How Strong is an Epoxy Table?
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People often ask what will happen if someone leans on the corner of an epoxy table. Or what if someone sits on one side? At what point will the epoxy break from the wood? So I finally decided to find out how strong an epoxy table is. First with sacks of concrete, then we had to get a little medieval with it. Let me know what you think of this in the comments!
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0:00 Intro
0:48 Building the Epoxy Table
2:55 Building The Legs
4:32 Strength Test One
7:35 Strength Test Two
9:31 Strength Test Three
11:12 Money Shot
12:15 Recap
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Thank the people who made the epoxy, but not those poor Home Depot associates that had to re-stock all that concrete? LOL
I restocked it myself. I’m not a monster
Qqazz
Oh u a beast. Sipping tequila and watching those muscles tweak😏🍎
@@BlacktailStudio Nicely Done.
Well Home Depot did ultimately get a free shout out from this and as of my watching the video has 1.38 million views! Quickcrete and Home Depot might even owe Blacktail a little something for all this free advertising!
“If you are wondering how you rent a concrete sack, you buy it and then drive it back a few hours later” had me cracking up lol.
That’s the move!
Yes, I was wondering what you say at the store: “I’m so sorry I bought these 25 sacks in error as a tube of Polyfilla is really all I needed.” 🤣
"These didn't include the water to mix. I would like to return them!"
@@davidmanger5193 Tell them you bought a yard of wet mix instead
Imagine the table breaks and all the concrete sack opens up. Instead of renting them now you'll end up buying them all. 😄😄
After watching the video advert i was still skeptical. But when i finally downloaded the plans th-cam.com/users/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG i was very impressed. The whole plan was just as you said in the video. Thank you very much. I now have a large and valuable collection for my woodworks. This is great!
Phil. I actually thought it would only break inside the resin. I thought that would be the weak point. This was a very cool, educational video and I'm happy that you got a lot of help and had fun making it. Thanks!
Resin is a base for the new home furniture materials that fall in the super thin super tough category, for table tops, so it actually is more durable than almost anything else (with brittleness in mind it is probably tougher than quartz?). I did not know until I had to furnish my home with Kronospan, Arpa etc. New tech is 'electron beam cured' whatever that means.
The clear epoxy on the live edge is another level!! Really shows off the natural beauty of the timber.
Since you're making tables out of 'broken' wood, you should take the pieces and pour a different coloured epoxy on them to make a new table, a 'table table' if you will :D
Uhmmmm yes.... That'd be sick!
And it's got a cool story behind it!
Something like those Japanese ceramics with the cracks filled with gold would look awesome
Then break it again and repeat xD
Came to the comments to say the same thing
Moral of the story: Never hang pointed logs above the furniture.
You’re the only one who got what I was saying
thanks for the warning, i'm gonna take off the one hanging above my coffee table right now !
No, never thats for sure 😁
@@RickieBeubie How dare you!!! I’ll never remove my suspended furniture testing logs. How else would I know my toddler that climes on it all the time is safe??? He bangs the top of his head and feels nothing but safe.
@@BlacktailStudio how dare you assume that? Sometimes logs above tables help my now claiming toddler feel safe on such tables. Please don’t reach out to child protective services, they agree with me... very bad joke...
This was a really fun video! I know I'm late, but I'm "binge" watching some of your videos because they are very entertaining to me and I love to see the finished products. Thanks for all the time you spend creating this awesome content :D
Phil was definitely working it.
And to be honest, I really liked the look of what you had as the underside of the table top. I know this was very roughly built, but I love the deep, large, multiple cavities with a clear that allows you to see the wood inside.
Phil, so I’m waiting to see part 2 when you glue the table back together .... and have it as a give away prize. :)
I should!
Great Idea! !
I'm down with taking it and reporting back on how well it holds up!!!
Edit: Phil - just in case I have a chance
I would happily use and abuse it in my workshop and let you know how she holds up
Don't glue it, make a river-river table. With black resin...
This is one of those things that I never thought I would have wanted to see, but now that I have, my life is near complete.
😂😂😂
Phil, great video and I'm as surprised as anyone at just how strong that epoxy bond is. 2000 pounds without even bowing at all is pretty amazing. Thanks for sharing the video. Everyone likes to break stuff now and then.
Phil, you should take the broken pieces of that table to make a slightly bigger table with black epoxy. It'd be a great story piece too. Love your videos btw.
For sure
double the weight for every 2 feet of fall for the first several feet. (600 pound log falls 2.5 feet = 1500 pounds or 1800 if 3 feet) Plus it is impacting in a small area so the net PSI would by hundreds of times higher.
Indubitably.
This was totally a zero to 100 approach.
I don’t think his point was “can this take the weight”
He knew it would break, but wanted to show that the weak bit isn’t the epoxy or the bond. No point faffing about dropping stuff on it to show it doesn’t break.
@@paulshuttleworth6261 I agree. The point of the experiment was to show the strength of the epoxy itself. It was something I was wondering about too.
Also a 'shock load' will be at least 2.5 times the calculated static load per square inch.
Phil's the man! The 1st thing I noticed was that the table snapped along the grain of the wood. The epoxy itself was still adhering to the wood. Nice work! I really appreciate your effort to maintain a complete transparency. Good on you. Cheers from TO!
The bond between epoxy and a material can be stronger than the material itself.
Relashionship goals
Phil, Now put the three pieces back together with gold-colored epoxy, Kintsugi style :)
Or even gold meta flakes
Watching your videos has inspired me to attempt to build my first epoxy table. I love your videos. The detail you give in your videos, provides great instructions on how to minimize mistakes.
Great video Phil! I never would have guessed it could hold that much weight. Thanks for sharing this
Love your continuity... Love your narrations...
Really worth seeing, listening... Stay Blessed... Became a worthy fan of yours, just after viewing 2-3 uploads... Felt your sincerity in the work
Phil.
This guy is nowhere near my dad’s age but I like watching this dude in his work shop... Really good content and it’s relaxing.
Use to watch my dad work on his projects, happy memories.
Much appreciated 😊
Phil: (hovering over the table)
Table: “C’Mon! I’m here! Kill me! Do it! Do it NOWWW!”
😂😂😂 that made me laugh pretty good
Get to the chopper!!!!
It took me a sec to get what you are quoting, one of the best movies ever!!!! :)
Phil is theman! thank you!
Cheers lads means alot
Phil, that was an incredible test.
Thanks for showing us.
Phil, surprised how strong this was. Already subscribed, weeks ago; not a woodworker, love to see your creations; do enjoy your calm voice, relaxing.
Thanks Hans!
Phil, I thought the epoxy would break especially with the log sharpened to a point... but I am surprised the wood epoxy bond was so strong!
Thanks for taking the time to show us how durable some epoxies are.
Should have started drops at a much lower weight. Of course it broke with that, it was overkill
For testing flex on epoxy you really need to test in warm weather, perhaps for an outside table after the slab has been in the sun all day. Resins are a lot less ridged when heated.
I agree with you about the flex but I feel like when you're adding a couple of thousand pounds of weight those sort of differences probably don't matter.
Phil, these videos are still great from over a year ago! I enjoy your channel very much.
Just recently found your channel and love the work you do. I'm not sure if this has already been brought up, but I would've liked to see an impact test that was in between static weight and a massive log hammer. Like maybe using a large sledge hammer to test the impact resistance and not just the static strength.
Rented 25 sacks of concrete...
That was classic!
I'm REALLY not surprised the "Log hammer" broke it, Phil. I AM quite surprised that the epoxy didn't shatter though.
I've always thought of epoxy as primarily a glue for holding the loadbearing bit's together, rather than it being used as part of the structure. I assumed that without glass fibre, Kevlar or carbon fibre in the resin it would be brittle as glass This video's started me pondering about a couple of situations where having a STRUCTURAL, yet pourable material to fill a irregular voids could have certain benefits.
Thanks for making this video. It was entertaining AND informative.
One of the best videos ever on youtube. Thank you so much for this fantastic video guys. I learned a lot. Appreciate that.
Thank you for this video. I have been trying to figure out a cutting jig for a complex shape and was worried if epoxy would hold up to the force of clamping it. Now that I see how strong this is, I don't have any doubts that it will be fine to clamp in the bandsaw.
The last test also reminded me of your TH-cam content brethren over at 'How Ridiculous', dropping items off a 40m tower down in Australia to observe the destructive results.
While I am not into woodworking, I find your builds to be a satisfying watch to relax the brain.
Phil, since you have spoken in several videos of sealing vs not sealing the edges that come into contact with the epoxy, it would be a great idea to strength test both ways.
This answers the question I was having at this very moment, is my epoxy “river” too wide to be strong enough to hold the slabs together. Thanks for doing the experiment!!
Phil. That was awesome! I work with stone and the adhesives we use reacts the same way. Your videos have been very informative. I do some hobby wood working and have wanted to try working with epoxy. Thanks!
Phil, I think this is a cool idea and just shows how strong the epoxy wood bond is. I think it would be cool to see more "torture tests" on some tables.
Phil, that troll of the week is epic.
Love your channel, and your honesty about products and the way you test them is refreshing. Especially on a platform where others will promote the first company that sponsors them.
That was a great test, I’m impressed with it. I certainly would be ok with an epoxy table. Thank you.
I am a new subscriber and I have noticed in the few videos you post you talk a lot of course and I enjoy that, and meanwhile you drop a few tips from time to time. They all can be very useful to people that are interested. I suggest you make videos from time to time about tips and other about tutorials (I think you mentioned you did this one though like how to make leakless molds). And please carry on!
Lot of love from Casablanca, Morocco 🇲🇦
Phil- I didn’t expect the epoxy to be that strong. How does it hold up to the elements like high heat and humidity? Another great video, thanks!
Different epoxies have different applications. Some are UV resistant; some are heat resistant or heat transfer optimized; some are extra strong or brittle. Different mixtures & additives can change the properties of epoxies :)
@@aliensarefromspace Geee, tanks, Perfesser Poxy. (Smart-ass space aliens with their giant heads think they're SOOO smart)
great question, I was wondering if we could use one of these as the world's most beautiful patio table. Maybe something like a blue epoxy with swirls to look like water would make a very nice outdoor patio table.
Phil: this was awesome! As a carpenter most of my life I really appreciate the quality of your work! I truly enjoy your videos and am thinking of trying a table for my home. Do you have a link for your table leg guy, he does some awesome work as well!!
This is a fantastic video. Something I can show to costumers in the future.
Thank you for making it!
Phil!! :-) GREAT tests! I am looking forward into starting to build things incorporating epoxy.
Great testing process. All previous loads applied the load over 48” ie 1700 lbs over the table length making the load only about 50 lbs per square inch
The pointed log was a massive striking the table with a static load of 840 lbs on 1 square inch.
I am totally impresssd with the epoxy bond and strength
Joe Peace
Retired Test Engineer
Phil seems like he loves the This American Life shout-out like I do.
First heard it on NPR channel surfing and was blown away to hear something that interesting among the music/ads
Phil....
Your reply to 'Troll of the Week' gave me a chuckle. What some persons fail to appreciate is that some people who are artists find particular delight in the natural characteristics of their chosen material. Their appreciation for their medium may be such that they choose to modify it only minimally and thus allow its own natural beauty to be highlighted. This appears to be the approach you take most of the time.
Additionally, as you share your learning experiences, you frequently acknowledge limits with your current ability. That's an honest statement. It does not mean that you have no intention of branching out to other types of woodworking or carpentry. Or, whatever. However, the time at which you choose to do so is your choice alone. It does not mean that your efforts now or your skills are being wasted.
A.person may say that this particular method of bonding wood with epoxy is 'overdone'. But thet may be a narrow view as there will never, ever be two finished pieces that are the same. Because the wood itself is never the same from peoject to project. Even when the species is the same between to identical plans this remains true. Each piece will have its own unique appeal 'to someone, somewhere' After all, why would there be so much interest in your efforts, your channel, and educatiion offers if the technique was 'overdone'?
To illustrate. Many chefs or cooks have concluded after much training and experience that the best approach to achieve the best meal, is to start with the absolute best product You (not someone else) can afford. Then "don't mess with it" excessively. Let its own natural characteristics be elevated. This is actually difficult for some people to learn. They find it hard to know when to draw a line. Its possible this may indicate insecurity or inexperience on their own part. Who knows?
So keep doing what you enjoy. And keep sharing because "there is more happiness in giving than receiving". Commenters, myself included, do not live with you. And cannot live for you. Words without positive intent can and should disappear like fog in the heat of the sun.
I've always wondered this about the epoxy tables...and thanks for doing this.
Certainly should be a very helpful sales tool for you....
Phil: So sad to see that beautiful table broken, it would have looked better and had a longer life in my dining or living room. 🙃
Edit. Send the next table you want to test to “Demolition Ranch,” for them to test it against different caliber weapons. Might be a great video (advertising wise) as Matt has millions of subs and views for every video.
Phil: IMO, fill in the crack with a red tinted clear epoxy, adding ~ 8 inches to the width (with the pieces laid out as you showed it in the end of the video. It would look pretty cool as a table.
Phil....Great video with very interesting content. I am amazed at the strength of the glass!!!
Phil- amusing, but not what I want to see more of. I think you're a great craftsman and that's what I enjoy watching, how things come together. I also enjoy your sense of humor.
I’ve been waiting for this!!!
How’d I do??
“You should re-evaluate who’s coming to your parties”
Nice
👊👊
❤️ Phil - I really liked the look of that table ( clear w/ the dark wood) before you broke it❣️
Incredible ! I had no idea epoxy to wood bond was that strong ! Thank u for the experiment!
Hi Phil, really like the results I see with using epoxy but it also bothers me to turn a nice piece of wood into compound material which at the end of life will be residual waste. How do you think about this?
Phil, love watching your work, but troll of the week is becoming my favourite part of the video
I found the same thing when I was making scarf joints for a sailboat mast. I did a strength test (which basically involved a sledge hammer) on a 12:1 scarf joint bonded with west systems and wood flour on a basic pine 2x6 and there was only about a square centimeter of exposed epoxy afterwards. All the rest of it was broken wood. Fun stuff.
That was crazy. I would never have believed this would hold up that well!
Thank you for this video. I used to work for a countertop place and I learned that granite has to be evenly supported when installed and even in transport. So I wanted to know if epoxy tables are strong like plywood or strong like granite lol. Once upon a time I told a new guy at work that the granite splash will crack if you just look at it wrong, and we looked at a piece and it cracked just as i said that . it was sitting on a carpet covered rack made specifically made to transport granite. That was a bit off subject but w/e. its going to break, lol i knew it was going to break.
I just went to goby walnut today and it was awesome I got a lot of little slabs
Oh awesome!
Very cool. Thank you for sharing. Results were surprising.
Shouting out from South Africa.. Phil, I love your video man very informative, this really reveals how ideal epoxy tables are.. keep up the great work!!!
Phil, I am amazed that the epoxy didn’t break. Just goes to show that the tables you make are made with the best products.
It would have been cool to see more impact tests with light objects prior to the 800 lb oak log. Maybe start out with a bowling ball dropped from 10 feet and work your way up.
This was amazing really cool to watch keep up the good work 👍
Wow! I'm sold! Yes, love Audible books, have a ton.
Phil is a genius! I think I would like to see how "tough" an epoxy table is. How much wear and tear can it take? What if you had hit it in the middle with a 20 pound sledge hammer? Or dropped a cinder block on it from a second story window? Or taken a boiling pot of water and set it on it without a trivet? Or dropped it off the end of a truck onto some concrete steps or a curb? These are all more likely scenarios that could happen to the table than dropping an 850 pound oak log on it. Sounds like the basis for a sequel to me. :)
Phil. So, reading the other comments about reconstruction of the table with contrasting epoxy has me anxious to see see it done. I say go for it. That or more tribal arm bands, tough decision. 🤔
All in
I have watch more than my share of videos, this is definitely one of the most enjoyable.
This answered so m my many questions. I’m impressed
Phil - I'm a bit late to this, but if you still have the three pieces lying around in the shop, you gotta make a new table out of it. Would be even cooler if you could use a piece from the log that broke it too, but I'm 100% sure you won't have that lying around haha.
This was really interesting. I often wonder about the performance and longevity of some of these new fangled techniques, compared to just plain old wood by itself which we know for sure can last a very long time. So this was cool. Also, I completely support your transition to 100% tribal arm band production 😂😂😂
your effort you put in this video is inspiring
All my doubts about epoxy bonding with wood is now clear....
Thanks bro...
Is super clear epoxy weather proof and how long does it last out doors! Your work is super inspiring and looks awesome to do
I love he hearted your comment without replying
Phil, do you think the two previous tests could have also weakened the wood, even though the epoxy never really broke?
Oh, my God! this test is insane and one of a kind.
Love your videos very knowledgeable
And very educating work you do is amazing
Now I want to see you salvage this table. Put it back together. ;)
Oh ya!
Phil. My only thought is, you usually mill it back down to the wood surface. With that being said do you think that sheet of epoxy on either side would add more strength then your usual table. (Ik I'm about a year late haha love the videos though!)
Exactly what I was thinking
I, too, was thinking the same thing. I think it would have failed much sooner with the cement bags if you had planed the surface back to the wood on both sides. the epoxy would have only been attached to the edges of the wood along with any anchor points that could have seeped into the wood but cant imagine going very deep into the wood. The wood would have failed from the stress load. In your test, the wood was completely encased in epoxy similar to rebar reinforced concrete. The epoxy in the "river" portion of the table is being reinforced by the epoxy all through out the table.
had wondered about this..very informative indeed..thanx.
Phil made it happen! VERY informative video thanks SAM !!!!
Phil says, “now put those pieces back together with a signature deep black river.
Oh ya!
Well now you can re-epoxy it back to one piece if you wanted 😉
Phil
I was impressed with the strength of the epoxy
Beautiful idea and very instructive
Aw, I was hoping someone would have put together a look at the forces involved between the resting 2k lbs and the falling 840 lbs. Gonna have to pull out my high school physics notes...
I was wondering about the strength and this video popped up!🤣
TH-cam knows me!
That was my favorite table top you have made so far,
Tanks to the video!! You work is great!
Phil: I'm looking forward to the rude comment and your funny reply at the end. That's satisfying for me as well
😂😂
Would make a great table with a story behind it.
Aye, one of my favourite parts of the vids 😁
Start the next trend: epoxy table broken and epoxied back together 🤣
Right?
Had this same idea 🤣
Kintsugi ?? Use gold epoxy for the repair !
Phil: awesome video. I love the science side of creativity too.
I especially enjoy adjusting the safety ski cap before release!
Phil. When you realise that the background at 7:56 is a giant log...haha...makes what they put on there look like a joke!
Right??
Phil, I already have audible. You should repair the table using a blood red filler for epoxy. Would look bad ass
You really did this so we could go to sleep when we build epoxy products. Thank you😊
I love your projects!