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- At a time when the Election Commission is under fire from Opposition parties for being biased, former president Pranab Mukherjee has lauded the role of the poll panel saying the 2019 Lok Sabha polls were conducted "perfectly". The former Congress man's regard for the poll panel has resulted in appreciative tweets, mostly from Bharatiya Janata Party leaders. The Congress, however, said it did not think that the former president was "aware" of the incidents of the poll panel giving a clean chit to Prime Minister Narendra Modi for every alleged violation. Speaking at a book launch event in New Delhi on Monday, he said that right from the first election commissioner Sukumar Sen to the present election commissioners, the institution is working very well. He said all the three commissioners are appointed by the executive and they are doing their job well. His remarks came a day after Congress President Rahul Gandhi alleged that the Election Commission's "capi-tulation" before Prime Minister Narendra Modi is obvious and the poll watchdog is not feared and respected anymore. On this edition of the big picture we will analyse the politicization of democratic and constitutional institutions
Guest - Akshay Rout, Former Director General, Election Commission of India,
Ashok Tandon, Senior Journalist,
V. K. Agnihotri, Former Secretary General, Rajya Sabha & Constitution Expert,
J Sai Deepak, Advocate, Supreme Court,
Anchor - Frank Rausan Pereira.
Sir please invite those person also who dissent with EC otherwise it will not be meaningful debate.....
Among best points was "selection of members of ECI shud be same like those of Lokpal, CBI director etc to bring more transparency and accuracy".
The best news channel for debate show. Right information , No non sense info , and silently one listen when other speak.
Agnihothri sir well said.but discussion is not useful where recent issues like lavasa, a EC told he dont want to attend poll panel discussions anymore as his dessent is not recorded in giving cleanchits to modi and shah
I'm here 'cause jai is here📍👉 👍
Is Amit Shah holding a gun to your heads while debating or what?
3 people argued that opposition is at fault to question the EC's biasness towards 'Modiji'. Another fact is that dissent opinion was not a part of judgement. Nobody even spoke on it. We clearly saw communally polarising speeches of our honourable PM and his pithoo Amit Shah. Also, EC waited 2 days for Modiji to complete his campaign before putting a ban in bengal.
This debate was very poor and meaningless. Seems like how Modiji institutionalised corruption through electoral bonds, Rajya Sabha TV is institutionalising Modi Bhaktism through one sided debates. Please remember most of your audience are future IAS officers of our country and it cannot be a platform for Bhaktism.
Vaishnavites, Shivaites and now Modites in 2019
Disagreement should be there in every debate otherwise it will be biased like this debate.. I like the point that was raised by the MR.Agnihotri that appointment of the Commissioners should not be done by govt directly rather than by proper system.
Awesome biased debate.... Frank I always appreciate u but can understand ur compulsion....
Stop drinking Pappu mutra for better brain
opposition has failed in this election ,they are damaging the image of india..successful conduct of 900 mn voters election is itself a huge thing and must be applauded.
Yes....we should appluad EC but there are flaws too present in it which we should try to rectify through dissent and discussion
@@Therealaty yes! Government should bring structural change to give more autonomy to eci and enhance its credibility..
Election Commission:
- Judicial, administrative, regulatory body.
- Constitutional institution played exceptional role in conducting elections throughout India in a country such vast & diverse.
- 91 cr electorate, 10 lakh polling booth, 11 mn polling personnel
- Praise from foreign media
- EC treated at par with SC Judge.
- Reforms: from single member to multi member.
- absolute neutrality - talk of the world.
They have continuously strived for higher standards and made the electoral process
more peaceful, transparent, inclusive, participative.
- From ballot box to EVM to VVPAT - rigging violence.
- Social media platforms: 900 posts taken down.
- enforcement against money power - campaign bans in Bengal.
- Electoral process is a time bound process & they looked at each complaint in a objective manner.
Concerns:
- Political scrutiny over every elections: Low quality of discourse
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VVPAT - 33%, 50% -> 100%: unreasonable demands by political parties.
- Constitutional bodies used in as political tool in atrocious manner.
CEC is at par with SC judge.
- SS dhanoa , TN Shesan Case: Article 324 - insulted from any political pressure - function within democracy but pull or push from any political party.
baseless allegations on its integrity
- Freedom of Speech 19(1) & restrictions under 19(2) -
talking of national security - construed as violation of Election code of conduct but clean chit to PM
Steps can be taken:
- Vesting of some power to EC for contempt: constitution marker - must be deterrent.
motivation of these request & baseless allegations must be judged.
- Constitutional backing to MCC.
- relook at the way EC are appointed: may be by collegium or like a committee (for CBI or Lokpal)
- Extend the status of SC judge to other two EC's
- Political maturity - We cannot just reform the EC without expecting any change from
political class.
We need to preserve & protect the constitutional bodies to earn public trust & for that every stakeholder has to be held accountable. Political class have to be onboard with EC reforms and only then we can aim for much seamless electoral process
when ECI worked against the govt- 1.ensured book release of 'rafale scam'
2. stopped pm modi movie,web series of modi
3. gave clean chit to rahul gandhi ..etc ..in all these incident ECI become good but once they didn't favor opposition ECI has been ridiculed..
Thik bola Bhai
The last point given by Ashok Tondon is not fair. If a candidate is wrong then he deserves to be behind bars not in the parliament. ECI has to implement Art. 324 more strongly otherwise democracy will weaken.
it depends on the degree of being wrong during elections. if it can be overlooked by muting the candidate from campaigning for certain time
I just came to listen j sai deepak .
Nice to listen j sai deepak jee.
No diversity of opinion in the panel.
Agnihotri was on different track.
Good points but seemed to be too much biased!!! Everyone in the panel seemed to be too much appreciative of Election commision of India.... These people should know what is public discourse
The best channel. On.which I can trust... Really superb discussion
u deserve to be the best news channel
Sai Deepak will be the next top legal luminary of India...
EC is hacked
I felt like a contradictory side rather say the other side of coin is missing in this debate..and it's tilted onto one side only😇
Opposition specially Italianghandi is desparate. She knows her son will lose. So her attitude is Bhhar me jaaye ye desh, Bharatbarsh, Bhar me jaaye democracy,my son should win. She has made it personal, but obviously no one has the guts to tell. If you speak out your job and life is at risk.
SUPRATIK SARKAR and maybe we need to shift towards a Presidential form of government.
@@mukulmishra4722 This is a issue of huge debate. I doubt anyone will support it. But I think its good for India because the way the PM, ministers, bureaucrats are attacked after working tirelessly and portrayed in the media as if they have done some gravious crime after maybe a very smmmallll mistake, this will stop. People very easily go after these constitutional institutions without knowing the honesty and integrity of the officers concerned.
J sai😘
J SAl Deepak... 😎
The opposition complained to the EC even if Modi drew a long breath. What can the commission do but to turn it down. Then the oppos cry EC partiality.
For this new RSTV "The right stand is the right stand".
Rahul calling PM as chor without any profe and banning movie,namo tv i dont see BJP outraised.opposition is totally disconnected from people...
He is calling chaukidar Chor ,if he resembles the same do a defamation case ,but he is coward,once he starts the Rafale ,he himself will be jail,lol
J sai Deepak - Gold standard !
Ohhh my god... 😊😊The respected ashok tondon is hugely biased ..is unofficial spokesperson of BJP RSS .whenever he comes to AIR I just change the channel..plz don't invite him as a guest RSTV
Piddi,
Frank sir, Please make a video on narcotics & heroines and its illegal trade ,adverse effect on india and recent news.
For a strong democracy an strong Opposition needed for constructive criticism but sadly the Congress of today has become personal property of one family which discarded the contribution of non Gandhi Family leaders like PVNR,Shastri and Patel.
Also Congress has nothing new to offer to aspirational India than giving out doles like NYAY,a relic of Fabian Socialism..
Congress must introspect within and shed of its character of being fiefdom of Gandhis and good leaders should be promoted
do watch
Pranab मुखर्जी said something more... Don't show just one side of the glass🍸....
Independence and transperancy are very important for maintenance of standards of constitutional bodies
Agree with Agnihotri sir
I have always been a fan of Rajya sabha TV. I watch the debates and learn many things from experts from your shows.
But here I would like to emphasize that this is a political problem, the complaints being raised by political parties mainly from the opposition. U should have invited their representative for discussion if at all you have chosen a highly controversial topic. You could have let them make their point. And experts would have answered them.
Secondly it appeared from the whole debate that dissenting voices have no place in the Rajya sabha TV. So sad indeed. Please upheld the values of the house of the elders. If the RS TV can't broadcast govt criticism please stay away from such debates.
My humble request therefore is please avoid such topics.
I agree, lately all the debates in Rajya Sabha TV has been one sided & especially pro-Government. I don't know why panelists in the debate are so pro-constitutional bodies as if the members occupying the position of constitutional bodies can't do wrong. Look at the recent allegations against CJI, the SC did not even follow a proper procedure & now the case has been silenced. We should remember that the institutions are sacred not the individuals in it. Sadly, all panelists are pro-elitist & ignore the weak.
The statements from the opposition are baseless are being made after seeing the exit poll results.
Takeaway from this debate is
Politicians(every one including present ruling party when they r in opposition do same) using gold standard constitutional institution as scapegoat just bcse they have certain restrictions on speech ,
As j Sai Deepak said we need contempt code those who malign without any proof.
ECI done thier best to the ability for fair election .we have to also understand that there will be some delay of decision on voilation of MCC by ECI which are unintentional ,bcse of diversity,complexity,geographical constrain they have to look into whole of India not just one particular party concern.
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Agnihotri ji points are valid
In the past ,Advani ji and some other political leaders have stressed for bipartisan selection panel for chief election commissioner and other election commissioners
Similarly the removal process of cec should be extended to other election commissioner to ensure independence and impartiality
That time there is no VVPAT,now everything is clear in front of cameras recording in technological era no one can try to do any swapping or hacking...
@@openmind2681 i have no iota of doubt on evm functioning
Rather i endorse the points suggested by Agnihotri ji to ensure impartial administration of election commission through some reforms ,so that election commission integrity as impartial institution is managed irrespective of the party in power
Even former president pranam mukharji changes their statement within 24 hr, he is still in politics.. opportunistic politician must be control 2-3 political party stop rest..they became buisness party and involved in curruption game
At times J Sai Deepak feels that whatever is written is gospel.This is not true.
Sai deepak is just a genius
India's enemies disliked I guess
My fellow viewers, as per my understanding, we should take away the following ideas from this edition:
1) We must appreciate India's electoral mechanism. It take efforts from million of administrative and security personals to conduct free and fair elections in such a diverse environment and that to at a large scale. Eg- Points made by Mr. Rout.
2) We must be aware of the constitutional fundamentals. And only then we should make our view regarding any Constitutional institution. Eg- Article 19(1) and 19(2) point made by Mr. Tandon.
3) At last, there must be fruitful debates on further ensuring independency and transparency in ECI. But lets also keep in mind that we cannot expect everything from ECI to do, there are responsibilities on part of other stakeholders like political parties also.
Excellent
J Sai Deepak always best suggestion
Can anybody list the committees mentioned by j sai deepak ji.
Can anyone tell me the daily showtimes of RStv?
You can question the appointment but not the integrity of institutions.
Only V K Agnihotri talked great while others only talked rubbish
Very very comprehensive discussion.....
This is a completely one sided panel, dissenting views should be presented rather than 4 people saying the same thing in different manner
nice debate
What a channel...!
What an amazing, To the point and mature Discussion this is, some very good points were presented by Mr. J Sai Deepak.
This is gold
Descent Election Commissioner Ashok Lavasa is known to be close to P Chithambaram, who brought Ashok to MHA in 2009. Reportedly her wife appointed as director of a company on same year and now she is director in 12 companies.
---Pgurus
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Are yaar hindi me kyu nhi aate h zyada interview
भाई यह तुम्हे interview dikh Raha hain..आपस में चर्चा (debate) ho Rahim hain. Aate Hain hindi me bhi Loksabha TV pe bhi
@@openmind2681 are bhai tum to dil pe
Le liye
Fantastic argument Sai Deepak Sir....
Actually his intension to join BJP
So his lauding to EC.
My view is that as the national institution it need to maintain its reputation but present it degrading it's position in world phenomenon
And your intention is to join mahagathban 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂
Yeah if Congress Win it is good if it doesn't it is bad wow 😂😂😂
What is your intentions
@@vaibhavkumar5253 neutrality has to manage the EC
purimishetty ravi true
Government channels shouldn't discuss about political issues, there is no one to present a contradicting view.
Brain dead. its a national issue,and its a media must be discuss unbaise information...
sai deepak ji non sense.know what happening
I would say chutiya like u vote for Congress 🤣🤣🤣
Sai Deepak has a separate fan base in Rajyasabha TV viewers.
Try listening more to his views. You'll gain some knowledge.
Dont say nonsense ...he has more sense than u thats why he is on rajyasabha tv and u r on blaming on youtube university......be silent if cannot praise discussion.....
Do You know even basic of 324,what is that? Muh utha ke aaya aur bak diya..pagal
Election commission should not be biased at all
Still dont like d bearded Frank...we want the old Frank back...clean shaven n formal... :)
I dont think supreme court interfare in every independent agency,even we knew supreme court have court fixer...
There should be an article in the constitution of india that deals with defamation of Narendra Modi by any means attracting death penalty.. 🔏🔏🔏🤔😕
lol.. what drugs are you on?