Could agree more on the analog sticks, definitely something I found while playing Need for Speed... Didn't show an actual calibration test in my video but I did talk about how it seems to be easier and more accurate drifting around a corner with the Xbox one controller vs. the Msi Force GC30 2!
yeah the sticks have no where near the same level of control and sensitivity as the xbox 360 or xbox one controller. The new series x and s controllers are not as good either i have found
I bought one of these for my daughters gaming PC last Xmas and she's still using it and it seems to works fine. I was going to buy a 2nd one this year for her bedroom PC but having seen your review I'll have to test her current one out first to see how it's holding up. I personally use an Xbox Elite series 2 and it's superb.
I bought one of these last year to play Elden Ring with and the main problem with this was the USB wireless receiver. It would sometimes cause drifting as soon as you turn on the gamepad and you have to turn it off/on many times before the drifting effect is gone. However, it's awesome if you're using it plugged with a cable. I've dropped it many times and it's still functioning as good as new. No deadzones and rumble effect is quite strong.
@@cldwalker312 Yeah I have played both Forza Horizon 4 and 5 with it as well as Diablo 4, Baldur's Gate 3, and Star Ocean Second Story R and it's great for those games in the sense that It's exactly what you would expect - an xbox controller for PC made by a different brand under a different name but at a cheaper price point.
@@shadowalk thank you very much for your response. i want to buy a controller but in my country xbox and ps controllers extremely expensive and this controller's price is more suitable for me. i'll probably play forza, assassins creed valhalla, rdr2 and gta 5. as far as i understand from your comment it is good for these games. just one more question, in forza 4 or 5 it is hard to rotate your car to right or left? i mean do you need to hold the joystick in one place for a long time to turn the car? if so can you adjust that sensitivity?
@@cldwalker312 The default settings and feel of the joysticks seemed fine with me for the most part for all the games I played using this controller including the Forza games so I didn't really bother with sensitivity settings or anything like that. Maybe change a button setting or two just for personal preference but that's it as far as messing with the controller settings.
IMO, this is the best controller I have used and I have 9 different controllers I own and this one for me in particular is the best and second would be the Logitech Rumblepad 2.
Had two of these recently, felt amazing in the hand and I could even deal with the stick issue found here but unfortunately both developed a slow turn on the right stick within a week. Just bought the Series contoller and havent looked back.
Mine is 3 days old and very new. I checked parameters of my GC20 and it's all good and accurate. I can even do small circles using the left joystick. The right trigger has got a tiny bit play. I checked right after watching this and I may be lucky to have bought a rare batch when it was assembled. Hopefully it's going to last but I will update this comment if something goes wrong.
I bought two MSI GC30 V2 pads, one white and the other black, and I am very satisfied. I plug it into the PC and we play games on two with my girlfriend without any calibration. You also mention that on Android you can only play on a cable, which is not true. I plug the transmitter into the android and play games wirelessly without any calibrations (Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra). What puzzles me is why in your review at 4:08 you mention that there is an OTG cable included, because neither of my two pads had OTG, and you don't show it either. There were two cables included that you show, namely USB A - Micro and USB C- Micro. In any case, to connect the transmitter to my phone I had to buy a USB C - OTG adapter. I will agree, however, that the pads should have a USC C charging input, not Micro. I also did not note any problems with the sticks.
The biggest issue I have with any analog game controller is the joy stick drift, no matter what controller i get, whether it be a Microsoft Xobox controller, a turtle beach controller, or some of those cheap $20 controller, I always get the same problem. The left stick always starts drifting after about 3 months of use....These controller should be able to take a beating, video games can be quite enraging at times and sometimes I get a little rough with my controllers. I remember the original Nintendo controller could be thrown across the house and still work like brand new. These new controllers seem to break even if dropped slightly hard. I should be able to throw an XBOX controller across the road and it wok fine, especially for the price they want for them.
I've been using this ipega wolverine for 5 years now and the joystick is still in very good condition the only problem is that the button B has a problem returning back fast
I've been using this ipega wolverine for 5 years now and the joystick is still in very good condition the only problem is that the button B has a problem returning back fast
I stick with my easysmx wireless controller wich only cost MYR80 here in Malaysia.. which has no issue and delay rather than this cost about MYR150 for wired and MYR200 for wireless..
@@alboyak1 Thats the one I have. USB-C and programmable buttons on the underside right? great controller it also has another model name on Amazon here in Europe, ESM-9110.
Interesting review Mike. Strangely playing Valorant yest my seenda keyboard failed to work wirelessly. So used my EasySMX wired but Valorant doesnt support controllers! As this is a living room PC I would love to have wireless controller but they normally £60. So on face value this would be good choice. The joystick maybe set to give fine control and more moved the bigger the screen reaction. I always struggle with this so prefer mouse for this reason. What range would this dongle have and inserting dongle onto IO of mb be workable? Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath👍
I like the analogs on this controller, It is accurate for driving like you said. I wouldnt bother using it for fps. I am just glad people are still keeping the 360 controller style, i hate the new styles and as much as i love playstation, the playstation controller is uncomfortable for me. USB-C would have been amazing though... Missed opportunity there
When MSI make a good product it can be the best product in that segment, but when they get it wrong they seem to ruin what would of been a decent product. They make good or bad products, never average 🤣
yes i am tempted to agree there. this could have been a sublime product and beat the elite on price. considering this is V2 let's hope V3 makes the necessary changes to be a real competitor
My rate of the msi controllers. The upside Really reliable when its new, fast reaction, plug and play function no drivers needed, almoust support any device that is suppose to use an controller. The downside the 20 and the 30 last max 2 years after that the material in them is weard off, the buttons need to be pressed at specifik places on the button to execute. i would reccoment anything else than this if you look for a longterm solution.
Such a shame with this game pad, might suit some people but going from your review it seems like MSI might have benefitted from a bit more R&D on this one. Thanks for the review, Mike and Kath :-)
I'd like to see you review the EasySMX wireless controller model SL-9110/ESM-9110 it has USB-C and extra programmable buttons on the underside. I've been using mine for the past 3 years, I was able to get it cheap back then but seem have gone up a bit in price probably due to the chip shortages and pandemic.
The deadzone issue was a big deal for me. It took a lot of adjustment to get used to this because I had used my Xbox 360 controller for a decade, I'm used to being able to do he tiny adjustments. I'm thinking of switching to something else.
Mike another great video I was wondering if you could make some recommendations on half decent controllers I'm running a PC with battlefield 4 currently using a mouse and keyboard but I'd like to switch over to a controller I think playing the game would be much easier thanks in advance...
Hi, Mike. I've neve been able to use one of those joysticks. They always felt too, clunky. For me it's either keyboard and mouse, or racing wheel and pedals. Nice review though, cheers.
my concern is the product for the l3 and r3 units for the dead zone are they using cheap versions or the original to what the xbox controller uses for resistance or how many resistance caps they use on the board i usually find playing warzone etc cod games they tend to lose the dead zone so i have spares(brand new) and replace them if i see the dead zone straying to far and drifts when you leave the controller so i get the expensive ones and replace them i wont be buying the msi to be honest ,as getting replacements may be difficult to get i also have ps5 controller and it has a better response .
Can you review the Easy smx wireless controller. I'm trying to find a cheap wireless controller for my PC, i have a PXN 913 and it also has bad analog stick like this one or maybe even worse, very hard to aim. So i'm trying to find alternative options, but cannot really find any controllers review videos that goes in-depth into this issue and you are seem to be the only one that actually addressing it.
Plugged in the dongle and the controllers continues to blink 4 lights, Plug it into a USB port and it continues to blink 4 red lights. The manual is completly useless. This is my 2nd one and I'm quickly loosing faith in these controllers.
Xbox Elite V2 controller for me. But for FPS, strategy and RPG's - keyboard and mouse - can't beat it. I find third-party controllers a bit hit or miss.
bought 2 of the GC30 wireless controllers ..and within 3 weeks both gamepads left thumbsticks broke...total rubbish and here I am thinking about the GC30 v2 white wireless ... I need my arse kicked... needless to say I bought the ps5 controller ... do not..I repeat do not buy these controllers.
Its sad about the sticks. Xbox One controllers are excellent but its a bit barebones for the price (compared to the ps4/ps4 controllers). Hoping to see more alternatives at a fair price.
I Have bought an official x box controller and after 6 months started to drifting. Then i bought another one and again the same. I couldn t play at all...Not even at the menu sector. So i became very angry and i broke it . Now , i cannot afford to buy another one for 80 euros here in Greece. So i ordered the msi controller. At least , it cost me 40 euros. I m waiting it to arrive so i can play again. Let s see if it worth the money... Thanks for the nice video
I absolutely hate micro USB connectors. They are so bad and don't understand why are still being used. They get loose very easily and have bad contact over time. Just go back to mini USB or update to the wonderful USB Type C.
Which controller do you recommend with the same footprint as the xbox 360? I no longer find original wired xbox360 controller to play on PC. Wireless does not work for me
@@mikesunboxing Does it have the same footprint as the xbox 360 controller? Because I think the X series controller is a little smaller compared to the 360. If you say yes, I'll take a risk
does this one have the fabric defect? like the first version that the triggers inside touched the left joystick making it fail and move when pressing it ?
can you use wireless with android like the LOGITECH f710? i use the logitech connected to a little hub where i connect the phone. can i do the same with this one ?
@@mikesunboxing actually i used a usb hub connected to my phone den i connected the bluetooth dongle on it.. i also tried connecting wired but still. I can control the screen or monitor but when im inside call of duty it wont function
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Micro usb connection. Bin it. Looks OK but better options available. Cheers Mike.
agreed
Could agree more on the analog sticks, definitely something I found while playing Need for Speed... Didn't show an actual calibration test in my video but I did talk about how it seems to be easier and more accurate drifting around a corner with the Xbox one controller vs. the Msi Force GC30 2!
yeah the sticks have no where near the same level of control and sensitivity as the xbox 360 or xbox one controller. The new series x and s controllers are not as good either i have found
@@mikesunboxing Wow that is interesting!
I bought one of these for my daughters gaming PC last Xmas and she's still using it and it seems to works fine. I was going to buy a 2nd one this year for her bedroom PC but having seen your review I'll have to test her current one out first to see how it's holding up. I personally use an Xbox Elite series 2 and it's superb.
Right stick just feels off, too much deadzone imo. It's fine for racing games but for aiming stuff it feels off and not worth it.
I bought one of these last year to play Elden Ring with and the main problem with this was the USB wireless receiver. It would sometimes cause drifting as soon as you turn on the gamepad and you have to turn it off/on many times before the drifting effect is gone. However, it's awesome if you're using it plugged with a cable. I've dropped it many times and it's still functioning as good as new. No deadzones and rumble effect is quite strong.
what about car games? is it nice to use it while playing racing/car games?
@@cldwalker312 Yeah I have played both Forza Horizon 4 and 5 with it as well as Diablo 4, Baldur's Gate 3, and Star Ocean Second Story R and it's great for those games in the sense that It's exactly what you would expect - an xbox controller for PC made by a different brand under a different name but at a cheaper price point.
@@shadowalk thank you very much for your response. i want to buy a controller but in my country xbox and ps controllers extremely expensive and this controller's price is more suitable for me. i'll probably play forza, assassins creed valhalla, rdr2 and gta 5. as far as i understand from your comment it is good for these games. just one more question, in forza 4 or 5 it is hard to rotate your car to right or left? i mean do you need to hold the joystick in one place for a long time to turn the car? if so can you adjust that sensitivity?
@@cldwalker312 The default settings and feel of the joysticks seemed fine with me for the most part for all the games I played using this controller including the Forza games so I didn't really bother with sensitivity settings or anything like that. Maybe change a button setting or two just for personal preference but that's it as far as messing with the controller settings.
@@shadowalk that's all i wanted to know thank you very much again!
IMO, this is the best controller I have used and I have 9 different controllers I own and this one for me in particular is the best and second would be the Logitech Rumblepad 2.
glad you like it, when did you get it? I am wondering if it is a newer revision?
Had two of these recently, felt amazing in the hand and I could even deal with the stick issue found here but unfortunately both developed a slow turn on the right stick within a week. Just bought the Series contoller and havent looked back.
Thanks for sharing and same here, bought a cheap series s and am using the controller
Mine is 3 days old and very new. I checked parameters of my GC20 and it's all good and accurate. I can even do small circles using the left joystick. The right trigger has got a tiny bit play. I checked right after watching this and I may be lucky to have bought a rare batch when it was assembled. Hopefully it's going to last but I will update this comment if something goes wrong.
Thanks for sharing
How is it after a month? still works well?
Still good?
how does it work now?
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I bought two MSI GC30 V2 pads, one white and the other black, and I am very satisfied. I plug it into the PC and we play games on two with my girlfriend without any calibration. You also mention that on Android you can only play on a cable, which is not true. I plug the transmitter into the android and play games wirelessly without any calibrations (Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra). What puzzles me is why in your review at 4:08 you mention that there is an OTG cable included, because neither of my two pads had OTG, and you don't show it either. There were two cables included that you show, namely USB A - Micro and USB C- Micro. In any case, to connect the transmitter to my phone I had to buy a USB C - OTG adapter. I will agree, however, that the pads should have a USC C charging input, not Micro. I also did not note any problems with the sticks.
Thanks for the info
The biggest issue I have with any analog game controller is the joy stick drift, no matter what controller i get, whether it be a Microsoft Xobox controller, a turtle beach controller, or some of those cheap $20 controller, I always get the same problem. The left stick always starts drifting after about 3 months of use....These controller should be able to take a beating, video games can be quite enraging at times and sometimes I get a little rough with my controllers. I remember the original Nintendo controller could be thrown across the house and still work like brand new. These new controllers seem to break even if dropped slightly hard. I should be able to throw an XBOX controller across the road and it wok fine, especially for the price they want for them.
exactly i want a controller i can jump up and down on during intense gaming, that wont break
I've been using this ipega wolverine for 5 years now and the joystick is still in very good condition the only problem is that the button B has a problem returning back fast
I've been using this ipega wolverine for 5 years now and the joystick is still in very good condition the only problem is that the button B has a problem returning back fast
I stick with my easysmx wireless controller wich only cost MYR80 here in Malaysia.. which has no issue and delay rather than this cost about MYR150 for wired and MYR200 for wireless..
Which model bro?
@@keklihyan EasySMX SL-9110 2.4G wireless controller
@@alboyak1 Thats the one I have. USB-C and programmable buttons on the underside right? great controller it also has another model name on Amazon here in Europe, ESM-9110.
a few people are suggesting the 9110 usb c, i'll look out for one
Interesting review Mike. Strangely playing Valorant yest my seenda keyboard failed to work wirelessly. So used my EasySMX wired but Valorant doesnt support controllers! As this is a living room PC I would love to have wireless controller but they normally £60. So on face value this would be good choice. The joystick maybe set to give fine control and more moved the bigger the screen reaction. I always struggle with this so prefer mouse for this reason. What range would this dongle have and inserting dongle onto IO of mb be workable? Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath👍
probably about 10ft is about as far as i would go before it might miss a beat now and then
thanks for you review because you included thumbstick accuration and you demo it
I like the analogs on this controller, It is accurate for driving like you said. I wouldnt bother using it for fps. I am just glad people are still keeping the 360 controller style, i hate the new styles and as much as i love playstation, the playstation controller is uncomfortable for me. USB-C would have been amazing though... Missed opportunity there
yeah i know what you mean
When MSI make a good product it can be the best product in that segment, but when they get it wrong they seem to ruin what would of been a decent product. They make good or bad products, never average 🤣
yes i am tempted to agree there. this could have been a sublime product and beat the elite on price. considering this is V2 let's hope V3 makes the necessary changes to be a real competitor
My rate of the msi controllers.
The upside
Really reliable when its new, fast reaction, plug and play function no drivers needed, almoust support any device that is suppose to use an controller.
The downside
the 20 and the 30 last max 2 years after that the material in them is weard off, the buttons need to be pressed at specifik places on the button to execute. i would reccoment anything else than this if you look for a longterm solution.
Such a shame with this game pad, might suit some people but going from your review it seems like MSI might have benefitted from a bit more R&D on this one. Thanks for the review, Mike and Kath :-)
Yeah I agree, it looks great on paper as a cheaper Xbox one controller but the sensitivity is just not to my liking
I'd like to see you review the EasySMX wireless controller model SL-9110/ESM-9110 it has USB-C and extra programmable buttons on the underside. I've been using mine for the past 3 years, I was able to get it cheap back then but seem have gone up a bit in price probably due to the chip shortages and pandemic.
I’ll keep and eye out for it on sale
The deadzone issue was a big deal for me. It took a lot of adjustment to get used to this because I had used my Xbox 360 controller for a decade, I'm used to being able to do he tiny adjustments. I'm thinking of switching to something else.
bluetooth keeps on disconnecting, and shoulder buttons sux
Mike another great video I was wondering if you could make some recommendations on half decent controllers I'm running a PC with battlefield 4 currently using a mouse and keyboard but I'd like to switch over to a controller I think playing the game would be much easier thanks in advance...
i would look at the microsoft controllers to be honest, i don't think any other brand so far has been able to recreate the feeling and longevity
OH GOD. Why dint i google the review 1st before i bought it 😔
Hi, Mike. I've neve been able to use one of those joysticks. They always felt too, clunky. For me it's either keyboard and mouse, or racing wheel and pedals. Nice review though, cheers.
Thanks for watching :-)
It didn't work for android games unfortunately just navigating the phone apps but once app is opened its doesn't work call of duty mobile
sorry to hear that
my concern is the product for the l3 and r3 units for the dead zone are they using cheap versions or the original to what the xbox controller uses for resistance or how many resistance caps they use on the board
i usually find playing warzone etc cod games they tend to lose the dead zone so i have spares(brand new) and replace them
if i see the dead zone straying to far and drifts when you leave the controller
so i get the expensive ones and replace them
i wont be buying the msi to be honest ,as getting replacements may be difficult to get
i also have ps5 controller and it has a better response .
Can you review the Easy smx wireless controller. I'm trying to find a cheap wireless controller for my PC, i have a PXN 913 and it also has bad analog stick like this one or maybe even worse, very hard to aim. So i'm trying to find alternative options, but cannot really find any controllers review videos that goes in-depth into this issue and you are seem to be the only one that actually addressing it.
i think i did already review the smx wireless
Plugged in the dongle and the controllers continues to blink 4 lights, Plug it into a USB port and it continues to blink 4 red lights. The manual is completly useless. This is my 2nd one and I'm quickly loosing faith in these controllers.
sorry to hear that
Xbox Elite V2 controller for me. But for FPS, strategy and RPG's - keyboard and mouse - can't beat it. I find third-party controllers a bit hit or miss.
i am tempted to agree there
bought 2 of the GC30 wireless controllers ..and within 3 weeks both gamepads left thumbsticks broke...total rubbish and here I am thinking about the GC30 v2 white wireless ... I need my arse kicked... needless to say I bought the ps5 controller ... do not..I repeat do not buy these controllers.
Do you think this MSI controller is better than the Redragon Harrow Pro?
never tried the redragon one sorry
Ok, thanks anyway
I literary move more than 50 CM or this thing wont be detected byt the dongle anymore. How can this controler's be so weak
yeah it isn't a good pad at all really
Its sad about the sticks. Xbox One controllers are excellent but its a bit barebones for the price (compared to the ps4/ps4 controllers). Hoping to see more alternatives at a fair price.
Xbox is the better controller hands down
Is this controller durable for years like the ps1 original dual analog controller ?
not sure, i returned mine, it wasn't very good on the thumbsticks and dead zones
I Have bought an official x box controller and after 6 months started to drifting. Then i bought another one and again the same. I couldn t play at all...Not even at the menu sector. So i became very angry and i broke it . Now , i cannot afford to buy another one for 80 euros here in Greece. So i ordered the msi controller. At least , it cost me 40 euros. I m waiting it to arrive so i can play again. Let s see if it worth the money... Thanks for the nice video
hope you get on with it better than the others
Hope you could add review after six months
how does it work now?
I absolutely hate micro USB connectors. They are so bad and don't understand why are still being used. They get loose very easily and have bad contact over time. Just go back to mini USB or update to the wonderful USB Type C.
Which controller do you recommend with the same footprint as the xbox 360? I no longer find original wired xbox360 controller to play on PC. Wireless does not work for me
a-power do a good one, we reviewed it a while ago, loads of colour options and officially licensed from Microsoft
@@mikesunboxing Does it have the same footprint as the xbox 360 controller? Because I think the X series controller is a little smaller compared to the 360. If you say yes, I'll take a risk
@@CanaldoUltimate th-cam.com/video/F9etLRWPEzY/w-d-xo.html Here's the review on it. It's like the XBOX 360 one - it's a direct copy
does this one have the fabric defect? like the first version that the triggers inside touched the left joystick making it fail and move when pressing it ?
no i don't think so
can you use wireless with android like the LOGITECH f710? i use the logitech connected to a little hub where i connect the phone. can i do the same with this one ?
not sure sorry, i sent it back otherwise i would try it
which is better, the 8bitdo ultimate xbox controller or this?
not used that one sorry but hopefully someone else can answer that
How do I pair this thing to my PC's onboard Bluetooth without using the USB transceiver?
this doesn't support BLuetooth from what i recall
@@mikesunboxing Thanks Mike. Looks like this thing is getting returned. It stutters horribly in-game from what I seen so far using this USB bit.
Is there soft wear for mapping?
not from MSI that i know of, although they might have added something to msi centre since the video was made
Would this be good for a game like rocket league? worried about input lag
No the steering dead zone is not great
dude, the original xbox controller is 75 €, this one is 40 €.
cheap for a reason, it can't compete
@@mikesunboxing everyone don t have 80 dollars to invest in a joypad. this is as expensive as a console.
I can't get it to work with my PS4 at all 😢
i don't think it does to be honest
Can't watch this. You've got some kind of pulsing in the video. It might be from auto focus being turn on, which should be turned off.
did you manage to get the information you needed okay
how can i connect this to my android phone?
you can use a OTG cable
@@mikesunboxing not wirelessly? Ok i will try.. thanks
@@baldmanadventures3059 the otg cable might allow the dongle to be used if not directly
@@mikesunboxing actually i used a usb hub connected to my phone den i connected the bluetooth dongle on it.. i also tried connecting wired but still. I can control the screen or monitor but when im inside call of duty it wont function
@@mikesunboxing it actually need a bluetooth connection
are the triggers on this analogue?
yes they are
@@mikesunboxing ooh, that's nice! would you say i should get this over the logitech f710, though?
Delay input lag?
none that i could tell
does this controller work with ps3
i don't know sorry, i have heard it will, but not tried it myself
i cant belive they are using micro usb, micro usb needs to just die like the dodo
agreed
Can i connect this to an IOS phone
no sorry
that's toosad
Can anyone confirm if this really works on PS3?
not me sorry