Become The Bridge | A Conversation With Pastor Steven Furtick & Pastor John Gray | Elevation Church
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- “We have to speak. We aren’t going to say everything perfectly, but in a season like this, silence is agreement.” Pastor Steven Furtick and Pastor John Gray sit down to have a conversation about race, privilege, apathy, and what it will take to become the bridge to a better future.
We hope this message inspires you to have your own conversations in your home and community. We each have a responsibility to stand up in the face of injustice -- and equality will never be attained through silence.
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Become The Bridge | A Conversation With Pastor Steven Furtick & Pastor John Gray | Elevation Church
My love for this church has grown even deeper for bravery exemplified by this two ministers, Father's, husbands, uncles and more. Thank you for verbally, boldly , and humanely showing us what's it like to love Christ on both sides of the debate. I have a son and I easily get angry. Even now I'm tearing up because the fear of being killed unjustly is SO REAL! Thank you for showing us the answer is GODLY LOVE!
I live in South Florida and back in 2017 I was a Lyft driver. I picked up a client and as soon as she entered my vehicle I could tell that she was suffering from some sort of mental disability. And she talked and talked and we had such a great conversation that led me to Elevation Church & Pastor Steven Furtick. I had never heard of the church nor of Pastor Furtick. She found the latest message from that week on her phone and we listened to it for the ride. When we reached her destination we sat outside and before she left the vehicle she asked if we could pray. Now what she didn't know is that I had been on a journey to re-establish my relationship with God; I needed that connection. I'd been Church hurt so I stopped going to church. However, I never stopped praying and studying the word and communicating with God. That ride was purposed for my life. We prayed and she left the vehicle and I have been tuning in to Elevation Church ever since. I considerate Elevation my church home and so honored to be a part of the EFam. This conversation is exactly what I needed just as every sermon before. This conversation will be extended above and beyond the elevation stage because it is filled with the love of the Almighty God. Love is what the Lord commanded us to do, to love one another and this conversation teaches that it can't just be by word but it must also be by action. Thank you Pastors!
Thank you for watching, Ali. We have to speak. We aren’t going to say everything perfectly, but in a season like this, silence is agreement. ^EC Team
I needed to hear this today. So thankful. My heart is no longer heavy.
King James Version
2nd John 1:6 And THIS IS LOVE,that we walk after his COMMANDMENTS.This is the commandment,That,as ye have heard from the beginning,ye should walk in it.(👈This is love according to the bible)
@@elevationchurch thank you for leading with love and hope.
When he said “Lay down the culture and pick up the kingdom!!” I said phewwww 🙌🙌🙌👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😩😩😩😩🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽☺️☺️
Amen! Same here! ♥️🙌🙏♥️♥️♥️
HUGS from Australia 🙏🙏🙏
Amen🙏❤
"The world has lost its ability for conversation because it's been so obsessed with clicks and comments." - Preach.
"We're not going to be able to heal this at the legislative level. This is not a legislative thing, you can't pass a law to change someone's heart." - Pastor John Gray
My friends lives matter too
You can but at the end of the day do not put your faith and trust in a broken system. Even Jesus said, ‘if they hate you know that they first hated me.’ We can try our best to fight for justice in the system but whether it can be fixed in a day or not should not discourage us or change our hearts towards Jesus where we begin to fall into pits of despair, hopeless or depression. Jesus is still King, still our hope and He definitely still died for you and me. We recognise the problem and we offer a solution but ultimately, we exalt Jesus over anything. I know many people that are guilt tripping others into signing this and that. Tbh we shouldn’t be begging others to support if it’s not in their hearts. We can pray that they are lead by the spirit to effect change in society but we cannot force or make them feel guilty for not doing so. Everyone has a free will and we should not change our character or compromise our values to coerce somebody into seeing things as we do. Instead by prayer and petition we shall make our requests known!
The truth is.. even the word won’t heal it. Healing evil isn’t the goal. Sin will remain here until we die. Passing laws will help hold the evil/ bad at heart accountable and responsible. The hope is for those consequences to decrease the amount of offenses not eliminate it. Sin won’t be cured until Jesus comes back, yo. We all know this.
Amen
I believe this is key to change. It starts in the houses of worship if change is to happen permanently.
"My blackness is weaponized before you know the character of my manhood."
"You can't pass a law to change someone's heart. That's why this conversation has to happen in the church because only the Holy Spirit can change the heart and change their mind and change their perspective and change their perception and give people value. Every single human being God ever created has the same inherent value. Because of the blood of Jesus, I have the same right to live, the same right to pursue my dreams as you." Powerful statements from Pastor John Gray.
I LOVE YOU IN CHRIST JESUS 🙏🏻🙌💙
John Gray should testify in Congress.
This is rich!!! I needed this!!
You better go get it!!!!!
Oh my!!!!!!! Maybe they didn’t catch it!!! I’m in tears!! I would love to stand next to such!!!!!
'You can't pass a law to change someone's heart" -Pastor Gray
Omg. So powerful. Let's change the world.
It indeed is, only Jesus can change hearts,we do have the work to share and speak on the word however uncomfortable it may be🙏🙌
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Let’s change the world, Amen! 🙏🙌
Jocelyn Velazquez yes! What we have is a sin problem. Sin cannot be eradicated, legislated or regulated. Only God can change a person’s heart.
That was so powerful
“PLEASE DON’T LIMIT MY GOD TO YOUR EXPERIENCE”!!!!!! Hallelujah!!!!
LOVE IT!!
“Maybe we don’t know the difference between guilt and repentance” MY MY MY preach 🙌🏾
“Just because I didn’t experience it, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist”.
Arielle Nonette now that’s a mouthful & sho nuff the truth
It works both ways. White people experience these things as well and it is a bit frustrating that the issue of police brutality is instead a racial issue.
@@jtfike hey love..I absolutely DO NOT doubt that you guys go through this or anything similar, we just do not know about it, I myself have not experienced it, closely experienced it, or saw it. BUT, NOT TO SAY IT DOES NOT EXIST. Police brutality is WRONG, it does not matter the race. We are all human and do not deserve to be mistreated, PERIOD. If we can all get together & stay 2gther in a positive way, we will be able to turn this thing IN THE RIGHT WAY..peace, love, & blessings to you my love
Who exactly is saying “because I’ve never myself seen X, it doesn’t exist?” What a ridiculous pretense.
J L That quote actually doesn’t refer to any particular situation. It means that just because you haven’t experienced it yourself, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. That can be said for many problems that people stand in denial of. But I would also like to add that pointing out your problem, doesn’t somehow diminish ours. How about you fight for both instead of belittling?
Sitting here at midnight and I needed this restoration of hope.
Love for you and all ❤️
I pray for peace for you and your community
You're an Israelite according to the bible.
Same 😭🙏
💛💛 we will not stay silent
Just 10 mins b4 coming across this vid, with a feeling of anger and not understanding, I prayed to God for him to send me understanding and to take this anger from me. Woohoo praise his holy name and his love for me he lead me to this vid. Thank you lord for answering my prayers. Thank you gentlemen for being HIS voice in a "world of silence"
I'm glad He did. 💜
God bless you brother ❤️
Amen!
Thank you for sharing your experience.
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Whoever is reading this I pray for peace, wisdom, understanding, knowledge, and great health. May we come together and walk in unity so we can have love for one another.
Amen
Thank u. It is needed.
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Had to repeat 20:04 over and over again. "You can't pass a law to change someones heart." Thank you, Pastor John. Thank you.
....we can be Jesus to the World, He came to set the captives free.
“If I celebrate the diversity but never address the disparity thats hypocrisy.”
“Please don’t limit my god to your experience” Amen
that part 🙏🏽
Amen!
Tears are falling as I realize I was letting my mind & heart be filled with despair in that same way your sons was. Thank you for being so open so people like me can learn more and be able to stand up and really “move”. Thank you SF for taking the responsibility you have. Bless you. I will move....
"We have lost this art of conversation because we've replaced it with clicks and comments" This hit home for me. We're no longer talking to each other; we're talking AT each other. Thank you for this video.
“You can’t pass a law to change someone’s heart” so powerful!
"You can't legislate someone to like you, they're just going to find another way not to like you" ~Bishop Michael Pitts
I am still listening
Thank u pastor gray and pastor furtick
You Don't Have To Like Someone But You Have To Give Them Common Courtesy And In South Africa You Can Fined Or Go To Jail For Your Racism And That's For Anybody And In America We Need These Laws.
But we can make policies that protect young black men from being murded🙏 I totally agree with you that laws will not change hearts but they do stop murder and child abuse many times.
"The tears of Black mothers keep the grass at graveyards green". Pastor Steven thank you from the bottom of my heart for you doing this. Having an open, vulnerable, honest conversation that MUST be had and it must start in the church. You are courageous and it's so appropriate this occurred on Pentecost Sunday, I know you were led by the Holy Spirit. God bless you and be a fence all around you!
Stephanie Ferrell my heart goes out to all mothers that lose children; you don’t have to be red, black, or white losing a child is has got to be a heartache that only the Lord can heal ❤️❤️❤️
Grieving alongside you
Well said
Tears are salty it would kill the grass.
@Bob Haley well said amen 🙏
YOU CAN'T PASS A LAW TO CHANGE SOMEONE'S HEART☑️☑️
"JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED IT, DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST"
"PLEASE DON'T LIMIT MY GOD TO YOUR EXPERIENCE"
these are quotes from the video. AMEN
God has already passed a law to change your heart. If you read it and you follow by it your heart will be changed. Not this man's law but God's law
Love and forgiveness have to happen and I pray for peace and Love and understanding for us all in the family of Christ and it's in His name I pray amen 🙏🏻🙌💔Love never fails.
1 John 2:9 “Those who say that they are in the light, yet hate their brothers and sisters, are in the darkness to this very hour.” How can we call ourselves Followers of Christ and keep being ignorant to the cries of our brothers and sisters. Why should it take a knee on the neck for people to react. Thank you for this message ❣️ Please pray for West Papua also. There’s a genocide going on in West Papua. Please please please pray for the freedom for the people. All Lives Matter. ✊✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿God created our skin tone with beautiful variety, but our souls are the same colour. There’s only one race, that’s the Human Race. More churches should address this, it’s not a political issue, It’s a spiritual warfare. We need repentance, revival and restoration in the hearts of people, and that’s not something that can be changed by law and order, but through Prayer and Repentance
Agree!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼☮️
But now you've got to decide on who is your brothers. Are the ones that follow Satan your brother? Or just us who follow Christ. There is a line being drawn and you can read about it in the Bible. It's happening right now and a lot of us are going to the wrong side. Who is your brother? That answer will give you what side you're on.
ADONIJAH - Jesus didn’t just die for the Christians, he died for all mankind. So who am I to judge who is good and who is bad? That sit belongs to God. The bible teaches us love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us. I consider everyone my brothers and my sisters. There is no such thing as a side, if there is, than it’s those who know Christ and those who don’t. we should be sharing the good news with those who don’t know Christ. There is no US & THEM. It’s just ALL OF US. God loves us all the same, and he sent his son Jesus to die for all our sins. So to answer your question, you are my brother just as much as a non-Christian is my brother. We need to stop seperating ourselves and calling ourselves Christians and start loving one another regardless because that is what the bible says. God bless you.
@@lolagamoga9792 The bible separates believers and non believers qui[te extensively. It even gets to the detail of eating sacrificed meat, it discusses how addressing sin is different, and it addresses holding others accountable in different fashions. We are all one body "in christ". Those who are not in christ aren't a part of the body.
Heaven will be filled with people from every ethnic background and colour.
"Only the Holy Spirit can change their hearts". 🙏🙏🙏
Well said, Pastor John.
YES SO TRUE the SILENCE OF THE CHURCH'S NEEDS TO BE BROKEN
This event has shaken me to the core! God help my black, brother’s and sister’s. This is not right what on earth was that man doing let justice be Riches’s
He probably lost some followers because of this sermon but still had the courage and tenacity to do it. Thank you pastor Steven and elevation church for being a light the world needs right now. Share this video with everyone
If people get offended then they need to fall on the side. GOD will deal with them. GOD hates injustice 😔
Losing followers for speaking TRUTH .. is their loss !!! God be with them, until they realize & come back! (for THEIR sakes) !
It's my prayer that for every person he lost- if in fact he does, they will be replaced by 100 BECAUSE of the way he used his platform!🙏🏽
Amen @God will be with them until...
He just gained a follower right here! ❤️
All the way from South Africa. I often ask myself this question "is the church relevant to the modern day society? Looking at how the church responds to social injustices in the world. This is refreshing to watch.
Also from SA.. We are called to act justly, love mercy and to walk humble with our God. Let us, the body of Christ be first to change!
I'm a South African living in South East Asia for the past 6 years. And I had given up on reconciliation and that's one of the main reasons I left.
However, I have a beautiful Lao family and this conversation made me cry so hard. I have become numb and accepted the hate and despair, BUT I thank the holy spirit and the grace of God that my eyes are opening and I'm trading my stone heart for one of flesh. I know God is sovereign and always faithful and what the enemy intends for evil, HE will & CAN use for good! Impossible has never stopped Him and miracles is what He specialises in. I pray for a paradigm shift in the hearts and minds of ALL SOUTH AFRICANS IN JESUS NAME! ✝️🇿🇦✝️🌍✝️🖤✝️🇿🇦✝️
Check out Pastor At Boshoff, Senior Pastor of CRC founded in S.A. He is just as passionate about social injustices especially in SA...
This hit me so hard, 😭😭🙏🏿thank you so much.
May God heal South Africa as He heals the US.
im also from South Africa...WOW this is heartfelt...This is amazing that issues are addressed from a church perspective...it is so easy to fall into the trap of "what doesn't concern you, let it be" it affects all of us human beings... we are all created in the image of God. If God was all about colour, none of us would be here...I always find myself going to the bible when the issue of race comes into play...i often wonder, How many people realise that Simon of Cyrene, who helped Jesus carry his cross, was actually a man of colour...and yet JESUS (saviour of the world), accepted help from a man who was not a typical portrait of the man we envisage.
"Your presence, culture and tithe is good but your pain is not!" I feel this, man.
I needed this.
My heart is on fire. I have been “in church” all of my life and have NEVER heard a conversation or message like this. EVER (at 46 years old). I have often wondered and asked God why pastors, church leaders, congregants want to act like race and racism don’t exist or it really isn’t affecting their members and therefore is something they don’t have to acknowledge or address! This conversation is TRUTH. Lord please let this video spread like wildfire throughout the Church, and change the hearts and minds of Your people. Thank you pastors for doing this. Please don’t stop. We need it.
Well said.
As a Black woman, I just want to say THANK YOU for having this conversation ON YOUR PLATFORM and for your global congregation. NEEDED. 🙏🏽
As a white woman, I agree
TAMISH I agree with you because we can't do it by ourselves because they (white ppl) don't hear us but it took for American to be burned down for ppl to see how our black woman and men are killed so easy without a second thought by the police in broad daylight with cameras rolling
As a woman that has seen much hurt in this world I agree, God bless us all, & protect our families, bring children back, cast out evil spirits right now in Jesus'/Yeshua's Mighty name Amen & Amen! We need to help each other, & lift each other up! make it happen.
@@lynnuhase7931 Shut up, you people are just nasty and don't get it.
I was so moved
“Guilt is not a strategy.” We need to know repentance. Amen pastor furtick!!!!
Pastor John:"[My mom has] never brought bitterness home, she always brought hope home. And she taught the same with me. "
God is giving us a chance to fix our hearts and love one another, we were summoned to build our family and personal relationships because of corona, now, we are being summoned to deal with our hearts and treat our neighbors as we would treat ourselves ❤️ Head warnings of correction and love one another so that we can do what we were born to do.🙏🙌We all have to do better with certain behavior, seperation and blindness to injustice everywhere. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly."- Martin Luther King
When God created humankind, He didn't say let's create them white and black infact He created them man and woman..... Colour was not fundamental we are all created in His image and therefore we must respect one another 💯 as it's expected from our creator. These is really a bridge connected.
AMEN!!!
you are my brother in Christ . Our creator made us equal and because of that i love you .
We are all equal I agree... So how did the different races come about like Chinese indian.. I always wonder about this. Like what race was adam and eve... I know little about this from the Bible
it is a bridge. How many will cross it?
free will, from the Lord God will not be over written. Jesus came and literally stands and knocks, will we open the door and receive Him and Light or die in the darkness of our own hearts.
No, he did not SAY a color, however, his vision must had been in color. Because he did create a black woman first.
This conversation needs to be shown to every church. How two men that bleed red blood but have different skin colors come to honor and worship one God! Thank you for authenticity and having a REAL conversation!
Amen
Agree d whole heartedly. We all bleed the same blood --not blue ,not black ,not white,etc so l cant see for the life of me why we have so much resentment towards one another over skin pigment,
"We need to look at what's in our minds & how it got there." Amen!!! Let's deal with the roots & not the fruit 🙌🏾
OMG PASTORS THIS IS IT , THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE TALK THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A LONG TIME AGO. I’ HAVE TEXTED THIS TO MY 4 pastors and everyone else. I will make sure everyone I know see this message. I will be definitely praying for the both of you. I pray God covers you and protect you.
“Every human being has the same value because of the blood of Jesus.” AMEN.🙌🏻😭
Diezel Yogen Trestiza there is common ground at the foot of the cross!!
Amen !You are quite right.
What verse is that in the scriptures, what book? Ohh okay, don't lean on your own understanding. That's really offensive towards the Lord actually putting words in His mouth..
@@imac247i What does 1 John 1:7 say? That's what I thought... have a seat sir/ma'am. Everyone who believes in the name of Jesus has been cleansed by the same blood of jesus, and are all equal in the eyes of God.
Amen!!
Hey everyone! This video was really helpful for me. I feel like I was able to finally see this clearly. Please if you are reading this, pray for my parents because I don't think I will be able to convince them that what's going on in the US right now is a legitimate issue. God has to do that. Thank you very much and God bless.
Thanks for reaching out Michael! Praying and standing in agreement with you! ^EC Team
May God work on their hearts. God bless you Michael.
May God Himself change their hearts!! God bless you
We shall, no let me correct that, I will pray for you personally. For you and your family. God Bless you :) *hug*
May God Bless&Kerp You Michael&May He Touch The Hearts Of Your Parents Now Lord&Open Up The Eye's Of Their Understanding That YOU Father Are God All By Yourself&Uou Made&Love Us ALL,In Jesus Mighty Name?Amen&Amen!
God is not color blind. He is not about culture, he is about kingdom. I love it!
"Do I co-sign by my silence?" As a white person, I needed to hear this.
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No, you wait for the data instead of allowing the emotion to cause you to sin.
@@jtfike Data has nothing to do with it. Humanity is key. As Pastor Gray said there would be outrage over a dog. No one would say . What did he do?
@@reshellhouse5391 Data has everything to do with it. Humanity is sinful. We have the Salem Witch Trials in our history to remind us what your scenario will result in.
@@reshellhouse5391 The SPanish Inquisitor who executed innocent civilians said the same thing as you. "Data has nothing to do with it, this is about humanity" Who needs to hear their side of the story? Kill them!
We need to pray for the people who disliked this message.
Oh my God... I even realized them when you said it... yes we need to pray for them!!!
We need to pray for those who started watching, but cut it off, because for whatever reason, they don't want to address it.
Yes. I'm with you. Amen
They still don't get this😔
Pray for them I have no words
I want to thank you both for having this conversation and showing me a real, raw look at how the Church can be addressing the issue of racism. I am a veteran teacher in a high school that has become increasingly more diverse in the 20 years I have been teaching. My family attends The Blended Church in Indianapolis which is a multiracial Church. I am white, middle class woman and blessed to have a beautiful, smart biracial granddaughter. I am frightened for her, for her daddy and my daughter’s fiancé and everyone of my students of color. I like to think I am empathetic and anti racist but just like as a Christian, I am always growing in my relationship with my Savior, I always need to be open to learning more about the injustices toward blacks and other POC. I read a book called “White Fragility” and it was very educational. I felt there was about 85% I agreed with but still some that I didn’t get until I watched your message. The part missing from this book was the part about what Jesus modeled, taught, and gave us when He came. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and it is only through Him that reconciliation can happen. Pastor Gray, May the Lord bless you and your family and protect you from the Evil One. Pastor Steven, thank you and for letting your heart break for what breaks God’s heart. Bless both ministries moving forward as well as my pastors and our church.
Amen Sister! Amen. What a beautiful prayer. Was very heartfelt. May God continue to bless you and your family in Jesus name amen. Thanks for sharing on both sides we have a lot to learn. Jesus Christ was so loving and compassionate. I feel like that has been missing for so many years but we have to pray for the church the Christian church for people to be more open-minded and willing to have a conversation even if it may be somewhat uncomfortable. I could tell that both of them Pastor Steven and Pastor John are really good friends. That is why i believe it was easier for them to have a discussion.
listening in tore my heart ...the raw pain in your voice and yet HOPE arising, thank you ...peace
Racism is a symptom of a heart separated from Jesus. We need a heart change in this country. We must as a nation repent and bring Jesus into our lives, social circles, and families if we are going to see a change.
Agreed Carter. When the heart is filled with love there is no room for hate and discrimination.
The church was at the forefront of slavery, you do know that, right?
meena jones no, certain people that called themselves Christians did that. Just because someone calls themselves Christian doesn’t mean they are. Huge difference.
I for sure am hurting with America. America needs a revival. The biggest messes comes with Gods greatest miracles. My prayers to the family of Mr. Floyd. I pray they find peace and forgiveness in their hearts as God did for us.
Amen, I agree
Oh its coming
Amen 🙏🏻
No America needs thermo nuclear missiles.🔥
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Jesus came to change the World! We are called to change the world, through love and truth. Standing for what is right. Not me, but Jesus in me!!!!!
This has opened my eyes of how I need to teach my lil girls and not brush it under the rug. I think I am protecting them from seeing the violence but it actually continues the ignorance and not understanding other people's pain. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
I cried while pastor John gray started getting emotional
Yea this is too real!
I’m sorry this happened I wish things where different all I can do it pray and have faith
Same here,I felt it
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This is how "Real Christian"s" should react to the murder of George Floyd. Bravo Pastor Furtick & Pastor Gray!! Bravo!!!
Extremely sad for the senseless violent murders of two other great guys in all this - David Dorn and Patrick Underwood.
Amen
Pls disregard the thumb down symbol by mistake. I appreciate spreading the truth of my sins of ignorance, apathy
Declaring that his murder is the result of racism when no evidence supports it is not how "real Christians" should behave at all. Murder is a sin all by itself and should be addressed as such. But jumping onto a bandwagon that spreads mutiny and fear when there is no evidence to support it is the very essence of being "worldly" instead of Christian.
I watched this, and I will say it moved me in a way. I will also say that I feel like this discussion SHOULD HAVE included a Police Officer because, as the wife of a retired Police Officer, and the Granddaughter Of Police Officers, both maternal and paternal, I do not feel that their voices were heard.
Police Officers have a very difficult job that few have the heart to do. No one will ever understand what it takes for a Soldier or a Police Officer to strap on that Kevlar vest for another shift and hope you’ll still be alive at the end of it. To rush into a situation with people who hate you just because of the uniform you wear and STILL try to help and protect them. It’s frustrating to arrest someone over and over and over again, and have to put cuffs on someone and see the look of heartbreak on that child’s face because you’re having to take Mommy or Daddy away YET AGAIN. It’s frustrating when that Officer cares more about that child than does their own Parent.
There is heartbreak that Police Officers must contend with daily. So, equally, just as whites may not understand the difficulties of being black, the same can be said for a Police Officer and the criminal community. No one understands unless you’ve walked that walk.
I am also in corrections, albeit a different area, and it is extremely frustrating to see criminals with 20 page criminal histories and then hear their Mother say that her son is a good man. Mr. Floyd himself has a lengthy criminal history. I do not know if he was a good man......that is for God to judge, but I do know that he has done a lot of wrong too. How about accounting for the fact that had he not been trying to pass a fraudulent $20 bill, he’d never have been in the situation to start with? That’s where the shame is. That’s where the black community needs to not only call out injustice against them, but also do some house cleaning within their own community and speak the truth. The truth is that young black men need Fathers. The truth is they need mentors to guide them. The truth is they need to be educated. The truth is they need to be shown that welfare and crime is not a career, and that a man needs to work for his living and then not be judged as being an Uncle Tom by his own community if he gets an education and good career. The truth is that they need to be shown that a man keeps his word, loves and raises his children, and lives a life that honors his family and community. That’s where it really needs to start.
I didn’t hear any of that in this truth telling discussion.
I love black people, and have since I was a child. There are black people that I know for a fact are better than I am. The ones who bring honor to their race are the ones who are not the problem. The ones who do not, are the problem. And I feel the same exact way about white people too. Those who dishonor my race embarrass me and make me angry.
You both spoke of Jesus, and how he didn’t always speak comforting words and actually said things that upset people which led to His crucifixion, and I agree. He certainly did. One thing that was left out though was when he told the crippled man by the waters who waited for healing for many years, if he even wanted to be healed? And if he did, then get up! That’s a question the black community needs to ask themselves because they’ve been the victim for so long that it’s now indoctrinated in them, and is taught to them by their families, just as prejudice and bigotry are also taught. I’m all for the truth being told, but by God, it needs to be told on BOTH sides.
In closing, I know that some valid points were made here. I also know that the discussion that needs to be occurring should be between the black community and the Police. Maybe some black leaders could do a ride along and see what the police see everyday in their community because I promise you, things look completely different thru the eyes of a Police Officer.
May the God we serve, cause the Holy Spirit to open all blind eyes, on every side, and every way and that peace become the new pandemic among us all for we are all the same race......the human race.
Amen.
I agree with you. And what I also think is sad, is how few others have agreed with you. I’ve never heard Furtick speak for our pro-life/pro-Israel president. I’ve never even heard him ask us to pray for our president..like the Bible’s tells us to.
And I love black people too. I have precious black people in my own family. My sister adopted 3 mixed race babies because they were rejected by both white and black people. But Furtick keeps silent on important issues like abortion. He needs to wake up.
As a christian and a black woman I was both empowered and encouraged bu this open and honest conversation. This is a great start. Like and share this and lets have more conversations with people whom don’t look like us. Yes we see color and we have to bridge the gap to appreciate the differences because they are beautiful. Praying God will continue to give me resources to raise my children without fear, and empower them to be representatives of the kingdom and all the beautiful diversity within. Right now it feels very hard. Admittedly my heart is heavy!
This has got my whole body in chills...and am not even American. May God intervene in the hearts of each American and the world at large.
Yes. Every Human race!
Ty. It is something the world deals with
@Ashley Brown yes true.
Amen this is the best way the church needs to be involved with social justice. The church needs to have open discussion just like this so that their congregations can begin to really really understand pain of the black experience. This conversation digs into some very real and deep topics. Thank you Pastor for opening your pulpit to this conversation.
And hopefully it's causing deep conversation in the homes it's being streamed to. God bless you bro.
Social justice begins by teaching the love of Christ at home. And the fact that before were Spanish Black or White we are God’s.children. That’s is what we need to uphold
“There comes a time in which I’m order to take a Stand, you first need to take a Seat.” I felt that! 🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Praise God for these Pastors, I feel secure in their presence, may God give us bold, compassionate pastors like these, there is hope for our world with Pastors likethese. Thank you Jesus for these conversation, I have been longing for such dialogue. God bless u Steven and John.
What can I say !? Seriously I live in Australia and have just loved Elevation Church / Worship that saved me from the edge of a very dark abyss some years ago now... & now you have brought together two of the greatest ambassadors for Christ of the 21st century to confront what affects both the US to a huge degree & will affect Australia further down the line...somehow this message needs to go to the world !!
Through your combined preaching you have opened up another can of my own personal worms to be dealt with and I thank you from the bottom of both my heart & spirit...Bless you all !!
ANTHONY GEORGE Thank you for saying what I could not. Faced being bullied as a kid from my same race, I did not begin to identify with my race until I was in my late 40's and fifties. I am now in my 60's and this powerful pair of preachers has raised the bar for me. I think I became numb to the pain. I was so hated for being my "skin" color I didn't know I grew numb! This message was for me. Lord deliver me from indifference!
Stay the course brother.
"We've programmed Jesus with the 5 to 7 things we want Him to say." WOW this is powerful! Thank you gentlemen.
Thank you for opening my eyes and softening my heart. In Jesus name let it be done.
Pastor John, we love your beautiful heart!! You matter!! Your family will be prayed for. Thank you for being the voice for the voiceless.
“People’s souls are more important than your platform.” Ptr. John. Thank you Ptr. Steven for being brave and going out of your comfort and obeying the leading of the Holy Spirit.. 😢😭😭
I stand in agreement and I Plead and Seal this in the Blood In Jesus Name!
Thank you for the beautiful connection between these two souls. I pray for change. God bless all people and bring unity once and for all. 🙏
This was visually beautiful to see two different people of race sitting down and talking about what is going on in the world. Pure beautiful!!!
i agree.
AMEN 🙏🏾
Right!!!! That’s what I thought too!
@@nacculatevassell8138 Yes it does! Maybe not for you, but it does for me and others😄
The Legacy Chronicles Just what the nation need to see
Yes! The church is the answer to this. We need to model unity in the midst of all the division and hate around us.
amen=messengers=us=USA(CA)+NC........plus sum(some)........isnt enough=Jesus said=it ok=speak up=treason_Jesus=JESUS CHRIST:was betrayed too-remember@LL.......
Two incredible men of integrity, compassion and conviction. It will take a heart movement in every individual to bring about true change. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for having the courage to risk everything to do the RIGHT thing. It's what Jesus would do.
May this conversation reach every corner of this magnificent world that our heavenly father has entrusted to us....
This is such a sad tragic disaster in America! Stop the Hatred! Love your brothers and sisters. Lets all join in prayer! Pastor what a beautiful sermon! God Bless You
Amen...
I am beyond overwhelmed with emotion with the conversation that is happening in this video. Thank you to both Steven and John for saying, “let’s not wait.” I am a black man, a black mail carrier, a black worship leader, a black youth leader and I have experienced the fear of not knowing if I’ll make it home if I ran into someone who didn’t deem it necessary because of the color of my skin. This conversation hits home not just because of my experience but because of the God I Worship is not satisfied. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I’m in Australia watching this. We need this conversation. Worldwide. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Yess! These type of conversations should take place in the church regularly. Thank you!
Amen
Amen!!!
@@nacculatevassell8138 That's your opinion! I can call it racist as well. Earth has no sorrow that heaven can't heal! Question for you: So you hate your OWN sin as much as you hate INJUSTICE?
I wish people in China can have access to this preach. We need conversations like this!
You could be the one to share it with them. It could go a long way
I agree China needs this
I thought same too
@@lishyification Most of mainland Chinese can't get over the government firewall.
Uyghur .
Thank you God for these real conversations. Open my eyes Lord. God’s people are suffering every day. We need to love one another the way God loves.
So powerful!
Lord show YOUR strong in and through YOUR Church in SPIRIT and TRUTH (no matter how hard or how much we hurt). Thank you for doing God’s work, Pastor Gray and Pastor Furtick (and those you serve and attend your churches).
Psalm 68:6.
Thank you so much Pastor Furtick for being a true leader during these times. Your platform and word is so appreciated. Having a difficult sometimes uncomfortable conversation is where God really moves and breaks through.
We need to change
As a black man, I thank you for being honest, humble, raw, and open for this conversation Pastor Steven. God Bless You!!
I am crying hard. We trust You, Lord. I felt the hug of God. Surely, He will show His power. Indeed!
This is such a powerful message. Ugh my heart is heavy. I pray his memory brings about the true change we need! I stand in solidarity with movement for black lives and social justice!✊💞🙏
“Please don’t limit my God to your experience” 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Don’t blow this opportunity for God man! The sweet Holy Spirit has this conversation!
I love when a sermon hits me in face and challenges me like this did. Thank you 🙏❤
Amen ♥️🙏🏾
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What changes do you feel like God is convicting to make?
Me too😭
Thank you! This answer to my prayer
Tears of Joy fill my eyes, Thanking God for this conversation! Thank You Lord!
This Conversation Needed To Be Had🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏾✊🏾🖤🤍 Two Powerful Preachers Talking About Unity That’s What It’s About
I watched this Live stream and was brought to tears, THANK YOU FOR THIS COMPELLING and NECCESARY CONVERSATION Pastor Furtick and Pastor Gray. Yet, somehow in the chat I observed a comment that was aburtly deleted that still was spewing Hate. One can not call themselves a CHRISTIAN a BELIEVER and have Hate towards ANY HUMAN, ANY LIVING THING FOR THAT MATTER. GOD IS LOVE. JESUS HELP AND HEAL YOUR LOST AND BROKEN CHILDREN. AMEN🙏🏾
Understand that some people only care about hatred and watching the world burn. Most and i mean most of the white people in this country love and care about all our Brothers and Sisters of color in Christ Jesus. Dont let the ignorant people stop us from uniting. It is what scares them the most, UNITY.
You are on IT Chris Slaughter, God bless you and yours!
Amen!
Amen
"We focus so much in the image not the substance" AMEN
Change my heart O God! Thank you for courageous leaders that are willing to have this hard conversation.
“You have to be able to embrace the totality of me so that I can trust you with my soul” every American teacher/pastor/preacher needs to hear this.
I am Muslim & I am moved. I thank you both so much for this.
Thank you to both of you, I am a woman preacher who have been misused, put down, shut down by men/leaders because I am a woman. I am a black woman with two black sons and I am concerned for them. My oldest son is a police officer and had to put himself in harm way because of the riots because of the death of George. My youngest son is a private security officer and I am still afraid if they are off duty and are treated as a criminal because the are 6 feet 3 in tall black men. Prejudice is not just with police officers but also in our churches as Pastor John Gray said. Thank you Pastor Furtick. I love y'all.
As a wife of an officer, as a black person but mostly importantly a Christian, thank you for posting this comment
Please believe me when I say, when I see a black police officer, I automatically think of how hard that job must be for them and say a prayer for them. I want all police officers to be safe. Now, here is a question. Why do I do that more often for black officers than white? Is that racist? Oh, I am a white woman.
Praise God for this conversation for the world to see. Thank you MEN OF COURAGE!!!
Love you Pastor John Gray♥️. I stand with you✊🏿✊🏻. I feel the pain, is breaking me apart🥺💔
Honestly, at times I've found myself to be indifferent and push certain important matters to the side out of fear. But I know now that its time for the church to be the children of God that God meant us to be. This means we need to be willing to have hard conversations, willing to be wrong, willing to change, and to forgive as Christ did for us. God teach me and give me your heart, a heart of compassion, and love in the name of Jesus!! Love you all!!
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Amen!
Amen! God bless you and keep you when you WILL be challenged in this. Together!!
Thank you for being honest I know it easy but I'm glad the conversation is happening! God blessed you 🤗
THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL MESSAGE OF UNITY THAT EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH.UNITED WE STAND,DIVIDED WE FALL.
Yes. Crying and praying.
Beautiful.
Blessing
Breeny Lee!?!
Honestly Pastor Steve is a powerful preacher
This conversation was so beautiful and so needed. Raising 3 African American boys, my heart needed to hear something and these two gentlemen answered the call. Thank you, both for using your platform to speak to understanding, solutions & healing. 🙏🏽
Thank you for speaking up. One of the best sermons I have ever heard. Thank you for not being afraid to speak up. Everyone needs to hear this!! God bless you both. Watching from Austin, TX. 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
"Often times we look at an image and not the substance!" P. John Gray 🌍🙏🙏🙏❤️
Lord Jesus, I cry out to You and ask for help in our land. Elevate us Lord and show us the way and truth to Your light. Give us peace and hope to carry on. Let us come together in spirit. Guide us all Lord, that You give us the knowledge to know that this world can only be fix if Your children open their hearts. Love one another as You love us. And that we don't wait and dwell on the actions of one another but to know that they carry in their hearts the love of every human being.
Amen!!!
Amen!
In Jesus name AMEN!!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
In Jesus name
🎶"And they'll know we are Christians by our love, by our love, yes they'll know we are Christians by our love"🎶
For King and Country🎵
Please, please, everyone, listen to this. THIS is the conversation we need to be having!!! Two of the most truly anointed and important voices we are immeasurably blessed with today, when we need it more than ever!! You don't need to be Christian to get something from the Bible stories, they are LESSONS for Life. This is Truth, this is the Reality we are in. This is Compassion.
We need to Elevate, we need to be Relentless, we need to BE THE BRIDGE!
If you have never listed to Pastor Steven Furtick, I promise you, you have never heard anyone break down the the Word, the Bible lessons and stories, the meanings of the message, the way he does, making them all so, so relevant to today. Steven Furtick, Pastor John Gray, Bishop TD Jakes, if we've ever needed to hear your voices, we've never needed it more than today. May God bless you and bless you and bless you.
If anyone needs materials for doing this work, “Be the Bridge” is a book written by LaTasha Morrison who focuses on racial reconciliation curriculums today help your family and your church by giving you the recourses your need. This is an actual organization who has been working in this space for many years and is led by a black woman.
thank you for sharing this
Thanks for this!!!
Yes!
Pastor Steven, you are my role model. Thank you for "being you" sir.
Thank you so much for this. I was so worried that the church I am now calling home would be silent on these issues and our current world. Though you have shown the courage to speak honestly and raw about everything that will help us going forward. I hope this message will touch many hearts and minds.
It’s touched mine. ❤️
Amen thank you so much Pastor Steven!