9 years out of the game due to a back injury. Just getting back into it recently. Saved up for the stealth irons and just brought some home a few days ago. I like them a lot and hit them well. Saving again now for the rest of it. Found your channel very helpful. Keep it up!
Quality as usual. I agree re: the loft, as a golfer irrespective of handicap, you hit each iron a certain distance, the number at the base of the club is irrelevant if you know your yardage.
Great review and I agree the loft number is all relative. That said my AP2 7 iron goes a fraction under 150 yards and my mates are hitting 9 irons that far. Stronger lofts and faster swings. Sometimes makes me feel a bit weak but if I get the lower score then what’s the problem?
Have a look at Bry Roberts long drive channel were he compares his Nike 7 iron at 35 degrees to a P790 at 29 degrees, longer distance from P790 as you'd expect but delving in to the figures you find that peak height and decent angles are roughly the same for both irons
I play with a younger crowd and usually am a couple clubs off from what they hit but when it's all said and done, the old man is right there in the mix.
Played with them for the first time yesterday, absolutely love them. Not sure if psychological- but straight and long. Decided to keep them. Shaved 0.3 off handicap to 17.6 - working towards “average”! Great video…
Absolutely true. The experts assume they know best for you. I went to a PGA Superstore to try and demo some Ping Blueprints. The “expert” didn’t even pay attention to what I wanted and determined that I needed some Taylormade P790’s. He never asked about my golf history. I’m a 4 handicap and have hit blades most of my life. I let him do his spiel and then politely left. I right now use some Ben Hogan Icons and Wilson Staff blades, but will end up with some Miura 101’s. I love the look and feel of a blade, and maybe it’s a mind game thing, but if I like the club and feel confident with it, I play my best game regardless of brand!
Great review and you are spot on with lofts etc. it’s not about the degree of loft, but what distances you may need to to be able to hit your irons to get you around the golf course to be enjoyable for you!
I enjoyed your review on the Cleveland Halo Irons and brought a set which I like. I am now looking at a more classic looking iron that is also forgiving and will take me well into the future. Good honest review, thank you.
I’ve been a callaway man since the big Bertha days, but after buying a Mavrik driver and not being that impressed, I tried a TM SIM 2 driver and wow! The difference was significant. I bought one the same day and have been hitting it very well . My swing speed is only 98 mph on average but The ball flies off the face . So that led me to look at the TM irons too. I tried the P790 and nearly bought them, but I waited for the stealth irons to come out. I had a fitting and I was blown away. The sound at impact would have been enough for me to buy them, but I could shape shots left and right with ease. The ball goes farther for the number on the bottom( of course) so I am just getting use to the adjustment. One word of caution. If your swing speed is quite low, then you won’t see much benefit from the longer clubs after a 6 iron.
I got fitted for T200's in Oct 2021. Waited until January for delivery. Had a successful season with them them....Came out this season and struggled big time. Took a chance on these Stealth irons.....and they seem to dial back the years. Comfortably hitting shots i was 20yrs ago for distance. Not won anything this year so far but just need to eradicate the mistakes. All in all a great iron
Great video, as per usual. This is camera-nerdy, but I super appreciate the use of shallow depth of field you employ - really takes the videos to a much higher level. As a player of the original Sim Max (not OS) irons, I've got to say how impressed I am with the looks of this new iteration. Love the (slightly) slimmed down effect, and the backs are just beautiful, especially in comparison. I've had no issues with the lofts being stronger - instead of a 5-iron, I'm pulling a 7 - just know your distances and it's all the same (except making my old 3-iron much easier to hit now as a 5 ;) ). When it's time to upgrade (definitely not yet), these (or whatever iteration they're on) will definitely be on the list. One question, though - how do you feel these compare to the PXG 0211s? I quite like the looks of those, and the price certainly can't be beat (especially when on sale). Any difference at all in feel/launch/spin? Thanks for all the content - truly appreciated!
April is when the irons will be hitting the fitters. I tried the TM irons on Trackman since 2018. Each time, I’ve compared them with my current irons (PING G). Fitters look at the data, shrug their shoulders and I keep hitting what I have. I’ve not played with Taylormade irons, I own and play a TM M4 driver and bought TM hybrids but put them in the closet and kept using my custom fit Cleveland Mashie 3,4,5 hybrids. My point is, get fitted, play what you have confidence in. That’s what makes it fun.
Totally agree with you on the loft. Why would the loft of a club matter to anyone. To me it’s all about performance. Average yardage for that club is what matters to me. Being a super senior if technology can help me from losing distance I’m all in. If they make that iron “Stealth” all the better. In golf they never ask you how just how many.
I think these look great and they are easy to hit. I just picked my set up today. My normal 7i was total distance 155. I am hitting these 7i total 185-191 with 81 club head speed. I can’t wait to try these tomorrow on the course. Got the 5-AW and 4H. Changed from Mavrik Max clubs. My only problem is my 7 wood rogue st is same loft as my new 5i at 21 degrees. Most likely won’t need both as they will probably be same distance. May sell my 5w and 7w and get a 3was my 5w and 7w are fairly close in distance.
Thank you for the answered request. Great review. I currently play the sim2 max and now I'm definitely gonna switch to the stealth irons. Thanks again.
Just got notification that my new PXG 0211’s have been shipped. At 67, I’m in need of a little more help for distance, and after testing these, they fit the bill nicely. And at $95 🇨🇦 each, they are an incredible deal. I’m looking forward for the snow to melt and courses to open so I can give them a wack. Until then I’ll practice in my golf studio.
@@stanthomas9890 that’s good, might be delays in UK then where I am. I’ve emailed PXG and said there due for dispatch end of January, just wish they had mentioned that when I was placing my order. Looking forward to them and taking my old Cobra’s out the bag even though they have served me well, just never liked the feel
Tongue in cheek ( click bait ) is what we need less of ! Hence the reason I’ve been here on your channel since day one. You guys are better then that and your videos speak for themselves. Like a good song or a fine wine. With that being said…. Great review as usual. I may give these a chance this year based on this video review alone. ( Unless Cobra releases the LTD irons to match the new LTD driver !) Cheers.
The Loft Police…😂 I just demoed the P790 and the stealth and came away really impressed with the stealths. I don’t have a fast swing speed so the stealth fit me well. I was getting an extra 10-15 with the 7 iron compared to my gamer which is 2 degrees weaker but the stealth got great launch with good spin and decent. And I think they look great. The top line doesn’t look big and chunky at all too me. Very playable looking. I want more distance in my game in a good looking forgiving package. Think I’m gonna put these stealth’s in my bag.
Love the outtake at the end there Andy. Good looking bats without a doubt. My Pro is going to let me have a go when the fitting cart arrives at the end of the month. Will let you know what I think of them and the driver hen.
I like Ping irons, G425 and could care less what anybody thinks about them. When someone wants to buy me a new set of irons, then I'll worry what they think.
Got fitted yesterday and after going through the motions, these were the ones I ended up playing best. Weirdly I barely looked at what make club I had in my hand each hit and one by one crossed others off the list due to which suited me. Happy though with the look to be fair. Great review. Cheers for the content. YNWA
Good review, logical, pragmatic, realistic and helpful. You make a good point that what the average player should focus on is having clubs that will give him distances X Y and Z, not which club number it is. There are excellent fitters doing demonstrations of these irons that I have watched and who actually hit 207 to 212 with the Stealth 7 iron. The thought the clubs were good, touched on the same points you did. But for them personally they felt the distances were more than they needed and might leave them with gap problems at both the long iron and wedge end. For them, the more important thing was tight dispersion and consistency and repetition of carry and spin. But you are right about the average recreational golfer. By the way, one thing I wonder about is whether these irons with so many parts will be durable for years to come and when exposed to wide ranges of hot and cold temps as they sit in players trunks (boots to you).
Who gives a sh_t what they look like if they can knock a few strokes off your round. I have golfed with a lot of different people and not once did I ever say, or hear someone say, "those are ugly clubs".
I guess I am one of the rare breed that really isn't bothered by what my clubs look like. I get fitted every 5 years and play whatever jumbled up mix of heads and shafts that give the best numbers/gapping. My current bag: Original Rogue driver, Mizuno Fli Hi 2 iron, Rogue 3 and 4 hybrids ... Mizuno JPX 921 Fli Hi 5, 6 and 7. 8 through GW Mizuno JPX 921 HM. Callaway Jaws 56 and 60. Toulon Atlanta putter. 4 handicap. I have played with some strangers who eye my 7 "iron" with a bit of a smirk, but when I walk off the course with a 75 and they shoot 90, why would I care?
They look good. Is it going to make me pull the trigger to buy? No. I've got a set of Adams clubs a decade old that is 3-5 hybrid 6-SW blades and, to be blunt, I like them a lot. I do see not much use for a 5w now a days due to my 3i hybrid hitting about the same distance and cleaner on average. Something for me to work on is understanding how far a clean hit 5w should go so I play it when I should and that's what winter video practice is for :)
I really like the look of this iron but the lofts are crazy. I'm talking about the 6 degrees of loft between PW and AW vs 2.5 degrees between the 4 and 5 irons. I think TM assumes that the golfers that buy these irons are high handicappers that have a huge front to back dispersion they won't notice that the 3 lowest lofted iron all fly nearly the same yardage.
hello, I am handicap 10 do you think this iron will suit me I am 52 years old I have a moderate speed swing, I am looking for an easy to play series, with a gain in distance. Last question the lofts being lower the apex is it not too low, and given the orientation of the face the trajectories do not pull too much to the left?
I have PXG gen 3 irons and love them and just purchase the PXG 0811XF Gen4 10.5 Driver with a EvenFlow Riptide CB 50g shaft for $299 got 20 more yds and better consistency.
Looks: TM have a winner, seriously good looking for a GI/SGI iron. I love the fact that TM has gone the opposite way to so many others on the back with no decals other than their name and the Stealth brand, I call the infestation of decals on the back of irons, Cobraitis because I blame Cobra for it. Lofts: I agree with Andy, I do not really care what the lofts are provided each iron delivers a consistent set of numbers, and there is about 10-12 yards gap between carry distances of each club. In terms of performance: Again I agree with Andy, the issue is whether the irons deliver sufficient stopping power on greens. The spin rates are slightly lower than ideal from the loft they have but nothing unreasonable but the flip side is that the peak height & descent angles are higher than I would have expected from the loft. So unless you only play on links courses with firm/very firm greens these look to have good stopping power, more than I would expect from the loft. I do, however, have one concern which would need to be tested. Some of the loft gaps between clubs are very large - 6 degrees between 9i & PW, 6 degrees between PW & AW, 5 degrees between 8i & 9i. I would want c. 12 yards gap in carry between clubs and I do worry that the large loft gaps might deliver a significantly bigger gap. Testing with a complete set would be nice to check whether or not my concern is misplaced
They somehow remind me of some of the Nike Irons just before they pulled out making equipment and they are a vast improvement on the looks of the SIM Irons. That being I have just seen the new Rogue ST PRO Irons from Callaway and they look mint
For me, the conundrum I now have is that my irons need to be sandwiched between my 5 hybrid (23 degree) and my 48 degree wedge. Looking at the lofts, I'd probably need to have the stealth irons weaker by about 1 degree, and then slightly strengthen my 5 hybrid - and then it very may well slot in nicely from 6 to PW!
That seems to be the way the game is going, longer irons replaced by hybrids, more wedges for the short game. I think most of the courses average golfers play, are off the yellow tees, (UK) a lot of par 4 holes are a good drive / 3wood then a short iron into the green, so the traditional mid irons rarely used
My current irons are 4i - LW at 24* - 58* and really can't hit lower than 24*. My gapping, trajectory, etc. are good so I don't see how I can get the same performance (gapping) with 2 fewer irons since the stealth 6i is 24*. Also, maybe you are saying that I might be able to hit the 21* Stealth because of the tech but I am sure that there is nowhere I can demo that club especially off the grass.
Compared to callaway xrs I found the stealths a lot harder to hit and not as forgiving as the XRs. I’ve played p790s and thought they felt exactly the same as the stealths. Super heavy and like a rock taped to the end of the shaft if you hit it wrong.
As a high handicapper, looking for a set of irons that will forgive side spin. Usually have no problem getting ball in the air but wayward left/right. Any recommendations. Ta
Cmon mate the spin was quite low and you said the descent angle is good, but you showed us no numbers for the descent angle. My opinion they look great but maybe a bit chunky for my liking. I'll stick to my PXG Gen 2 P irons. One of the best irons ever made in my opinion.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Nothing about these that draws me to them over other clubs. I'm a high single digit hc golfer and have always liked the look of forgiving clubs. Ping i2's all the way to the 425's. I haven't had all those btw but like the look. Currently gaming Sim 2 irons.
Great video and review Andy hope your back on top form . Yes I think they look great not ready for new irons but definitely a better look for the category
Those new Stealth irons are very clean and modern looking. I'm playing Cobra F7 irons, which look fine at address, but have the hideous badging in the back. When I do decide to change irons, I think I'm going to go with something like the Forge Tec or P790s that have no badging at all.
In my experience in using game improvement irons easy to hit, great speed, low spin, high launch, high towering shots, steep descending angle, hit the green and stop, but only when the greens are soft. Hard greens they hit and keep on going over the green. I don't have that problem with forged blades. Pluses and minuses, choose wisely for your game!
Great review. They are certainly not overtly game improvement looking clubs and I like the launch they give. Anything that helps the average golfer gain launch back from the course is a good thing and if your not ready for hybrid irons these seem ideal
Love the look of these new irons! That was the problem I had with the SIM/SIM2's. The whole torsion bar thing at the back and boldish graphics, errr!😜 Only one minor dislike of the Stealth's is the black toe wrap around bit. Alright on the back but not on the toe.
Now that the Stealth HD irons are out, I think it would be safe to say these are game improvement clubs vs super game improvement which is what the Stealth HD line is.
Great review Andy keep up the good work mate ,these new clubs look pretty cool for game improvement clubs , There is a taylormade demo booked at my golf club in the near future I may give these a try ,along with the P790 irons just to compare with my mizuno xp850 forged
Love the comment about the loft police 🤣. Great looking iron. Do taylormade do weaker lofts as part of a custom fit in these should you want to. Great video and keep them coming
@@mrwoo33 Actually, not to be contradictory, but if you order directly from TM, you can, in fact, go up or down on loft - I'm at the website now. You just have to select "customize this club" on the "Stealth" (or any club, for that matter) page, and there you can adjust both lie angle (up to 4 degress flat/upright) and loft (up to 2 degrees weak/strong). That would make the 7-iron 30, which while still strong, is much less "oh god the loft police are coming" and more "yeah, so what, I can hit my 7 iron as far as you hit your 6 - I'm THAT strong cough cough." :)
Good review we’ll explained. Clearly good clubs that will help many players. Could be a problem for specific yardages as so many of these game improvement irons end up flying off the face but often the difference between the front and the back of the green, not knowing which it will be. Still if it is on the green that would be useful.
Another great review! These look easy on the eye, ref performance do you think they're much more of a step on from the 2019 M6 Irons. Enjoying those at the moment !
I’m going to get fit for irons for the first time and I wanted to get fit for Mizunos or Srixons but then TM released these. These very well may end up in my bag z
same here I ended up ordering the MIZUNO JPX 921 HOTMETALS.....love the feel and the flight of the ball...the SRIXON ZX4 were nice too but the Mizuno felt a bit softer....
The Average Golfer. I’ve recently opted for the P790 and am not sold on them. As an 18 hcp I was apprehensive as to whether my swing would be good/consistent enough for the P790, perhaps I should have opted for the stealth, but the again they weren’t around October time last year.
I'm not a Taylormade fan but I would never buy a iron named after a driver, there resale value plummets after a new driver is released. I would go P790 if I was looking for distance and improvement!!
PXG 0211, thin top line, forgiving, looks superb,,,,,,,,,,,,, AND CHEAP, proper cheap ! Less than £700 for 5 iron to L wedge. Other manufacturers wake up and smell the roses.
A lot of what you say is true....But for a golfer who is 15 to 20 handicap and games these irons an want to stay there OK but because of the lofts, A 7 iron at 28 deg, my Hogan is 34 and Wilson is a 35...This would blow your mind when playing irons with this great of loft difference...To me this is a faults sence of security....Why don't these golf makers make a game improvement iron with some real lofts??? Don't think I will be getting interested in Taylor irons thou these look great...Mizuno 225 would be a better fit for me and a players improvement iron as well...Thanks for you view point...
When the manufacturer moves the CG so far back to help promote high launch there has to be a stronger loft to avoided a ‘ballooning’ effect, in other words the ball goes high but not forward, hence the stronger loft 👍
I got the sim2 max irons these do look better visually I doubt there alot difference enjoying my sim2 for now. I'm most excited to try the Callaway and TaylorMade 3 woods. Would def like try the new rogue pro irons too them look amazing
Yea def interested see how they do for ya. I think what I had liked bout the sim2 irons I had the 2017 790s when they came out and didn't give up the blade length a little feel but not like I would have thought I was def pleasantly surprised with em had intended to get the new 790s to replace the old ones but deside save some cash and haven't been disappointed
They look stunning but, they ain’t cheap! You could do a lot better looking at DTC company like, Sub 70: Haywood, Ben Hogan, or Cleveland Launcher XL Irons
I like the look of this of this game improvement club...which I rarely say. Now here is the weird part...I love the Stealth name for a driver...but hate it for an iron. Go figure.
I don't understand what the issue is. Thick, thin, whatever, if it works for you who cares. Someone in your group says why on earth are you using these irons. There's so many comebacks, I don't have the time to list all of them.
The number on the club is irrelevant. Loft is irrelevant. As long as you have a club that goes the distance you need it to and stop as quickly as you need it to, all is good. But that aesthetic? Yeah, that's a "nah" from me.
9 years out of the game due to a back injury. Just getting back into it recently. Saved up for the stealth irons and just brought some home a few days ago. I like them a lot and hit them well. Saving again now for the rest of it. Found your channel very helpful. Keep it up!
Quality as usual.
I agree re: the loft, as a golfer irrespective of handicap, you hit each iron a certain distance, the number at the base of the club is irrelevant if you know your yardage.
Great review and I agree the loft number is all relative. That said my AP2 7 iron goes a fraction under 150 yards and my mates are hitting 9 irons that far. Stronger lofts and faster swings. Sometimes makes me feel a bit weak but if I get the lower score then what’s the problem?
I have the 710's and the 7 iron is 35deg. I hit it around 140 yards but who cares? We are probably playing off a lower handicap if we're using these.
Have a look at Bry Roberts long drive channel were he compares his Nike 7 iron at 35 degrees to a P790 at 29 degrees, longer distance from P790 as you'd expect but delving in to the figures you find that peak height and decent angles are roughly the same for both irons
@@chrisgirling1097 he will have above average swing speed to achieve those numbers
I play with a younger crowd and usually am a couple clubs off from what they hit but when it's all said and done, the old man is right there in the mix.
Played with them for the first time yesterday, absolutely love them. Not sure if psychological- but straight and long. Decided to keep them. Shaved 0.3 off handicap to 17.6 - working towards “average”! Great video…
Absolutely true. The experts assume they know best for you. I went to a PGA Superstore to try and demo some Ping Blueprints. The “expert” didn’t even pay attention to what I wanted and determined that I needed some Taylormade P790’s. He never asked about my golf history. I’m a 4 handicap and have hit blades most of my life. I let him do his spiel and then politely left. I right now use some Ben Hogan Icons and Wilson Staff blades, but will end up with some Miura 101’s. I love the look and feel of a blade, and maybe it’s a mind game thing, but if I like the club and feel confident with it, I play my best game regardless of brand!
I think you have that spot on Brian
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Some people really don’t care about customer experience. Glad you had enough knowledge behind you to get past it.
Ordered and on their way! I tried a few different brands during a fitting and these were head and shoulders better than the others for me.
Great review and you are spot on with lofts etc. it’s not about the degree of loft, but what distances you may need to to be able to hit your irons to get you around the golf course to be enjoyable for you!
I enjoyed your review on the Cleveland Halo Irons and brought a set which I like. I am now looking at a more classic looking iron that is also forgiving and will take me well into the future. Good honest review, thank you.
Just got my 2021 p790s 2 weeks ago...im never! going to change them :) beautiful and a joy to hit :)
I’ve been a callaway man since the big Bertha days, but after buying a Mavrik driver and not being that impressed, I tried a TM SIM 2 driver and wow! The difference was significant. I bought one the same day and have been hitting it very well . My swing speed is only 98 mph on average but The ball flies off the face . So that led me to look at the TM irons too. I tried the P790 and nearly bought them, but I waited for the stealth irons to come out. I had a fitting and I was blown away. The sound at impact would have been enough for me to buy them, but I could shape shots left and right with ease. The ball goes farther for the number on the bottom( of course) so I am just getting use to the adjustment. One word of caution. If your swing speed is quite low, then you won’t see much benefit from the longer clubs after a 6 iron.
Brilliant review once again explained simply ant to the point. Well done Andy and all the team.
I think all of the Stealth line up look amazing. I love the red face hot stove look of the Driver even.
I got fitted for T200's in Oct 2021. Waited until January for delivery. Had a successful season with them them....Came out this season and struggled big time. Took a chance on these Stealth irons.....and they seem to dial back the years. Comfortably hitting shots i was 20yrs ago for distance. Not won anything this year so far but just need to eradicate the mistakes. All in all a great iron
That manufacturers accommodate all preferences is a good thing, great v-log
Great video, as per usual. This is camera-nerdy, but I super appreciate the use of shallow depth of field you employ - really takes the videos to a much higher level.
As a player of the original Sim Max (not OS) irons, I've got to say how impressed I am with the looks of this new iteration. Love the (slightly) slimmed down effect, and the backs are just beautiful, especially in comparison. I've had no issues with the lofts being stronger - instead of a 5-iron, I'm pulling a 7 - just know your distances and it's all the same (except making my old 3-iron much easier to hit now as a 5 ;) ).
When it's time to upgrade (definitely not yet), these (or whatever iteration they're on) will definitely be on the list.
One question, though - how do you feel these compare to the PXG 0211s? I quite like the looks of those, and the price certainly can't be beat (especially when on sale). Any difference at all in feel/launch/spin?
Thanks for all the content - truly appreciated!
April is when the irons will be hitting the fitters. I tried the TM irons on Trackman since 2018. Each time, I’ve compared them with my current irons (PING G). Fitters look at the data, shrug their shoulders and I keep hitting what I have. I’ve not played with Taylormade irons, I own and play a TM M4 driver and bought TM hybrids but put them in the closet and kept using my custom fit Cleveland Mashie 3,4,5 hybrids. My point is, get fitted, play what you have confidence in. That’s what makes it fun.
Totally agree with you on the loft. Why would the loft of a club matter to anyone. To me it’s all about performance. Average yardage for that club is what matters to me. Being a super senior if technology can help me from losing distance I’m all in. If they make that iron “Stealth” all the better. In golf they never ask you how just how many.
I think these look great and they are easy to hit. I just picked my set up today. My normal 7i was total distance 155. I am hitting these 7i total 185-191 with 81 club head speed. I can’t wait to try these tomorrow on the course. Got the 5-AW and 4H. Changed from Mavrik Max clubs. My only problem is my 7 wood rogue st is same loft as my new 5i at 21 degrees. Most likely won’t need both as they will probably be same distance. May sell my 5w and 7w and get a 3was my 5w and 7w are fairly close in distance.
Thank you for the answered request. Great review. I currently play the sim2 max and now I'm definitely gonna switch to the stealth irons. Thanks again.
WHY dont they put degree numbers on clubs rather than an arbitrary number?
Just got notification that my new PXG 0211’s have been shipped. At 67, I’m in need of a little more help for distance, and after testing these, they fit the bill nicely. And at $95 🇨🇦 each, they are an incredible deal. I’m looking forward for the snow to melt and courses to open so I can give them a wack. Until then I’ll practice in my golf studio.
You got a a great buy Brain, enjoy pal
How long did you have to wait Brian? Ordered mine back on 12th Dec still waiting 🤔
@@drewl4921 .............I bought mine late December, 8 days from order to delivery.............I did get stock steel shafts though
@@stanthomas9890 that’s good, might be delays in UK then where I am. I’ve emailed PXG and said there due for dispatch end of January, just wish they had mentioned that when I was placing my order.
Looking forward to them and taking my old Cobra’s out the bag even though they have served me well, just never liked the feel
@@drewl4921 … I ordered them late evening Dec 28th (Christmas present to self).
Tongue in cheek ( click bait ) is what we need less of ! Hence the reason I’ve been here on your channel since day one. You guys are better then that and your videos speak for themselves. Like a good song or a fine wine. With that being said…. Great review as usual. I may give these a chance this year based on this video review alone. ( Unless Cobra releases the LTD irons to match the new LTD driver !)
Cheers.
The Loft Police…😂
I just demoed the P790 and the stealth and came away really impressed with the stealths. I don’t have a fast swing speed so the stealth fit me well.
I was getting an extra 10-15 with the 7 iron compared to my gamer which is 2 degrees weaker but the stealth got great launch with good spin and decent.
And I think they look great. The top line doesn’t look big and chunky at all too me. Very playable looking.
I want more distance in my game in a good looking forgiving package.
Think I’m gonna put these stealth’s in my bag.
Love the outtake at the end there Andy. Good looking bats without a doubt. My Pro is going to let me have a go when the fitting cart arrives at the end of the month. Will let you know what I think of them and the driver hen.
Love the looks. Look forward to trying these irons out.
I like Ping irons, G425 and could care less what anybody thinks about them. When someone wants to buy me a new set of irons, then I'll worry what they think.
Got fitted yesterday and after going through the motions, these were the ones I ended up playing best. Weirdly
I barely looked at what make club I had in my hand each hit and one by one crossed others off the list due to which suited me. Happy though with the look to be fair. Great review. Cheers for the content. YNWA
Good review, logical, pragmatic, realistic and helpful. You make a good point that what the average player should focus on is having clubs that will give him distances X Y and Z, not which club number it is. There are excellent fitters doing demonstrations of these irons that I have watched and who actually hit 207 to 212 with the Stealth 7 iron. The thought the clubs were good, touched on the same points you did. But for them personally they felt the distances were more than they needed and might leave them with gap problems at both the long iron and wedge end. For them, the more important thing was tight dispersion and consistency and repetition of carry and spin. But you are right about the average recreational golfer. By the way, one thing I wonder about is whether these irons with so many parts will be durable for years to come and when exposed to wide ranges of hot and cold temps as they sit in players trunks (boots to you).
Who gives a sh_t what they look like if they can knock a few strokes off your round. I have golfed with a lot of different people and not once did I ever say, or hear someone say, "those are ugly clubs".
Thanks for the information I appreciate your candor. I think this will help when I finally get out to my local golf shop.
Titleist T300’s 2021 are one of the best looking and preforming irons in the mid handicapper area. Love mine.
Yes I would agree
I guess I am one of the rare breed that really isn't bothered by what my clubs look like. I get fitted every 5 years and play whatever jumbled up mix of heads and shafts that give the best numbers/gapping. My current bag: Original Rogue driver, Mizuno Fli Hi 2 iron, Rogue 3 and 4 hybrids ... Mizuno JPX 921 Fli Hi 5, 6 and 7. 8 through GW Mizuno JPX 921 HM. Callaway Jaws 56 and 60. Toulon Atlanta putter. 4 handicap. I have played with some strangers who eye my 7 "iron" with a bit of a smirk, but when I walk off the course with a 75 and they shoot 90, why would I care?
It’s how many not how
I agree they look stunning and on par price wise with the other brands
They look good. Is it going to make me pull the trigger to buy? No. I've got a set of Adams clubs a decade old that is 3-5 hybrid 6-SW blades and, to be blunt, I like them a lot. I do see not much use for a 5w now a days due to my 3i hybrid hitting about the same distance and cleaner on average. Something for me to work on is understanding how far a clean hit 5w should go so I play it when I should and that's what winter video practice is for :)
Nice looking game improvement irons. Looks is one of the key reasons I chose my Wilson Staff D7s last year.
For some it doesnt matter but it is to me
Andy I have those as well, stronger lofts than my old Wilson set but these hit higher and further and look 👍 and are a good bit cheaper
I really like the look of this iron but the lofts are crazy. I'm talking about the 6 degrees of loft between PW and AW vs 2.5 degrees between the 4 and 5 irons. I think TM assumes that the golfers that buy these irons are high handicappers that have a huge front to back dispersion they won't notice that the 3 lowest lofted iron all fly nearly the same yardage.
so they are in your bag? they look nice
Replaced the clubs since I wrote last,, 6,7,8,9,pw and aw stealth. .driver sim2 sim2 3 wood and sim max 5 wood, fits my current course yardage perfect
Taylormade already made the perfect iron in the P790 imo but these look really nice. Thanks for the review Andy & Hannah... Well done as always.
hello, I am handicap 10 do you think this iron will suit me I am 52 years old I have a moderate speed swing, I am looking for an easy to play series, with a gain in distance. Last question the lofts being lower the apex is it not too low, and given the orientation of the face the trajectories do not pull too much to the left?
I have PXG gen 3 irons and love them and just purchase the PXG 0811XF Gen4 10.5 Driver with a EvenFlow Riptide CB 50g shaft for $299 got 20 more yds and better consistency.
Looks: TM have a winner, seriously good looking for a GI/SGI iron. I love the fact that TM has gone the opposite way to so many others on the back with no decals other than their name and the Stealth brand, I call the infestation of decals on the back of irons, Cobraitis because I blame Cobra for it.
Lofts: I agree with Andy, I do not really care what the lofts are provided each iron delivers a consistent set of numbers, and there is about 10-12 yards gap between carry distances of each club.
In terms of performance: Again I agree with Andy, the issue is whether the irons deliver sufficient stopping power on greens. The spin rates are slightly lower than ideal from the loft they have but nothing unreasonable but the flip side is that the peak height & descent angles are higher than I would have expected from the loft. So unless you only play on links courses with firm/very firm greens these look to have good stopping power, more than I would expect from the loft.
I do, however, have one concern which would need to be tested. Some of the loft gaps between clubs are very large - 6 degrees between 9i & PW, 6 degrees between PW & AW, 5 degrees between 8i & 9i. I would want c. 12 yards gap in carry between clubs and I do worry that the large loft gaps might deliver a significantly bigger gap. Testing with a complete set would be nice to check whether or not my concern is misplaced
Think it's time to stamp degrees instead of numbers on the soles.
Yes I would agree with that John
They somehow remind me of some of the Nike Irons just before they pulled out making equipment and they are a vast improvement on the looks of the SIM Irons.
That being I have just seen the new Rogue ST PRO Irons from Callaway and they look mint
Have you tried the Takomo 101 or 201-- they cost a lot less and gotten great reviews.
For me, the conundrum I now have is that my irons need to be sandwiched between my 5 hybrid (23 degree) and my 48 degree wedge. Looking at the lofts, I'd probably need to have the stealth irons weaker by about 1 degree, and then slightly strengthen my 5 hybrid - and then it very may well slot in nicely from 6 to PW!
That seems to be the way the game is going, longer irons replaced by hybrids, more wedges for the short game.
I think most of the courses average golfers play, are off the yellow tees, (UK) a lot of par 4 holes are a good drive / 3wood then a short iron into the green, so the traditional mid irons rarely used
My current irons are 4i - LW at 24* - 58* and really can't hit lower than 24*. My gapping, trajectory, etc. are good so I don't see how I can get the same performance (gapping) with 2 fewer irons since the stealth 6i is 24*. Also, maybe you are saying that I might be able to hit the 21* Stealth because of the tech but I am sure that there is nowhere I can demo that club especially off the grass.
Compared to callaway xrs I found the stealths a lot harder to hit and not as forgiving as the XRs. I’ve played p790s and thought they felt exactly the same as the stealths. Super heavy and like a rock taped to the end of the shaft if you hit it wrong.
I enjoy watching your well presented and informative videos. Keep it up.
As a high handicapper, looking for a set of irons that will forgive side spin. Usually have no problem getting ball in the air but wayward left/right. Any recommendations. Ta
Cmon mate the spin was quite low and you said the descent angle is good, but you showed us no numbers for the descent angle. My opinion they look great but maybe a bit chunky for my liking. I'll stick to my PXG Gen 2 P irons. One of the best irons ever made in my opinion.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Nothing about these that draws me to them over other clubs. I'm a high single digit hc golfer and have always liked the look of forgiving clubs. Ping i2's all the way to the 425's. I haven't had all those btw but like the look. Currently gaming Sim 2 irons.
Was looking at getting these .So great to view this one AG
Certainly worth testing Phil
Currently using R11 irons 6 down to Aw ,how do the stealth look in comparison? R11 driver fairway hybrids, vokey wedges make up my set
I’ve been looking at the t300’s but may just wait a little longer 👍🏻
They are definitely the nicest looking “game improvement” irons out there.
Glad we agree
I agree about the number on the club. Just know how far you hit said club.
Great looking club Andy and better review👍
What's the price range on these or did I miss it in the video??
We have them as an rrp of £122 so will retail around £100 per club
Great video and review Andy hope your back on top form . Yes I think they look great not ready for new irons but definitely a better look for the category
On the mend Andrew!
@@TheAverageGolfer that's good to hear may it continue
Those new Stealth irons are very clean and modern looking. I'm playing Cobra F7 irons, which look fine at address, but have the hideous badging in the back. When I do decide to change irons, I think I'm going to go with something like the Forge Tec or P790s that have no badging at all.
Yes both nice options
In my experience in using game improvement irons easy to hit, great speed, low spin, high launch, high towering shots, steep descending angle, hit the green and stop, but only when the greens are soft. Hard greens they hit and keep on going over the green. I don't have that problem with forged blades. Pluses and minuses, choose wisely for your game!
Great review. They are certainly not overtly game improvement looking clubs and I like the launch they give. Anything that helps the average golfer gain launch back from the course is a good thing and if your not ready for hybrid irons these seem ideal
Love the look of these new irons! That was the problem I had with the SIM/SIM2's. The whole torsion bar thing at the back and boldish graphics, errr!😜
Only one minor dislike of the Stealth's is the black toe wrap around bit. Alright on the back but not on the toe.
Now that the Stealth HD irons are out, I think it would be safe to say these are game improvement clubs vs super game improvement which is what the Stealth HD line is.
Haven't been much into Taylormade the last few years but the stealth clubs do look nice.
Great review Andy keep up the good work mate ,these new clubs look pretty cool for game improvement clubs , There is a taylormade demo booked at my golf club in the near future I may give these a try ,along with the P790 irons just to compare with my mizuno xp850 forged
Yes try as many as you can
Love the comment about the loft police 🤣. Great looking iron. Do taylormade do weaker lofts as part of a custom fit in these should you want to. Great video and keep them coming
I dont think they would on these cast irons Andy
@@TheAverageGolfer shame as they could maybe do with it as there's just the one model this yr
@@mrwoo33 Actually, not to be contradictory, but if you order directly from TM, you can, in fact, go up or down on loft - I'm at the website now. You just have to select "customize this club" on the "Stealth" (or any club, for that matter) page, and there you can adjust both lie angle (up to 4 degress flat/upright) and loft (up to 2 degrees weak/strong). That would make the 7-iron 30, which while still strong, is much less "oh god the loft police are coming" and more "yeah, so what, I can hit my 7 iron as far as you hit your 6 - I'm THAT strong cough cough." :)
@@MattSwanson cheers mathew. Would be more appealing to me with a bit more loft, 👍
Great review! Looking forward to hitting those beautiful irons.
Let me know when you do
@@TheAverageGolfer absolutely! Blessings and take care.
What happened to the wood studio you built?
Good review we’ll explained. Clearly good clubs that will help many players. Could be a problem for specific yardages as so many of these game improvement irons end up flying off the face but often the difference between the front and the back of the green, not knowing which it will be. Still if it is on the green that would be useful.
Nice looking irons, they should do well. So many good choices....
Enjoyed the video, keep up the great work!!
Thanks, will do!
They look alright Andy. Bit have just purchased a new set of PXG 0211 irons and love them. So I'll have to wait a while yet to get a new set.
Your good as you are Victor, a great buy
Good review!
Looks like they kinda resemble the G425s and better looking than their previous versions. Some of the old irons looked kinda like an after thought.
Another great review! These look easy on the eye, ref performance do you think they're much more of a step on from the 2019 M6 Irons. Enjoying those at the moment !
No I don't
@@TheAverageGolfer thanks Andy will save my money 🙂
Indeed strong lofted disguises the actual performance. Wish you would have showed the full set with then the gapping data. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Nice review, what are your current gaming irons?
Still play irons form 3 years ago PXG GEN03
Mizuno Pro all the way - for me 221 but the whole range - 💪💪💪💪💪🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Nothingfeelslikeamizuno!!!!🙂🙂🙂
I’m going to get fit for irons for the first time and I wanted to get fit for Mizunos or Srixons but then TM released these. These very well may end up in my bag z
same here I ended up ordering the MIZUNO JPX 921 HOTMETALS.....love the feel and the flight of the ball...the SRIXON ZX4 were nice too but the Mizuno felt a bit softer....
If you prioritize “look” I prefer the p790s. But if these irons perform for you, that is much more important and you have spent your money wisely.
I would say these are more playable than the P790 for most and around £50 an iron less in cost
The Average Golfer. I’ve recently opted for the P790 and am not sold on them. As an 18 hcp I was apprehensive as to whether my swing would be good/consistent enough for the P790, perhaps I should have opted for the stealth, but the again they weren’t around October time last year.
They look great to me. Would definitely consider if I was going to spend that amount of cash on irons.
I'm not a Taylormade fan but I would never buy a iron named after a driver, there resale value plummets after a new driver is released. I would go P790 if I was looking for distance and improvement!!
PXG 0211, thin top line, forgiving, looks superb,,,,,,,,,,,,, AND CHEAP, proper cheap ! Less than £700 for 5 iron to L wedge. Other manufacturers wake up and smell the roses.
Yep great buy
A lot of what you say is true....But for a golfer who is 15 to 20 handicap and games these irons an want to stay there OK but because of the lofts, A 7 iron at 28 deg, my Hogan is 34 and Wilson is a 35...This would blow your mind when playing irons with this great of loft difference...To me this is a faults sence of security....Why don't these golf makers make a game improvement iron with some real lofts??? Don't think I will be getting interested in Taylor irons thou these look great...Mizuno 225 would be a better fit for me and a players improvement iron as well...Thanks for you view point...
When the manufacturer moves the CG so far back to help promote high launch there has to be a stronger loft to avoided a ‘ballooning’ effect, in other words the ball goes high but not forward, hence the stronger loft 👍
I got the sim2 max irons these do look better visually I doubt there alot difference enjoying my sim2 for now. I'm most excited to try the Callaway and TaylorMade 3 woods. Would def like try the new rogue pro irons too them look amazing
Performance is same Mitch, hopefully have some Callaway Rogue irons soon to test
Yea def interested see how they do for ya. I think what I had liked bout the sim2 irons I had the 2017 790s when they came out and didn't give up the blade length a little feel but not like I would have thought I was def pleasantly surprised with em had intended to get the new 790s to replace the old ones but deside save some cash and haven't been disappointed
They look stunning but, they ain’t cheap! You could do a lot better looking at DTC company like, Sub 70: Haywood, Ben Hogan, or Cleveland Launcher XL Irons
These or the 2021 T300's?
I like the look of this of this game improvement club...which I rarely say.
Now here is the weird part...I love the Stealth name for a driver...but hate it for an iron. Go figure.
Thank you very much. I consider to buy these for my wife. 😊😊😊
I don't understand what the issue is. Thick, thin, whatever, if it works for you who cares. Someone in your group says why on earth are you using these irons. There's so many comebacks, I don't have the time to list all of them.
Reminds me of Nike irons from the past
Great review. Good insights
Great video as usual!
Not pushing yourself? You are doing well ! Good review as usual.. still take it easy mate.
This was filmed pre COVID apart from the very end 👍
I'm still leaning towards the 223
Personally looks don't bother me ...it's what they do for my game that counts....
Why don't they just call them by the loft?
Happy New Year TAG Team!
Happy new year!
Great Review, the lofts should not matter if they suit you.
Agreed
The number on the club is irrelevant. Loft is irrelevant. As long as you have a club that goes the distance you need it to and stop as quickly as you need it to, all is good. But that aesthetic? Yeah, that's a "nah" from me.