V10 BMW M5 Touring Running Costs - How Much?!
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At the start of 2022, we took a massive plunge by buying an E61 BMW M5 Touring - notoriously one of the most unreliable performance cars ever made! After three months of ownership, Mike Fernie has added up all the numbers to reveal just how much it has cost to run our 8,00rpm V10 estate car. It hasn't been cheap...
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I know why it cost so much , it's because the global elitists only want to drive it for themselves. The only people that can afford this Global crisis that they created is they themselves
Some say… he can feel it when your rear suspension is a mere 10mm lower than the factory setting.
I know, it's crazy he could sense that just from driving it for a few hours... the man's not human...
This was the key takeaway for me… remarkable guy! That is talent.
Of course, he has a built-in altimeter.
LEGO Space ✌🏻🚀
It crazy he could feel it.
I remember my E60 M5 being epic. It's ability to demolish a full tank of V-Power in comfortably under 100 miles was a speciality. They're a proper car. No doubt.
Genuinely appreciate the two values in the breakdown. It's obvious that channels like this can make the car work because of the deals and agreements you can make but it's fascinating to know what that actually works out as. Kudos!
My M5 V10 saloon cost me last year around £650 ( insurance , 6 months tax , mot )
Petrol for spring/summer around £1500 as only use for weekends every 2 to 3.
Preventative Maintenance = injectors..£630 fitted
That’s was last year not to bad. 😎👍🇬🇧
Seems pretty reasonable for a weekend car. You wouldn’t get prices like that on one of those in Ireland. €1890 to €2300 on tax alone.
Mine would've cost me £7k in repairs and consumables in 18 months of ownership. Fuel gauge, clutch + gearbox power unit, VANOS, front discs. Get a warranty.
@@raypang1981 not worth it as to expensive plus the car has nearly 92000 miles , don’t use it enough either.
@@groupb5420 Problem is if something does go (and they tend to do so without much warning) then that's effectively the car written off.
@@raypang1981 if maintained properly this is a very unlikely event. I have had mine since new and have had throttle actuator and fuel pump go out. Every other expensive issue has been preventative or wear items (tires, clutch). I have the manual trans so don’t have to deal with SMG costs. My clutch went out at 94k miles and was very gradual. I’ve never been stranded by the car.
I really want to give a shout out to the camera men/women doing the videography/photography. As a (still) photographer myself, you're doing a fantastic job ya'll and I'm really enjoying it!
Shiba LOWEST PRICE OF THE MARKET SHIBI long term
I have to agree, their videography is top notch and makes for such entertaining and engaging videos.
Shout out to Lucy! Brilliant videographer.
Fun fact: 11:51 Those spark plugs for that V10 are exactly the same ones that are used in the smart fortwo 450 and smart roadster 452 with the 698cc 3-cylinder engine (NGK LKR8A)
I'm not buying my 70 year old dad a bollock trimmer for father's day 😄😄😄😄
Hey Dad mum says you've got out of control bollock hairs. Happy Fathers day!
@@ivorproblem1332 😄😄
Clarkson must love driving this M5, I still remember his iconic review 😂
That review is the reason i bought one, fell in love with the car after that vid
Before watching video I thought that i would be able to afford running one of these (high powered estates) but when actual numbers are given, then I realise that I would have to take a loan out for running one of these 😁, so thanks for transparency!!!
If you have to ask how much then you can’t afford it. I had an E90 M3 that I loved wholeheartedly. In the 30 months I owned it it cost me >£20k in depreciation, fuel, serving and insurance. Worth every penny to me though!
the fact that Ben could tell the rear suspension was 10mm too low.... genius
The total Johnny Punter price is twice what my car cost when I bought it, but that isn't what surprised me most. What amazes me is that the 6-month road tax is equivalent to 2-months of financing payments of my car.
Another great and honest video on a truly wonderful, if expensive, car. There's just something about the lines of the V10 M5 Touring and the way it sits on it's wheels that just looks right. Maximum points to Steve (Mr Vanos) is there anything about these cars that he doesn't know ? I doubt it.
You guys should have thrown in a clip of May shouting standard! When Fernie had him drop the rear end
I think this is one of those cars that you just should not buy if you're worried at all about maintenance costs. Lots of more practical, less expensive, fun options out there. That being I absolutely love this m5 wagon. It's a dream car for sure.
Auto tech from USA . All modern cars in US. recommendation spark plug change. 100,000 miles. Spark plugs is double platinum or iridium spark plugs. I have 47 years experience working on cars and trucks. Back in the 70s change spark plugs every 12,000 miles they were a copper core spark plugs
It's gonna be getting the manual box installed!
That e61 loom issue, done both of mine, if it hasn’t been done, unless you never open the boot it will need it. What goes, reversing light, radio, washer hose and goes every where you get the idea.
Plus the alarm module sits under the rear roof spoiler so if the alarm is starting to misbehave then there's another fun job. The only BMW I have owned was a 1972 BMW 2000 Touring and that was such a cool car.
The number plate light would only be a minor defect since 2018.
1 is still working.
A video for people who really don't understand ANYTHING about cars - how can you make such a long video on changing oil and spark plugs?!?! Oh, and the massive task of changing a bulb....dear Lord!
Wow your insurance is pricey Mike! I pay about £400 for my M6 (business mileage included @10k per year) and the tax is about £360 per year (Feb 2006 reg).
I've done about 7k miles in 2 years in mine and so I use it a lot less than you, and I've yet to hit 280 out of a tank! I often get about 130-150 miles, but I mostly enjoy the car and do short trips, so they is about right.
The rod bearings cost me about £1600 to do at BMR and mine is standard, so no intakes or exhaust mods and I won't be respraying, so they saves quite a bit of your estimate too.
Servicing is very expensive though, with both dealers and specialists charging about £300 for oil changes and £750 for oil and spark plugs. I'm not convinced that plugs need changing every 7k miles thigh, BMW reckon 45k intervals, so half that and you should be fine.
These ARE expensive cars to run if you use them daily, but much of the cost is optional (cosmetic or mods) and if the mileages is low, the cost will be lower too.
he did 7k miles in 3 months...
@@bobmarley2140 yeah I know, as I say I've done that in 2 years! I wouldn't be using it that much unless I have a oil well in my back garden, his annual mileage would be 28k if he keeps this up, which is about £12k in petrol alone!!
“I before E, except after C”
Really like the idea of doing costings as well
But why add additional costs like painting, detailing and modification? I see major costs as insurance and fuel. 550 pounds for service is ok.
And in comparison I bought a brand new Skoda Octavia 1.5 tsi 1st edition brand new but pre registered for £17995.00 ran it for 15 months and 8000.00 miles and virtually got same amount back when I sold it to Skoda 😄
Er....other costs not included.
Tyres? They've got to be a couple of hundred per corner and I bet it get's through a set every 10k miles.
Depreciation? Or maybe 'appreciation'? I would expect a 2007 BMW estate would be on a downward price spiral but maybe there is a rarity value to this model that might make it gain value?
And also, considering the amount of use it gets, there must be a cleaning bill, assuming you don't just go out with a bucket and sponge yourself.
Guessing he just hasn't had to replace the tyres since this is a "what I've actually spent" number but probably £1,000 for a decent set. 7k miles mean the rears must be due soon though if he hasn't done them, considering they've got 2 tonnes and 500hp trying to wreck them. Car value I'd imagine hasn't changed enough to note. Cleaning isn't something most people factor into car costs, but you could probably count the detail he's included...just spread that out over about 50 years to make it more realistic for a non-TH-cam car 😄
Geez 10 to 15 quarts of oil in on of these. With that much oil these should never have issues. I guess if you do an oil change and leave 5 quarts (what most cars run in their entire oil system) of old oil in the sump oil related issues should be expected I guess.
If its eating platinum plugs like that, you should try the ruthenium plugs from NGK.
This engine was an epic highway km eater. I ve been doing 850 km trips and back in 24 hours with no tiredness issues. I regret selling it with only 35k miles . Throttle actuators was one common problem, had very sensitive electronics with frequent false errors, but man that sound...
I think that if BMW provided a 4 wheel drive version of it , I would buy exactly that V10 without thinking a single second.
@@magicgeorgios nope and was not available
No it that amount wasnt "slowly" building up :) Seemed pretty fast to me :)
Manual E61 M5... so excited for this!
Another excellent video... makes me appreciate my car a bit more, given that I’ve had a few bills on it over the 3 years I’ve had it! Great to see the transparency too and the total cost for what you’ve done to it... but... I’d love to know your ‘smiles per gallon’ numbers, they must be off the chart!!
£0.42 per mile in petrol?? That’s crazy
Mine was 48p/mi in 2021 and prices have gone up
Engine oil change, Transmission oil change, Differential oil change, Spark plugs change, every 7000 miles? And the news about BMW charging a monthly subscription for heated seats these days? Never wanted a BMW anyways. lol
You ever gonna address what happened to the Mondeo?
i ran the reg on my insurance.. would only cost me insurance £778.41 PA.. Bargain..
'RECEIPT'. Triggered by the thumbnail!
7000 miles In 3 months is quite a lot. You drove that thing further in 3 months than I drove my Mazda 3 since I bought it in early 2020 :D. Covid did really, really strange things to average milages. That being said, had I driven 7000 miles, I would have needed about 1350€ worth of petrol at current price level in Germany. Well I suppose, the Beamer really is thirsty :D
Had a 535I and an X5. Loved driving BMWs , hated dealerships and Pricing. Bought a Porsche which was $$$$ but still cheaper and better quality. BMW is a dying breed.
In the USA and changed to national brands, Ford and Jeep. BMW never again.
That's more than my entire car cost.
This one is for anyone with BMW knowledge. My f30 318i has a sos call failing that is annoying since it won’t allow us to see how much fuel is there or mileage etc. It goes away sometimes but always returns. What should I do?
Buy an Audi!
@@garycampbell7891 That made me chuckle.
I know someone with a 5 series had this same fault. Turned out to be a control box in the boot, can't remember exactly what but wasn't cheap but they did go to bmw for it
It sounds like the TCU unit. Get it diagnosed by an indy with ISTA-D to confirm. TCUs can be repaired by MURA CAR ACCESSORIES in Romania. DHL there and back all for less than £200 but prices have gone up a bit.
MrVanos is such cool/chilled guy
Jesus! That is an absolute wedge! I'll stick to my boring A4 Avant that costs me about £500 a year run all in.
Fuel included??
@@bwdrives yeah I run my bio diesel I make at no cost
How can you not like this video... nicely done !
Can’t believe your insurance is that much. I pay 3/5th of that for my 2020 Vantage V8 insurance…
What oil were you using? brand / weight and why
Just go to Opie Oils for Castrol 10W60 and get the filter and seal kit from BMW
The figure I was waiting for was mpg. Sadly overlooked.
Well done for being honest, I can see why you bought the car for content. In reality buying these old expensive money pits, makes no sense whatsoever. Especially with today's petrol prices, these types of cars become very unappealing, certainly not worth spending 5k on a respray or a Paint correction, just polishing a poo !
Mr Vanos is a top guy!
In Australia, you buy a HSV R8 WAGON.. around 30k Australian dollars.. 6 litre engine, 500 plus horsepower.. one pooftenth of the money to run, as this look at me v10 Shitbox..
Challenge to your team..
Find a Vauxhal Monaro..
Like the one Jeremy Clarkson famously said, turn in look out the side window.. what idiot would spend $36 thousand Australian dollars, too run a car for 3 months..
Leave it as it is, it's a really nice car don't ruin it
Some say,, the air suspension spoke to him and told him that it is 10mm less than it should be.
As they say here in Oregon, that's a bit spendy..
wow 19.000 quid for a healthy sample! 😲 awesome car, I'd love to have the wallet to own and maintain one
if only tehere was no drivetribe sticker on windows
but can it drive from a to b? so does every working car.
Suggestion: ditch the roof rails ;)
What hits me with this how little of that cost is engine specific , like how much less say a 530i touring or similar would have incurred a chunk of these same costs
Significantly less.
@@mnoovurvi paint.. coating.. service, tax a little less but not dramatically
@@Richard_Turner Why would you paint and PPF a 530 ? It's an old shitbox.
Insurance will be significantly less, fuel will be twice as better.
I run a 3L petrol BMW and is significantly less. Mine works out at £250 a month for absolutely everything.
Everything M3s hey? so you going 3.62 or 4.1 diff? ;-)
Wow, I thought this car would’ve been way more expensive to service.
Maybe it’s time to own one 😂
£18k for 3 months? Ten times what I spent for a year on my GTI including purchase price. Wow.
5000 pounds for paint? Did Rembrandt do it
That's a lot of money for a bit of fun.
Said the bishop........
Jesus C! Run, run away, as fast as you can.
F*ck the numbers mate 😂 and enjoy the car. I own a M6 V10 and it’s one of the best car. The sound of the car it’s a pure symphony 😍😍😍
wait till you have electronic issues too!
As i always say
Either have plenty of money
Or plenty of skill
But you can't have a car like this with neither of the above
the amount you spent being almost as much as you paid for it and the value has not increased…. rough
Those are some serious costs! Porsche ownership suddenly looks positively scroogilicious in comparison.
a grand a month on pentrol?
MPG?????
And here's me struggling to run my 2016 1.4 corsa 😭
It makes my C7 RS6 a bargain to run by comparison!
Cessna 172 was A LOT Cheaper to run that that! I could run 350 hours of flying time for that much in 1963 172 with a Continental 0-300 4.94L Flat 6 145hp @2700RPM. As this is a low compression engine designed to run on 80/87 AV fuel with less lead than 100LL with and Auto-Fuel STC they run better on cheap 87 Octane (R+M/2) automotive pump petrol, than $$$100LL or Premium auto petrol.
You've misspelled Receipt in your thumbnail. Don't they teach "I before E, except after C" in England? It's basic English!
It looks as though it's spelt correctly to me. Unless they have changed it since?
@@ryanwilliams6526 It was originally reciept.
Hmmm manual swap on the cards is it 😜
So basically it's a primadonna on wheels.
It says it all when mr vanos doesnt want the m5 back. Nice car but ruinously expensive to run😂
You want to see his current daily ride....sub 10's.
In fairness i love the e92 m3 coupe but it probably wouldnt be much cheaper to run!
Get the carbon plenum already TR Hamza just did his 👍🤙
Receipt*
Finally a TH-cam channel that fully discloses costs and discounts from colabs etc. So many channels just "leave a link in the description" without making people aware of what those companies are doing for free at a huge cost/loss to them
Aim is to keep you guys in the loop as much as possible 👍
check out AutoVlog too, search videos for costs.
the channel is selling you the audience to the advertisers
@@popefang yawn
Let's be clear: doing work for a TH-cam channel with _over 2 MILLION subscribers_ is an _investment._ Especially when those subscribers correlate so closely with your target market. Those other entities view this as quid pro quo - you'd have to hear from them about how much interest/sales conversion they saw after the episodes aired to understand the full picture.
5000 pounds for paint? Did Rembrandt do it
£18,594.58 Saved you 20 minutes
That’s more than some peoples yearly wage
@@Instantur it’s an M5
@@Instanturthink of how much the car was when it came out, u can buy a used Audi R8 for like 30 grand but you have to remember that the car was 100k plus when it came out, expect expensive maintenance
Thanks mate
Well if the last video didnt make it obvious enough, this is the 100% confirmation that the M5 will be getting a manual swap, and Id agree that its the best thing you could do to this car!!
Absolutely criminal they wasted the manuals on the US spec cars. Utterly insane.
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@@stotheh even in this time of this v10 many people (speak for Germany), mostly who buy these cars new! Say , why buying something slow, old Tec and uncomfortable as a manual. Why do manuals even exists?!
The amount of new buyers wich are willingly buy these type of cars with a manual seems untterly lower than in the us.
@@stotheh wasted?? They definitely got driven harder in the us than on any English road.
didnt he say in another video that they were planning on doing that?
What ever happened to that crazy narrow V-10 from that small company?
I kind of want to see prohress on the Connaught Miata as well
@@S85B50Engine YES! Thank you I couldn't remember what it was called.
That was just a tease from Drivetribe to dupe viewers into watching further videos. There is no actual V10 Miata project in the works.
The V10 MX-5 is still in development, we are having crankshaft machining issues still. My aim is to make the next update being one with a running engine. The car is restored and ready for the engine to go in 👍
@@HansDelbruck53 definitely not true 🙂
Would be interesting to see back to back dyno of old plugs vs new.
£1K per month just for petrol. Wow.
I'm so pleased you gave the real prices of what's been done, it all means nothing to the man in the street without a comparison. Great vid, entertaining and educational, just. Thanks.
Makes my W8 Passat sound like an absolute bargain to run, admittedly I haven't worked out fuel costs. I'd rather not know.
Love a W8. A rare beast indeed.
Yeah, don't do it mate lolol
With a bill of £19k, technically an insurance company would write that car off 🤣
They did didn't they because of the fire and smoke damage making this a cat C or N or something
I'd consider it a restoration on what is definitely a future (current) classic. The ongoing annual costs are pretty reasonable.
16:25 Where he actually starts to answer the question posed by the video's title
IIRC, I've inherited a random CD in every used car I bought.
and in BMWs it takes a technician and a laptop to retrieve it. You feel so happy you put your last CD in and it is trapped for the next owner.
1:09 the music sux
Has MANSCAPED got a whacker that helps spelling?
Because RECIEPT is soooo 1984
Love these videos. Watching masters at their job is wonderfull!
Mr Vanos is the V10 wizard 👌
So basically if Vanos etc is already done. It will cost you roughly 600 bucks to service and run it. MOT/tax/insurance is equivalent to any other modern car that you run. Pretty reasonable.
Video production and actual video content/delivery has gotten so much better, loving this Drivetribe! Keep it up Mike 😃
Thanks Jonathan, our whole aim over the past 12 months has been to step our game up and the production guys have taken things to a new level imo. Onwards and upwards!
new sparkplugs every 7000 miles ? hahahahahahaha. yeah. sure.
Exactly! BMW recommend 60,000 so have that if you thrash it halve it again.
Guys like this want saps to come in and ask for precautionary plug changes.
Then they don't reassemble the ignition coil cover feet properly or replace worn airbox rubber mounts because they are not in stock and why have a car stuck on a lift not earning money.
You're only 28 holy moly!
I was looking for this comment 😂
A ltr of oil evry 1500 mlz! No wonder Ive never wanted a bmw