I just put the General AT/X 285/60/R20 on my 2021 Ford F-150 Platinum 4x4. I love these tires they look good, smooth ride, and very quite. I’ve had BF Goodrich ones in the past they good but the over $100 more per tire. I’m 100% satisfied General Grabber AT/x
I have a F150 crew cab and thinking about getting the same size. Did you have to do any suspension work done to fit it? I’m looking for something a bigger/ gutsy but also don’t want to go overboard. I appreciate any info you can share. Thanks
I installed a set of General Grabber ATXs on my truck a few months back. Absolutely no complaints. Personally, I think they ride smooth and quiet on the highway, and incredible traction in mud when I went fishing several times. Big fan of their looks too.
I’ve driven dang near 50,000 miles and they still have between 5 & 6 32nds of tread remaining. The road noise has become more noticeable no doubt but it doesn’t bother me much personally. The road noise wasn’t much when I first put them on my Tacoma.
I have always been a BFG A/T or Michelin Man. With that being said, what I have seen from Continental the last few years has won me over. I run their AT’s and LOVE them
I just put a set of Continental TerrainContact AT's on my Grand Cherokee. So far, I'm very satisfied, no regrets. Very quiet tire, somewhat firm sidewalls for stability since I do tow a boat, and has very good off-road traction in the rocky terrain I deal with. I've had KO2 before on a 4wd Tacoma and thought they were good off road tires with plenty of grip. But, they chunked out from the rocks, were noisy, and a little stiffer than I wanted. So, I really didn't want to go back to that because of its negatives. I still need more time with the Conti's but my initial impressions are very favorable.
I think that the Continental TerrainContact AT make the most sense for majority highway driving. I have the Grabber APT's which in my opinion are similar, and I love them on and off road.
General Grabber AT - unbelievable for an AT. Very quiet on road, grip in slop and mud is better than an AT should be! Had 4 sets now. Hope they never stop making them!
I have 50k on my general grabber at/x (made by continental btw) I just hit half tread. I tow a trailer 7 days a week and have been very very impressed.
Ran the Grabber AT2 on a 2012 Tacoma.. Grabber ATX on a 2016 Tundra CrewMax and will be putting Grabber ATX under a 2020 F350 CrewCab. Snow traction is great, ice traction is more than acceptable, off road over rocks, mud & sand is commendable. Tread life is fantastic. Can't go wrong with Grabbers. They do what the name implies, they grab.
Driving in snow, the General Grabber ATX is an awesome tire. Day and night difference from the Firestone Destination AT's it replaced. No more feeling like you're on rollerblades while driving on slick snow conditions.
I live in the mountains of Colorado and have always used grabbers on my xj. Best all around tire for the conditions I face up here. Just put a set of grabber atx (31s) on the jeep and so far I like them even better than the at2s.
This is great! I want the BFG KO2’s on my Toyota Tacoma 2WD because they look great, but I think the smart decision for my driving and area is the Continental AT’s.
I’m currently running the general atx and I love them ... I do oil field work so I run highway and off road every day .. they got 50k miles on them right now and still have about 40-50 % on them. Their the 275 70 18 with the outside white letters like you like... so I recomend them 100% I rotate them every oil change wich its every 10-12 k miles
@@jeremeywright those are also real good tires I have them on my f350 they came with them factory lt 245 75 17 40k miles still in great shape… but the grabbers atx are for sure an upgrade over the Michelin I recommend them I offroad with them every day on line of work I do and they hold up great probably best tire all around
For my off road rig I use KO2’s but for my daily driver I use Continental all-terrain tires. I’ve reached over 62k miles before I needed to replace the continental AT’s. For your truck and use, I’d recommend the continental AT’s.
I like the Generals I tow a small camper with a small jeep with Generals ATX Grabbers. I also do a lot of highway driving. Some off road. I have a Spartan lunchbox locker in the rear and still get about 50k miles on a set of tires. Had them on a blazer with no locker got about 63k on those. They are excellent in the snow.
Ivae had bfg's and general grabber atx, and i prefer the general's, i spend alot of time off road looking for good fishing lakes in the interior of B.C Canada, lots of snow and ice in the winter, great tire
I'm going to take your advice and go with the continental AT. In my opinion KO2 are overrated unless you only run off road. For the rest of us who use tires to commute to work, I had so many flats and slid around in rain many times with KO2's
Im considering something besides the KO2 because of this same issue. I have never had to rotate my E rated KO2 on my Tacoma but now that it is close to 4/32 it loses traction on wet pavement from a stop.
Not the AT, I just got the Terrain Contact HT on my F-150 4x2 and so far they’re fantastic. A big improvement over my last set of Michelin Defenders that did not last very long!!!!
Whatever Tire you get make sure you get them high speed balanced, since you drive a lot of high speed and that will make your tires last a lot longer. I got 107k miles out of a set of Grabber at2. On a 02 Tacoma. Tires do get harder the older they get. I've noticed that the last 2 years.
Congratulations, Matt! Campus Automotive has the best tire reviews on TH-cam. I'm from Brazil and have a Jeep Compass. I need to replace the 4 tires on my car and after seeing tons of videos and reviews all over the internet, I chose two tires and I need to make the definitive choice here too. I'm between the General Grabber ATX and the TerrainContact AT (which here in Brazil are sold under the name "ContiCrossContact ATR"). I'm not a frequent off-road user but when I do it, most of the time it's on sand, because I live on the beach. You know, between the Grabber ATX and the TerrainContact AT, which one behaves better on beach sand? Which one has the best side construction to accept the lowest pressure without risk of damaging the rubber or popup from de rim?
I have a 2016 Ram Rebel with LT285/70 R 16‘s. The factory tires were Toyo Open Countries and I got 44K miles on them, so pretty good mileage out of them but they are slippery in the snow and slippery in the rain. Like you, I use my Ram for towing often in the summer, I have a 9000 pound travel trailer. Last week I put on a set of general grabber ATX tires and headed out for a camping trip four hours away. The squirming and the sway of the grabbers was almost to the point of being unsafe. My first call coming back was to the tire dealer to say I wanna get the Grabbers swapped for a set of Continental contact terrains AT. I am hoping for much more sidewall stability from the continentals. Thanks for the video 👍
I used to work at a tire shop. If I had a General tire to change out approx. 80% of them had broken belts and bulges in them. I understand that General tire company was sold to Continental back in the 80's and I haven't worked in a tire shop since then so I can't honestly say they are a better tire now. But a lot of people buy Generals now and love them sooooo......do your homework is all I'm saying. Nice video
BFG ko2s are great tires, but I see questions re going to class E from P ... I went from stock 255/55/19 112 P rated on a land rover lr3 to BFG ko2 265/60/18. Lr3 is a cushy air sprung luxury SUV. Yes, class E BFG is a slightly harder ride. The heavier tire uses more gas, dulls performance and handling. However still quiet and acceptable road manners. So why did I make the change you ask.. Lr3 is good off road truck but heavy. It's let down by low profile road tires. The shallow sidewall means you can't air down and you're prone to punctures and rim damage. The BFG ko2 is a tough tire. I've not had punctures since, great off road and snow traction (Canada). In deep sand you can air down to 15lbs and lower. Do not air down for general rock and mud though as still lowish profile and crap can get still get past bead and you develop a leak. For pure road use I would pick the Continentals featured here or look at Nokian wr3 SUV tires. I had wr2 on a disco 2 and wr3 on Lr3. Great tires for all weather all year round use in snow belt states.
General ATX is quite put them on my 2021 Ford F-150 love the look and the price. It comes with a 55,000 mile warranty which is very unusual for a AT tire.
I wouldn’t throw normal tires on my camper rig. Sometimes you have to cut a grassy corner or tug your Trailer behind somebodies house or whatever. In those few small moments you’ll be happy you have a 4x4 with proper tires on it. I’d go with the KO2 or Grabbers. I tried KO2 on my Tacoma myself but never tried grabber. I’m about to put some meaty rubbers on my F250 tow vehicle I’m thinking I’ll try the KO2 again since they worked last time. I need that resistance to rocks, etc. when I go into the forest service and logging roads.
KO2s great on dry dirt. Hated them on wet / rain surfaces. (Had them on 2014 Raptor 6.2L.). Will never buy KO2s again unless it’s only for the dirt / desert. Love the Grabber A/T X tho. Not perfect but noticeably better in rain. Bought twice. Conti looks interesting for on-highway tho. Might look more into those.
KO2s are great until you've warn off 50% of your tread after that you may as well have racing slicks...look at the wrangler duratrac's cheaper great tread life and great traction right through the tread life
I’ve had a set of the Continentals and now have the General ATX on my Ram 1500. I use my truck for work and towing my boat. I miss the Continentals and will probably go back with them because I don’t do aggressive off-roading, just going on muddy/sandy job sites. My coworker runs the BFGs and they’re solid but not as good in the wet or road noise wise.
What do you think of the ATX General Grabber? I plan to put it to my RAM, but I would like some aggressive tacos. But I do not like it looks. so. Who with Dodge Ram Third Generacion Year 2002 to 2008 with General ATX? Que opinan de los ATX General Grabber? Pienso ponerselo a mi Ram, pero me gustaria unos de tacos agresivos. pero no ae como se ve. asi. Quien con Dodge Ram Tercera Generacion Año 2002 a 2008 Con General Atx?
Have they finally gotten the new BFG tread compound worked out or are they still having issues with it on 3/4 ton and larger trucks Thanks for your good tire reviews
I had K02 on my Silverado High country Had to Decide on the Continental AT or the Cooper Discoverer XLT Ended up choosing the Cooper for the Tuff N. E. Ohio Winter. Size 260/60/20
I don’t have a big truck but I’ve had ko2 on my Lexus gx and Jeep Wrangler and love them. They have been more comfortable on the road than I’ve read. Yeah, get rid of the big rims. I have 17s on the gx and 15s on the Jeep. Maybe you can find Firestone in the smaller rim?
@@thomasroseman575 Hi man, I don't have snow or ice where I live, but I have used them in really heavy rain and deep water crossings and they have really good grip, I have done some emergency stopping in wet and dry conditions and they don't slip as easy as other tires, they even provide you a lot of feedback when braking, my truck doesn't have ABS and I can brake really hard and feel the point where they want to start the slip but still grabbing the floor. That feedback saved me of hitting an idiot two months ago, he tried to cross the highway on a bicycle and I was able to stop completely before hitting him, with my old tires I would have killed him. The compound of the ATXs is soft and almost like chewy haha. I'm pretty happy with them
I have a set of the general grabber atx on my Silverado 2500. So far they are great! Haven’t had them in the snow yet but hopefully the still do well. Only have about 5,000 miles on them as of now.
I think anything you can do to make a big truck more livable is worth it, and all riders will appreciate that. I’d go with the Contis for your uses, even if just for road noise and smoothness. I think my next tire will be the General ATX. I currently have Kuhmo RoadVenture A/T 51, which have been excellent in snow, ice, mountains, off-road, wear, and couldn’t really ask for better... but I like trying different things. I used to run Firestone Steeltex AT, the precursor to the Transforce, and then the Transforce AT; both were great, long lasting, and I never got stuck in the COLORADO mountains off roading in the snow. BFG now offers a DT model with a longer lasting compound to address the wear issues in some applications. It drops the 3 peak snowflake, and I don’t know if it comes in your size yet.
I just swapped out a worn set of the Continentals (285/45/22). They were a great tire on the road, wet or dry, and still great in the rain even down to the wear bars. I never run tires that low on tread, but they still had great traction. That said, they’re not the best in snow and mud and the tread wear wasn’t very impressive. I wanted something with the triple peak rating, so I’m trying the General Grabber APT. They look similar to the Continentals, but start out with 2/32 more tread and have a slightly more aggressive tread. We’ll see.
What is your experience with towing on these tires? I spend 90% of my time hooked to a trailer and 10% is on gravel and dirt roads. Also plow snow in the winter.
Which tire would you recommend between Cooper AT3 XLT, General Grabber ATX or Firestone Destination XT? Live in South Alabama. No snow, some icy roads occasionally, but mostly heat and tons of rain. Do a lot of back roads driving, drive 800-900 miles a week. Want a white letter tire other than a KO2 that’s capable and will last 50-60k with regular rotation. Drive a 2014 Silverado 1500 4x4 extended cab. Don’t tow often. Ran Nitto Ridgegrapplers 275/70/18 and have 73k miles on them. They were great but want something more road friendly but still capable of mild off road use. Thanks!
I know it but late but I live in Maine I got Chevy 1500 I run a 8.2 boss v plow in winter plow residential driveways and summer we Owen a farm and we have swapped all ower trucks to the general grabbers atxI still running a set of there older grabber at2 they get great trip mud and snow they compare to the bfg just with out the big price tag last just as long long as u rotate them when u should I'm very happy with them and I'll be putting a new set on soon as these are finished
Just put a set of the Continentals onto my new 2020 Ram 2500. Love them so far. Could not wait to get rid of those Firestone's. Also looked closely at the Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT.
I've ran and do run the general grabber at on my f250 super duty 7.3 and tow a 8000 lbs fifth wheel and love them great traction in all weather and ware like iron
Finally; the video I’ve been waiting for. ATX vs KO2. If the KO2 had BOTH a mileage warranty as well as the 3-peak rating in the same tire, it would be a no-brainer. It’s my opinion that they look the best and are well proven. Although the ATX has a 2-ply sidewall vs. the KO2’s 3-ply (load rage D & E), I’ve read multiple times on the net where it’s two 1500 denier plies vs KO2’s three 1,000 denier plies (same overall thickness). I’ve also seen multiple points of feedback that suggest the ATX is absolutely phenomenal in the snow, even compared to the well known KO2. I think the Terrain Contact AT looks like it’s a half step above your Transforce AT in traction. I’d love to see a legitimate, non-biased, on & off road review between the ATX & KO2. I wonder how many people will suggest tires OTHER than these three...
ATX has a 3 ply sidewall. Says so on tirebuyer.com and I asked them to confirm because I've seen so many people claim what you do. They balance better than KO2 as well and have much better road manners and wet/snow traction.
@@jesseashmore8426 Ok, post the link that supports your claim that the ATX features a three-ply sidewall. Skip to 3:55. th-cam.com/video/wiZXzx-SuyA/w-d-xo.html
@@Icutmetal www.tirebuyer.com/education/new-general-grabber-a-t-x says it in the first paragraph. Tire rack says 2-ply construction. General website doesn't say anything . Guess you'd have to call general themselves, but tirebuyer confirmed their claim when I asked them.
Out of your group, I would choose the General Grabber ATX owned by Continental, close to what I use I run Nitto Ridge Grapplers, maybe you could do a quick side by side on those I wanted to stay in the Continental family, but I fell in love with the Nitto Ridge Grapplers BFG owned by Michelin lowered the durometer on the K02 making the the tread softer like a snow tire to get the snowflake symbol that doesn't help much ,and they wear out twice as fast because of thIs, like driving winter tires in the summer, not good and they get ripped to shreds off-road on rocks and gravel I wish I would have read the small print on the requirements for the snowflake symbol before I bought the BFG KO2's they are useless on ice and hard packed snow I copied and pasted the whole snowflake symbol :requirements at the end of this comment, Here's a piece I copied and pasted from below (Testing measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow only. Braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test) THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A TIRE FOR BOTH WINTER AND SUMMER, I LIKE MOST PEOPLE TRIED TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL TIRE THAT'S EXCELLENT ALL YEAR ROUND, REQUIRING NO WINTER TIRE CHANGES UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TIRE DOESN'T EXIST I run Nitto Ridge Grappler for spring, summer, fall as I have a 4runner , and don't want to get stuck in the spring and fall wet ground, looking like a idiot, like I did with the BFG KO2's , useless in light mud too And for winter I run Continental VikingContact 7 , driving on these in the winter, is like driving on Nitto Ridge Grappler in the summer, they are that good, except for the off-road part It cost the same in the long run to buy 2 sets of tires as, they will last as long collectively as 2 sets of all season tires and 4 times a long as BFG KO2's , as they last about half as long as other tires in the group Only extra cost is another set of rims I use those ugly steel wheels for winter as they will be covered in muck anyway, and if you slam into a curb or huge pot hole under the snow the cheap steel rim will bend and take the damage, not your suspension, and you will have no trouble matching them for cheap, if one does get eaten by winter My friend runs Continental TerrainContact AT, they don't have a snowflake symbol , but are better in the winter than the K02's that he replaced too, we both bought the BFG KO2's for looks, but the new Nitto Ridge Grappler looks a lot better He was surprised, and so was I that the Nitto Ridge Grapplers are as quiet and performs as well on pavement as his Continental TerrainContact AT's, and of course mine are far superior off-road His next set is going to be the Nitto Ridge Grapplers and getting Continental VikingContact 7 snow tires like I did, as the Continental TerrainContact AT's, aren't even close to them in winter 1 out of 10 compared to the Continental VikingContact 7 as you would expect Here is the snowflake symbol requirement: A three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) symbol branded on a tire's sidewall indicates the tire meets required performance criteria in snow testing to be considered severe snow service-rated. Originally used as a designation for winter tires, the 3PMSF symbol is now featured on some all-season and all-terrain tires with snow performance that meets the testing criteria. Testing measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow only. Braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test. Tires branded with the 3PMSF symbol are expected to provide improved snow traction beyond a standard M+S branded all-season tire. Note: 3PMSF-branded all-season and all-terrain tires cannot match the traction of dedicated winter / snow tires in all winter weather conditions and should not be considered a replacement for where and when a dedicated winter tire is needed My 2 cents
@@myharley5616www.1010tires.com/Tires/2018/Toyota/4Runner/4-Dr-Sport-Utility-SR5/265-70R17-113S/172208?manufacturer=Continental&model=Viking+Contact+7 you could also use this calculator to minus size to get one to fit, you never wrote the size you need www.1010tires.com/Tools/Tire-Size-Calculator
I know you have already picked, and I agree with your choice. But one other factor to consider is how much the tire weighs. A tire that is 10 - 15 lbs heavier will adversely affect both your mileage and stopping ability. LT tires are usually heavier than P rated tires.
Great channel….I have a 21’ ram 2500 and tow a 9k travel trailer….I am putting new tires on and will run them year round. Would you still recommend the Open Country AT3’s over the BF K02’s? Thanks
I have an A/T tire on my truck now, but the MPG's are terrible. I went from 20mpg highway to 17.5 mpg. I think im going back to a road tire next. I dont go off-road that much anyway.
Just ordered 4 General Grabber ATXs for my 4Runner. I'm switching out Michelin LTX M/S2s. I was choosing between Falkin Wildpeaks and Hankook but recent Consumer Report 2020 Tire Reviews had me looking at the General Grabbers.
I run the Toyo RT in the same size, but the Continental will last the longest out of those 3. I like all 3 of those as well. You could get the DT tread version of the KO2, but you lose the 3 Peak Snowflake rating. These are 3 great tires. I would love to see you run the ATX and give feedback as you put more miles on them.
I am located in Colorado and have an 04 suburban 2500 that I mostly use for towing an 14” enclosed trailer and passengers . That being said the family likes to take weekend excursions camping and we like to go off-road...nothing extreme just not roadside campgrounds. So do I go for the continentals or more for the grabber? What is your recommendation. Thanks I’m advance!
My son went to Toyo tires on his F350 and is getting good traction (he plows and tows and heavy equipment trailer for work), better MPG and better tire life about 40K now compared to 23K on Ford stock tires.
I put the Grabber ATX on my ZR2 and absolutely love them. And I haven't taken them off-road yet, but went thru 10" of snow with zero problems. I bought them about a year ago and I think they were the highest rated in virtually all categories at that time under the "On & Off-road" group. I love the sidewalls and I put the solid white letters "in" not to attract thieves, yet still have so many "regular" people... like at supermarkets... pizzerias... corner stores... all rubbernecking or asking about them.
Awesome review. Im still pretty torn between the terraincontact at and the general grabber atx. Im in canada, where winter tire are mandatory so i wont be using them in the winter so dont care to much about the snow performance( own a set of nailed general grabber arctic ). Im making around 15K km a year wich around 1000 to 1500 are in dirt/gravel road to go at my hunting camp. Wich one would you choose between thise 2 set ? Thanks for the amazing review 🤘
Ohh and I forgot to tell that I have the opportunity to buy a set of 4 pre owned atx and 1 new ( around 8000km and still at 12/32 and 14/32 for the new one ) for 1200$ Cad. Should I pull the trigger on this deal ?
Definitely the KO2 I’ve had mine for a few years out 40,000 miles on it and it’s still got a lot of rubber left to it not the greatest for mud but will get you through for the most part it’s a B plus to A plus in every other aspect
I replaced some Goodyears with plenty of treadlife with the Continental TerrainContact A/Ts and I gotta say my truck rides like a new truck and I can leave it in 2WD mode most of the time and be confident that I'm not going to spin out on a little bit of snow or ice or hydroplane every time it rans like I did in the Goodyears. Granted, Goodyears tires are not my first (or even top 10) brand for tires, but the difference in ride quality was quite surprising and they don't break the bank too badly. I was also considering the Nokian all terrains and the Cooper AT3 LTs as well (which has similar tread, good for light off-roading but not overly aggressive to where highway performance is bad). I did not get the BFG because I have friends who said they got around 10k on a set and did fine on Coopers, which are softer and don't last as long as some others.
@@CampusautoCo I have a friend who goes with Nokians on his truck because of that with no problems. I've used Nokians on various cars over the years and they're great, it's like having a snow tire that you can run all season long and they aren't too expensive either, ride's not the best but not bad by any means etc.
I know its an older video but the Continental will ride better and give you a better driving experience. Just not the more aggressive look the other tires may give off. The BFG KO2's is what I had last on my GMC 3500 w/5th wheel and I was none impressed AT ALL!! When I said something to Discount Tire the rep said my Ranch Hand Bumper is really heavy and was likely the cause of the quick and uneven wear LMAO! So I decided if I cant find a tire that last like they claim then I may as well just put some big mud tires on the truck and except having to change them sooner than I would like to. I decided to buy some 33's mounted on the factory rims, also these tires where made in China and only cost me $160 a piece installed (Deep Diggers) and I have to say I was very pleased with them for the price and the way the tires handled. It comes out to practically the same money when I buy 2 sets over 50,000 miles. Plus I get newer tires twice and the nice new look twice in the same time period. Never again will I pay almost $400 a tire after all their fees and warranty B.S.
@@CampusautoCo 2015 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport, went up one size to 265/70/17, load range C BFG KO2 tires. Had Toyota do rebalance on tires and alignment done. Assuming they did tire pressure to spec on sidewall. Someone advised doing a positive caster. This is my first truck, the stock Dunlop Grandtrek tires were very smooth. Once I moved to these KO2s, it feels squirrelly and uneven on the highway. Love the look of the tires but the ride quality is terrible.
@@uwhusky112 The air pressure spec for your truck is on the drivers door pillar probably 35 psi). The air pressure listed on the tire is for the maximum load the tire is designed for (probably 50 psi). If they are aired to that you will risk premature wear on the middle section of tread and a very harsh ride. Are you sure your stock rims meet the width requirement of the tires you listed. I believe they call for a minimum rim width of 8".
Brad, I have a 2008 Dodge 3500 Dually. I have ran the old Firestone Transforce HT for the last 48,500 miles. I would like a little more traction since a dually spins on wet grass. I also have a 14,000 pound Fifth Wheel to pull. What tire would you recommend? Transforce AT2? Destination XT? Please let me know.
I have a 2010 Dodge Ram Crew cab hemi 5.7 and have 26,740 miles on it. I had to replace 3 tires from picking up nails werid metal pieces and 4 flats they were able to plug. Live in Il and have to drive it all season to doctors. Tire guy says plenty of tread and it’s hard on 7 liters of oxygen to change tires and usually happen in a city here replacements are from dealer and expensive. White letter BFG. I carry a air compressor that’s help me to get to tire center. Any ideas on why so many flats. Just went out to garage and front right tire is flat. It has the tow package in case I use it. My tire size is 275/60/20
@@CampusautoCo I bought a set of Mich. tires and wow, my Laramie i though was quiet and now no noise and ride is so smooth. Looked down at speedometer on our highway that is a terrible mess because I felt like I was barely moving and I was going 85. I had Mich on all my cars. And did not realize they had them for trucks. 3 of the BF Goodrich tires I had replaced and I kept one all stamped made in 2017. Sad it made someone needing tires bad so time to get by. A buddy has a tow yard with two wrecked Laramie’s with my size rims and going to put that tire on and replace the temporary spare. Truck is spotless and I ordered every available option in July 2010 when they were Dodge Rams. Has the tow package, extra cooling radiator 3.92 rear end and tv in back and every option except the engine block heater. I had to ad a battery trickle since I don’t drive much, put a hard top cover with aero wing, carpet in rear and a pull out for my big oxygen tanks that feed to cabin. Added all kinds of chrome on pillars, bottom of black by running boards etc and yesterday had it waxed and clean and wanted to drive a Chevy 2500 of my buddies and followed him. Talk about a eye opener . Had no idea the rear line of lights and the running board lights that change from blue to yellow when in gear also blinked when turn signal was on. Now wonder everyone says they seen me here or there when I do go out. Stopped at dealer to look at used cad and no way would I trade. It be over 80 K to get all the options I have now, true bigger radio display, but be a hassle to adjust 12 way power seats from a computer screen.
My dealer said the BFG KO2 has no warranty. I have the Grabbers on the SUV, but I ❤️ road noise. I’ve only had them for a few weeks and they do seem to pick up rocks.
The BF Goodrich KO2’s come with a 50,000 mile warranty. I have had 2 sets on a F150 4x4 and a set on a Jeep JK. No need for the warranty yet. I’m putting a set on my F350 FX4 lariat super duty this coming Monday. I have gotten 60K miles out of mine. They are fantastic in the snow and rocky terrain. Not a real muddier, but serviceable!
I know you have already put them on your truck and all, but I am wondering why you would choose the Continental TerrainContact AT over the General Grabber APT
i love my ko2's, the only complaint i have about them is how long they last, but the softer rubber gives me lots of confidence in the snow so its the give and take of the tires
@@Icutmetal they’re actually horrible and develop noise/vibration. Speaking of vibrations, I’ve never had to balance tires as often. Road force too. I hate driving my vehicle now.
Either the continental tire or the general ATX. I’d stay away from the BFG only because I’ve seen 3/4 ton trucks wear them out within 30k miles. plus with either the general or conti is that you get a mileage warranty. If you still not satisfied with the options I’d highly recommend the Toyo at2. Great tire all around and long lasting tread. Also has a lot of good reviews on them as well. Just my two cents
I actually used all 3 on my f-350. And man i abuse this truck for over 75 thousand miles. I haul huge semi tires in the trunk and i can tell u this. The General grabber is ok for looks and it did its job but trust me if your using them for work and hauling over 2500 pound on a regular basis it will only last maybe 35-45 k. But the continentals are past 40 thousand and still have plenty of life in them even in Chicago winters. Plus im getting about 2 mpg better on the highway compared to the grabber
I have had BFG k02s and those dam things got nails and punctures all the time. The Goodyear wrangler silent armor or all terrain adventure is a awesome tire ! No punctures in 6 years ! Tough tire with Kevlar and white letters. Now I’m trying out some hankook AT2s and they are pretty tough almost as tough as the wranglers but loud and more rough but cheaper. My truck has 4 Michelin defenders on it and they ride awesome and quiet but snow traction is average and they are very expensive. But are proving to be puncture free and handle high speed and aggressive driving.
Campus Automotive Inc 2001 F-150 supercrew 4wd with 251k on it. I also want to tell you that the hankook dynapro AT2 comes in the XL option with white letter. That’s what I have on my wife’s suv. They told me it means xtra load. So it’s a more heavy tire and rides rougher but totally acceptable for price
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I just put the General AT/X 285/60/R20 on my 2021 Ford F-150 Platinum 4x4. I love these tires they look good, smooth ride, and very quite. I’ve had BF Goodrich ones in the past they good but the over $100 more per tire. I’m 100% satisfied General Grabber AT/x
Good choice!
How do you still like the tires? I have a 21 f150 powerboost hybrid but I want some AT tires for coming up snow.
@@danielwilliams4473 I still like them you have to rotate them every 6 to 8,000 miles. The tread is still great I have 18,000 miles on them.
I have a F150 crew cab and thinking about getting the same size. Did you have to do any suspension work done to fit it? I’m looking for something a bigger/ gutsy but also don’t want to go overboard. I appreciate any info you can share. Thanks
Did the truck feel slower off the line with the 285’s ?
I installed a set of General Grabber ATXs on my truck a few months back. Absolutely no complaints. Personally, I think they ride smooth and quiet on the highway, and incredible traction in mud when I went fishing several times. Big fan of their looks too.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@CampusautoCo SO??? What tire did you pick? I am looking to put on an RV.
@@RVingwithG he went with the Continental Terrain Contact AT. What tire size is your RV?
can u hear noise going down highway
I’ve driven dang near 50,000 miles and they still have between 5 & 6 32nds of tread remaining. The road noise has become more noticeable no doubt but it doesn’t bother me much personally. The road noise wasn’t much when I first put them on my Tacoma.
I have always been a BFG A/T or Michelin Man. With that being said, what I have seen from Continental the last few years has won me over. I run their AT’s and LOVE them
Thanks for the Vote.
I just put a set of Continental TerrainContact AT's on my Grand Cherokee. So far, I'm very satisfied, no regrets. Very quiet tire, somewhat firm sidewalls for stability since I do tow a boat, and has very good off-road traction in the rocky terrain I deal with. I've had KO2 before on a 4wd Tacoma and thought they were good off road tires with plenty of grip. But, they chunked out from the rocks, were noisy, and a little stiffer than I wanted. So, I really didn't want to go back to that because of its negatives. I still need more time with the Conti's but my initial impressions are very favorable.
I think that the Continental TerrainContact AT make the most sense for majority highway driving. I have the Grabber APT's which in my opinion are similar, and I love them on and off road.
Coo. Thanks for the real world feedback!
General Grabber AT - unbelievable for an AT. Very quiet on road, grip in slop and mud is better than an AT should be! Had 4 sets now. Hope they never stop making them!
Thanks for the vote!
jack do they walk the road like he said
The Continental is definitely the tire for your application even though I am more of a fan of the K02 and the Grabber for myself. 🙂
Thanks for the Vote.
Agreed!!!
I have the Continental AT on my truck and for highway, off-road and towing they can't be beat. Love these tires.
Thanks!
they can't be beat ? so you never tried the Yoko G015 !!
I think the continental terrain is your best bet, I'm also in the market for a set of tires and I'm starting to like those continentals terrained.
I have 50k on my general grabber at/x (made by continental btw) I just hit half tread. I tow a trailer 7 days a week and have been very very impressed.
Awesome!
Dalton what type of truck are you running them on? 1 ton?
A lot of highway miles or no?
Ran the Grabber AT2 on a 2012 Tacoma.. Grabber ATX on a 2016 Tundra CrewMax and will be putting Grabber ATX under a 2020 F350 CrewCab. Snow traction is great, ice traction is more than acceptable, off road over rocks, mud & sand is commendable. Tread life is fantastic. Can't go wrong with Grabbers. They do what the name implies, they grab.
Awesome feedback! Thanks.
Driving in snow, the General Grabber ATX is an awesome tire. Day and night difference from the Firestone Destination AT's it replaced. No more feeling like you're on rollerblades while driving on slick snow conditions.
I live in the mountains of Colorado and have always used grabbers on my xj. Best all around tire for the conditions I face up here. Just put a set of grabber atx (31s) on the jeep and so far I like them even better than the at2s.
Yes sir. Thanks for the feedback!
This is great! I want the BFG KO2’s on my Toyota Tacoma 2WD because they look great, but I think the smart decision for my driving and area is the Continental AT’s.
Good choice!
The Firestone Destination ATs are my favorite tires for the Taco. Smooth, quiet and great treadlife
@@BrandonEht 🤢Firestone
I like the k02s except for the price
I’m currently running the general atx and I love them ... I do oil field work so I run highway and off road every day .. they got 50k miles on them right now and still have about 40-50 % on them. Their the 275 70 18 with the outside white letters like you like... so I recomend them 100% I rotate them every oil change wich its every 10-12 k miles
Awesome real world feedback!
Do u find the grabbers loud? I’m
Looking at getting this size on my tundra Thank you.
@@jeremeywright no not at all .. what do you currently run?
@@baldomerovega65 I have the tires that came on it the Michelin LTX at2. It’s a 21 Toyota Tundra
@@jeremeywright those are also real good tires I have them on my f350 they came with them factory lt 245 75 17 40k miles still in great shape… but the grabbers atx are for sure an upgrade over the Michelin I recommend them I offroad with them every day on line of work I do and they hold up great probably best tire all around
For my off road rig I use KO2’s but for my daily driver I use Continental all-terrain tires. I’ve reached over 62k miles before I needed to replace the continental AT’s. For your truck and use, I’d recommend the continental AT’s.
Thanks for the feedback!
I run the Continental TerrainContact AT on my Escalade, great tire! Quiet and great wet, snow traction.
Awesome. Thanks!
I like the Generals I tow a small camper with a small jeep with Generals ATX Grabbers. I also do a lot of highway driving. Some off road. I have a Spartan lunchbox locker in the rear and still get about 50k miles on a set of tires. Had them on a blazer with no locker got about 63k on those. They are excellent in the snow.
I think the Continental Terrain Contact AT would be the best for your driving needs.
Thanks!
Ivae had bfg's and general grabber atx, and i prefer the general's, i spend alot of time off road looking for good fishing lakes in the interior of B.C Canada, lots of snow and ice in the winter, great tire
Thanks for the vote!
I'm going to take your advice and go with the continental AT. In my opinion KO2 are overrated unless you only run off road. For the rest of us who use tires to commute to work, I had so many flats and slid around in rain many times with KO2's
I think you will be happy.
Im considering something besides the KO2 because of this same issue. I have never had to rotate my E rated KO2 on my Tacoma but now that it is close to 4/32 it loses traction on wet pavement from a stop.
Personally I'd get the round one, say what you will but a round one has always been my choice. And the rounder the better.
Got it.
Not the AT, I just got the Terrain Contact HT on my F-150 4x2 and so far they’re fantastic. A big improvement over my last set of Michelin Defenders that did not last very long!!!!
Awesome! Let me know how they do.
Would love to put the continentals on my Ram but cannot get them… 😢 Matt thanks for all your reviews, you do a awesome job.
great review! I run the continentals on a Tundra. Had great luck with them currently at 45k on them.
Whatever Tire you get make sure you get them high speed balanced, since you drive a lot of high speed and that will make your tires last a lot longer. I got 107k miles out of a set of Grabber at2. On a 02 Tacoma. Tires do get harder the older they get. I've noticed that the last 2 years.
Very true.
Getting ready to replace a set of KO2's off my '02 F250 that I got 48,xxx out of with a brand new set of...
KO2's!!! 👍
Nice!
Congratulations, Matt! Campus Automotive has the best tire reviews on TH-cam. I'm from Brazil and have a Jeep Compass. I need to replace the 4 tires on my car and after seeing tons of videos and reviews all over the internet, I chose two tires and I need to make the definitive choice here too. I'm between the General Grabber ATX and the TerrainContact AT (which here in Brazil are sold under the name "ContiCrossContact ATR"). I'm not a frequent off-road user but when I do it, most of the time it's on sand, because I live on the beach. You know, between the Grabber ATX and the TerrainContact AT, which one behaves better on beach sand? Which one has the best side construction to accept the lowest pressure without risk of damaging the rubber or popup from de rim?
I think the Grabber ATX properly aired down will perform better in the sand.
Agree, he is by far the best reviewer on the web.
Love my ATX super good on and off road! No complaints.
I have a 2016 Ram Rebel with LT285/70 R 16‘s. The factory tires were Toyo Open Countries and I got 44K miles on them, so pretty good mileage out of them but they are slippery in the snow and slippery in the rain. Like you, I use my Ram for towing often in the summer, I have a 9000 pound travel trailer. Last week I put on a set of general grabber ATX tires and headed out for a camping trip four hours away. The squirming and the sway of the grabbers was almost to the point of being unsafe. My first call coming back was to the tire dealer to say I wanna get the Grabbers swapped for a set of Continental contact terrains AT. I am hoping for much more sidewall stability from the continentals. Thanks for the video 👍
Sometimes it helps if you adjust the air pressure on the Grabber to a lower pressure for a couple thousand miles.
Grabber is quiet and bounces off everything. And they look the the best.
I have General Graber A/T-x 35/12:50/18's And love them!!
Awesome!
I used to work at a tire shop. If I had a General tire to change out approx. 80% of them had broken belts
and bulges in them. I understand that General tire company was sold to Continental back in the 80's
and I haven't worked in a tire shop since then so I can't honestly say they are a better tire now. But a lot
of people buy Generals now and love them sooooo......do your homework is all I'm saying. Nice video
They are MUCH better now!
BFG ko2s are great tires, but I see questions re going to class E from P ... I went from stock 255/55/19 112 P rated on a land rover lr3 to BFG ko2 265/60/18. Lr3 is a cushy air sprung luxury SUV. Yes, class E BFG is a slightly harder ride. The heavier tire uses more gas, dulls performance and handling. However still quiet and acceptable road manners. So why did I make the change you ask.. Lr3 is good off road truck but heavy. It's let down by low profile road tires. The shallow sidewall means you can't air down and you're prone to punctures and rim damage. The BFG ko2 is a tough tire. I've not had punctures since, great off road and snow traction (Canada). In deep sand you can air down to 15lbs and lower. Do not air down for general rock and mud though as still lowish profile and crap can get still get past bead and you develop a leak. For pure road use I would pick the Continentals featured here or look at Nokian wr3 SUV tires. I had wr2 on a disco 2 and wr3 on Lr3. Great tires for all weather all year round use in snow belt states.
atx are a great choice, I love them I have the on all of my trucks
Thanks for the vote!
@yota are they noisy as he suggests? how about the MPG?
The Conti A/t is excellent I have them on both vehicles and they are quiet, the tread holds up a long time, and they are great in snow
Thanks for the feedback!
Snow is what im looking fo.
I just ordered the continentals. It going on today. All the research I went through bring me to the three tires you have there.
Awesome!
General ATX is quite put them on my 2021 Ford F-150 love the look and the price. It comes with a 55,000 mile warranty which is very unusual for a AT tire.
Tars (tires), awl (oil). The southern accent has a charm all it’s own.
Appalachian Dialect.
Yeah Matt, I think the continental is the right tire for your truck and your driving needs.
Thanks for the vote!
Yeah, get the continental. They make great tires and sounds like they fit your driving style
Have you compared lateral stiffness in the tire, side wall, can be associated trailer sway, stability, being one of your expressed needs.
Yes
I wouldn’t throw normal tires on my camper rig. Sometimes you have to cut a grassy corner or tug your Trailer behind somebodies house or whatever. In those few small moments you’ll be happy you have a 4x4 with proper tires on it.
I’d go with the KO2 or Grabbers. I tried KO2 on my Tacoma myself but never tried grabber.
I’m about to put some meaty rubbers on my F250 tow vehicle I’m thinking I’ll try the KO2 again since they worked last time. I need that resistance to rocks, etc. when I go into the forest service and logging roads.
That's a good point. I agree 100%
KO2s great on dry dirt. Hated them on wet / rain surfaces. (Had them on 2014 Raptor 6.2L.). Will never buy KO2s again unless it’s only for the dirt / desert. Love the Grabber A/T X tho. Not perfect but noticeably better in rain. Bought twice. Conti looks interesting for on-highway tho. Might look more into those.
Good choice. I think you are on the right track
Continental if you have to pick from these. Also a fan of Toyo and Hankook for tough tires.
Thanks for the Vote.
Only ones on your list I'd consider are the KO2s.
KO2s are great until you've warn off 50% of your tread after that you may as well have racing slicks...look at the wrangler duratrac's cheaper great tread life and great traction right through the tread life
Great point!
i ALSO LIKE THE CONTINENTAL IT APPEARS THAT IT WILL GIVE YOU A SMOOTHER AND QUIETER RIDE AND A LONER TREAD WEAR
I think it should.
I’ve had a set of the Continentals and now have the General ATX on my Ram 1500. I use my truck for work and towing my boat. I miss the Continentals and will probably go back with them because I don’t do aggressive off-roading, just going on muddy/sandy job sites. My coworker runs the BFGs and they’re solid but not as good in the wet or road noise wise.
Awesome! Thanks for the real world feedback.
What do you think of the ATX General Grabber? I plan to put it to my RAM, but I would like some aggressive tacos. But I do not like it looks. so. Who with Dodge Ram Third Generacion Year 2002 to 2008 with General ATX?
Que opinan de los ATX General Grabber? Pienso ponerselo a mi Ram, pero me gustaria unos de tacos agresivos. pero no ae como se ve. asi. Quien con Dodge Ram Tercera Generacion Año 2002 a 2008 Con General Atx?
Ko2 would be my opinion. However, every one has a opinion to which tire is best for driving conditions.
Good point. I like the K02.
Have they finally gotten the new BFG tread compound worked out or are they still having issues with it on 3/4 ton and larger trucks
Thanks for your good tire reviews
I had K02 on my Silverado High country
Had to Decide on the Continental AT or the Cooper Discoverer XLT Ended up choosing the Cooper for the Tuff N. E. Ohio Winter.
Size 260/60/20
Right on.
I don’t have a big truck but I’ve had ko2 on my Lexus gx and Jeep Wrangler and love them. They have been more comfortable on the road than I’ve read. Yeah, get rid of the big rims. I have 17s on the gx and 15s on the Jeep. Maybe you can find Firestone in the smaller rim?
I have the ATXs on my truck and I really love them, but for your use I would go for the Continentals.
Love the channel!!
Thanks for the vote!
Dwight how are they on light and deep snow, ice and rain thanks
@@thomasroseman575 Hi man, I don't have snow or ice where I live, but I have used them in really heavy rain and deep water crossings and they have really good grip, I have done some emergency stopping in wet and dry conditions and they don't slip as easy as other tires, they even provide you a lot of feedback when braking, my truck doesn't have ABS and I can brake really hard and feel the point where they want to start the slip but still grabbing the floor.
That feedback saved me of hitting an idiot two months ago, he tried to cross the highway on a bicycle and I was able to stop completely before hitting him, with my old tires I would have killed him. The compound of the ATXs is soft and almost like chewy haha. I'm pretty happy with them
@Ingenieras Dwight - are they noisy as he suggests? how about the MPG?
I have a set of the general grabber atx on my Silverado 2500. So far they are great! Haven’t had them in the snow yet but hopefully the still do well. Only have about 5,000 miles on them as of now.
Awesome! Keep me posted.
I think anything you can do to make a big truck more livable is worth it, and all riders will appreciate that. I’d go with the Contis for your uses, even if just for road noise and smoothness.
I think my next tire will be the General ATX. I currently have Kuhmo RoadVenture A/T 51, which have been excellent in snow, ice, mountains, off-road, wear, and couldn’t really ask for better... but I like trying different things. I used to run Firestone Steeltex AT, the precursor to the Transforce, and then the Transforce AT; both were great, long lasting, and I never got stuck in the COLORADO mountains off roading in the snow.
BFG now offers a DT model with a longer lasting compound to address the wear issues in some applications. It drops the 3 peak snowflake, and I don’t know if it comes in your size yet.
BFG is updating all tread compounds in the 4th quarter to get away from the DT and have one line that are all three peak snow rated.
I just swapped out a worn set of the Continentals (285/45/22). They were a great tire on the road, wet or dry, and still great in the rain even down to the wear bars. I never run tires that low on tread, but they still had great traction. That said, they’re not the best in snow and mud and the tread wear wasn’t very impressive. I wanted something with the triple peak rating, so I’m trying the General Grabber APT. They look similar to the Continentals, but start out with 2/32 more tread and have a slightly more aggressive tread. We’ll see.
Let me know how they do.
What is your experience with towing on these tires? I spend 90% of my time hooked to a trailer and 10% is on gravel and dirt roads. Also plow snow in the winter.
I have towed with the Terrain Contact and it is very stable.
Which tire would you recommend between Cooper AT3 XLT, General Grabber ATX or Firestone Destination XT? Live in South Alabama. No snow, some icy roads occasionally, but mostly heat and tons of rain. Do a lot of back roads driving, drive 800-900 miles a week. Want a white letter tire other than a KO2 that’s capable and will last 50-60k with regular rotation. Drive a 2014 Silverado 1500 4x4 extended cab. Don’t tow often. Ran Nitto Ridgegrapplers 275/70/18 and have 73k miles on them. They were great but want something more road friendly but still capable of mild off road use. Thanks!
Grabber ATX all the way!
I know it but late but I live in Maine I got Chevy 1500 I run a 8.2 boss v plow in winter plow residential driveways and summer we Owen a farm and we have swapped all ower trucks to the general grabbers atxI still running a set of there older grabber at2 they get great trip mud and snow they compare to the bfg just with out the big price tag last just as long long as u rotate them when u should I'm very happy with them and I'll be putting a new set on soon as these are finished
Awesome!
I have worn a set of tires til the wires were showing, but normally wont let them that far.
Just put a set of the Continentals onto my new 2020 Ram 2500. Love them so far. Could not wait to get rid of those Firestone's. Also looked closely at the Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT.
Awesome. I think we are on the same page.
I've ran and do run the general grabber at on my f250 super duty 7.3 and tow a 8000 lbs fifth wheel and love them great traction in all weather and ware like iron
Finally; the video I’ve been waiting for. ATX vs KO2. If the KO2 had BOTH a mileage warranty as well as the 3-peak rating in the same tire, it would be a no-brainer. It’s my opinion that they look the best and are well proven. Although the ATX has a 2-ply sidewall vs. the KO2’s 3-ply (load rage D & E), I’ve read multiple times on the net where it’s two 1500 denier plies vs KO2’s three 1,000 denier plies (same overall thickness). I’ve also seen multiple points of feedback that suggest the ATX is absolutely phenomenal in the snow, even compared to the well known KO2. I think the Terrain Contact AT looks like it’s a half step above your Transforce AT in traction. I’d love to see a legitimate, non-biased, on & off road review between the ATX & KO2.
I wonder how many people will suggest tires OTHER than these three...
Thanks for the Vote. Lots of people suggested tire other than these.
ATX has a 3 ply sidewall. Says so on tirebuyer.com and I asked them to confirm because I've seen so many people claim what you do. They balance better than KO2 as well and have much better road manners and wet/snow traction.
@@jesseashmore8426 Ok, post the link that supports your claim that the ATX features a three-ply sidewall.
Skip to 3:55.
th-cam.com/video/wiZXzx-SuyA/w-d-xo.html
@@Icutmetal www.tirebuyer.com/education/new-general-grabber-a-t-x says it in the first paragraph. Tire rack says 2-ply construction. General website doesn't say anything . Guess you'd have to call general themselves, but tirebuyer confirmed their claim when I asked them.
@@jesseashmore8426 They’re wrong.
Out of your group, I would choose the General Grabber ATX owned by Continental, close to what I use
I run Nitto Ridge Grapplers, maybe you could do a quick side by side on those
I wanted to stay in the Continental family, but I fell in love with the Nitto Ridge Grapplers
BFG owned by Michelin lowered the durometer on the K02 making the the tread softer like a snow tire to get the snowflake symbol that doesn't help much ,and they wear out twice as fast because of thIs, like driving winter tires in the summer, not good and they get ripped to shreds off-road on rocks and gravel
I wish I would have read the small print on the requirements for the snowflake symbol before I bought the BFG KO2's they are useless on ice and hard packed snow
I copied and pasted the whole snowflake symbol :requirements at the end of this comment,
Here's a piece I copied and pasted from below
(Testing measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow only.
Braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test)
THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A TIRE FOR BOTH WINTER AND SUMMER, I LIKE MOST PEOPLE TRIED TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL TIRE THAT'S EXCELLENT ALL YEAR ROUND, REQUIRING NO WINTER TIRE CHANGES
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TIRE DOESN'T EXIST
I run
Nitto Ridge Grappler for spring, summer, fall as I have a 4runner , and don't want to get stuck in the spring and fall wet ground, looking like a idiot, like I did with the BFG KO2's , useless in light mud too
And for winter I run
Continental VikingContact 7 , driving on these in the winter, is like driving on Nitto Ridge Grappler in the summer, they are that good, except for the off-road part
It cost the same in the long run to buy 2 sets of tires as, they will last as long collectively as 2 sets of all season tires
and 4 times a long as BFG KO2's , as they last about half as long as other tires in the group
Only extra cost is another set of rims
I use those ugly steel wheels for winter as they will be covered in muck anyway, and if you slam into a curb or huge pot hole under the snow the cheap steel rim will bend and take the damage, not your suspension, and you will have no trouble matching them for cheap, if one does get eaten by winter
My friend runs Continental TerrainContact AT, they don't have a snowflake symbol , but are better in the winter than the K02's that he replaced too, we both bought the BFG KO2's for looks, but the new Nitto Ridge Grappler looks a lot better
He was surprised, and so was I that the Nitto Ridge Grapplers are as quiet and performs as well on pavement as his Continental TerrainContact AT's, and of course mine are far superior off-road
His next set is going to be the Nitto Ridge Grapplers and getting Continental VikingContact 7 snow tires like I did, as the Continental TerrainContact AT's, aren't even close to them in winter 1 out of 10 compared to the Continental VikingContact 7 as you would expect
Here is the snowflake symbol requirement:
A three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) symbol branded on a tire's sidewall indicates the tire meets required performance criteria in snow testing to be considered severe snow service-rated. Originally used as a designation for winter tires, the 3PMSF symbol is now featured on some all-season and all-terrain tires with snow performance that meets the testing criteria.
Testing measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow only. Braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test.
Tires branded with the 3PMSF symbol are expected to provide improved snow traction beyond a standard M+S branded all-season tire.
Note: 3PMSF-branded all-season and all-terrain tires cannot match the traction of dedicated winter / snow tires in all winter weather conditions and should not be considered a replacement for where and when a dedicated winter tire is needed
My 2 cents
Man, this was a very good explanation. I'm with you. I need to get you on a video!
Congratulations on winning the award for the longest comment ever in a TH-cam video
Can i all what size tire do you run because I can't find any continental viking 7 winter tire for a vehicle that can fit KO2 tires aswell.
@@myharley5616www.1010tires.com/Tires/2018/Toyota/4Runner/4-Dr-Sport-Utility-SR5/265-70R17-113S/172208?manufacturer=Continental&model=Viking+Contact+7
you could also use this calculator to minus size to get one to fit, you never wrote the size you need
www.1010tires.com/Tools/Tire-Size-Calculator
@@Elite_Employee THANKS FOR THE WONDERFUL COMMENT ON TIRES, VERY INSIGHTFULL
My opinion will go to the BFG please do your self a favour and read the reviews of the changes they made to this tire. Fantastic quality
I sat in on a training meeting where they discussed the changes. I think it will be alot better.
@@CampusautoCo You should tell us what all those changes are. I have only heard bits but nothing more.
I know you have already picked, and I agree with your choice. But one other factor to consider is how much the tire weighs. A tire that is 10 - 15 lbs heavier will adversely affect both your mileage and stopping ability. LT tires are usually heavier than P rated tires.
Great point!
yeah but on a 2500 or 3500 P tires aren't an option, so moot point on that front
@@CampusautoCo NOT in this case is isn't. You don't put a P tire on a 2500.
Great channel….I have a 21’ ram 2500 and tow a 9k travel trailer….I am putting new tires on and will run them year round.
Would you still recommend the Open Country AT3’s over the BF K02’s?
Thanks
I have an A/T tire on my truck now, but the MPG's are terrible. I went from 20mpg highway to 17.5 mpg. I think im going back to a road tire next. I dont go off-road that much anyway.
Nice tire review!! - Which of these tires do you think would give you the best MPG? Thanks
Terrain Contact AT
Just ordered 4 General Grabber ATXs for my 4Runner. I'm switching out Michelin LTX M/S2s. I was choosing between Falkin Wildpeaks and Hankook but recent Consumer Report 2020 Tire Reviews had me looking at the General Grabbers.
Awesome!
You won't regret man!
How do you feel about them grabbers a year later. I just ordered the atx c load for my 4runner
I run the Toyo RT in the same size, but the Continental will last the longest out of those 3. I like all 3 of those as well. You could get the DT tread version of the KO2, but you lose the 3 Peak Snowflake rating. These are 3 great tires. I would love to see you run the ATX and give feedback as you put more miles on them.
Thanks for the Vote.
This helped me pick my next tire for sure
cool
I am located in Colorado and have an 04 suburban 2500 that I mostly use for towing an 14” enclosed trailer and passengers . That being said the family likes to take weekend excursions camping and we like to go off-road...nothing extreme just not roadside campgrounds. So do I go for the continentals or more for the grabber? What is your recommendation. Thanks I’m advance!
Go for the grabber!
My son went to Toyo tires on his F350 and is getting good traction (he plows and tows and heavy equipment trailer for work), better MPG and better tire life about 40K now compared to 23K on Ford stock tires.
Thanks for the info.
HMM I’m in the same situation. I am stuck between the Michelin AT load E and also the Continental. Any thoughts out there?
I put the Grabber ATX on my ZR2 and absolutely love them. And I haven't taken them off-road yet, but went thru 10" of snow with zero problems. I bought them about a year ago and I think they were the highest rated in virtually all categories at that time under the "On & Off-road" group. I love the sidewalls and I put the solid white letters "in" not to attract thieves, yet still have so many "regular" people... like at supermarkets... pizzerias... corner stores... all rubbernecking or asking about them.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback!
I know this is 3 years later, but if you did less towing what would you have gone with?
Awesome review. Im still pretty torn between the terraincontact at and the general grabber atx. Im in canada, where winter tire are mandatory so i wont be using them in the winter so dont care to much about the snow performance( own a set of nailed general grabber arctic ). Im making around 15K km a year wich around 1000 to 1500 are in dirt/gravel road to go at my hunting camp. Wich one would you choose between thise 2 set ? Thanks for the amazing review 🤘
Ohh and I forgot to tell that I have the opportunity to buy a set of 4 pre owned atx and 1 new ( around 8000km and still at 12/32 and 14/32 for the new one ) for 1200$ Cad. Should I pull the trigger on this deal ?
Definitely the KO2 I’ve had mine for a few years out 40,000 miles on it and it’s still got a lot of rubber left to it not the greatest for mud but will get you through for the most part it’s a B plus to A plus in every other aspect
It was a hard choice but I went with the Conti
@@CampusautoCo how are they? I'm trying to pick tires for my Tacoma
I replaced some Goodyears with plenty of treadlife with the Continental TerrainContact A/Ts and I gotta say my truck rides like a new truck and I can leave it in 2WD mode most of the time and be confident that I'm not going to spin out on a little bit of snow or ice or hydroplane every time it rans like I did in the Goodyears. Granted, Goodyears tires are not my first (or even top 10) brand for tires, but the difference in ride quality was quite surprising and they don't break the bank too badly.
I was also considering the Nokian all terrains and the Cooper AT3 LTs as well (which has similar tread, good for light off-roading but not overly aggressive to where highway performance is bad). I did not get the BFG because I have friends who said they got around 10k on a set and did fine on Coopers, which are softer and don't last as long as some others.
The Coopers cup real bad. I'm not sure about the Nokians.
@@CampusautoCo I have a friend who goes with Nokians on his truck because of that with no problems. I've used Nokians on various cars over the years and they're great, it's like having a snow tire that you can run all season long and they aren't too expensive either, ride's not the best but not bad by any means etc.
Idk, those Terrain Contacts look classy to me, sharp lookin tire
I like them
I know its an older video but the Continental will ride better and give you a better driving experience.
Just not the more aggressive look the other tires may give off. The BFG KO2's is what I had last on my GMC 3500 w/5th wheel and I was none impressed AT ALL!! When I said something to Discount Tire the rep said my Ranch Hand Bumper is really heavy and was likely the cause of the quick and uneven wear LMAO!
So I decided if I cant find a tire that last like they claim then I may as well just put some big mud tires on the truck and except having to change them sooner than I would like to.
I decided to buy some 33's mounted on the factory rims, also these tires where made in China and only cost me $160 a piece installed (Deep Diggers) and I have to say I was very pleased with them for the price and the way the tires handled.
It comes out to practically the same money when I buy 2 sets over 50,000 miles. Plus I get newer tires twice and the nice new look twice in the same time period. Never again will I pay almost $400 a tire after all their fees and warranty B.S.
That's an interesting choice. I understand where you are coming from.
Your comment about Grabber being squirmy is exactly what my KO2s feel like on the highway. Put 2k miles on them and hate them on highway driving.
Any suggestions on the alignment to help with this?
Try reducing your air pressure. What kind of truck do you have, what size do you have, and what air pressure are you running?
@@CampusautoCo 2015 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport, went up one size to 265/70/17, load range C BFG KO2 tires. Had Toyota do rebalance on tires and alignment done. Assuming they did tire pressure to spec on sidewall. Someone advised doing a positive caster. This is my first truck, the stock Dunlop Grandtrek tires were very smooth. Once I moved to these KO2s, it feels squirrelly and uneven on the highway. Love the look of the tires but the ride quality is terrible.
Any more thoughts?
@@uwhusky112 The air pressure spec for your truck is on the drivers door pillar probably 35 psi). The air pressure listed on the tire is for the maximum load the tire is designed for (probably 50 psi). If they are aired to that you will risk premature wear on the middle section of tread and a very harsh ride. Are you sure your stock rims meet the width requirement of the tires you listed. I believe they call for a minimum rim width of 8".
Brad, I have a 2008 Dodge 3500 Dually. I have ran the old Firestone Transforce HT for the last 48,500 miles. I would like a little more traction since a dually spins on wet grass. I also have a 14,000 pound Fifth Wheel to pull. What tire would you recommend? Transforce AT2? Destination XT? Please let me know.
Try the new XT
If you want a highway tire, then the Michelin Defender LTX M/S is what you want to handle the torque of your diesel.
I don't like them for this application.
Just ordered ko2s for my 06 Cherokee , can’t wait to have them installed . 😀
Enjoy!
the very best you forgot my friend..the Yoko G015 ..try it , you'll drive it forever!
Thanks for the advice!
I have a 2010 Dodge Ram Crew cab hemi 5.7 and have 26,740 miles on it. I had to replace 3 tires from picking up nails werid metal pieces and 4 flats they were able to plug. Live in Il and have to drive it all season to doctors. Tire guy says plenty of tread and it’s hard on 7 liters of oxygen to change tires and usually happen in a city here replacements are from dealer and expensive. White letter BFG. I carry a air compressor that’s help me to get to tire center. Any ideas on why so many flats. Just went out to garage and front right tire is flat. It has the tow package in case I use it. My tire size is 275/60/20
You could try the General Grabber ATX
@@CampusautoCo I bought a set of Mich. tires and wow, my Laramie i though was quiet and now no noise and ride is so smooth. Looked down at speedometer on our highway that is a terrible mess because I felt like I was barely moving and I was going 85. I had Mich on all my cars. And did not realize they had them for trucks.
3 of the BF Goodrich tires I had replaced and I kept one all stamped made in 2017. Sad it made someone needing tires bad so time to get by. A buddy has a tow yard with two wrecked Laramie’s with my size rims and going to put that tire on and replace the temporary spare. Truck is spotless and I ordered every available option in July 2010 when they were Dodge Rams. Has the tow package, extra cooling radiator 3.92 rear end and tv in back and every option except the engine block heater. I had to ad a battery trickle since I don’t drive much, put a hard top cover with aero wing, carpet in rear and a pull out for my big oxygen tanks that feed to cabin. Added all kinds of chrome on pillars, bottom of black by running boards etc and yesterday had it waxed and clean and wanted to drive a Chevy 2500 of my buddies and followed him. Talk about a eye opener . Had no idea the rear line of lights and the running board lights that change from blue to yellow when in gear also blinked when turn signal was on. Now wonder everyone says they seen me here or there when I do go out. Stopped at dealer to look at used cad and no way would I trade. It be over 80 K to get all the options I have now, true bigger radio display, but be a hassle to adjust 12 way power seats from a computer screen.
The continental seems like it would fit your needs. If you want something a little more aggressive I have had great luck with Toyo open country ATs.
Thanks for the vote!
My dealer said the BFG KO2 has no warranty. I have the Grabbers on the SUV, but I ❤️ road noise. I’ve only had them for a few weeks and they do seem to pick up rocks.
Right on
The BF Goodrich KO2’s come with a 50,000 mile warranty. I have had 2 sets on a F150 4x4 and a set on a Jeep JK. No need for the warranty yet. I’m putting a set on my F350 FX4 lariat super duty this coming Monday. I have gotten 60K miles out of mine. They are fantastic in the snow and rocky terrain. Not a real muddier, but serviceable!
Wildpeak AT3! Have them on a box truck great tires for heavy loads and the best in the snow
Nice!!
They are more expensive than the k02's!
Little late to the game but yes the continentals will be the best for your type of driving I’m considering getting them for my wife’s jeep also
Thanks for the feedback!
I know you have already put them on your truck and all, but I am wondering why you would choose the Continental TerrainContact AT over the General Grabber APT
I didnt want two Generals in the same video plus sizing was an issue.
i love my ko2's, the only complaint i have about them is how long they last, but the softer rubber gives me lots of confidence in the snow so its the give and take of the tires
I agree. I know that BFG is updating the compound to last longer.
About to replace mine at 40k. Not happy about that. Loud as they get older too.
@@barryraven4745 What tires get quieter as they get older?
@@Icutmetal they’re actually horrible and develop noise/vibration. Speaking of vibrations, I’ve never had to balance tires as often. Road force too. I hate driving my vehicle now.
@@Abesta83 Weird; mine are doing fine at 40k+. It’s almost like you expect your experience to be representative of others.
I agreed with the continental tire, I would check more with that particular. thanks.
Either the continental tire or the general ATX. I’d stay away from the BFG only because I’ve seen 3/4 ton trucks wear them out within 30k miles. plus with either the general or conti is that you get a mileage warranty. If you still not satisfied with the options I’d highly recommend the Toyo at2. Great tire all around and long lasting tread. Also has a lot of good reviews on them as well. Just my two cents
Thanks for the vote.
How long did the continental stay quiet during its life? Did you develop any “wawa” noises? Thanks
I actually used all 3 on my f-350. And man i abuse this truck for over 75 thousand miles. I haul huge semi tires in the trunk and i can tell u this. The General grabber is ok for looks and it did its job but trust me if your using them for work and hauling over 2500 pound on a regular basis it will only last maybe 35-45 k. But the continentals are past 40 thousand and still have plenty of life in them even in Chicago winters. Plus im getting about 2 mpg better on the highway compared to the grabber
Thanks for the real world feedback and the vote!
Nice review. What would be the difference of a 285/60R20 over a 275/60R20?
The 285 will be wider and a little taller that the 275
@@CampusautoCo ok great!
10mm
I have had BFG k02s and those dam things got nails and punctures all the time. The Goodyear wrangler silent armor or all terrain adventure is a awesome tire ! No punctures in 6 years ! Tough tire with Kevlar and white letters. Now I’m trying out some hankook AT2s and they are pretty tough almost as tough as the wranglers but loud and more rough but cheaper. My truck has 4 Michelin defenders on it and they ride awesome and quiet but snow traction is average and they are very expensive. But are proving to be puncture free and handle high speed and aggressive driving.
Awesome. Thanks for the real world feedback! What kind of truck is it?
Campus Automotive Inc 2001 F-150 supercrew 4wd with 251k on it. I also want to tell you that the hankook dynapro AT2 comes in the XL option with white letter. That’s what I have on my wife’s suv. They told me it means xtra load. So it’s a more heavy tire and rides rougher but totally acceptable for price
BFG K02DT is out now on my first set see how the harder compound does. lost three peaks, but has 50000 warranty.
It will be interesting. I hope they get their reputation back!
BFG changed their compound and now offers both the 3PMS and 50k mileage rating.