Do YOU Know the BASICS of Mid Lane? (SKILL TEST) - League of Legends
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- Test Your MID Lane MASTERY!
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Mid Guide: In today's guide we'll be running you through a laning phase where we'll often ask you questions about how to play mid lane to test your skill to see if you know the fundamentals of laning phase in league of legends.
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Sivir mid is not recommended btw 😅
Noted
;)
Ok cool I guess I’ll use it then 😅
Even better,
Been playing Sivir mid as a fairly viable mid for a couple of seasons. Seeing a talon or fizz not being able to roam is quite funny.
"I know I can kill her there", survives with 1 hp. Calculated.
It was actually 1hp
Even if he dies its still worth it
Even if he dies, it is worth h since ori loses the wave. Its how hashinshin can feed and win every game
@@sloesty same for Buas
@@MHellstrand You're right. AI level of precision right there.
Well in all questions i was thinking about enemy jungler, since i get ganked lot x)
Informative, game knowledge really helped on this one. Got all the answers right. Just curious though why graves didnt juat come back after you pushed again, usually in ow elo they seem to force it again
Graves is useless without red early, he should have started on red not blue
actually in low elo drakes are pretty high ranked for junglers so forcing a gank botside is just far more shiny for them to get a drake. you can even see that happen at the end of the video on the minimap.
as he said, he should have warded earlier. That first gank shouldn't have even worked because he would have seen graves coming. Plus if the graves ganks a second time, McBaze was still sitting on flash and has a big health advantage over the Oriana. Graves ganking a second time, would be a mistake
@@MeNumber47 no i get that, im just surpised becuase if it was me, that graces would have insta turn around re ganked and wasted more time.
Great Video, but would love to see this in a more commonly played mid lane matchup like Akali vs Syndra or like Control Mage vs Assasin :D
What I'd love to see you guys do is a guide on how to enter and execute team fights as a melee bruiser, especially when you are the only frontline. Like when to flank, when to front to back, when to stick to front, when to pull off a fight and when to continue/dive. When to know that you can possibly turn the outcome of a fight that may seem lost already etc, those moment when you kinda close your eyes and hope for the best. I think having some basic knowledge to stick to in those situations would help calming down and execute these fights better.
That is something which IMO is just practice practice and practice. I recommend playing arams, although u don't have the TP flank etc, it's a nice way to limit test. I also recommend watching streams of that champion of EUW/KR GM+
@@xenobladefanboy1340 yeah that's what I already do, and yeah that's kinda what I've been feeling like, getting used to it and it'll come with just pure xp but, as far as aram are concerned, I don't even get to play my champs, you can't flank, can't use walls, blast cones, also if they're 5 poke mages your chances of getting a proper engage are so limited
@@amjadtahir45 yeah you're right about the arams. I generally give that tip to improve teamfight overall.
@@xenobladefanboy1340 euw>na?
I did pretty decent understanding the questions and what to do next. Not all of them right, but at least im getting there. Another great guide!
Dk about sivir mid, i still prefer ma boy nunu here
I'm happy that I passed the test, all the skill capped vids helped a ton. thanks!🤗🤗☺
How dare you giving us old season footage. Embrace season 11, season of snowball and one shot
Preseason will get patched a billion more times until it's remotely balanced.
fundamentals not chnage this about wave management dude even he show a game from s6 its still ok because fundamentalls always the same for each season
Videos take time to make mate, im sure they are preparing videos in s11 but old videos are still usefull, u can use the fundamentals in this video in season11 no problem.
@@termineitor828 yeah it was a joke sir
if it was S11 game would be over after the first kill
Answering these questions correctly feels so satisfying. Guides paying off.
The guides pay off when you climb, not when you answer tests correctly that are based on the guides.
I actually thought i was a good midlaner until i start to see your videos, you helped me a lot
wow i actually got everything correct, i was pretty surprised, this is great; it goes to show just how far i've come thx to watching videos like this from skill capped on utube. Thx for everything you all do and plz keep it up =D
okay, congrats now uninstall the game
@@itsdeadface5727 Why you dont wanna queue against me huh bro - you that scared huh
bro, i'm from brasil but i'm still considering buy the skill capped service, i know every step on this video, and i'm really happy with this, thanks SC
Every time video asks: what should I do now?
Me: I have zero idea dude
This is pretty much most of my lane thanks to the videos I early watch. But for me and I believe many others if not most is. How to play the mid game. When to roam, where to roam, should I stay mid all game, should I follow roams, when to follow up,how do I deal with a fed bot. I seem to be winning losing game a lot.
the team is actually pinging because they've been watching your vids. Great help btw 👌
D1 midlaner here and still didn’t know these tips. Hopefully they help me to reach an higher ranked
Your not a d1 midlaner for sure if you didn't know these basics LMAOOOOOO
such a team diff :D Orianna was iunting like a bronze while amumu was smurf pathing into enemy jgl :D
1:02 this is the thing I most struggle with.... I feel like I can never use my minion advantage to my advantage TwT
more of these please
I'm curious as to what you were thinking regarding graves' position as you went for that final dive. You were very dead if he was in the area, so i was wondering if you were able to discern his location through jungle tracking or if you spotted him on the minimap some time prior to the dive. You had no vision anywhere on the map and graves wasn't ganking your overextended lanes.
Seriously, there's other key aspects if the lane that they never talk about and think low elo is just really really terrible. It's not as bad as they think. Sivir gets a kill, runs into Graves, graves kills her, now the Graves jg has a kill adn can influence other lanes better. Or she fucking dies under turret to the Orianna, now the burst AP mage has a kill and the lane MIGHT be over because it's very eays for Ori to set up a kill for Graves once sh'e six. Sivir either has to spellshield the QW burst, or spellshield the ultimate.
I LITERALLY answered all the questions right :D. gold euw. awsome guide ty
Just wondering at 5:43 why not just back? It's a cannon wave into the tower and I think you get a free recall, come back with another dblade or just cull depending on how you wanna play the lane. Wouldn't that be better?
It would be good, but not better. Staying and pressuring gets him and his team more than taking a good recall. Normally you would take the recall because staying is too risky, but in low elo he is free to do what he did there.
he might have in high elo, but in gold you dont get punished that hard for things like that.
As a bot lane you can do this since u have a long lane and low presence on the map. As a mid you want to use the push to pressure... Not to get an item
In a scenario where he plays assasins and is getting a free wave crush from a random ori roam, yes he shoudl base there
In a scenario where he is losing sivir vs orianna and manages to crush the wave, yes he should base there
In THIS scenario where he is winning the lanne, he musnt stop presuring mid. He had to quickly ward raptors and go back to lane
The wave is too small, ori would have enough time to push it back and crash, resulting in a net loss for you + ori gets to breathe.
Yay, I got all of them right. It was indeed very basic, but it's good to see that I got my fundamentals down. :)
Nice, I feel like I'm improving alot lately, got them all right :)
looks like i know my fundamentals. now if only i could apply them
this video feels like a personal attack i used to rock sivir mid all the time >.>
high silver/gold 4 0 lp player, didn't answer anything wrong but for every single decision that was brought up, there were more points in favor of the decision than I had considered. That's interesting.
Has the website already set quality settings for the videos? So I can see them at 360p.
After the bf sword is it worth it to freeze and not let the other midlaner farm? Or is it just better to push and roam
very cool B)
actually a really good video. after watching all of your previous videos, i'm glad to say that i actually nailed every question here! love u stay cool!
can u do Do YOU Know the BASICS of support please and thank u for the video
Granted in game I feel I would suffer a bit more decision wise but from a third person view I can happily say I got it :D
Almost got all of them except the last one since I opt to freeze rather than slow push.
freeze is also ok if ypu are frewzong with an explicit desire to harass her wheb she gies for cs and then slow push it and are aware if your pressure needs
Freez it’s actually the play since going in with and adc and against a Graves jg is way to dangerous
@@thesasukex777 Oh, so I guess I'm right then since I'm assuming I'm playing in an equally skilled lane.
Freeze is not possible here, you're required to do something with the slow push
@@NinetyK7 like dying to graves
I just could answer cause i saw all ur previous videos thisyear jaja
I got a question. I'm new to mid and keep losing games due to a bad team mates, how do I help them and win games?
i must admit this channel has helped me grow for almost a year, but i lack some more "higher elo" content as i've been stuck in d3-d2. Most of the content is heavily reliant on gold elo (which is where most people are, true). My eyes bleed watching orianna and i am completely sure i can smash her too if i smurfed in gold elo, but these are major mistakes that are easy to punish paying a little bit of attention. The higher i've climbed, i noticed that lanes are won out of tiny mistakes that are hard to identify while playing and i wish i could see a video about those soon. Anyway, the content you provide is still 10/10, dont get me wrong
HI
may we know the runes you guys use in different matches in every game?
But wouldnt it had been better to use your q on ori at the third wave and slowpush it so you can build a big wave and trade 1 for 1 since she should be really low?
Im low woo but I’m good at guessing when someone is going to throw abilities I used to Point blank flash yasuo tornado
Got em all right 👍🏻 (except for warding question)
Wards don't give dmg, dw
Well now i would like to see this same matchup from smurf orianna side. This ori made lots of mistakes but what is best thing to do when u are getting outpushed? Should i just wait under turret and farm with my long range ability? Should i call in my jungler to help me?
6:10 In low Elo sometimes if they ganked and didn’t get anything they will scan ward in a bush and wait for you to push to get another gank from your back. If they failed the gank again they’re going to do the same thing. Until they get you killed. I think that’s why lower elo jungler has poor cs, but it’s really annoying for lower elo player to deal with ganks every 20 seconds
I think me getting these questions wrong is less due to my lane knowledge and more on my general League character knowledge. I barely know anything about any of these characters XD
Lol is a lot to take in and I’m still learning. I’m only now starting to take it a bit seriously with my Heimer doing work suddenly. Like, I picked him up and it’s like I’m a natural with him.
I don't think Heimerdinger is that much of a hard champion to understand. It's really really hard to get punished in lane.
@@Gloriankithsanus oh yeah. Heimerdinger feels so natural for me to play.
your videos are soooo fucking good, thanks a lot!
1:10, can someone explain why sivir need to push? If sivir win extended trade, shouldn't sivir be letting the wave push to her so she can run enemy down like yasuo, darius, irelia, jax...???
thank you
Maybe because Im just silver 4, but wouldn't it be better to just freeze at 8:10 ? It could also deny CS for Ori, prevent ganks and wouldn't have the risk of executing a bad dive
Isnt Orianas passive negating your statement of extended trades are better though?
I answered all the questions right but in game i just dont do those things right yet
yes
got all of em right, which is nice but i suck at implementing them
Idk about diving lvl 7 with no vision on the enemy jungler and making it out with 1 hp (while amumu is doing drake).
now I know it all!
5:18
Low elo, so I just outplay
6:01
Yes people do this in low elo
6:19
wtf
damn i really be watching skill capped too much
6:00 I agree with this tip but I don't think this thought process is really viable in low elo where team play is basically non-existent.
I love the first song in the video but can't find the name
the last choice differs very much from the champions, becausenyou could also crash the wave and roam bot
i've got a question: in mid, should you focus on harrassing the enemy laner whenever possible or helping your jungle get objectives?
Im not that experienced with the game but from my understanding, it would depend on what elo u are in/other factors like champs but i feel like in high elo vods, I see mid laners stick with their jg more and play with their jg a lot more (from helping them take scuttle/amking sure they can do it safely by being there to following ganks to deep warding) - in low elo i rarely see that - but i think its good to help ur jg - because objectives lead to u winning the game - kills in the end are a way of getting gold and putting behind opponents but they ultimately allow u to get objectives and win the game right - so I think priositising fast rotation and working with ur jg to get objectives and gank other lanes so u can get the rest of ur team ahead is good - say ur jg gets invaded and u go help out (ur jg dies but at least u kill enemy and get a nice big fat double buff) - it can work for u - but like dont play the comprimise game where u try and help someone super behind and end up feeding the already fed ahead carry on the enemy - maybe instead focus on ur win condition - as a mid laner u wanna help the lanes who will carry get ahead - sorry long rant but hopefully this helps/gives u food for thought - would be cool to hear what others think/learn from others too! :)
On other thoughts tho - if u harass and push ur lane and have lane prior u should be able tp help ur jg as a bonus/get to skirmishes faster and be more healthy in comparison to ur mid opponent if they chose to follow.
Check this out tho if u want more info: th-cam.com/video/TPHmAmdGGpg/w-d-xo.html - hes also got a vid on trading (th-cam.com/video/_Svz3EqoGTM/w-d-xo.html)
@@auriels1451 problem with that is: other midlaners will also help their junglers and/or if its for example a katarina, there are chances it will go bot and get a double for example and from that moment, its a snowball. I know it depends on what champ i am going against but if it was for example a syndra that goes well with either of those strategies, then which one should i focus on?
@@auriels1451 thanks btw for sharing your knowledge
why when i answer correctly the answers i am not using them in the game and when i dont i use them? HELP
You have the knowledge, but you're not using it. Just these videos brought be from Silver 3 to Gold 1 easily and I'm hitting Diamond promos now.
@@arcadenine8026 can you explain which particular videos?
No. Every 10 of so games try to focus and make sure to do 1 thing after 10 games only using 1 trick and I mean 1 like getting level 2 or right position then you can move to another trick and do the same. If you don't try to change something every 5 games you start losing focus and feed
@@KonstantinosVasilakos basically, only use 1 trick for that game, after u mastered it, use other trick while auto piloting the 1st trick and so on
I’m bronze and surprisingly I got every single one of these correct. Maybe there is hope for me after all...
M8 if u got them all correct then u simply need to start using them ingame, no plats till plat 3 ever effectively wave managed while im climbing now
So apparently my problem is being to cautios and not pushing the lead enough. I would probably go for a cheater recall for a second doran blade at 3rd wave before warding against Graves. And I would also never go for that dive because I tend to consider mechanical plays with some random dmg calculations a coinflip. Even if you both die there it is probably good for you because you are not the one losing CS but why risking that when you can just go for macro.
How bout one of these but in challenger elo?
HOW EARLY ARE WE
Considering I'm on a 4 game loss streak, I need to see what I'm doing wrong.
8:48, can anyone explain how did he know that orianna can be killed here? Is it just from pure experience that u know fully well the hero's capability?
Mostly experience, and because he had r
@@emanuele4647 I see thanks
Got all right, and i'm main adc! But i'm also plat f
Got everything right, but I main jgl! And a pushing adc in mid is just free food, especially if he's as arrogant as Hector and doesn't ward! As soon as a one has a slow push I am there to gank and punish, but against me Hector prob wouldn't be as arrogant since I am a bit higher
can you do one for support ? :o
8:50 I think this tower dive is really bad, Sivir was literally 1hp because of the towershots, so Orianna almost got a kill on her as well and as she is lower level, that would have actually helped Ori more than Sivir.
That would theoretically be correct if it wasnt for the following:
Sivir built up a slow push. This means, that the moment she dives Ori, there are about 8 to 12 minions under the enemy tower. These minions are a garanty that if you get the kill on the enemy mid you will come up ahead. That is because when ori dies, she looses all that gold and xp, while her wave slowpushes back into sivir without her loosing more than like 3 cs. This is REALLY important and is the big strength of a slow push. So if you know that you can kill the enemy like this, you will always win lane, even if you die.
a little bit of correction. You're always saying "because this is low elo." Therefore, graves ganking mid and knowing it's location is not really an advantage. Again, since it is low elo, no one tracks jungle and that's not an advantage unless graves in the lane ganking their lane again, since it's low elo.
Since it's low elo, you can even reveal yourself in wards and still get a successful gank. I hope since you're always stating taht's low elo, you should've pushed the logic until the end and not only if it's beneficial to the guide.
I got everythung right but frome some reason I dont aply this in games
Nobody gonna mention the ward at enemy red?
This allows you to know Graves pathing through out the lane. When you say you should have warded, I am inclined to disagree. If you ward there, you will potentially run into the Graves as he is doing the gank, potentially losing flash. We know Graves is around raptors/Red, as he still hadnt shown on red when the ward timed out. From there it is 2 paths for Graves, either taking red into scuttle/krugs/gank or ganking into scuttle. Ganking is a decent option given the amount of pressure you're putting on midlane by being far up the lane. A good gank could secure 2x scuttle for the Graves. If we want to eliminate the ganking possibility from Graves we should position differently in lane. As we know where Graves should be, your positioning in lane ought to be opposite, so you should be botside of the lane. Alternatively, you can ping the red yourself and use your teams top/mid lane prio to invade the Graves. But, as you say, this is low ELO, so we dont need to play correctly to win...
I also see a lot of people commenting that they got everything right, which is great! I just hope that they also got the reasoning for the plays correctly, which is something that you guys at skillcapped should emphasise more imo. For example my reasoning for the slowpush is to get roams/vision/plates not to dive. The fact that i didnt consider the merits of diving Orianna makes my decision process flawed. It is not the answer which is important, but the reasoning behind that answer.
I hope that this criticism doesn't come off as cocky or anything, as I am genuinely a big fan of your content. I just want to see the content improve ever so slightly :)
Freeze dont be good tho on last situation? You can easly zone her poke and maybe kill
Only thing in the whole clip I wouldn't have done is dive her. If only because I would have died. I would have used my time to poke her a bit more get plate and then pull back to respect her ult. Gven that it is low ELO another opportunity to kill her would come eventually and I would still have a lot of pressure.
I am also not comfortable with marksmen so there is that xD
I mean sure i answered right but im trash at last hitting so im not going to be on bf sword on return.
8:13
Why not freeze the wave instead and force Ori to get closer and punish her when she does?
I hope a high elo player can answer me
That's what I thought. Freeze the wave, punish when Ori goes to last hit. That will make a slowpush eventually and then you can dive :P
Ori can unfreeze pretty safely (especially in mid lane), and she relies more on levels than Sivir does, so leaving her in exp range could actually let her catch up (at least between recalls). You need to kill her and crash waves in order to deny properly. It also lets you roam or get plates in order to accelerate yourself and not just deny her.
For this video, it was to show how to snowball the lane by yourself since in low elo you can't rely on your jungler to take advantage of your freezes.
@@spykeex69 Yeah, usually you can't rely on the jungler, I agree with you in that xD
If you freeze the wave, you can deny her a lot of experience and minions, yes, but by freezing you also concede lane priority. Ori could either fake roam to bait you into breaking the freeze, or actually roam. If she stays, she loses XP and minions, if she just roams she has the chance to pick up a random kill, so it'd be the best option for her. Alternatively, in high elo, she can call her jungler to fix the wave for her, or ping him so they can both invade the enemy while you're stuck freezing the wave (because if you leave the enemy wave might crash into your turret).
It's why freezing is generally not an ideal move to get a lead in mid lane, but it's viable top because of how far the lane is.
I was pretty good, but a low elo OTP cassio I think tanks are so punitive that I had to know all these
So what I learn from this is that you would have died if you dived her when you wanted to and not know she would walk up to lose more HP? :T
Is there a way to counter your 3rd mission? In one game i played vs a velkoz (as zed) and he kept pushing, thus i couldnt roam or do anything during the lane phase... any way to prevent this?
Bruh, you are playing zed. You have no mana = means you have more time to set up your lane. Use that time to poke Vel Koz a bit with your abilities (even if u miss some CS, in a melee vs ranged matchup first couple of minutes it is more important for the melee to trade than to farm) Once you grt Vel Koz to 50% hp u can go all in on him, maybe pop his flash/barrier or plain kill him - this will force him to play the lane more passively for the rest of the game (scared from you all in again while he has no summs) and give you a good amount of uncontested wave clear which will allow you to set up a slow push in order for you to roam efficiently without losing any more CS. Zed vs any ranged champ is the same bro - use ur manaless special powers... I really do hope this was helpful my man - although I really despise zed mid :D
also a tip against mages specifically (this is considering you are assasin mid) - never use your dodge mechanic before the mage uses their CC mechanic.Hold it. Most mages can't burst you down without their CC because their abilities are skillshots. You can usually win trade if you dodge their CC even if you only managed to hit your autos (which is rarely the case for a melee assasin). So - basically Oriannas, Vel Kozes, Viktors, Cassios - dodge their CC and win the trade.
@@denispetrov844 thats what i always try to do but the players are actually good (or perhaps i am bad XD), but tbh i always prioritized minnions over poke, but i will try it next game, ty
@@kutokutosan7637 well - I am saying this only for the first couple of minutes of laning phase. After you kill the rat once he is gonna just let u farm cuz he is scared of one shot :D
Ever had a teammate has deaths more than the minutes in the game?
Nope, because i am that teammate.
My bot laner lol.
Those times I went 0/20.
I knew all the answers...
I'm still bad at league.
6;40 i told my mid laner to do this we cood won earlier so i had to do it myself wich i should cuz i end up dying becase they saw me top ss mid died by my conter gank.So i told him to come with me cuz i know jg hona be there mid was neko had ulti had flash e2 sec something like that cd .So i die mid didnt do what i said we end up wining but at a 55:35 minute wich is prety long we cold win earlier.
OK. Now how do we play this lane if we cant ever land q?
Funny, since the Sivir rework she's actually got some play mid now.
How to win games as mid:
Step one: win lane (just watch some skill caped and you will be good)
Step two: spam gank a neutral or ahead lane (preferably bot because 2 is better then 1)
Step three: create pressure by split pushing
Step four: profit
Nobody follows basic laning here in Gold Elo in the Philippines
The problem is that even if i get all the answers right, in games people autopilot and that is something that needs improvement.
My first main was sivir mid :)
we want video for top lane
Wild rift will soon release for euw and na on December, will make Chanel to give us quality guide there
It wont release for na
@@bogdaj3834 mb read north Africa as north America lol
tfw you got all the answers right, but ur still stuck in Bronze (its actually just because I'm struggling to actually play enough games. 60% winrate isnt a lot when you get maybe 10 ranked games a week lol)
Wr>sr
Ori hard griefing by contesting cs on a wave slow pushing to her. If she just sat back she would miss a couple minions and collect rest under tower.
I know this but in game I m not thinking about it
Heh i played sivir mid with heal and fleet too
8:12 what will happen if we freezed this lane ?
He couldn't. The minions were even and closer to his side so the wave pushes automatically
its not a freeze, its slow pushing, because there are equal minions and its nearer to your tower, if there are 4 more enemy caster minion then yea, its freezable, freeze happens after you bounce your wave into the enemy tower, its slow pushing back to you and the enemy cant crash his wave into your tower.
Was that Amumu Hector?