"TRUST in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge Him, and he will make your path straight." Proverbs 3:5-6
how fascinating that Jordan has organically connected the necessity of believing in God to obeying Him perfectly. Yes, there is an objective truth. No, we do not uphold that perfectly. We all fall short. He fully understands what the reality of there being a God means-that there is a standard. But to not hit that standard doesn’t mean you don’t believe.
Believing is obeying though. God is is creator and redeemer, and as both of those roles he has moral authority over us. To say “we won’t be perfect” so we aren’t hitting the standard of obedience isn’t logical, because God knows the ones trying to walk in obedience and the once making excuses for not even trying.
@@iBMcFly Agreed, but Jordan here (I would argue) is conflating belief with obedience. You believe in God? Then you must be perfect! Because naturally you would act within God’s will. That’s my one hang-up with Jordan’s aversion to the original question, “Do you believe in God?” because it still feels like he’s avoiding the question. Yes, you believe, but no you’re not perfect. He doesn’t seem to think that both can be true.
I think that the main reason Jordan Peterson is saying this is because he know or he sees that there are a lot if people who say they believe but they don’t act it out. Sometimes you can’t even tell people apart from who believes and who doesn’t. Believing in God and his word is such a powerful responsibility or burden to handle, to act out what you’re called to do.
This is such a huge debate in christian circles but while you are expected to do your best, the bible goes on and on about how God's standard is *perfect* obedience, and that *no one* can do that. That is the very reason we need Christ and his sacrifice for us. Far too many people are self righteous and think they can earn it. That's the problem.
Why is God such a liability, you make him sound like an anchor to be dragged around. God is fun loving and easy going. If you think God requires a sacrifice, hard work etc then one of us has the wrong God, and it's not me 😂
@michaelbarry755 when we first come to Jesus you make sacrifice of the old man. It's true that it is a joy to follow the lord but don't kid yourself there aren't things we give up for the Lord.
@@michaelbarry755the burden doesn’t come from God (OP worded that bad), it comes from denying both ourselves and the temptations of darkness. The burden comes from the plague that is the old man, rearing it’s ugly head (as Paul alluded to). The burden comes from wanting to be with our lord and savior but still being in a body of flesh, walking the narrow road with and to he, the one truth and life. Taking up one’s *cross* is NOT easy, but we are told to do so in JOY, for our savior has overcome this world!!!!!
This is a sermon by all means. It’s truly self-reflective, humble, and implies an immense and true respect for God. This is what I wish to hear from pastors and priests in church.
One of the beautiful things about God "and there are many" is that you can pass on his love knowingly and unknowingly many times without a word spoken.
Wow dude…this is what I love about JP. I have the same kinds of feelings but the way he can formulate his thoughts into words and then in a manner where people actually understand is amazing.
He mumbled and stammered through the entire video, and you loved it because he sounds just like what you think. Sad. Maybe you both need to study Philosophy, Comparative Religion, and find some Path into actual Spirituality, you know, find out how to visit the Astral Plane and see how Heaven really works.
@@DJSilver88 Your lecturing me on my arrogance is rude and patronizing, and yet you speak of Brotherly Love. How does that compare to your readiness for Hate and Online Bullying. You know what Brotherly Love is? It is Fitting In. But what you are doing is Gate Keeping. Your Rudeness was intended to drive me away. Besides, I don't want to fit in. I am the TH-cam Messiah, to start off with, but Meeiahs need to lead. What good is a Messiah that is humble and never speaks up. Going Along With Everything will only lead to the Extinction of Humanity. Besides, being Arrogant lets me know who my Enemies are, and now I know who you are. You will get what you deserve.
This man never ceases to amaze me. One can take what one wants from these wise words. For me it places thought front and center and a question, how do we individually, privately ponder the question, what does God mean to you ? As we watch this dark cloud lifting above the horizon and our souls stir, now is a good time to answer it and be prepared within yourself for what is rapidly ascending upon all of humanity.
“What does god mean to you?” Nobody can seriously be impressed by this question or the concept behind it. It’s completely useless and gets us nowhere because anybody can just come up with some non normative bat shit crazy idea of god and say that’s what god means to them. It’s completely meaningless
He has the weight of his sin on his shoulders. None of us have the right to make that proclamation, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Dr. Peterson still has the veil over his eyes so that he doesn't understand the gospel. The gift of salvation is a free gift because Jesus Christ became sin for us. He died on the cross for that sin and 3 days later rose from the dead. Trusting in what Christ did for you will make you perfectly righteousness just like Christ is. God will forgive all your sin for what Christ did in our place. Don't trust in the sinner (to do better) and make things right. TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION. You will be saved from the wrath of God against all sin. Do you wanna be judged for how you lived or be seen perfectly righteous for what Christ did on the cross ✝️
Dr. Peterson has similiar feelings and priorities that I do. It sometimes feels like I'm the only one that understands and/or cares about the most important things. I feel the responsibility to lead my brothers and sisters to truth. Knowing that there are others brings me courage. Thank you Dr. Peterson. Thank you everyone
"I feel the responsibility to lead my brothers and sisters to truth," said every theist ever. And yet there is no consensus among religions, and within religions, on what the "truth" actually is.
He has the weight of his sin on his shoulders. None of us have the right to make that proclamation, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Dr. Peterson still has the veil over his eyes so that he doesn't understand the gospel. The gift of salvation is a free gift because Jesus Christ became sin for us. He died on the cross for that sin and 3 days later rose from the dead. Trusting in what Christ did for you will make you perfectly righteousness just like Christ is. God will forgive all your sin for what Christ did in our place. Don't trust in the sinner (to do better) and make things right. TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION. You will be saved from the wrath of God against all sin. Do you wanna be judged for how you lived or be seen perfectly righteous for what Christ did on the cross ✝️
@@elunico13 Do you wanna be judged for supporting an adulterous criminal for POTUS? (as most evangelicals are Repubs who are in denial about what the Bible says about rich men who worship money). I hope you are one of the few people these days who identify as Christian who actually walk the walk rather than just talking the talk..
If I could say one thing to Dr Peterson it would be this: Take heart, and continue to pursue Him as He pursues you. He will never force you into His presence because he loves you that much. And I actively pray for you, Dr Peterson (though I have the sneaking suspicion that I am far from the only one) My Hope is that you begin to see the sacrifice of Christ as an unwarranted, utterly undeserved gift that we NEVER achieve worthiness of by way of our own actions, regardless of how ethical or moral we believe them to be. Finally, I would tell you that you now find yourself in the very spot where C.S. Lewis once stood, trying to square the circle of what you have known philosophically, and the idea that a God could love you enough to forgive you, not only for what you have done.. but all that you might do. And all He asks is that you believe in His sacrifice by accepting His gift and then try as best you can (knowing you WILL fail often) to be that person you see as being worthy of even claiming belief in the first place.
I love you, Jordan! You’re my mentor in many ways. The first and most important step in belief is TRUST - to trust in Jesus to save you. Everything beyond that is the journey of faith, ie, reading/understanding scripture, historical evidence, discipleship, etc. These are not requirements of salvation, they are natural out growth of God through the Holy Spirit working inside us - each in His own timing and pace. To recap: Trust in Jesus to save you. Let Him change you from the inside out. John 3:16-18
@@belialpig3567 - there’s more historical evidence for the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ than any other event in antiquity. I challenge you to prove it didn’t happen. You can start by studying former skeptics Simon Greenleaf, C.S. Lewis, Josh McDowell, and Lee Strobel who all came to a saving faith in Jesus after failing to prove Him a “fictional character”.
Jordan is a beautiful soul, but also a brilliant example of how much the human soul fears love. In every interview I’ve seen of him, where god and the divine appears in him, he bursts into tears, and resist the grace that really wants to work, and be with him, as he teaches with grace without knowing it. He resists it, but is a great communictor of it.
Yes! This is my observation too, you put it perfectly. Breaks my heart. I so badly wish to see him ‘take up his cross’ and accept the grace God is clearly reaching out to him with
I think that his crying is the flesh of grace operating. We can feel it, recognizing, his “letting Christ into his heart” means so much more than it does for any of us, that him just considering it is more beautiful than almost anything any of us do all day because you see that he feels it all and knows it all - in a biblical way of knowing - in a way the majority of us can barely get close to. I just think his witness of considering the question is more Christ made flesh to all of us than anything any beleiever around us does or let alone says. So I don’t think at all that he is lost or that we need to, nor could we, save him. Christ clearly captivates his heart more than he likely captivates any of ours. Maybe we just let Christ captivate us the way he has captivated Peterson, and instead of praying for their relationship pray that we see Christ as he’s making himself so human and so knowable through JP. There is no doubt Christ has already won this man’s soul, I don’t think this is a doubt for those of us who love them both. Perhaps it’s like some of the saints experienced… they described the joy of the Lord being so overpowering that they would have died from the ecstasy of it if Christ himself hasn’t been sustaining them to keep them on earth. I think this man is so close to that joy, perhaps he couldn’t contain it. He as much as says so. The Holy Spirit is gentle… God is good.
As I listen to this man and I have heard him speak in other videos he sounds very compelling. Telling the truth of what he says and explains. He is crafting the words to bring his message to those who want to hear what he says. Now for me I want to say this. I have what I call not just a knowledge of the God but something more important. I have what I call a relationship with him. He treats me as his child someone who listens to him and tries to do what he commands. I am not perfect I am flawed but I know he loves me and I love him. He is more than God to me but he is my Lord and Savior who came to the world to save those who need him.
Jordan and Neichze had a real point. No one is able to obtain that level of virtue other than Christ. But that is the main point of Christianity, that Christ takes our place and we take His. He dies to take our unrighteousness and in response we get His righteousness to cover us. Then once we have been imputed with that Godly righteousness, we get to conform ourselves more and more into the image of it
I always love listening to JP...he's so great at challenging my thinking (in good ways), and he so danged articulate that I increase my vocabulary every time I hear him. He often puts words to things that I personally fail to articulate well. I must say, however, regarding the misquote at 9:15 and forward... Jesus did not refuse to be called "good." He was addressed by the man as "good teacher," and Jesus responded with, "why do you call me good? There is no one good but God." He was drawing attention to that word because the correlation here was accurate--Jesus is good because Jesus is God. Jesus was not unwilling, He never once denied His divinity.
He has the weight of his sin on his shoulders. None of us have the right to make that proclamation, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Dr. Peterson still has the veil over his eyes so that he doesn't understand the gospel. The gift of salvation is a free gift because Jesus Christ became sin for us. He died on the cross for that sin and 3 days later rose from the dead. Trusting in what Christ did for you will make you perfectly righteousness just like Christ is. God will forgive all your sin for what Christ did in our place. Don't trust in the sinner (to do better) and make things right. TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION. You will be saved from the wrath of God against all sin. Do you wanna be judged for how you lived or be seen perfectly righteous for what Christ did on the cross ✝️
@@71000bh Actually, Jesus is Himself the Word of God. Read John 1:1-14 for starters. The "He" and the "Word" being referred to there is Jesus Christ. He is God, and He is the Word of God. He didn't just convey the message, He is the message. This isn't meant as a reprimand, just to clarify. It's a pretty important distinction. 😊
I also came to the comments to point out how his misquote of Mark 10:18 causes him to get the whole purpose of the conversation backward. Far from being unwilling, that is a verse where Jesus is very plainly and specifically claiming to be God.
How to accept Islam? You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that And if you can’t bcz your family members Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
Wow Jordan!! The change that would occur if every " believer " would examine themselves in this way would be absolutey profound!! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!! God bless you and your family ❤
This man continues to think himself to Hell by needlessly parsing words that are palin to everyone to avoid answering the one important question on the planet.
How to accept Islam? You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that And if you can’t bcz your family members Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
@@Shanksz You missed a few steps. 1) Get a lobotomy so you will believe this crap. 2) Never read either the Bible or the Koran so you will not discover that while Mohammed claimed that the Bible was true, he then botched his retelling of every Bible story he attempted to relate. 3) Be stupid enough that you reject all the eyewitness testimony in the New Testament that Jesus is God who was crucified and returned from the dead in order to believe Mohammed's account 600 years later where M. claims Jesus was a prophet of Allah and WAS born of a virgin BUT is inferior to Mohammed himself.
@@ELMQ Your very bad allegory shows that you are a very chaotic thinker. You don't show at all why you think "Does God exist ?" is an improper question. THEN you tell an allegory that has zero relevance to that question. The proper analogy would be the atheist/skeptic who. like you, goes up to an ice cream stand and shouts loudly that ice cream does not exist while a whole line of customers are walking out with ice cream cones. So the first and most fundamental question IS do you believe in the existence of at least some sort of god or gods (or ice cream) before we begin to have a discussion. There is no point having a discussion about "flavors", tiny child, if you don't think there is such a thing as ice cream. It is a very different discussion with very different proofs and 99% of sane people do not even need to have that discussion. If you are one of the crazy minority, it is on you to make that clear rather than wasting the time of the 99% of us that are discussing flavors. If someone asks you the first question, they are just asking are you a foolish atheist. IF you are not and want to move on to the what "flavor" discussion, just say so. See that was not so hard, little ignorant one.
@@johnbreitmeier3268yeah but you can't force God to someone, when they are still searching and finding their own faith. He is very clearly in the mids of ahteist , agnostic and believer. The way he speaks out is more like he talks to himself, rather than to the audience. It's messy, in a way it's rather endearing when he's trying to find his believe.
God has proven himself to me through visions and overwhelming feelings of the peace that surpasses all understanding. I use to be skeptical but while worshipping one time I really tried to solo out and dedicate it to God and that’s when he proved himself.
I kind of laughed at the relationship I have with God because no matter how difficult I get no matter how angry I get no matter how hopeless I feel he always has a way of reminding me he's there and it instantly makes me feel so silly because I know I should be trusting in him a whole heartedly but instead I have faith in myself and I end up making a mess of my life and there he is ready to pick up the pieces.... I guess it's just funny that no matter how many times I mess up he never leaves my side and even though sometimes I feel like I don't he's always there for me and he's proven himself to me so many times.... Actually writing this has me tearing up in my car before work LOL God is good and I'm so thankful that he doesn't give up on me
I also once ate so much donuts I went into food coma. But do I treat farts, being too full with endorphines and halucinations as a proof for an entity? Hell no, I'm not retarded...
@@supergaugesicht9981God “exists”, I’ve met it. I 100% understand your doubts. I was a judgmental atheist up until the very moment where I met God. The thing is, the vision/feeling I had where more real then real life. It is impossible to explain, but I have never felt something more true. If you wanna try yourself, its probably gonna be a long and hard journey. You need to do a lot of reflection on where your emotions are coming from, and you need to look deep inside your unconscious mind. In order to look this deep you have to stop thinking, you need to totally empty your mind. If you do this you will meet God as well.
I genuinely believe that honesty is always the best policy while still struggling to be 100% honest. Or, an analogy that hits closer to home, I wholeheartedly believe that my physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional health and well being would be dramatically improved by following the principles exactly as they are laid out by my favorite doctor's diet, but I struggle every single day to stick to those principles. While faith should drive actions, wrestling with our actions and obedience is not only natural but inevitable, especially when it comes to perfecting an ideal in imperfect flesh, which is why God named His own people Israel, meaning to wrestle with God. And yet to give up on belief entirely is to give up on salvation entirely. “Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is.” -Blaise Pascal
@@franknuzzo2576 That's an excellent question. I would guess, and this is only my best guess, that Jordan believes the Bible might be the best book ever written with great morals and ingenious stories, but mostly metaphorical. I would guess that Jordan believes that Jesus might be the best human to ever live but does not see Jesus as a perfectly righteous God incapable of anything but goodness. Peterson appears to be chasing God intellectually rather than loving God with all of his heart, soul, and strength, the greatest commandment ever given. (Deu 6:5)
How to accept Islam? You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that And if you can’t bcz your family members Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
@@Shanksz The Muslim religion uses the religious history of the Christians and Jews and was *started 600 years AFTERWARDS.* That's like someone taking oranges from an orchard which has been around for hundreds of years... using those seeds to plant orange trees and then claiming to have the best oranges.
@@NTJedi That’s actually not true All religions is the same God sent prophet to worship him alone But Christianity worships there prophet Jesus that’s why god sent Islam to worship him alone
@@NTJedi I know that Jesus is a prophet not a god or son of a god Plz worship God alone don’t be in hell Look what God said in Quran Quran 5:72 And surely they disbelieved when they said: ‘Christ, the son of Mary, is indeed God’; whereas Christ had said: ‘Children of Israel! Serve Allah, Who is your Lord and my Lord.’ Allah has forbidden Paradise to those who associate anything with Him in His divinity and their refuge shall be the Fire. No one will be able to help such wrong-doers. Quran 5:73 Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment. Quran 5:74 Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
@@NTJedi How can Jesus be GOD Almighty in the light of the following verses? If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD. If Jesus was GOD, then why did he ask for GOD's Forgiveness in Luke 23:34? Luke 23:34 " Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." If Jesus was GOD, then why Mark 15:34 says "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" If Jesus was GOD, then did Paul say in 1 Corinthians 8:6 "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we VAclive." If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 Jesus said "Do not hold on to me, forl have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'l am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God. '" If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28 Jesus said "I do nothing of myself" ? Can't GOD do anything he wills? John 8:28 " Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things." If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than "? John 14:28 " Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than |." If Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 Jesus said "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit"? Luke 23:46 " And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said "And Jesus said to him, 'Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone"? Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good except God alone." If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus begged his GOD to have mercy on him and to pass the cup to death (kill Jesus in another words) before Jesus goes through the pain of crucifixion? If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 18:38 he didn't reply when he was asked about the truth? If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows? •..... If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus? Also see GOD's Spirit in the many others beside Jesus. (And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him) Isaiah 11:2 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. Mark 16:19 If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:31 Jesus told his followers that if he (Jesus) bears witness of himself, then his record is not true? If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30 Jesus told his followers that he can't do a single thing of his own initiative? John 5:30 " I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, Ijudge: and my judgment is just; because l seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:36-38 Jesus said that GOD had assigned him (Jesus) work and GOD is a witness on Jesus? If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:37 Jesus told his followers that they have never seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his voice? John 5:37 " And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape" If Jesus was GOD, then why did he pray to his GOD in Luke 5:16? Luke 5:16 "And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed." If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus fel on his face and prayed to his GOD? Matthew 26:39 "And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. If Jesus was GOD, then how come in Hebrew 5:7 he prayed and cried for GOD to hear him and give him mercy by saving him from death? If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John 1:18 he said "No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the FATHER'S side, has made HIM known." Where do you see Trinity in this Verse? If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John 5:37 he said "And the FATHER who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard HIS voice nor seen HIS form," Jesus and the GOD are different. People heard Jesus, but never heard GOD. If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 17:3 he said " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3 (Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.) If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:40 he said " But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham." If Jesus was GOD, then why in Numbers 23:19 he said (GOD is not a man neither the Son of man) " God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 17:25 he said ( and these have known that thou hast sent me.) "O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me" If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 15:24 he said “ But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Is the lord sends another god or messenger to guide people?
Brilliant! To take the stirrings of the soul & to make them sing & stand tall such that they mirror our own. That is probably the most comprehensive public colloquial answer I have yet seen to that question; a question that is taken by so many as solid when it is rather tricky. I love that he doesn’t collapse the question into its most expedient pathway. That he is comfortable scattering in a organised manner into multiple pathways to address the question. To summarise for myself & perhaps others he wonderfully gives us 4 options. Answer 1: The Privacy Answer 1) None of your Damn Business Answer 2: The Reframing Answer 1) That depends on what you mean by Believe - And although he didn’t say it explicitly I am guessing the same kind of reframing would apply to the concept of God. Given it can mean so many things to so many different people, secular or religious. Answer 3: The Comical Answer 1) I’m Afraid that he might exist Answer 4: The Suppositional Answer Suppose that you do What are you called upon What are you called upon (Christian) What are you called upon (Christian: Declarative & Embodied) 0) Act out (Spark of) Divinity 1) Logos 2) Sacrifices 3) Arc in Order 4) Burden of Being 5) The Garden 6) The Golden Rule I thought his distinction between acting out & saying or what I would say embodied and declarative was brilliant. Furthermore the Suppositional answer despite having heavy Christian connotations further brilliance & speaks to his understanding of The Bible in a Psychological Context. Often when I am asked this question I tend to answer with a variant of Answer 2. It is good to have some other tools in the toolbox!
I just want you to know Jordan how deeply loved you are by many... Thank you for being you and for doing God's calling even though you may not acknowledge yet that that is what you are, and have been doing! : ) Thank you for stimulating my mind and heart that has been much needed 🙏 Just want you to know that you are very much loved 💓💓💓 : )
@@colossihitmanPlease don't call this person arrogant my friend for it is not arrogance. If you had Godly wisdom then you would understand that he has been helping people better understand their minds and come to terms with reality in a healthy way and you would see that this clearly is in line with God's will for us. He desires all to live healthy and ethical lives in service to Him and one another. Friend, please think about what you post before posting it or I fear your words will be used against you. God bless you😊🙏❤
“I’m afraid He might exist and that’s the most comical of the three answers but probably the most accurate one.” Unbeknownst to himself, he just answered the question if you paid attention.
This was an amazing response from Jordan, he takes this question very seriously, as one should, and really challenges anyone who throws around their belief in God as some free moral superiority pass to actually look in the mirror and see if they're really living by their so called belief
desperation is the worst time to make a decision, you're brain isn't working efficiently and is clouded by many things. Its always funny to me how many people become religious when they've gotten thrugh a bad situation and this is somehow evidence that god exists and he loves you, if god existed you never would have gone through such suffering in the first place and god would have shown you the way without any need for you to become addicted to drugs.
Please don't feel discouraged by the comments. Only someone who has gone through a deep fall can fully understand what you mean. I'm a recovering atheist. Nihilism and arrogance were making me miserable. There is wisdom to be gained in despair. I wish you good fortune in your path and fortitude for redirecting up.
@@MTech07 you and everyone's subjective feelings towards their belief doesn't make it anymore true or reasonable than a child believing in Santa Claus and feeling the excitement during Christmas. I'm happy for all of you able to find joy and gratitude in an obvious lie, but I would sooner suffer than purposely ignore the facts and spit on reality. 'god bless.'
@@brianbridges8124this argument is always hilarious to me. "If God exists why do people suffer" is essentially answers within the first 10 chapters of the bible. How can God help someone who doesn't even believe that he's real? Often times God *does* show us a way that is least harmful and then we ignore it and choose what we want to do. When the consequences come we blame it on God or say he doesn't exist and do it all over again. Almost all suffering on earth stems from sin and what is sin? Seperation from God. In a perfect world everyone would do their best to avoid sin but unfortunately we do not live in such a world currently.
He's so much more Christian than many who are smug, setteled and confident..😆 All the encouragement posted here cracks me up. I've never heard a more humble and contientious person speak. If he's not right-with-God no one is.
It’s good to remember that this clip is from a lecture from a number of years ago, and that he has gone through a good deal since then and would perhaps answer the question very differently today.
Thank you! I love the high level of thought that goes into your responses, and the honest articulation. Just a thought: When one commits to 'knowing' God truly, that means in action, speech, and thought - in public and behind closed doors. It is fully understood that humans slip up from time to time - as God created our nature. However, when one's slip-ups become repetitive over a substantial duration, OR when they involve the abuse / manipulation of other individuals, you should realize that your flaw is foundational - and you should really do some repentance before you utter another prayer / show yourself to be a big believer in God to others.
Non sense, a lot of to say few. Believe and thrust humanity instead of imagination. There isn't a reason to support any type of religion. You only have to look at the past and today's hypocrisy to see that it may bring morals, but can we talk about all the blood and catastrophe any religion made ? oh but it did more good than bad ? and it wasn't us at that time, no you support something that did those horrible things, you believe in what others said but it can't be proven, but morals can be teach outside of religions. Believers forsake peoples, they are hypocrite, they think they are good, when every actions they make are selfish and egoistic. Because when you make a action that make others happy, you do it because it make you happy. So you only do it cause it make you happy. The good is in the bad and the bad in the good. People should be teach of how to be a better human, instead of a profiling of how good people should be by the say of a imaginary being.
@@arekisan5239 So you haven't listened to anything Professor Peterson has said in this clip, or any other lecture, I take it? I'll let you take your qualms up with him - would love to see him in a 'debate' with you XD Yes, human beings do bad and even terrible things. God has given us FREE WILL for a purpose. Even atheists do terrible things behind closed doors, and yes, even in public. Keep ignoring the good of humanity, and focus on the negative, see where it takes you my friend.
@@Beekind799 And you lack of objective sense. Morales and wisdom can be cultivate in the wrong way. And the hypocrisy behind religions is the worst there is on earth. Understand your humanity and perfect it for you and you alone. Help others because you know that you are hypocrite and egoistic and selfish. The actions you make are enchanced cause you understand them.
@bneihaneviim You freely choose to ignore the wrongs of this world. Which make you more hypocrite than others. Know the wrongs to do the goods at your best you could, if you don't do that your actions get affected negatively even if you don't see it. Peterson is a brilliant man, but he doesn't make you understand how the world is, he give his own experience so you can make something out of it. Everyone has to be better than yesterday with the amount of information they get. There is not yet one truth of how to be.
It is perceived (by me at least) he’d be a great preacher! God gave him gifts that can be used for his kingdom! How great it is that he is even considering to bring God into conversation on his platforms! 🙏🏼 PRAISE GOD
@Thawne1338 that doesnt matter, God gave us all different roles in the big scheme of things. He gave women the power to give new life. And none more prominent than Mary who was givin the title mother of God
Ten years ago I started doing exactly what he is talking about, garden and everything. I’m amazed every day. I pursued death for so long that when I found true life I changed. I am not who I was and still have work to do. Life is the Pilgrims Progress.
Look inside yourself, you will eventually meet God. And you will definitely no longer fear death. Working with nature or people is the best way to feel connected with God for sure
@@Softlol I embraced death, as many do, falling into a sort of nihilism and realized I was dead already and hadn’t truly lived. I was chaff in the wind. Now my roots are deep, my direction is clear, and I can stand tall in knowing that we all have a purpose. Own your past and help others learn from it. Love to you all!
@@denniscwarren very true! The past and future doesn’t exist, the present moment is all that is, and if you give it all you have you can enjoy every second of life! Even when it’s bad, you can use this as a tool to handle it! Hardship is a great learner, we should also appreciate hardship! Sending love💙
What an amazing fear of the Lord mr Jordan has. It cannot get any more serious and responsible than that. He searched and he understood the magnitude of God. And his doubts I understand so well. I was there once. God knows very well that even if we aim to do everything perfectly we can't reach it. But in His magnitude He came up with a solution. His love for us is so big that He wants us to reach this perfection, so in essence He want us to reach Him. That is why He gave His only Son, Jesus, that whoever believes in Him should not die, but have eternal life. In other words, be able to reach Him and spend the rest of eternity with Him. Jesus closes this gap that exists between God and us. We do us as best as we can, and Jesus, the intercessor, Son of God, God Himself, is there to do the rest. Imagine you are on your way to God, driving the highway to heaven, but your car broke down, so God sent His Son to pick you up xD It's that easy.
Except Jesus doesn't "do the rest" he pays in full for all the sins of those who believe, you get to go to heaven because of what Jesus did for you, and not because of what you did, put your trust fully in him and not on yourself.
@YYZUnderbelly described in epistles and elsewhere. They were already in an "in between" place called Sheol where Jesus personally brought them out during his time dead for approx 3 days.
Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Works based salvation is absolutely incorrect. We cannot bribe the Judge. Grace through faith was there all along in the scripture. Christ did all the work on the cross. Sin paid in full. Believe and receive His saving grace and mercy. Unfortunately Jordan like so many are still stuck in a works based theology where moral deeds must outweigh immoral deeds in order for God to provide salvation from damnation.
@YYZUnderbelly 1 Peter 3:18-19. Google still helps with this. At the time of commenting, I didn't remember where, this morning I straight up just Google search for it and bam. There you go.
Four years ago I nearly died in a house fire. I now believe in God because he saved me from dying that night. Trauma from the house fire led me to a stay in a mental hospital. I floated through the hospitalization with ease and through the miracles of grace I was placed in new accommodation in a very short space of time. I love my father Jesus so much for he saved my physical life ...I read his word regularly and can hear him talking to me in whispers in the dead of night. It brings me so much joy to see his works of creation around me every minute of every day To breathe his air alone brings tears of happiness to my eyes. .
As a Greek Orthodox, i totally agree. And i like and appreciate the perspective you gave. In fact motivating and self reflecting for all of us. The problem is, even if you wanted to, the society is making it almost impossible to act in Gods way.
In reality, faith is not a lifestyle choice "For by the grace of God you are saved through faith. And this is not from yourselves. It is the gift of God. It is not from works so that no one can boast" Ephesians 2:8-9 the path is narrow
That’s the precise word to describe his answer. It’s seems as though many of the commenters missed his point at @4:30 his stance is a humble one that avoids receiving undo praise for simply invoking “belief in God.” He’s careful not to use the Lord’s name in vain. Many think that principle only applies to denigration of God. It also applies to unworthy reference in a positive manner
Brother, the only necessary qualification for believing in God is being a sinner. "Not having the right" to approach him or the ability to please him is precisely the reason you NEED to believe in him! Belief is you saying - God, I'm not enough, and I'll never be: save me. Don't let the scandal of the cross become a stumbling block to you, precious brother - humble yourself before your Maker and Savior; throw yourself on his mercy. He will not fail to catch you, and in due time lift you up.
Jordan consistently fails to understand that believing in God doesn’t eliminate those of our appetites that are disordered. Real Christian’s believe but struggle to overcome sin every day. Sometimes we succeed and other times we fail. This is precisely why we understand ourselves as entirely dependent on the grace of God. Waiting until we are perfect to give ourselves to God is ignoring God’s call. He loves us and saves us as we are. He is demanding but at the same time understands our struggles in the way a good parent understands that kids will fail.
God isn't demanding, whoever told you this never knew God. God is fun loving, easy going, and frankly doesn't give a damn about your sin, because he's too busy loving life.
@@michaelbarry755You are a liar‼️ There's no truth in you, son of Cain, whose father is the master of deception. YHVH's Savior, Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, paid for the remission of sin with His stripes on the cross so that upon repentance, we may receive eternal life when we believe in Him. Yeshua died, so we may live. How dare you say that God doesn't give a DAMN about sin. Even a Kenite can seek God and repent of their sins. Get to know God, He wants to hear from you. Father is very forgiving❣️ I am the way, the truth and the life. JOHN 14:6
He isnt saying we shouldnt worship god while we are sinning or try to be better. He is saying claiming that you are a follower or a believer of him while having poor self control especially commiting big sins is not right. In essense saying u believe in god is saying u follow gods law strictly. If your lawless, u demonstrate that the religion is lawless and discourage disbelievers from coming toknow god.
@@michaelbarry755 “There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers” God doesn’t care about your sin?
Once you let yourself go and accept the Lord - become child like, as Jesus told us to be - these thoughts will vanish. I believe in God, but I am not perfect. Faaaar from it! But I do live in His mercy, thus I don't need to be perfect. In fact, I can't because I am a human being. I am sinful, but not a sinner. This is the core of what Jesus did. When He took our sins upon Him, we got freedom in return. We are free to be a believer even though we are not perfect. I've been a Christian all my life, but it is just recently (the last decade or so - I am now 45) that I have really gotten down deep in my faith; in my understanding of the mysteries in faith. And through that, I am slowly becoming a better person because I want to live my life like He wants me to. All of this time, I _know_ that when I die, He will welcome me into Paradise. Because I believe in God, that Jesus died and is risen - and I am here proclaiming just that. Therefore I have a claim in eternal life in Heaven, because Jesus said so. Look up "the man on the middle cross said I could come", a short TH-cam clip with Allistair Begg. That story tells everything there is to know about His mercy. People who is new to the faith, or are just starting to acknowledge their faith, are like babies. You don't serve a baby a platter of beef, veggies and gravy - the baby cannot process such food. In stead, we feed babies milk, then introduce solid food over time, then gradually the baby can digest "grown up food". And waaaay later in life, the baby learns to enjoy coffee. :D If you are new to the faith, don't expect to be able to handle steak just yet. It'll come, and maybe it will take a long time. But it'll come. I want to confirm something for you (and everybody like you), as a believer myself. Believe in God, and believe that all your sins are forgiven forever! Believe that you are a child of God and that you have His mercy. Just believe it, and become child like - let Jesus take the wheel while you take care of rowing, and your boat will find safe haven. Your life will be transformed through Him. Because there is nothing you yourself can do. That's what Jesus said in the verse about the camel and the eye of the needle. No acts will save you, only His Mercy. And that you shall have, now and forever! Amen! God bless you, my friend! :)
He’s not copping out, he’s conveying the gravity of what it truly means to believe in God. But the key thing he leaves out is Grace. We all fall short in the glory of God so how could we say we believe in God if we fail constantly? It’s by Gods love and grace that we can, he knows we will fail but it’s because of his love and desire to have a relationship with us that he allows to continue the path even after we fall.
4:42 Bookmark But that's exactly one the things that's so beautiful about religion, and about the meaning of the name "Israel" Life and faith are a continuous lesson Judaism, as far as I understand it, realizes no man can be of no sins, and 100% a saint. We have 613 mitzvot, which are sort of commandments. As I understand it, it's not that it's necessarily humanly possible to fulfill all of them, but the human struggle to do so, that comes from the beautiful and human yet godly desore to do so, is imo an important part of faith
He brings up a really good point. This was really well put and just shows a mirror. I fail all the time at being a Christian, so this hits the nail on the head. How much do you actually believe?
This is the most amazing example of prevarication I have ever seen. The only thing that is more amazing is the number of people in the comment section who seem to think that this man is the very definition of wisdom. Amazing!
Dr. Peterson, God has given you so much knowledge, and intelligence and understanding. Take God at His Word. We do deserve to by struck down - but His amazing free gift is eternal life through Christ Jesus. And, knowing that we cannot change ourselves to meet His standards, he places His spirit within us to transform us into the likeness of Christ - thus making us into Christians reflecting the person of Christ more and more clearly. He wants you to declare that you believe in Him, if you do - and He wants to help you to live like it.
Romans 1:21-22 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Being a Christian is not something that one would keep private if he realises what a great miracle had happened in his heart. A born-again Christian is an earthen vessel carrying a power that's too great for him/her to carry it by himself/herself. That's why we need the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us to keep us humble and from going astray from the Lord. It's also the word that does the changing and renewing of our minds, just like Hebrews 4 vs 12-13 reads: "For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account." I wish you lots of blessings in your growth as a Christian and that you may find grace in how to give God all the glory by the influencing of the society all over the world with the wonderful talents and gifts that He bestowed on to you! 💛🙏
YES! Keeping your “faith” private is actually quite Anti-Christ because God calls us to be salt of the earth. We are useless if we just keep the salt locked away in the cabinet, AND it is not up to our own ego to decide how much saltiness gets served and to whom
Thank you for this teaching. It is by His grace that we are saved when we commit our lives to Jesus and the same grace enables us to live according to His standards.
How to accept Islam? You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that And if you can’t bcz your family members Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
@@JoyfulUniter That does not make much sense to me. What value would obedience have if it is not a free choice? It seems to me that in any case, God would want us to obey out of love for him, not out of fear or because we are forced to do so.
@@nicolasvasquez8048 He wants to be your friend it's a relationship not slavery. You get what you want. God gets what God wants, everyone wins. Obey is what a slave does, and God never wanted slaves.
@@nicolasvasquez8048 Recontextualize it, what would God want for you if he was your friend and not some overlord? For both sides to be happy, and get what they want, like a friendship, right? Consult your own heart on it, ask God yourself f*** what I think he told me that.
@@JoyfulUniter But it isn't only slaves that obey. Children that respect, love or fear their parents obey. That doesn't make them slaves... because in the end it is a choice they have to make on their own. And we are children of God, not friends. If a father proves himself to be worthy of your respect and love, then you simply obey... And I don't think there is anyone more worthy than God. Anyway, that's what I would say if I believed in God. Good night... or morning if you're from the other side of the globe.
We all fall short, but we do our imperfect best. When we fall, we listen for Him and He never fails to come and raise us up. And so we live as strangers and pilgrims, always looking for that heavenly country whose builder is God.
Sometimes you don’t have to ask a lot of questions or questions yourself so many times. We just have to let God speak with silent prayer no words. Detach everything from your minds and focus only to him and wait for his glorious divine present.
@@greghefley3626 He revealed a verse to me: Massages 23:12 "I, Lord Zues, The king of kings, The God of Gods, The one whose feet encompasses all heavens, I command you to be worthy of my fruits, For i shall not bear the weight of the world for the unworthy" This verse is highly encrypted and there are hidden massages all over, but he also mentioned, he'll come back to reveal more information about his absolutely true divine existence.
I had an awakening yesterday. A mix between the holy trinity. It feels to private to talk about my meeting, or god reaching out to me. I had a moment of this epihihany? fullfilment, all pieces fit. Im a 30 yr danish man. Longing for the values you discuss, and for years, maybe sure , god? Never thought of religion doing impact on me like this Jordan. But I actually believe, god reached out and touched my soul. A flash of symbols/sign. My town church. America and individuialism / nature in its rawness and truth. I've come to admit now, after yesterday. That im not sure, but it sure feels like i had a very impactfuld meeting with a higher power. I think god told me, Casper - You are good enough, you are beatufil. Im going to a priest today , and i see this scary thing. Telling my mom, friends, anyone. Like I feel like i woke up.??? i must think for long and talk for long and see. but thank you Jordan. I needed this in my life, and somehow i feel transcended. filled with love, encouragement and no need for bad habits, joy,fullfilment. satisfied. - the narrative is so beautiful in so many ways in many religous stories. I understand, that i dont understand, and i must listen. just listen. i must not push my beliefs and would never upon others, before im sure of what i feel - In other ways, political systems, and conections understand of language wokeness also ringed a bell in this ephinany. Dancing with wolves, america , my own country denmark. Our history and religion therin symbols/signs/virtues.- there is def a sort of wanting this for me.
I love Jordan to death, and he is right to say that you must properly clarify a question before answering it. But at the same time, this is the definition of question dodging. If someone less wise and well-intentioned than Jordan were to do this, people would tear him apart.
He didn't dodge the question in this instance because it wasn't actually asked in this instance. He merely discussed it and what it could potentially mean and why he doesn't like it.
I totally share this feeling with JP. I don’t feel I have the right to make that proclamation. My Lord, my savior. I’m too sinful and don’t feel I deserve that honor.
Hi Dr. Peterson. I wanted to tell you what God revealed to me about belief. He let me know that on earth things are upside down. The world says see and then you will believe. God's kingdom says believe and then you will see. It is a complete paradigm shift. Faith is the currency of God. Without it you will not know God. I assure you Dr Peterson God exist. He is very real and the spiritual realm is more real than the physical realm. It is permanent and eternal. I experience God everyday. Love in Christ.
Because there is no believing in God, there is only knowing God, as in the consummation of an ever present relationship that each of us has to come to know for ourselves 🙏💛🙏
Ohh man... he really has a very "special" talent for taking what is considered to pretty much everyone as just a fairly common, simple question "Do you believe in God?" Now Dr. Peterson just added so much weight to that question, it has exceeded the maximum limit of my current brainspace... so I'm gonna have to go and unpack some of that before I can safely allow any response to depart the hangar ya'll...🤯
Jim Caviezel, the "Sound of Freedom" actor, has stated the problem today is more people are afraid of the devil than they are of God. The 'fear' of God is the beginning of wisdom. That is a reverential esteem for His Word that requires an embracing response of It that delivers us from our own nature.
Jordan Peterson is grappling with the most profound truths, and people who want him to just declare his faith (or lack thereof) are utterly missing the point. Belief (or disbelief) in God is a staggeringly complicated thing, and people (believers and unbelievers, both) who do not acknowledge that complexity are deluding themselves and perhaps taking comfort from their delusions. For myself, I am in awe of how hard and how brilliantly this man struggles to discover, understand and cleave to truth.
when people think about god their brains give them dopamine (happy chemicals). The loving feeling you're feeling is just your brain giving you happy chemicals. The feeling is real even though the supernatural entity is imaginary.
This illustrates the problem of those who do not believe in God making up what they imagine it means to believe in God. Sitting in His seat as if they can think as God! Believing in God means He teaches you what that means through living as His Child in the only Church which He established. The Eastern Orthodox Church.
You can meet God, everyone can, you just have to look deep inside yourself. In order to do this you need to have been working on yourself and have control over your emotions and let the notion of your ego “die”. I have personally met God, it is the single most life changing experience I’ve ever had. So far it has (still) cured me of depression and anxiety among many other things. It gives you a new understanding of everything. (and yes, I know this sounds crazy).
There is a surrendering that takes place in belief. A surrendering that says to God “I cannot but I know You can and I’m giving it to you”. It’s an understanding of the grace of God and the work of the cross.
Hi, Peterson I know you will see this comment of gratitude and appreciation for changing my life....I dont know why I am here to be honest, bu deep down I know I am supposed to be here. Its your Black suit on Mauna Loa that brings me here... I've watched all your videos and picked every single Letter coming out from your sacred temple 🫶.❤ . Your words are like White lights in the darkness. Listening to your words of wisdom reminds me of my grandfather Kha and his brother Mekhe. Its a very long story I wont border you with. Forever in your debt ❤❤❤... I recalled one of your lines you mentioned something about LOVE. And I quote "LOVE is the Universal TRUTH, and it exists EVERYWHERE, even in the depth of Hell".
So Mr. Peterson I think I am genuine person who is indeed qualified to not lie about my experience and admit that I know that God is good and that God is real.
You know Jordan..I believed in..loved and feared their just punishments. And with all that I was still tempted to be willful! My parents loved me..and I counted on that. God loves me..and I count on that!
basically, he's saying 'you shouldn't be allowed to say you believe in god using words, if this belief isn't consciously reflected in all the actions you take in your life'. most people throw the 'yeah i believe in god' too easily around, without actually having a behaviour that reflects that in their life. this is a great lesson for hypocritical religious people but I think that people who really need to understand this, won't understand it. to me it seems that his language is way too complicated for those people, and the people who do understand this idea are probably sophisticated enough to not throw it around like that. i'm not religious at all anymore but I grew up in such a family. they too suffered from this 'disease' jordan talks about. i do however believe someone can be in service of society (that's really what religion is all about anyway, the rest has absolutely no proof/logical grounds in reality) without the belief in god but they need to believe humans are a net good (or could be, if instructed properly).
For anyone wondering, this means that, for all intents and purposes, his answer is YES. His answer to the question asked the way a simple person would mean it is YES. He is just being intellectually honest and humble about it. I mean, he surely is NOT an atheist. He would never assert that there's no God. He surely does not NOT believe in God. It's just that the concept of belief is very tricky.
For the last three years I've watched and listened to you and your guests/lectures. You have come so far. I watched Jesus work on you. I prayed and prayed you would finally accept and truly step into the light the dioor the only way to heaven and the bigger picture. You're juat to smart not to. I knew you needed something big to finally nudge you to Jesus and Christianity. It's been an amazing transformation. When i watch you and your daughter do the interview and her wanting to even go as far as trying haciena ( i Hope i spelled that right probably not😅) to find a higher being or possibly God. I said to myself if they only knew they didn't need that to connect to Jesus. Short of it is for 3 solid years you've been more vocal about God until you got really sick. That too i believe had an affect in the lord working on you. Because only he can make something happen that really convinces anybody. For a lack of a better way to explain it. But the seeds were being water the entire time and it was amazing to watch and sometimes it was nail-biting and on the edge of the seat 🙏 to God somehow someway tp make you see and accept the water given to you to drink. We all lead you to the water but it was you that had to form that relationship with God yourself and ask him to come onto you and your heart. I see the difference. More and more when you would really get into it with your guests. But then something changed. At which poiint i said to a friend Jesus is working on Peterson. We actually had a chuckle then prayed for your salvation and that you would one day truly accept Jesus as your lord and savior. ❤
He’s working himself into a hypothetical intellectual hysteria. These questions are not complicated. Only confronting your answers legitimacy is difficult
It has to be incredibly difficult to be JBP. I have gone through this in my own head and to have to question everything so critically is so exhausting. Nothing is linear or simple…
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.” Proverbs 9:10
"TRUST in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge Him, and he will make your path straight."
Proverbs 3:5-6
Amen 🙏Proverbs 2:6For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding.
You only fear evil not God. That's an incorrect transaction from either the Aramaic or the ancient Greek.
@@sophiarevel6952no, It’s not. It’s fear in a different sense (holy reverence, more like).
@@SalvationIsInChristAlone that I can accept. But remember the bible has been translated from ancient languages.
how fascinating that Jordan has organically connected the necessity of believing in God to obeying Him perfectly. Yes, there is an objective truth. No, we do not uphold that perfectly. We all fall short. He fully understands what the reality of there being a God means-that there is a standard. But to not hit that standard doesn’t mean you don’t believe.
yes and therefore Jesus, and the Death and Resurrection.
Believing is obeying though. God is is creator and redeemer, and as both of those roles he has moral authority over us. To say “we won’t be perfect” so we aren’t hitting the standard of obedience isn’t logical, because God knows the ones trying to walk in obedience and the once making excuses for not even trying.
@@iBMcFly Agreed, but Jordan here (I would argue) is conflating belief with obedience. You believe in God? Then you must be perfect! Because naturally you would act within God’s will.
That’s my one hang-up with Jordan’s aversion to the original question, “Do you believe in God?” because it still feels like he’s avoiding the question. Yes, you believe, but no you’re not perfect. He doesn’t seem to think that both can be true.
I believe that what one says is more of their belief than what they do, in causalities or ego stuff or whatever.
Anyone who believes they obey God perfectly has deceived themself and does not understand the gospel
I think that the main reason Jordan Peterson is saying this is because he know or he sees that there are a lot if people who say they believe but they don’t act it out. Sometimes you can’t even tell people apart from who believes and who doesn’t.
Believing in God and his word is such a powerful responsibility or burden to handle, to act out what you’re called to do.
This is such a huge debate in christian circles but while you are expected to do your best, the bible goes on and on about how God's standard is *perfect* obedience, and that *no one* can do that. That is the very reason we need Christ and his sacrifice for us. Far too many people are self righteous and think they can earn it. That's the problem.
Those that are Real w GOD are not on TH-cam
Why is God such a liability, you make him sound like an anchor to be dragged around. God is fun loving and easy going. If you think God requires a sacrifice, hard work etc then one of us has the wrong God, and it's not me 😂
@michaelbarry755 when we first come to Jesus you make sacrifice of the old man. It's true that it is a joy to follow the lord but don't kid yourself there aren't things we give up for the Lord.
@@michaelbarry755the burden doesn’t come from God (OP worded that bad), it comes from denying both ourselves and the temptations of darkness. The burden comes from the plague that is the old man, rearing it’s ugly head (as Paul alluded to). The burden comes from wanting to be with our lord and savior but still being in a body of flesh, walking the narrow road with and to he, the one truth and life. Taking up one’s *cross* is NOT easy, but we are told to do so in JOY, for our savior has overcome this world!!!!!
This is a sermon by all means. It’s truly self-reflective, humble, and implies an immense and true respect for God. This is what I wish to hear from pastors and priests in church.
One of the beautiful things about God "and there are many" is that you can pass on his love knowingly and unknowingly many times without a word spoken.
Wow dude…this is what I love about JP. I have the same kinds of feelings but the way he can formulate his thoughts into words and then in a manner where people actually understand is amazing.
I think the same. His ability to express complex feelings into cohesive thoughts are impressive.
He mumbled and stammered through the entire video, and you loved it because he sounds just like what you think. Sad. Maybe you both need to study Philosophy, Comparative Religion, and find some Path into actual Spirituality, you know, find out how to visit the Astral Plane and see how Heaven really works.
@@leovolont bye boo
@@leovolontYour arrogance is sad and it lacks brotherly love to be useful.
@@DJSilver88 Your lecturing me on my arrogance is rude and patronizing, and yet you speak of Brotherly Love. How does that compare to your readiness for Hate and Online Bullying. You know what Brotherly Love is? It is Fitting In. But what you are doing is Gate Keeping. Your Rudeness was intended to drive me away. Besides, I don't want to fit in. I am the TH-cam Messiah, to start off with, but Meeiahs need to lead. What good is a Messiah that is humble and never speaks up. Going Along With Everything will only lead to the Extinction of Humanity. Besides, being Arrogant lets me know who my Enemies are, and now I know who you are. You will get what you deserve.
This man never ceases to amaze me. One can take what one wants from these wise words. For me it places thought front and center and a question, how do we individually, privately ponder the question, what does God mean to you ? As we watch this dark cloud lifting above the horizon and our souls stir, now is a good time to answer it and be prepared within yourself for what is rapidly ascending upon all of humanity.
I'm starting to invest most of my time watching his content.
Are we all up for the ascending truth? God only knows? 🙏
“What does god mean to you?” Nobody can seriously be impressed by this question or the concept behind it. It’s completely useless and gets us nowhere because anybody can just come up with some non normative bat shit crazy idea of god and say that’s what god means to them. It’s completely meaningless
He has the weight of his sin on his shoulders. None of us have the right to make that proclamation, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Dr. Peterson still has the veil over his eyes so that he doesn't understand the gospel.
The gift of salvation is a free gift because Jesus Christ became sin for us. He died on the cross for that sin and 3 days later rose from the dead. Trusting in what Christ did for you will make you perfectly righteousness just like Christ is. God will forgive all your sin for what Christ did in our place.
Don't trust in the sinner (to do better) and make things right. TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION. You will be saved from the wrath of God against all sin.
Do you wanna be judged for how you lived or be seen perfectly righteous for what Christ did on the cross ✝️
@@elunico13I guess you've never seen him talk about the Bible then. About how he talks about how it's truer than true.
Dr. Peterson has similiar feelings and priorities that I do. It sometimes feels like I'm the only one that understands and/or cares about the most important things. I feel the responsibility to lead my brothers and sisters to truth. Knowing that there are others brings me courage. Thank you Dr. Peterson. Thank you everyone
"I feel the responsibility to lead my brothers and sisters to truth," said every theist ever. And yet there is no consensus among religions, and within religions, on what the "truth" actually is.
You aren’t responsible for any adults actions. You can only live out the truth and Gods will for you and help those that are seeking along the way
He has the weight of his sin on his shoulders. None of us have the right to make that proclamation, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Dr. Peterson still has the veil over his eyes so that he doesn't understand the gospel.
The gift of salvation is a free gift because Jesus Christ became sin for us. He died on the cross for that sin and 3 days later rose from the dead. Trusting in what Christ did for you will make you perfectly righteousness just like Christ is. God will forgive all your sin for what Christ did in our place.
Don't trust in the sinner (to do better) and make things right. TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION. You will be saved from the wrath of God against all sin.
Do you wanna be judged for how you lived or be seen perfectly righteous for what Christ did on the cross ✝️
@@elunico13 Do you wanna be judged for supporting an adulterous criminal for POTUS? (as most evangelicals are Repubs who are in denial about what the Bible says about rich men who worship money). I hope you are one of the few people these days who identify as Christian who actually walk the walk rather than just talking the talk..
@@elunico13 AMEN!!! ❤️❤️
I can't speak for Jordan, i feel like he is on his journey to build a relationship and i think its absolutely beautiful ❤️
If I could say one thing to Dr Peterson it would be this:
Take heart, and continue to pursue Him as He pursues you. He will never force you into His presence because he loves you that much. And I actively pray for you, Dr Peterson (though I have the sneaking suspicion that I am far from the only one) My Hope is that you begin to see the sacrifice of Christ as an unwarranted, utterly undeserved gift that we NEVER achieve worthiness of by way of our own actions, regardless of how ethical or moral we believe them to be. Finally, I would tell you that you now find yourself in the very spot where C.S. Lewis once stood, trying to square the circle of what you have known philosophically, and the idea that a God could love you enough to forgive you, not only for what you have done.. but all that you might do. And all He asks is that you believe in His sacrifice by accepting His gift and then try as best you can (knowing you WILL fail often) to be that person you see as being worthy of even claiming belief in the first place.
god is a female
I love you, Jordan! You’re my mentor in many ways.
The first and most important step in belief is TRUST - to trust in Jesus to save you. Everything beyond that is the journey of faith, ie, reading/understanding scripture, historical evidence, discipleship, etc. These are not requirements of salvation, they are natural out growth of God through the Holy Spirit working inside us - each in His own timing and pace.
To recap: Trust in Jesus to save you. Let Him change you from the inside out.
John 3:16-18
Starkly beautiful and accurate.
@@Mr196710 - thank you!
how can you place trust in a fictional character?
@@belialpig3567 - there’s more historical evidence for the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ than any other event in antiquity. I challenge you to prove it didn’t happen. You can start by studying former skeptics Simon Greenleaf, C.S. Lewis, Josh McDowell, and Lee Strobel who all came to a saving faith in Jesus after failing to prove Him a “fictional character”.
@@belialpig3567 by recognizing he's not fictional of course
Jordan is a beautiful soul, but also a brilliant example of how much the human soul fears love. In every interview I’ve seen of him, where god and the divine appears in him, he bursts into tears, and resist the grace that really wants to work, and be with him, as he teaches with grace without knowing it. He resists it, but is a great communictor of it.
Fearing love makes as much sense as embracing being hated.
He still refuses to accept Christ in his heart, his not saved yet, it would be heartbreaking to lose someone like this to hell.
That is foolish thinking. Remember that only God knows his heart, do not attempt to judge him yourself when you barely know him.
Yes! This is my observation too, you put it perfectly. Breaks my heart. I so badly wish to see him ‘take up his cross’ and accept the grace God is clearly reaching out to him with
I think that his crying is the flesh of grace operating. We can feel it, recognizing, his “letting Christ into his heart” means so much more than it does for any of us, that him just considering it is more beautiful than almost anything any of us do all day because you see that he feels it all and knows it all - in a biblical way of knowing - in a way the majority of us can barely get close to. I just think his witness of considering the question is more Christ made flesh to all of us than anything any beleiever around us does or let alone says. So I don’t think at all that he is lost or that we need to, nor could we, save him. Christ clearly captivates his heart more than he likely captivates any of ours. Maybe we just let Christ captivate us the way he has captivated Peterson, and instead of praying for their relationship pray that we see Christ as he’s making himself so human and so knowable through JP. There is no doubt Christ has already won this man’s soul, I don’t think this is a doubt for those of us who love them both. Perhaps it’s like some of the saints experienced… they described the joy of the Lord being so overpowering that they would have died from the ecstasy of it if Christ himself hasn’t been sustaining them to keep them on earth. I think this man is so close to that joy, perhaps he couldn’t contain it. He as much as says so. The Holy Spirit is gentle… God is good.
Mr. Peterson in my opinion is the intellectually interesting person of our time. The more i listen to him the more I want to read and learn more.
That's DR Peterson to you lol
He’s just bullshitting. I’m sorry you can’t see it.
Thanks!
As I listen to this man and I have heard him speak in other videos he sounds very compelling. Telling the truth of what he says and explains. He is crafting the words to bring his message to those who want to hear what he says.
Now for me I want to say this. I have what I call not just a knowledge of the God but something more important. I have what I call a relationship with him. He treats me as his child someone who listens to him and tries to do what he commands. I am not perfect I am flawed but I know he loves me and I love him. He is more than God to me but he is my Lord and Savior who came to the world to save those who need him.
Amen well said! God Bless!
♥️
Needed that
How do you hear god?
Well why he put us into trouble in the first place
Jordan and Neichze had a real point. No one is able to obtain that level of virtue other than Christ. But that is the main point of Christianity, that Christ takes our place and we take His. He dies to take our unrighteousness and in response we get His righteousness to cover us. Then once we have been imputed with that Godly righteousness, we get to conform ourselves more and more into the image of it
This Lecture happened 4 years ago. Today, I believe doctor Peterson's response would be even greater.
I don't think this was 4 years ago, his exodus series is more recent I believe
His response these days would be closer to "I don't care what you believe, go to church. Fuck you."
@@lordiboy69 why?
@@lordiboy69This is your brain on CNN.
@@FrancisL2211 from what I've been seeing of him recently he's gotten very pushy on religion/Christianity
I always love listening to JP...he's so great at challenging my thinking (in good ways), and he so danged articulate that I increase my vocabulary every time I hear him. He often puts words to things that I personally fail to articulate well. I must say, however, regarding the misquote at 9:15 and forward... Jesus did not refuse to be called "good." He was addressed by the man as "good teacher," and Jesus responded with, "why do you call me good? There is no one good but God." He was drawing attention to that word because the correlation here was accurate--Jesus is good because Jesus is God. Jesus was not unwilling, He never once denied His divinity.
He has the weight of his sin on his shoulders. None of us have the right to make that proclamation, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Dr. Peterson still has the veil over his eyes so that he doesn't understand the gospel.
The gift of salvation is a free gift because Jesus Christ became sin for us. He died on the cross for that sin and 3 days later rose from the dead. Trusting in what Christ did for you will make you perfectly righteousness just like Christ is. God will forgive all your sin for what Christ did in our place.
Don't trust in the sinner (to do better) and make things right. TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION. You will be saved from the wrath of God against all sin.
Do you wanna be judged for how you lived or be seen perfectly righteous for what Christ did on the cross ✝️
Jesus was a messenger of God’s word.
@@71000bh Actually, Jesus is Himself the Word of God. Read John 1:1-14 for starters. The "He" and the "Word" being referred to there is Jesus Christ. He is God, and He is the Word of God. He didn't just convey the message, He is the message. This isn't meant as a reprimand, just to clarify. It's a pretty important distinction. 😊
I also came to the comments to point out how his misquote of Mark 10:18 causes him to get the whole purpose of the conversation backward. Far from being unwilling, that is a verse where Jesus is very plainly and specifically claiming to be God.
How to accept Islam?
You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that
And if you can’t bcz your family members
Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
Wow Jordan!! The change that would occur if every " believer " would examine themselves in this way would be absolutey profound!! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!! God bless you and your family ❤
This man continues to think himself to Hell by needlessly parsing words that are palin to everyone to avoid answering the one important question on the planet.
How to accept Islam?
You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that
And if you can’t bcz your family members
Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
@@Shanksz You missed a few steps.
1) Get a lobotomy so you will believe this crap.
2) Never read either the Bible or the Koran so you will not discover that while Mohammed claimed that the Bible was true, he then botched his retelling of every Bible story he attempted to relate.
3) Be stupid enough that you reject all the eyewitness testimony in the New Testament that Jesus is God who was crucified and returned from the dead in order to believe Mohammed's account 600 years later where M. claims Jesus was a prophet of Allah and WAS born of a virgin BUT is inferior to Mohammed himself.
@@ELMQ Your very bad allegory shows that you are a very chaotic thinker. You don't show at all why you think "Does God exist ?" is an improper question. THEN you tell an allegory that has zero relevance to that question.
The proper analogy would be the atheist/skeptic who. like you, goes up to an ice cream stand and shouts loudly that ice cream does not exist while a whole line of customers are walking out with ice cream cones.
So the first and most fundamental question IS do you believe in the existence of at least some sort of god or gods (or ice cream) before we begin to have a discussion. There is no point having a discussion about "flavors", tiny child, if you don't think there is such a thing as ice cream. It is a very different discussion with very different proofs and 99% of sane people do not even need to have that discussion. If you are one of the crazy minority, it is on you to make that clear rather than wasting the time of the 99% of us that are discussing flavors.
If someone asks you the first question, they are just asking are you a foolish atheist. IF you are not and want to move on to the what "flavor" discussion, just say so. See that was not so hard, little ignorant one.
@@johnbreitmeier3268yeah but you can't force God to someone, when they are still searching and finding their own faith. He is very clearly in the mids of ahteist , agnostic and believer. The way he speaks out is more like he talks to himself, rather than to the audience. It's messy, in a way it's rather endearing when he's trying to find his believe.
God has proven himself to me through visions and overwhelming feelings of the peace that surpasses all understanding. I use to be skeptical but while worshipping one time I really tried to solo out and dedicate it to God and that’s when he proved himself.
I kind of laughed at the relationship I have with God because no matter how difficult I get no matter how angry I get no matter how hopeless I feel he always has a way of reminding me he's there and it instantly makes me feel so silly because I know I should be trusting in him a whole heartedly but instead I have faith in myself and I end up making a mess of my life and there he is ready to pick up the pieces.... I guess it's just funny that no matter how many times I mess up he never leaves my side and even though sometimes I feel like I don't he's always there for me and he's proven himself to me so many times.... Actually writing this has me tearing up in my car before work LOL God is good and I'm so thankful that he doesn't give up on me
I also once ate so much donuts I went into food coma. But do I treat farts, being too full with endorphines and halucinations as a proof for an entity? Hell no, I'm not retarded...
@@supergaugesicht9981God “exists”, I’ve met it. I 100% understand your doubts. I was a judgmental atheist up until the very moment where I met God.
The thing is, the vision/feeling I had where more real then real life. It is impossible to explain, but I have never felt something more true.
If you wanna try yourself, its probably gonna be a long and hard journey. You need to do a lot of reflection on where your emotions are coming from, and you need to look deep inside your unconscious mind. In order to look this deep you have to stop thinking, you need to totally empty your mind.
If you do this you will meet God as well.
I genuinely believe that honesty is always the best policy while still struggling to be 100% honest. Or, an analogy that hits closer to home, I wholeheartedly believe that my physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional health and well being would be dramatically improved by following the principles exactly as they are laid out by my favorite doctor's diet, but I struggle every single day to stick to those principles.
While faith should drive actions, wrestling with our actions and obedience is not only natural but inevitable, especially when it comes to perfecting an ideal in imperfect flesh, which is why God named His own people Israel, meaning to wrestle with God.
And yet to give up on belief entirely is to give up on salvation entirely. “Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is.” -Blaise Pascal
Honestly, what does Jordan Peterson believe?
@@franknuzzo2576 That's an excellent question. I would guess, and this is only my best guess, that Jordan believes the Bible might be the best book ever written with great morals and ingenious stories, but mostly metaphorical. I would guess that Jordan believes that Jesus might be the best human to ever live but does not see Jesus as a perfectly righteous God incapable of anything but goodness. Peterson appears to be chasing God intellectually rather than loving God with all of his heart, soul, and strength, the greatest commandment ever given. (Deu 6:5)
That is a very thoughtful approach to that question. I cannot think of a better answer.
That’s where grace comes through, none of us are worthy like he said but God gives us grace in our pursuit
How to accept Islam?
You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that
And if you can’t bcz your family members
Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
@@Shanksz The Muslim religion uses the religious history of the Christians and Jews and was *started 600 years AFTERWARDS.*
That's like someone taking oranges from an orchard which has been around for hundreds of years... using those seeds to plant orange trees and then claiming to have the best oranges.
@@NTJedi
That’s actually not true
All religions is the same
God sent prophet to worship him alone
But Christianity worships there prophet Jesus that’s why god sent Islam to worship him alone
@@NTJedi
I know that Jesus is a prophet not a god or son of a god
Plz worship God alone don’t be in hell
Look what God said in Quran
Quran 5:72
And surely they disbelieved when they said: ‘Christ, the son of Mary, is indeed God’; whereas Christ had said: ‘Children of Israel! Serve Allah, Who is your Lord and my Lord.’ Allah has forbidden Paradise to those who associate anything with Him in His divinity and their refuge shall be the Fire. No one will be able to help such wrong-doers.
Quran 5:73
Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.
Quran 5:74
Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
@@NTJedi
How can Jesus be GOD Almighty in the light of the following verses?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29
Jesus said
"Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one
Lord." The words "our God" indicate that
Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger
God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God".
He said "our God" which includes Jesus as
the creation of GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why did he ask for
GOD's Forgiveness in Luke 23:34?
Luke 23:34 " Then said Jesus, Father, forgive
them; for they know not what they do. And
they parted his raiment, and cast lots."
If Jesus was GOD, then why Mark 15:34 says
"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a
loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"
which means, "My God, my God, why have
you forsaken me?"
If Jesus was GOD, then did Paul say in 1
Corinthians 8:6
"yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
from whom all things came and for whom we
live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through
whom we VAclive."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17
Jesus said
"Do not hold on to me, forl have not yet
returned to the Father. Go instead to my
brothers and tell them, 'l am returning to my
Father and your Father, to my God and your
God. '"
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28
Jesus said
"I do nothing of myself" ? Can't GOD do
anything he wills?
John 8:28 " Then said Jesus unto them, When
ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye
know that I am he, and that I do nothing of
myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I
speak these things."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28
Jesus said
"My Father (GOD) is greater than "?
John 14:28 " Ye have heard how I said unto
you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye
loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I
go unto the Father: for my Father is greater
than |."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46
Jesus said "Father (GOD), into thy hands I
commend my spirit"?
Luke 23:46 " And when Jesus had cried with
a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I
commend my spirit: and having said thus, he
gave up the ghost."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18
Jesus said
"And Jesus said to him, 'Why do you call me
good? No one is good but God alone"?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD
Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me
good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good
except God alone."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39
Jesus begged his GOD to have mercy on him
and to pass the cup to death (kill Jesus in
another words) before Jesus goes through
the pain of crucifixion?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 18:38 he
didn't reply when he was asked about the
truth?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36
Jesus said
"No one knows about that day or hour, not
even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but
only the Father." Jesus told his followers that
no one (including Jesus) knows when the
judgment day will come, only GOD knows?
•.....
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3
GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in
Jesus? Also see GOD's Spirit in the many
others beside Jesus.
(And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon
him) Isaiah 11:2
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them,
he was received up into heaven, and sat on
the right hand of God.
Mark 16:19
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:31
Jesus told his followers that if he (Jesus)
bears witness of himself, then his record is
not true?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30
Jesus told his followers that he can't do a
single thing of his own initiative?
John 5:30 " I can of mine own self do nothing:
as I hear, Ijudge: and my judgment is just;
because l seek not mine own will, but the will
of the Father which hath sent me."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:36-38
Jesus said that GOD had assigned him
(Jesus) work and GOD is a witness on Jesus?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:37
Jesus told his followers that they have never
seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his
voice?
John 5:37 " And the Father himself, which
hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye
have neither heard his voice at any time, nor
seen his shape"
If Jesus was GOD, then why did he pray to his
GOD in Luke 5:16?
Luke 5:16 "And he withdrew himself into the
wilderness, and prayed."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39
Jesus fel on his face and prayed to his GOD?
Matthew 26:39 "And he went a little further,
and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my
Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from
me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
If Jesus was GOD, then how come in Hebrew
5:7 he prayed and cried for GOD to hear him
and give him mercy by saving him from
death?
If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John 1:18
he said
"No one has ever seen God, but God the One
and Only, who is at the FATHER'S side, has
made HIM known." Where do you see Trinity
in this Verse?
If Jesus was GOD, then how come in John
5:37 he said
"And the FATHER who sent me has himself
testified concerning me. You have never heard
HIS voice nor seen HIS form," Jesus and the
GOD are different. People heard Jesus, but
never heard GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 17:3 he
said " And this is life eternal, that they might
know thee the only true God, and Jesus
Christ, whom thou hast sent."
John 17:3 (Now this is eternal life: that they
know you, the only true God, and Jesus
Christ, whom you have sent.)
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:40 he
said " But now ye seek to kill me, a man that
hath told you the truth, which I have heard of
God: this did not Abraham."
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Numbers
23:19 he said (GOD is not a man neither the
Son of man)
" God is not a man, that he should lie; neither
the son of man, that he should repent: hath he
said, and shall he not do it? or hath he
spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 17:25 he
said ( and these have known that thou hast
sent me.)
"O righteous Father, the world hath not
known thee: but I have known thee, and these
have known that thou hast sent me"
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 15:24
he said
“ But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Is the lord sends another god or messenger to guide people?
Brilliant!
To take the stirrings of the soul & to make them sing & stand tall such that they mirror our own.
That is probably the most comprehensive public colloquial answer I have yet seen to that question; a question that is taken by so many as solid when it is rather tricky.
I love that he doesn’t collapse the question into its most expedient pathway.
That he is comfortable scattering in a organised manner into multiple pathways to address the question.
To summarise for myself & perhaps others he wonderfully gives us 4 options.
Answer 1: The Privacy Answer
1) None of your Damn Business
Answer 2: The Reframing Answer
1) That depends on what you mean by Believe
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And although he didn’t say it explicitly I am guessing the same kind of reframing would apply to the concept of God.
Given it can mean so many things to so many different people, secular or religious.
Answer 3: The Comical Answer
1) I’m Afraid that he might exist
Answer 4: The Suppositional Answer
Suppose that you do
What are you called upon
What are you called upon (Christian)
What are you called upon (Christian: Declarative & Embodied)
0) Act out (Spark of) Divinity
1) Logos
2) Sacrifices
3) Arc in Order
4) Burden of Being
5) The Garden
6) The Golden Rule
I thought his distinction between acting out & saying or what I would say embodied and declarative was brilliant.
Furthermore the Suppositional answer despite having heavy Christian connotations further brilliance & speaks to his understanding of The Bible in a Psychological Context.
Often when I am asked this question I tend to answer with a variant of Answer 2.
It is good to have some other tools in the toolbox!
I just want you to know Jordan how deeply loved you are by many...
Thank you for being you and for doing God's calling even though you may not acknowledge yet that that is what you are, and have been doing! : )
Thank you for stimulating my mind and heart that has been much needed 🙏
Just want you to know that you are very much loved 💓💓💓
: )
Tedious arrogance, thinking you know what he's doing on behalf of God as if you have some divine insight which you don't.
@@colossihitmanPlease don't call this person arrogant my friend for it is not arrogance. If you had Godly wisdom then you would understand that he has been helping people better understand their minds and come to terms with reality in a healthy way and you would see that this clearly is in line with God's will for us. He desires all to live healthy and ethical lives in service to Him and one another. Friend, please think about what you post before posting it or I fear your words will be used against you. God bless you😊🙏❤
Amen to that
“I’m afraid He might exist and that’s the most comical of the three answers but probably the most accurate one.”
Unbeknownst to himself, he just answered the question if you paid attention.
I can imagine what position that puts him in having proof😎
So not "yes", & not "no". Just a long "maybe". Which means he's not sure. He talks about "God" all the time, but he's not sure "God" exists. Cool.
This was an amazing response from Jordan, he takes this question very seriously, as one should, and really challenges anyone who throws around their belief in God as some free moral superiority pass to actually look in the mirror and see if they're really living by their so called belief
I was an atheist. I'm a recovering addict. The gift of desperation is an undeniable truth. Thank you.
desperation is the worst time to make a decision, you're brain isn't working efficiently and is clouded by many things. Its always funny to me how many people become religious when they've gotten thrugh a bad situation and this is somehow evidence that god exists and he loves you,
if god existed you never would have gone through such suffering in the first place and god would have shown you the way without any need for you to become addicted to drugs.
So desperate you clung on to the first best thing that reached out.
Let me tell you a secret; YOU changed your life for the better, not 'God'.
Please don't feel discouraged by the comments. Only someone who has gone through a deep fall can fully understand what you mean. I'm a recovering atheist. Nihilism and arrogance were making me miserable. There is wisdom to be gained in despair. I wish you good fortune in your path and fortitude for redirecting up.
@@MTech07 you and everyone's subjective feelings towards their belief doesn't make it anymore true or reasonable than a child believing in Santa Claus and feeling the excitement during Christmas.
I'm happy for all of you able to find joy and gratitude in an obvious lie, but I would sooner suffer than purposely ignore the facts and spit on reality.
'god bless.'
@@brianbridges8124this argument is always hilarious to me. "If God exists why do people suffer" is essentially answers within the first 10 chapters of the bible. How can God help someone who doesn't even believe that he's real? Often times God *does* show us a way that is least harmful and then we ignore it and choose what we want to do. When the consequences come we blame it on God or say he doesn't exist and do it all over again. Almost all suffering on earth stems from sin and what is sin? Seperation from God. In a perfect world everyone would do their best to avoid sin but unfortunately we do not live in such a world currently.
ALL fall short of the Glory of God. It is by His grace we are saved
He's so much more Christian than many who are smug, setteled and confident..😆
All the encouragement posted here cracks me up. I've never heard a more humble and contientious person speak. If he's not right-with-God no one is.
Good grief, within the first 2 minutes he won't even say if he believes in God! And people like you STILL claim he's a follower of Christ. He is NOT!
@@Yesica1993 Tell us you missed the whole point without telling us you missed, etc.
It’s good to remember that this clip is from a lecture from a number of years ago, and that he has gone through a good deal since then and would perhaps answer the question very differently today.
To be fair his channel reposted the clip today suggesting he’s still of the same mindset
@@aaronbeachy is this channel actually his?
He mentioned he’s been racing through the Old Testament so it can’t be that old.
@@joelanderson907 I recognize this lecture. It’s from his 2018 Twelve Rules tour. Entitled “Who dares say he believes in God?” It’s in Australia.
Thank you! I love the high level of thought that goes into your responses, and the honest articulation. Just a thought: When one commits to 'knowing' God truly, that means in action, speech, and thought - in public and behind closed doors. It is fully understood that humans slip up from time to time - as God created our nature. However, when one's slip-ups become repetitive over a substantial duration, OR when they involve the abuse / manipulation of other individuals, you should realize that your flaw is foundational - and you should really do some repentance before you utter another prayer / show yourself to be a big believer in God to others.
Beautiful and insightful.
Non sense, a lot of to say few. Believe and thrust humanity instead of imagination. There isn't a reason to support any type of religion. You only have to look at the past and today's hypocrisy to see that it may bring morals, but can we talk about all the blood and catastrophe any religion made ? oh but it did more good than bad ? and it wasn't us at that time, no you support something that did those horrible things, you believe in what others said but it can't be proven, but morals can be teach outside of religions. Believers forsake peoples, they are hypocrite, they think they are good, when every actions they make are selfish and egoistic. Because when you make a action that make others happy, you do it because it make you happy. So you only do it cause it make you happy. The good is in the bad and the bad in the good. People should be teach of how to be a better human, instead of a profiling of how good people should be by the say of a imaginary being.
@@arekisan5239 So you haven't listened to anything Professor Peterson has said in this clip, or any other lecture, I take it? I'll let you take your qualms up with him - would love to see him in a 'debate' with you XD
Yes, human beings do bad and even terrible things. God has given us FREE WILL for a purpose. Even atheists do terrible things behind closed doors, and yes, even in public. Keep ignoring the good of humanity, and focus on the negative, see where it takes you my friend.
@@Beekind799 And you lack of objective sense. Morales and wisdom can be cultivate in the wrong way. And the hypocrisy behind religions is the worst there is on earth. Understand your humanity and perfect it for you and you alone. Help others because you know that you are hypocrite and egoistic and selfish. The actions you make are enchanced cause you understand them.
@bneihaneviim You freely choose to ignore the wrongs of this world. Which make you more hypocrite than others. Know the wrongs to do the goods at your best you could, if you don't do that your actions get affected negatively even if you don't see it. Peterson is a brilliant man, but he doesn't make you understand how the world is, he give his own experience so you can make something out of it. Everyone has to be better than yesterday with the amount of information they get. There is not yet one truth of how to be.
Very well explained especiallly in the end. To believe in God properly, to believe in that high of all values, you must act it.
Wrong. No one can be without sin. You have it backwards. Everyone sins. The believers admit it and beg forgiveness. The others see no need.
It is perceived (by me at least) he’d be a great preacher!
God gave him gifts that can be used for his kingdom!
How great it is that he is even considering to bring God into conversation on his platforms! 🙏🏼 PRAISE GOD
@Thawne1338 that doesnt matter, God gave us all different roles in the big scheme of things. He gave women the power to give new life. And none more prominent than Mary who was givin the title mother of God
gods a chick
Psalm 150
it probably doesn't have a gender since it's just energy
@@j.j.riverhill2831
Ten years ago I started doing exactly what he is talking about, garden and everything. I’m amazed every day. I pursued death for so long that when I found true life I changed. I am not who I was and still have work to do. Life is the Pilgrims Progress.
Amen
Look inside yourself, you will eventually meet God. And you will definitely no longer fear death. Working with nature or people is the best way to feel connected with God for sure
@@Softlol I embraced death, as many do, falling into a sort of nihilism and realized I was dead already and hadn’t truly lived. I was chaff in the wind. Now my roots are deep, my direction is clear, and I can stand tall in knowing that we all have a purpose. Own your past and help others learn from it. Love to you all!
@@denniscwarren very true! The past and future doesn’t exist, the present moment is all that is, and if you give it all you have you can enjoy every second of life! Even when it’s bad, you can use this as a tool to handle it! Hardship is a great learner, we should also appreciate hardship!
Sending love💙
This is by far one of your most intelligent argument sir. And you have made a lot of them
Constantly working to do all I can to make myself live up to the standard set by Jesus, trying to keep his commandments like he asked me to do.
What an amazing fear of the Lord mr Jordan has. It cannot get any more serious and responsible than that. He searched and he understood the magnitude of God. And his doubts I understand so well. I was there once. God knows very well that even if we aim to do everything perfectly we can't reach it. But in His magnitude He came up with a solution. His love for us is so big that He wants us to reach this perfection, so in essence He want us to reach Him. That is why He gave His only Son, Jesus, that whoever believes in Him should not die, but have eternal life. In other words, be able to reach Him and spend the rest of eternity with Him. Jesus closes this gap that exists between God and us. We do us as best as we can, and Jesus, the intercessor, Son of God, God Himself, is there to do the rest. Imagine you are on your way to God, driving the highway to heaven, but your car broke down, so God sent His Son to pick you up xD It's that easy.
Except Jesus doesn't "do the rest" he pays in full for all the sins of those who believe, you get to go to heaven because of what Jesus did for you, and not because of what you did, put your trust fully in him and not on yourself.
@YYZUnderbelly described in epistles and elsewhere. They were already in an "in between" place called Sheol where Jesus personally brought them out during his time dead for approx 3 days.
Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Works based salvation is absolutely incorrect. We cannot bribe the Judge. Grace through faith was there all along in the scripture. Christ did all the work on the cross. Sin paid in full. Believe and receive His saving grace and mercy.
Unfortunately Jordan like so many are still stuck in a works based theology where moral deeds must outweigh immoral deeds in order for God to provide salvation from damnation.
@@david-spliso1928 This is the truth
@YYZUnderbelly 1 Peter 3:18-19. Google still helps with this. At the time of commenting, I didn't remember where, this morning I straight up just Google search for it and bam. There you go.
Four years ago I nearly died in a house fire. I now believe in God because he saved me from dying that night. Trauma from the house fire led me to a stay in a mental hospital. I floated through the hospitalization with ease and through the miracles of grace I was placed in new accommodation in a very short space of time. I love my father Jesus so much for he saved my physical life ...I read his word regularly and can hear him talking to me in whispers in the dead of night. It brings me so much joy to see his works of creation around me every minute of every day
To breathe his air alone brings tears of happiness to my eyes. .
Happy to hear you are okay and that you are saved man (in all ways).
@@Psychiatricnerd thanks
This was 2018, I think he's grown in his belief since then, through his illness and his wife's faith journey.
his illness was a drug addiction to xanax. bro should have just smoked some weed 🤓
@@jojstar4no it wasn’t you sausage
He used to have something interesting to say about self-improvement, but after his drug addiction/induced coma, he has become unhinged.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE PRAYING FOR YOUR SALVATION!
God calls those people "the peanut gallery" 😂
As a Greek Orthodox, i totally agree. And i like and appreciate the perspective you gave. In fact motivating and self reflecting for all of us. The problem is, even if you wanted to, the society is making it almost impossible to act in Gods way.
Christians are supposed to be counter-cultural. Jesus taught us that if he was persecuted, as his followers, we should expect the same treatment.
In reality, faith is not a lifestyle choice "For by the grace of God you are saved through faith. And this is not from yourselves. It is the gift of God. It is not from works so that no one can boast" Ephesians 2:8-9 the path is narrow
@Bradlee418 I'm curious as to exactly how you determined this or what you mean.
@Bradlee418 👍🏼 JP is too sincere, intelligent and insightful to be anything else but Orthodox.
boy get your butt back to Rome... your church allows for contraception if permitted by a cleric!
I SO admire his integrity on that issue.
It's definitely more self-aware and intellectually honest than a lot of people's answers/positions in this area.
That’s the precise word to describe his answer. It’s seems as though many of the commenters missed his point at @4:30 his stance is a humble one that avoids receiving undo praise for simply invoking “belief in God.” He’s careful not to use the Lord’s name in vain. Many think that principle only applies to denigration of God. It also applies to unworthy reference in a positive manner
Brother, the only necessary qualification for believing in God is being a sinner. "Not having the right" to approach him or the ability to please him is precisely the reason you NEED to believe in him! Belief is you saying - God, I'm not enough, and I'll never be: save me. Don't let the scandal of the cross become a stumbling block to you, precious brother - humble yourself before your Maker and Savior; throw yourself on his mercy. He will not fail to catch you, and in due time lift you up.
Belief and faith are the strongest forces in this chaotic world.
Doctor, take your own advice and don't beat yourself to death. We love you.
Jordan consistently fails to understand that believing in God doesn’t eliminate those of our appetites that are disordered. Real Christian’s believe but struggle to overcome sin every day. Sometimes we succeed and other times we fail. This is precisely why we understand ourselves as entirely dependent on the grace of God. Waiting until we are perfect to give ourselves to God is ignoring God’s call. He loves us and saves us as we are. He is demanding but at the same time understands our struggles in the way a good parent understands that kids will fail.
God isn't demanding, whoever told you this never knew God. God is fun loving, easy going, and frankly doesn't give a damn about your sin, because he's too busy loving life.
@@michaelbarry755You are a liar‼️ There's no truth in you, son of Cain, whose father is the master of deception. YHVH's Savior, Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, paid for the remission of sin with His stripes on the cross so that upon repentance, we may receive eternal life when we believe in Him. Yeshua died, so we may live.
How dare you say that God doesn't give a DAMN about sin.
Even a Kenite can seek God and repent of their sins. Get to know God, He wants to hear from you. Father is very forgiving❣️
I am the way, the truth and the life. JOHN 14:6
He isnt saying we shouldnt worship god while we are sinning or try to be better. He is saying claiming that you are a follower or a believer of him while having poor self control especially commiting big sins is not right. In essense saying u believe in god is saying u follow gods law strictly. If your lawless, u demonstrate that the religion is lawless and discourage disbelievers from coming toknow god.
@@michaelbarry755you need to read the Bible
@@michaelbarry755
“There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers”
God doesn’t care about your sin?
started my journey into the evangelic believe a few months ago and this is exactly how i feel
Once you let yourself go and accept the Lord - become child like, as Jesus told us to be - these thoughts will vanish. I believe in God, but I am not perfect. Faaaar from it! But I do live in His mercy, thus I don't need to be perfect. In fact, I can't because I am a human being. I am sinful, but not a sinner. This is the core of what Jesus did. When He took our sins upon Him, we got freedom in return. We are free to be a believer even though we are not perfect. I've been a Christian all my life, but it is just recently (the last decade or so - I am now 45) that I have really gotten down deep in my faith; in my understanding of the mysteries in faith. And through that, I am slowly becoming a better person because I want to live my life like He wants me to. All of this time, I _know_ that when I die, He will welcome me into Paradise. Because I believe in God, that Jesus died and is risen - and I am here proclaiming just that. Therefore I have a claim in eternal life in Heaven, because Jesus said so.
Look up "the man on the middle cross said I could come", a short TH-cam clip with Allistair Begg. That story tells everything there is to know about His mercy.
People who is new to the faith, or are just starting to acknowledge their faith, are like babies. You don't serve a baby a platter of beef, veggies and gravy - the baby cannot process such food. In stead, we feed babies milk, then introduce solid food over time, then gradually the baby can digest "grown up food". And waaaay later in life, the baby learns to enjoy coffee. :D If you are new to the faith, don't expect to be able to handle steak just yet. It'll come, and maybe it will take a long time. But it'll come.
I want to confirm something for you (and everybody like you), as a believer myself. Believe in God, and believe that all your sins are forgiven forever! Believe that you are a child of God and that you have His mercy. Just believe it, and become child like - let Jesus take the wheel while you take care of rowing, and your boat will find safe haven. Your life will be transformed through Him. Because there is nothing you yourself can do. That's what Jesus said in the verse about the camel and the eye of the needle. No acts will save you, only His Mercy. And that you shall have, now and forever! Amen!
God bless you, my friend! :)
He’s not copping out, he’s conveying the gravity of what it truly means to believe in God. But the key thing he leaves out is Grace. We all fall short in the glory of God so how could we say we believe in God if we fail constantly? It’s by Gods love and grace that we can, he knows we will fail but it’s because of his love and desire to have a relationship with us that he allows to continue the path even after we fall.
“Lord, i believe, help my unbelief”
Zues will help your weak fragile shell of a soul
How I would love to interview Prof. Peterson, so as for a change help him as he has helped so many others
Such a force - a modern day prophet.
Keep your spirits high, JP 🫡
I truly love this man
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But that's exactly one the things that's so beautiful about religion, and about the meaning of the name "Israel"
Life and faith are a continuous lesson
Judaism, as far as I understand it, realizes no man can be of no sins, and 100% a saint. We have 613 mitzvot, which are sort of commandments. As I understand it, it's not that it's necessarily humanly possible to fulfill all of them, but the human struggle to do so, that comes from the beautiful and human yet godly desore to do so, is imo an important part of faith
belief is the child of intellect; knowing is the gift of experience
the shift occurs when we allow both to dance in balanced union
He brings up a really good point. This was really well put and just shows a mirror. I fail all the time at being a Christian, so this hits the nail on the head. How much do you actually believe?
This is the most amazing example of prevarication I have ever seen. The only thing that is more amazing is the number of people in the comment section who seem to think that this man is the very definition of wisdom. Amazing!
I adore how genuine this man is. Long live Jordan Peterson
He will die like every other man, unless he is saved and the LORD returns soon.
Dr. Peterson, God has given you so much knowledge, and intelligence and understanding. Take God at His Word. We do deserve to by struck down - but His amazing free gift is eternal life through Christ Jesus. And, knowing that we cannot change ourselves to meet His standards, he places His spirit within us to transform us into the likeness of Christ - thus making us into Christians reflecting the person of Christ more and more clearly. He wants you to declare that you believe in Him, if you do - and He wants to help you to live like it.
😂😂😂 ‘Afraid he might exist’ laughed my ass off, nice
Romans 1:21-22 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Amazing. You must earn the right to believe in God. What an insightful position.
Being a Christian is not something that one would keep private if he realises what a great miracle had happened in his heart. A born-again Christian is an earthen vessel carrying a power that's too great for him/her to carry it by himself/herself. That's why we need the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us to keep us humble and from going astray from the Lord. It's also the word that does the changing and renewing of our minds, just like Hebrews 4 vs 12-13 reads: "For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account."
I wish you lots of blessings in your growth as a Christian and that you may find grace in how to give God all the glory by the influencing of the society all over the world with the wonderful talents and gifts that He bestowed on to you! 💛🙏
YES! Keeping your “faith” private is actually quite Anti-Christ because God calls us to be salt of the earth. We are useless if we just keep the salt locked away in the cabinet, AND it is not up to our own ego to decide how much saltiness gets served and to whom
THIS , Ladys and Gentleman is - Humility - 🔥
Thank you for this teaching. It is by His grace that we are saved when we commit our lives to Jesus and the same grace enables us to live according to His standards.
How to accept Islam?
You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth. If you say no god but allah and Muhammad(pboh) is his final messenger with total sincerity, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that
And if you can’t bcz your family members
Then Be Muslim in secret and don’t tell any one
James 2:26 "so also faith without works is dead"
"if you *really* believe in God you'd be perfectly obedient"
That would require me to be a perfect person. Come on now.
If God wanted perfect obedience you'd have no free will.
@@JoyfulUniter That does not make much sense to me. What value would obedience have if it is not a free choice? It seems to me that in any case, God would want us to obey out of love for him, not out of fear or because we are forced to do so.
@@nicolasvasquez8048 He wants to be your friend it's a relationship not slavery. You get what you want. God gets what God wants, everyone wins. Obey is what a slave does, and God never wanted slaves.
@@nicolasvasquez8048 Recontextualize it, what would God want for you if he was your friend and not some overlord? For both sides to be happy, and get what they want, like a friendship, right? Consult your own heart on it, ask God yourself f*** what I think he told me that.
@@JoyfulUniter But it isn't only slaves that obey. Children that respect, love or fear their parents obey. That doesn't make them slaves... because in the end it is a choice they have to make on their own.
And we are children of God, not friends. If a father proves himself to be worthy of your respect and love, then you simply obey... And I don't think there is anyone more worthy than God.
Anyway, that's what I would say if I believed in God. Good night... or morning if you're from the other side of the globe.
We all fall short, but we do our imperfect best. When we fall, we listen for Him and He never fails to come and raise us up. And so we live as strangers and pilgrims, always looking for that heavenly country whose builder is God.
Sometimes you don’t have to ask a lot of questions or questions yourself so many times. We just have to let God speak with silent prayer no words.
Detach everything from your minds and focus only to him and wait for his glorious divine present.
I know he exists after a near dearth experience.
He saved my soul
ty for sharing never hesitate so refreshing
Yes, i saw Zeus yesterday. He told me words of wisdom that shall not be Heard by any man. He saved my soul too, i know he exists.
@@XnonTheGodhow u know it was zeus? Did he say I am zeus? Did he have the lightning hands?
@@greghefley3626 He revealed a verse to me:
Massages 23:12 "I, Lord Zues, The king of kings, The God of Gods, The one whose feet encompasses all heavens, I command you to be worthy of my fruits, For i shall not bear the weight of the world for the unworthy"
This verse is highly encrypted and there are hidden massages all over, but he also mentioned, he'll come back to reveal more information about his absolutely true divine existence.
I know God exists. The Holy Spirit cannot lie.
I would rather believe in god than what our government had to offer !!!!!
They both promise jam tomorrow.
Government only tortures the living
I had an awakening yesterday. A mix between the holy trinity. It feels to private to talk about my meeting, or god reaching out to me. I had a moment of this epihihany? fullfilment, all pieces fit. Im a 30 yr danish man. Longing for the values you discuss, and for years, maybe sure , god? Never thought of religion doing impact on me like this Jordan. But I actually believe, god reached out and touched my soul. A flash of symbols/sign. My town church. America and individuialism / nature in its rawness and truth. I've come to admit now, after yesterday. That im not sure, but it sure feels like i had a very impactfuld meeting with a higher power. I think god told me, Casper - You are good enough, you are beatufil. Im going to a priest today , and i see this scary thing. Telling my mom, friends, anyone. Like I feel like i woke up.??? i must think for long and talk for long and see. but thank you Jordan. I needed this in my life, and somehow i feel transcended. filled with love, encouragement and no need for bad habits, joy,fullfilment. satisfied. - the narrative is so beautiful in so many ways in many religous stories. I understand, that i dont understand, and i must listen. just listen. i must not push my beliefs and would never upon others, before im sure of what i feel - In other ways, political systems, and conections understand of language wokeness also ringed a bell in this ephinany. Dancing with wolves, america , my own country denmark. Our history and religion therin symbols/signs/virtues.- there is def a sort of wanting this for me.
If you really believe, you are enlightened. That is the best answer I heard of any theist ever.
I love Jordan to death, and he is right to say that you must properly clarify a question before answering it.
But at the same time, this is the definition of question dodging. If someone less wise and well-intentioned than Jordan were to do this, people would tear him apart.
He didn't dodge the question in this instance because it wasn't actually asked in this instance.
He merely discussed it and what it could potentially mean and why he doesn't like it.
I totally share this feeling with JP. I don’t feel I have the right to make that proclamation. My Lord, my savior. I’m too sinful and don’t feel I deserve that honor.
Only reason not to believe in God means your not willing to place anything else above yourself.
There are many things someone could place above themselves without believing in a deity: children, family, society, country... to name just a few.
And many who say they believe in God put themselves first all the time. Your point lacks substance.
Is that so?
What a patently absurd statement.
Hi Dr. Peterson. I wanted to tell you what God revealed to me about belief. He let me know that on earth things are upside down. The world says see and then you will believe.
God's kingdom says believe and then you will see. It is a complete paradigm shift. Faith is the currency of God. Without it you will not know God. I assure you Dr Peterson God exist. He is very real and the spiritual realm is more real than the physical realm. It is permanent and eternal. I experience God everyday. Love in Christ.
Because there is no believing in God, there is only knowing God, as in the consummation of an ever present relationship that each of us has to come to know for ourselves 🙏💛🙏
Ohh man... he really has a very "special" talent for taking what is considered to pretty much everyone as just a fairly common, simple question "Do you believe in God?"
Now Dr. Peterson just added so much weight to that question, it has exceeded the maximum limit of my current brainspace... so I'm gonna have to go and unpack some of that before I can safely allow any response to depart the hangar ya'll...🤯
GOD DOES EXIST I MET HIM WHEN I WAS ON LIFE SUPPORT GOD IS GREAT
I am one of JP's biggest fans...but dude. You could just say "I don't know" lol
Yes, but no, HE can't. He has to use this kind of obfuscating babble to sound profound to the dim masses. It is how he developed his "brand."
Jim Caviezel, the "Sound of Freedom" actor, has stated the problem today is more people are afraid of the devil than they are of God. The 'fear' of God is the beginning of wisdom. That is a reverential esteem for His Word that requires an embracing response of It that delivers us from our own nature.
My life is much better now with God in it.I pray everyday to keep my faith alive.
Jordan Peterson is grappling with the most profound truths, and people who want him to just declare his faith (or lack thereof) are utterly missing the point. Belief (or disbelief) in God is a staggeringly complicated thing, and people (believers and unbelievers, both) who do not acknowledge that complexity are deluding themselves and perhaps taking comfort from their delusions. For myself, I am in awe of how hard and how brilliantly this man struggles to discover, understand and cleave to truth.
The more I examine 'belief in God', I sense his total belief - and love for me. A matter of the eternal. His work in and for me.
when people think about god their brains give them dopamine (happy chemicals). The loving feeling you're feeling is just your brain giving you happy chemicals. The feeling is real even though the supernatural entity is imaginary.
Believing in God is the starting foundation and the knowledge is the building blocks to life itself.
This illustrates the problem of those who do not believe in God making up what they imagine it means to believe in God. Sitting in His seat as if they can think as God!
Believing in God means He teaches you what that means through living as His Child in the only Church which He established. The Eastern Orthodox Church.
You can meet God, everyone can, you just have to look deep inside yourself. In order to do this you need to have been working on yourself and have control over your emotions and let the notion of your ego “die”.
I have personally met God, it is the single most life changing experience I’ve ever had. So far it has (still) cured me of depression and anxiety among many other things. It gives you a new understanding of everything. (and yes, I know this sounds crazy).
There is a surrendering that takes place in belief. A surrendering that says to God “I cannot but I know You can and I’m giving it to you”. It’s an understanding of the grace of God and the work of the cross.
Hi, Peterson I know you will see this comment of gratitude and appreciation for changing my life....I dont know why I am here to be honest, bu deep down I know I am supposed to be here. Its your Black suit on Mauna Loa that brings me here... I've watched all your videos and picked every single Letter coming out from your sacred temple 🫶.❤ . Your words are like White lights in the darkness. Listening to your words of wisdom reminds me of my grandfather Kha and his brother Mekhe. Its a very long story I wont border you with. Forever in your debt ❤❤❤... I recalled one of your lines you mentioned something about LOVE. And I quote "LOVE is the Universal TRUTH, and it exists EVERYWHERE, even in the depth of Hell".
So Mr. Peterson I think I am genuine person who is indeed qualified to not lie about my experience and admit that I know that God is good and that God is real.
We lie to ourselves and believe our own lies. I would love to hear Peterson ideas on this.
You know Jordan..I believed in..loved and feared their just punishments. And with all that I was still tempted to be willful! My parents loved me..and I counted on that. God loves me..and I count on that!
I think the most fair way to classify what is meant by people who say they believe God is that they aspire to believe truly.
basically, he's saying 'you shouldn't be allowed to say you believe in god using words, if this belief isn't consciously reflected in all the actions you take in your life'.
most people throw the 'yeah i believe in god' too easily around, without actually having a behaviour that reflects that in their life.
this is a great lesson for hypocritical religious people but I think that people who really need to understand this, won't understand it.
to me it seems that his language is way too complicated for those people, and the people who do understand this idea are probably sophisticated enough to not throw it around like that.
i'm not religious at all anymore but I grew up in such a family. they too suffered from this 'disease' jordan talks about.
i do however believe someone can be in service of society (that's really what religion is all about anyway, the rest has absolutely no proof/logical grounds in reality) without the belief in god but they need to believe humans are a net good (or could be, if instructed properly).
Great take
For anyone wondering, this means that, for all intents and purposes, his answer is YES. His answer to the question asked the way a simple person would mean it is YES. He is just being intellectually honest and humble about it. I mean, he surely is NOT an atheist. He would never assert that there's no God. He surely does not NOT believe in God. It's just that the concept of belief is very tricky.
For the last three years I've watched and listened to you and your guests/lectures. You have come so far. I watched Jesus work on you. I prayed and prayed you would finally accept and truly step into the light the dioor the only way to heaven and the bigger picture. You're juat to smart not to. I knew you needed something big to finally nudge you to Jesus and Christianity. It's been an amazing transformation. When i watch you and your daughter do the interview and her wanting to even go as far as trying haciena ( i Hope i spelled that right probably not😅) to find a higher being or possibly God. I said to myself if they only knew they didn't need that to connect to Jesus. Short of it is for 3 solid years you've been more vocal about God until you got really sick. That too i believe had an affect in the lord working on you. Because only he can make something happen that really convinces anybody. For a lack of a better way to explain it. But the seeds were being water the entire time and it was amazing to watch and sometimes it was nail-biting and on the edge of the seat 🙏 to God somehow someway tp make you see and accept the water given to you to drink. We all lead you to the water but it was you that had to form that relationship with God yourself and ask him to come onto you and your heart. I see the difference. More and more when you would really get into it with your guests. But then something changed. At which poiint i said to a friend Jesus is working on Peterson. We actually had a chuckle then prayed for your salvation and that you would one day truly accept Jesus as your lord and savior. ❤
He’s working himself into a hypothetical intellectual hysteria. These questions are not complicated. Only confronting your answers legitimacy is difficult
It has to be incredibly difficult to be JBP. I have gone through this in my own head and to have to question everything so critically is so exhausting. Nothing is linear or simple…
He is a clown trying to answer a simple question by twisting it so that he won't lose his beloved Christian followers.
God is imagined. Our entire existence is imagined. 💓