im just looking for one more thing and thats a usb charging hub yeah im loving ugreen so far. I do want to check out that beauses one at some point
In another comment about ensuring the longevity about our devices you mentioned getting more wattage than you need as the device will last longer and run cooler and said if we need 50w get 100w. Is double the wattage a good rule of thumb? Or just higher wattage in general like 100 watts if I need 65 watts? And does this also apply to power banks?
65W out, and 100W available is a good size bump to keep things cooler and longer lasting. For power banks, they can suffer early failure because of overheating electronics too, most of the time that's what breaks not the battery (baring dropping or abuse conditions, charging it when it's frozen or been in the sun, those kill the battery), the Anker 250W power bank is an example, in reality no ones going to push it to 250 watts. Under a normal workload it might see 150 watts continuously, which is still a lot but it can handle that. At 250 it overheats quickly and shuts down.
Thanks for the overview! Any chance at seeing combo receptacles with built in 65 watt USB C ports tested? Elegrp, Amerisense, Topgreener, Lider, Abbotech, etc.
is the baseus 100w wall charger (ccgan100us) good and also does it heatup a lot and i saw a lot of quality issues with baseus do you think the CCGAN100US will break after a few months?
I think Baseus is inconsistent. I don't have actual numbers on their failure rates, and no one ever will unless Baseus decides to share, but then unless all the other companies share too we don't have any comparison points. The reviews tend to show more early failures though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace is it super inconsistent that i shouldn't buy it also i see that you said the desktop version of the CCGAN100US is still your top pick so Im assuming that it should be good right or is it not good in 2024? oh and btw how long did you have your desktop 100w baseus for and is it still working?
I ordered the anker 2683 before I had watched your video about it. It won't charge my acer laptop using their fancy silicone 100w cable. It oscillates between charging and not charging every five seconds. It charges my phone great!
Hi!! I’m new into this type of videos haha, discovered this channel in a subreddit and I guess it was faith. But, I’m looking for an adapter that charges my AirPods 3 and IPhone 15PM. So, what would be your suggestion?? I want to take the best choice and not mess it up. 😅
I have both. I can’t comment on the electrical characteristics, I trust what this channel says about the older one being better, but size is very important for my use case and the newer one is better in that regard.
I bought Anker Prime 100W GaN Wall Charger (1 gen older than the latest) and I’m disappointed in how hot it gets. Charging at 80W it feels blazing. Why can’t power bricks be more efficient or have active cooling? I swear that heat cycling isn’t healthy for electronics inside. Also, thank you for making these videos. You’re the GOAT, showing data that surpasses many youtube channels with millions of subs.
The thermal cycling isn't good for the electronics for sure. It does get pretty got too, but yeah, if you shrink the size you reduce the radiating surface so it gets hotter. I have a 'mini' video within a video talking about how long these might last inside of the Anker 240W video because that also gets hot. A lot are rated for a 1 year life for a reason.
For the Pixel 9 Pro XL max 37w charge, do charge adapters have to meet exactly this PPS values or it can vary? "PPS: up to 11V/3A, 16V/3A, 21V/2.25A max 45W" Thank you for these helpful videos.
Do you think you'd be able to test ZMI/Cuktech chargers? Would be really interested if Xiaomi's charger OEM is capable of making good Power Delivery chargers and even Powerbanks.
I did the 65w range and smaller of both for chargers, I don't think I made a video, they're normal basic chargers. No surprises. Power banks I have to do more of.
5:58 A nitpick. It's not "effectively", it's "efficiently". All power adapters are effective as in they all get you the same effect which is the device being charged.
Hi! I saw your rocoren video you did a 1-2 years ago, and I found out the brand also made a 400W version of it, Will you ever review that one in the future?
Yeah, I have a feeling like that's a 'max' product. There are clues in the marketing material like the 'max current' it uses versus the minimum voltage, and losses, means it's more like 300 watts peak, that's still not continuous. All the ports are listed as MAX watts. 400 watt power supply with no fan in a tiny sealed box. I have some of these ultra high wattage temporary chargers here also. It may be a combined video kind of thing... basically don't get fooled by big marking numbers.
@AllThingsOnePlace That's great to here! I'll wait for the review as I was looking for a high Wattage charger and the 400W looks decent enough for the price, Thanks!
I purchased a Satechi 165W adapter 4? days ago based on your review lol. I dont know why its out, but I'm guessing because its discontinued? Anyway, been very happy with it so far (4 days and all... :D)
yeah, it's only out for one reason, the high idle power consumption, which if you leave any apple cable plugged in is a moot point anyway, which I do... leave multiple cables plugged in. I should've presented the runners up too. It's the only real down side it had in the review, but I've kind of pushed things in the direction of following the published standards for evaluation and technically, the 165w falls outside of the idle requirement. It has a lot of positives still. Active efficiency is still class leading. The leakage current is borderline, so could cause some user issues for 240V use. It and the Anker 150W are really up there for next in line devices within that category.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hey mate thanks for the reply! Much appreciated! I also keep cables plugged in 24/7 so :) I'm an engineer so I totally understand the move to standards-based ratings. Even if you disagree with the standard, it does give an object point to work towards; and more often than not standards exist for a solid, technical reason despite what others say. Day 6 of the Satechi going strong - I'm going to pick up a second one. Also, you weren't kidding; that light is obnoxiously bright. Thanks again for the great content, subbing into Patreon right after posting this.
@@mcspud What happens if you leave cables plugged in? Doesn't it still draw the power regardless if it's connected to a device? Is that why it doesn't matter, because the comparison (idle power consumption) is when all the cables are removed?
@@jaremy511 honestly dude I don't know - I run 2 laptops (Apple M1 Max (16 inch) and Apple M3 Pro (14 inch)) at the same time - but it means that one is always on charge whilst I use the other one. All I can say is that this charger deals with both of those machines well enough for me, and as someone that has been digital nomading for like 7 years now its a great change. YMMV
Pepper Jobs had a 165w charger that is/was an exact rebadge of the Satechi, complete with ETL certification. I bought 5 for every room in my house when they were being cleared out on Amazon for $40 each.
I travel quite a bit, so I’m thinking carrying one multiport power adapter can be more convenient than carrying and plugging in multiple adapters. There seems to be a weight penalty, which isn’t ideal for travel, but if I only need to find one good outlet(opposed to four or more) that might be a worthwhile tradeoff.
Yeah, the Anker 240w is a heavy job, it's a decent power supply though. The 150W 747 (again 'older'), which is just out of frame in having to pick the best of is probably worth looking at. I still use my Satechi 165W, squid of wires, I don't wrap the wires, I shove it in the bag and go, again just out of making the list.
@ I had an Anker travel charger with the retractable prongs, and the prongs snapped off from the unit after about a year. So I’m wary of that system in general. The Satechi seems like a good smaller option, can’t complain about good power quality.
can you please review the Powerology chargers, it is available here in our country but i don't see any reviews, i want to see some reviews first before i decide to buy it or not, thanks!
When you refer to bad high power chargers from anker, is the new 240 watt charger by anker, the one with the screen, what are the issues with this charger?
250W, it's inefficient, it overheats, the idle power is sorta pulling the wool over your eyes to get it to pass... the app is a privacy nightmare and to access all the features you HAVE to connect it to wifi... It is pretty innovative so on that front there is no other, but it's primary job is power supply and it's bad at that.
Baring a totally different structure, they will be the same. Like a slim version is going to be different than a brick, but if they added a europin plug to the same adapter, then it's the same thing.
With the USB negotiation, it should be perfectly okay to charge a small device from even a large charger. The charger doesn't decide how much power to supply, the device does, as long as it's not a bad actor. Example, directly connecting the battery to the USB port or something and relying on a bad USB charging cable to be the 'resistor', they exist, see USB cables video where one catches on fire. But even the cheap junk box earbuds I tore down the batteries had protection chips. I have no issues using my 165W satechi charger to charge my earbud case or my watch.
Disappointing to see very few good choices in the 150W+ category. The new Ankers aren't very good too, and they're asking for so much. Did you ever review the other Baseus 100W 4-port charger? The wall one? I have that one, while I got the corded desktop (that you like) for the wife.
Yeah, it requires care in the design to make a high wattage charger, that takes time and cost, guess what's first on the chopping block. Anyway, yeah, I think I tested the four port wall version, gan2? It's efficient, but it has other issues like noise, high idle power consumption... All the newer Baseus ones I've tested have been easily measurably worse.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks! Mine's the "Gan5" but I doubt there's much difference. Shame Baseus couldn't continue with the success they had with the 4 port desktop version.
@AllthingsOnePlace My headphone KVIDIO doesn't come with a charger however, I have many charging brick around the house. Which wattage is appropriate for me 20 watt or 5 watt?
Have you seen the Delta 48V, 240W PD charger? "1145-ADP-240KBBA-ND" gets you the Digikey ref. A new PD charger from a real power supply company... It's pretty clunky looking but I'm curious on it's performance.
What do you mean “Anker devices are so poor electrically”? I have been doing testing for myself and have noticed that Anker chargers cost a premium but don’t necessarily perform like premium chargers. I have been surprised with other chargers build quality.
I'm wondering if your reviews on the new Anker Prime devices will need regular updates. After reading many of the reviews it appears that Anker rolls out ota updates that include optimizations and add functionality.
The 240 and 100 should be the same, the older 737,747,736 may be slightly different now, offer more modes possibly but they really should be different models at that point. The newer devices could certainly be different, as they have updatable firmware by the user.
Hello and my respect. I saw there’s a new Anker 140w Zolo wall adapter with smart display in China, if you could get your hands on one, that would be great. Link in the reply
Over specify the power level. So if you need 50 watts buy 100 watts. The device will run cooler and last longer. Of course the principals of this video still apply, efficient, safe, etc.
It's still my daily driver. It's still really good. But going more standards focused, it doesn't meet DOE VI. TOO many idle watts. Which it more than makes up for by being more efficient than pretty much everything else if you actually use it but the standards don't account for anything like that and in general the market has lower idle power usage devices now. So, if buying today, I'd probably get the Anker 240W over the Satechi 165W.
Anker came out with some new Apple chargers including a 240W desktop version that's very similar to the existing 240W but with all 4 USB C ports. You should take a look at those.
@@occamsrazor000 TH-cam is fussy on links. It's on the Apple store website. Google "Anker Charger (240W, 4 Port)" and there should be an apple link in the results. It's $130.
The 3 reasons I got the Anker 65 Watt 765 were: it can fast charge my tablet, phone and headphone simultaneously; the plugs fold; and it's the Optimus Prime Edition. Having said that, if it were just the normal version, I'd get the 100 Watt today. I just saw it on Amazon for $50, down from the normal $80. However, I have no complaints about my 65 Watt charger. It provides enough power for 25 Watt+ charging for 2 Samsung devices and my headphones all at once.
I wish you would go into just a bit more detail on how you chose the best charger in each category, and maybe put up a table of some important characteristics of the ones you tested, so we can see which of the ones besides your top pick are decent, if not the best, and which are downright bad. Also, I think it's sad to see the 20 W chargers getting left behind by manufacturers, since they can be tiny and still more than sufficient for smaller devices.
Yeah, bigger watts and more better right? I have made a few iterations of this video, I did more of the mega list previously and it gets confusing, very low watch time, so this experiment was making it shorter. I do give minimal explanations of why these were picked but less context of runners up, which is basically everything else.
The lightning fast distribution and better stability over time (at higher temps which is both a blessing and a curse). The newer one shuts down really soon, the older one will break itself. The other issue is the newer one, although marginally more efficient, chooses to not use the power factor correction until high wattage (half or more usage), so even though it measured at the wall socket about the same, in reality it will use more power versus the older one.
Super detailed response, thanks! There is also a previous version that has "dynamic" power distributions, Anker 737 Charger I think. Did you ever test this one? Any thoughts on the whole iq4 dynamic power distribution thing? Probably less important on a 100W charger, but on the 65-70W chargers dyanmic power distirbution seems like a fantastic feature. Anker used it in one release, but then stopped doing it though.
Man I just want a usb c power station that’s able to provide power to my Nintendo Switch (5V 1.5A-15V 2.6A), my Wii (12V 3.7A), my Apple HomePod mini (20W), and my 100W Docking station for my MacBook Air. Why is it so hard to find something that’ll fit my needs. I thought the 200W Satechi 6 port would be enough but that thing has been giving me too many problems Edit: looks like I was doomed from the start and should’ve looked for 240W+ power chargers. I might get the Anker 250W based on the review you made since it’s the only one I’ve seen that can do 12V (albeit on the usb-a port)
Well, 12V3.7A is not a valid request for USB PD fixed voltages. You will need to trigger the PPS mode and many chargers will struggle with the current, then you will have negotiation issues, but also PPS is pretty finicky for stability so it'll probably turn off and on a lot causing the whole system to renegotiate all the ports again. Most of these not having their own battery means even a very short term dropout will cause the devices to reset. It's a situation where one for each is better for things with no batteries, you can probably get away with the switch and laptop dock on one supply. So, while technically it can be made to work there are limitations that will prevent it from working. There are heaps of high wattage chargers that claim keeping all the ports on all the time, but then finding one with this mix is probably not easy and most of them are fake.
That's the downfall of them, the quality issues. It could be as simple as the fragile USB C port breaking, which is pretty easy to do on any charger and also causes failure of the device, or it could be a failure of the device itself electronically.
Yes, it is. The components get worse if you make the parts thinner. Transformers 'leak' more, capacitors have higher ESR and ESL. Can it be done, sure, but the cost is then skyrocketed because the parts are custom and good luck getting those parts in volume. Instead, every slim adapter I've tested has been worse performing.
I think for lot of people is much more important to having a charger which they can use for multiple devices and which is reliable and for long term use. For this group having a 100W+ charger with only one port is not an option. For my personal opinion the Apple charger what you showed with 140W but only with 1 port is mostly useless. Are they really real use cases where people need to charger their Macbooks asap? Maybe some, but its not dominant use case. I think is much better to having a 140W charger with at least 3 port, which you can use to charge your laptop during working at home office while you also can charge your phone without unplugging the second device and you still have one port free using for something else. I think this feature is much more important than finishing charging 5 minutes earlier. I believe many people just plug in some device into a charger and leave them there.
I tested a lot of the multiport 140w chargers, I don't know why they do it, but everything I've looked at has been off for one reason or another. They overheat, they're inefficient, they don't meet standard requirements, so technically more usable with more ports, but not for long. The apple takes it because it lasts longer and has excellent performance for AC leakage current and efficiency. The Satechi 165W which doesn't meet standards because of it's high idle power, is great with four ports, it's the one I use daily, it's not a 140w one port device either, so older and slower. I didn't include it because it doesn't meet standards with the high idle power usage. They did refresh it with the 200W version, but that did worse in other areas. So, yeah, no wins in the 140 watt range really...
@@AllThingsOnePlace Noted! Those are meant for the refurbished iPods. I'll need to get some newer low voltage chargers. Looking at Black Friday sales i hope!
mmm, damn, so they made that worse too... joking. ha I've tested many generations of the 5W bricks and somehow they maintained the quality through vendor swaps and everything. I hope that story is true of this one too.
Hey, engineering student here and big fan. Nice to see that you already know about the delta 240w! I read the dataasheet on Mouser. Why didn't make your list? 88% efficiency vs apple 140w 93% efficiency? The captive nonreplaceable 240W usb C cable? No AVS mode unlike the framework 180W? No PPS mode? Huge dimensions and weight? The super terrible capacitor life at 8760 hrs @25C compared to those nice caps with 10,000 hrs @105C? High ripple and noise? Narrow operating temperature 0 - 35?
@@AllThingsOnePlace Lol. I still strongly suspect that the 88% efficiency, 600mV ripple etc are absolute worst case minimums. I would not be surprised to see 92% efficiency on your bench. Still though, I wouldnt touch any cap that said "8760 hrs @25C", thats basically like ~550hr at 65C, which is probably the internal temperature at full load. (judging by the 60C case temperature of the framework 180w.) Literally a time bomb.
hah, yeah. That's okay. I haven't heard much about Samsung at all. The quality of the Samsung tablet I bought was not good. I was trying not to go all apple but yeah maybe I'll have to give Samsung another try.
@AllThingsOnePlace apparently it's back in stock? No longer discontinued. Supposed to have 5 mw of idle power consumption but the current model doesn't have good reviews .
Have you ever thought about building a charger yourself? With your knowledge of parts to use that are of great quality, you could become rich and famous 😅
I do more detailed testing in the long form videos. In general, idle power is a bit higher and the efficiency will climb a little bit on 240, but the adapters are the same. Some don't do that, Apple 70W, it gets a little worse.
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It's disappointing to see well-regarded brands like Anker and UGREEN fail at making good, high wattage chargers, but that's why channels like this one are so important for consumers
Thanks for watching!
Looks like the engineering budget went to marketing
@@AllThingsOnePlacehello when u say for the anker solix battery banks to not use the cable provided what do u mean by that that it melts is the cable that bad that it cant even charge the powerbank like the c300dc
Im suprised that the best 140w charger is a apple one even tho its bigger its probably never going to break i never had issues with the original iphone chargers they still work
This channel is a great resource. I promise when I have some extra cash I'll find your pattern and donate. The world needs more folks like you doing this. Full package.. you know the topic, have the hardware and know how to make a watchable video.
I appreciate it. My whole charge setup has been cycled out for better stuff based on your vids.
Thanks for watching! Every watch is support.
I subbed. No filler, good stuff
Best channel.
Thanks!
Same. Thanks TH-cam algorithm
I’ve been looking forward to this video all year. Thank you for everything you do!
haha, oh man, going to be a long wait to next year. Thanks for watching!
I'd like to thank you for making these videos. By coincidence I chose a decent adapter for my daughter (laptop/phone/ipad). But judging by these videos it could easily have been a mess.
Nice! Yeah, I guess the unintended consequence of taking the adapters out of the box with products is the 3rd party market exploding with options.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I am looking for a 100W+ adapter. I need to see what from your reviewed products is available in the European market. Although Anker, Baseus and Ugreen are common here.
@@benjaminfrohns I would reccomend the rocoren 100watt desktop charger , its the same as the baseus charger in this video but with a removable power cable, you need to buy aliexpress though, i have bought 1 for 25 euro, if money is no issue then Anker.
@@mrgringo7289 Amazon had the 100w Rocoren desktop very recently.
Thanks for your videos! If given the choice between a $159 ZMI no. 20 and a $149 Anker 250W 27k powerbank+station, what would you pick?
hmm price point... but more so energy storage, the Anker looks good, so it depends on your use. the one note I have is the Anker does lose a bit of energy in standby where as the ZMI is stable longer term.
@ yeah, that price is too good. Did you ever test the docking station for the Anker powerbank? It has some ports so it can double as a desktop charger but have no idea if it’s any good
@@PabloGST I did that that one, I have no idea what video it's in or part of... It didn't do too bad for use as just a desktop charger, the power bank feature is a little gimmicky, it does work though.
Your voice over is sooooo good!
It's just me talking at a microphone. Minimal processing, small amount of compression, low pass, high pass. I could spend some more time and clean up some of the ticks and breath noises but I guess that's what separates it from an AI voice.
I just wanna say thank you for your videos 🙌
You're welcome!
Always solid content. I am would like to see your coverage of the new USBC-only offerings from Anker. I am most interested in the 4 port 150W option.
Yeah, it looks like they have a bunch of apple exclusives.
Thanks for the 2024 retrospective, better to rush it before the big holidays in the US. But its time to build the mythical 100% efficient charger.
Haha
I wish there was a good stackable high wattage charger like Hyper Juice's 100w stackable charger that got recalled for safety issues.
Loved the design, color, ports, capabilities, and the dim night light ring it had
Yeah, I didn't get a good feeling from anything they were making so I avoided them all, but yeah, there's a market for some more modular options. It's not easy to make something efficient, safe, and modular. As soon as it has any extra connections people will do something wrong with it and probably get hurt.
Thank you for the video. Great information.
Thanks for watching!
Hi! Very nice channel! May i ask what power adapter would you recommend in the group 6 category that has 12V and detachable AC cable (if possible)? Thank you very much
Maybe I'm mishearing, but are you saying it's better to use a higher watt charger for a lower watt device because of thermals? Like a 100w charger for a 65w device?
Yes. That's correct.
Thx for the video , it hard to find chargers that support 21V 5A ? Thank you
Thank you for making the fantastic video, subscribed !!
Just wonder why you pick anker 240w instead of anker prime 250w ?
Go watch the 250W video.
I like the amazon 65w because it works with everything...
It's small enough so it's convenient and powerfull enough that it can charge a laptop if needed (at slower speeds...).
Thank you for all the videos!
You're welcome.
Thanks for the video, one of the most underrated channel in TH-cam. In upcoming year I wish 1 million++ subscribers for the channel🎉🎉🎉
haha, yeah, unfortunately, it's been slowing down. The content needs to get better, icons, titles, AI generated shorts, more SEO friendly content, it's niche, and the production needs work... but yeah it's a hobby.
Thank you for all the hard work, fr fr. Have you taken a look at the Aohi 40,000mh battery bank? Please do a video on that!
I haven't yet. I have one of the solix things I'm working on now. It was on sale...
Hi! I want to say that you make very important and useful videos. I have a couple of questions for you. Tell me, do big voltage ripple of chargers affect the quality of charging?
I would also like to know what during charging what kills the the charge controller in smartphones and laptops? I am also interested in whether there are models of chargers from Anker that are unsafe for smartphones?
What do you think of the Baseus PicoGo 45W charger?
Not sure, I added it to the list though.
GREAT video. If you're running out of chargers to try (HA!) I'm very curious how the new Leviton in-wall chargers perform.
ha, yeah, not running out, but I am planning a new in wall usb socket review. I don't think I picked any of the Leviton ones though.
Bought my 2nd 100w Baseus charger because I needed it, it's still a great pick according to you and it's apparently disappearing. Many thanks!
Nice
It seems to test really well, but the non-standard power lead connection is a deal-killer for me. Being able to simply change power leads when travelling abroad, or change leads for a longer/shorter one, is super-useful.
@@occamsrazor000 Hm, good point. I hadn't considered travel to a country where the plugs are different.
Informative video as always, cheers dude. Always look forward to seeing your videos.
Thanks!
Hey ! Thanks for the good work 🙏 I was wondering which one you would choose between the Anker 200w and the Satechi 200w at somewhat similar prices ? The 240w anker is a bit too heavy for travel and I think the fixed cable would be a bad idea seen how tightly I pack. Or if there’s another-one better than those two in that range ? Thx ✨
Ideally one that doesn’t renegotiate and restart every port. I’m not sure that exists but that would be great!
Yeah, if all your devices have their own batteries the negotiation dance usually isn't too big of a deal... Some laptops complain though of phones ding every time a mode changes... But for the most part they kind of just work. Between the 200W models, either one is probably good. The Satechi does offer faster single port charging. But the Anker is real cheap right now... Personally, I'm still using the 165W Satechi.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yes I was leaning towards the Anker but then I saw the Satechi on sale for 75bucks so got a little hesitant! But ultimately I guess the two and the Ugreen 200w don’t seem all that different. Thanks for the answer and your channel is amazing, subbed right away!
I bought the Anker 737 Charger (due to your recommendation and it's small form factor), and it good I can charge my laptop, phone and battery bank at the same time. It dose heats up a bit but not to the point where it uncomfortable. Thank you for your work.
Yeah, that charger or the 150W charger is so close to being on this list. Thanks for sharing!
Why wasn’t it on list
What did you mean about the satechi 165W(i am one of those who doesn't know)?
High idle power consumption.
Thank you for clarifying.@@AllThingsOnePlace
@@AllThingsOnePlace I think I'm fine with a power adapter pulling 1W if it does everything else really well.
I also wonder how relevant a good idle power measurement is with an active cable e.g. USB-C to Lightning attached.
If high idle power consumption isn't an issue, as this would primarily be used for travel only, how would you rate it in retrospec compared to all the others you have tested thus far in the same relevant category(around the same wattage/form factor/# of ports, etc.)?
@@bamahabir In my experience it's the most polished charger I own. Have yet to have any PD compatibility issues with it. Doesn't get too hot. Uses a standard power cord that's long. Power distribution between ports is reasonable. The only drawback is that it doesn't support 140W PD 3.1 EPR, but it came out before that was popular.
Another informative video. Curious, have you ever seen any grounded GaN chargers before? I understand it's not required, but is a nice to have. Something that plugs into an IEC-C5 plug is abit hard to find...
Yeah, so both Apple adapters are grounded if you use the extension cable. UGREEN has some (zero-ish ohms though), but the high wattage chargers aren't great. The Anker power strip ones don't (purposefully) connect the mains and USB side. Apple is probably the best and most reliable route to an earthed USB side.
@@AllThingsOnePlace If it helps add to your research, another grounded multi-port charger I found was the Lenovo Go 130W G0A6130W, which uses an IEC C5 port. Not sure how "GaN" it is, and it doesn't have PPS. It seems to be out of production so I've bought one for travel, and will switch out the C5 cables as needed. The apple ones are good but 1 port is too few for a travel charger for me.
Any theories on why don't the Anker ones purposefully exclude ground?
I must have been paying attention, I have the Apple 20w, Ikea 45w, Anker A2343 100w and Apple 140w. Thanks for the in depth testing
nice.
How woud u rate the apple 140w im thinking of getting it for my anker solix c300dc i cannot find a good 140w charger i know the apple chargers are usualy the best i still have every charger for my iphone and they still work i know that the 140w is big and heavy but i woud use it at home mostly for the anker solix so the weight and size is not an issue if it will work forever
@ this is the exact reason I bought the apple 140w, to charge the c300dc. I would defo recommend it for that. Doesn’t get red hot like other chargers and i trust the apple safety and build quality. Tip: a lot of people sell the 140w because it’s bundled with a mac but they want something smaller. I got one on ebay for way less than half the apple price
@@Ste1985zz thats great definitly going to get the apple 140w thanks for the tip i will try to find it for cheaper on ebay 👍🏻
Great video! Thank you so much for it!
Would love to see your tests on the EGO 300W Exinno+ charger (They also have a 240W and 180W ones that look literally identical) as well as their EGO 300W Extreme CP 10-port charger.
For my setup I need something reliable, safe and with reasonable temps, powering a laptop or two, 2 small cameras like the Insta360 X4 and DJI Pocket 2 and a couple of tube and panel LED lights (so 6 ports at least, a selection of USB-C and USB-A would be nice to have). All in a reasonable weight and dimensions since it would be used on stage and travel in my gigbag with tons of other gear.
I assume something like this is not out yet so I'm keeping an eye on your channel and waiting for the next technological miracle✨
Thank You so much for Your videos, such content is infinitely valuable in such a huge market🙏
Yeah, the ego stuff is what I call higher risk, I have tested some of what they are selling under other brands. Like the idst unit there are reasons to keep looking but I'm pretty strict. I'd contact ego and see if they can meet your needs.
Bought the Rocoren for my on the go uses. Been fantastic for as long as I've had it and was a total steal gor 40 bucks.
Yep. I still have and use mine occasionally, although now I find I grab that 240w job most of the time, the cord is actually convenient on the bench.
Baseus 100w adapters represent!
They are becoming quite a bit harder to find though, you're right.
Well they have the 'newer' worse models out.
Hello. Thanks for making such a great Chanel. Please could you suggest the best charger to sit on my desk and fast charge my iPhone, Apple Watch and AirPods . I’ve never needed to charge my laptop at the same time but don’t mind getting an all In One solution if that’s the way to go. Listening to you is very helpful but allot goes over my head. I like the new Anker prime stuff and use Anker chargers on the go but don’t want to be fooled by aesthetics or marketing. Apologies if you have already answered this elsewhere. Essentially looking for a plug it in and leave it while I work solution.
Yeah, I think the bigger charges are a little over the top for your needs, skipping laptop requirement. Really, any charger with three ports in the 65W range is probably what will work. Anker makes a few options, in terms of what I do, performance, any major brand is going to be basically the same in this area. I'd probably try to stay clear of the real cheap stuff.
Great video. I hope you can make another one with the ranking of the best portable batteries of 2024
Yeah, I only tested 5 this year. It's the same video, Iniu takes all the middle spots.
Thank you for this very useful video! From experience I can vouch for Ikea 45W, stellar charger for iPhone / Mac / Powerbank combo :)
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
Can you please create a video in the future, where you explain the values seen in the oscilloscopes in a "explain like I'm 5" fashion? Including the wiring setup. I do understand electronics in general, but where to focus on the oscilloscope when you point your fingers, I still dont get what message you are trying to deliver with it.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say.
Yeah, a video covering instrumentation is probably not a bad idea. I've tried covering it in pieces of videos but like here, if I did, it would get skipped, so maybe dedicated pieces may do better (they'll be very low performing videos but help the people who do want to learn a little more). I am mostly pointing to voltage for modes of operation, or power consumption / power being supplied. Units change on the displays also so, it's a lot to pick up on. I've been reading instruments like this for so long I just move quickly through it.
Thanks for doing all this testing but I still have questions. I want an adapter that can handle 100W sustained for at least 2 hours and Can do PPS so like a real versatile adapter that can replace a laptop adapter but still charge basically everything at max speed. I want it to be as small as possible what would you recommend? I'm also open to something bigger than the anker 2343 if it is way thermally better but I do want it to be small and I'm unsure how quickly it throttles. You said the new one throttles in 30 mins but the old one you didn't do the same type of thermal testing in the old video from what I saw.
im liking ugreen so far. ive always been Anker but somehow on a Ugreen kick. I got 2 100 watt wall plugs, 2 battery banks 1 is 100watt and the other 140 watt.
The wall plug get slight warm but it still chargers my phone and laptop at fast charging speeds. The battery banks dont get warm at all. I have a few 100 watt ugreen cables also.
also got a ugreen organizer coming too. lolz
Im just looking for one more thing and thats a usb charging hub
yeah im loving ugreen so far.
I do want to check out that beauses one at some point
Fantastic Video, thank you!!!!!
Glad you liked it!
😂Man, i have collected so many chargers since watching your channel and found out I have little time to use them all😅
Hello. What's your take with foldable plugs? Is it worth it over regular ones?
I think they are okay for the most part. There have been a few devices that break early because of the folding plugs though.
In another comment about ensuring the longevity about our devices you mentioned getting more wattage than you need as the device will last longer and run cooler and said if we need 50w get 100w.
Is double the wattage a good rule of thumb? Or just higher wattage in general like 100 watts if I need 65 watts? And does this also apply to power banks?
65W out, and 100W available is a good size bump to keep things cooler and longer lasting. For power banks, they can suffer early failure because of overheating electronics too, most of the time that's what breaks not the battery (baring dropping or abuse conditions, charging it when it's frozen or been in the sun, those kill the battery), the Anker 250W power bank is an example, in reality no ones going to push it to 250 watts. Under a normal workload it might see 150 watts continuously, which is still a lot but it can handle that. At 250 it overheats quickly and shuts down.
Thanks for the overview! Any chance at seeing combo receptacles with built in 65 watt USB C ports tested? Elegrp, Amerisense, Topgreener, Lider, Abbotech, etc.
Yep, got some of these here now for the (not next but) soonish video.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yay!
is the baseus 100w wall charger (ccgan100us) good and also does it heatup a lot and i saw a lot of quality issues with baseus do you think the CCGAN100US will break after a few months?
I think Baseus is inconsistent. I don't have actual numbers on their failure rates, and no one ever will unless Baseus decides to share, but then unless all the other companies share too we don't have any comparison points. The reviews tend to show more early failures though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace is it super inconsistent that i shouldn't buy it also i see that you said the desktop version of the CCGAN100US is still your top pick so Im assuming that it should be good right or is it not good in 2024? oh and btw how long did you have your desktop 100w baseus for and is it still working?
What was the short usb cables you were using ? , I would like to get some to minimise voltage drop.
The satechi 10 inch cable mostly. The other one is an old version of the epr anker cable. But the new ones are not the same cable.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks mate, I just subscribed
I ordered the anker 2683 before I had watched your video about it. It won't charge my acer laptop using their fancy silicone 100w cable. It oscillates between charging and not charging every five seconds. It charges my phone great!
I'm surprised that has issues like that. I'd expect the USB side to be okay. Thanks for sharing though!
Hi!! I’m new into this type of videos haha, discovered this channel in a subreddit and I guess it was faith. But, I’m looking for an adapter that charges my AirPods 3 and IPhone 15PM. So, what would be your suggestion?? I want to take the best choice and not mess it up. 😅
Those are fairly basic devices, so you don't need a lot of power. of what's in the video the Ikea 45w.
@@AllThingsOnePlacebad notice :(, it’s sold out here in my country. So, any other 45 W alternative as good as the Ikea charger?
Hi, Can you test Rocoren 400W (7C+3A) ?
Great video as always
they keep getting bigger. You think it's one of the fake ones?
I try Rocoren 200W(6C+2A) before and it seems good to me
What is worse about the anker 2024 100w? It's on sale for 50 vs 85 for the 2023 😢
He has a video on it and it's good too. Just the 2023 is slightly more efficient when using it as a phone charger.
I have both. I can’t comment on the electrical characteristics, I trust what this channel says about the older one being better, but size is very important for my use case and the newer one is better in that regard.
The new one throttles very easily basically.
I bought Anker Prime 100W GaN Wall Charger (1 gen older than the latest) and I’m disappointed in how hot it gets. Charging at 80W it feels blazing. Why can’t power bricks be more efficient or have active cooling? I swear that heat cycling isn’t healthy for electronics inside. Also, thank you for making these videos. You’re the GOAT, showing data that surpasses many youtube channels with millions of subs.
The thermal cycling isn't good for the electronics for sure. It does get pretty got too, but yeah, if you shrink the size you reduce the radiating surface so it gets hotter. I have a 'mini' video within a video talking about how long these might last inside of the Anker 240W video because that also gets hot. A lot are rated for a 1 year life for a reason.
For the Pixel 9 Pro XL max 37w charge, do charge adapters have to meet exactly this PPS values or it can vary?
"PPS: up to 11V/3A, 16V/3A, 21V/2.25A max 45W"
Thank you for these helpful videos.
It can vary, that is in fact the point of PPS, or programmable power supply, so it adjusts to what the device wants.
So what do you think about the anker 240w 4 ports vs 260w 6 ports vs 200w 6ports, even though I can benefit from the more ports.
Well only one made the video, and it wasn't even close... Those other ones overheat fast and are much lower for efficiency.
Do you think you'd be able to test ZMI/Cuktech chargers? Would be really interested if Xiaomi's charger OEM is capable of making good Power Delivery chargers and even Powerbanks.
I did the 65w range and smaller of both for chargers, I don't think I made a video, they're normal basic chargers. No surprises. Power banks I have to do more of.
5:58 A nitpick. It's not "effectively", it's "efficiently". All power adapters are effective as in they all get you the same effect which is the device being charged.
Nice. Yeah. Good find.
Is there a link to ones you choose from each group
No, I didn't provide any direct links.
Nice vid mate
Thanks!
What about the Anker 150 watt charger? The 747? You said good things about it before
Yeah, it's still good, I just needed to pick something for the video, it and the 120W are both the runners up.
Hi! I saw your rocoren video you did a 1-2 years ago, and I found out the brand also made a 400W version of it, Will you ever review that one in the future?
Yeah, I have a feeling like that's a 'max' product. There are clues in the marketing material like the 'max current' it uses versus the minimum voltage, and losses, means it's more like 300 watts peak, that's still not continuous. All the ports are listed as MAX watts. 400 watt power supply with no fan in a tiny sealed box. I have some of these ultra high wattage temporary chargers here also. It may be a combined video kind of thing... basically don't get fooled by big marking numbers.
@AllThingsOnePlace That's great to here! I'll wait for the review as I was looking for a high Wattage charger and the 400W looks decent enough for the price, Thanks!
I purchased a Satechi 165W adapter 4? days ago based on your review lol. I dont know why its out, but I'm guessing because its discontinued?
Anyway, been very happy with it so far (4 days and all... :D)
yeah, it's only out for one reason, the high idle power consumption, which if you leave any apple cable plugged in is a moot point anyway, which I do... leave multiple cables plugged in. I should've presented the runners up too. It's the only real down side it had in the review, but I've kind of pushed things in the direction of following the published standards for evaluation and technically, the 165w falls outside of the idle requirement. It has a lot of positives still. Active efficiency is still class leading. The leakage current is borderline, so could cause some user issues for 240V use. It and the Anker 150W are really up there for next in line devices within that category.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hey mate thanks for the reply! Much appreciated! I also keep cables plugged in 24/7 so :)
I'm an engineer so I totally understand the move to standards-based ratings. Even if you disagree with the standard, it does give an object point to work towards; and more often than not standards exist for a solid, technical reason despite what others say.
Day 6 of the Satechi going strong - I'm going to pick up a second one. Also, you weren't kidding; that light is obnoxiously bright.
Thanks again for the great content, subbing into Patreon right after posting this.
@@mcspud What happens if you leave cables plugged in? Doesn't it still draw the power regardless if it's connected to a device? Is that why it doesn't matter, because the comparison (idle power consumption) is when all the cables are removed?
@@jaremy511 honestly dude I don't know - I run 2 laptops (Apple M1 Max (16 inch) and Apple M3 Pro (14 inch)) at the same time - but it means that one is always on charge whilst I use the other one.
All I can say is that this charger deals with both of those machines well enough for me, and as someone that has been digital nomading for like 7 years now its a great change.
YMMV
Pepper Jobs had a 165w charger that is/was an exact rebadge of the Satechi, complete with ETL certification. I bought 5 for every room in my house when they were being cleared out on Amazon for $40 each.
Yeah, I also got one, haha.
I travel quite a bit, so I’m thinking carrying one multiport power adapter can be more convenient than carrying and plugging in multiple adapters. There seems to be a weight penalty, which isn’t ideal for travel, but if I only need to find one good outlet(opposed to four or more) that might be a worthwhile tradeoff.
Yeah, the Anker 240w is a heavy job, it's a decent power supply though. The 150W 747 (again 'older'), which is just out of frame in having to pick the best of is probably worth looking at. I still use my Satechi 165W, squid of wires, I don't wrap the wires, I shove it in the bag and go, again just out of making the list.
@ I had an Anker travel charger with the retractable prongs, and the prongs snapped off from the unit after about a year. So I’m wary of that system in general. The Satechi seems like a good smaller option, can’t complain about good power quality.
can you please review the Powerology chargers, it is available here in our country but i don't see any reviews, i want to see some reviews first before i decide to buy it or not, thanks!
Thanks for the suggestion.
ANy opinion on the BlitzWolf BW-i100 Gan?. Thanks
Not sure, I added it to the list though. I checked out a real cheap 65W one years ago, it functioned fine.
When you refer to bad high power chargers from anker, is the new 240 watt charger by anker, the one with the screen, what are the issues with this charger?
250W, it's inefficient, it overheats, the idle power is sorta pulling the wool over your eyes to get it to pass... the app is a privacy nightmare and to access all the features you HAVE to connect it to wifi... It is pretty innovative so on that front there is no other, but it's primary job is power supply and it's bad at that.
I wonder if different plug version of the same charger would have different result
same question
Baring a totally different structure, they will be the same. Like a slim version is going to be different than a brick, but if they added a europin plug to the same adapter, then it's the same thing.
Do you think it is unsafe to charge small gadget like smart watch and TWS earbuds with 100 watt charger ?
With the USB negotiation, it should be perfectly okay to charge a small device from even a large charger. The charger doesn't decide how much power to supply, the device does, as long as it's not a bad actor. Example, directly connecting the battery to the USB port or something and relying on a bad USB charging cable to be the 'resistor', they exist, see USB cables video where one catches on fire. But even the cheap junk box earbuds I tore down the batteries had protection chips. I have no issues using my 165W satechi charger to charge my earbud case or my watch.
Disappointing to see very few good choices in the 150W+ category. The new Ankers aren't very good too, and they're asking for so much.
Did you ever review the other Baseus 100W 4-port charger? The wall one? I have that one, while I got the corded desktop (that you like) for the wife.
Yeah, it requires care in the design to make a high wattage charger, that takes time and cost, guess what's first on the chopping block. Anyway, yeah, I think I tested the four port wall version, gan2? It's efficient, but it has other issues like noise, high idle power consumption... All the newer Baseus ones I've tested have been easily measurably worse.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks! Mine's the "Gan5" but I doubt there's much difference. Shame Baseus couldn't continue with the success they had with the 4 port desktop version.
if its different plug countries matter for the result or probably the same result like in the video?
The results are very similar. Generally the idle power consumption is a little higher and the efficiency is also a little better.
@AllthingsOnePlace My headphone KVIDIO doesn't come with a charger however, I have many charging brick around the house. Which wattage is appropriate for me 20 watt or 5 watt?
20 watt is more efficient. But likely the headphones don’t need anywhere near that. So, if you have a 5 watt charger that works I’d use that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks. Your contents has been extremely informative. Always appreciate your insight.
Have you seen the Delta 48V, 240W PD charger? "1145-ADP-240KBBA-ND" gets you the Digikey ref. A new PD charger from a real power supply company... It's pretty clunky looking but I'm curious on it's performance.
Yeah, I mention that in the video.
What do you mean “Anker devices are so poor electrically”?
I have been doing testing for myself and have noticed that Anker chargers cost a premium but don’t necessarily perform like premium chargers. I have been surprised with other chargers build quality.
I'm wondering if your reviews on the new Anker Prime devices will need regular updates. After reading many of the reviews it appears that Anker rolls out ota updates that include optimizations and add functionality.
The 240 and 100 should be the same, the older 737,747,736 may be slightly different now, offer more modes possibly but they really should be different models at that point. The newer devices could certainly be different, as they have updatable firmware by the user.
Travel chargers with changeable pins are great for airplanes as you can switch to the less worn sockets
Yeah, I use a power bank on the plane, mostly because, yeah, the bricks fall out too easily.
Hello and my respect. I saw there’s a new Anker 140w Zolo wall adapter with smart display in China, if you could get your hands on one, that would be great. Link in the reply
th-cam.com/users/shortsKpgzADHRvJc?si=1n0zi9pdALJlL848
Yeah, haven't seen that yet.
What should y oh take into consideration in a power adapter when your goal is to protect the longevity of your devices?
Over specify the power level. So if you need 50 watts buy 100 watts. The device will run cooler and last longer. Of course the principals of this video still apply, efficient, safe, etc.
@ thank you!
@@AllThingsOnePlace Is double the wattage a good rule of thumb? Or just higher wattage in general like 100 watts if I need 65 watts?
you should include aukey nextime they have same popularity to ugreen and anker but cheapest.
Why is the satechi 165w out? A year ago it was your favorite and your daily driver.
It's still my daily driver. It's still really good. But going more standards focused, it doesn't meet DOE VI. TOO many idle watts. Which it more than makes up for by being more efficient than pretty much everything else if you actually use it but the standards don't account for anything like that and in general the market has lower idle power usage devices now. So, if buying today, I'd probably get the Anker 240W over the Satechi 165W.
Anker came out with some new Apple chargers including a 240W desktop version that's very similar to the existing 240W but with all 4 USB C ports. You should take a look at those.
I don't see it anywhere, not sure it's available yet.
@tummymunster - do you have a link?
@@occamsrazor000 TH-cam is fussy on links. It's on the Apple store website. Google "Anker Charger (240W, 4 Port)" and there should be an apple link in the results. It's $130.
Ikea SJÖSS 45W FTW
yep. Price and performance.
The 3 reasons I got the Anker 65 Watt 765 were: it can fast charge my tablet, phone and headphone simultaneously; the plugs fold; and it's the Optimus Prime Edition. Having said that, if it were just the normal version, I'd get the 100 Watt today. I just saw it on Amazon for $50, down from the normal $80. However, I have no complaints about my 65 Watt charger. It provides enough power for 25 Watt+ charging for 2 Samsung devices and my headphones all at once.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, that makes sense, and it works for your needs so that is a great reason to have that charger!
Apparently the Samsung 45w adapters are back in stock but theres reviews saying that they dont last very long
Yeah, I've had that experience with newer Samsung devices...
I wish you would go into just a bit more detail on how you chose the best charger in each category, and maybe put up a table of some important characteristics of the ones you tested, so we can see which of the ones besides your top pick are decent, if not the best, and which are downright bad.
Also, I think it's sad to see the 20 W chargers getting left behind by manufacturers, since they can be tiny and still more than sufficient for smaller devices.
Yeah, bigger watts and more better right? I have made a few iterations of this video, I did more of the mega list previously and it gets confusing, very low watch time, so this experiment was making it shorter. I do give minimal explanations of why these were picked but less context of runners up, which is basically everything else.
Please suggest me a 45w AVS charger.Or 65w AVS charger.
I don't think there are any low wattage AVS chargers.
Why is Anker A2343 better than the their newer models? Is it because of power distribution, or something else else?
The lightning fast distribution and better stability over time (at higher temps which is both a blessing and a curse). The newer one shuts down really soon, the older one will break itself. The other issue is the newer one, although marginally more efficient, chooses to not use the power factor correction until high wattage (half or more usage), so even though it measured at the wall socket about the same, in reality it will use more power versus the older one.
Super detailed response, thanks!
There is also a previous version that has "dynamic" power distributions, Anker 737 Charger I think. Did you ever test this one? Any thoughts on the whole iq4 dynamic power distribution thing? Probably less important on a 100W charger, but on the 65-70W chargers dyanmic power distirbution seems like a fantastic feature. Anker used it in one release, but then stopped doing it though.
Are the EU versions of these adapters identical, or do they have different components?
They are identical for the most part, performance is pretty close as well.
Man I just want a usb c power station that’s able to provide power to my Nintendo Switch (5V 1.5A-15V 2.6A), my Wii (12V 3.7A), my Apple HomePod mini (20W), and my 100W Docking station for my MacBook Air. Why is it so hard to find something that’ll fit my needs.
I thought the 200W Satechi 6 port would be enough but that thing has been giving me too many problems
Edit: looks like I was doomed from the start and should’ve looked for 240W+ power chargers. I might get the Anker 250W based on the review you made since it’s the only one I’ve seen that can do 12V (albeit on the usb-a port)
Well, 12V3.7A is not a valid request for USB PD fixed voltages. You will need to trigger the PPS mode and many chargers will struggle with the current, then you will have negotiation issues, but also PPS is pretty finicky for stability so it'll probably turn off and on a lot causing the whole system to renegotiate all the ports again. Most of these not having their own battery means even a very short term dropout will cause the devices to reset. It's a situation where one for each is better for things with no batteries, you can probably get away with the switch and laptop dock on one supply. So, while technically it can be made to work there are limitations that will prevent it from working. There are heaps of high wattage chargers that claim keeping all the ports on all the time, but then finding one with this mix is probably not easy and most of them are fake.
One of my usb c port for My basues 100w w/ extension no longer works.
That's the downfall of them, the quality issues. It could be as simple as the fragile USB C port breaking, which is pretty easy to do on any charger and also causes failure of the device, or it could be a failure of the device itself electronically.
uow, really didnt expect aple charger tbh
For them it really comes down to lasting longer.
I don't understand why all the adapters are so thick, is it so hard to make thin ones?
Yes, it is. The components get worse if you make the parts thinner. Transformers 'leak' more, capacitors have higher ESR and ESL. Can it be done, sure, but the cost is then skyrocketed because the parts are custom and good luck getting those parts in volume. Instead, every slim adapter I've tested has been worse performing.
I think for lot of people is much more important to having a charger which they can use for multiple devices and which is reliable and for long term use. For this group having a 100W+ charger with only one port is not an option.
For my personal opinion the Apple charger what you showed with 140W but only with 1 port is mostly useless. Are they really real use cases where people need to charger their Macbooks asap? Maybe some, but its not dominant use case.
I think is much better to having a 140W charger with at least 3 port, which you can use to charge your laptop during working at home office while you also can charge your phone without unplugging the second device and you still have one port free using for something else. I think this feature is much more important than finishing charging 5 minutes earlier. I believe many people just plug in some device into a charger and leave them there.
I tested a lot of the multiport 140w chargers, I don't know why they do it, but everything I've looked at has been off for one reason or another. They overheat, they're inefficient, they don't meet standard requirements, so technically more usable with more ports, but not for long. The apple takes it because it lasts longer and has excellent performance for AC leakage current and efficiency. The Satechi 165W which doesn't meet standards because of it's high idle power, is great with four ports, it's the one I use daily, it's not a 140w one port device either, so older and slower. I didn't include it because it doesn't meet standards with the high idle power usage. They did refresh it with the 200W version, but that did worse in other areas. So, yeah, no wins in the 140 watt range really...
Im glad i kept the old 5V chargers from Apple and never gave them away 😂
Those maybe not so much worth keeping anymore, especially the real old ones.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Noted! Those are meant for the refurbished iPods. I'll need to get some newer low voltage chargers. Looking at Black Friday sales i hope!
hagibis 380w, ego 300w Chargers review please
I have some of the ‘high’ wattage ones here.
Test the new 20 watt Apple charger … looks the same but new stuff in there
mmm, damn, so they made that worse too... joking. ha I've tested many generations of the 5W bricks and somehow they maintained the quality through vendor swaps and everything. I hope that story is true of this one too.
Hey, engineering student here and big fan. Nice to see that you already know about the delta 240w! I read the dataasheet on Mouser. Why didn't make your list? 88% efficiency vs apple 140w 93% efficiency? The captive nonreplaceable 240W usb C cable? No AVS mode unlike the framework 180W? No PPS mode? Huge dimensions and weight? The super terrible capacitor life at 8760 hrs @25C compared to those nice caps with 10,000 hrs @105C? High ripple and noise? Narrow operating temperature 0 - 35?
Bingo.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Lol. I still strongly suspect that the 88% efficiency, 600mV ripple etc are absolute worst case minimums. I would not be surprised to see 92% efficiency on your bench. Still though, I wouldnt touch any cap that said "8760 hrs @25C", thats basically like ~550hr at 65C, which is probably the internal temperature at full load. (judging by the 60C case temperature of the framework 180w.) Literally a time bomb.
is this 2024 review product only or all the adapter u own and you pick it on each category?
It's of everything I've reviewed (and consequently own). As I said, I could find a better one tomorrow.
Samsung discontinued theirs before you got to test it.😂
hah, yeah. That's okay. I haven't heard much about Samsung at all. The quality of the Samsung tablet I bought was not good. I was trying not to go all apple but yeah maybe I'll have to give Samsung another try.
@AllThingsOnePlace apparently it's back in stock? No longer discontinued. Supposed to have 5 mw of idle power consumption but the current model doesn't have good reviews .
Have you ever thought about building a charger yourself? With your knowledge of parts to use that are of great quality, you could become rich and famous 😅
Yeah, it's a monumental effort and it may not even be possible anymore. China is really far ahead.
I’m I. The UK so this is useless as your all 110v
Ikea SJÖSS is 100-240v
I do more detailed testing in the long form videos. In general, idle power is a bit higher and the efficiency will climb a little bit on 240, but the adapters are the same. Some don't do that, Apple 70W, it gets a little worse.