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- Asmongold Reacts to The Streamer Who Faked A Disability For Donations
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The funniest part is that Asmon is right, you don't have to be fully disabled to need a wheelchair. You still need one if you can only walk like 20 steps at a time before needing rest. He totally could have played it off lmao
exactly, my friend's dad is like this: in a wheelchair but he can still kinda walk. First time i saw him walk though, i thought he was like the ultimate scammer "ey werent you in a wheelchair mistah"
yea, i smashed my lower back up 5 years ago after a nasty fall at work. i can walk about 20mtrs before the pain becomes too much. so i use a wheel chair when i go out. but i can still walk round the house fairly easily. i also cant stand in one place for too long. my legs just give way.
@@olfan92 Who said that wheelchairs cant be comfy :D
@@aligmal5031 yeah there was more to this than this video, i used to be like yeah fk this scammer but then you find out he was in an accident and actually needed the wheelchair. still a little scummy when he lied about being confined to a wheelchair making it seem he couldint use his legs at all. Goes to show you cant lie forever.
@@olfan92 i dont personally. i got very nice comfy office chair that heats up and vibrates.
He could have just as easily said, "I wanted to show you guys this as a surprise, but here it is, thanks to your donations, I went to physiotherapy, after months of hard work, I can finally walk again."
And then sang a song about it
@@cmoney163 Like Steven Universe.
lol true
@@cmoney163 LOL
@cmoney1634 apolo gifted you with incredible foresight on the "song apology" front
He absolutely could've played it off, man. I have spinal arthritis and occasionally use a wheelchair on days where I can't stand, but other days I can walk around fairly well. Asmon's 100% on the money there, there's a million excuses that could've been made if he just used his brain.
@@ExarchGaming The dude never tripped, and there was no cat or dog. After watching this i cant understand how you couldnt see the bullshit the dude used as an excuse after the fact he just got out of his chair to do something lol
@@Paztacos Bullshit.
@@dr_feelgood1902 You have full access to the internet. Look it up. He had an interview where he explained that he didn't need the wheelchair and he was just scared to tell people because he thought he would lose followers.
@@Paztacos And you believed him? What a sucker.
@paztacos lmao you can literally see him get up and walk away, wtf do you mean "proven to have actually fallen". Hilarious how you fell for his bs.
I love how Zack is the villain turned hero when it comes to scammers
That's the biggest scam of all mwahahhahaha
He is still a scammer, just a very eloquent one.
@@JankieHands jealousy is a bitch.
@@JankieHands no one said that his stream is a scam, dumbo.
@@IndicatedGoodLife he’s not a scammer, people who spend money on free entertainment are scamming themselves
"Did some squats tonight, my thighs are on fire!" That shit was so fucking funny
There was a controversy here when bouncer threw out a disabled person in wheelchair because in the club they walked around. A lot of people think wheelchair means person cannot WALK at all, but a lot of people can walk short distances. Dude could have very easily spin this.
He might have been able to fool a few people with a good enough excuse, but he would have had anybody who is in a wheelchair but able to walk small distances calling him out. When this first happened I was talking to my friend about it, who frequently uses a wheelchair but is also able to walk small distances. The thing that tipped him off was the guy is sitting in the wheelchair while gaming - he said he couldn't believe someone who is able to walk even a bit would ever do that. The first thing he does when he gets home is fold up his chair and put it next to the door, because getting around in a wheelchair inside a house is just a pain in the ass and you often have to get up anyway (ie to go to the toilet, to reach the sink, to get something from a pantry to eat etc) so the wheelchair just gets in the way rather than helps - plus after spending 8+ hours in that chair while he was out, he doesn't want to sit in it for even longer and would rather sit in a proper chair.
@@StreakyBaconMan Possible. I think what happened is he was fully disabled and unable to walk when he started streaming. As he started to get better he had to choose between keeping the money he was getting and play along, or be transparent about his improvement. His disability was probably just too important of a factor in his streams popularity, and he was too dependent on the money he was making.
@@blackfalcon1324 The sad thing is people love a happy ending, if that was true and he had just updated his community about his improvements I am sure they would have been stoked and very happy for him, not been like "well I only watched this guy because he was disabled, if he's not going to need the wheelchair anymore I am unsubscribing!".
Agreed. Fear and such appear to have turned this into a bad direction. @@StreakyBaconMan
Zilian just needs to make steps in the right direction now.
Keep going, one foot in front of the other.
Stand tall and refuse to lose his footing.
Walk off the insults and kick into high gear.
idk, i think he stepped over the line
very good you desrve a standing ovation
No, he just needed to stand up for himself
He matched towards his goals no matter the method
Like Jonny cash said -He walks the line
“Please stop DDosing my legs” lmao
:)
Personally, as a disabled person who can't even wipe my own ass when I take a shit, I can comfortably say under no circumstances would I use my disability to ever garner donations on a place such as a stream where I show my face and play games. My disability makes me far too pissed off to even want people publicly knowing every detail of my conditions and/or financial situation to which they may feel bad for me, only people I truly trust would hear that vulnerable side of me.
I'm 38. I've literally never thought to do this. Probably because I have self respect.
Facts. While not in a wheelchair, I do have a disabilities due to being struck by a car when I was 2. I always feel embarrassed talking about my issues, etc. Even my best friends don't know exactly what it entails.
Anyone using their disabilities or mental health as a means to garner attention or donations doesn't actually have em.
@@Imadumbdoodoohead No, I know a Christ-ton of blind people who use their blindness to gain clout and money and it's really fucking sad. I got my name in prison but the way I establish my disabilities is on my front page on my twitch. Eyes. Ears. Lungs. Fibro. Now let's play some fucking games. They're there. It's done. Move on. Easy peasy. Show the able-bodies you're fine with it and they'll be fine with it. Most of the time.
see, there's people like you that actually have a disability and then this streamer that's just pretending and scamming money out of people for caring. that's sad
Yeah I don't know man I've met some pretty shameless people, not everyone has the same morales as you.
I love how Asmon is a scammer coach as a side hustle
it makes me wonder if he really has all those mcdonalds cups in his room
or if he's actually even in a wheelchair
20:00 This fits so good to you Asmon. Wow. What a relief! Hahaha!
i dont love it. i dont like him for that.
I am not defending this guy but let me share my story. I am partially in a wheelchair because I do have some days my legs dont have strength and hurt a lot. I use a power wheen chair in public to get around. HOWEVER at home i can get around a little bit using a cane to walk in the house in short distances.
The way this guy got up and out you can tell it wasnt like this. Most people who even partially use wheel chairs have some hesitancy when standing up.
There are lots of disabilities that don't show up externally but still limit mobility or function. I got sick from the flu and ended up with heart failure. For the most part I get around fine but after 30-45 minutes of walking I need to rest. I still avoid using disabled parking spots because of the looks I get from people. I went to a RenFest with some friends for 3 hours and afterwards I slept for 20 hours. Scammers and fraudsters make life for actually disabled people worse.
Also, he's NEVER stood up on stream before this, or talked about struggling to walk? If I could stand up sometimes I'd probably be like "check this out stream" and try to stand up.
I'm same jumped from a great height shattered both legs and other injuries, I try to walk for 5 min a day, maybe 10 6 months later but I am classed as disabled
@@koolaidjerk to Zilians defence he started streaming without a cam. Moreover he has pictures from his personal facebook that he was in a wheelchair before he actually started streaming. To this day i have also never seen a video from his streams where he specifically tells people "i can't walk".
Also this was at a time where streaming wasn't as popular. Today we know very little about the private lives of streamers, back then it was almost unheard of to know anything personal about a streamer.
It's not even that he didn't hesitate. It's that he didn't brace himself at all. No cane, no crutch, no walker, didn't even hold onto the table. If he was doing physio to try and get out of the chair, he would have had some kind of aid to help him stand and be safe whilst standing.
Its like this study about Cognitive Dissonance I read a long time ago.
They paid one group of people 1 dollar to watch an hour long video about some crappy product and then told the people to tell other people about how great the product was. Basically "now go lie to everyone and sell them this product"
They paid another group of people 50 dollars to watch the same video and tell a group of people about how great the product was. "Go sell this crap" just like the first group.
Afterwards, they questioned the study participants on their personal feelings toward the product. The people who only got paid a dollar had way more positive feelings than the people who got paid 50 dollars.
Basically the point is that since they only got paid 1 dollar for a few hours work they had convinced themselves that it was actually a good product. They didn't want to admit that had wasted time AND lied to everyone for ONE DOLLAR
People who got paid 50 dollars had the opinion of "ehh whatever, it's crap but reason I lied and told everyone how great it is is because I got paid 50 bucks to do so"
So basically people will lie to themselves instead of admitting that someone made a fool out of them
Edit:some pretty scary implications politically to this study. If you want someone to go lie for you AND you want the liar to truly believe the lie they are telling, then you want to treat them horribly and pay them next to nothing
i would do the exact opposite lol
Thats.....fkn telling.
Citation please instead of just saying things.
@@Indy_Bendy just look up "1$ vs 20$ cognitive dissonance study" there's lots of examples of it
@@Indy_Bendy just look up 1 dollar vs 20 dollar experiment. Tons of stuff about it
Yo Zilean's story sounds awfully familiar like a Futurama Episode where Bender gets crippled but recovers and starts to pull the cripple con then fucks up live.
“He could of just been like yeah guys..sometimes my legs work and sometimes they don’t.” 😆😆
to be fair, there's some disorders that simply make it incredibly painful to walk around for too long, so they use wheelchairs 90%
of the time but can move for emergencies or to grab something above them out of reach, or to get in and out of beds or the toilet or bath.
He would have been absolutely fine if he just said that he is able to walk without the wheelchair sometimes. It was his own fault for not being smart.
@@DarthZ01 do you think you’re the only one capable of knowing that fact? We know. Take the internet for what it is.
I design a bunch of art for a contest for his channel and he said I lost and fucking stole all of it and used it on his channel. With his goofy ass girlfriend.
What bothers me are people who are *truly disabled, who's physical disabilities have been documented by Physicians Specialists and ER Staff's in two different hospitals* like myself who live under the poverty line, starve for 10 days per month because what disability covers isn't enough to live on.
The system isn't designed for it. Rightly so, it's meant to give you just enough to cover your rent and bills but you get the bare minimum as the Taxpayers pay for us.
Now the challenge is for people like myself who have been seen and wrote paperwork to the Provincial Government saying I will *never be fit to work for the rest of my life* and there should be a class of Disability Benefits wherein people who really are disabled and dying and on Provincial Disability benefits get what closer to what a person makes every two weeks. I don't get even get a 3rd of what an average person makes in two weeks which means I can't afford groceries, I can't afford medications that aren't covered by the Provincial System and I starve for 10 days to 14 days a month because of the high cost of life and I don't live in a big province where rents are 3000$ a month but regardless if a new budget was approved and put in place for people who are actually truly in need which would then have a vetting process where maybe people like this guy would get caught sooner. I don't know. I just know that as grateful as I really am for the assistance I recieve but it sucks to have to starve. It sucks to have to go without medications that I really need and have to rely on a local soup kitchen and the local food bank which gives us food that's already been picked thru and taken by the "paid volunteers" and the stuff we get is basically expired and you can only go every two weeks and what they give you is enough for two meals. Two. That's it.
I truly hate to complain but it should change. I hope it does. Maybe there could be measures put in place to stop scammers as well.
I know people will crucify me in the comments because I'm another disabled guy saying it's not enough but it really isnt. I am grateful for what I get but as I said it's not even a quarter of a bi weekly paycheck and I'm tired of suffering.
Love your reactions Asmond - long time viewer first time poster.
Stay Awesome and Frosty all.
Dude that's fucking criminal to do to our people who can't take care of themselves without help. Idk what country you're in (never heard of Disability how you've described so I'm assuming Canada or the UK - is it still UK post-Brexit? Lol) but I hate to think about how horribly people are treated for not being productive - in case someone rips off the taxpayers.
You know what's worse? The gov rips us off every day. I'd rather pay to take care of people than to kill people. I'm in the US, for context. IDGAF if starving people "steal" my taxes. Or if we have a fraud rate of 2-5%. One of the worst things an allegedly civilized society can do is allow people with disabilities to starve to death because productivity > people. It's really horrifying and I'm sorry that's reality for you.
I've been sick for two weeks and I realized I don't have it in me to have a chronic condition. This is the third or fourth time in my life that I've been put completely down by an illness. It has only happened twice as an adult, both Covid, and the stress of worrying about documentation for work is messing me up more.
The pain, not being able to take care of myself or sit upright, worrying if anything will be permanent and if so, can I handle it work-wise, financially, emotionally, physically? 2 weeks. That's all it takes to break me.
I think you have every right to complain. Your value as a human is not actually determined by what you produce. That's just how we're kept docile - play on shame and laziness - if society points the finger at anyone who can't work, they're not pointing at the however many trillion dollars the Pentagon "lost" magically, or whatever other BS governments do with our tax dollars that they aren't supposed to do.
Please stop ddosing my legs. Holy fuck
that statement sent my sides into orbit, holy fucking shit. Today is the day I kekw'd irl.
27:40 - How is it a HIPPA violation? HIPPA prevents information regarding your health from being distributed without your permission. It doesn't prohibit others from asking you to supply the information. You're free withhold your permission and deny access to your records, but since California is an at will state, Twitch is allowed to fire you for whatever reason, including a denial of access to medical information. HIPPA doesn't apply to Twitch in this case. A HIPPA violation would be if the provider supplied Twitch with the medical records without Zilian's OK.
He for sure could have played it off as being able to move a little bit but still needing the chair most of the time. He could have said that at one point he was totally unable to stand and use his legs but there had been some partial recovery over time to where he was no longer completely immobile. He could even have said that the reason he had never demonstrated this on stream before was because he was worried that if he did walk at all then the trolls would give him a hard time and spread rumours that he was faking his injury.
Twitch can definitely request medical records before they appeal his ban. Companies ask for medical records all the time for different reasons. It's up to the employee if he wants to provide them or not. If he doesn't provide them he doesn't work there. It's not that hard to figure out
that’s illegal lol
@@FrankInkStein What is?
Streamers aren't employees of Twitch - they're treated as independent contractors and technically they work for themselves. Kind of like an uber driver. They couldn't just ask him for medical records any more than you can ask your plumber for his when you hire him to fix your toilet.
@@StreakyBaconMan They absolutely can ask him for his medical records. He is under no obligation to provide them, just like twitch is under no obligation to unban him.
@@blackfalcon1324 I mean sure technically you can ask anybody for their medical records for any reason you want - I just mean that they never would ask for his medical records in the first place because they have no legal entitlement to see them and know they'll just be told no. And it'd be VERY stupid for them to tell independent contractors their ban is dependant on them providing medical records - that's just begging for a lawsuit.
His gamer chair was so powerful it healed his legs
I love how Asmongold went from WoW guru, to Internet survival guide.
"mask off moment" instantly mafe me think of "it was me austin, it was me all along"
I think he probably was in a wheelchair before streaming form some kind a accident, and started streaming in a wheelchair but when it became his thing as the streamer in a wheel chair he was afraid of what would happen to his career after he was fully recover. I remember how you where a few years back about only wanting to stream wow and that if you tried to switch to variety you feared it would ruin what you had.
Being afraid of what game you want to play vs "can I walk or not" is not the same thing.
"The guy didn't really have a choice but to pretend he was still wheelchair bound since, you know, viewers are fickle and he needed those donos to pay rent." WILD.
at least he had a wheely good time.
Him getting out of the chair was HILARIOUS. It looked like a scene from an Adam Sandler movie... 🤦♂️🤦🏾🤦🏼🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿
That Hypno mask off moment was an “It’s me Dio” level reveal
the funny thing is, he could have saved his career. I dont remember what she had, but my girlfriend in high school had a condition that had her wheelchair bound, but she could walk for short moments
oh ZillianOP, this one is a classic, haven't heard from him since 2013... man I'm old 🤣
Yep the good old days, ManVsGame, Kripp playing D3
It's amazing because I grew up with a father who could walk for a certain amount of time before he was not able to anymore. It would have been very believable if he HAD said it at the time instead of keeping silence "for some reason"
That's exactly right. They can ask for it to lift the ban, he doesn't have to comply. If he doesn't, the ban can remain.
It's hilarious to see all the lawyers in chat spam their uneducated opinions as truth. Every single time
They can ask him for the records. If he says no they can't force him. But if he says no, they can just reject the appeal.
The instant "he's smurfing" one liner had me in stitches
Honestly, My mom got hit by a van some years ago and have the same issue she uses a wheelchair to get around like 95% of the time, but once in a while with her pain meds she's able to go a very short distance at home... its possible, but so dumb abusing it.
“Is he walking??”
No he’s floating
Sounds like he's a really stand-up guy.
There are plenty of wheel chair people who can get up to get some things done.
None of them ever spring out of a chair like that.
Its hilarious that he is asking chat when to say the game lol like a parent.
Ever since getting Covid June 1st I’ve struggled to walk distances. I get bad leg pain and out of breath from walking short distances. I can get around my place okay but I can’t navigate a grocery store without the aid of the electric shopping cart. I get looks from people like why’s he using that cart when he walked into the store. I rely on my inhaler if I walk too far.
I LOVE then a story is complete with an arc nemesis and all. Makes it feel like a movie, hero vs villain. :D
This is actually some of the funniest content on YT
edit: "I feel like this guy's a bad decision maker" made me LOL IRL
I can't walk very far due to my dystonia. Some days I can't walk at all. People have looked at me as a faker when getting out of my car on my feet and taking out my wheelchair. It's lowest of low to fake a disability, but people need to realize that many people are partially wheelchair bound.
Omg I never thought of that miracle's stopped when cameras were invented
5:23
He could also used the old classic, "No, guys. That was my twin."
I had a accident and was in a 2heel chair but could still stand now I can walk a fair bit but still use the chair. If this was the case he should have told people and been upfront
Dude was probably in a car crash or something. Needed a wheelchair while his legs healed then just kept going with the facade.
He doesn't believe people after they've lied to him once but he still guzzles blizzards words down with a gallon of hopium
“He doesnt have the wheel to survive” 😂
its not a violation of hippa to state that due to his perceived fraudulent case regarding medical status to have his account reinstated on their privately owned company's platform he would be required to waive his privacy protection rights in regards to the incident in question, because he isn't required to do that, he could also NOT use the platform.
THE WILL TO SURVIVE
Lmao.
I literally have a friend who has a permanent spinal injury which makes his back very fragile. However when he is careful and lets his back heal as much as it can - and he does a pretty grueling regime of fairly painful but controlled exercises, he can sometimes walk as long as he doesn't agitate his spine by making a wrong movement and doesn't lift anything heavy. It takes a lot to keep it up though and he can very easily mess it up especially in sideward movement. My guess is that he spends about 50% of his time in the wheelchair, 20%-ish with a "rollator" and about 30% walking around - at times with very little indication of his injuries. So yeah - if he had been smart this could have been explained away... guess he wasn't 😀
Hypnotical just doesn't let him get away with it LMAO
Me personally I can walk, but not for extended periods of time so in public I have to use my wheelchair. But at home I don't use my wheelchair cuz I mostly just walk from my room to the bathroom or kitchen mostly.
Damn that's shitty man sorry to hear that
@@ajwtube what are ya gonna do, was born with cerebral palsy and have ADHD, as well as arthritis in the knee and hands at late 20’s so it’s just managing with what life threw at you.
@@brennancurrier806 Yep, gotta work with what youre given. Hang in there brutha.
The only people bound to hipaa are employees of health care. The patients could share what ever records they want.
To be fair, there is a lot people with mobility issues that need wheelchair to get around temporarily, i have some issues with my left leg so if i don't take meds for it I have to use crutches to move around
He should have re entered the cameras view like he fell .. pulling himself up
I knew a dude that was always in a wheel chair and one day I stands up. Apparently he could walk a little but need the wheel chair like 99% of the time.
I used to raid with this guy in Firelands Heroic. Kept in touch with him until this shit happened. Wild stuff.
I almost died while eating with this one. Amazing video.
he didnt think ahead, he genuinly believed he would never get caught, so he didnt even feel the need to think about what he'd say if someone saw him walking regularly, he shouldve prepared a good excuse
"wheelies" lol. sometimes my legs work and sometimes they dont. like when I choose to use them vs not.
He could've thank the fishes behind him and he would still convince like 4 people
Hey. That's me! (:
I actually had to use a wheel chair for quite some time in highschool because I had got bad injury’s. I looked mostly fine but had a really hard time getting all the way from class to class after shattering my foot and having other problems before that. Probably could have made something yo
"He is smurfing", I'm dead 😂
“The archnemesis” I’m crying 😂
Twitch can't legally state that he needs to show his med records to get un suspended, but they could say that it would speed up the review process.
However that could give ground for potential lawsuit, so I can understand why Twitch doesn't want to bother with that.
Then again I'm not a lawyer and my understanding is pretty limited, but what I understand from little I know, Hippa is tough thing to walk around
Dude took peter popoffs miracle spring water
Employers definitely can ask for medical documents.. not sure about contractors or whatever.
However if that employer makes public or talks about that medical diagnosis to others, thats a villation.
20:00 This fits so good to you Asmon. Wow. What a relief! Hahaha!
Whatever works, works right, gotta respect tha grindset of this sigma male
he could just say "i was receiving donations cose i was in a wheelchair, thanks to them i can walk now" :)
came for the content, stayed for the eyebrow movements and cuss words... effing awesome
I was literally watching when this happened 😂 It didn’t register at first, then a moment later I was like wtf!
"When I started streaming I needed it like completely. It was my 100% go-to"
24:25
He's just a trailer short from being like Ray from Trailer Park Boys
For the record the commenter that said that this is illegal it would be a HIPPA violation to have twitch require him release his medical records to twitch that is very true it is a HIPPA violation and he would be under no obligation to release those records. They can only be released if required by court or another doctor or another medical profession type situation. Medical records are completely in 100% confidential. I've worked in the field so I do know this to be fact
"It's easier to scam people, than convince them they've been scammed"
What a stand-up guy
Miracles work in mysterious way. There is a clip of a guy in a wheelchair jumping up when they showed the Killer Instinct reboot announcement trailer. These things happen.
I was actually watching the stream that he magically fell up to keep the puppy from eating the pc cables
I have a wheelchair for my MS and a cane and sometimes I need them and sometimes I don’t. But it’s a day by day basis. If he had just been honest and update his fans about his therapy this wouldn’t have happened
He should have lied and say he was in rehab and making slow progress and didn't feel safe trying at home. Not wanting to tell your steam as well.
Pretty sure Twitch can ask to see his medical records. The key phrase here is asking. They don't have to unban him, and he doesn't have to show them his records. It's their platform, and they can ban and unban who they want.
Asmon is a literal sage. A venerable person of sound judgment.
best part is inigomontoya the "2BEEZ" d3 streamer bought his chair after it all went down
Literally said in the vid he got hacked by someone who knew him in real life and then 30 seconds later asmon is like I wonder how he knew 😂😂
I was literally watched him stand up.
imagine seeing something so shocking you walk away from the wheelchair
Asmon, it wouldn't matter whether he denied it. The girl said "OMG" as soon as he got up and then she quickly non-sequitur'd into a dog story, before he panned the camera away from the empty chair, and ended the stream abruptly. Guy was dead in the water after that, ban or no ban.
i was lucky enough to see this happen live
That isn’t a Hippa violation lmao. They can ask the person to ask the doctor. It’s just up to the person if they want to divulge that information.
He's looking at the comments on this video and wondering like damn why didn't I think of that
Lol, this reminds me of the tonka wrestle fiasco a couple years ago
_daddy noooooooo_
amazon didnt own twitch back then so they had decent people onboard. once amazon got twitch ownership, twitch was slowly but surely going downhill.
If I was scamming people I would just know NEVER to stand up in a spot where the camera could possibly see me.
Once a liar always a liar.
Anyway I like how Asmon tells his viewers he loves watching Sunny all the time as if they’re not there with him watching it all the time too.
Only Asmon could stretch an 11 minute video into 31 minutes.
He got hacked so they could have watched him in his webcam
Look at OG! Lol I just had to add that one