High End Professional Recording Interfaces - Why Buy One and What to Look For?
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"gear that never gets in your way" is such a great mantra. Love the channel.
This is spot on. I’m in the process of switching from UAD to RME, really excited about the stability and all the infinite routing options. Even on Mac UAD has really not been reliable for me. After doing a massive experimental live project this past fall I couldn’t handle the stress and decided to make the switch. Thank you for all your insights, definitely the best I’ve seen! PS - totally agree about the terminology around syncing things, I really appreciate that observation.
I bought a RME baby face (the original one) ten years ago for $800 and I am still using it and they are still making drivers for it even with the interface been retired for more than 5 years… I don’t think I will ever buy anything but RME interfaces. It has everything their bigger siblings have but in a compact form appropriate for a small home studio.
This helps. I got my iMac for Christmas, and now it’s time for me to select which interface platform to go with. I still need some advice as to how to integrate my Kong workstation into my DAW as well. Sometimes “choice paralysis” sets in on having to make some of these decisions. Keep doing what you do, you’re helping folks out here.
Cool video considering comments that were made on yesterday's video.. Timing is everything. Thanks...
this is a pure master class..thanks for sharing ur opinion and knowledge
I bought an RME Fireface in 2010 for around 1500 EURO. Rock solid. So so reliable (on windows at least). The USB connection broke busted about 3 years ago so I've been using the firewire interface since. The great thing is that I have learnt so much through using this device year after year after year. Like the look of the RME ADI-2 for the next decade....
Great video Barry! I opted for the Tascam Mixcast 4 and haven't looked back. It's the best bang for the buck IMHO. The onboard recording paid for itself as my wireless company continued to bill me after I cancelled service. This was recorded and played back to the recovery company and it totally shut 'em down. The preamps are nutty good too! The only issues I've had is that it won't turn off every 50 or so uses so I have to remove the PS to get it to do so.
Barry, just wanted to let you know that I enjoy and appreciate your videos. I enjoy that you don't tell as much as explain. After working the last 40 years give or take a day I am getting back into my passion of writing and recording with the sole expectation of having something that I enjoy listening to. I have reconnected with a friend from high school who is still and excellent drummer and since I am the live mix engineer for Head East (8 years on now) the guys have committed to helping me with any additional vocals/guitars/keys/bass guitar that I may have a need for. I think that I have decided that I will put maybe not a high-end, but a high-endish audio interface RME/Focusrite for acoustic as well as vocals and then move to a mid-level Focusrite Clarett+ 8 Pre for additional drum tracks. Keeping the kick/snare/hat through the RME and the kit through the Clarett+. I would like to find a good/reasonably good $1,000 range vocal preamp. Let me know if you have any suggestions. I am not going to be using anything fancy for a vocal mic. Given my voice a Rode NT2A is plenty good.
Computer wise I have ordered a M1 Macbook Pro 14" with a 10 core CPU/16 core GPU and 32 gig of memory and 1TB. I have two external thunderbolt 4 drives 2 TB each. For a little home studio, not letting anyone else in to record except my son-in-law...it should be fine. I am using Cubase Pro 12 which is now M1 certified.
Keep up the good work and I will let you know if you stray too far afield. Bill
Really liking your channel man, great video!!!
Thanks Brian!
Very good video and more importantly very informative!
I recently replaced two Firetudio Project interfaces (they were pro when released) with a TASCAM 16x08. Boy was I surprised! I absolutely love the TASCAM interface, it has built-in DSP (compressor, EQ) per channel and the preamps/converters are REALLY supreme, I mean no noise floor whatsoever and a lot of gain per channel (it was a huge upgrade for me). You DON'T need anything super high tier for the job to be honest.
Barry, get your hands on one (300 Euro in Europe which is a steal) and review it. You'll see how great they are for the price.
I love your channel. It's all about the music!!! An the fact you point out something so simple as terminology shows your ❤. An when we hear certain things we instantly know An that was honest 💯. ( The slave An master comment).
Thanks a lot, I truly appreciate it!!!
Really enjoying your channel. . . I went in hard on 500 series years ago - building my dream studio now (so I'm waiting on pulling a new interface trigger). . . Being a cubase guy - the thunderbolt steinberg interface looks super nice.
I have one I'd consider selling and it is AMAZING
Stability = RME. The RME ADI-2 Pro FS R its for me the best sounding interface ever.
Yep! RME all the way. Won't go back!
You’re giving away the secrets dude...🤫
If you can’t afford RME than go Motu
Returned my ADI-2 DAC FS. Hyped top end and harsh midrange.
Harmonic coloration is across all of the spectrum. Most colored "neutral" device I ever heard. Much harsher than Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
I could not EQ out that harshness even with their 7 band EQ without losing clarity.
This had much darker AK4493 chip in it. Maybe ESS chip is better for this unit, but people say otherwise.
RME markets "uncolored" sound, but that is a false claim.
It is very colored and to me not enjoyable. Sound stage is also pulled back by about 2 feet (auditory) from centerpoint of speakers. Like I am further away. Boosting 200hz and midrange didnt change that much.
Many people report the same.
Far from best sounding device, but transients are crazy snappy. For better or for worse.
Latency is amazing. Clock is very stable.
I had HDSPe Raydat as well, it was more natural, but sound stage was about a foot and odd inches back as well. No EQ in their Total FX though.
Definitely colors sound too. Makes you lose low end.
While ADI-2 DAC FS has very strong bass, but rather unnaturally snappy.
Doesnt play well with Yamaha MSP5 speakers. Sounds like you want to increase boominess of bass echo, or reduce transient spike.
Your mileage may vary
May sound great to you, doesn't sound great to me. Ears hurt from it after 30 mins
If you’re on windows this is the most solid choice by far
My friend.....thanks so much for this video. I am 60 years old and putting together my 3rd home studio. My Focusrite Clarett 8 pre is maxed out of ports and my Sweetwater Rep was suggesting the Apollo 6 or 8 because they have a promotion and you get a free $1200 Townsend L22 mic. My focusrite sounds fine and instead of buying the Apollo 8 I picked up a used Clarett 8 pre for $500 and using ADAT have my extra 8 channels. The $2000 plus I am saving is going towards a pair of Focal or Adams speakers. I have a home project studio so can't justify the UAD prices. I think the upgrade from my cheap low end $300 pair of JBLs will give me way more bang for the buck then the UAD converters. Plus buying a brand new fully loaded Apple Macbook pro or max with 64 Gb memory, 4 TB SSD drive etc. That computer will be so powerful I don't see the need for DSPs in the interface. I sure hope I am making the right choice because I am too old to be making mistakes when buying gear. Thanks for a great channel. You have so much knowledge & wisdom.
Cranborne Audio 500 R8 is one of THE BEST interfaces I've ever heard and used. Highly recommend!
Thank you Barry!!
I had the apogee AD/DA 16X series for 20 years and they were great. From there I bought a Burl mothership and they’re really great and dependable. They don’t sound like my 2inch tape deck but they do sound musical.
Thanks for the video!
Why did you switch?
The Apogee worked well for you?
Is there a reason?
Don’t know Which of the two i should get.
Useful, thanks.
I've had many interfaces and some converter with 500 series but now I have a steinberg axr4t and it's amazing it sounds amazing and it's capable of recording at full 32 bits with 384khz it sounds...... crazy how good it sounds
Sup Barry, my interface has all of the important attributes that you mentioned in your video. I can’t express how important stable drivers are, you are so correct! Here’s one thing I also found out about a super quality interface. When you look online for clocking/conversation mods and if there aren’t any, I think your moving in the correct direction. That’s what I did when making my decision for my current interface. Same goes for mic preamp mods on these interfaces. Go with the one that’s good out of the box. They have all sorts of mods for my go to favorite, UADApollo interface, so that tells me it has it’s shortcomings, but I love it’s color shading abilities. That damn Waves Digigrid’s IOS Server has killer mic pre’s and the clocking on this thing just sounds awesome! But it’s not my go to. If I want “more” or “cleaner” it’s my guy! But if I’m after a tone/color, UAD. Barry I do agree you get what you pay for. I was shocked in the sounds coming from each interface, which I wasn’t expecting but the more expensive one sounds better. So I’ll usually ask what unit they want to track with? Most like the UAD, some will occasionally ask for the Waves, and alot will say, “use what you used last time”. Crazy right?
Great points!
yeah i have also Waves Digigrid iox its killer i tried to compare with apollo 8 i think iox much much much better also rme stuff very good quality
Yesterday I listened to Burl and I am smitten. I’d like to hear more from you on the Motherboard 16 as a replacement for my Apollo Mk2 Quad (or maybe in conjunction with to be able to use some of the UAD features). I started out looking for better mic preamps, and I’d rather not have to go through the same exercise in 5 years. The Burl approach seems like a good match for the Royer R121 matched pair that I have on order, to keep that “live” feeling throughout the tracking process.
Apogee Symphony here. Simply the best ;)
So will you please do a video on what you consider a high end recording interface. I’m building a studio and I’m not concerned about how much it cost.
Thank you so much keep up the good work I watch every single video.
👑RME, The King of Audio Interfaces.
For all-in-one Sound, Utility and Versatility, RME is unrivaled at any price point.
Unrivaled at “ANY” price point, that’s not accurate. They are incredibly powerful in their price range, but not the “very best” that money can buy. That would be double or triple the price.
@@BarryJohns 🤔The UFX is a stand alone field recorder, a stand alone studio multitrack recorder, a stand alone mixer, Pro grade AD/DA with bountiful digital and analog i/o, Stability, unquestionable its the very best, Internal FPGA Real Time FX, Top Tier Mic Pres, Can be operated Remotely with hardware controls and through iOS. and built like a tank.
Now you're one of my favorite TH-camrs brother Barry but now I'm riled up! you know I'm an RME fanboy.😄
I've had Prism Sound, Antelope, Focusrite, Apogee, Audient and more...none of them can compare.
@@bigdap100 hey man I’m a huge army fan, I recommend them every time I get a chance.
@@BarryJohns 🤔However to your point...
Antelope Audio is making INSANE deals and are innovating at very high rate and I love it. ✅
I know they've had buggy products in the past but if they can keep doing as well as they are now, they are going to be a serious force to reckon with.⏰⏰🚀
Heck, I even bought a Zen Q the other day and I already had the Zen Go.
The deal was too good I couldn't resist: interface, Bitwig 4 full version(which I love now), microphone and mic modeling software, an INSANE FX Bundle, Autotune, Carrying Case...thrown in!
And everything sound great!
But for right now...RME reigns supreme...but for how long????
@@bigdap100 I agree the RME is a great interface. I've never been around any of those super interfaces he talks about other than in the early 80's I was lucky enough to be in a studio that had a Harrison console. And that has always been the bench mark for me. It's a beautiful sound. Although I could afford a Harrison console, I was able to get a RME Fireface UFX. I have used it for sometime and love it. I did purchase a couple of the Apollo X8. Plus I'm using ADAT out of each one for 32 to 48 channels. While some of the UA plugins are really great, the mic-pre's are not close to RME's in my opinion. I still have my RME and looking at going back to it full time. Also the RME TotalMix is second to none. Barry Johns, thank you sir for another great video and eye opening information. Stay safe my friends and may God bless..... Jon
You are probably right. But as I don't need a professional environment my Zoom H1 is enough for me. And I liked the video.
Another great video. I got the Antelope Orion 32+ a few months ago and I still feel like it was the best choice for me and what I do.
I got the Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core. It’s been great. Lots of I/Os, seems very stable and easy to use. The Orion 32+ looks good too, but I wanted built in preamps.
Thank you for your video. For your amount of knowledge, it would be helpful to me when you do videos like this they have a Barry
top five audio interface list!
With links!
Thank again
This is not a sponsored post but here is what I gathered.
Get the interface that has great tech support. When you look for interface look for great out box. And if you want step up with confidence
I would do a revive audio mod update on the physical grade A quality components inputs and transformers - and your having the best of both worlds.
You get that Great capacitors and input outputs etc
Thanks again.
Audient iD44. It has the same preamps that are in their huge consoles. Great AD/DA. Solid aluminum build quality. Maybe not “high end” enough for your list, but some pros are using them.
I have the Apogee Symphony Desktop, Black Lion Audio Revolution 2x2 and the new ID44 mk ll. The Audient is right up there!
I've really been considering getting the babyface pro fs, but I've also pined for a lyra 2 for a long time.
Always seem to pic topics that are on point, great work. Please do the video of your personal experiences with high end gear 👍🏻
Motu also stands out to me aswell...especially with the avb capability
Motu rocks i had issues with windows on the 8pre es with a motu 8pre adat and a ultralite avb every now an then id have like a 100ms delay stuck running 5ms latency for live you change the buffer a little it would go away. I figured out I had to disable all inputs and outputs in windows sound device settings now its great! Im getting the SSL UCL UF8 combo asap the ssl native plugins channel strip buss comp with the 360 stuff is amazing if you haven't seen it yet
I'm still on a 2408mk3 and two MK2's! Been on them for 15 years easily. Most interfaces just don't have enough inputs for my needs and going all into one card just makes it so easy
Their freaken drivers suck on windows !!!!
fire video!!! thank you!! If I may ask what is your top 5 high end interfaces?
i am not in the market for a top end interface yet. My trusty Behringer umc is as stable as anything. But i am starting to look at mic pres and what they can do for me. I am not working at a level where i can hear subtle improvements here and there yet. But its the perspective angle i look at. What stunning gear did the beatles use to do 4 tracks? By todays standard, very basic. And then what is your audience going to be listening on? MP3 players! I agree drivers are very important, I remember a time when drivers were the pits, literally crap. But looking back over the last 5 yrs , it hasnt been an issue for me. I do most of my work in the box, just an interface and my PC. I quite love the freedom from looking for a patch or knob to turn. Even my software is pretty minimalist. The bling just gets in the way. I guess i watch stuff like this to see what I am missing and how i can do better. The single greatest improvement in PCs has been the arrival of SSDs, big ones. Cubase was a total arsehole on HDD but to my surprise, the new version is great on SSDs. Doesnt mean I am going back anytime soon, lol. Once bitten twice shy babe. And thats the issue, when your spending the big bucks, are you going to get a return on that money? Are you good enough to hear an improvement?
I'm on an Apollo x8p with Windows 10. It had some issues early on, but I sent it back to UA and it's been rock solid since. I've had issues in the past, but I tend to blame them on Thunderbolt support in Windows being bad (until tb3) rather than UA or other interfaces which had issues. I do end up running a patchbay, with a variety of analog preamps, into the Apollo via db25. (Why an x8p when I run outboard pres? I got a crazy deal on it from a studio that had 3 and was downgrading to 1). I am on a 9th gen i9 and I don't actually have any need for DSP, even at 96k, other than liking a few UAD plugins which require it. I'm expecting to be good with this setup for years to come.
To be clear, I'm talking about the x8p as an interface. I don't really care for the UA pres. I would've been better off with an x8 or x16 but I got the x8p for less than half the cost of an x8.
Switched from motu 828 mk3 (drivers where a disaster) to an RME Raydat + a Ferrofish pulse 16 and it's a big difference when it comes down to conversion. It's way cleaner and the stereo image is more defined.
I’m on an RME Fireface UFX+ with a Ferrofish pulse too!
"Gear that never gets in your way." ...so no Pro Tools! 😂 I'm sorry. I couldn't resist throwing a little joke in there. It's funny because it's true.
Anyways, the Arturia Audiofuse interfaces have best in class conversion, preamps and build quality. They're also rock solid in terms of stability. I think they punch way above their weight class, rivaling interfaces in the $4,000 range. I'd love to hear your thoughts on them. 🤙🏾 Keep up the great work.
Good stuff
Great as always Berry! You should change the name of the channel to "Berry's no bullshit studio talk" 😂
Definitely need to record at 88.2 at least. Because of the filtering from the niquist theorem.
Am using the Motu 828
He mentioned Lynx Hilo for HI-End mastering. You might want to look at the Lynx E44 PCI-E in which Lynx says it's on par or better than their Aurora! I prefer to have PCI-E since it;s on the board ...no latency and killer sound quality..I have lynx 1, 2 and now 3...just check it out and if you have a HI-end gaming MB (ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME or better) and a super quiet fan ( Noctua NH-U12A) , 64GB Ram you're heading the right way..
I'm dithering between ssl big six or cranborne R8 for my next interface...really want to avoid UAD this time.
"The others are using that as a master and their slaving off of that...(we really gotta change some of these terminolgies...)" - Barry Johns
Bro, toset terms when dealing with audio have never, once, bothered me. Most "real ones" are intelligent enough and our mind automatically interprets a phrase based on context, but REGARDLESS, this pulled Love out of my chest on your belhalf. 💯
RME for me all day!
high end means prism sound titan, antelope galaxy, rme fireface ufx, Pro tools hdx/ carbon, Apogee symphony, uad 16, burl audio mothership, lynx, focusrite rednet, presonus thunderbolt 48
My two cents on this: {A} I still have a Big Ben and it's great but if you're starting out with a reasonably large budget, you should know that having an external clock is not necessary until you have multiple conversion devices. So... (In my case) I have an Aurora, an old Apogee Rosetta, and an Avid HD Omni. I need the Big Ben to sync everything but you probably don't. If you just have one conversion device (Like if I just had the Aurora) the Big Ben is a waste of money. {B} As an owner of "Pretty Good" converters I want to make it clear that the difference is super small. If I had to give it a value, I'd say 3% to 5%. That's it. A great performance is still the silver bullet for a great recording. Thanks for the awesome video, Barry.
FYI, you can clock all those to your Omni which has a great clock. My previous rig was an Omni and two AD/DA 16’s, and an ISA 828 all clocked to the Omni no problem.
@@BarryJohns Thanks for the reply, Barry. And... Yes. I could if those three things were all there was. I have a mobile rig that comes and goes as well as two dedicated synth/sampling computers and blah and this other blah, blah. The Big Ben is really flexible and superior in my case. My original point was to protect people from the financial Kaiju that is my studio (I left some things out). Also... Yes. The Omni is great. I would not still be using Avid Hardware if it didn't exist. Have a great remainder of your week, Barry.
for me it's the lynx aurora transparent and good adc and dac specifications
I’ve used an Apogee Duet 2 for the last 5 years on Mac. Sounds great but the software and drivers have been horrendous. I’m definitely going to go down the RME route on my next purchase. I also use a Rupert Neve Designs Pre/compressor, will I be able to bypass the built in mic pre on the RME UCX2 or will those pre’s be clean enough not to effect the sound quality. The neve pre is fantastic. Cheers
Yes, one rme’s videos said to turn the volume all the way down to bypass. I think it was a babyface video, but still should be the same for their others.
What’d you get.
I'm going to skip the likes of Burl, Prism, and the like Mastering Grade and go to production Interfaces. Anything from the Focusrite Red Series, I personally love the Red 16A, next would be Lynx Aurora LN, Avid MTRX, RME (Any Really), MOTU's are great, but haven't been refreshed in 5 or more years, my Avid Carbon is outstanding it you work in Protools, of course Apogee, so many........
44.1 foooor life… although i might do some mastering stuff with a 96k upsample or higher.. i run antelope
While I probably won’t be able to hear the difference from - say - a MOTU 8M to a RME UFX III without spending a lot of time with the latter, I got to say this: After upgrading from a rather low end interface to MOTU, I certainly DID hear a quite noticeable jump in that certain directness in tone. Something that I didn’t expect for sure. But it wasn’t just me imagining things. That’s what I know now.
No I’m that regard, you should have noticed a difference. Motu does a great job!
Hi Barry If you only need I/O go with the Presonus Quantum 4848, 48 channels I/O for 1500$. Do a blind test between the Quantum 4848 and the Focusrite 16 Line, you will impressed.
I just looked that up. Thanks!
Mixing Made Easy guy compared the quantum with Apollo in a blind test. No one could tell the difference.
Hey Barry I have a question, what do you make of spending that money on a mixer like a tascam24 which can easily be routed to your daw and gives you that analog feeling with the faders and built in processors
Can you do a review of the presonus quantum 2? There’s not alot of reviews for that interface. I’m curious about its rtl and the pre amp quality alongside its stability.
I have the original Quantum and it has been rock solid for years. Considering moving up to something higher end but this one has never let me down
I am starting out kind of old school (where mixing consoles are concerned). I have the Mackie 32.8 analog console with the meter bridge. My interface is just a UAD Volt 276. Would it be advisable to pick up an Antelope Audio Orion 32 and gamble with support, or is there a 32 channel equivalent (Madie or Dante) RME that is at least around the same price?
I still have a tower full of rack gear from the Windows XP days (including TC Electronic Finalizer 96k, M one XL, Antares Mic modeler, Roland SRV-3030, Behringer patch bay, Monster 3000 Power conditioner, Blue Max Compressor, Blue Tube mic pre and even an old Digi 001, Delta 1010 LT sound card and some Dolby S tape decks and a Harmon-Kardon CD-R 20.
I may sell some of the outdated stuff to someone who collects older gear to make room. But, is it doable to make what I have create solid mixes? I was even thinking of getting a 16 or 32 channel HUI mixer to run Cubase 12 Pro if the Mackie is a problem.
I want upgrade from my uad apollo twin USB. What’s a better option?
I don’t find the plugins any useful as I only do the recording and I send the recording for mixing
Burl is not only for mastering. The B80 Mothership is expandable to 80 channels in the same unit. Burl is also modular and the entry price is much more modest with an 8 in 8 out system. Burl was designed to be high end that is not "impossible forever," as you say. Burl is certainly not cheap, even for an 8 in 8 out. But the expandability offets entry price in a substantial way. Burl's audio quality is just in another league. I have to thank you for at least mentioned Burl. It's well known in high-end circles but not so much in the mid-range.
Barry, can you hear a difference between the RME interface you have (assuming it's the Babyface) versus the Avid Carbon, in terms of D/A conversion from studio monitors and headphones?
+1
RME is pristine, nearest thing to a straight copper wire as they say…
I had tons of problems with my Focus rite 2i2
Thank you for the video. I have a neve 5017 preamp. Is a babyface pro fs good enough to record professional vocals. Any other recommendations? Thank you
Hi. Barry, can you show how you connect with your carbon to MacBook Pro? Thanks for your videos.
I guess via AVB, there is no other way. Or with an RME AVB to USB converter.
@@pdmcrew80 As far as I understand about focusrite rednet can only connect via HD link or TB, AVB is only for i/o expansion. So I am still wondering about carbon and there is no video explanation about connection so far. Thanks for you input really appreciate that.
@@kosmilproduction9304 every apple computer is an AVB device, you can connect the carbon directly to the Mac or make it work with an AVB switch if you have multiple AVB devices. The Focusrite Rednet can be connected via TB (mac only) HD Link and Dante, you need to install Dante Virtual Souncard so that you computer works like a Dante device, in this case the latency is not very usable. Or you can install a Focusrite PCIe Dante card and have much lower latency.
@@pdmcrew80 thanks ever so much again for explanation 👍✌️
Hi there. I really love the breakdown. If I have a budget of $3500 and want the best for that what would be your recommendations? I mostly do hip hop and pop.
Prism Titan
Prysm Lyra 2? Thoughts?
What are your thoughts on AVID's MBox interface?
What do you think of the Rme baby face pro fs? How’s it compare to those high en interfaces you mentioned ?
Huge RME fan, I currently use a Fireface UFX+ with a Ferrofish Pulse. Totalmix can be a frustrating beast to wrap you head around but once you do it’s simply amazing! Go for it!!!!
Great video. I was looking into you videos. do you have any video about Presonus Studio192?
Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
UA still has yet to make a final stable version of their software for the M1 computers. I am mainly editing video and all my video software has all updated months ago. UA lags, IMO, across the board. Also, UA is still selling firewire satellites new that will NOT work with the last two versions of OSX. I had to lead the hard way.
A lot of studios still run cheese-grater Macs, which utilize FireWire. So for what it’s worth, people still seek out firewire units for their old systems and UAD serves that market.
@@WestonStephens well it cost me $100 to find that out. Also the cheese graters can run pcie cards. UA is simply no longer supporting this with updated drivers. The firewire to Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapters actually work and are not the issue. Also if you wanted to buy one of these new from Sweetwater or Guitar center you would plug it in only to find out you could not use it. Then you would have to deal with returning an item that's not considered to be returnable at these retail outlets due to having included software! I'm not saying they shouldn't sell this, I'm simply saying they should tell people that it doesn't work on current OSX and inform the retail outlets. I had to learn the hard way unfortunately.
UA have said they are just not going to bother making the drivers for their FW hardware that people paid good money for to run their expensive plug ins.
I got an expansion TB3 card for my Apollo and the system report on my M1, "saw" the FW Satellite, but UA wants me to spend even more money to buy a new TB Satellite in order to do what I was already doing with my FW Satellite. So I sold the FW Satellite and UA will never see another cent from me.
RME has made drivers for their FW devices, so its not a hardware issue.
The high end MOTU has ESS Sabres in them. They sound pristine. Also Black Lion Audio does a mod on them which will make the signal even more clean before it hits any converter.
The $225 (original price) MOTU M4 has Sabre too. Black Lion is snake oil.
@@_thevaporz Snake Oil, huh?
@@BenKash308 Yeah, check out Julian Krause review. High noise floor and poor performance overall to price.
@@_thevaporz I’m referring to their modifications on existing interfaces not their own interface. I haven’t heard the Revolution 2x2.
@@BenKash308 That's snake oil too. Not worth it.
Would like to hear sample songs from a high end studio vs your average basement recording but nothing on you tube.
I love my Lynx Aurora(n). Solid as the day is long, and you can talk to a real person if there are any questions.
Don’t forget the importance of SRC in interfaces, I’ve ran into trouble with this when using different manufacturers other than my RME machines……
Thanks for the good video sir. I agree with you that 44.1 khz sounds better than 48 khz but if I am producing music for music videos on youtube should I produce it 44.1 then convert it to 48 khz or I can post it 44.1 on TH-cam??
My choice is 48, everything I do now is 48.
3:29 "A SOUND investment"
Hello
Please help me to buy a pro Interface ,
I now use a pre-amp ( golden age pre 73 )& microphone TLM 102 & and 2i2 for record RAP ; (my line record )
I want to raise my quality one step higher.
In your opinion, between Apollo Twin X ,Apogee duet 3 and RME Babyface Fs ; Which one is suitable for the record?
(They have written for all three at the World Class ,level)
Thank you 🙏🏻
Would you please mention your camera model by which you have shoot this video.
Gear I Use to Video My TH-cam Channel
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Ciao Berry, I've bought a RME Fireface UFX II (no thunderbolt). Can you suggest me a good extra rack unit for more PreAmp connecting in ADAT ?
Do you have outboard mic preamps or are you using the ones on the RME? What’s your budget?
@@BarryJohns Dear Barry, thank you for your time. I just have the RME but I'd like to have more input with good preamp at the same time. Expanding them through ADAT. Budget around 2k.
I forgot... everything with M1 mac 🙏🏼
prism sound kicks rmes ass, upgraded never looked back solid density focus depth width
Shouldn’t it though, they are a LOT more expensive….
@@BarryJohns no the lyra is cheaper than the ucx, but has the same ad da pre and clocking as the titan, ive owned rme and prism 5 units so several years experience, prism are really overlooked as many assume they are just for mastering duties, the lyra one is the home recording gem
@@BcwildernessAgreed
RME WRITE their own USB/FIREWIRE drivers as opposed to using the proprietary drivers written by the USB chip manufacturers, I think this is where the difference comes…..
Barry is very good. But this time, he seems to say "super, super, super" a lot! LOL!!! It would be cool if you explained what "good" means when explaining the quality of I/O. I use a Symphony so I get it, but perhaps explaining (in laymen's terms) why high end converters sound "better" than entry level ones.
Great point!
I'm presently using the Audient ID14 mkii Audio interface. It has great preamps that I love. I'm not a fan of analogue gears because I believe their time is gone and there are great plugins that can do the job rather than waste money on analogue gears. Great engineers are now mixing totally in the box and mastering using plugins. So I'm looking for a 2 channel interface that has the balance of great mic preamp and prestine mastering grade D/A and A/D converters. Do you think I will get any additional benefit upgrading to a Prism Lyra 2 Audio interface as against using the Audient ID14 mkii
Everywhere in main land Europe has RME interfaces and doesn't talk about interfaces
what you think of SSL Big SIx?
I know I'm late but according to tests it tests amazing where it matters, such as; preamp and sample rate.
You missing a great one Antelope Synergy core 8
I mention it, but called it synergy. My bad!
I’m just a young UR44 :(
44.1 vs 48.1 i just switched to 48.1.. dont know why?
It’s better suited for video which is a huge % streaming plays.
With a high-end interface, I expect 32bit, not 24bit like l the $6,500 Lynx. Zoom has a $200 32bit interface out now.
One can easily tell that B suffers from G.A.S. Good thing is he is spreading the knowledge of the good stuff
I honestly hate dat personally it is just a bottle neck I like to work at 96kHz and with my 18i20 it more sensible to buy a second 18i20 instead of adat pre.
At 96k I can see that. I’ve been at this for 40 years and I’ve tried everything at this point, I found that there is zero end result benefit from 96k. 44.1 has always been perfectly fine.
@@BarryJohns Yeah for recording audio I agree but alias free software synthesis 96kHz is excellent. I totally agree for just audio in no benefit.
I just sold my Apollo black face and brought a apogee symphony mk1 and I’m here to tell u . Apollo is a toy . my songs went from playtime to real time . But UAD has plug ins that’s cools but they conversion is just above presonus. No where near an apogee .
Agreed!
When you were taking about Synergy,were you taking about Antelope Audio...?👀
Yes, my bad.
@@BarryJohns I'm using the Antelope audio Zen tour! Thank you for all your informative videos... you are the only one you talks about all these high end studio equipments in a way that everyone can understand! I'm using an m1 pro , after your review on it! Thank you so much for updating all of us...
@@ashleeisaac12 thank you very much!
Money dont lie
This video is supposed to be about high end interfaces
It is, how to pick one, what to expect, if you watched it you would have understood it.
Audio's ahead by at least 3 frames.
Yep, sadly I know. I screwed up and forgot to do the clap and had to visually align them, I didn’t get it right.
I accidentally deleted your reply, and I apologize for that, I didn’t even know I could do that. But as far as using a clap to line up audio, I appreciate the input, I have to disagree, in creating over 400 videos across multiple TH-cam channels over the last few years, everyone of them have been done that way, never had an issue.
Well I'm back with my head held low, afraid to look up, knowing I'm about to eat crow and it does not taste good, but its good for me. You were right, I thought about and then decided to advance by 3 frames, and it seemed to be much better. I know the 3 frames is not a hard rule, but at least it showed me something today. Thanks!
@@BarryJohns Glad I could help.
4:00 you Forgot Prism Interfaces....
I am sure he knows it ....you must know Merging Technologies is as good or better than Prism.....he said was not going to cover high end ones....etc
@@atta1798 I’m getting a Merging soon...I’m excited. I used Prism for a long time, I can’t wait to see what the Anubis can do, I might shoot it out with an ADI-2.
@@bigdap100 I have both the Anubis and the MkII Hapi. The specs are the same ...do the shoot out with the Prism And pass your mix from da to ad, get the shortest cable possible for a loop back.and pass it along to Barry for his opinion.
@@atta1798 my comment got deleted for some reason. I don’t have the Prism interfaces anymore, I got rid of a LOT of gear...crazy mics, monitors, converters.
Tell me what you think about the Merging.
@@bigdap100 OK how did you decide Merging and what is your background,,,play Music, Productions Mixing etc. This way I can tailor my answer
AES is better than Spdif it is balanced professional coaxial format vs consumer unbalanced Spdif.
Not really, spdif and AES are two wire, spdif 0,5 volts, AES 5 volts, any decent pro gear can read both on the same input….done it many times…
RME is the best.... but the best Price
I use an RME Fireface UFX+