This is one of your best videos. This video answers so many questions, even down to the pedal choices. I have a 2021 Riese & Müller Charger 3 GT Vario. Absolutely love it. I now find that I ride so much more and enjoy it so much more. These bikes are really a first or second car replacement. Thanks again! Anthony, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Such an eye to design details - the cable routing in the downtube aids maintenance access, reducing workshop time and resulting in quicker turnaround maintenance times for customer... everyone is a winner. R&M have really set a high bar in engineering with the latest bike releases for sure.
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This Curry matt color is incredible. It's bright but not too much and it's like if it has a touch of discretion in it. It blend very well with the other colors of the bike.
I have a two year old dual battery Delite Mountain and am contemplating moving to the new Delite Mountain with the single integrated battery. It is a much cleaner, more "mountain bike style" design, but most of all I like the fact that it retains the potential for dual purpose. What I mean by that is that FWIK the frame can still accept the rack(although that is not made abundantly clear here) and has a stem that can be configured for more of a touring type posture(upright) when I am not wanting to fly down the twisty trails, but instead carry a trail touring load for a great distance. I work in an eBike shop, and I can't wait to see the Chili Matt(with belt and Rohloff) in person! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for your comments! The new Delite Mountain has many significant changes and I think it’s going to extend the market for it. The Chilli Matt is my favorite color for the Delite Mountain.
Thanks Chris for traveling to Germany and bringing this video to us! This German company is sure setting the bar high for the ebike business, offering some great innovations to this mode of transportation. I would like to have seen the baby/child seats (option) for the rear carrier, which I am interested in for my great grandchildren on these and my ebike. BTW, I like your "subscribe" logo here, with the "electric cord" bike! Keep us up to date on the great new products on the exciting ebike industry, coming here to the USA!
This german man Martin speaks very good English. Thanx Martin and Chris. As always very good explanations. Love from Holland too you and keep care. I bought a Riese muller charcher this week. But e -speed 45 km.....Enviolo
Great to see the continual improvement. The Delite has changed quite a lot since I got mine February last year. I kind of miss the two tone black and white scheme but certainly in every non-subjective way it’s undeniably better. That surround for the Kiox display looks really interesting as well. I guess when I come to replace mine in a few years, it’s going to be really exciting to see how much will have improved by then.
Wish there were people who selling this product like you do in Amsterdam. Went to the local Urban bike store in Amsterdam were the seller doesn’t have any power to say hello and willing to help to find you the right product
I have spent so much time looking at your EBR reviews and your Propel reviews and really wanted to thank you for the great transfer of knowledge. I have narrowed down my choice to Riese & Muller and am now sold on why I am paying so much more money. As a heavier rider at 320 pounds its nice knowing there are options for me. I still have some learning to do but I am leaning to the Super Delite (LOVE the color) for commuting and longer rides to the beach (about 20 miles each way). I am also getting my wife a bike and I did not see an option for a low step like in prior years? Its also very hard to find a place to buy these locally in the CA market? The 2020 is the only way to go with the Gen4 Bosch CX and I would like to have these before Christmas if possible.
Thanks so much for your kind words! I’m happy the videos have been helpful. The Superdelite is a fantastic bike and it’s becoming quite popular. The Nevo, Homage and Culture are low step bikes available this year, but they don’t have the Gen 4 motor. If you shoot me an email or give me a call I think I can help guide you a bit more. I’ll be in the Long Beach shop all day today.
@@macmovieman1 Did you get the superdelite? I'm was going to buy one myself, but I saw that the maximum rider weight is about 250 pounds. With my 290 pounds I thought I would have to settle for a charger 3 wich is rated for 290 pound riders in its GH configuration.
@@Propelbikes Do you think being heavier than the bike is rated for would pose a problem or is it just R&M covering their bases? I would rather have a full suspension bike than a hard tail if possible.
Haven’t found a such informative video in German, although the company is German. So thanks. Q: Might it be possible to put stuff like raingear into the space where the upper battery is? Of course I would need to get the transport cover. Thought It’ll be cool, as I only need two batteries on weekend trips. Anyway, heading off to the dealer to order a Superdelight Rohloff. The Rohloff is very much needed here in steepy Stuttgart. My recent Bosch CX motor broke down after three years because the derailer system just couldn’t handle our super steep vinery mountains.
Wow. Didn't realize how RM solved the framesplit on the Load till I saw this video. Now I understood why they have a belt tensioner instead of splitting the frame. It's a interesting solution, I'm wondering what sort of wear and tear the tensioner will experience.
They have used a similar design for several years on the Delite and it seems to have held up really well. Tensioners with a chain tend to get worn a lot easier.
Thanks for commenting. They have always been of the mindset that form follows function and now they have more options from their partners to improve the form and function.
Merci Chris pour cette nouvelle VIDÉO. Actuellement Addict aux Bakfiets, cette pluie de nouveautés Riese&Muller risque de me faire basculer vers un load75 ou Pakster80. Encore merci pour toutes tes vidéos . Big Up Chris, Longue vie aux cargobikes, Richard - Velotafeur PARIS & CARGO BIKE ADDICT
Je vous remercie! Peut-être qu’un jour nous pourrons les faire en français bien que je pense qu’il existe aussi de bonnes vidéos en français. La charge est mon vélo cargo préféré! vive le cargobike!
why change the supercharger colour, i love the blue on my 2019 version, the battery covers are a massive improvement to include the cable routing , as for the new motor, that speaks for itself, the extra bottle holder is welcome, however one should consider mounting their own holders on the bosses , changing the lock place in my opinion sacrifices much needed space which can be utilised to mount larger items on the frame .
I think many are excited for the reintroduction of the Curry color. I like it a lot myself. Good feedback about the other mounting parts. I do think it’s possible to move those things around a bit which is nice.
Thanks! Yes, it’s still available. The main update is it’s now available with the Bosch Smartphone Hub. We have recently made a video about the Tinker. Did you see it?
Propel Electric Bikes , YES I saw your new Tinker video. Very good. But you didn’t say if that was the update for 2020, or I missed it. Sorry. Will they offer a 2020 high speed version with Rohloff and Gates belt? (Like the new 2020 Delite has). Thanks.
Gotcha! Yes, it’s pretty much unchanged for 2020. At this time we won’t see HS with a belt or a Rohloff. It’s either the Vario version with the CX motor or the HS motor with the derailleur and chain. Now you can also order it with the smartphone hub.
Sorry, did he mention the GPS tracking in the R&M bikes, with the "RX Connect Chip"? Thats a MAJOR selling point for me.. if Im going to dish out $15k, I want to be sure I can find my bike if its stolen.
I thought it was cool too. The Kendu wasn’t so popular though. It never made it to the US, but in Europe it got phased out. For compact bikes the Tinker has been much more popular.
Most touring bikes (Koga for example) have a front rack designed to carry two small panniers either side of the rack. How can this bike carry more than two panniers without such a rack?
There are some which can work with the Fox suspension and some which can be added to the SunTour one as well but it’s not as common due to the fork axle and how they mount. I think it depends on how much you want to carry. The rack is often called a low rider rack and it’s usually attached to mounting points on the rigid fork. Most suspension forks don’t have this, but you could possibly use a combination of Ubolts and a modified axle to mount it or perhaps a pair of ubolts on both sides. The trouble is you don’t want to add to much weight to adversely impact the suspension or handling.
@@Propelbikes Thanks for your reply. in long-haul bike touring it's very common to carry two on the back rack and two on the forks. For a bike costing this much I thought they may have had a better solution than an aftermarket attachment. Maybe I'm missing something here but two large bags on the back just isn't enough luggage capacity for a big trip months away from home
Is that a freewheel hub on those? or just a odd placement of 2et to first gear with a large step gearing ratio that seems similar to shimanos megarange freewheels.
I have a question; how are the iron holders called? So the bike stays on it's own? I keep looking for bike stands but I can never seem to find this exact thing. Can anybody help me?
Hello Chris and Martin, Please could i just register one negative comment i find with the Riese Müller Super Delite, also apparent in the Super Charger i had in 2018. I feel that for a brand placed at the high end of manufacturing superb premium ebikes, more attention should be given to details aesthetics. Specifically the awful frame welds which look ‘dog rough’. Surely these can be smoothed, polished and contoured to enhance the finish of the frame design?
This is intentional. The welds are stronger if they aren’t sanded. Sanded welds are inherently weaker and I think they made the right choice in this case.
I admire the German engineering, but the bikes look too bulky. They should remain what they are--bicycles with a nice look and a little of assist power. People still need to pedal. If they want to have powerful motors, that is fine, but it doesn't make sense anymore.
As they say, different strokes for different folks. They seem to have plenty of demand for their product and many happy customers so I suspect they are onto something. There are plenty of other options on the market if you want something different.
I live in a city where rush hour car traffic averages under 5 mph., & even on a non electric bike my commute is cut in half compared to driving, & i can time bike journey times to the minute, while car journey times are more variable due to traffic, I can't drive a Nissan Leaf off road or on trails. A car has added expenses - Fuel, taxes, parking. E-bikes are much more fun than city driving. especially if your stuck in a Leaf. Of course there are much cheaper e-bikes, but this is high end gear with the best available components.
Lots of people do not give the price. You Propel (sorry I do not no your name) never do. Riese & Müller is overpriced, better look at some normal Dutch e-bikes. Now France also have some nice normal priced bikes. Germany, Switzerland, they let you over pay. Really, I am not joking. Those countries are no bike countrys. Once I crossed the border Netherlands/Germany. Till the border I was driving on a bike path. The moment I crossed to germany, I drove on a walking path, people waiting for the bus on the same place I drove my bike. Crazy dangerous. And the most bikes I see on American vlogs are from countries where a bike is not something everybody rides. An e-bike must have a Bosch motor, the slowest motor they offer. A e-bike must still be close to a bike without a motor. That is my opinion.
62 years old. Just started ebicycle commuting a month ago. I learn a lot from your videos. Glad to be a subscriber.
This is one of your best videos. This video answers so many questions, even down to the pedal choices. I have a 2021 Riese & Müller Charger 3 GT Vario. Absolutely love it. I now find that I ride so much more and enjoy it so much more. These bikes are really a first or second car replacement. Thanks again! Anthony, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Thanks for this real video talking with the right guys and not the marketing guys.
Thanks! I love talking with Martin. He’s got all the good stuff!
Such an eye to design details - the cable routing in the downtube aids maintenance access, reducing workshop time and resulting in quicker turnaround maintenance times for customer... everyone is a winner. R&M have really set a high bar in engineering with the latest bike releases for sure.
They are doing an excellent job! Excited to be working with them :)
Chris, thanks for an awesome overview of the new R&M products.
Thanks for watching and for your comment :)
We hope you enjoy our future content. Let me know if you have any special requests of something you would like us to cover in more detail.
This Curry matt color is incredible. It's bright but not too much and it's like if it has a touch of discretion in it. It blend very well with the other colors of the bike.
We’re huge fans as well!
Hi Chris, just want to drop a line to say, "Great job. I enjoy the reviews."
Thank you Peter! This makes me happy! I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
I have a two year old dual battery Delite Mountain and am contemplating moving to the new Delite Mountain with the single integrated battery. It is a much cleaner, more "mountain bike style" design, but most of all I like the fact that it retains the potential for dual purpose. What I mean by that is that FWIK the frame can still accept the rack(although that is not made abundantly clear here) and has a stem that can be configured for more of a touring type posture(upright) when I am not wanting to fly down the twisty trails, but instead carry a trail touring load for a great distance. I work in an eBike shop, and I can't wait to see the Chili Matt(with belt and Rohloff) in person! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for your comments! The new Delite Mountain has many significant changes and I think it’s going to extend the market for it.
The Chilli Matt is my favorite color for the Delite Mountain.
Extremely informative as usual.
Thank you for your work.
Thanks Chris for traveling to Germany and bringing this video to us! This German company is sure setting the bar high for the ebike business, offering some great innovations to this mode of transportation. I would like to have seen the baby/child seats (option) for the rear carrier, which I am interested in for my great grandchildren on these and my ebike. BTW, I like your "subscribe" logo here, with the "electric cord" bike! Keep us up to date on the great new products on the exciting ebike industry, coming here to the USA!
Thanks Karl! I'm glad you enjoyed! I think I will make a video on child seats soon. My logo icon was designed by Claudio Limon. He does amazing work.
This german man Martin speaks very good English. Thanx Martin and Chris. As always very good explanations. Love from Holland too you and keep care. I bought a Riese muller charcher this week. But e -speed 45 km.....Enviolo
Great to see the continual improvement. The Delite has changed quite a lot since I got mine February last year. I kind of miss the two tone black and white scheme but certainly in every non-subjective way it’s undeniably better. That surround for the Kiox display looks really interesting as well.
I guess when I come to replace mine in a few years, it’s going to be really exciting to see how much will have improved by then.
Thanks for checking out our video. It’s great to hear your perspective on the new bikes. Stay tuned for more videos in the future :)
Wish there were people who selling this product like you do in Amsterdam.
Went to the local Urban bike store in Amsterdam were the seller doesn’t have any power to say hello and willing to help to find you the right product
I have spent so much time looking at your EBR reviews and your Propel reviews and really wanted to thank you for the great transfer of knowledge. I have narrowed down my choice to Riese & Muller and am now sold on why I am paying so much more money. As a heavier rider at 320 pounds its nice knowing there are options for me. I still have some learning to do but I am leaning to the Super Delite (LOVE the color) for commuting and longer rides to the beach (about 20 miles each way). I am also getting my wife a bike and I did not see an option for a low step like in prior years? Its also very hard to find a place to buy these locally in the CA market? The 2020 is the only way to go with the Gen4 Bosch CX and I would like to have these before Christmas if possible.
Thanks so much for your kind words! I’m happy the videos have been helpful. The Superdelite is a fantastic bike and it’s becoming quite popular. The Nevo, Homage and Culture are low step bikes available this year, but they don’t have the Gen 4 motor. If you shoot me an email or give me a call I think I can help guide you a bit more. I’ll be in the Long Beach shop all day today.
Propel Electric Bikes I am not really sure how to reach out and would love to drive down to Long Beach with my wife late morning to discuss the bikes.
@@macmovieman1 Did you get the superdelite? I'm was going to buy one myself, but I saw that the maximum rider weight is about 250 pounds. With my 290 pounds I thought I would have to settle for a charger 3 wich is rated for 290 pound riders in its GH configuration.
lyckokaka I held off and decided to upgrade and remodel our home. I still plan to get the Superdelite and add Fox shocks.
@@Propelbikes Do you think being heavier than the bike is rated for would pose a problem or is it just R&M covering their bases? I would rather have a full suspension bike than a hard tail if possible.
Haven’t found a such informative video in German, although the company is German. So thanks.
Q: Might it be possible to put stuff like raingear into the space where the upper battery is?
Of course I would need to get the transport cover.
Thought It’ll be cool, as I only need two batteries on weekend trips.
Anyway, heading off to the dealer to order a Superdelight Rohloff.
The Rohloff is very much needed here in steepy Stuttgart.
My recent Bosch CX motor broke down after three years because the derailer system just couldn’t handle our super steep vinery mountains.
Wow. Didn't realize how RM solved the framesplit on the Load till I saw this video. Now I understood why they have a belt tensioner instead of splitting the frame. It's a interesting solution, I'm wondering what sort of wear and tear the tensioner will experience.
They have used a similar design for several years on the Delite and it seems to have held up really well. Tensioners with a chain tend to get worn a lot easier.
Was not a fan of the looks of Riese & Müller bikes but man they have come a long way. Very nice looking
Thanks for commenting. They have always been of the mindset that form follows function and now they have more options from their partners to improve the form and function.
Merci Chris pour cette nouvelle VIDÉO.
Actuellement Addict aux Bakfiets, cette pluie de nouveautés Riese&Muller risque de me faire basculer vers un load75 ou Pakster80.
Encore merci pour toutes tes vidéos .
Big Up Chris,
Longue vie aux cargobikes,
Richard - Velotafeur
PARIS & CARGO BIKE ADDICT
Je vous remercie! Peut-être qu’un jour nous pourrons les faire en français bien que je pense qu’il existe aussi de bonnes vidéos en français. La charge est mon vélo cargo préféré!
vive le cargobike!
the curry thing ist very very nice. awesome!
I’m also a really big fan of the Currie color.
@@Propelbikes Yes but what do you coordinate it with. A Lentil helmet? A Saffron jersey?
why change the supercharger colour, i love the blue on my 2019 version, the battery covers are a massive improvement to include the cable routing , as for the new motor, that speaks for itself, the extra bottle holder is welcome, however one should consider mounting their own holders on the bosses , changing the lock place in my opinion sacrifices much needed space which can be utilised to mount larger items on the frame .
I think many are excited for the reintroduction of the Curry color. I like it a lot myself. Good feedback about the other mounting parts. I do think it’s possible to move those things around a bit which is nice.
Chris, is the TINKER still available for 2020? I hope so, and I look forward to your video about it. I just discovered your channel. Subscribed!
Thanks! Yes, it’s still available. The main update is it’s now available with the Bosch Smartphone Hub. We have recently made a video about the Tinker. Did you see it?
Propel Electric Bikes , YES I saw your new Tinker video. Very good. But you didn’t say if that was the update for 2020, or I missed it. Sorry. Will they offer a 2020 high speed version with Rohloff and Gates belt? (Like the new 2020 Delite has). Thanks.
Gotcha! Yes, it’s pretty much unchanged for 2020. At this time we won’t see HS with a belt or a Rohloff. It’s either the Vario version with the CX motor or the HS motor with the derailleur and chain. Now you can also order it with the smartphone hub.
Sorry, did he mention the GPS tracking in the R&M bikes, with the "RX Connect Chip"?
Thats a MAJOR selling point for me.. if Im going to dish out $15k, I want to be sure I can find my bike if its stolen.
Love those welds.
Whatever happened to the Kendu? That was a cool looking little bike.
I thought it was cool too. The Kendu wasn’t so popular though. It never made it to the US, but in Europe it got phased out. For compact bikes the Tinker has been much more popular.
They look great ,but they also look heavy ,what is average weight of these bikes?
Most touring bikes (Koga for example) have a front rack designed to carry two small panniers either side of the rack. How can this bike carry more than two panniers without such a rack?
There are some which can work with the Fox suspension and some which can be added to the SunTour one as well but it’s not as common due to the fork axle and how they mount. I think it depends on how much you want to carry.
The rack is often called a low rider rack and it’s usually attached to mounting points on the rigid fork. Most suspension forks don’t have this, but you could possibly use a combination of Ubolts and a modified axle to mount it or perhaps a pair of ubolts on both sides. The trouble is you don’t want to add to much weight to adversely impact the suspension or handling.
@@Propelbikes Thanks for your reply. in long-haul bike touring it's very common to carry two on the back rack and two on the forks. For a bike costing this much I thought they may have had a better solution than an aftermarket attachment. Maybe I'm missing something here but two large bags on the back just isn't enough luggage capacity for a big trip months away from home
Is that a freewheel hub on those? or just a odd placement of 2et to first gear with a large step gearing ratio that seems similar to shimanos megarange freewheels.
It’s a Sunrace cassette with a very wide range. It’s helpful when you want to do some really big climbs.
I have a question; how are the iron holders called? So the bike stays on it's own?
I keep looking for bike stands but I can never seem to find this exact thing.
Can anybody help me?
please let know the cost of these bikes ?
Argh -their designs are sooo sick!! I wish they werent so dang expensive -but you get what you pay for = cream supreme!!!
Just wondering, do any of these bikes have a throttle mode at all?
They don’t, but most people find that a throttle isn’t needed once they ride a proper pedal assist ebike.
❤ R&M
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$8000 for the red one? Holly cow! I drive an SL550 and ride a K1200 BMW, but spending $8000 for an eBike? $4000 I can convince myself but for $8k?
Yikes too much
Nice bikes
They definitely are :)
Hahaha, you got rid of court?
Hello Chris and Martin,
Please could i just register one negative comment i find with the Riese Müller Super Delite, also apparent in the Super Charger i had in 2018. I feel that for a brand placed at the high end of manufacturing superb premium ebikes, more attention should be given to details aesthetics. Specifically the awful frame welds which look ‘dog rough’. Surely these can be smoothed, polished and contoured to enhance the finish of the frame design?
This is intentional. The welds are stronger if they aren’t sanded. Sanded welds are inherently weaker and I think they made the right choice in this case.
Awesome over the top technology!! Don't let the Chinese see it lol
Where i find the silent2 review i'm buying one
We won’t be reviewing this bike as it’s not available in the US. Maybe someone else will review it.
I admire the German engineering, but the bikes look too bulky. They should remain what they are--bicycles with a nice look and a little of assist power. People still need to pedal. If they want to have powerful motors, that is fine, but it doesn't make sense anymore.
As they say, different strokes for different folks. They seem to have plenty of demand for their product and many happy customers so I suspect they are onto something. There are plenty of other options on the market if you want something different.
For this price you can buy a used Nissan Leaf.
I live in a city where rush hour car traffic averages under 5 mph., & even on a non electric bike my commute is cut in half compared to driving, & i can time bike journey times to the minute, while car journey times are more variable due to traffic, I can't drive a Nissan Leaf off road or on trails. A car has added expenses - Fuel, taxes, parking. E-bikes are much more fun than city driving. especially if your stuck in a Leaf. Of course there are much cheaper e-bikes, but this is high end gear with the best available components.
Lots of people do not give the price. You Propel (sorry I do not no your name) never do. Riese & Müller is overpriced, better look at some normal Dutch e-bikes. Now France also have some nice normal priced bikes. Germany, Switzerland, they let you over pay. Really, I am not joking. Those countries are no bike countrys. Once I crossed the border Netherlands/Germany. Till the border I was driving on a bike path. The moment I crossed to germany, I drove on a walking path, people waiting for the bus on the same place I drove my bike. Crazy dangerous. And the most bikes I see on American vlogs are from countries where a bike is not something everybody rides. An e-bike must have a Bosch motor, the slowest motor they offer. A e-bike must still be close to a bike without a motor. That is my opinion.