They Stole Millions And Thought They Got Away With It | Asmongold Reacts
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- Asmongold watches "They Stole Millions And Thought They Got Away With It". Let's see what happened to the most shameless NFT scammers that thought they weren't going to go to jail...
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Ignorance is absolutely a defense because twitch chat keeps getting away with it
Dammmmm.
FACTS
But for real it was so funny to watch asmon start talking about this and not know what he was talking about, like at all
Ignorance is NEVER a defense against the government, against parents, your girlfriend or a system admin.
Ignorance is ONLY a defense in something that does not matter.
Even more of chat was talking out their ass than usual guess that’s what happens when you bring up law
I will never understand how people can fall for this stuff. NFT's.... It's like those websites that are selling e-books and say buy now because we are almost out of stock.
Incredible
not all NFTs are scams
NFT is basically just art for the most part
Even the FC Liverpool was promoting this on his very popular TH-cam channel. ppl were shocked
@@einfachtoll all nfts are scam *
It's still not a complete victory, but anything that fucks NFT bros is still worth celebrating to me
This will definitely put the brakes on their gravy train
Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Ignorance to a crime being committed is absolutely a defense. You definitely have some glue eaters in chat.
It is sometimes and not others. In many cases you have a duty to know so ignorance will get you in shit. Though the chat was dumb af about what they were saying lol
I agree but in the context for the example he used, if you're a streamer, and you promote something without even looking into it at all because of money you don't get to use ignorance because you were too lazy to do any research. That said who gives a shit none of us are lawyers here.
@@SmugCanadian I don't think it's sane to put people in prison or ruin their lives in other ways because they were "too lazy to do any research". That's such a mild, basic human thing to do.
@@XavionofThera Ah yes but it's perfectly ok for those same people to use ignorance to potentially ruin others lives lmao get real they fully deserve to go in jail and the sooner one or two of them get the book thrown at them the rest will step in line.
@@SmugCanadian It is "fine" (or rather, not prison-worthy) if it's not their intent.
IMO if your intent is slightly bad but has extremely bad consequences - you should only be punished as though you have done something slightly bad.
Just like how we don't punish people for accidental crimes - we shouldn't punish people harshly for crimes of minor negligence.
"Why is your chat dumb?"
I love how Asmon doesn't even fight that claim.
Basically admitted being dumb himself, which I do not disagree with.
Because the chat is dumb.
@@spugelo359 He's wiser then you by a long shot.
@@calmexit6483 Based on what? Assumptions? you dont know that guy, you dont know what he does for a living, you're just as dumb as the chat you shit on.
@@jebalitabb8228 You did now.
Wasn't there a streamer who scammed his watchers into investing a NFT, took the money and admitted to scamming them, and refuse to give back the money?
Ice Poseidon
Coffeezilla covered it
Ice Poseidon is going to prison
@@noobkaka567 is that you hoping he would or has he actually been convicted?
@@c0nc3ntr8d6 That wouldn't really narrow it down. XD
asmon basically babysits his viewers, a bunch of adult looking 5 year olds
Welcome to planet earth, I hope you have a nice stay here.
What do you expect his chat to be when you have streamer exactly like that?
@@pedropedro1 Asmongold is not a character, i've watched for several years at this point and asmongold himself said that he isnt putting on an act or playing a character, the most he has said about that, is that it is a slightly exaggerated version of himself to make things more interesting/exciting.
So many people are very upset that asmon is anti nft. I've yet to hear a good argument for nfts. The most common thing I hear is imagine putting your virtual item into the game you play. That seems like a really stupid and hard to implement reason to buy an nft.
CS go knives are a kind of NFT which I think are pretty good investment as far as NFTs are concerned, I have made a few hundred dollars on them and their value has sustained and even increased in some instances.
Rather than jpegs i can see the tech being used for something like food stamps, restaurant reservation tickets, movie tickets/concert tickets. The technology has uses but APES.
People who sell NFT's are scammers. I don't fucking care. They are snakeoil salesmen, and it is up to them to demonstrate their legitimacy, not for me to assume their legitimacy.
I was looking for more Elden Ring content but this will do
they got 1 shot by the feds it's the same as elder ring content
Can relate
Why does smegma smell like fish and not cheese?
@@Hotmaildotcomz salt (sweat)
Idk if you’ll see more brother, he beat the game a few days ago. Idk if he’ll do that run with McConnell though
Ice didn't get taken advantage of....he was very complicit in theft and pretty much has admitted it.
Ice in prison!
@@noobkaka567 he should
Ice admitting his guilt is going to fuck his ass in the long run. He should've just shut up.
As far as I know, a mistake of fact is a valid defence, a mistake of law is not.
Thank you. Ignorance of law is no defense, but ignorance of fact or circumstance is.
She earned money from promotion a fraudulent business. She can't claim ignorance in that situation. Asmon is just simping.
What Asmongold is talking about is mens rea. Mens rea is the mental aspect of a crime, and often both actus reus and mens rea need to be proved in order to convict someone. In the case of the taxi driver he had the actus rea of ferrying drugs, but he did not have the mens rea for the crime since he knew nothing of it. On the other hand chat is fixed on the idea of ignorance of the law not being a defence, meaning that if you were to smoke pot in the street because you thought it wasn't illegal when in fact it was, then you still go to jail as ignorance of the law is not a defence. They are quite distinct because in the case of the taxi driver they had ignorance (lack of information) on the act which was a crime (transporting drugs) he knew not that he had drugs in his car, wheras in the second example they had the mens rea of the offence as they knew they were smoking weed, but they only were ignorant in so much as they did not know the law, and in that case they have no defence. Chat and asmon are both right as so often is the case.
applied to the scummy influencers peddling NFT's, it's a little grey and it probably comes down to how much they knew about the bogus nature of the claims. At the end of the day if they fully thought and understood that what they were promoting was a legitimate financial instrument then they are going to be fine, but if there is reason to believe that they knew that the claims were bogus then they could be an accessory to wire fraud.
there is strong likelihood that the influencers will have no idea what they are getting into, likely their agents bring them and ad deal, its a seamingly legitimate financial instrument which they have no reason to suspect is bogus, they do the ad they get their money an they forget about the whole project. unless there is a paper trail of some sort to link them to the crime they will all get away with it. Think about if mayweather were to do an ad for BNY bank and then BNY bank were exposed for wire fraud, you wouldnt expect mayweather to go down for it right? same thing here.
Shame that there is no law against being an absolute tool, otherwise jake paul and mayweather would be guilty as charged.
The best part about these clowns getting scammed is they actually think we're the morons for not falling for it with them, one look at all the Subreddits about NFTs and crypto etc... and these people actually think this is a good idea. They fully deserve to lose their money in these schemes, as a fool is easily parted from his money.
greed, I guarantee you that maybe 0.001% of those people actually are in NFT's because of other reason, as much as they want to fool them self and tell in their heads about how much of a angels with good intent they are , they are just lying to them self about their real intent .
It's funny because 99% of these people are trying to flip it for profit to some even bigger idiot. There's even a name for it: Bigger fool theory
I don't feel bad for them but the people running these scams are scumbags that deserve and need to be punished
NFT "projects" that are essentially just about trading tokens, are simply a new spin on the good old pyramid scheme.
Going "Oh I made money with it, how is it a scam?" is ridiculous. All the money you make with it, is money other people (further down the scheme) lose. Its not an investment, there is no value generated with the funds you put into it, you are just playing hot potato with it
Exactly. I came down here to say exactly this.
That money is just made by greater fool theory. Obviously most 'NFT projects' are a scam and you can be part of it without repercussions by selling them on secondary.
That's the Chinese real estate market 😁
Ikr it’s like congratulations if you made some money but the mook you sold it to is just trying to flip it again and returns diminish real fast when trading something that doesn’t generate wealth itself.
@@tulipalll Canada?
Ignorance can be a defense, gross negligence is a different story
I guess the question is when does Ignorance become Negligence?
If you're taking a boat load of money and people are getting robbed. You might want to reconsider your role in the thing.
@@Mimsie exactly, you’re absolutely right.
It's what they can prove in court. You can have all the facts on your side and still be found guilty cuz of a shitty lawyer or a dick judge
@@pixeljauntvr7774 these are different things.
Please dont be like asmons chat
Ignorance of a law does not exclude the law applying yes.
Ignorance of the actual events of a crime going on and you were just a paid advertiser is a perfectly valid defense.
While some laws do still allow you to be charged even if ignorant of the actual crime; a large swathe of laws require some level of intent
@@pixeljauntvr7774 i think people here are arguing to different things. Asmon was arguing, just because you legally bought a knife or a gun for a friend and that friend went and killed people doesn't mean you go to jail for it. Because you couldn't know
here you go from google, "The general rule is that ignorance of the law is not a defense. However, as with many things in the legal realm, there are exceptions to the rule. In limited circumstances, ignorance of the law, or simply not realizing that something is illegal, can be a defense."
He is not saying that ignorance of the law is a free pass but ignorance of the crime being committed depending on the severity of that person‘s involvement can be a pass because of ignorance
@@MTXCraze just putting googles def not saying hes wrong i think hes right
I know this was taken from Google, but men's rea lit. "Guilty mind" or knowing you committed a crime is a key aspect of the law for many things like determining sentencing for crimes. Lots of crimes are still punished without mens rea but tend to have lower sentences like manslaughter (lacking men rea completely) vs murder (requiring some degree of men's rea). Literally the severity of the degree of murder charges depends on the extent of men's rea.
Usually other non murder types of crimes that lack men's rea tends to be some form of negligence charge instead of the crime as well since if you really are in the dark to your culpability or criminality for some crimes, you really either grossly neglected to research the legality of what you were doing or showed a disturbing lack of empathy to other people.
Also not guilty due to insanity charges heavily focus on mens rea as well. The argument being that if a mental illness caused you to commit a crime completely without mens rea than they can't be punished for negligence since they are deemed incapable of the higher form of thought required to acknowledge potential negligence. Also men's rea for the mentally ill is also determined by things like caring if they receive punishment for a crime or trying to cover it up. An insane person might know something is a crime and could fall under that definition of men's rea, but if some mental illness or break makes a person truly not care, commits the crime anyway, and has no thought to try and cover the crime up or try to avoid culpability that's effectively the same as lacking mens rea. I know that was long winded and rambing, but I think it's a fascinating subject.
TL;DR: mens rea "Guilty mind" or knowing your committing a crime is a key aspect of modern law. It is by no means required to find you guilty of crimes, many crimes remain virtually unchanged by mens rea, but many crimes also require proof of mens rea for you to be found guilty, many times lacking mens rea either changes the actual crime you're charged with (and usually with that, the severity of it) or is a big factor in the severity of sentencing for the judge.
Image-based NFTs are 100% garbage. Just watch Josh Strife Hayes' video on them.
My father has been scammed multiple times in crypto currency many times. I've been telling him to not invest into anything until he's done research many times but he doesn't listen to me and gets frustrated cuz of it. Ever since then, I've been blocking many sites that involve trading any sort of crypto currency with no proof of getting anything in return especially the NFTs.
Actually, as someone who worked at a bank, the teller can be held responsible for money laundering simply because they failed to notice that that person had suspicious activity in their account. It was something they made us train for every month on the certification training on the work computers. Not knowing about it is not actually a defense in this case, and I’m thinking if there were funds exchanged between influencers and scammers, than there would be a receipt or contract that was agreed upon and that is 100% the responsibility of the influencer to know who they’re doing business with.
That’s so bullshit that the banks place the liability on individual employees rather than the bank itself.
@@Archy__ It also carries a federal prison sentence, which started being enforced. It was rly scary!
Ignorance is a defense when you are unaware of what you're doing. When you know what you're doing but you don't know that activity is illegal. For instance if you're driving 85 miles an hour but don't know the speed limit is 60 you'll still be in trouble. But if you let a Mormon missionary into your house then later find out he was a wanted criminal you aren't gonna go to jail for harboring a criminal. You literally had no clue you were harboring one. While that other person knew 'hey I'm driving 85mph but I think it's okay".
Allowing a missionary into your home and endorsing a product for monetary gain are not the same.
youre doing well on the NFT exposing.
Ignorance is a defence, it's just not a complete defence. It's taken into consideration with the totality of whatever else is presented.
Sometimes You can be obligated by law to check some things before agreeing to advertise depending on regulations and ignorance can be reason You will be guilty.
Ignorance might be a mitigating circumstance but that’s it
Never thought of the day that I would arrive early to an Asmon video lol.
Love how Asmon is basically a KiraTV reaction channel now. Love it.
this is what reaction channels should be about. KiraTV, SunnyV2, Josh Strife Hays and many others got a huge boost from him. They are all amazing creatora that deserve the shout out, and Asmon does a great job with it.
The "Ignorance of the law is not a defense" thing gets completely misunderstood- it means that if you know what you were doing, you can't claim that you didn't know it was illegal. It does not mean that if the activity in question was unknown to you altogether that you're in trouble for it. Ignorance of illegality is not a defense, but ignorance of occurrence is.
There's also an argument called "reckless disregard", namely, if a reasonable person with average information access in the same position could have found out it was a crime, and you didn't, your ground to stand on becomes a lot shakier. It's often seen in defamation cases.
Never Underestimate what a human is willing to do if they think they can get away with.
Haha funny "first" comment
17:12 this is why i dont get involved in CC to BTC or rug pulls or anything illegal with my crypto bc its wayyyyyy to ez to track people think they can hide crime behind Zcash or monero stupid the day will come the code will be crack and it will rain people think they can hide in a BTC tumbler you cant LOOK at this picture there are Computers bro COMPUTERS COMPUTING YOUR GOOFY ACTIONS why do crime i just dont get it go get a job
Chat really do be putting on the blinders when they hear “ignorance” and assume its of the law and not of the circumstances.
Video delisted, why?
🤷. I was suggested it.
Ignorance is 100% a defence. Specifically in Missouri there was a case where a father was selling drugs out of the basement, the mother of the children said she never went down to the basement and never knew what he did for a living she got off with nothing while he went to jail. Ignorance of the law is not a defense, but ignorance of the crime being committed is defensible.
But she wasn't participating in his crime
NFTs scam you??.. who would have guessed 🤷
I mean, it makes sense they’d start with a super easy target to establish a legal precedent
does not mather if you have sold a few nft's and made money from them that don't make it less of a scam. absolutely 110% of NFT's are a major scam
When the bar is set higher a lot of dumb scammers are shaken out, and the more sophisticated and ruthless ones prevail. Like the bots in WoW: the bad ones were weeded out, the best ones made money.
Can Someone help me please
Am looking for One of Asmongold videos , i was watching it yesterday before I fell sleep , but I was in conjunctions mood ,and when I woke up I found my TH-cam app rest and I lost the video's name , and am not sure how to describe it because I was So sleepy and working on some stuff , I was listening to it like podcast , anyway here are some clues but again am not sure they are from the same video because I watched a Couple videos that night and I kinda mixed them up ,
The Clues :-
1-the video is about 1;47 h and 2;32 hours I guess am not sure
2-has about only 70 views , guess cause it was too long ,
4- he talked about how he is in taxes and it didn't snow their but it Snowed that year and he had to give the heater to his mom , then he spoke about the temperature was 50 degrees then he slept out in the cold ,
5- he Says As long as theirs Internet he will be Ok
6- Am sorry but thats all I can remember Please help me , Asmongold gold is One of my favourite TH-camrs and I really like him please help me
Ice Poseidon pulled money out of the liquidity pool. Which if you don't know what that is, it's basically a way for people to make money by putting their tokens into a big pool and pulling them out later (not going to get into the details) with the expectation that when they pull them out later they'll have more tokens from transaction fees and they'll make a profit. IP just fuckin yoinked a bunch of coins out of that pool.
They go after easy targets that cant fight back easily first as they need to create existing case law before even trying those who have the resources to hire actual lawyers.
Ignorance of the crime is not the same as ignorance of the law. The video was clearly talking about the latter.. Wtf is this shit taxi analogy.
Ignorance shouldn't be a defense in the case of highly paid shills (influencers) who have all the resources to do their do diligence but deliberately won't because there's a lot of zeros on that check. Regulating anything other than advertising/shilling will do absolutely nothing, because yesterday it was Bitconnect, today it's NFT's, and tomorrow it'll be something else. The big shills cash out and retire, the small shills get the short end of the stick and made an example of by the government, and the cycle continues.
BITT CONNEEEEEEECTT!
Banks and politicians have been doing this for centuries.
the taxi situation doesn’t work because in endorsing a product you would VET the product you would have discussion etc, CLEARLY you would not want to endorse a bad product, so ignorance isn’t a pass, it can only limit your liability. especially when the person isn’t just a spokesperson but is the face of the brand.
so again, that situation would only make sense if it was a private KYC taxi service where the taxi driver does declare that there is no contraband say for example they go into restricted or government areas. “not knowing” the passenger had something illicit is not a pass
Exactly. You probably can even go business as usual give a ride to a customer even if they say they're carrying something illegal with them (as long as it's just from public area to another public area without restrictions). All you're really doing is that you're not reporting a crime, which as far as I know isn't a crime most of the time. But if you're not a taxi driver, just giving a ride to somebody you know... idk. In that situation it could get a bit more complicated if they stop your car to check it? Kinda would have to prove that it is not yours and that person in the car isn't just holding onto it for you? Idk.
@@spugelo359 The difference is that taxis carry dozens of people that the driver doesnt know personally every day, the odds of a total stranger being in your car with you doing something illegal without your knowledge is extremely low.
The taxi driver wouldn’t get arrested if he didn’t know about the drugs, but mainly because the customer was in sole possession and control of said drugs.
Intent doesn't count if she benefited from it. If she earned money by promoting a fraudulent business, she can and should be held accountable.
If you dont know but should have known then you can't plead ignorance
Think my man got his ignorance example from Skyler in breaking bad around the cooking the books
61 likes for probably one of the most popular p stars is laughable
sometimes I still get surprised on how smart asmon is
It really depends on who is doing the scam, if you are aqlready rich then it is not a problem at all, if you are poor and do this scam you will be prosecuted with the full extent of the law! FACTS.
On the subject of " driver of Taxi lets person with drugs on them in the taxi, do they get charged? "
if it's in USA, then YES.
They are accountable, they have to ask their passenger if they have anything on them - and be alert to citizens that are gonna be problematic; which is why you _also_ reserve the right to refuse service.
Ignorance to the law is NEVER a defense, lol. The phrase gets mangled, but there's :" ignorance" as in situations pertaining to safe-harbour laws - TH-cam can't be held accountable for all the content on the site - simply bc there's too much of it to screen int he first place, so they're ignorant to 100% of all content. But not ignorant to the laws that cover copyroghted material
K , he has to ask , but clearly has no rights to search, so how do you stop someone with drugs to get in your car, does McDonald's have to ask each person before entering their property ,or train , bus etc. I just don't believe that taxi driver is responsible , or would be charged if they don't have some reason to believe that he might be linked to other person.
Imagine spending 20 years in a federal prison for scamming your fans... Federal prisons are not fun
Ignorance of the facts is a legal defence but ignorance of the law isn't, to clarify what Asmon is trying to say. The taxi driver can say I didn't know he was carrying drugs, but he can't say I didn't know drugs are illegal.
It's "ignorance of the law" is no excuse. If you commit a crime and aren't aware that it's a crime it doesn't mean you aren't culpable. Asmongold is arguing that if a crime is being committed without you being aware of the actual action it is a different case.
based takes from the bald man
A year late to this, but ignorance of the law is never a defense. While Asmon is correct, he worded it very incorrectly. There is a complete difference between committing a crime that you didn't know about, and being put in a situation where you've done something illegal without knowing that you did.
If you're advertising something that is a scam, but you don't know that the people behind it are scamming, you are not accountable at that moment. Where as if you were doing the scamming and you didn't know that scamming was a crime, that would NOT be a defense. However, if you find out that the thing you're advertising is a scam and you don't do anything about it, now you're accountable.
Stocks are directly tied to a business.. a business can't just do a rug pull and get away with it.
So there is often a Mens Rea (mental state) element in law, but generally the minimum Mens Rea required is whether the defendant acted negligently. So if a reasonably prudent person in the circumstances should have been aware that they were committing fraud, then whether or not they actually did know is no longer necessary to reach a guilty verdict (although a more severe sentence may be given if the defendant was purposefully fraudulent). Ignorance is not a defense in and of itself, unless the finder of fact determines a reasonably prudent person (in this case a reasonably prudent business person) would not have been able to determine they were promoting fraud, even after they did their own due diligence.
See, even then it isnt just cut and dry and comes down to interpretation of the evidence and circumstance, but everyone here wants to act like the word of asmongold is gospel.
De’Aron Fox… did a rug pull? YOU’RE LITERALLY GETTING PAID MILLIONS ON MILLIONS PLAYING FOR THE KINGS?
Well the government needs to wait until there's enough money they can seize to make it worth it.
They just skipped over the crypto scammers like Jake Paul with that dink doink shit ?
Asmon's viewers are lawyers now 🤦🤷
Yea you really need to be a lawyer to know the law right? Who needs to know law to avoid breaking it right? Lol get real. Everyone needs to know the law, sounds like you didn't, got impressed by the chat and to you they seem like lawyers when you yourself don't know jack shit like the man and legend himself.
@@TheRedRaven_ I kinda understand your name now. But instead of "kraa kraa" you got "cringe cringe".
Is asmon a lawyer too? And yeah some of the people in that chat probably ARE lawyers. Funny how you can say something so stupid and get people to agree with you.
So chat is confusing ignorance of the law for criminal state of mind.
THe criminal states of mind are: Knowingly (with knowledge of committing the act), Intentionally (having the intention of committing the act), recklessly (acting in such a way that is liable to cause injury or damage), and negligently (acting in such a way that a reasonable person would avoid due to liability to cause injury or damage).
These states of mind apply to the criminal act regardless of if the person knew it was illegal or not. THe state of mind in this argument is the need to prove intent or knowledge (or, not and).
Negligence and recklessness are honestly the more difficult to define for me. Essentially, I think of it as, recklessness is active in nature, Negligence is passive in nature.
I hope Big Time isn't a huge scam i hold Jade pass we shall see!!! 😅
If youre worried its a scam, and you invested, it is probably a scam.
In the end I do think NFTs will be adapted into law somehow but under certain criteria just so it is legal.
Which I think most people that want to be into NFTs, would like to happen.
Make it legit in a way that is legal to law, then they won't be such a fuss about NFTs.
@@tavirosu25 As I understand it, NFTs are meant to be some sort of virtual property, as in you buy some thing, you hold onto it for its value and then you sell it off to someone else, like we do with property in real life.
If its regulated by Law in a condition that is fair, it shouldn't be much of a problem.
Kicking out the scammers would be a good idea for a start.
@@redzool Except NFT have no use and will not have any use, you also don't need to mint an NFT in order to sell a virtual good... you just need to... well sell it.
NFTs are not virtual property btw they are just grocery store tickets that you bought to someone else but you don't have the items listed on it, you buy a unique ID and that ID is "represented" by a virtual item the only thing is that the NFT has no link whatsoever to this item. That means that you effectively bought a unique number on an useless database
Also any uses like "If you have an NFT you can use it in games,etc!" except no... this isn't how technology works, this isn't how assets works, this isn't how programming works it's not because it exists outside of the game that you can copypaste it into it.
@@zeykis7369 Thanks for the information
To be clear- ignorance of the LAW is not a defense. Ignorance of the FACTS that made an act illegal IS a defense.
Example: you pay for a meal with counterfeit bills. If you didn’t know they were counterfeit you have a defense. If didn’t know paying with counterfeit bills was illegal then you do not have a defense.
Asmon is correct that Ignorance is a defense, BUT his one example about the taxi driver is not a fair analogy to the streamers promoting shit products and NFT scams. When you promote something YOU DO have a responsibility to know what you're promoting, claiming ignorance about promoting a bad thing is not at all a defense. And I know he has a HUGE bias in favor of streamers since he is a streamer himself and often makes excuses for streamers who do bad things.
Buying a code with an attachment jpeg for thousands of bucks/pounds of fucking cartoon monkeys! Wonder how many NFT's are actually on an upward value trend. I disagree with asmon here and think the trend of NFT's like these are on life support. Possibly only real world artists selling one offs of their work can continue to do this.
Asmon that was a bad analogy. You are talking about people involuntarily being involved with someone else commiting crime. There is a difference between doing that, and actually breaking the law yourself.
In your analogy, you are descirbing ignorantly helping someone commit a crime, vs the chat talking about ignorance of a law you personally broke......
Rip Lana, shouldn’t have scammed people
Whores getting what they deserve. You love to see it.
Good riddance.
16:40 Asmon, it's probably the same people who buy used bath water off a certain twitch streamer that I won't mention, or previously worn underwear from another "Hot Tub/ASMR" streamer who just recently had problems with a stalker that both you and Kira TV have covered.
the analogy about the taxi driver and ignorance being a valid defencce is just a bad analogy. Ignorance that someone you are with is committing a crime, is not ignorance of the law. Ignorance of the law is doing something illegal intentionally without knowing its illegal. Like selling drugs but you thought its legal.
In this case, if a youtuber or streamer is promoting some crypto or NFT, it is totally their responsibility to vet the project and make sure they aren't promoting a scam. Asmongold has such a hard time with admitting hes wrong. Never once heard him do it ever.
The whole ignorance thing is a spectrum in itself.
For example in the sopranos, tony gives a box to his neighbour. His neighbour knows tony has criminal ties, he knows he has a history as a mafia member. But he takes the box having no idea what's in it. Basically staying ignorant to the whole concept
Now if the police caught him with the box and there was incriminating evidence in it, do you think the neighbour should be charged?
Or would him telling the police that tony soprano gave him the box and he has no idea whats in it, be a good statement in his defence?
*second comment but it has to be said. Since this video came out legal eagle has done a video on TH-cam about ignorance being a defense. Basically unless you're a foreigner in the country who cannot speak the language at all and you do anything worse than park where you shouldn't because you couldn't read the signage ignorance will not work as a defense . There are some very limited reasons why it would work as a defense but those are all going to be misdemeanors and possibly and more likely civil infractions . Hell he's the lawyer. Go watch his video next . Legal eagle ignorance as a defense under the law
Ignorance is a defense because sometimes you don’t know things. It’s hard to know every law or if something is really bad when it’s brand new. Just like how diet soda was actually worse for you but people didn’t know until later on how much worse it technically was. So yes I think ignorance can be a defense if it’s proven the person had no knowledge of any problems prior. Because some people do pull the ignorance card when they intentionally were ignorant and they fail to defend themselves like that once evidence is found.
If someone tells you to walk into a room with a giant red button, and they tell you to press that button. And you decide to press that button, cause come on, its big, it red, its a button, its all the things we like. We pushing that button.
But when you push the button, it destroys a shopping mall with no one inside. Do you get charged for destroying the shopping mall, or does the person who coaxed you into pushing the button get charged. Its the person that coaxed you, because you had no idea what you were doing.
Ignorance is a defense.
Ignorance and lack of knowledge is absolutely a defense. I’ve used that defense in a case I was involved with, involving bad checks. And I won. So idk why people say things so matter of factly when they obviously have no idea what they’re talking about.
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7:00 Ignorance of the law isn’t a defense, but ignorance of the crime being committed in general is. If you’re aware you’re doing a thing, but don’t know that thing is illegal, it won’t matter. If you aren’t aware a thing is even happening in the first place, you probably won’t get charged for it.
Hell yeah, down with NFT’s!
claiming ignorance isnt a defense here is also saying the ISP, or youtube or twitch is also fully responsible for the NFT fraud because they were a method by which the fraud was popularized.
Perfect example of laying low until the heat moves to the next peraon is Mizkif with the whole trying to intimidate a suspected rape victim. He stopped streamingfor a bit and ppl moved hes even back in OTK.
What they did wasn't illegal. They said hey buy NFTs. People bought them, they delivered. Nobody outside who bought them wants them. Now they cry fowl they can't sell them.
Can anyone tell me if this is a big difference?
For stocks - these are companies working on the goal to succeed
NFT/crypto scams - promoted as part of a rug pull. No true effort to succeed in the marketplace?
The deterrent hypothesis is entirely correct . They did a study some time ago using cardboard cutouts or life-size stickers of police officers. In the locations they used them robberies and thefts dropped . I'm not sure how by much I'm not a statistician but it was enough to notice .
I have two nfts that I got for free from AMC for going to see movies on opening weekend. I got a spiderman one for no way home, and a Batman one for the Batman. Don't know if they're worth anything but I got them for free. So... 😂
not to be like "gambling is ok" but if you want to gamble just go to a casino with some friends and a chunk of change you can afford to lose, this is absolutely going to fuck over a bunch of stupid middle-aged dads who have to conceal it as an "investment"
Asmon seems to ban anyone who challenges his opinions. The ones who don't push to hard but disagree are stupid. Like he's some kinda genius and your stupid just for having a different opinion.
I actually see Lana rhoades on certain sites.. and purposefully not click on anything connected to her because of this move. The garbage personality makes me despise everything about her
Ignorance of the law does not excuse you from prosecution, but there is nothing that compelling prosecutors to to pursue charges either. There are circumstances where ignorance or naiveity influence the decision not to prosecute.
Cannot ask for a better sidedish for my dinner
Mayweathers face when he realizes all his NFT projects would actually be worth real money if he 'died'.... Lul. Mistakes were made.
13:00 admit we live in a complete state of survailance and pretending this aint a thing... maybe some day people will be charged for advertising goverment scam... hmmmh i hope so
Celebrities promoting fyre festival is a perfect example of ignorance. 250k to tweet about a party, and lets be real it was their publicist who made the post.
Ignorance is absolutely a defense if a statute says "knowingly and willfully". If you didn't know then you didn't commit the crime.
Maybe older people remember what went down back in the day and know the current narrative is a lie. It’s cold school logic versus the feelings in the now.
Am I the only one being irritated by the background music? 4:00
Steam banned NFTs because they would lose revenue. /facepalm
Hence why Bobby Kotick said he didn't know about the sexual harassment going on at blizzard... Which he did.
Not knowing what you're promoting and getting payed for it is ABSOLUTELY NOT a defence. jesus christ