making an impossible ceramic sculpture
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- Thanks for stopping by! I hope this video brings you as much joy as it brings me.
You can see my first attempt here: • making an impossible p...
It's amazing to see one material transform into another, even if it takes weeks of planning and work to make it happen. This turned out even better than I thought it would.
Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:43 - Throwing a test
01:09 - Throwing first lantern
07:39 - Throwing second lantern
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you’ve just made me appreciate my (purchased) porcelain night light SO much more. it was a gift when i was little so i never thought much of it until now i actually do ceramics
Yes!! I love that delving deep into a craft can help us appreciate it so much more. 🤍🤍
one time in high school our kiln malfunctioned, melted/misshaped everyone’s pieces and turned them into a plasticky-glass-like substance. I still have a piece from that batch - it was supposed to be a mug, I jokingly call it the gravy boat now
If you don't have a kiln glazing horror story, are you even a potter? That's amazing. Did you ever figure out the malfunction? Did the kiln stay too hot for too long?
You are so good. Persistence always pays off. Pottery is a craft. Some potters turn it into art. You are an artist.
Thank you so much! I love that pottery can be both craft and art. 🤍
at what point does it become an art?
@@hairyballbastic8943 that's a matter of taste
@@JYRCeramics you could try getting some sort of a micrometer tool that could help you determine if you got the thickness right 🤷🏻♀️ it measures in millimeters 👍 it could be useful
Very beautiful pieces though 👍💕😁
Try this:
Make the base part with the gray clay, let it dry, then pour in white porcelain slip to create an inner layer. When carving afterwards, you get a color indication for when you've carved almost all the way through.
That is a brilliant idea!! Thanks for contributing it!
@@JYRCeramics I truly hope it works (can't test it here for you). If it doesn't - I've seen someone make amazing swirl vases by coning, flattening, then fluting the clay on the wheel and back-filling with a different color.
Maybe more difficult, but perhaps one can work a slab into the clay before forming the piece such that the slab ends up forming the inner wall.
Whatever you make next, I'm looking forward to it :)
Beautiful! I imagine if this becomes more popular, one day this beauty you’ve brought into the world could be a standard seen in lanterns used for festivals of light - rather than the plastic direction they’re going in, imagine how beautiful this would be adorning doorsteps ✨
Wow, what a beautiful vision!! That would be absolutely amazing.
well crikey.. that was nerve-wracking in parts but inspiring throughout.. you must have been so chuffed with the final pot :) .. its 6.30am and this was quite a start to my day.. thanks for the video.. liked and subbed :)
wow, what kind words! 🫶🏼🫶🏼 thank you for that!
Its such a triumph to finally see the end results! I'm so happy to see your dedication here.
Thank you!! I love aiming for hard things and trying again and again until I get it just right. 🤍🤍
As you know there has been a lot of work to make slip casting porcelain translucent and a really neat technique to make it even thinner than traditional slip casting is normally able to achieve is using is very tiny nylon fibres mixed into the slip. Creating a composite material almost like fibreglass, I’ve yet to try this method but there are plenty of journals and articles about it plus I was tipped off on it by a professor of ceramics at my university. I wonder if you could use that on the wheel to add strength and make the whole thing thinner so the carving is less dicy as well as lessen the warping in the kiln. I’ve not worked with porcelain much and never on the wheel (it’s not my specialty) but I do work in hand sculpture a lot and slip casting a little. So maybe if you are feeling like delving into translucence some more but don’t want to deal as much with porcelain’s melodramatic nature (I love porcelain but heavens it’s like a toddler throwing a tantrum sometimes) you might experiment with nylon or other fibres, as things like cotton burn off in the kiln unlike nylon. I also learned that that it’s much easier to achieve this translucency if you fire the porcelain unglazed. I actually find the ivory white warmth of unglazed porcelain really beautiful but it’s not for everyone and you do lose a lot of the gloss that comes with glazed porcelain admittedly. And incase my tone came off wrong I’m not trying to lecture you I just get really excited about ceramics particularly when people are working in the “path less traveled” and I feel compelled to share any knowledge I’ve pick up over the years. So if the tone comes off haughty just imagine it more like an over excited golden retriever.
Very cool work, keep making awesome things with ceramics!! It’s such an amazing and ancient technology that people really don’t appreciate enough especially when one has enough skill to really make it sing or in your case shine
Wow, thank you for the insightful, helpful, kind comment! I would actually love to try working with other porcelain/porcelain composites to see how they would affect the light and thinness of the piece. I also really want to try slip casting - this nylon slip casting you mention is fascinating. Also, love the pun. ✨🥰
I have saved this to my “art” playlist. This was absolutely beautiful. But this is the artist’s journey: There are epiphanies and breakthroughs, troughs and peaks. Never let success haunt you: Remember that those successes aren’t what makes you, but you were what made the successes.
Wow, thank you so much for those kind words! And love those thoughts about the artist's journey. 🫶🏼🫶🏼
If you decide to pursue this further, you might find water engraving to be a good option. Beautiful work so far.
Oooo! I'm unfamiliar with the technique, but it looks quite fun! I would definitely like to try it! Thank you for the suggestion! 💖
WOW! What an accomplishment! I'm so glad you didn't give up. :)
Me too! Thanks for your kind words! 🫶🏼
I know absolutely nothing about pottery and watched this enthralled like a NatGeo documentary.
Your narration and editing is great and I loved learning about this!
I loved being told as a child to achieve something similar, you put rice grains in the porcelain and that burns away leaving a transparent design.
The problem is the porcelain and the firing temperature. It doesn't sound like you have much control over thosse two factors since it is not your studio. But look up "Mutton Fat Porcelain". Porcelain doesn't have to be super thin in order to be translucent.
That porcelain looks amazing. Do you know if there's a supplier that sells that in the UK or Taiwan? I couldn't find any in my quick search. Would be interested in trying it.
@JYRCeramics You won't be able to get it unless you somehow source it from China Jingdezhen or Dehua. The artists and manufacturers mix their only porcelain with their own recipes, but generally, for the mutton fat look, they use a mixture of high Kaolin and Boron flux (or other high temp flux) ratio and fire it at cone 10+ temperatures. The flux and high temperature more or less vitrifies the porcelain to the point where the clay body acts as it's own glaze. This is what allows it to achieve the look. Rarely will a community studio allow firings that high because only porcelain and colbat can survive those types of firings. It sounds like you are using cone 6 porcelain, which is probably why you are having such a difficult time.
There are some that do advertise themselves as high translucency cone 6 porcelain, but in my experience, they are only marginally better. While your technique isn't perfect, (you can be waaay more aggressive with your trimming) the clay body and firing temp you are working with will ultimately be your limiting factor.
@@StuninRub Yeah, interesting. I think I will try to make it to Jingdezhen in the next few years so maybe I'll find a factory and ship myself some. And yes, we are firing to cone 6. But my new studio in London will fire to cone 9, so I'm excited to try some new porcelains!
The time & work you put into it proved to be well worth the effort. ❤
Is this how rice grain tea cups are made I hade a few and I loved loved loved them! Unfortunately a few boxes never made it home after it left with the moving company I’m so so so happy you made this video thank you! I loved those cups but omg I love love love this! Thank you 🙏🏻
Je crois que pour les grains de riz,on fait les trous(futurs grains),et c'est la couverte /email,qui nappera et donc bouchera tres finement.Ceci assurera la transparence.😂
Rice grain tea cups are sooooo beautiful. I'm sad with you that some didn't make it in your move. :( But I think for those, they poke the holes all the way out, then fill the small holes with transparent glaze, so slightly different.
@@JYRCeramics Could you combine these techniques? For instance, if you accidentally poke a small hole while carving, could you either 1. Fill it with glaze, or 2. Fill it with slip, depending on the size of the hole? I'm picturing backing the hole with paper, and dabbing very small drops of slip on top until you get the thickness you want. Sorta a combo of slip casting and the rice grain cup method, might make the carving stage slightly less nerve-wracking?
Cool video, thanks!
@@simontw8618 Yes! I actually did something like this in this video: th-cam.com/video/khzcNKqiBWY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uRWFvIhLTvjd9Bum. But yes, definitely possible to fix holes if I poke them!
I love pottery. Such an ancient and lasting medium to work with. I dug up and filtered a batch of natural clay from my backyard when I was a kid, and Im teaching it to my kids now. We have an outdoor firepit that I will use as a platform for our makeshift kiln once we make something we want to keep.
Wow!! That is so cool!! I love that you can just dig up clay and turn it into art. Thanks for sharing! Hope you make something you love soon!
This was beautiful. I'm glad your patience and hard work paid off. I don't think I could have this much patience and steady hands😅
Dang they really just assumed you were done like that. I'd be so mad. You have much more patience than me, and so much skill as well! It looks amazing!
They do so much for me, it's hard to get upset. And thank you so much! 🤍
It’s a beautiful piece. I like the premise of the craft.
1:23 A smash and a yell. At 2x speed, it sounds like the noise for throwing potion bottles in Minecraft.
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clay will never become glass, but you've done some pretty amazing work. 👍👌
absolutely stunning!
Absolutely stunning 😍
I happened across your video randomly and I've got to say that is some brilliant work! Beautiful and such perseverance too. Keep up the good work! ❤
Thank you so much! 🤍🤍
all of the pieces are stunning! so cool to watch your process!
Thank you so much! 🫶🏼 So glad you like them!
Stunning!!!!
Beautiful!
Fun project details, I really liked learning about your tests and the final product. You have a lot of skills to create great things!
Thank you so much for those kind words!!
Beautiful, thanks for sharing this journey with us!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching it!
WOOOO!! i was so excited to see this video in my feed. congrats on making it work, it looks lovely!!!
Hope you enjoyed it!!! 🤍🤍
Thank you for sharing your vision and thoughts on your processes. Congratulations on achieving your goal. The result is exquisite!!
thank you!!
Gorgeous!
This is so amazing 🥲
Beautiful. ❤
this is absolutely gorgeous
thank you so much! 🥰
Absolutely amazing! I love listening to your process
Thank you so much! 🥰
Beautiful! thank you for posting. I love this
Thanks for watching! 💖
Was mesmerised by the process while finishing off my crochet project at the same time. Amazing work, made me want to get back to sculpting & pottery!
I used to love knitting while watching a show or commuting, so love that you watched my video while you finished your project! 🤍
This is amazing. What a good piece of work! So detailed and softly made. Incredible. Love to watch master work.
If I had a chance I would even buy this work. This is so beautiful
Wow, thank you so much for those generous words! Really appreciate the love. 🤍
Wow, amazing! 😱🎉 incredible how you have to go by intuition alone on how thin the petals are. Awesome work 🙌🏼
Right?! If someone knows a better way, please let me know! And thank you very much!
Beautiful results! I so admire your persistence- love clay, ginkos and delicate celadon porcelains. When I was a child I remember my grandmother had some bowls with a translucent rice grain pattern that seemed extremely special and made a great impression on me. I'm thinking when you were finally able to make the clay do what you wanted, the glaze helped "hold it together". I wish I was still working with clay- I always prefer doing the types of art where I have my hands directly in contact with the materials.
Thank you so much! I love how pottery can have such generational and emotional impact.
such a great and inspiring process to watch!
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it!
Victory! Congratulations, it’s gorgeous and you are one heck of an artist. of course, I thought that if a tea light wasn’t bright enough to show through, a small LED could be the way to go. They are much brighter, and in some situations, preferable. You don’t have to worry about leaving fire unattended that way.
Yes, definitely, a small LED would work great. And if I could get the color of the LED to be warmer, that really would capture what I was trying to do here, I think. But there's just something special about a candle 🥰
im sure ur more experienced than i, but in my pottery class we used to spray pieces down and bag them in plastic if they dried too early. that way the next day u can trim wetter clay rather than bone dry
Congratulaciones to your accomplishment! Bravo!
Thank you so much! ✨
Beautiful work. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much!!
Congratulations! This is so cool
Thank you so much! 🤍
Que projeto magnífico ❤
That's beautiful!
Thank you!
That is stunning! So glad you stuck with it....failed your way to success! Kudos!
Yes!! And thank you!
Thats beautiful! :)
Incredible piece! This is the type of stuff you could do a PhD thesis on
If I were in school for ceramics, I would LOVE to do a thesis on this. Or something along the lines of clay bodies, light, and glazes.
😊😊😊 LINDO...lindo....perfeito...você é incrível! Adoro a transparência! Amei...obrigada.
Do Brasil 🇧🇷 São Paulo ❤
Muito obrigada!!
Amazing, absolutely beautiful! Congratulations, that was a hard thing to pull off.
Thank you!! ✨✨
You have a lot of patience. I would give up trying to do it behind a potter's wheel and try another way, like casting into plaster molds.
I love wheel throwing. 🥰 But I would love to play with molds in the future.
You did a great job at keeping the thickness of the porcelain even on that last one! Maybe in the future try a coil of wadding on the inside to keep the piece up high enough to allow the celadon to drip off onto the shelf, or carve a place that will catch the runoff and pool at the bottom of the lamp. That way you won't get a big flat drip at the bottom like you have in one spot. You did great though! Making your porcelain thin enough to go translucent isn't easy! Oh! Also, try Frost porcelain by Laguna if you haven't yet. It makes the job so much easier!
Thank you for those suggestions!! Will definitely consider them for the future. I really want to try Laguna Frost.
It's so good! It can also make a nice slip for casting which allows for some super thin walls of an even thickness. I made some hanging lights that way out of a golf ball mold from one of my dad's golf balls. I just used a string of LED lights to connect them to, and they are so pretty.
Anyway, that's all. :)
Ha! I have too been doing this exact same thing as I also make candles and wanted to make my own vessels that glow the images with the light 🫠
Amazing! I hope you get the results you're looking for!
How stunning! I have a little set of Chinese bowls and spoons that I found in a charity shop, and I only realised once I got them home that they have translucent dots that glow when you hold them up to the light. I don't know for sure how it was done, but I think they may be thin areas like on your piece. I knew that ceramic vitrifies at higher temperatures, but I never added up what that meant, that translucent porcelain is a kind of glass.
I think that's Rice Grain Porcelain! Such beautiful things 🤍
Kudos
Ceramic molding, slip casting will be a better way. You can make much thinner pieces.
Yes, I will definitely try that in the future!
Your pottery style and pieces are admirable. I'm not at your level in terms of pottery skills. When I make larger pieces, I always use a torch; it helps a lot to reduce the wall thickness. I look forward to more videos from you. Best regards, Bernhard from Austria"
Thank you so much! I also feel like I have a long way to go with pottery, so we're in the same boat! A torch is always super helpful and so much fun haha 🤍
Our bone china plates were damn near translucent when I was a kid.
Очень красиво!!!!
🎉 congratulations Janice 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I've only just found your channel and I've got to say it is binge worthy! New subbie! Thanks for sharing your journey so far as I'm just beginning mine; and promptly shattered my shoulder (saved my life, but that is another story 😊) so I cannot do anything major in my clay work but I am enjoying learning so much via YTU 😂
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Wow, thank you so much!! I hope your shoulder heals well and fully soon! Sending love 🫶🏼🫶🏼
That's amazing! Also, the work on that second one wasn't wasted: you could just put a string of LED lights inside of it.
That is a wonderful idea! I hadn't considered that and will definitely do it! Thanks! ✨
We have these noodle bowls from the chinese general store and they have these rice shaped translucent spots in it :3 the effects arent very large though so it might have been easier than doing what you're trying to accomplish
I love those Rice Grain Porcelain designs.
Amazing. And you could make a tool to mesure the thickness of your walls for better repeatability. 👍
That's a great idea! I never considered using calipers to measure the thickness (ones that can measure on both ends simultaneously might work). Thanks for that!
I live for this kind of experimentation to reach an idea that we had at some point. It was awesome to watch.
A comment I have to make though. I didn't notice the subtitles until 70% through the video... Then they became a glaring distraction. I think they're better left in the captions tool instead of absolutely baked into the video.
Yes, it feels so good to strive for something and then achieve it. Glad you appreciated that journey!
would it work if you d made the leaves as extremely thin as possible and then fill them with transparent glaze? so that it might make the paper thin leaves more stronger but still translucent
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the long feedback cycle must be so painful! Idk if any of these ideas would work, but figured I'd suggest them in case they end up being useful for checking thickness while you still have a chance to adjust:
1. IDK if this is the proper term, but I think they're called "inside/outside calipers"? like the calipers that kinda reach out and around before coming together again, seem like they would be perfect for measuring wall thickness (EDIT: looks like the term "yankee calipers" is used a lot for them)
2. so, a flashlight can't shine through the unfired clay, but what if you just added more power? if you got one of those terrifying 100,000 lumen flashlights, maybe u could get a faint glow, just enough to get a sense of how close you are? I'm guessing you would need to just briefly flash the light now and then so as to not heat up the workpiece
3. I guess you'd need to get pretty quick at this for this to be useful, but i wonder how accurately a handheld 3D scanner could capture a work in progress? If you can get decent accuracy, you could then cut it in half in software and measure how much thickness is left.They
These are amazing suggestions! Thank you for them! 🤍 The calipers definitely seem like they would work if I were careful while using them. The 3d scanner is interesting - are they accurate to the micrometer? That would be very fun to play with, if it were super accurate.
@@JYRCeramics no idea about 3D scanning, I see people use them in videos and that's the extent of it for me sadly. so probably only worth it if you can borrow one, get one for cheap, or talk to someone who knows more
Amazing final result! Have you looked at the mutton fat jade porcelain teaware coming out of Dehua?
I assume they make it from a mold as you mention to be able to manufacter it, but it's unglazed and very translucent to the point I can the level and color of tea in some peices.
I had not seen that! It looks really interesting! Not sure how to buy the raw porcelain, though?
I wonder if you could make a hooded lantern type piece and polish/facet the insides to direct light from a flame.
Ooo that's interesting. So more vertical panes instead of designs?
@@JYRCeramics If you could that would be epic, I was just thinking about a lantern made of clay that used the reflectiveness of the glaze to direct light. now that you mention vertical panes, I wonder if you could make some kind of zoetrope effect with the way flames dance side-to-side. You'd know better than me what is possible, I just dream. ;)
im just curious if you could test the light passage thru the porcelain with a phone light before firing if that would give you any helpful indicator of the thinnness
No, unfortunately. I talk briefly at 15:03 about why that doesn't work
@@JYRCeramics ah
It looks very like lithophane. Maybe you can mould it, but I have 0 experience into clay or porcelain. If you are interested you may look more into it :)
It does, doesn't it? Something about changing the way light shines is so cool. Love it.
Would it help at all to have a cylinder inside the jar while carving so that you are less likely to rupture while carving?
I think that might help it not warp while carving... But it would be very hard to feel the thickness so I'd be more likely to go all the way through it, I think. Great suggestion, though.
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wadding can allow for less warping
oo great suggestion. will have to try it in the future
I think you should make a dandelion pattern
That is a wonderful idea! I love flowers/leaves/nature, so that would be a great iteration.
You do not have to use enamel or glass to get the effect.
No, not at all, which is so cool.
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Thank you for using ‘penultimate’ correctly and not skunking my words. I can tell you read as a child 😉
Sure did. 😉 Always carried around a book as a kid. 🤍
Maybe you should work with Glass. Clay loves being clay, it doesn't need to be changed.
Watch out everybody, the fun police is here 🙄
I would actually love to work with glass! But it's a little sweaty for me...
@@night.owl.creations heh
Improbable* I don't think you understand what impossible means.
Beautiful!
Gorgeous!
Thank you! 😊