Mic Preamps - How to Decide?

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  • @americanbigelow
    @americanbigelow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Hey Barry, Thanks for another great video. The recommendation of Audient is Spot On. To the community: As the owner of a whole bunch of outboard gear, here are my own personal words of advice: Investing in Mic Pres can easily rack up a bill of $10,000 or more for a 2% to 5% improvement. So... Please, Please, Please DO NOT go down this road unless you have money to burn. DO NOT explode your marriage or enter into financial ruin investing in Mic Pres. The benefit is not worth it. Always remember: An amazing performance will sound great through anything. That's why it's amazing.

    • @daviddavis9835
      @daviddavis9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The point of diminishing returns is a subject that should be delved into more when talking about audio recording.

    • @PurpleMusicProductions
      @PurpleMusicProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think the benefits are more than that amout, but to each his own. Like anything buy what you can afford, but the beauty of being single is I control 100% of all the cash in and out and if I had a wife that was not supportive of my endeavors then she would be exited from the relationship. A free man does not ask for permission. But yes at some point there are diminishing returns, but that can relative because everyone could see it differently based on tastes and hearing abilities. To some the nuisances matter a lot and to some good enough is good enough. Personally I would probably fall in the middle of those two poles.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@daviddavis9835 I talk about that a lot on my channel. My goal is to help people make smart decisions.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@legacyShredder1 that’s what I’m taking about!

    • @davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596
      @davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PurpleMusicProductions Love this.

  • @CAEVOMusic
    @CAEVOMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favourite and still most used I ever bought is the shadow hills mono gama, it’s a little more costly.......But having experience with all the popular pres, I love how it’s three in one. I would recommend this to anyone as a first also.

  • @HandWiredAmps
    @HandWiredAmps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Barry is right, $1000 a preamp. We all want to have awesome gear for cheap, but the good stuff just aint cheap.

  • @EthanRMus
    @EthanRMus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect video, thank you so much! History and flavors of specific brands, super comprehensive. Taught me everything I wanted to know as a beginner in the rack world.

  • @AlexValliMusic
    @AlexValliMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the Golden Age Projects Comp-2A and 3A and those are two ridiculously good sounding compressors for the money, I know we are talking preamps here, but if the compressors sound this good, I can only imagine how decent the pres are

    • @easternsouvenirs
      @easternsouvenirs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree. I have the Comp 2A and it has some serious vibe. Very colorful when pushed. I did a shootout with Comp 2A and 3A and both sound great. Similar character but the 3A is a bit quicker.

    • @mirkomarkovic3438
      @mirkomarkovic3438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Golden age premier 73 is a very serious pre, i use it interchangeable with the original neve. Except for vocals, but that's BAE land anyway

  • @XDarkstarXUnknownUnderverse
    @XDarkstarXUnknownUnderverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your service shipmate!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome shipmate!

  • @sirmacho
    @sirmacho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its kinda interest to hear that you served navy at dragon hill back in 90's actually they are U.S 8th army. My studio located at Itaewon. I just hit 'subscribe' by the way.

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ever considered live application gear as studio mic preamps? eg. Midas MR18 or M32, Allen and Heath Q/QR Series, you’d be amazed at the quality of the converters relative to price/channel count….

    • @JonathanWoodall
      @JonathanWoodall ปีที่แล้ว

      Also more easy to find Cat or thunderbolt connection too. I haven’t gone that route yet but I’m considering it.

  • @beautifulknowledge9584
    @beautifulknowledge9584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At my friends studio by UCF he has api and vintech 273 (1073 clone) we just recorded some drums for this Christian album we’re working on. Really awesome sound!! Love the API!!
    One day I will get one lol 😂

  • @jturnerguitar
    @jturnerguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    my presonus studio channel is silky smooth.........

  • @jeffalbro4534
    @jeffalbro4534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing is if your looking to get into colored sound for your studio needs there is a ton of company's building like the Neve 73 clones. It's like the China Company Alctron, it's like who are they. They are a huge company that builds pre amps for many big and not so big company's. They build to the specs of the company's who hire them for the build. So who do they build for? Universal Audio (710 Twin-Finity Microphone Preamp), Golden Age, just to name a couple. Then Alctron do their own spin on some of them as well and way cheaper. So it's like you got a real Neve, a after market Neve, then you have like Warm Audio spin on it. Then you have Golden Age spin on the clone, and then Alctron's spin on it. So how do they stack up compared to the real deal, well they do but they don't either. Are you going to notice a big difference in the mix, unless it's just bad sounding then I would call it a different flavor is all. Most are very useable. The thing is a lot of kids starting out don't have 10k or more to sink for microphone preamps. You can get the Alctron's 500 series N73 pre for 165.00, that's cheap and has huge transformers. They sound great for the cost of the things, you can get a used 500 rack off Reverb and load up a 8 to 10 channels of Neve sounding preamps on limited budget. They are quiet, lots of gain for ribbon microphones and have that sound. Do they sound just like a Neve, will no, but nether dose a lot of clones, but it will get the job done and has that sound, bottom line. It's all getting so good now days, and used is good to it it's not to old or you don't mind working on it or controls that might not work right. Been there, lol. So that's the thing I find kind of funny. You got the real deal, then you got a clone, and then a clone of a clone, then a clone of a clone of a clone. The thing is a lot of them come out of the same company that are to be built in China. You can get some nice 8 channel Neve pres. for about 4000.00, So that's like 500.00 a channel for the Neve 1073OPX 8-channel Microphone Preamp with Remote Control. So if you look at it that way a 500 series can get speedy too. BAE 1073MPL 500 Series Microphone Preamp is like 1100.00 for one preamp, Golden Age Project Pre-573 Premier 500 Series Microphone Preamp 400.00 for one channel, Revive Audio Modified: Alctron/ N-Sonic, Mp73a, N73Pre 500, Mic Preamp, New in Box! Smooth! 1073 380.00 one channel, and the stock one for like 165.00. So with that being said the Neve rack mounted one looks almost cost effective, compared to a old Neve channel strip racked up for 12k used. I've been thinking hard on the Neve 1073OPX 8-channel Microphone Preamp with Remote Control, who know maybe some day but for now many people could get by on a Alctron MP73EQv2 1073 Channel Strip Microphone Preamp and Equalizer for under 400.00. I own 6 of the N-Sonic Mp73a's and one 500 series Tone-Beast from Warm Audio. I use the Mp73a way more, they just have a great sound on drums, I use Grace designs two channel for the overheads. So yes, if your on a budget, just find what sounds good to your ears and sets right with your budget.

    • @jeffalbro4534
      @jeffalbro4534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking at the big picture the Neve 1170 eight channel is 500.00 per channel, the cheapist Neve clone is 165.00 and you have to buy the 500 rack too. So for 300.00 per channel more you can have the real deal, something to save up for. :)

  • @dinofond
    @dinofond 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very informative video Barry thank you much!

  • @NURREDIN
    @NURREDIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Barry,can you do the same type of video for "Channel Strips"? I just purchased a Drawmer MX60 PRO because the Focusrite ISA 430 MKII and the Rupert Neve Portico II channel are no longer available. I wanted an "all in one" rackable unit that comprised a pre-amp,EQ,compressor,de-esser and noise gate for vocals with the "British sound". Even though the Drawmer was 1/4 the cost of the Neve,it was the only alternative I could find, and it is made by the guys who used to work for Rupert.

  • @robbietomlin6715
    @robbietomlin6715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re very knowledgeable!!! Keep up the good work!

  • @sebastiangomezmusic
    @sebastiangomezmusic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you're an RME fan. Would you recommend the RME Octamic II vs the Audient ASP800? Or even the Audient ASP820?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the Audient a better buy for this.

    • @sebastiangomezmusic
      @sebastiangomezmusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BarryJohns is there a clear benefit to the 880 over the 800?

  • @jon4739
    @jon4739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Huge CAPI fan here. We have built 10 channels of the VP28 and built 4 channels of their compressors ( XFMR with Litz trans). I am a session drummer on the side for fun and these guys are just awesome ( usual mic number for a session is 13). Also have Sebatron VMP-2000 tube 2 channel which is pretty detailed for a tube pre amp compared to my LA-610 which is super "tube-ish". The A designs blue is extremely pristine to me. Just My opinions. Nice video :)

  • @sonyphotoguy6601
    @sonyphotoguy6601 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a MOTU Stage B16. Fantastic gear! 16 ins and 8 out, Adat for my old Motu interface.

  • @Behnan
    @Behnan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Barry, a Vocal comparison between UAD-Unison-Softwarepreamps and the real ones would be great. Most comparsion on YT are not very useful. If they put the vocal recordings side by side, the difference isn't really there as long as you don't distort the audio like lets say in Rockmusic. I think and hope you hear the 2000$ difference when you try to mix even decent vocals in context. That would be quit interesting !

  • @makemusicordie
    @makemusicordie ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally while watching this video my delivery of a 500 series API 512 C showed up. Excited to put it in the lunchbox! Have another channel of the same coming Sunday. Next is a BAE 1073, just currently trying to decide if I go for a dual-pre Rackspace unit or single preamp channel strip with eq…. Because after that I’m aiming for a pair of Distressors (w Brit mod)… it’s a good year for upgrades for me and the home studio 😁 always hard to decide which piece of gear to save for next!

    • @makemusicordie
      @makemusicordie ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t do a lot of EQ on the way in, so I’m wondering if rather than introducing outboard EQ to my set up, if it would be smarter to instead get 2 preamp channels in one unit. Currently have a pair of Burl B1’s and now a pair of API 512c… so I need to decide if I go for the flagship vocal channel strip, or just yet another pair of preamps with the BAE 1073 flavor. Leaning towards the latter, because if I want to do a stereo mic up of something and want to get the 1073 flavor I will have that solution. Plus that leaves more money toward Distressors… my question that remains, and that maybe someone in this conversation might be able to help me with: I noticed a couple very small specification differences on the preamps in the dual rack universe is the single channel channel strip with EQ. Anybody have any insight as to whether or not there is really any difference between that dual preamp unit and the single channel strip unit, assuming all EQ and extra bells and whistles are disabled/not considered… if anyone CAN provide insight, THANK YOU!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@makemusicordie I don’t typically recommend EQ’ing on the way in, unless you’ve got a very good, very good handle on what you’re hoping to achieve in the mix while you’re tracking. So keep that in mind.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, you’ve made some great choices so far, and your plans going forward, I’m behind them a 100%!

    • @makemusicordie
      @makemusicordie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryJohns Yeah, definitely. I’ve got a pretty good grasp on what I want out of my recorded signal, and I’ve actually recorded vocals through a BAE rack unit with the eq at a friends space down in LA, and did like the result, but more so just think I will get more use/value out of two preamp channels rather than one with EQ capabilities, and also then you gotta be ready for EQ recalls etc...
      Do you have any idea if the preamp section of, say, the BAE 1028 and 1084 rack units with eq, differ at all from the simple two-channel-unit’s preamps? I ask because I noticed the slightest difference in specifications, which flared up the OCD/made my choice just that much trickier ha ha. Any insight would be awesome, or even just your opinion on the matter overall :)
      Love your channel Barry, you’re awesome! I am a fellow home studio owner who makes a living working from said studio. Grateful every day!

    • @makemusicordie
      @makemusicordie ปีที่แล้ว

      UPDATE: Found out all the info I was after :)

  • @kingech_B15
    @kingech_B15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is apple becoming a leader in the audio industry?

  • @antnips
    @antnips 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know this is 2 years old now, but for anyone looking for great 'Bang for your buck' mic pre's, checkout the SSL Big Six. Get one on the used market. You basically get 4 SSL channel strips and the actual SSL G bus compressor circuit -- and the LMC (compressor).
    So, 4 SuperAnalogue mic pre's, 4 SSL EQ's, 4 SSL channel strip compressors, AND the G Bus compressor, AND the LMC (compressor) all for around 1900 USD (used market).
    Even for 4 quality DIY mic pre's (500 series) and a 500 series rack and power supply, you're going to get up in the high $1500 to $2000 price range.
    When I need 8 mic pre's, I just use 4 of my interface mic pre's, and send them out of interface into the 1/4 inputs of of SSL Big Six. Which is ch. 5, 7, 9, & 11 set to mono. Then send that out of Big Six into the DAW. Use SSL pre's 1-4 for Kick, Snare, Overhead L and R.
    The mic pre's are the same as the ones in their SiX 500 series modules ($400 a piece new). On top of that you get 4 additional stereo inputs with EQ, and all types of routing capabilities that will come in handy as you grow your workflow. It also sounds killer.
    One more thing, the pre's are very clean. They add little to no color. The channel compressors do add color (or saturation?). If you don't want to compress your signal very much, but want to tame/round-off those high-end transients, just engage the channel compression. The G bus comp = incredible.

    • @mirkomarkovic3438
      @mirkomarkovic3438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not a good pre, they use very nasty sounding ic's, got nothing to do with the "higher end" ssl pres.

  • @JesusArmasOficial
    @JesusArmasOficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Casually I was discussing this topic with a friend of mine that wants to invest on mic preamps for his studio.
    There’s a caveat though… he’s not great at speaking/understanding English.
    Regardless, I’ll pay attention to the video and then tell him!
    Regards from Spain Barry 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @a.c.7501
    @a.c.7501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Neve 1073.

  • @Fernandoorejudo
    @Fernandoorejudo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude, I don’t live in USA, but I really appreciate how honest you’re being about gear. Not many do that.

  • @TheJonOsborne
    @TheJonOsborne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s simple. TG2 or chase tone for your entire life. Take your pick. 😅

  • @AdamIronside
    @AdamIronside 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video man. This stuff gets very addictive though :D
    I have an IGS NE573 to cover Neve bases and An API312. I almost always record in mono and when we are recording the drum kits we have sixteen channels of Focusrite Clarrett.
    I went to mixing entirely in the box and sold all of my outboard gear off (I wish I'd kept some of it, such is the merry go round) and thought I'd get a nice mono front end for key things such as vocals or acoustic guitars.
    It goes IGS NE573 or API 312 into DBX 560A into Trident 80B.
    Over time I'd like to upgrade the 560 into something more 1176 flavoured.
    Anyway, great stuff man and enjoy the topics.

  • @derekdfarrington11
    @derekdfarrington11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From what I’ve seen and researched, it’s better to save money and buy a better Neve clone than the GAP. The GAP Comp-2A is the best LA2A clone for the price range, highly recommend.

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting a Warm Audio 73eq preamp.

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Focusrite ISA TWO is incredible!!!!!

  • @tonygunz21
    @tonygunz21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Golden Age’s Premier line (not project) is definitely worth a shot, in my opinion the best bang for your buck. I prefer them to great river.

  • @daviddavis9835
    @daviddavis9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I own the Audient ASP 800. Fantastic piece. You could buy better but the results would be negligible.

    • @dopesnare
      @dopesnare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will be incorporating that word into my vocabulary.

    • @vminator
      @vminator 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have an ASP880 and I absolutely love it.

  • @FreakinOutOnAudio
    @FreakinOutOnAudio 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ones that sound good are my favorite.

  • @anthonydicarlo9554
    @anthonydicarlo9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just wanted to say thank you for your channel. Since last year, been slowly getting back into playing and song writing, as well building my project studio again. I come from the Mackie and two adat world, with Cubase as my sequencer. Lol...

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it

  • @billymack4258
    @billymack4258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In your honest openion who makes the best pro high end interface money is no object. Thanks🙂

  • @SveinOlavGlesaaenNyberg
    @SveinOlavGlesaaenNyberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No love for the V72s and V76s?

  • @Joelfrancis
    @Joelfrancis ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn’t you mentioned Avalon V5 preamp or the 737 ?

  • @zanem9022
    @zanem9022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audioscape came with v1290, Wonder how it compares to heritage 73jr. Would be great if you can do a shootout.

  • @chrissanderson5850
    @chrissanderson5850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on Unison Preamps on the Universal Audio Apollo interface. I am able to use a Neve 1073 preamp as a plugin for the Universal Audio Studio interface. What do you think?

    • @ChaceBonanno
      @ChaceBonanno ปีที่แล้ว

      It sounds similar but not the same. It’s close enough for me, but not for everyone.

    • @chrissanderson5850
      @chrissanderson5850 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChaceBonanno thanks for your response!

  • @afroblue9427
    @afroblue9427 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Avalon is great! Great great!

  • @curtiskeller7852
    @curtiskeller7852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the Avalon 737 any good?

  • @samuelmathews7834
    @samuelmathews7834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of these older live consoles also had great mic pres and eq. We seem to forget...

  • @imflying2953
    @imflying2953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love your channel! really surprised you don't have waaaay more followers.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m still pretty new to it, o started it Mid June of this year. Thanks for the support!

    • @sideast
      @sideast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When he stops putting out videos aimed at the beginner market he will ,

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sideast I strongly disagree that most of my videos are aimed at the beginner market. A few yes, but most? That’s just not how I see it. Regardless, I don’t do this for popularity, I genuinely want to help people. I feel there is something in my videos aimed at the beginner to the long time established.

  • @henryssurfshowcase
    @henryssurfshowcase 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I have an Allen And Heath Mix Wizard 16 channel. Would you say those built in preamps are pretty good? Or not even close to a Neve?..

  • @BarryJohns
    @BarryJohns  ปีที่แล้ว

    I have several videos on that on my channel. Search for Mic Preamps.

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very sound advice. I just picked up a BAE 1073 rack unit on the used market for $750. Deals can be found with a little bit of patience.

    • @snippletrap
      @snippletrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is an insanely good deal

    • @PurpleMusicProductions
      @PurpleMusicProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snippletrap yeah I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I was like holy smokes I'm pulling out my credit card right now lololol. I got it from Guitar Center online. I haunt their website about every two days and have amazed a lot of high end gear and instruments that way. I'm a broke workingman so I have to count my pennies.

    • @officialdiomer
      @officialdiomer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      where did you buy it from!?

    • @PurpleMusicProductions
      @PurpleMusicProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@officialdiomer from Guitar Center actually. Every now and then they have some great deals on gear if you are patient and active in hunting.

    • @officialdiomer
      @officialdiomer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PurpleMusicProductions that’s dope!! i actually just emailed Barry because i wanted to hear his thoughts on my preamp situation. i recently got a Neve 5211, but i actually don’t like the silk feature on it as much as i thought i would. my next top option was a BAE -1073. should i go for one of them instead?

  • @oldservantrecordings
    @oldservantrecordings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. Thank you

  • @robertsimpson5801
    @robertsimpson5801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! It would have been awesome if you mentioned some of the “up and coming” digital standards, like MADI and Dante…. Especially Dante. Definitely pricey, but very impressive digital standard.
    I guess I should clarify that I meant you should mention them in relation to expanding your preamp selection.

  • @thomasschwarz1973
    @thomasschwarz1973 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your experience, subject.... ...we are the same age... I won't go into my past, but three words: new-england-digital synclavier, bankrupt, protools ))) that was 1990. I have an interesting question for you my friend. All I do it Stereo Rode 5 pair, Focusrite 2i2, Audacity DAW for recording Bach Piano, no effects, no compression, no EQ. Question, what is the best interface/stereo mic pre (w/phantom) for what I am doing? Neve 88M? I know that is all about 70's rock, but, maybe it is the magic sauce? Here is what I am doing, this is using the set up i described, so you say my friend, what is the best simple, stereo pre for this? Remember, no need to add effects, just AtoD, DtoA and two pre's.... th-cam.com/video/QgALIZE4T2o/w-d-xo.html

  • @thepick5663
    @thepick5663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you buy your preamps from? I mean besides Sweetwater.

  • @RnBLegacies
    @RnBLegacies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ima fan of the crispy polished sound I really want the Avalon m5 but it’s super expensive what do you think of the grace m101

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a video on studio budgets
    50k is ave cost and ppl do not like to hear these type of numbers.

  • @willmachuca8499
    @willmachuca8499 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need help in picking out a not too expensive interface using a pre amp Universal Audio solo/610 & TLM 103?Using mainly for voice over & recording traffic reports?

  • @trailerparkchronicle5874
    @trailerparkchronicle5874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok for acoustic guitars you said if 2 mics are being used it is best to have 2 of the same preamps so the sound is the same. What if I had only one preamp, one of the mics went straight to the interface to the daw and the other went first through the preamp then to the interface then to the daw, could I later take the recording of the one that went straight to the interface and route it out of the daw and through the preamp, back through the interface , back into the daw and basically reamp it?

  • @bushmanjive6314
    @bushmanjive6314 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about ir with the pa

  • @DannyTaylorHintonOK
    @DannyTaylorHintonOK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can learn SO much from you

  • @nate18268
    @nate18268 ปีที่แล้ว

    You definitely don't need anymore preamps....if you already have 5 racks. Wait a few months for the next one lol

  • @fishpotpete
    @fishpotpete ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm an ebay buyer and seller and have to say ebay is still my first choice in looking up used gear. Reverb is fine (and I've bought/sold there as well). But the shear volume of products on ebay can give you the better deal because there's more compitition. Reverb is mostly guitarist (and stores) buying and selling. Ebay can be anyone buying and selling so there's a larger audience potentially.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  ปีที่แล้ว

      We must be looking at a different eBay. As far as audio gear, it’s very, very limited for used gear compared to Reverb which has any type of gear you need, way beyond guitar related gear. When I’m looking to buy/sell camera gear, it’s eBay.

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur ปีที่แล้ว

    It is safe to say that most people roll in to recording because they want to write and publish simple songs. 16 tracks of audio usually suffices. For that to work 16 to 24 tracks bussed into 8 busses usually suffices.
    That way of working has been possible now in a decent way (128 samples buffer) since like 2014 or so. With a modest investment in a (usb) audio interface with 2/4/8 or 16 channel audio interface.
    So testing that on older computers and current offering would be nice. Two plugins per track is kinda overkill. You can create 4 stereo busses and compress and reverberate/aux process there. Leaving only noise gate to live drum tracks if needed.
    You created some 200 channel track templates on a new Mac. Cool. But can you also do the same on above mentioned templates and mention buffer settings?
    There are still a load of 16 ch to 8 busses rack mixers out there, Tied to a computer interface can give individuals a great workflow at modest cost.
    If you could condens this to some test setups in the different daw's out there you will be able to gain a bunch of followers who then can rely on setting their boundaries in their own projects by recreating such a mixing template and sticking with it.

  • @kennethgithinji5631
    @kennethgithinji5631 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm looking for 500 series. I want to avoid bulkiness

  • @martynlee1688
    @martynlee1688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Barry, thank you for the video! It’s always good to get someone else’s knowledge on high end mic pre’s. By any chance do you have any experience with the UK Sound 1173 mic pre, and compressor?

    • @jimshomestudio
      @jimshomestudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not Barry, but I bought 1 channel of 1173 as my 5th outboard and really like it. I do use the compression, and it delivers a nice signal to my RME interface no question. I also have Great River, Phoenix Audio and Dave Hill Designs and if I could add one more channel it would be the 1173, because the compressed version is nice and loud, so you hear more of the sound than what other preamps provide.

  • @JokerP5T
    @JokerP5T 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite TH-camr out, always high quality content 🔥

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, Thanks Curtis!

  • @officialdiomer
    @officialdiomer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your insight Barry! I just sent you an email

  • @corydanielmusichour
    @corydanielmusichour ปีที่แล้ว

    how bout you show us the stuff your talking about........

  • @helldotsin
    @helldotsin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At least an 8 minute intro on ADAT instead of preamps that we are here for.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brother on this channel, I don’t spoonfeed people. I’m gonna give you every thing you should consider, remember, I’m making videos for the masses. They’re going to be things I cover in videos that you may already be aware of, however, there’s also a ton of people who don’t have any knowledge of it. if you want to spoonfed and just told what to do, this is not for you. But if you want to have serious in-depth discussions, then it is. After all, it is called Studio talk.

    • @helldotsin
      @helldotsin 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BarryJohns key thing is to talk about what you said you were going to. Not everything else that is unrelated.

  • @calebsambrown
    @calebsambrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad I found your channel. Nice to hear someone talk technical and affordable

  • @Hopkins132
    @Hopkins132 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude thanks for sharing the history. This is the real part that's missing for most of us who had the youtube "eductionation".

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just need lots of analogue mono inputs rather than pre-amps, for synths and drum machines with individual outputs. What should I be looking at? I've seem the Ferrofish pulse 16 but it's really not much cheaper than buying 2x asp800. I know Behringer do some really cheap ones or a Presonus studiolive III 24R can work as an audio interface. I want quality but also a decent number of inputs. Since I'm not really using preamps much I guess only the AD conversion matters but i'm not sure what is best to get.

    • @mirkomarkovic3438
      @mirkomarkovic3438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ferrofish has the best converter quality

  • @amonchhetri1053
    @amonchhetri1053 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi how do you rate tl audio a1 dual valve preamp? among these?

  • @Andybaby
    @Andybaby ปีที่แล้ว

    Are Mackie preamps "good enough"?

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are not quite right about AES digital protocols, for example AES67 is 64 channels (Dante too)

  • @manuelgasse
    @manuelgasse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tell us what you shouldn’t have bought!!
    Thanks for the video.

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love of this boils down to money.

  • @ChrisCeeStylzChavez6155
    @ChrisCeeStylzChavez6155 ปีที่แล้ว

    I so needed these advice tutorial thanks Champ i got alotta gear point research to start looking up to see what would work for my usages ✌🏻

  • @ernieg
    @ernieg ปีที่แล้ว

    I need more I/O for my outboard gear , i have a Apollo x4 , what do suggest ???

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s your budget? How much additional I/O? What will you be recording with the additional I/O?

    • @ernieg
      @ernieg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryJohns 1k. i just order the ClarPlusOcto Eight-channel ADAT Mic Pre Expansion. What you think ?

  • @kuhliloach8842
    @kuhliloach8842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    loving the channel and have both an iD and EVO unit from Audient. I myself can't stand outboard gear. Mic pres, compressors, saturation units, and other fancy hardware actually annoy me when people try to use them. When I receive tracks I want them recorded into the interface with the shortest signal path possible. Pre-cooking them takes out all the fun. I love processing the signal from a guitar connected directly to the interface with a cord rather than mic'd. I dont even want vocals high-passed going in. That mud could be used for something who knows. Studio monitors are literally useless to me due to my room. It seems all we really need is a good laptop, a decent interface, and some headphones. Studios should be filled with mostly plants and not so much gear.

  • @chistianjoshua9498
    @chistianjoshua9498 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Berry! Thanks for the videos. Quick question, I have an Apollo twin audio interface, do I need a preamp?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would start with the unison preamps.

  • @JimJWalker
    @JimJWalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a Joe Meek SixQ. It is a nice inexpensive single channel MicPre/EQ/Optical Compressor with a SPDIF output. I am currently putting together a 500 series rack. I own the Warm Audio TB12 and a DBX 520 De-esser. I still need to buy the chassis, an EQ, a compressor. I plan to use this as my vocal chain.

  • @tubefixxer
    @tubefixxer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Barry, your helping me to save lots of money and to better understand lots of the gear that’s out now….I to was stationed in Seoul Korea at Yongson. Brought back lots of goodies for the studio….👍

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use an ONYX Preamp by Mackie into MOTU M4

  • @Dragonballz2078
    @Dragonballz2078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos and great advice. I came across your channel by accident. Happy accident!!! I look forward to more informative video like this.

  • @derekdfarrington11
    @derekdfarrington11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The rule for gear is you can only pick 2 out of three of the following: Price, Quality, Availability. I have 3 Stam products: a neve clone, api clone and bus comp clone. All three of those sound amazing, especially for the price and the wait was only a couple of months for each at the time. However, I bought a mic from them over 1.5 years ago and still haven’t received it yet. I’ve talk to them a bunch via email, they make things as parts are available and Covid shut them down for prolonged periods of time. They are located in Chile so that I plains why it’s hard to get.

  • @ThaexakaMavro
    @ThaexakaMavro ปีที่แล้ว

    i have an ADL600 can't live without it

  • @notsure1135
    @notsure1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got an audient interface, not recording drums at the moment.

  • @primee5730
    @primee5730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll say it if none of yall won't... FOCUSRITE ISA ONE

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing whatsoever wrong with an ISA One, great preamp!

  • @Googahgee
    @Googahgee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which category would you guys put the Focusrite preamps such as Clarett, Red, ISA? (Scarlett isn’t really worth bringing up here imo) I also think the FMR Audio RNP is worth a mention as a really good stereo pair of preamps for $500.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red and ISA are excellent! I’ve heard good things about the Clarett in the Price range.

  • @jimshomestudio
    @jimshomestudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two channels of Phoenix Audio DRS-Q4, and those go for half price on Reverb often. They have EQ built in which really works. Some people don’t care for them, and I’ve found that I like a nice loud amplifier for them, so I use them on my loudest sources, the Marshall amplifiers.
    The Dave Hill Europa 1 preamps are my nicest preamps, with the 2nd and 3rd order harmonic features. Nice and complex tonality without comp or EQ.
    I also have the Great River, but those would really like to have their companion EQ, or preferably the channel strip version MP/EQ would be nice. I keep an eye out for the EQ2.
    In your comments someone asked about the UK Sound 1173, with a built in comp. I only have one channel as a test but kept it and would definitely buy another. If you’re mixing music and you feel like parts get lost or buried in a mix, compression can really help that track stay alive. I know sound engineers and mix engineers have this down to a science, but for me, someone who never had a formal education, it was an interesting revelation.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve not had a chance to experience the UK Sound Channel Strip yet!

  • @ernestdaniels1671
    @ernestdaniels1671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video Barry, i just discovered your TH-cam channel. I purchased a WA73-EQ Preamp about 3 weeks ago. I first started with a Presonus Eureka, but I like the WA73-EQ much, much better.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support and enjoy that new channel strip!

  • @dannyho6786
    @dannyho6786 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was a great discussion, probably watch it again to soak up all the info !

  • @tmappe
    @tmappe ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you said a lot of great stuff here Barry. Watching this again. Really thinking about adding an Audient 800 or 880 to my Apollo 8xp to get 8 more channels for drums, but you are making me consider just saving my money for higher quality pres than that and keep learning about the pres by using the plugins in the meantime

    • @Ted_Swayinghill
      @Ted_Swayinghill ปีที่แล้ว

      I recently upgraded from a audient asp800 to a used rme octamic d
      its night and day despite the octamic d being older than the asp.

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever mention SSL in this video?

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brown Mark (my big bro in the music biz), bass player from Prince and the Revolution gave me some of the greatest advice ever!!!!
    He told me purchase the best mic pre my money can afford me.
    I’ll never forget it!!!

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@7gpi SSL and ISA two

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@7gpi red one

  • @nikinik7503
    @nikinik7503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even with somehow long video,was outstanding! Cheers!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy you enjoyed it!

  • @manuellujan5625
    @manuellujan5625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all the info sir. Looking forward to all your videos.🙏🏼

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 ปีที่แล้ว

    AES 67 ???

  • @andyellem
    @andyellem ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explaination!

  • @reread2549
    @reread2549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Universal audio 4-7 10 D is an excellent quad preamp with tube compression and adat. It’s a great deal comparing features to price.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I owned it several years ago and did in fact like it quite a bit. It’s great for the price for sure, I ended up selling it and bought an ISA828mkii with the digital card that I use for drums for remote recording.

  • @ricksmith201
    @ricksmith201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your video! Is it possible to ask your advice (email or otherwise) on a very specific gear question?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course, barryjohns@barryjohnsstudiotalk.com

  • @tonyAnthony1720
    @tonyAnthony1720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much 🙏

  • @maximivanov8886
    @maximivanov8886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about upgrading your mics before buying fancy mic pres?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats another video…..

  • @YOMO617
    @YOMO617 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do drum machines need pre-amps?