BODY LANGUAGE: A Conversation on Race + Restoration in the Body of Christ
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Dr. Anita sits with Christine Caine for a conversation about race and the church that will change the way that you see EVERYTHING?
From its inception, the American church has been divided by race. We want to remember 2020 as the moment in history when the end of this division truly began and an intentional journey back to what the Word says started.
You are likely to be surprised by what you hear in this conversation. Bring an open mind and an expectant heart. You'll finish with more questions than answers but those questions will be the right ones!
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Understanding of historical trauma of the black person in America is the key to changing the world view of the body of Christ.
I agree 100%
When she said the black person "wants to UNDERSTAND the truth" and the white person "wants to DO better". Now I see why my friends of color keep saying, read this, research this, UNDERSTAND us and our history. And I keep saying, ok but what can I DO?
This was very enlightening thank you for taking the time to explain and to share.
How can someone do if they don’t know?
@@rubygriffin2558 That's a good point. Something to think about. :)
This is powerful.
I never thought about the difference either. As a black woman, any time I have these types of conversations I always talk from a place of understanding historical contexts.
Comments that begin with "black person wants" or "white person wants" are inherently racist because they teach that all black or all white want the same thing. When contrasted directly like this they are very racist because it teaches as fact that black and white are different in a non-biological way.
The amount of affirmation, healing, freedom, and hope this conversation gave me I have yet to be able to express. This is just the beginning of true restoration we as the body get to see and be apart of.
Thank you
Thank you Frank. I am tired of having a cold heart and acting with indifference to the issues of race. I am from Canada and I have lived most of my life in other countries as a cultural minority including as a minority in the USA. But I have always been the most powerful person in the room because of my race. I want to use my power to raise up leaders from among the oppressed and the marginalized. Using my white privilege for my own gratification is an offense to God and keeps re-traumatizing my brothers and sisters of other races. This conversation needs to turn into change in laws, and financial policy and public policy.
Please forgive me Lord, and everyone who reads this, in advance for not being able to put words to effectively convey how much this meant to my heart (and likely the whole church community as well). What you have done here Dr. Phillips is an example of the beauty, love, and wisdom that is possible only with the Spirit of Jesus Christ residing flowing through them. I’m amazed. I’m also encouraged and, as a black man, look up in admiration and want to most definitely give you your props-while, at the heart of it, I’m only praising our Lord Jesus (who alone is worthy of praise) for his love which you artfully, and succinctly, express here. I could go on and on. No one may ever see this. Or maybe think I’m crazy. Lol. (I kinda am. Lolol) But this right here? This thang right here? This brought healing. This brought understanding. This is spiritual food and strength to walk in the Spirit in grace, forgiveness, and power in the protection of almighty God the Father. I pray this resonates throughout the whole body of Christ and fills us up so we love and unite as we should, and we can turn the tide to bring God the glory due his name.❤️💯
Now, it all makes sense to me!! Now I see it ALL in the faces of my black brothers and sisters!!!
Dr. Anita, thank you so much for sharing your heart so openly. Forgive me, forgive us. I am so sorry. I had no idea of the depth of the history. Even though I was raised in the south, followed Dr. King, I had no idea of how far this reaches. Thank you for educating me. As a wounded person, and yes wounded by Christians, I do hear you about trauma and not being heard. I am so anxious to hear more from you, learn more. We are all parts of the body of Christ, and one part cannot function without the other. God created us in His image with wondrous diversity. I believe that healing and restoration will happen. I will definitely check out Shaun King's site. God bless and keep you!
Dr Anita- I’m sitting here balling my eyes out. Thank you for giving expression to our pain in a way that everyone can understand;how racism is perpetuating without intention??? Wow! God be praised!!!Thank you 🙏🏾🌞💕
This was amazing. Dr I think you are the most brilliant and most effective communicator I’ve ever heard. I love your heart!
Dr. Anita, you are speaking from my heart. I'm so weary from having to convince people who "love me" that I'm telling the truth.
Dr. Phillips I just wants to say I thank God for you. If you only knew how much you are helping me today. BLESSINGS in Jesus name.
Absolutely incredible! Thank you, Dr. Phillips! Thank. You!!! I'm listening, learning and trying to take down racism in every nook and cranny in my soul and in my social circles.
This changed me! I read Toni Morrison's Beloved in 1993 and even wrote a paper on the loss of self of slaves. But it was just a head thing, it didn't go to my heart.
I didn't see the subconscious dehumanization IN MYSELF and how I viewed my black brothers and sisters until now.
WHAT A REVELATION!!! Thank you for sharing!
Dynamic Duo! Crossing those bridges. Ms. Cain, I receive your Propel newsletter. Dr. Phillip's thank you for continued healing in our culture. May God bless this union!!
Wow! Dr. Anita I am truly amazed at your gift. Please don't stop sharing!!!!
Literally, the most educational and useful piece of information that has been shared so far!!
EVEN as people of color we need to check our own mind to understand the subconscious thoughts and beliefs that we have allowed to creep into our belief systems! When you are fed something (as subtle as it may seem) over and over for many years, it changes the way that you see things.
This was my church today. I feel like "thank you" isn't even enough to let you know how much I appreciate this. My heart in any situation is always to figure out the "why". Why is a person responding this way? What are the roots of the situation? Because if we can't identify that, we can't truly heal and move forward. You've hit the nail on the head. I'll be sharing this with my circle because it's so important, and subscribed because I want to hear future conversations.
Thank you so much ladies; my sisters in Christ!!!
God is so good! I’m so thankful that He hears me when I pray. I have been in a whirlwind of emotions lately since diving deeper into my history and wanting to get answers. I’ve been so perplexed and I just needed some clarity on how to move forward without wasting energy on being bitter towards these individuals who may or may not even know what harm they’ve caused. Thank you so much! I’m going to watch this again and share this conversation. Thank you for being sensitive to the voice of God! The world needs this!
I cried so much the first time I saw this. This is my second time watching it and I'm crying again. Thank you Dr. Anita for your work and thank you Christine Caine for being a part of this dialogue. This is a life-changing dialogue that every person on the face of the earth needs to see. You will be edified and It will cause tears and repentance.
Dr.! You are a gift! I'm speechless...still processing all of the insight and truth you spoke into this issue. Thank you for sharing with us and teaching us!
I learned so much listening to this. My head knowledge grew, but it also dipped into my spirit and soul with truth. Thank you both.
Yaaaaaaaas!!!! Thank you 🙏🏾 for posting and sharing. My family used this video just last night as our Sunday Evening Ministry Study. Thank you and Christine Caine for your love of truth and healing. ❤️🙏🏾👏🏾😘🙌🏾
Wow this was so insightful and powerful thank God for these two women who wasn’t afraid to tell us the truth! God is speaking
I'm n tears right now with gratitude for this video! Ur a blessing & I'm excited my daughter has another godly example of an impactful female black psychologist. She's a 17 yr old college sophomore studying Psychology & I'm so excited for the representation u provide. All to the glory of God!
Thank you for informing us and helping us see how we can be part of the problem without that intention and what the best response is.
Dr Anita This is EPIC!!! I have a request. Can you break this video dialogue into smaller sections of videos? Unfortunately the younger generation and some older need to hear these gems but when they see the length of the video it deters engagement! And we need everyone to digest ALL of this! Thanks for your consideration. I hope my request makes sense.
I concur with Celina Quinone request and would like to purchase a copy of the tapes. I listened to the first tape that mysteriously appeared on my cell phone. Much of what Dr Anita Phillips articulated are things I heard our mother say about race issues in the church. My mother passed away in 1966 at 52. We were one of approximately 10 Black families reared in Anaconda Montana in the 40s and 50s. I was delighted when I heard Dr. Phillips articulated race in the scriptures! I am looking forward to listening to, sharing and discussing Dr. Phillips` tapes with some of my Psychology and Ministerial colleagues. Eventhough when I was in the Master's Program in The Institute of Black Catholic Studies at Xavier University, their classes on "Black Theology" just briefly touched on the correlation with Christianity never in as broad a way as your discussion did. I am delighted with the information on the tapes. Thank you so very much!
Sincerely
Rev. Dr. Fredericka Jackson
Celina C Quinones ......that’s a great observation! This conversation is SO necessary & relevant....I pray that many more will TAKE the time.....but some snippets released would probably reach so many more! Dr. Anita.......thank you SO much for this! Your wisdom, intelligence, passion and transparency are impeccable! Christine Caine.....thank you listening with a heart.....we can see that passion too!
YES 100000%!!!
This video should be played in malls, and public places everywhere in the United States. People need to process this information, digest it THEN allow it to feed their mind hearts and souls! This is on point like no other! Dr. Anita, You are The Chosen One for God’s language. I’m 60 years old and have been to all kinds of churches all over this country. Never Ever have I heard Christianity and it’s views by the “races” broken down like this! If this can’t be understood, I say simply, “( Shame).” I can only imagine God’s disappointment of us and our professing the Word, when we refuse to not allow the Word to speak loud and clear, plain and simple to our hearts. I’ll never forget when I was attending a Non Domination church in 07 and I had a church member friend in her early 60’s who was black and from Minnesota. She moved to CA and had been attending the church for a couple of years. One Friday sermon, the church music was playing and she began to dance to it. When the song was done, one of the leaders of the group, a female, called her aside and said, “ We can’t have any dancing in here.” When she shared that with me at a later date, I was floored. I’m like, “ How can someone tell you how not to worship God when you feel the Spirit??” It was The most bizarre thing I had heard in awhile.
AMAZING!!! The Holy Spirit can only have His full expression in the body of Christ only when there is true unity on every level. God is using this to truly prepare His Body, His Bride for His coming! We’re being perfected! Please let’s continue to pray that His perfect work be done in the Body so we can truly shine His light and glory...🙏🏽❤️
Christine Caine thank you for your humility! Beautiful!
When I was working in Lewisham I went to church on the Sundays and found that I was the token white. However, I found that I was made extremely welcome. However what saddened me is that so often the church divides itself by race when the scripture tells us that we are one body, one spirit, one faith, one Lord, one people and one nation. As a missionary in Nepal and India I found that the church had a real unity which transcended caste. Non-Christians were astounded when they saw Brahmins sitting next to low caste people. That is how the church should be. We should be showing the world how males and females, blacks and whites, Brahmins and Dalits, can love one another. I remember well a sermon when Ephesians 4 was the text. It ended with an invitation to the different castes to hug one another. The elder was asking high caste Nepalis to hug untouchables, which they did! I've never heard a congregation cheer at the end of a service like they did that day as the congregation took the words of the scripture to heart and fitted in to what the bible teaches. The Church has the answer to racism. Let's ensure that we share it with the world rather than being part of the problem.
This makes me so happy ❤️
Wow……what an articulate and brilliant description! “ we’re having a cultural, not a theological argument “. Thank you so much dear sister Dr Anita for the clarity, and dear sister Christine for setting the stage, and giving the voice. ❤❤❤
I just couldn’t help but cry. What an awesome speech. Dr. Anita is amazing. I pray for God to continue to use you in healing your fellow Americans. ❤️
Dr. Phillips, everything you said is what I have been trying to express and say. I also have traveled to Europe and Africa to understand the Cultural perspectives of religion. My goal is to understand a more deeper understanding of African Theology in Christianity, starting with the Kingdom of the People of Ancient Kemet and the people on the African Continent when it was called Alkebulan. Christianity and God's presence in Alkebulan before the Europeans named it Africa. I thank God for using you and giving you such Wisdom.
Wow! As a biracial woman, being born to a black woman and a white man I understand myself even better. Beautiful conversation! Powerful, enlightening And heartbreaking. Thank you!
Yes! Love is a verb! Action is my love language! We do need to get to the place where we focus on Kingdom over culture.
Wow!! Literally just searched for this convo, cause I wanted to share it with our very multi-cultural church connexions group to help bring a greater education, understanding, and common language for us to move forward with together. Cool that you just posted it! Thanking for sharing this and for your outstanding leadership in this critical season! 🙏🏼❤️
Dr. Anita, thank you. I thank God for you. I will pray for you as the Holy Spirit brings you to my mind. I could not stop watching this video. Absolutely revelatory, heart-rending, hopeful. My sister. There is so much in my heart, but all I can formulate to say is, I love you. And thank you.
I will be sharing this and encouraging people to watch this video.
Beautiful, heavy, hopeful.....so much here.
Trauma Informed Care for the group.
Thank you Dr. Anita Phillips.
Yes, God is moving. Dr. Anita you are absolutely correct we feed of action, stop talking. God is going to restore, but remember, the story of Jonah, when he does, we have to love back.
Dr. Anita, you spoke with so much love despite your hurt and this only brings glory to God. Than you for being that model and being that person to speak and show what has been wrong for so long and how we can also make a change with love for the glory of God 🙌🏾
Dr. Anita thank you thank you thank you. What you have shared has been eye-opening and breath of fresh air. Everything that's happening in the country/ world right now is in sync with the aching I've been feeling in my heart regarding racism in this country. Everything I've been feeling inside I am now seeing displayed this country and the world.
Love you Christine and Anita. Both if you ladies full of wisdom and truth. Not just in this discussion, dialogue but I other teachers I've heard from both of you. Keep pressing on sister's.
Absolutely relevant and inspired conversation! Best communication I’ve seen in my 44 years of life as a biracial woman in the US. I want to join this conversation!!
OMG! I can not even found the words to describe how..how..how..GREAT this is! Thank you Dr. Anita! Thank you Christine!
This has blessed my spirit in so many ways. I can’t begin to articulate them all. Thank you so much for putting our community on your back and speaking so eloquently on our behalf. My God keep you and strengthen you. I love you!
Dr Anita! this was transformational. breaking it all the way down!!!!!
OMG. This is all the truth. This needs to be played loud for so many others to here
A friend sent this and it what I share with people. We have so much trauma. The fact we have survived thus far is a testament of God's mercy and grace.
Dr. Phillips, THANK YOU SO MUCH! Where were you 55 years ago?! This information has enlightened and changed my mind, my thinking and my being, 360 degrees! I will not apologize for the color of my skin but I will apologize for my actions and indoctrination of family (upbringing) and that of others in my life and never standing up for you. I knew deep down inside that my thoughts were wrong, but I perpetuated this thinking but I never truly saw your side, where it came from. Why am i not running to the wound body and help with the healing? I now have a clearer understanding! I'd love to know more, I want to have the conversation with others in my life! Can't wait to hear more from you!
I've never heard such a profound explanation of what is going on in our world right now! Thank you for answering questions I've been asking of myself for years.
Dr Anita, you are a gift to the body of Christ. Thank you for having this very important conversation.
We must judge things...
Not people 💯❤🌞💯
Thank you so much for making this available on TH-cam!! Sharing with everyone!
We are truly destroyed for lack of knowledge. Dr. Anita, thanks for sharing the revelation that God gave you. God always raises Christian leaders needed at the right time. I’m going to continue to follow both of you because I believe this approach will bring healing to the Body of Christ and all people in America. Talking, listening, really hearing, believing, and acting is an expression of love for each other’s pains that will bring restoration. I will need to listen to this again to write down the resources recommended. It would be helpful if you would please post them here for everyone. Thanks again for both of your obedience to God to share this information!
Dr. Anita you are AMAZING!!! You have encouraged me to keep moving forward in my studies. I am in the middle of a fast and this pops up. I was already crying my eyes before I watched this...huh... just thank you both so much for this post. Love you both!!!💕
I can't begin to express to you how profound this was for me on so many levels. It was an answer to prayer that I have had for so long. This will have an impact on my life. I pray God will use it to His glory. Thank you, and I look forward to your book.
Dr. Phillips,
This was delivered so gracefully, profesional, and real. As a Christian Social Worker, I appreciate this so much because I don’t know how to put into words what you presented perfectly. May the Holy Spirit speak to those listening to this.
Beautiful, heartbreaking, and powerful. I hear you, am humbled, and want to be a part of the healing.
Absolutely powerful. Dr. Phillips is truly an anointed gift to the body of Christ.
Thank you Christine Caine and Dr. Anita for bringing refreshing learning and perspective in these times! Love the entire video as a social worker! Loved the details and digging into these hard topics. May the Lord move all people regardless of their world views to love others and speak up for injustices. Thank you both for sharing truths and things people need to hear! May God be with you and may many people renew their minds and learn and grow from this video! May the Lord bless you my sisters! 👏🙌🙏❤️
This was the best discussion by far on the current race topic with an emphasis on a christian perspective.. strongly encourage everyone to listen and increase your understanding and appreciation of Dr. Anita's Phillip's sound teaching.
This was so well said, eye opening, profound and needed! Thank you Dr Anita! This needs to go viral!
Beautiful. Thank you for your example Pastor. I am praying for you both.
This is the best conversation on this subject I’ve heard. Thank you Dr Anita so much - I want to learn and I hear your heart. I’ve shared with many
I appreciate you having these VITALY important conversations with our white Bros/Sis in the Body of Christ. Glad that she is willing to have the tough civil discourse
I am so grateful for your life right now Mrs Anita. This is so good! Literally ever human should see this
Thank you for breaking this down Dr Anita Phillips. You have explained this so well, to those who do not understand what is going on with Black Americans. This message touch my heart. Thank you Christine for being so brave to discuss this topic with Dr Anita Phillips. You both are appreciated very much! Change Will Come Here On Earth
Life changing, I understand my struggle and pain. Restoration. I will be sharing!
Dr Philips is gorgeous. That was so deep.
I trust both of you. Please give us more so we can learn. I don’t have the words for all the feelings this stirs up. Just wow. God is moving. I pray there is healing in the body. Let it begin with me.🙏🏻
This is so powerful. And yet so true thank You Chris and Dr Anita wow thank God for Jesus
Thank you so much for this. I’m thankful God had use that time with the faculty for you to have an interest in studying culture world views. These are golden nuggets. As a black women I have gain more knowledge about restoration to trauma. It makes so much sense!
This was so amazing- it broke my heart and got through to my heart at the same time. I am so sorry for having not understood this before now! Thank you, Dr. Anita for having patience to keep trying to help me understand. Please help us continue to know how to repent, love and be a part of restoration.
What a powerful talk. Makes such a difference in my understanding. Thank you both!
This wealth of knowledge Dr Phillips is just so insightful!!! Love Christine Cain, love everything about this session.
I love that..."therapist give language to experiences that people have no words for."
Such an amazing conversation!! I'm so grateful for honest conversation and open hearts! Thank you for helping us understand ourselves!!
Sobering, truthful, heartfelt and wonderful conversation!
Thank you for this Dr Phillips. So insightful and educating. Thank you.
I HAD to share this with as many individuals I know including leaders. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
Powerful!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
My God ... thank you Dr Anita and Christine 🕊💜
One of the best, most informative and most powerful conversations I’ve heard in recent weeks. Thank you for this!
I was truly blessed and educated by this dialogue. Thank you!
There is an inordinate amount of information in here that I was never taught growing up, nor would I have ever known I needed to research it. You don’t know what you don’t know.
Also, it is a sobering reality to hear Dr. Anita’s grandmother’s life overlapped Harriet Tubman. I mean, let that really sink into your mind.
I’m ashamed to say the words “that was so long ago” have left my mouth, but they never will again. You know what that statement is? It’s justification of us turning a blind eye (maintaining silence) to the pain, suffering, injustices, and gross mistreatment of other HUMAN BEINGS.
Only 400 views!? Unbelievable how good this is, it needs to be viral
We're up 1.2K, let's keep sharing it and posting it😇
Thank you for this ....very enlightening, and especially loved the comment....”Black peoples’ love language is action..... eye opening for me. Thank you for passing along resources and names of people to follow. I will listen to this again and pass along to my Christian friends.... thank you
One of my Caucasian friends sent this to me. I feel so blessed that my words of saying in 2016 election “you don’t get it” stuck with her. Now this woman is bringing it! I am in awe and love that she took the time to listen to this. This recording even helped me. Amazing. Thank you! And I am subscribed now. 💕
Thank you so much, I need that, going back to school for counseling, I have ran from, my God given gift. So many reasons, people need to understand truth or where to start the truth. It is so much.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH EVERY SECOND OF THIS!!!
Real talk!
Thank you!❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽
Wow I have no words for how brilliant and true this is. Thank you Jesus
Thank you for this video. This needs to be seen by everyone.
Thank you for sharing this! I watched the entire conversation last week and it was on point. 💛
Excellent discussion! Thank you both; most especially Dr. Phillips!! God bless you both!
Not even 20 minutes in and I'm like, wow 😳. This is amazing. 💯👏🏾
I am a life long Christian since 8 years old and now am 67 years old. Never in my lifetime have I heard a person of color with such good credentials and understanding explain the underlying cause of racism. God bless you Dr. Phillips for opening up my eyes. Many tears flowed along with a prayer of repentance for even what I did not know. All people need to hear this to begin a real unifying of the body of Christ!
I confess to having had this thought and have recently learned how to correct it so it is a true compliment. Instead of saying I’ve never heard “A POC with such good credentials and understanding...” just say you’ve never heard a PERSON with such good credentials and understanding. Otherwise it implies/reveals that we expect a POC to be uneducated or inarticulate. (We need to not only correct this in our speech but challenge this implicit bias in our hearts as well). Only just learned this myself. Hopefully I understand it correctly!
@@anniesmith7957 with all due respect, I felt I needed to expressly say a POC as that is germane to my thought as it came from someone who has gone through this struggle all their life. If a white person had said the same thing it still may have been true but not from the perspective of a person who has/is going through what they are talking about. So at least in my mind, identifying this person as a POC was important to my thought. But I would agree with you that I have in the past referred to a person identifying their color (like black) when it didn't matter to the conversation. That, I now know did single them out for their skin color which is not my intent now. But I had to learn that one a while back. Hope this clarifies my thinking somewhat.
Jerry Iverson that makes more sense. Glad you clarified.
@Lakeisha Carter let me say that I do know what the intent of my heart was when I wrote the above statement and my desire was to compliment Dr. Phillips by acknowleding her credientials as her trauma therapy gave her (possibly) a unique ability to express the racism in a way a non educated person might not be able to do as well. That is why I acknowledged her credientials along w/ mentioning her being a POC also giving her much more insight. Having said that, I do sincerely apologise for offending anyone here on these comments. I could have stated something like I appreciated her education which gave her better ability to break it down for those like me who never understood it until I watched her. I do hope we can go forward in these emotionally charged times showing grace towards each other and at the same time be united together to fight racism. Not as black or white but as Americans. : )
Thank you for your warm response, I was hoping to not leave this with anything but a genuine feeling of love and unity especially within the body of Christ. God bless you as well Lakeisha!
THIS is so powerful. Thank you for having this conversation. I have to watch it a couple more times to even digest it all. It's put so many of my own thoughts and feelings into words. I agree with a previous comment. Please, please break this into smaller pieces to be shared. I want to be able to share. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
May this truth MAKE us freer 💯❤💯🕊💯
So good and NEEDED. Thank you both so much. This conversation is essential during this time.
OMG!!! I have been telling soooooo many of my friends and collegues about this live chat on Instagram!! Thank you all SO much for posting this. I am sharing this right now. Ladies, thank you, thank!!