British and German Officers: World War II (1945) | British Pathé
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- This footage from 1945, shows a compilation of shots of British and German officers in the last year of World War II including famous British officer Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery.
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(FILM ID:2155.11)
Location Unknown / Unclear - Germany.
German officer talking to British officer on side of road, troops relaxing and army vehicles and tanks are seen in background. Several shots of a group of officers talking on side of road. One is reading a document. Close up shot of a document - one page printed letter.
Several shots of German officer and escort driving off in a jeep. Group of German officers sits in a car. They hold white flag high in the air.
Various shots of large group of German and British officer in front of a house. Officers entering house.
German driver refuelling a car from petrol can. Several shots of British soldiers chatting on and around a tank, the house in background. German officers leaving the house. British interpreter explains them where to go.
Several shots of German officers lined up in front of Monty's caravan. Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery leaves the caravan to talk to imprisoned officers. Various shots of Monty talking to officers through interpreter. Group of officers looking on. He finishes and leaves, officers walk off to a car. More shots of the officers' encounter with Monty. General Alfred Jodl is in a group of captured German officers.
Several shots of a group of British and German officers leaving a tent and getting into cars.
Note: This is probably footage of preparations of German surrender terms.
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Note the respect they have for each other and the relieve that the war is over
buuullshit the german officers dont want to end up in russian hands...they;ve just fooled the brit officers FOOLS
Never should have shown any respect.
@@amosrusie3936 soldiers are normal men, war criminals and politicians are not
I believe the tall officer in the British warm at 00:45 is Major General Barber GOC 15th Scottish
Sadly...can't see ....Romel meet Monty !
Original. No commentary. They need a lip reader tp give some idea in what is being said..Just a thought
Yes it would be great to know, what's going on there. It doesn't look like a real post war scene, but definitely not as a situation while the war. I think it's some negotiations how to go on in the unclear situation in the North if Germany where the Reich continues for some weeks after the capitulation.
Спасибо за информацию.
An excellent historical record of Field Marshal Sir Bernard Montgomery accepting the Nazi unconditional surrender at Lünberg Heath, nr Hamburg Germany on the 4th May 1945. Finally, after 6 long bloody years of warfare, at last it was over !
Shame there is no audio though.
Alfred Jodl signed the Official Surrender of all German Armies, Navy, and Luftwaffe on May 8, 1945. May 9 in Russia. Thats why VE Day in Western Europe is different than in Russia.
@@anthonyfuqua6988
Karl Donitz was appointed the Reichs head of state by Hitler before he died. It was Dontiz who authorised the unconditional surrender demanded by Montgomery at Lündberg Heath on 4th May, sending Generaladmiral Von Freidberg to sign the surrender documents. Von Freidberg then travelled to Eisenhower's headquarters at Reims in France but claimed he had no authority to surrender to the Soviets.
Von Freidberg then asked Donitz to authorise someone else and that's when Alfried Jodl was sent and signed it before midnight on the 8th May and it came into effect on the 9th May. The reason the Soviets end of WW2 is different, is because the Soviet General Alexie Antonov thought this previous staged surrender in Reims seemed like seperate peace deal. So he therefore wanted another official surrender on the 9th May in Berlin. After the war Karl Donitz was tried at Nuremberg and after being found guilty imprisoned a Spandau prison and was released in 1956.
General Von Freidberg on the other hand was imprisoned by the British and committed suicide on the 23rd May 1945.
@@johnbrereton5229 I'm aware of all that but as I watched the Russian Victory parade this year, they said the surrender was signed at 11 something P.M. in Germany but it was after midnight in Moscow. They wanted a General to surrender to them but the Russians and Europeans agreed to recognize the May 8th signing as the official surrender.
there is audio of this somewhere on youtube
It would be great if there was some info on what was happening and who was participating. Any sub titles would help.
Admiral von Friedeberg at 3:12 . he committed suicide shortly after
The British were just too nice, I bet if it was the other way around and Germans were the winners there wouldn't be any chit chatting
They would be. Look how the Germans treated the occupied channel islands (very well.) The Germans would've been amiable until they started getting massacred in their thousands by Partisan forces.
no individual soldier personally hated the other. I believe these gentlemen would like to stop at the bar for a drink.
People forget many USA soldiers and Southern Whites had the same ideology as the Nazi.
@@Matthew-hb9ff Not really lol
@@Matthew-hb9ff wtf
Not the SS..those bastards deserved to be shot on sight.
My late friend was a Para. He hated them with a passion! especially the SS. He did until the day he died.
gen patton then remarked,,we have been fighting the wrong enemy,,
Yes
THIS IS A VIDEO WORTH PRESERVATION FOR POSERITY. ONCE THE WAR IS OVER, THEN THERE DOES NOT EXIST ANY ELEMENT OF PERSONAL ILL-WILL AMONG EACH. DURING THE PERIOD OF WAR, ONE SOLDIER INSTANTLY SHOOTS THE OTHER OUT OF PROFESSIONAL COMPULSION.THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT OF ALL THE WARS .THIS VIDEO SHOWS BOTH BRITISH SOLDIERS/OFFICERS BEHAVING WITH ONE ANOTHER IN AN EXCEPTIINALLY COURTEOUS , AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER. NO PERSONAL RANCOUR OR GRUDGE WITH ONE AND ANOTHER. BEING PROFESSIONAL OFFICERS , THEY ARE UNDER AN OFFICIAL OBLIGATION TO PERFORM THE SPECIFIED DUTIES . THE FULL CREDIT GOES TO THE BRITISH OFFICERS TO FULLY ADHERE TO THE CONCEPT OF EQUALLITY AND TREATING THE ADVERSARY WITH AN ELEMENT OF HONOUR. PERHAPS, DURING THE RELEVENT TIME THERE WAS NO INSTRUMENT AVAILABE WHICH COULD HAVE RECORDED THE PROFESSIONAL CONVERSATION AMONGEST THE BRITISH AND GERMAN OFFICERS. STRANGELY AND CO-INCIDENTLY ALL THE SOLDIERS ARE WEARING LONGCOATS.PERSONAL WORD OF GRATITUDE GOES IN FAVOUR OF THIS CHANNEL WHICH IS DISHING OUT MARVELLOUS AND AUTHENTICALLY WELL RECORDED MOMENTS OF SECOND WORLD WAR. THANKS VERY MUCH.
Not always, in the East it was
the opposite, that is understandable...
Okay mate but why are you screaming?
Excellent. That must be Luneberg Heath. The Germans were so smart their uniforms contrast with Monty's battledress. But he was the winner so could afford to smile a little. Proper salutes, none of this Nazi stuff by then I see.
Yes all except their driver ,who no doubt it never crossed his mind 💁♂️
Fuggers killed millions of women children and non-combatants
I would have cap’d their nazty arses
You mean the very old European nations salute? History lesson required for you, sunshine.
The Wermacht had to be forced to do the Hitler salute after the failed assassination attempt of July 20, 1945. They didnt want to do it in the 1st place.
Yeah, at the beginning a German officers gives a salute and the NAZI salute to other Germans then quickly looks around..."hope no one saw that!" lol
No more brother wars.
Heavy coats in May. A cold Spring that year.
Definitely a bad month for the Germans.
Cold Spring sounds like Midwest spring in US, especially Chicago and Great Lakes area.
At that point ..as Patton said,we should rearm the German army ,turn it east and put the Russians out of Europe and back into their wilderness…🏴💂♀️
And he was right ; not the russians but communism
Then watched all our troops die as the Russians pushed us back to the channel!
NOOO WE NEEDED THE RUSSIANS...SEE HOW THEY TOOK BERLIN AWAY FROM HITLER.../THEY LOST 30 MIL SOLDIERS...GB RUSSIA
@@tomortale2333 Of course , but why did they lose so many people ? Who destroyed the red army before the german invasion ?
Payton was so right about this , the British and American forces with what was left of the Wehrmacht as a fighting force would have been formidable against the Russians
Looks like a big Scotsman at the start ....Asking where is the nearest pub no doubt.....
I wonder if the British officers were surrendering to the German's they would have been shown the same respect i don't think so
British were more civilized mentally than german
Eh, probably would have been to be honest. The Germans treated British soldiers well.
77 years ago and you still belive in propaganda. Very sad. I presume you have never been in our country, had never longer conversations with German aborigines like me, etc.
@@Dryhten1801 except the at least 2 occasion in 1940 when rear guard British troops were captured and executed by SS troops.. about 200 in total. and that was when the Germans were winning!
@@Dryhten1801 your knowledge of history is lacking my friend
The world we all live in today is the result of the Allied victory and the defeat of the German people in 1945.
Everyone may make up their own mind about what I mean by that...
Seems like a simple thing to make peace re arm sit back and let the Germans eventually invade Russia and let them both bleed each other dry seems like common sense really
And the result of WW1
@@46FreddieMercury91 I absolut agree, both wars were turnings points in our history !
Not the German people but the German Nazis....
Read about how the American élite through their top men running W. Germany saw to it that their counterparts who'd set up and funded (and profited from) the Nazi regime and its slave labour machine got off scot-free and kept their assets, while the British found themselves bankrupted and dictated to by their U.S. ally under the terms of a long-term bailout loan: the post-war trials and hangings amounted to a token setting of accounts (many of the seriously-guilty [of murders] were soon out of prison after their life-sentences were abbreviated in the early '50s.
Imagine what the world would be like today if peace was made in 1939 British empire had 70 percent of the world’s oil and didn’t realize it they would really be a superpower and still have the empire 🤷♂️
The second world war was the end of the first world war . The treaty was a big mistake .
Be nice if we had a narrative or subtle.
Check out the mirroring going off here
This looks like the surrender at Lüneburg Heath…..
It is.
Monty was not impressed he knew what they stood for ??
I wonder why don’t they use normal effects instead of black and white on their smartphones
The respect was mis-placed - these generals are being treated like royalty by bowing and scraping British officers.
Ich erkenne diese Leute nicht mehr.
Operación Impensable in the making
Addirittura da Montgomery!
Simpatico, l'inglese con gli occhiali.
Je constate que certains officiers allemands salut avec le salut hitlériens……… même battus …… incroyable mais je ne sais pas si Hitler était déjà mort ………
But the war have not ease the hatred for one another.I met a Briton and when I introduced my name card to him,he told me off!!! I don't like & deal with Germans & he tore up my name card.Very rude gesture.
Just put it down to " English humour "! After all, just accept you are the vanquished. ...You sure that's not a made-up story by the way?
There's always those who believe in "blood guilt," holding future generations guilty for what happened in the past.
I can tell you for certain there's a lot of admiration for Germany in the UK, no one person defines an entire nations perception of another. Respect from GB. 🙂
Apart from Hitler, we have a lot in common with our German friends
German were very Snappy !
Proszę jakie obrazki wszyscy zachowują się jak starzy dobrzy przyjaciele zamiast tych hitlerowców powinni z miejsca rozstrzelać
The Commonwealth tried to fight an honourable war, not random murdering of prisoners
Yes, we know Poles and Czech can be pretty cruel and killing indifferently in revenge.
@@Hauke69 They (Czechs, Poles, Slovaks etc.) had many more entirely justifiable grounds to hold grudges, resentment & reasons to avenge themselves against the Germans. They had lost countless millions of their butchered fellow-compatriots & the Nazis had already invaded & occupied their respective countries by then for the previous five or six years!
The antipathy would have been present to somee degree natirally, they are just showing manners.
@@theoraclerules5056 countless millions?
I wonder how many of these english would of fought the Germans if they knew how Not so great britain would end up!!!!!
If you're referring to Britain's structural decline, that can be traced back to the 1890s, when Germany and the USA became industrial powers and began investing in futuristic industries while Britain continued to depend on the textile industry. World War Two just showed that the British Empire was a paper tiger as Britain was unable to defend it, as shown very amply by the Ceylon raid and the retreat of the Royal navy from the pacific.
At 1:45 a (junior?) officer gives a Nazi salute. Perhaps old habits died hard in that man but I hope the habit was stamped on very quickly, and that German officers were told in no uncertain terms that such displays were not acceptable.
be quiet fool
Old habits die hard!!
@@shirleybalinski4535
I think he is actually pointing to the rear of the car - the other officer at the back on the right collects what looks like a file.
Definitely pointing at sth.
@@Wotsitorlabart He might be but the officer walking into the picture from the left at 1:21 and 1:24 definitely gives the fascist salute
Did these German officers ever get their hands dirty?
Could say the same about the British tbh
136 German generals died in WW2.
@@ahmadmorsy1561 Well, I didn't know about the second, but in the first world war you were more likely to die as an officer than a soldier.
Most of Germans were Educated People and spoke English.
Yet, committed the most Heinous crimes, humanity has ever experienced.....There must have been something wrong with the German education system, at time.....!!!!
Britain and Germany were practically cousins until WW1.
Montgomery was a dilettante for an officer. Never won anything without a desicive anvantage in material and troops. Any granny from a market square would have accomplished the same, with similar odds given.
that’s how you win with better training more material fire power and planning jussi raty put your brain in gear just saying
@@keithmoore5224 yes, if a general happens to be on the side with infinitely better resources. But the world history is still filled with examples of military genius beating the odds.
(No need for personal insults, so won't give you ones, have a nice day, if possible.)
extremely naive. Monty was a personally courageous soldier who'd been severely wounded in ww1 and lain in No Man's Land all day until his men could rescue him after dark ( by his own orders not to risk themselves in the light ) .. he knew how to train and prepare troops and to use their advantages. the Allied troops were not fanatics like the Axis or eager to throw their lives away for a madman. he knew that in 6 years UK could not afford to take the losses the newly arrived Americans could afford, or the sort of butcher's bill the Soviet commanders expected... there is no point winning a war if all your troops are dead
@@coling3957 Not questioning his personal courage, his leadership on the other hand was stuff like Op Market Garden....
(And, understand the need to have british tales of heroism, though the americans and russians made all the difference, not UK or France. )
@@alasdairmmorrison74 You're right in that, but the cold war proved which two were the real superpowers. And, dritte reich would have been a real handfull for UK without US providing the industrial capacity and USSR the manpower. Germans still outproduced the brits clearly in 1944, but that made no difference because US outproduces all. In 42, the gap was even greater.
Sure they were chummy, the English were referred to as Gentlemen Nazis after all.
WTF are you talking about??
@@freebornjohn2687 Let me rephrase, the upper crust English the aristocracy were deeply aligned with the Nazis a lot of this was through bloodlines,the likes of Sir Arnold Wilson MP Lord Mkount Temple, Sir John Simon, yes and even Winston Churchill wrote laudatory remarks about Hitler ther are so many Lords, Ladies, Dukes and Earles and last but not least the former king Edward Vlll. simply said the down to earth bloke was not, still that saying was used whether people like it or not. Yours a Freeborn man of the traveling people
@@freebornjohn2687 Irish at a guess. At the same time these events were taking place the Irish government was scuttling to the German embassy to sign the condolence book marking Hitler's suicide.
potato eater
@@glynnwright1699 Ireland's neutrality didn't help it their relationships with the US and Europe after the war.
Many dead to be friends at the end ,,,