Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost's Championship Deciding Crash | 1989 Japanese Grand Prix
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- The moment Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost's rivalry was cemented into F1 history. Senna had to win to beat his team mate Prost to the 1989 title, but despite crossing the line first after a collision between the two - the story didn't end there...
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Today marks the 30th anniversary of this infamous race - are you team Senna or Prost?
Im team Grosjean
Team senna
Team Maldonado
Senna
Team Prost.
*Both crash*
Murray: "THIS IS FANTASTIC"
Would of been worse if he said "YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!"
Joker: You're awful Murray
Yeah words had more meaning back then as language wasn't dumbed down so much as it is now.
The classic Murrayism commentary. Its a play of words.
@@pawel9992 difficult to believe😐
ooh boy, this would have caused an online shitstorm if twitter existed back then
Indeed
Just imagine Drive to survive if they filmed it in 1989 😁
Antonio Labaš wooooww that would be beautiful
Twitter is a NPC sh!t hole.
Just because Twitter didn't exist, doesn't mean it didn't create an enormous worldwide shitstorm. Life and news media existed before the internet, you know! Newspapers, TV, radio, magazines all fulfilled the role of TH-cam and Twitter. The only thing Facebook and Twitter have achieved is to allow non-famous people like you and me to make ourselves heard. Ok, Generation X rant over. Go back to your Fortnite or whatever it is you young whippersnappers get up to. ;-)
Gap: exists
Senna: still a racing driver
Sein Schatten he shouldn’t have been penalised for continuing but there is no way on earth when you watch it back that he was close enough.
Most underrated comment on the history of this channel.
@@Jimmie92 My comment was just a hommage to one of Sennas quotes. He once said in an interview: "If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver".
@NobleGuy stolen championship 😂
@NobleGuy senna is still the goat 🤷🏻♂️
Gentleman, a short view back to the past, 30 years ago.
Everybody butchered this amazing meme...
Niki Lauda told us
30 Yeeaats awgo, artyton and prowst, crashed and artyton is disqualified, their were many who disaggwee but back then F1 was very diffrent, my question to the Drivers is, has FIA changed alot within 30 years, or is FIA Has too much buttons, and lewis, when will yoh make your new book
@Tim Dev
@badf1opinions
@@Seafury18 wtf is thst
The red underlining of the text was a key factor in this video
A terrible one at that too
Controversial
had to win
great rival
balance of power
now-infamous
got going again...
or so he thought
Senna was disqualified for missing the chicane when re-entering the track
The FISA hardened their stance after McLaren's appeal.
Senna has been banned for six months and fined £100,000
toxic
quitting in protest,
It is amazing that senna can have that collision, be pushed by Marshalls, then rejoin, then pit for repairs and still take the lead off someone when more than half the race was over.......
Bwoah i thought mercs and red bull were dominant but this is something else
The McLaren that prost and senna used to drive was more than just dominant, it was light years ahead of the competition, and yet people didn't called F1 boring like they do with Mercedes now, maybe because the rivalry between prost and senna was amazing whereas Hamilton vs Bottas isn't really captivating lmao
He did everything right to win the race, but then he was disqualified because he cut the chicane?!?!
I thought he was disqualified because of the crash
@@iosulas The crash surely played a huge part in the disqualifying. This way the FIA could ban him for unsportsmanlike driving without clearly outlining who's at fault in the crash. Maybe they wouldve DQ'd Prost as well for closing the door too much, had he been able to continue driving... who knows.
@@TaikaJamppa imo he should have been disqualified because he was assisted by the Marshalls. Imagine Vettel in 2018 Germany or Leclerc/Hulk in 2019 being assisted back on the track after they go in the barriers.... That is totally unfair
@@architmundada6066 back then it was pretty normal marshals push car back on track. Even when Michael schumacher and Mika häkkinen race i remember Michael get help by marshals.
1,7s quicker than his team mate in quali🤯
Last time this happened was... oh wait, Gasly, right.
this is conspiracy but apparently Prost went slower on purpose to get the left side of straight since there are less dirt. His machine was set up so he can stretch well on straight. that might be another reason why there was such a big gap
@@Finkelfunk bruh moment
@@Finkelfunk when?
Prost didn't give a shit about quali, he had better race pace, more consistency and a substancial lead in the championship.
FIA : Labelled Senna dangerous driver.
Maldonado : Hold my beer! 🍺
Cerveza*
More tired meme related comments...YAAAAAWN....
And you forgot the Kyviat torpedo
Anurag lol
@Anurag Valtteri, it's James. Let Lewis through, he is not able to gain the position himself.
I love that McLaren livery
Marlboro livery
Indeed. It's the legendary livery of McLaren
I prefer the Vodafone livery
It's basically a cigarette pack
its the color of the then Marlboro Red cigarette pack
No rules, no filters, no team overtakes, no tactics. Pure race, genuine f1 moments by the best pilots and the best f1 cars.
Best cars.. That's a pessoal opinion
Man when will this become a movie
@The Unknown there's a documentary "Senna"
There is one. No need for a full fledged movie like Rush. There's a lot of footage in this era of F1.
@@pranavps851 The SENNA documentary is biased trash. Prost was no saint but neither was Senna (or Mansell, on Piquet, or Burger, or anyone competing at the pinnacle of any sport). The SENNA doc is shameless fan-pandering to the Senna cult and grossly unfair, to point of being slanderous, against Prost!
and the final shot of the movie is them both staring at each other one year later, after the payback
@Carmen McBride I guess that's the truth. The movie was about Senna, so they couldn't really show his other side since it was kind of a homage.
“Prost it’s James, let Senna by”
If this was 2019
"James like i said before the race, i will not open the door"
Can't even compare Ham & Bot.
Nah, McLaren was so strong back then, it was obvious that they would finish the championship 1-2, no need for a wingman.
Dmas Tangi this was for the championship so There wouldnt be team orders
Senna: No!
James: Ok!
Can we get a Palmer analysis of some those iconic moments?
Yep, I’d love to see that
@@itsvizor171 Would be Great! Epic to see...
Yeah and comparing it against Jerez 97 and Adelaida 94 or Suzuka 90. In 97 Shumacher was disqaulified from whole championsip, but nothing for Prost and Schumacher at 89, 90 and 94.
But Palmer is only familiar with the current tracks and cars. He wouldn't be able to give real analysis of old events, especially from blurry footage.
@@lc9245 Then maybe somebody from 80's or 90's?
“Oh My Goodness This is Fantastic!”
-Murray Walker
In my opinion you can also hear how he actually wanted to say "that's what we were hoping for" instead of "fearing for" because he hesitated a bit before he said "fearing".
You thinking what I'm thinking as well huh? Nice to meet you here.
One of your famous commentaries. Rest in peace, Murray.
Who is here after Max and Lewis crashed again? Lol. Great times in F1
When I saw that crash I immediately thought about this one with Senna and Prost
Seems like the FIA have taken their pick for the Champion this year too😂.
@@Shifftee whos that on you profile pic? It gives me somehow chills and nostalgia idk why
@@maxzorin5433 I know, their bias towards Hamilton is getting pathetic now.
Hello
Senna was the reason i started watching F1 races... For me, he is the greatest of all times...
Well he really only had 1 other driver as his competition, his teammate Prost. Their two cars were so so so much better than anything else, much more dominant than Hamilton's Merc ever was.
@@datNERO17 What about him excelling in toleman and lotus? He earned that seat... He fought legends like Schumacher, Piquet, Mansell and Prost...
What are you trying to say kid?
@@adamdix2929 He's just far from making any sense, Senna was amazing.
@@datNERO17 and this other driver as his competition was one of the best drivers ever, Alain Prost...
@@graxe4 and Michael Schumacher too
If this race was in the 2010s....
"Alain, Ayrton is faster than you, do you understand this message."
I think you're the only kiddo understanding nothing here. Normal, with a pikachy avatar. What can we wait about you?
Prost and Senna were both phenomenal. Honda and Mclaren were beasts back then as well.
Ayrton Senna said after this race:
We are all on the limit.The chassis and the car is on the limit, the human being is on the limit.
That's what it's all about motor racing, that's what it's all about Formula 1.
@Adelaide
Doesn't excuse his move up the inside.
@@serdiplomat5797 Please explain. The move on Prost was dirty, but the same move on Nannini, who opened the door, was just fine?
There's a video with Max Verstappen and then his teamte Pierre Gasly where they both stated Senna did nothing wrong with that move. What's wrong there?
@@serdiplomat5797 Shouldnt have leave the door open.
@@jakubklimek717 Nannini locked up and went wide. Senna was way closer to Nannini then he was to Prost so the door was wide open for Senna to stroll through unlike Sennas dumbass move down the inside of Prost that failed miserably
@@kas_3126 Prost turned like he wanted to cut the kerbs, Senna's move was suicidal but Prost wasn't innocent at all
"This is fantastic"😂
"fantastic" used to have the meaning of "unreal" or "unbelievable", these days it's only used to mean "very good" or "great"
2 sounds are missing from F1 now.
1. Screaming engines
2. The great Murray Walker
MrStig691 ignore Crixus. He is a known vile and petty yt commenter.
Unpopular opinion: The V6's sound quite nice. Very smooth, especially when you can hear the ERS
@@george4821honda engines in 2019-2021 have the best sound, IN THE HYBRID ERA
This... This is a Prime example to show that F1 isnt just fast cars.
"Oh my goodness this is fantastic " is y we miss Murray Walker
Did he retire because he ran out of helium?
I don't
This comment not aged well..
And now we have the same type of story this year what a great year to be a formula one fan 🔥
-1.7 seconds faster then Prost in qualifying
- won in Brazil in the rain (IN 6TH GEAR ONLY)
Legend
Speechless...
Best driver ever!
The fact that Senna was 1.7 seconds faster in qualifying means absolutely nothing. Alain knew that Senna would mostly beat him in qualifying, therefore did enough to get second. Makes no difference if a tenth slower or 1.7 seconds slower, as long as faster then third Alain still started in the same spot. Do you understand? Alain sure as hell did, as does anybody else with even moderate intelligence.There is absolutely no proof that either Senna or Alain were on the limit in qualifying, so your 1.7 seconds faster dribble has no relevance.
Given the importance of the race, once it started one can be almost certain that both drivers were absolutely on the limit, Alain trying to increase the gap, and Senna desperately trying to close it. This shows the real gap between the two was nothing like the qualifying gap. Sometimes it pays to be your own man and look at things in a skeptical way, making your own decisions instead of simply repeating the same dribble that you have read so many times you now firmly believe it and know of by heart. You think Senna was better, that’s fine. You don’t have to try to explain to readers why. I didn’t rely on statistics to decide which driver I liked better, and I doubt you did either.
@@monotoneman5980 Prost needs Fia's help to beat Senna
@@RodrigoOliveira-qd3yp Senna needed to deliberately cause a high speed accident to beat Alain. Do you see what I did there?
FIA help is just bullshit that has been written and read so many times it seems to become fact. If you can provide a credible and proven source for this FIA help I would appreciate it. Boss of FIA was French like Alain? So the fuck what.
@@RodrigoOliveira-qd3yp Senna and Brasilian TV invented that. In fact Senna cheated and Senna was ashamed being caught cheating and punished like a young child in front of all the planet.
Do not forget that when Senna won, in Brasilian TV they were used to say: Senna do Brasil.
When I was in Brasil, I was horrified how ultra nationalist are the press and the TV in this country.
It's insane.
1:20 the highest "out" I've ever heard xD
Out*
@@romeorinne Yes thanks😂 Autocorrect-_-
You mean "ouch"
Lord_Pinky_UwU Gaming from girlfriend its mostly a high IN
*Bloody hell intensifies*
Formula 1 is alive today because of its heros; and, Alain Prost & Ayrton Senna were one of them.
Without Senna, Alain would have wrote every record in the book.
But becoz they could beat each other, they will be remembered for forever.
I am with team Senna-Prost- the greatest rivalry ever till date.
Still?
Upload more videos like this ... This is fantastic
You know I wouldn't even blame max if he tried it, would make this season an insta classic.
I wouldn’t put it past him either.
@@legoseller4496 It's almost a certainty if it comes down to it
No point. They have too much data. It would have to be a genuine racing incident. Otherwise they can use Gasly, Tsunoda or Perez to do it.
I knew I would find this comment lol
@@catrionacolville2192 these drivers are the best of the best. They can make it look like a racing incident.
Ayrton, its Jean-Marie
Lol
* drinks bleach
Max, I know you'll see this through this week. You only have ONE job.
OMG I remember watching it on live TV back then as a kid. And me and my dad would just love Senna and Prost’s rivalry. But coming back to the video, I do remember that controversy about the crash... An amazing part of the history. Those were the best years of Formula 1 🙂
Ayrton Senna[*]
Senna Sempre......😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I miss you, my hero....
F1 is also missing something without Murray Walker on commentary. He always put everything into it and added that little bit extra to races.
@Dante Trajano
I can't believe I said that a year ago and now Murray is sadly gone from this world. Rest in peace Murray and Ayrton.
The music and editing really matching this era!
Senna is Four Time Champion!
No, even with the Suzuka victory he crashed in Adelaide in the last race. He needed to win that too.
@@kaptnhansenpresidentjamaic9577 i know, but Senna would work different
Senna was 3 time wirld champion
@@kaptnhansenpresidentjamaic9577 Senna was the real champion of 1989. FIA robbed him 2 races (the 2 he needed to be champion): Suzuka and Estoril (when a DQ Mansel took him out).
@@alexcla9445 I don’t see how it’s either Prost‘s or the FIA‘s fault that Senna had a crash with the already disqualified Mansell. That blame belongs to Mansell or his team (for not seeing or ignoring the black flag).
Only here preparing for next week's race.
Same.
Rest in peace legend Murray Walker! You are now 1 lap ahead with legends like Senna, Lauda, Hunt and so on...
Eventhough I’m not an adult I remember watching the race recently and enjoying it so much! Love the vid, keep it up F1!
Who is here after Verstappen vs Hamilton crash in Monza 2021?
*Oh my goodness, this is fantastic*
Senna, we really miss you...
the first song is Future Awaits
Luke Richards but second song is still unknown about this 0:22 part
Mark Petrie - Ichor Flows
@@L0RD__V4D3R thanks
@@mastonepaws np :)
1989 F1 Championship final standings if the modern day scoring system is applied:
Alain Prost: 250
Ayrton Senna: 177
Championship would have already been decided before Suzuka and it wouldn't even have been close. Just some food for thought.
Yes, Senna had too many DNF's
James Hunt as a commentator with Murray in ”Rush 2.0”, can it be better?😍
James is passed away
Yeah... You haven't heard I presume.
Joel Kumar didn’t mean it that way. I was talking about the fact that the legend James Hunt, who was part of a legendary rivalry (portrayed in Rush) got the chance to commentate the next big rivalry which could be referred to to as Rush 2.0
@@bwoah7184 I know I know, just a light hearted comment. Cheers mate
Joel Kumar cheers
new precedent: HAM vs VER (British Gp 2021)
Senna tirando carro giro na reduzida é “fantástico”
The camera view at 1:17 shows, without a doubt, that Prost turned into Senna's car. He never went for the corner. Look closely: at 1:18 Prost starts to turn in. At 1:19 they crash... but the corner's apex is not even in the shot yet. Now look at the skid marks left from Prost's car when they made contact... they start WAYYY behind the corner's apex, meaning that he turned in way too early. You also can't say it was a mistake... he turned in so early that he would cut the corner through the grass. Not a chance. Play through 1:17s to 1:20s frame by frame hitting the pause button... you'll see what I'm talking about.
Both this and the following years crash between the pair were Prosts fault.
SENNA, FANTASTIC...
could be looking at a 2.0 with HAM and VER in Abu Dhabi
you sir were 100% correct
@@tobyshefford Yes, still can’t believe how lewis cut the entire corner without receiving a penalty. But this year the better driver in the lesser car won, different compared to Prost Senna of course.
@@rensvandenakker3237 couldn't disagree with you more, the red bull was the far better car for over 70% of the season. Both drivers have driven fantastically. Pushing each other all the way. Both deserved to win and Lewis was the better of the 2 on the night. It was unfortunate how it ended. In my opinion, a stewards decision is different to the race director changing the rules. in football, refs can make bad calls. But to disregard a rule to advantage one team over another wouldn't happen. Its such a shame because whatever happens is no longer going to be won by racing but with politics
As a really proud french F1 fan, I need to admit Senna got his title robbed from him in 89. But then he risked his and Alain's life for the 90 title, so let's say it's a 1-1, egality
Nico 9138 if Senna thought someone wronged him, his revenge was, well,... words like biblical come to mind. Thats why drivers then were superstars. Not the slick PR controlled “boys” of today.
Brazillian here, agreed.
Don't be daft. It's rather academic as he DNF'ed in Adelaide 2 weeks later (100% HIS error). I agree that he didn't get the rub of the green in 1989 but that's just motor racing, he didn't get robbed by anyone.
Senna was the real champion of 1989. FIA robbed him 2 races (the 2 he needed to be champion): Suzuka and Estoril (when a DQ Mansel took him out).
And no, he is also 1990's champion because he only did that for revange, he doesn't needed at all. Prost is 3x world champion and Senna 4x WC.
Everything about Senna and his life is just magical .
The man was absolutely incredible
Senna was such a Maverick and I loved every moment of it! Legends never die.
That commentators pitch left me in hysteria
Good old Murray.
Classic Murray Walker
Murray was awesome. and who do we have today? that braindead prick Croft. ..sigh..
Why?
his voice is horrible.
Leclerc: -0.17 ahead of vettel in quali
Ferrari: Let charles by, let charles by
James: "Hey Valt--"
Bottas: "I know, I know, 48.8."
Now with 2 races to go, we're seeing a similar rivalry between Max and Lewis.
British GP 2021 reminded me of this. One great driver goes for the gap as they always do. The other great driver tries to close that gap, as he always should. When you have two great drivers on track fighting together... they will inevitably come together. The unmovable object vs the unstoppable force. That is F1. That is racing. Always has been and I hope it always will be.
Spot on!
@@rafihfn spot on!
Difference is that at Silverstone Lewis almost killed Max
@@ljummingen well he didn’t did he? He was sent to hospital for “precautionary checkups” and was back in his trailer within 2 hours
he didn't do it deliberately unlike monza, and maxes own words show this@@ljummingen
In 1996 Balestre Said that he has given Prost help to win the title
Prost didn’t need his help. He would’ve won anyway.
@Denis Valjean Grid positions in Suzuka weren’t changed in 1989 or 1990 but in 1991. Before that EVERY pole setter in Suzuka had to start on the inside. It was NOT changed by Ballestre. Search for pictures or videos of the starts in 1987 (Berger on pole), 1988 (Senna), 1989 (Senna), 1990 (Senna) and 1991 (Berger). It was changed in 1991 and Senna’s criticism that it is unfair for the pole setter to be on the less grippy side (which is true). So Balestre changed it because of Senna. Ironically Senna qualified only in 2nd for the 1991 race, which meant he had to start on the dirty side once again. Prost scored more points than Senna in both their seasons as teammates, but lost in 88 because of the points drop rule. Prost actually beat every single one of his teammates at least once after his rookie season.
Denis Valjean Senna apologist
Denis Valjean your last paragraph says it all, hence why Prost won more championships. No points for pole positions or fastest laps haha
Imagine Vettel claiming to quit after Canada 2019, the media would have a field day.
Fuczek1 COMPLETELY different though.
Senna did absolutely nothing wrong whereas Vettel went off the track
Bruno Danese neither did anything wrong, this was just worse because it was worth a WDC tittle
@@Trainmaster909 i'm sorry but vettel did nothing wrong? outbraking yourself and leaving the track is not wrong? i agree it shouldn't have been a 5 second penalty but saying vettel didn't do anything wrong is just wrong
@@felixone7506 I agree but it sucks that 5 seconds is the lightest time penalty you can get
@@felixone7506 It was a mistake, Hamilton made a few in that race. As did others. It happens when you're driving on the edge.
Verstappen x Hamilton Monza 2021 >>>> Senna x Prost Suzuka 1989
Yeah, Hamilton being the FIA's golden boy.
Coming to Abu Dhabi next week:
If you pause the video around 1:18 to 1:20 you can see that Prost caused the collision by moving his car towards the grass. Let's put it this way, if Senna wasn't there he wouldn't have moved his car THAT early because that's not the racing line. He knew a collision would make him the '89 champion so he didn't really care. As much as I admire Prost because he was a superb driver and a legend of the sport, he was wrong and should have behaved as a sportsman. Why didn't he 'close the door' earlier? Why wasn't he on the inside line? It was way too late to move the car and he only did because he knew Senna wouldn't break, he wouldn't have time anyway and a collision would give him the title.
Those were some good days which we all don't see anymore!
In the end of the world:
Murray: This is fantastic
La rivalidad mas grande de la F1. Una lucha entre maestro y discipulo. Grande Senna
Another terrible officiating call by the FIA. He should've never been disqualified. Rubbing is racing. Stewards won't let drivers race in F1, they are always penalizing for every little thing. Exactly the reason F1 will never surpass IndyCar or NASCAR in the US
Here after Toto's recent comment!
Cars get a little bump from the side, and both engines go out... thats quality material right there!
These cars were so easy to stall. Back then, the smallest of spins would see a driver retire
If only Vettel and Hamilton fought like this 💪🏼💪🏼
no
no
no
no
Emilio Fernandez not possible because of the Stuart’s and the fia
Uma das maiores rivalidades da História da F1
Max watchin this video like *hmmmmmmm*
*"OH MY GOODNESS! THIS IS FANTASTIC!"*
Murray Walker - 1989
1:12 the roar of the engine is the best sound i have ever heard
Someone please show it to Max
The race I would never forget....
THIS IS FANTASTIC!
Thats what we are gonna see in Abu Dhabi next weekend between Max and Hamilton
Love the old school sound...
It is verstappen vs hamilton monza deciding crash in 2021??
12.12.2021: Here we go again
feels like a mini version of 'RUSH' the movie.
Anyone else here just before the Abu Dhabi GP?
1:04 oh man, look that engine sound, miss that soo much
FIA today: 10 second penalty to the marshall
FIA in 1989: disqualified from the race and given a six-month suspension and £100,000 fine
@@elliotcrossan6290 Senna wasn't black and English
*Max Verstappen has liked this video*
O Melhor do Mundo , foi de arrepiar esse vídeo. Parabéns
Yes boooooooys. Who's here preparing for Abu Dhabi after tonight?!
Me.
1989, Senna: "I won't forget that!" ( to be continued...)
Here after Italy 2021
We might see things in a few days between Max and Lewis
0:03 The commentary
1:18
Prost is turning into the chicane way too early.
Does that mean that it was deliberate?
Because if it is the case, it is the wrong man who got disqualified.
@@drybones7475 oh hi dry bones! I don't know if it was deliberate. Only Prost can say that.
@@mycommentsgoviral2157 In my opinion, Senna's DSQ was not justified.
That's because Prost is not turning into the chicane. He's turning into Senna.
This is absolutely legendary, real racing, a real incident, two drivers pushing each other to the absolute limit and going beyond it, something Hollywood fake drama or DTS can only dream of make feel to fans, the intensity the real F1 produces is unmatchable.
Rewatching this for the 934th time, now in preparation for tomorrow.
RIP Senna
Rest in Peace Murray😪
Girls: Boys don't know what a true betrayal is.
Boys:
(EDIT): Don't be offended okay this is only a joke
What’s the point of the girl boy relation? I’m a girl and I give some serious shít about F1🤷🏽♀️
@@itsvizor171 relax it's supposed to be a joke
@@geert574 Being a shit face like you also the sole domain of men.
@@legoracer1112 It's a shit joke that reinforces the "boys club" toxic environment of motosports.
The Raddest Scorpion What’s the purpose of getting offended due to a joke someone made? Jeez, just calm down and stop taking it so seriously.
who's here after max and lewis at monza '21??
Driver: *Crashed*
Commentator: "This is fantastic"
lol
It's Murray Walker so he'd have meant it in the old school sense of the word rather than meaning it's great. Murray is one of the greats of commentary.
@Yo Ben incest??? Why? So you mean it used to be dangerous but now not?