World's craziest 2CV driver in the South of France! | Motoring Research
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2018
- On the Volkswagen up! GTI launch in Nice, Andrew came across a mental 2CV driver, as he was driving up the mountain roads!
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You will not overturn a 2CV, no matter how hard you try. My dad used to recount being at the Geneva car show one year when Citroen had set up a special test track with an open challenge. Anyone who could overturn a 2CV would win a free car, and of course nobody won. Despite the whole car being only slightly more complicated than the average lawn tractor, the 2CV was equipped with an amazing suspension system.
someone I knew had a similar challenge, tho he was inteligent enough to try to roll her in reverse (do not do this at home, it is indeed the only way to flip one)
It's similar with Reliant Robins.
As a 2cv driver let me reassure you, this guy was in no danger of tipping over, or losing control. Looks dramatic as hell but that's literally the only way of getting up a hill like that without losing all your momentum and being stuck at 10mph. So much fun though.
I'm a Dyane6 driver and you're right but, police doesn't always understand this...
Neither do cars coming the other way...
Sure, they always "flash their high beam headlights" (hope I'm writting it properly) hahaha
Have you ever removed the tailgate? I used to take mine off so often i replaced the nuts on the rear crossmember with wingnuts.
Roll the roof back, open the door, remove the four nuts and then depress the door holder opener thingy :) and slide the piece attached to the door out of the other one.
I don't know if all Dyanes had the ability to fold the back seats up against the front, but mine did. The first time i did this i went to collect a six foot square fence panel for a mate. 'Most' of it fitted in. I roped it all down so it couldn't move and then drove back to his. On the way i stopped at a roundabout next to three guys in a Volvo estate. They saw me, laughed and then wound down the window and gave me a round of applause and the driver shouted that he couldn't do that in his Volvo!
If you do do this, be aware that the body flexes a little...
To the point that if you throw it into a tight left hand bend the right hand side door is likely to fly open. The same happens for the left hand door on a tight right hand bend.
I wonder if that's the reason Citroen fitted rubber door straps, because the door springs open, and then is twanged shut by the strap :)
The exhaust sounds so sexy with the roof and door off too!
Wingnuts would be an awesome idea come to think of it! My dream is to build half doors that go as high as the windowsill. Pair that with some kind of quick release system for the roof and summer would just be sorted. Fuck it, how hard can all that be?
The 80 years old priest of my village rode this way with his 2 CV. He was even more toxic with his mobylette AV 65 moped. Nobody tried to follow him downhill, far too fast for any ordinary motorcyclist even with a 350 cc Nice memories, he was a very good and gentle man with a wit sense of humour, he died almost 100 years old.
80 years old... priest? Holy mother of God
A *priest* ?
Are you mad is this the initial D: Vatican edition?
He had god on his side 😅
that van probably has about 20hp at best and i bet he kept his foot down all the way, what a legend!
35bhp if memory serves
Koito rob the 2CV's had between 9 and 29 Horsepower, i have heared some People say they have a 600cc engine with 35hp, i couldn't find anything about those... this 2cv Probably had the 9 or 12hp engine.
Too fast for 12. Most likely the 18hp one. I've driven with 12, and you never get out of First on such a slope.
Performance on this cars depends on engine, carburetor, flywheel, gearbox and body, they all could be different, not a lot, but while driving you really feel the difference between ones and others. A 602cc M28 engine with twin barrel Solex carb gives you 32 hp.
None 602cc 35hp DIN (take attention the old powers unit was in SAE who is unrealistic) was built, only 29hpDIN : the only engine who give 35hp DIN was the Visa 652cc engine with aluminium nicasil cylinder and full electronic ignition, was never installed in the 2cv, but it's posible to put one in a 2cv but need flywheel machinig to fit properly (clutch distance is different), and instaling a 2cv upgraded electronic ignition (the Visa ignition is not compatible with the 2cv gearbox who support the timing sensors).The 2cv on the viodeo cannot have a 9 or 12hp, the body is much more modern and fit the 24 to 29hp era...
I live in the south of France and believe me, driving like that is not unusual. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the driver was a septuagenarian housewife on her way home from the local market !!!
I live here too, and if you look in your rear view mirror and there is not a French driver 3 inches from your back bumper, redlining his engine, with several more behind him doing the same thing, you are probably in Intermarche's car park.
Irony hahahahahahha
Dans le Verdon ça roule comme ça, et ça passe tranquille hahaha 👌🏼
He is fully in control with his "Deuche" (abbreviation of 2 Chevaux in French). He knows how to get the most out of it to climb the hill as quickly as possible.
Very funny, the extravagance of the "2 pattes" (2 legs in English, for the number of cylinders) suspensions which never roll over !
The car that has given me the most satisfaction to date, fun and pleasure of traveling too.
This is *THE* way to drive a 2CV!
Every 2cv behave like that because of the suspention, and that's the only way of going uphill without losing all the speed
He is dangerous, but not crazy
Alexis Balcerzak does the car lack rollbar under?
Great driving, it's all about preserving momentum. Fair play to the bloke...
Love it!
My dad used to have a Citroen Diane (posh 2cv) he used to love cornering like that. 'Scraping the doorhandles' he called it. Humpback bridges were fun too!!
Not sure what's so crazy. That's how a 2cv should be driven. It's part of the fun!
He was probably screaming POWER!
I've read "POWER" in Jeremy Clarkson's voice hahahahaha
@@riejurv50 mee too 😂
I'm surprised he could keep that speed uphill! That's probably why he didn't want to slow down in the turns! Pretty awesome! ;)
The reason he's driving like that is because he knows you're behind him. A common thing with 2cv drivers is that they know how under powered their cars are so they never lift off the throttle, even in these tight curves. Because these cars only have between 9 and 12 horsepower, lifting off the throttle for one second can screw up your top speed for hours before you get a downhill section to get your speed back. At least that is the story I've been told.
This body style is too new to have 9 or 12 or even 18hp, this one has 24 or 29hp. The problem is the gears are too far apart to build momentum uphill and actually shift to a higher gear, so if you slow down you're stuck revving all the way up in 1st gear. If you keep momentum, you probably make it up all the way in 2nd.
A 2CV will never ever roll going forward on stock suspension with the correct Michelin tyres, so as long as there's room for understeer there is no reason to lift off.
Where is the video footage of the crazy driver? I only saw an elderly AK being driven normally.
What a legend! Using it for what it was intended for =D
This brings back memories - back in the 1970s we had a 2CV, a Dyane and an Ami 6 Break!
Needs more eurobeat.
Agreed!
MAX POWER MAX POWER!!!!!!
Max power , maximum and higher
because of its suspension the 2cv are almost impossible to flip over
This is the opposite of drifting. This is what true grip driving looks like.
When your car doesnt have enough to power you up the hill you build it at the bottom and fight to keep it to the top.
Handles like a dream
That's why your first car must be a 2CV so that you learn how to really drive a car.
Luckily mine was. Set me up for life 👍
Fail to see the issue here, how else do you drive a Citroen A series.
Hangs on well considering the body roll..any other car with that much roll would be off down the mountainside....
People calm your secondary characteristics, it's a 2 CV:
You will have to badly trick it to flip, at all.
And, with a car of 21 hp (at max, looks more like a 17 hp version) You don't give up hitting it hard as long as You want to keep moving even slowly along a mountain road like that.
(Drove a bunch of these for together about 400.000 km)
602 28hp.
I remember my friend driving hers from Marseille to Charleval, she use to knock it into neutral on the long down hills to go faster.
My Cat Ate Me My grandfather just cuts the engine off actually, it works even better^^
Awesome Little Car that you can't overturn... hard to believe it was designed 75 years ago.😍😍😍
He won't turn that over going forwards, physically impossible 👌
A funny 2CV angry "attacking" the hill, belly on the ground. All our youth.
It's rare to see that today. Very funny !
On the edge of grip Adhesion and keeping as much momentum as possible
Made my day :)
Not crazy, this is a typical 2CV reaction
That man has a lotta red wine in his system..lol
We French know how to have fun for little money ! : )
Aaah... memories of being a passenger rolling thru the corners in my aunt's Dyane
Some top notch tofu delivery in action
EXCELENTE!!! SOLO LOS QUE TUVIMOS CITROËN SABEMOS LO QUE ES...
AK 400 - 28 HP - 602ccm - built until 1978. This one is empty. It's even more fun when it's charged - preferably with a loaded roof rack *G*. At **0:30** he takes the corner *a tad* fast...
damn, your right. Had to watch it again. The roofline is definitely ak400 with a 602.
Awesome !
Just so great! Amazing car!
Beautiful, just like any 2CV. Looks crazy but that is just how these cars are supposed to act...and it is quite safe B-)
French Takumi delivering Baguettes
Best handling car Citroen have ever built!Brilliant👍!
In my country the 2CV got a nickname "Kachna" (means "Duck") because when it cornered, it looked like a walking duckling.
0:49 thoes lines from whatever drift cars where there are pritty mint not gonna lie LMAO
That's how you have to drive a 2CV if you want to actually get anywhere.
Back in the '60s I remember seeing in a car magazine a somewhat tongue-in-cheek article, where they tested how much various cars can be tilted before they fall over. 2CV won, its tipping point was no less than 60 degrees from horizontal. So the car in the video was nowhere near to flip. If my memory serves, VW Kleinbus came last with 45 degrees.
That's how all 2CVs handle.
Everybody is talking about the supposed insane driving of the 2CV, whose driver has visibility enough for doing his way. The discontinue lines onthe track, here in Europe, can be traspassed. No one word about the driver who took the footage...
Please don't cry.
Hahaha, that is some hardcore stability.
Legends say he beat takumi fujiwara on the downhill
It lacks Initial D music in the background.
When you have a car, but you wanna be in a boat...
I once hit a quick corner in a friend's R-R Shadow, didn't notice he had the suspension on 'soft'. from inside it felt like this looks like outside. Thought I was going to roll the Rolls, but it was fine
no danger at all. I had the AK400 for ten years as a student. OK, I had a stabilizer (ami super) on the front axis, and 135 tyres instead of 125) but also a ami 8 carburator that brougt 2-3 HP more... riding this way was a gas. the poor guy just kept the car going, you need to save every bit of momentum on mountain roads... :D
Living on the edge of the envelope at 20 mph.
With a box of eggs and a few veg in the back and he'll have a nice veggie omelette by the time he gets home :-D
Almost every southern French drives like that !!
Ah... bella roba !
That’s France quality, btw the 2CV suspension are that week bc the car was originally designed the go across a field without breaking a single egg from a box.
It's the way a 2CV rides in turns. You are too young to have driven these cars...
That's how they're meant to handle!
J’Adore 😍
*WHEN 2CV-TEC KICKS IN*
Fool, he was testin the suspension!
I used to drive my 2CV the same way at the time (ca. 1970).
What people not familiar of the 2CV (and that includes almost everybody except the French and maybe a few other European countries) is that the 2CV suspension was very very "springy" with the center of gravity of the car quite low (or at least lower than it seems) as the top is made of very light corrugated metal tin this case) most commonly the top was made of canvas.
I admit the man at 0:45 didn't master his driving 100%… otherwise although "spectacular" it was pretty common routine for a 2V.
The 2V was initially designed in the late 30's as an "all terrain" vehicle for the army. Blueprints were made but I believe no actual car came out before war came. Manufacturer lauchend the 2CV from that after the war.
It was a great and fun little car. For many it was the "first car" akin the beetle in Germany or USA. For people living in the country it was an all purpose vehicle (you could remove the seats) and you could drive it in any condition or almost. In any state too : I remember a friend who disposed of all the seats altogether and sat at the wheel with a wooden stool (no it wasn't even a chair)… These were the days ! …
Several 2CV went around the world, one crossed the Sahara desert, I know personally of one traveling in the Andes mountains from Mexico to South of Chile.
A basic tool box, a few spark plugs, some rubber tube, a length of wire, and a roll of string was all you needed to have it fix in any place…
Great little car !…
Of course such basic equipment had its drawback.
Speed was never higher than 90 km/h (55mph) that is going downhill ! Heater was non existent : with a canvas top winter driving was something to be experienced (some took with them a portable petroleum heater … ), the first wipers were just a laugh (they even could operate by hand in case the mechanism broke !!!…), door latches were limited to that : a latch. But the car never failed, or almost.
Now they are collectors items and are quite expensive !…
now thats some soft suspension lol
the word is compliant!
Probably just a regular delivery or “Sunday” drive for that guy, nothing unusual for him because it’s a 2CV so the suspension is wobbly at best so you get used to it after a while!
Here is totally another approach to cornering by Citroën:
th-cam.com/video/7iarg2_RdOA/w-d-xo.html
Skip to 0:13 for the start of the video.
That's completly normal driving for a 2CV
Nothing dangerous, soft suspension and keeping the foot in. It will just grip, its fine!
Pas de soucis, ça tient la route ainsi, même si ça prend large et ça penche, tout est conforme dans cette conduite hormis les nombreux passages outre la ligne centrale
And yes!.... The 2CV is the only car where the retro can touch while cornering while keeping the four wheels on the ground....!!!!!!
This is how you suppose to drive 2CV
Saw a bit of film where they proved the only way to tip over a 2CV was driving very fast in reverse gear?
You should see a 2CV when it is really hurtling down hill at speed through corners. Huge fun for driver. Scary for others who have no knowledge of their legendary suspension.. to drive across a ploughed paddock without breaking a basket of eggs on the front seat.
I used to turn around a rondpoint at 60kph on a Ami-8 break ,mi friends called me mad ,but nobody dare to do that with their "normal" cars.
That's pretty much standard for 2CVs. We're talking two horizontal springs per corner and all held in tension front to back. Unlike moderns you're not limited to what space is left under the wheel arches after you take into account the springs, arms, shocks etc . . . if your mind is stuck in the standard modern mindset then this will have more travel than you could ever think possible.
Smokey Joe www.korresproject.gr
Looks cool, but rather over engineered just to accomplish something the 2CV did in the 1940s.
Smokey Joe except that this thing will never flip over, even when going with reverse. Also it has alot of power
Route des épingles à Balsièges (48) :D J'adore cette route, ses épingles sont monstrueuses :)
Col fe Braus 06
He doesn't normally drive like that, he said some shifty looking Eurobox was following him!
Totally normal. It wont roll.
Completely bladdered!
What a hero,get him and his car to next Monaco GrandPrix......not for the win,but for the fun...!
L im french i can tell you everything about the 2cv. First, it balance like that because of his "suspension jambon" Second, this model of 2cv have a flat 2cylinder 435cc make between 9~13 horsepower so the driver is not crazy. he drive this car is need to be to not being stock in the uphill (sorry for my bad english)
PS: i have one too but with the largest engine on this car (flat 2cylinder 602cc that make 35hp).
You really should apologise for your English. Jambon in Engish is HAM :) You know, pig meat...
Koito rob i know ham is jambon in english , i just said the name of that suspension.
Motor 602 28 hp.
He is speedrunning the shit out of that road
Welcome in the south of France guy's ! Everyone is driving like that in the alp's above Nice, especially after drinking
Probably driven by that Toy Story delivery guy.
Eurobeat intensifies
You can put this car on the top ! it's really stable !
It reminds me of Le Gendarme de St. Tropez xD
It's physically impossible to roll it while going forward, don't worry. 😂
Back in the day you could pull similar tricks in Renault 4 vans, their leans scared the crap out of other drivers ……..many the time I've had a tailgater ''back the 4X off '' 'cos I threw it round a bend or 2.
Rallye Monte Carlo ?
That car did not have the roll bar same as the 2cv so it's quite normal seeing the car rolling from on side to the other considerably.
Oui! Oui!! Oui!!!
Charging down the French Alps in a more modern right hand drive 2CV6 my French female passenger sitting in the front left seat where she would normally been a driver exclaimed. "60 dans in Deuche c'est trop" (seems too much). My response. "It is 60 Miles not Kilometres - over 100 kph". The French are used to 2CV ballet in corners. Formidable fun.
takumi fujiwara in france (delivering croissant)
How much G force?
common , this car has a very old reputation that it cannot be flipped ; so the driver isnt crazy he just knows his vehicle well :p
Le mec en tient une sévère !
That nun again!