Thanks mate haha damn that's what I get for editing videos so late at night. I can't change it now that it's uploaded unfortunately but ill have to pin a comment explaining
Hey man, appreciate the info about the SST. I have been looking into getting an MR (I'm in the states) as I use hand controls and want something fun to drive. I have a Subi with an auto now and want something more engaging. I started looking up the SST about a year ago and there wasn't much for people talking about the them. So it's nice to hear someones perspective.
Hey mate I'm glad you have found the videos helpful as yes the SST will be a much more engaging option for you compared to the conventional automatic found in the Subaru. I hope you find the right car for you soon 😀
Great vid m8. I just got my rebuilt trans back and the delay you were talking about is completely gone! .My old clutches definitely had it especially when starting on hills or from a stop and was even worse when the car was cold. Now its instant, even just taking your foot off the brake and not putting it on the accelerator makes the car move forward. It has completely changed the way the car feels now. When you get yours done eventually you definitely wont regret it.
I'm a dealer in the states, Ralliarts are around $5-7k rn...such a steal for how much car you get. Even if you have to spend $15,000 on it to fix it, or just wanna mod it, over the life of the car, you're at $20k ish, which is the price of some crappy economy new car like a 2021 1.2L Kia forte or Nissan Sentra.
Honestly really good video, I've been thinking about buying a Ralliart and after this I've got a better understanding of what I'm getting into. Thanks man
My neighbors had the same attitude with the SST (Automatic), until I put them in the Ralliart and stepped on it. Man did their opinion changed in a second. Honestly I've had a lot of cars in my time, swore by manuals, but man I have never had as much fun in any previous car as I do in my Ralliart SST. The 6th gear is a must for highway driving when you've build up your car, mine is loud, drop it into 6th up the highway and it's silent cruising. Wouldn't even consider swapping the SST for a manual since owning one.
Haha that's awesome that you took your neighbours out and changed their mind, I did the same recently with a workmate who has a supercharged v8 falcon and he is worried his almost 600hp car would lose to my almost 400hp car
Best combination ever would be a Sportback EVO X SST. Proud owner of a Sportback RA here. I love the car! Tried Mercedes C/E Class, BMW M Series, Audi A4/6, nothing really comes even close to the great Mitsu. The interface is as straightforward as possible, the car is otherworldly reliable, practical, fun to drive. Mods are really easy to implement, and the aftermarket is huge. Being able to fold the rear seats and the huge trunk space makes it the perfect travel car, or daily car. And I find the style and rear visibility better than the sedan. If you're going to get a Ralliart Sedan, save more money and buy the EVO. The EVO platform is fantastic, wider, much better suspension, lighter, S-AWC, factory fixed calipers, overall a much better car. What made me chose the Sportback was really the rear end design that favors practicality. Invest at least 15K in it, for better brakes, suspension, rims, and engine upgrades, it will be the best car ever. The SST gearbox is amazing, I know we've heard a lot of people complaining about the plastic fork that fails, but that only happens with people that either overheat the gearbox or don't change the fluid often enough. The SST is bulletproof if you take good care of it: meaning change the fluid as often as possible, NEVER overheat it (if you plan to race it, install a better cooling system, like a bigger radiator and oil pan). No manual car can shift as fast as the SST hydraulic actuators, or even in manual mode. I've driven the Porsche Cayman with the PDK, and our SST shifts just like it. The advantages of the Cayman is the low weight and center of gravity, which makes it a monster on the track. But just like Jackson said, the shift speed is just stupid fast, nothing beats that.
Yeah the manuals do hold their prices better and will probably continue to over the next few years, I'd still prefer the SST to own though even if it means losing more money
Hey mate, new subscriber from Across the ditch here - love the Ralliart videos, they were a massive help in me making a decision about my first car - i’ve just decided today to pickup a ralliart Sportback and your videos were a huge help! Thankfully it’s just had its transmission computer recently replaced entirely too 😁
So as someone who has experienced the SST Ralliart and the Evo X personally: is the Evox worth twice the price second hand, with twice the mileage? Obviously the EvoX is the superior machine to the Ralliart. But I’m assuming that lower mileage (and thus hopefully less mechanical problems) lower insurance, and considerably less money. Makes the Ralliart better value for money? Obviously *I Want an EvoX* but I’m still going with the Ralliart as the better option. Suppose my question boils down to: with everything considered… value for money… is the EvoX That Much Better than the Ralliart?
So we went from having an Evo and Ralliart to 2x Evos which kind of answers the question as both my wife and I felt the price difference was well worth it. It really comes down to your, budget and what you want to do with the car
Id also highly recommend anyone buying a ralliart or mr, to instantly change or have someone reputable change the sst fluid, t case and rear dif fluids. When i bought my ralliart, i looked at its service records, our local mitsubishi dealership did the 60k maintance including changing fluids, however they did not use the correct amount or correct fluids cuz they werent used to this car, they did everything according to base lancer spec, reaking havoc on the sst and the t case. I thought i was going to need a new sst til i changed the fluids, now it runs amazing.
@@vertio7 changing the fluid to the factory sst fluid and correct amount of fluid made it feel so much better. Ive never ridden in another sst vehicle so i cant compare it to another but it feels like i think it should now. No issues, no complaints anymore. I even just did a 2nd change as ive owned it for 2 and a half years now and used bg 3193 sst fluid since bg is local to me and i got 3 gallons (12qts) as thats the quantity its sold in, for only $150 and it runs just like factory fluid and still feels amazing
Launch control is easy enough to type out. Step 1. Put vehicle into manual shift mode by flicking the stick over from drive. Step 2. Press and hold the traction button til it turns off. Step 3. Put shift mode into s-sport by pushing the button up, then push it up again and hold it. Step 4. Step the brake to the floor and hold it. Step 5. Press gas to floor. Step 6. Release brake and off you go! DO NOT HOLD IT VERY LONG OR YOU WILL OVERHEAT YOUR SST!!!
Yeah that all sounds familiar, don't you have to have ASC completely off too? I have the sparkcut launch control on mine now so its as easy as pressing brake then accelerate and off you go
Personally in dry conditions i always have traction off, in manual mode, and s-sport, so all i have to do at any moment is brake and gas and i launch, so im always ready
As a manual 2016 Mitsubishi Lancer GT owner, all I want to say is dont make the same mistake I did. Be patient. Wait until you can buy or lease an EVO. Or else youll be stuck in a lancer :(
Yeah you have to be going around 5kph so rolling out of a driveway you can do it but as soon as you accelerate to any speed you are stuck in sport until you come to a near stop again
Im not sure if youre aware, you must be, being the enthusiast you are, but there is an upgraded flash going around that you can change to ssport whilst driving. Among other updates, its worth checking out. Its through akracing too (im in Caboolture) please please, where do i go to join the cruises? Clubcj hasnt been up for years for us cj lovers. I had an es since 2010 and just got a ralliart.
Hi yes I made a video on it using one of AKs development cars when it was first getting released. Not really planning on holding anymore meets for a while kind of taking a break after 4 or so years of hosting them
I wouldn't say they're rare as there's a heap of them around where I live but I think the owners possibly hold onto them longer so there are less for sale usually
Wouldn't buy a sst lancer if you plan on keeping it stock and don't want to spend much money as chances are you are going to need to build the sst. Great cars I love the SST, but only purchase if you plan on making more power and or re building and upgrading SST/Clutches. My Ralliart is currently in for a full rebuild with 10 plate clutch packs, set me back $8.5k
Yeah It's definitely something people need to be aware of what the costs can be. If people find one with an already recently rebuilt sst then I always reccomend they go for it
Had a manual and 2 sst's I'd have sst over the boring 5 speed all day long like anything it can break lol the manual + & - and 3 sst modes are brilliant even still in 2021.
@@JacksonStrain also as well the 5 speed revs too high and highway drone noise Mitsubishi should have fitted their 6 speed box as in the last of the evo 9's.
Yeah I only jusy noticed they had gone up which was weird as we only just picked up this red MR for cheap and it seems like now we could sell it for a much higher price.. not that we would as it's not going anywhere. Whether they're actually selling for these crazy prices will be interesting to see though
@@JacksonStrain I was going to get an EVO X back in September, but can't decide between the manual or SST and was looking at the 2013+ models or Final edition but the prices for one under 50k km were up in high $40k to $50k already and there weren't many to choose from. And then Toyota announced the $39k DA for the GR Yaris and I went with that instead, still want an EVO X tho
Cheaper and fun id choose RA, Also for the cost of a RA Throw on the X Turbo and Tune and theres you're evo. Only main difference is Body width, Suspension and a few other small bits
Yeah very easy to spend the few thousand dollars and change the RA to all evo parts. I did make a video recently right before I sold our Ralliart driving both back to back and talking about some of the differences which you might enjoy
@@JacksonStrain Seen it lol, Ralliarts go from 8-10k in my area, Spent about $7500 on Mine Private and spent an Extra 3-4k and now its tuned at 400hp. Or spend the 15-25k on an Evo with an SST and upgrade that more. Though Evos with SST are more taken care of then Ralliarts. Either Kozmic or SJL deal best with them idk who you had work with you'res
@@InfinitiLuxurys most second hand Evolutions have had the absolute curd thrashed out of them...wouldnt ever buy a second hand performance car...i bought my Ralliart brand new (special order)...the dealer actually gave me an lancer evolution for a weekend and i chose a Ralliart over an ego.
Another con that we can probably add to the list, would be poor fuel economy on these evo/ ralliart. My ralliart runs really rich i have gone through few basic mods and to performance shop but they said it is what it is.. any suggestions would be appreciated bro! BTW love your videos❤
A good tune actually improved fuel economy on mine when I went from stock. But they do have a small fuel tank and aren't the best on fuel so it's something that is just part of owning one sadly
@@JacksonStrain i have a drop in air filter with AEM intake box, EvoX stock BPV, Borla catback exhaust and upgraded upper intercooler pipes and sadly i am only getting 200kms a tank on normal mode in city. Now i bought expreme Tomei downpipe, thinking about putting it on with bigger intercooler and then get it tuned. Do u think it would improve anything? Thanks for your response tho! M sure your videos help alot people out here who are looking to learn more about this platform
@@harshdeepsingh7595 hmm that's definitely low as I could get 450km to a tank with mostly motorway driving on mine when it was tuned. A tune will 100% help as it did with mine has it already been tuned for the current mods?
@@JacksonStrain no I haven’t done any tuning yet and there is no way i guess if i want to confirm if it was tuned in the past. And i’ve been keeping all the services upto date so i can stay on top of the maintenance
I found your vids because I'm looking at a ralliart. Was there a limited production of ralliarts? I'm looking at a 2011 with every factory option & it has Evo MR badge on left rear, Mitsubishi motors Evolution ralliart badge on glovebox & build number 38 of 500.
Hey mate, there wasn't a limited run in Australia as they were made the entire time the Evo was made. The one you're looking at might be a dealer special or it could have been a limited amount built for your country?
Yeah I'd say the owner has put those badges on it, it does look nice and well optioned. The evolution Mr badge definitely wouldn't have come from factory but does look like a good buy especially if you could talk them down a few thousand dollars from the asking price
The only limited run from a dealership brand new was a Ralliart TMR wich was done by TMR in Melb...but...Mitsu put a stop ro it because the Ralliarts were performing to close to an evo. You ordered it from a dealership then it went to TMR To have the modifications fitted then you picked it up from the dealership...it still carried full mitsu warranty....ive got all the deatails for the TMRs somewhere....ps: they also did a Bathurst edition lancer evolution. TMR also imported the Lancer Evolution RS wich you could buy brand new from them for about $35'000 and run it on rally rego...TMR was/is like a branch of Gibson motorsport/racing.
I’ve got a bugeye wrx that I’m building wide body etc and abit of work done I’m planning to get a evo 8 or 9 but I’m growing fond of the evo x also but should I get a evo X manual or evo X sst? Or should I get a Ralliart there’s a 30k difference
I'd suggest driving an SST and preferably one that's been rebuilt to get the best idea of how good it can be. I prefer the SST personally and the Evo X version.. but in saying that the Ralliart is also a great choice just doesn't have some of the great parts and handling that help make the Evo X special
so I know this video is over a year old (so you might not see this) what would be the best option for a daily driver that does get pushed sometimes on curvy roads? if context helps too im a college student
I mean I've dailied mine for 8 years now and loved it, as long as you can afford to properly maintain it and look after it the way you drive I definitely reccomend one
Can you do a video on changing your headlight bulb? I can’t seem to find a video based around that task. Did both of your EVO X come with the GSR rear spoiler?
Hey mate yeah I can do that as I'm planning on changing the bulbs in my car soon, its different for the HIDs and halogens though as the HIDs are a bit more involved to change
@@za.ma3306 haha yeah I usually take the lights out if replacing bulbs as I find it easier. All Evo tens come with a wing in Australia and there was no option for no wing
@@JacksonStrain I wish that was the case here in America. Stock GSR wings straight from the dealership cost ~$2400. That’s crazy! I can’t find them anywhere. eBay wings are too sketchy.
Thanks mate, I haven't done a relocation on either of them and haven't really looked into it to he honest. I'm not sure what the reason for it is so ill have to do some research
@@JacksonStrain hehe because in Australia is allways sunny 🌞 weather ;) Have a look on some vids from " Devin Niemela " or some other owners where their Evos are exposed on real harsh weather -> strong winter etc.
Jackson I have a question I'm going to be buying a Evo 10 that's auto (I have cerebral Palsy so I can't drive manual) can I use S-sport mode in auto transmission
Hey mate, yes you can the only issue is that S-Sport will hold the gear all the way at 6krpm at all times so is best to use the paddles to upshift. I made a video showing the way the car drives in each mode for both auto and manual mode so you should check that one out
It's hard to say as I don't know the pricing for the U.S market, it seems a little high to me as I usually hear of cars being so much cheaper over there
So i’m looking at a 2011 Ralliart with the SST. Has 185,000km. Should i be worried about the transmission having issues?? I will get a full service done on it as soon as possible when i get it. Thanks!:)
It's getting up there in kms so at some stage it's likely to need new clutches and shift fork possibly too. If it's been looked after it may last a few years yet but be prepared to need to have some work done (my suggestion is always to buy one that someone else has spent the money on a rebuild already) but other than that yes do a service and teach in as soon as you buy it
@@JacksonStrain Thank you for the reply! Maintenance has been done regularly on the transmission, so oil and filter. Has not been rebuilt but the lady says it does not slip. But i will make sure i test drive it. And if it’s good i’ll make sure to always run it in S-Sport. You’re video help a lot as well!
@@JacksonStrainI'm looking at one with 58k miles. I'm assuming the trans should be fine it shifted good i think. I drove 3 ralliarts and they all shift different.
Join any Evo group on Facebook and ask about the SST. You get so many people commenting to say they're cheap, unreliable, can't handle power, they had a friend who kept breaking theirs ect ect This is I mean by horror stories and people who have only heard these stories repeat them to others over and over leading new owners or potential owners worried that the car is a money pit
@@JacksonStrain SST WAS MADE BY GETRAG one of the most advanced transmissions companies in the world Obviously it was there first dual clutch so obviously things can be improved in the after market But lots of people forget the 6sp in the supra RZ is by getrag and I believe the 32/33/34 GTRs as well Dual clutches like all cars with clutches need to be replaced true….. but that just comes with the territory Unfortunately people don’t have hands on experience Here’s the major issue with the car community They think if a car can’t make 550-650 WHEEL HP on stock internal etc it’s not worthy LOL They don’t understand how unusable that amount of power is in real world streets 2 obviously the more power the more strain…….. I guarantee majority of people who complain never driven a high HP car and have no idea how dangerous it is first of all and how unusable it can be in majority of applications
@@chloespencer8632 yep this is all true and exactly why I made this and countless other videos talking about the SST and how much I love it. As the more people that see them and hear positive things the less they listen to all the negatives other people say. The main thing I like people to understand is that it's more expensive to repair and maintain than a manual or conventional auto box so I don't want people to get a bad experience when buying one with worn clutches then getting a repair bill they can't afford and didn't expect
@@JacksonStrain there’s a few people in America with 250000km on there X only replacing the fluid regularly and the clutches themselves twice I think It’s the same BS they say about the 08-09 35GTRS there transmissions are weak…… here’s what they don’t tell you Those transmissions broke coz of how many launches people did with them and it was designed to launch every other day It’s always miss information Just like 4g vs 4b The 4b is a better engine in every way expect it’s a open deck and has alloy bottom end…. But in stock forum it’s a lighter more efficient more powerful-more reliable motor with timing chain etc etc Just more miss information Then they call the X not a real Evo But totally accept the 35 gtr as a real gtr even tho it’s a dual clutch and has a V6 from the VQ family not I6 from RB lol Sorry for the rant Keep up the amazing content I’m on Perth btw we should do a video together Nvm your not in Perth 😂
Hey Nick the Ralliart doesn't come with S-Sport mode but can be easily flashed on by a tuner or even remotely if you want to pay someone and let do it via your laptop. Our Ralliart which we recently sold had it flashed on and it's the mode we always used when driving
Not this old "myth" again geez...the sst is a strong box and there are ones out there with over 300'000kms on them and no fault...but if you increase horsepower on the motor as with manual box's you need to look at changing clutch's...simple! People will say all sorts of things about tech they no nothing about...and its mainly die hard manual transmission and subaru fan bois that will trash twin clutch box's...its like anything...if you look after it ...it will be fine
As I said the amount of messages I get asking about SST and potential problems is why I decided to make this video. I decided I would list potential problems as a lot of people do get them being that the cars can be 12 years old now, and the most vocal are people who have had problems. As I said in the video also I've had zero issues with either of mine and am prepared to replace clutches as after 180,000kms I'd expect them to need replacing eventually.
I 💯 agree with this comment and if your a true die hard fan that bags on the evo x and ralliarts, then your not that true die hard fan that you claim to be. Go join the commo gang if you cant enjoy a pure rally icon. #norespect
@@locsautovlog8940 thanks bro, yeah both are a lot of fun so you really you can't go wrong. I'd love to see a video on your channel of you trying out an MR though
@@PR1NCETD0T GSR isn't more fun more fun in my opinion.. launching harder, accelerating faster, holding full boost while shifting and heating cars with far more horsepower is more fun to me. GSR isn't really more reliable at all, I've had my SST Evo for over 8 years and I had a slipping clutch pack after 7 years which I replaced, a GSR would have also had to replace a clutch in that time too so really mine has been as reliable as manual.
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Hey mate, great video
Just saw the km to miles conversion and it seems like you have done it the other way around
Might want to fix that :)
Thanks mate haha damn that's what I get for editing videos so late at night. I can't change it now that it's uploaded unfortunately but ill have to pin a comment explaining
@@JacksonStrain Glad to help! Also looking forward to see the SST Teach In Video! Mine is in need of one :)
Yeah I'll definitely make one once I do my next teach in
"I'm not expert" *all of us coming here listening to every word he says like a god👁👄👁
Haha
Can confirm, had manual all my life now I have Evo X Mr and it's amazing, fun wouldn't go back
Great to hear it's not just me then as thats the same situation for me
Hey man, appreciate the info about the SST. I have been looking into getting an MR (I'm in the states) as I use hand controls and want something fun to drive. I have a Subi with an auto now and want something more engaging. I started looking up the SST about a year ago and there wasn't much for people talking about the them. So it's nice to hear someones perspective.
Hey mate I'm glad you have found the videos helpful as yes the SST will be a much more engaging option for you compared to the conventional automatic found in the Subaru.
I hope you find the right car for you soon 😀
Great vid m8. I just got my rebuilt trans back and the delay you were talking about is completely gone! .My old clutches definitely had it especially when starting on hills or from a stop and was even worse when the car was cold. Now its instant, even just taking your foot off the brake and not putting it on the accelerator makes the car move forward.
It has completely changed the way the car feels now. When you get yours done eventually you definitely wont regret it.
Ohh that's great to hear and makes me want to get mine even quicker now
I'm a dealer in the states, Ralliarts are around $5-7k rn...such a steal for how much car you get. Even if you have to spend $15,000 on it to fix it, or just wanna mod it, over the life of the car, you're at $20k ish, which is the price of some crappy economy new car like a 2021 1.2L Kia forte or Nissan Sentra.
Wow that is crazy cheap for the amount of car you are getting
Honestly really good video, I've been thinking about buying a Ralliart and after this I've got a better understanding of what I'm getting into. Thanks man
Thanks mate glad you found it useful
My neighbors had the same attitude with the SST (Automatic), until I put them in the Ralliart and stepped on it.
Man did their opinion changed in a second.
Honestly I've had a lot of cars in my time, swore by manuals, but man I have never had as much fun in any previous car as I do in my Ralliart SST.
The 6th gear is a must for highway driving when you've build up your car, mine is loud, drop it into 6th up the highway and it's silent cruising.
Wouldn't even consider swapping the SST for a manual since owning one.
Haha that's awesome that you took your neighbours out and changed their mind, I did the same recently with a workmate who has a supercharged v8 falcon and he is worried his almost 600hp car would lose to my almost 400hp car
@@JacksonStrain You'll win off the mark for sure, that's all that matters 🤣
Best combination ever would be a Sportback EVO X SST. Proud owner of a Sportback RA here. I love the car! Tried Mercedes C/E Class, BMW M Series, Audi A4/6, nothing really comes even close to the great Mitsu. The interface is as straightforward as possible, the car is otherworldly reliable, practical, fun to drive. Mods are really easy to implement, and the aftermarket is huge. Being able to fold the rear seats and the huge trunk space makes it the perfect travel car, or daily car. And I find the style and rear visibility better than the sedan. If you're going to get a Ralliart Sedan, save more money and buy the EVO. The EVO platform is fantastic, wider, much better suspension, lighter, S-AWC, factory fixed calipers, overall a much better car. What made me chose the Sportback was really the rear end design that favors practicality. Invest at least 15K in it, for better brakes, suspension, rims, and engine upgrades, it will be the best car ever. The SST gearbox is amazing, I know we've heard a lot of people complaining about the plastic fork that fails, but that only happens with people that either overheat the gearbox or don't change the fluid often enough. The SST is bulletproof if you take good care of it: meaning change the fluid as often as possible, NEVER overheat it (if you plan to race it, install a better cooling system, like a bigger radiator and oil pan). No manual car can shift as fast as the SST hydraulic actuators, or even in manual mode. I've driven the Porsche Cayman with the PDK, and our SST shifts just like it. The advantages of the Cayman is the low weight and center of gravity, which makes it a monster on the track. But just like Jackson said, the shift speed is just stupid fast, nothing beats that.
Great write up and handy info,
Thanks Tiago and your RA sounds like a perfect daily
Just a small correction, in miles, you need to do your SST service somewhere between 6000-19000 miles.
Yeah I seem to have converted the kms to miles the wrong way haha, that's what I get for editing videos at 2am and 🤦🏻♂️
Buy a manual if you can !!
They hold their value much better .
The SST is a very fun gearbox to have .
Yeah the manuals do hold their prices better and will probably continue to over the next few years, I'd still prefer the SST to own though even if it means losing more money
I disagree… in general
Autos are always worth more.
With the Evo gsr, is the exception.
In time I think the sst will be even more revered.
Hey mate, new subscriber from
Across the ditch here - love the Ralliart videos, they were a massive help in me making a decision about my first car - i’ve just decided today to pickup a ralliart Sportback and your videos were a huge help!
Thankfully it’s just had its transmission computer recently replaced entirely too 😁
Hey mate, congrats on the new car and that's awesome glad the videos were helpful 😁
So as someone who has experienced the SST Ralliart and the Evo X personally: is the Evox worth twice the price second hand, with twice the mileage? Obviously the EvoX is the superior machine to the Ralliart. But I’m assuming that lower mileage (and thus hopefully less mechanical problems) lower insurance, and considerably less money. Makes the Ralliart better value for money?
Obviously *I Want an EvoX* but I’m still going with the Ralliart as the better option.
Suppose my question boils down to: with everything considered… value for money… is the EvoX That Much Better than the Ralliart?
So we went from having an Evo and Ralliart to 2x Evos which kind of answers the question as both my wife and I felt the price difference was well worth it.
It really comes down to your, budget and what you want to do with the car
Id also highly recommend anyone buying a ralliart or mr, to instantly change or have someone reputable change the sst fluid, t case and rear dif fluids. When i bought my ralliart, i looked at its service records, our local mitsubishi dealership did the 60k maintance including changing fluids, however they did not use the correct amount or correct fluids cuz they werent used to this car, they did everything according to base lancer spec, reaking havoc on the sst and the t case. I thought i was going to need a new sst til i changed the fluids, now it runs amazing.
Yep definitely a must do as soon as you buy any SST car
Does it still run the same as when you first bought it and changed the sst fluid??
@@vertio7 changing the fluid to the factory sst fluid and correct amount of fluid made it feel so much better. Ive never ridden in another sst vehicle so i cant compare it to another but it feels like i think it should now. No issues, no complaints anymore. I even just did a 2nd change as ive owned it for 2 and a half years now and used bg 3193 sst fluid since bg is local to me and i got 3 gallons (12qts) as thats the quantity its sold in, for only $150 and it runs just like factory fluid and still feels amazing
@@joeschmoe5009 awesome! How many kms were on it when you bought it VS. now?
@@vertio7 im in u.s. so it had around 60,000 miles, and im close to 90,000 now
Launch control is easy enough to type out.
Step 1. Put vehicle into manual shift mode by flicking the stick over from drive.
Step 2. Press and hold the traction button til it turns off.
Step 3. Put shift mode into s-sport by pushing the button up, then push it up again and hold it.
Step 4. Step the brake to the floor and hold it.
Step 5. Press gas to floor.
Step 6. Release brake and off you go!
DO NOT HOLD IT VERY LONG OR YOU WILL OVERHEAT YOUR SST!!!
Yeah that all sounds familiar, don't you have to have ASC completely off too?
I have the sparkcut launch control on mine now so its as easy as pressing brake then accelerate and off you go
@@JacksonStrain asc is what i mean by traction
Personally in dry conditions i always have traction off, in manual mode, and s-sport, so all i have to do at any moment is brake and gas and i launch, so im always ready
@@joeschmoe5009 ahh yep haha must have missed that part
As a manual 2016 Mitsubishi Lancer GT owner, all I want to say is dont make the same mistake I did. Be patient. Wait until you can buy or lease an EVO. Or else youll be stuck in a lancer :(
Hopefully you can upgrade to a Ralliart or Evo soon
You can go to S-Sport even when in motion, you just can't be going fast or on the throttle I believe.
Yeah you have to be going around 5kph so rolling out of a driveway you can do it but as soon as you accelerate to any speed you are stuck in sport until you come to a near stop again
I would definitely havr to agree,if the Ralliart came in a manual aswell I would still choose the SST transmission everytime 😏
I'm right with you on that, so much fun to drive
Im not sure if youre aware, you must be, being the enthusiast you are, but there is an upgraded flash going around that you can change to ssport whilst driving. Among other updates, its worth checking out. Its through akracing too (im in Caboolture) please please, where do i go to join the cruises? Clubcj hasnt been up for years for us cj lovers. I had an es since 2010 and just got a ralliart.
Hi yes I made a video on it using one of AKs development cars when it was first getting released.
Not really planning on holding anymore meets for a while kind of taking a break after 4 or so years of hosting them
by just looking at your evo makes me wanna get the full oem aero kit. getting bored with the varis v2 kit now on mine 😂
Haha really, I love the varis kit but yeah the Aero kit does suit the lines of the car well
@@JacksonStrain i couldn’t agree less
GSR Manuals are so rare to come across in Australia.
I wouldn't say they're rare as there's a heap of them around where I live but I think the owners possibly hold onto them longer so there are less for sale usually
@@JacksonStrain Yeah sorry that's what I meant essentially. I think I've only seen one up there.
Wouldn't buy a sst lancer if you plan on keeping it stock and don't want to spend much money as chances are you are going to need to build the sst. Great cars I love the SST, but only purchase if you plan on making more power and or re building and upgrading SST/Clutches. My Ralliart is currently in for a full rebuild with 10 plate clutch packs, set me back $8.5k
Yeah It's definitely something people need to be aware of what the costs can be. If people find one with an already recently rebuilt sst then I always reccomend they go for it
Sucks about you having to rebuild yours but atleast you know you will have years of problem free driving after
@@JacksonStrain yeah for sure
Had a manual and 2 sst's I'd have sst over the boring 5 speed all day long like anything it can break lol the manual + & - and 3 sst modes are brilliant even still in 2021.
Completely agree except I never owned the 5 speed so good to hear from your perspective too
@@JacksonStrain also as well the 5 speed revs too high and highway drone noise Mitsubishi should have fitted their 6 speed box as in the last of the evo 9's.
Whats wrong with the EVO X prices in Australia right now, couple months ago they were still 30k-50ks now they are 60K+
Yeah I only jusy noticed they had gone up which was weird as we only just picked up this red MR for cheap and it seems like now we could sell it for a much higher price.. not that we would as it's not going anywhere.
Whether they're actually selling for these crazy prices will be interesting to see though
@@JacksonStrain I was going to get an EVO X back in September, but can't decide between the manual or SST and was looking at the 2013+ models or Final edition but the prices for one under 50k km were up in high $40k to $50k already and there weren't many to choose from. And then Toyota announced the $39k DA for the GR Yaris and I went with that instead, still want an EVO X tho
@@RaphaelYC ohh yep they will go back down but for now you can enjoy the GR as you were one of the lucky ones to get that introductory price.
Cheaper and fun id choose RA, Also for the cost of a RA Throw on the X Turbo and Tune and theres you're evo. Only main difference is Body width, Suspension and a few other small bits
Yeah very easy to spend the few thousand dollars and change the RA to all evo parts.
I did make a video recently right before I sold our Ralliart driving both back to back and talking about some of the differences which you might enjoy
@@JacksonStrain Seen it lol, Ralliarts go from 8-10k in my area, Spent about $7500 on Mine Private and spent an Extra 3-4k and now its tuned at 400hp. Or spend the 15-25k on an Evo with an SST and upgrade that more. Though Evos with SST are more taken care of then Ralliarts. Either Kozmic or SJL deal best with them idk who you had work with you'res
Its more Ego than Evo
@@justaname1862 Lol yupp, Ego is gone when a RA blows by
@@InfinitiLuxurys most second hand Evolutions have had the absolute curd thrashed out of them...wouldnt ever buy a second hand performance car...i bought my Ralliart brand new (special order)...the dealer actually gave me an lancer evolution for a weekend and i chose a Ralliart over an ego.
Love the information
Thanks mate
Another con that we can probably add to the list, would be poor fuel economy on these evo/ ralliart. My ralliart runs really rich i have gone through few basic mods and to performance shop but they said it is what it is.. any suggestions would be appreciated bro! BTW love your videos❤
A good tune actually improved fuel economy on mine when I went from stock.
But they do have a small fuel tank and aren't the best on fuel so it's something that is just part of owning one sadly
@@JacksonStrain i have a drop in air filter with AEM intake box, EvoX stock BPV, Borla catback exhaust and upgraded upper intercooler pipes and sadly i am only getting 200kms a tank on normal mode in city. Now i bought expreme Tomei downpipe, thinking about putting it on with bigger intercooler and then get it tuned. Do u think it would improve anything? Thanks for your response tho! M sure your videos help alot people out here who are looking to learn more about this platform
@@harshdeepsingh7595 hmm that's definitely low as I could get 450km to a tank with mostly motorway driving on mine when it was tuned.
A tune will 100% help as it did with mine has it already been tuned for the current mods?
@@JacksonStrain no I haven’t done any tuning yet and there is no way i guess if i want to confirm if it was tuned in the past. And i’ve been keeping all the services upto date so i can stay on top of the maintenance
@@harshdeepsingh7595 ok yeah I'd just wait until those next mods you planned and then get it tuned and I think you'll be happy
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks mate
I found your vids because I'm looking at a ralliart. Was there a limited production of ralliarts? I'm looking at a 2011 with every factory option & it has Evo MR badge on left rear, Mitsubishi motors Evolution ralliart badge on glovebox & build number 38 of 500.
Hey mate, there wasn't a limited run in Australia as they were made the entire time the Evo was made.
The one you're looking at might be a dealer special or it could have been a limited amount built for your country?
@@JacksonStrain its in Sydney. www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2011-mitsubishi-lancer-ralliart-cj-auto-4wd-my11/SSE-AD-5331322/?Cr=4
Yeah I'd say the owner has put those badges on it, it does look nice and well optioned.
The evolution Mr badge definitely wouldn't have come from factory but does look like a good buy especially if you could talk them down a few thousand dollars from the asking price
@@JacksonStrain Thank you for clearing that up for me. I could not find any info on a limited edition ralliart with 500 made.
The only limited run from a dealership brand new was a Ralliart TMR wich was done by TMR in Melb...but...Mitsu put a stop ro it because the Ralliarts were performing to close to an evo. You ordered it from a dealership then it went to TMR To have the modifications fitted then you picked it up from the dealership...it still carried full mitsu warranty....ive got all the deatails for the TMRs somewhere....ps: they also did a Bathurst edition lancer evolution.
TMR also imported the Lancer Evolution RS wich you could buy brand new from them for about $35'000 and run it on rally rego...TMR was/is like a branch of Gibson motorsport/racing.
I’ve got a bugeye wrx that I’m building wide body etc and abit of work done I’m planning to get a evo 8 or 9 but I’m growing fond of the evo x also but should I get a evo X manual or evo X sst? Or should I get a Ralliart there’s a 30k difference
I'd suggest driving an SST and preferably one that's been rebuilt to get the best idea of how good it can be.
I prefer the SST personally and the Evo X version.. but in saying that the Ralliart is also a great choice just doesn't have some of the great parts and handling that help make the Evo X special
so I know this video is over a year old (so you might not see this) what would be the best option for a daily driver that does get pushed sometimes on curvy roads? if context helps too im a college student
I mean I've dailied mine for 8 years now and loved it, as long as you can afford to properly maintain it and look after it the way you drive I definitely reccomend one
Can you do a video on changing your headlight bulb? I can’t seem to find a video based around that task. Did both of your EVO X come with the GSR rear spoiler?
Hey mate yeah I can do that as I'm planning on changing the bulbs in my car soon, its different for the HIDs and halogens though as the HIDs are a bit more involved to change
@@JacksonStrain I figured that one out yesterday lol. Needless to say, I was defeated. Did both of your EVO X come with the GSR rear wing?
@@za.ma3306 haha yeah I usually take the lights out if replacing bulbs as I find it easier.
All Evo tens come with a wing in Australia and there was no option for no wing
@@JacksonStrain I wish that was the case here in America. Stock GSR wings straight from the dealership cost ~$2400. That’s crazy! I can’t find them anywhere. eBay wings are too sketchy.
Wow that's a ridiculous price for a wing, hopefully you find one for a decent price soon
Nice video!
Do you have in your Evo's "relocation kit" of AYC pump? What do you think about that? It's good to have it?
Thanks mate, I haven't done a relocation on either of them and haven't really looked into it to he honest.
I'm not sure what the reason for it is so ill have to do some research
@@JacksonStrain hehe because in Australia is allways sunny 🌞 weather ;)
Have a look on some vids from " Devin Niemela " or some other owners where their Evos are exposed on real harsh weather -> strong winter etc.
@@KM-vw9ni haha yeah pretty much, I do love Devins videos and wish I was as handy at pulling and apart and fixing stuff as he is 😂
I like your car, everyone else can just fluff off 😂
Haha thanks mate
Jackson I have a question I'm going to be buying a Evo 10 that's auto (I have cerebral Palsy so I can't drive manual) can I use S-sport mode in auto transmission
Hey mate, yes you can the only issue is that S-Sport will hold the gear all the way at 6krpm at all times so is best to use the paddles to upshift.
I made a video showing the way the car drives in each mode for both auto and manual mode so you should check that one out
I’ve been looking at a ralliart auto in the U.S. it’s at 60k miles or 105k km , price is around 15k do you think it would be worth it??
It’s 2012
Really depends on the miles and condition of the car. I’m currently looking at a 2015 RA for a little over $15k
It's hard to say as I don't know the pricing for the U.S market, it seems a little high to me as I usually hear of cars being so much cheaper over there
So i’m looking at a 2011 Ralliart with the SST. Has 185,000km. Should i be worried about the transmission having issues?? I will get a full service done on it as soon as possible when i get it. Thanks!:)
It's getting up there in kms so at some stage it's likely to need new clutches and shift fork possibly too.
If it's been looked after it may last a few years yet but be prepared to need to have some work done (my suggestion is always to buy one that someone else has spent the money on a rebuild already) but other than that yes do a service and teach in as soon as you buy it
@@JacksonStrain Thank you for the reply! Maintenance has been done regularly on the transmission, so oil and filter. Has not been rebuilt but the lady says it does not slip. But i will make sure i test drive it. And if it’s good i’ll make sure to always run it in S-Sport. You’re video help a lot as well!
@@JacksonStrainI'm looking at one with 58k miles. I'm assuming the trans should be fine it shifted good i think. I drove 3 ralliarts and they all shift different.
There’s no horror stories with Evo X SSTs lol
Just people who thrash them in normal mode and never change the fluid
Join any Evo group on Facebook and ask about the SST.
You get so many people commenting to say they're cheap, unreliable, can't handle power, they had a friend who kept breaking theirs ect ect
This is I mean by horror stories and people who have only heard these stories repeat them to others over and over leading new owners or potential owners worried that the car is a money pit
@@JacksonStrain SST WAS MADE BY GETRAG one of the most advanced transmissions companies in the world
Obviously it was there first dual clutch so obviously things can be improved in the after market
But lots of people forget the 6sp in the supra RZ is by getrag and I believe the 32/33/34 GTRs as well
Dual clutches like all cars with clutches need to be replaced true….. but that just comes with the territory
Unfortunately people don’t have hands on experience
Here’s the major issue with the car community
They think if a car can’t make 550-650 WHEEL HP on stock internal etc it’s not worthy LOL
They don’t understand how unusable that amount of power is in real world streets
2 obviously the more power the more strain……..
I guarantee majority of people who complain never driven a high HP car and have no idea how dangerous it is first of all and how unusable it can be in majority of applications
@@chloespencer8632 yep this is all true and exactly why I made this and countless other videos talking about the SST and how much I love it.
As the more people that see them and hear positive things the less they listen to all the negatives other people say.
The main thing I like people to understand is that it's more expensive to repair and maintain than a manual or conventional auto box so I don't want people to get a bad experience when buying one with worn clutches then getting a repair bill they can't afford and didn't expect
@@JacksonStrain there’s a few people in America with 250000km on there X only replacing the fluid regularly and the clutches themselves twice I think
It’s the same BS they say about the 08-09 35GTRS there transmissions are weak…… here’s what they don’t tell you
Those transmissions broke coz of how many launches people did with them and it was designed to launch every other day
It’s always miss information
Just like 4g vs 4b
The 4b is a better engine in every way expect it’s a open deck and has alloy bottom end…. But in stock forum it’s a lighter more efficient more powerful-more reliable motor with timing chain etc etc
Just more miss information
Then they call the X not a real Evo
But totally accept the 35 gtr as a real gtr even tho it’s a dual clutch and has a V6 from the VQ family not I6 from RB lol
Sorry for the rant
Keep up the amazing content
I’m on Perth btw we should do a video together
Nvm your not in Perth 😂
So do you have super sport in the ralliart or no
Hey Nick the Ralliart doesn't come with S-Sport mode but can be easily flashed on by a tuner or even remotely if you want to pay someone and let do it via your laptop.
Our Ralliart which we recently sold had it flashed on and it's the mode we always used when driving
For anyone wondering there is now a video series on TH-cam on how to rebuild the sst.
Way above my abilities haha but yeah ive seen some of those videos and is good to have a guide
@@JacksonStrain ford also used the dct450 in there powershift transmission for a majority of there cars. Go to the wreckers and get spare parts.
Also there's a guy from Wales who shows how to do the teach-in on the trans, as well as how to rebuild the AYC pump, and a lot of other useful things.
@@emlix1 i tried that program its been bricked
I also got told by COBB that the softwares for our cars a different world wide based on petrol purity and octane levels.
What's your ride height
Not sure mate just adjusted the Coils to a height we liked and didn't really measure
Not this old "myth" again geez...the sst is a strong box and there are ones out there with over 300'000kms on them and no fault...but if you increase horsepower on the motor as with manual box's you need to look at changing clutch's...simple! People will say all sorts of things about tech they no nothing about...and its mainly die hard manual transmission and subaru fan bois that will trash twin clutch box's...its like anything...if you look after it ...it will be fine
As I said the amount of messages I get asking about SST and potential problems is why I decided to make this video.
I decided I would list potential problems as a lot of people do get them being that the cars can be 12 years old now, and the most vocal are people who have had problems.
As I said in the video also I've had zero issues with either of mine and am prepared to replace clutches as after 180,000kms I'd expect them to need replacing eventually.
I 💯 agree with this comment and if your a true die hard fan that bags on the evo x and ralliarts, then your not that true die hard fan that you claim to be. Go join the commo gang if you cant enjoy a pure rally icon. #norespect
is the mr faster then the gsr?
Yes it is until a certain point, but a mildly modded MR vs a similar GSR will be faster at the drag strip
Reason to buy an Evo because it’s an Evo!!! Hahahaha
Haha love it
@@JacksonStrain lots of knowledge in one video bro I wish I would’ve watch more before buying a stick but I bet I’ll have more fun in the MR
@@locsautovlog8940 thanks bro, yeah both are a lot of fun so you really you can't go wrong.
I'd love to see a video on your channel of you trying out an MR though
@@JacksonStrain I need to meet someone with an MR, I say it all the time over here Evo people don’t talk to Evo people lol
@@locsautovlog8940 ahh damn that sucks
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Neither.. you buy a GSR.
That's an option if you want to be slow I guess
@@JacksonStrain “there will always be someone faster than you” 🤷♂️, it may be slower but its more fun. Plus the GSR is more reliable as well.
@@PR1NCETD0T GSR isn't more fun more fun in my opinion..
launching harder, accelerating faster, holding full boost while shifting and heating cars with far more horsepower is more fun to me.
GSR isn't really more reliable at all, I've had my SST Evo for over 8 years and I had a slipping clutch pack after 7 years which I replaced, a GSR would have also had to replace a clutch in that time too so really mine has been as reliable as manual.
Wierdest title ever. Answer= neither. Buy a Evo 8 or 9 with the differential (04 RS, any 05 or any 06).
Nah the X is a better car so buy one over an 8 or 9.
Thanks for watching 🤘