Emilia Clarke on Daenerys Burning King's Landing
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Game of Thrones Actress Emilia Clarke Reaction to Daenerys Targaryen Destroying King's Landing Ft. Kit Harrington (Jon Snow), Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister), and Jacob Anderson (Grey Worm) | Season 8 Episode 5 | The Mad Queen #GameofThrones
Say what you will about the writing, but don't trash Emilia Clarke. She acted her heart out in that last season. Her and Peter Dinklage really did amazing jobs with the horrid scripts they had.
She did so good. You could truly see the jealousy, the hurt, and the anger in her expressions/tone/body language. Emilia did such an amazing job of developing Dany’s character.
@Ragh nar Roog yes but she's still on another level of acting (loved Hayden in episode 3 though)
The crackhead in my area acts better than her
@@dv9239 cool, you should give him some script
@@dv9239 you sound like a bitter and lonely man. Sorry you have trouble with...well, you know. Must be tough to only be able to socialize online rather than in person.
Kit doesn’t BS about it. He said he didn’t see it coming, because it was just pushed in his face like with the rest of us.
I think you are the type of person that looks at murder and argue with logic.
@@lilwater7358 Well, you're generalizing. Murders can be explained with logic, others can't.
which is one thing that helped to make it so good. the show ~best film I've ever seen.
@@lilwater7358 I think you are the type that wants to justify cluster fuck called season 8 and horrendous writing.
@@stevem2323 Well no i dont. But i think the deny snapping made a lot of sense. Just not like this. She should have burned down the red keep only.
Emilia's best performance is in this video. She really tries to explain in a reasonable way the terrible choices that the writers created to kill her character development.
She felt SICK when she actually learned what Dany had done. She is being a good soldier in this video but I don’t think that is at all what the actress actually felt.
@@tracymetherell8744 one thing that was really pathetic was that after the actors told their real feelings about last season's writing(which was obviously negative)D&D made the actors talk positively and lie to back them up
those 2 literally hid behind their crew like cowards, that's why Kit and Emilia and Jamie's actor and the rest suddenly started saying the opposite of what they were saying before and started saying how good it was even though they already said it's shit
imagine forcing others to compliment you, that's some next level Insecurity and Narcissism
@Not Alfie The problem was trying to cram four seasons of character development into one. I don't mind Dany ending up as the Mad Queen, but the pacing is definitely not the first thing that comes to mind when talking about the best points of Season 8.
She must have been in a conundrum, since her job was to publicly approve of the final season's terrible writing even though she clearly did not want to.
... no.... the plot was always the same.. from the beginning... she was going to burn kings landing... this is not a kids movie.
it's crazy how Tyrion's connection to Daenerys in the books will probably be the exact opposite of the show
where Tyrion in the show tries to make Daenerys a more peaceful and more harmless leader and fails to do so
in the books he's probably gonna be a dark influence on Daenerys to make her more aggressive and will probably succeed in doing so
Yeah I don't think book Tyrion cares about anything or anyone at the minute. He sent Young Griff to Westeros to cause havoc and will convince Dany to do the same. Maybe he'll have a change of heart at the end but for now I think he just wants to watch the world burn as they say.
Tyrion is sort of a shit-show at the moment, stuck in the slavers camp and all. But I think he will begin to sort of turn it around. Tyrion of the books and Peter Dinklage Tyrion are so different at this point and in such different situations it's almost difficult to call them the same character. I am really looking forward to the "Battle of Fire", the upcoming battle at Meereen, to watch Ser Barristan channel his "Barristan the Bold" and lead his few young knights against the freak show of an army the slavers have assembled. I mean, men are fighting on stilts! And when Victarion unwittingly closes the trap it will be awesome to watch those Yunkish clowns fall. Damn I wish this book was out....
@Not Alfie It does matter because it will not be the same, did you read the comment?
Yup. He's the one who is going to manipulate Dany into becoming the mad queen cz he is out for venegeance.
@Major Problems Grow up.
Emilia: “It’s this feeling that you could call Targaryen craziness, you could give it all of these names that it DOESN’T deserve because it is just… grief.”
D&D: “HeR gEnEs tho”
Benioff also said “There is something kind of chilling about how Dany responded to the death of her enemies.”
Like every bloody character … Sansa smiling when she fed Ramsey to the dogs… MaD qUeEn Of ThE nOrTh!!
Ramsey was not innocent. I guess
Benioff, as well as Weiss, trying to retcon GoT fans by covering their idiot choices for Dany.
I don’t get why burning Kings Landing makes her mad in the first place. Tywin isn’t mad for sacking King’s Landing, Aegon isn’t mad for burning Harrenhal, Truman isn’t mad for nuking Hiroshima, Scipio wasn’t mad for destroying Carthage, it’s just how war is
Cersei, poisoning sand snakes in front of their mothers and making them watch and rot. Among a trillion other things.
Tyrion killing his father and woman he loved.
Jamie pushing Bran out the window.
Arya murdering ALL of the FREYS. And more.
Stannis: burns daughter alive.
Theon: Killing the miller's boys and the Starks household.
Danerys went too far in WAR. She's no worse than any of them.
Jon Snow: Executes Danerys because he wanted to choose rather than let Danerys choose.
Honestly, Sansa is the most justified and innocent person in the whole show.
Even Bran was less innocent than her.
And I'm not even really a Sansa fan.
But, yeah, Danerys gets a bad rap.
^ Lisa: I think Sansa has done her fair share of wrong and I don't think she was justified in many of her actions in the latter seasons (such as lying to Jon; withholding info about the KotV; betraying Jon by breaking her promise to him to keep his parentage secret and sharing it anyway so she can what she wants and prevent Dany from getting the throne, which would start a claimant war; hating Dany on site and publicly snarking off to her even though Dany came with all her armies to help save the North and realm both).
But I think Dany gets a bad rap too. Prior to 805, what Dany did wasn't really different from what many of the other characters did. And there are double standards that seem to only apply to Dany. I'm no fan of Dany's sudden 180 turn (since she had always been about protecting the innocent before), I think it was out of the blue and unearned for her character, but what she did wasn't war anymore. It was OOC but she massacred the city _after_ she won the battle, which makes no sense. Had Dany even just made a beeline for Cersei instead of going after the civilians, that would make more sense and be more justifiable (especially if she did it before the city surrendered). I think D&D wanted a shocking and controversial ending, turning one of the most beloved characters into "His Satanic Majesty" or whatever BS.
IMO, nothing in Dany's arc leads up to what she did in 805 or what she said in 806.
As for Jon, Jon didn't kill Dany because _he_ wanted to choose but because this new version of Dany in 8x06 didn't want anyone else to have a voice or say in her new world and was refusing mercy for the current generation, justifying her massacre on civilians and believing destruction was now the way to a better world -- which feels unearned for Dany's character. He didn't want to kill Dany at all, which is why he was pleading with her to go for mercy, and was prepared to die (and per the script, wanted to die) after killing Dany. His line about Sansa not getting to choose was pertaining to Sansa using _his_ parentage against his wishes to make _him_ an unwilling monarch over Dany in a plot to get what [Sansa] wants, not about disallowing anyone from having a voice. He only told Sansa on the condition that Sansa keep it secret, a vow Sansa willingly made. But then Sansa used Jon's parentage against his wishes to get what she wants (Northern independence, Dany overthrown) and force him into another position he was refusing, having abdicated in favour of Dany. Jon was essentially used as a tool. Meanwhile, Dany was talking about not allowing _anyone_ a choice or voice in her new world and herself being the sole decider -- which, imo, doesn't make sense for Dany to become as she did allow choices and voices before.
I'd forgotten how horrible it was to watch this ending.
hhaahahah
I envy you great one
I kind of liked the ending i think I makes sense she was trying to be the good queen but people keep pounding her . When you have a dream or a vision of doing something good for the people without caring about your interests and you see it crumbling that's the worst cause you truly believe in that vision it's wasn't driven by external factors like greed , jealousy etc etc
Plus She lost her best friend , her dragons it's reasonable for her to think " you know what? fuck it ! 😂"
I kind of feel satisfied by the ending good for her .
I know you'll think I'm a psychopath 😂 But i know it would be horrible in real life but it's a fictional so i guess ending was fine for me
Still if some of you think that i need a psychiatrist (cause when I say this to my classmates they say i need one 😂 )
I just want to say I'm totally fine i don't blood twice a year , i volunteer in accounts department of a NGO every Sunday although it started mainly because of building a good profile for college admission but I'm thinking of continuing it even after i get admission
@@Area-lr1mz Honestly, everyone i know who has watched the show shares the same thought. It’s hard to sympathize with the people of kings landing when they honestly seem horrible. I think it’s easy to see why she lost it. It was harder to watch her do something so horrible, and then turn around and talk about conquering the world. I was rooting for Dany so hard, and every time something happened to her, I was kind of waiting for her “fuck it” moment, but it didn’t come until the end of season 8. For it to come at that moment, when she was so close to the throne was heartbreaking to watch.
@@minabriel1078 all those vil peasant kids lol????
Book Tyrion is something else tho, after the ending of season 4 he realizes while Cersie and Tywin betrayed him completely, Jamie also lied to him about Tysha and how Tywin and him planned to take Tysha away from Tyrion and Tyrion swears revenge on Jamie and goes on to probably turn in to a real dark character.
that's way more interesting than that drunk baffoon that tells unfunny jokes and makes dumb plans that always fall apart
I think he becomes messed up. Rapes someone. Then thinks about raping Cersei. He even says he wants to rape her infront of Jaime. He gets more broken and fucked up, so he finally becomes the monster his father said he was. In my opinion he is going to be the one to manipulate Dany into becoming the mad queen bcz he is out for venegeance. It was obvious from his speech at the trial.
@@creativename152 I never understood how in the show at the end of Season 4 he gives that dark speech "I wish I was the monster you think I am" and then in season 5 he's chill as fuck like he forgot all about that stuff
when someone reaches that point, there's no going back in most cases.
@@Ar1AnX1xYh they made him pathetic in s5 and 6. All he did is joke and drink wine. I enjoyed watching him alot but thats bcz Peter's acting is so good. Tryion owned the first 4 seasons and thats why he is still my fav character. In the show and the books. I absolutely love characters that turn into villians overtime.
@@Ar1AnX1x How can you say he went chill after his speech? He killed his father and rebelled against his family.
@@suprdez3617 But as soon as he left Kings Landing he was all nice and good and ready to save the world. Like how does someone that literally wanted to kill the entire city all the sudden become so merciful and beg Dany not to kill them. He wants a good and decent world with a kind ruler?? Why? What was his reason for trying to help create a better world after what happened to him at the trial? And then coming back and pleading for the very people he wish he killed..? Even crying over Cersei's dead body? Hell no..
Emilia Clarke looks so different as Dany. It bewilders me.
A good actress getting into the role. Coupled with talented ppl behind the scenes bringing characters to life.
Emilia is such a Great actress and had many good scenes but by far her sitting on Drogon with that sad and mad look on her face is the best acting she’s ever done
And it would’ve made perfect sense for her to take off and burn Cersei alive but instead she kills a bunch of innocent people that Cersei doesn’t care about and doesn’t even go after Cersei?
@@sublimechimpshe wanted Cersei to see her destroying everything she has, to make her suffer even more before she finally burns the Red Keep. Dany knew that Cersei didn’t care about the civilians but she wanted her to see that she’s taking even that away from her, leaving her completely powerless over anyone and anything.
Stephen Dilane is superior
The *Skyrim "Tundra" OST* was quite ethereal to hear in the beginning, like... yeah, definitely a somber tone. 😓
😍😍😍
“I guess Jon and Dan… Danny stand on opposite ends of that”
Too damn good to be a coincidence
The thing about that final scene is the the audience was denied the ending they needed to see after investing in all those previous seasons. Instead, it was left without closure to all the story lines.
GOT had more than its share of villains, so adding one more as the story closed was deflating to say the least. Did they really think it was clever to begin with a mad king who burned, and ended it with a daughter who also burned? That's it?
The greater story was wrecked, and the writers tried to make a sloppy repair of it with that sappy final episode showing the Starks assuming their unlikely roles, John being banished to the North, the silly council, and worst of all, Bran as king. It would have made just as much sense to tack that final episode onto the ending of episode 1, separated by a title that said: "15 years later." There really is no point to everything else that came between.
GOT was a great series that deserved a better ending.
@cogitoergo LMAO !!
“The meek shall inherit the earth” is a far more compelling story than the “I am woman hear me roar” narrative that all the Dani-stans were pushing for. Bran as king is a brilliant idea, and probably the best part of the finale.
@@sethv.1349 Meek would have been Sansa getting the iron throne...We hardly even followed Brans story...Sansa was the one who was truly weak and broken early on. Bran we barely even saw.. And if Sansa isn't meek by season 8 then neither is Bran as someone who literally knows anything he wants to know.
@The Fox Strikes Lol no...Fuck no.
@The Fox Strikes Bran sucks and was boring as fuck. His story of being the 3 eyed raven ultimately affected nothing...As did Jon Snow being a Targaeryn...Like who cares now? Why did they develop that whole story of his lineage if it didn't matter at all? Tyrion had a dumb anticlimactic ending even though he was a terrible hand. Yara and all the iron islanders just let Sansa claim the north as their own kingdom yet they don't give a shit to do the same. The nights watch is literally useless yet they somehow need to send people there to appease Grey Worm. Even though he left westeros and would never find out where people actually went...Jamie Lannister literally just abandoned all character development and went back to square one for no actual reason...These are just some of the dumbass things that happened....Did you not hear the finale was an actual disaster and caused most fans to hate the show now...?? Where the fuck have you been??
"Theres only so much pain you can handle before you snap".....same is true im real life. I dont blame dany, i just feel bad for her.
Honestly Daenerys being driven to do this actually makes sense seeing as everyone close around her has been killed by the enemy. Problem is they rushed it as in all the seasons they were doing a slow descent into madness for her and then all of a sudden she went full blown insane. If they spaced it out and made it more gradual I think it could’ve been good.
Not saying you’re wrong, but I feel like my theory, at the time it aired, would’ve been more satisfying. The NK sent a group to fight in the north but took a large portion to kings landing himself to raise the dragons from the pit, crumbling half the city and growing his army. Jon and dany lose some forces but show up just in time to watch cersi turn into the walking dead and save the day.
Well it also didn't make sense how they wrote her friends dying to be honest. The whole last 3 seasons don't make narrative sense
Examples of bad writing: Dany has never taken a city by attacking it with an army but all of a a sudden she comes to Westeros and abandons half the tactics they used to take Mereen and Yunkai. None of "smart" people on Dany's council suggest using the super assassin that killed the Devil to assassinate Cersei. And not to mention why the F*CK WOULD CERSEI KILL HER ONLY BARGAINING CHIP(Missandei)? The Hound lecturing Arya about revenge when HE NEVER TALKED ABOUT REVENGE EVER, not even in passing. And taking a character that spent years freeing innocent people and decided to halt her campaign to protect all of Westeros from the NK but all of a sudden because her "victory feels empty" yeah fuck Jorahs sacrifice and everyone else's to protect even the people here at kings landing let's have a roast......if you think that was set up throughout the show you're intellectually a potato. So no it does not "make sense"
@@PrinceIsot Cersei killed Missandei to provoke Dany into attacking. Cersei felt confident she could take out the last dragon and hold the red keep. Cersei had a ton of ballistae and fresh troops. She comments to this in the movie several times. As far as Dany goes, she snapped. You're being completely rational about your viewpoint which is a mistake when dealing with human beings. There's too much emotion involved. I would suggest you get out and meet some people. It would allow you to enjoy the show more.
@@dflatt1783 yes I am being rational and practical, something almost entirely required when forming military tactics, which leads me to my second point. All of Dany's forces and the dragon were in range of those Scorpions when Cersei killed Missandei. ...that's the end of the war right there. There's no narrative reason why the characters behave the way they do, especially when the same show has displayed their prowess and willingness to do aforementioned actions.
It still hurts. People aren't angry at the cast. Because the actors put their heart and soul into their work, they made it special. They made heroes we aspired to, characters we loved, villains we reviled and loved to hate. Because they all of them, are fantastic actors and the show would not have been the phenomenon it was without their amazing contributions.
Which is why it hurts so much, to see Dany as a hero take such a dark turn. When for a lot of fans, she's the breaker of chains, fighting to free people from tyrants. Some of us couldn't believe Dany would take such a dramatic shift. Not because Emilia Clarke didn't sell it. But because literally years of her aspiring to be better than people believed she was, was thrown away by a rushed script.
To be fair, you can see some of her "madness" in like season 5-6 in 7 when she isnt respected by anyone especially by Sansa, you can see alot of anger and jealousy... So when she snapped after seeing Missandei executed after telling her to Dracarys... Well Dracarys she did...
@@thedragon12really? That's your example??? That Dany is pissed of because sansa isn't extending her even the slightest bit of courtesy when she trudged all the way to the ass fuck land with her entire army and 2 dragons ( one of who she sacrificed because of them might I add)that's completely useless to her winning the throne to save their ungrateful asses and Samsa being a little bitch pisses her off. As if anyone wouldn't be in that situation. Sure it was all their lives on the line with White walker, but she could've just as well let the North have their "independence" they now care about when they haven't since the time of Torhhen Stark , let them die off and save the actual kingdom she plans on ruling.
Why is only Dany held to this double standard? Anyone in this story can and have done horrible things but only she's micro analyzed for foreshadowing madness. For the so called infamous "Targeryean madness" only two have been truly mad, Aerys and Aerion bright flame. Tywin drowned an entire castle out , Tyrion burned men with wildfire, Cersei blew up the sept of baelor, and Jaime was ready to catapult Edmure Tully's new born son but no one's talking about their madness. No only the Targeryeans are held under scrutiny .
*Points at butterfly* is this foreshadowing of madness?
"Fools love a fool" people go on about Dany yet forget the superior characters like Stannis and Littlefinger who were misrepresented from very early on.
I suppose Daenerys just kinda forgot citizens were innocent.
their innocent is the weapon of Cerci
Daenerys be like: I don't want to be Queen of the Ashes
Also Daenerys: Burns everyone to become Queen of the Ashes.
Tyrion be like: I wish I had enough poison for the lot of you
Also Tyrion: We must protect these innocent people
Also also Tyrion: Oh my Queen killed the people that cheered to see my head rolling. Oh well, time to hate on my queen cuz how dare she
Jon Snow be like: Oh I am in truth a Starkaryen, the rightful heir to the iron throne
The Writers: What now?
Bran be like: I am not Brandon Stark. I am the three eyed raven. I can never be lord of anything
Also Bran when asked to be king: Why do you think I came all this way? Even though I've never mentiones I could see in the future and if I could I could've foretold all the tragic regarding Daenerys but I kinda didn't feel it.
The Dragons be like: We're very powerful beings, so much so it takes the Night King to kill one of us!
Also the Dragons: And a few boring spear bolts should do the trick cuz after I get hit once everyone will just stare and I won't react at all
That is just to name a few. :)
But they were also not slaves like those in cities before. They were there of their own choosing whether they supported the Iron Throne or not. Not entirely innocent but complicit in her eyes.
@@beaux2585 Beaux is smart, but i guess not THAT smart.
@@sebastienrameau Just looking at it from a different angle. Thanks for the compliment.
HBO delisted this video but fans found and copied it. Emilia is directly stating “Dany is not insane”, and it sounds like she’s describing a different episode than the one that aired…because she IS! The table read script was different! This was a last minute change!
That’s what happens when your actors know your characters better then the writers
hey dragon demands. love ur work. esp ur analysis of david & dan
She doesn’t go mad, you’ve just decided she’s mad
@@Enzophanis1892 except that the writers said that she went mad
@@winstonlewis5630 the writers could make Tyrion magically transform into a squirrel; just because they did it doesn’t mean it made sense, or more importantly, it doesn’t mean they always intended it. Even stuff like Aria killing the Night King they admitted was a last minute change.
I feel bad for Emilia Clarke... her character was supposed to be heroic. She knew it, we knew it... only the writers didn't know it.
You not pay attention to the various horrific things she did from series 2 onward?!
@@Thelatenightchipshopexperience Everyone in the series did horrific things. What is your point?
@@AlexSanLyra what is meant by "supposed to be heroic". She acted like a villain for much of the story. Including invading westeros and starting a war noone wanted!
@@Thelatenightchipshopexperience Cersei had just blown up the Sept of Baelor and destroyed the future of house Tyrell making enemies of the remaining houses of the reach and the faith. The sand snakes had taken power in Dorne and saw Cersei as their enemy. You are very naive if you think war was not inevitable even if it was not wanted.
In reference to the 'horrific' things she did, lets list them.
- Allowed the murder of her brother, a sadistic abusive man who sold her.
- Crucified the masters of Mereen, who enslaved, raped, tortured and killed innocent children.
- Kills her friend and Xaro of Qarth after selling her dragons and butchering her people as an attempt to rise to power.
- Kills Varys, a now stupid man who had attempted to kill her, was warned, then changes his allegiance to Jon Snow for no foreseeable reason.
These are bad things outside of context. These actions and decisions always have had reason behind them and were not done out of generic villainy. Believing that is lying. In this world, people do bad things all the time, such as...
- Ned Stark beheading a young, scared soldier trying to warm the realm of the oncoming threat.
- Robert Baratheon putting hitmen on a teenage girl and her unborn child.
- Jon Snow beheading a brainwashed child.
- Arya Stark slaughtering an entire family.
- Sansa lying for Littlefinger after her aunts murder.
- Jaime murdering a young stark bannerman.
- Tyrian murdering his lover and father.
Yes, Daenerys has done bad things, but it always came with reason. People supported her in the world and as an audience because we agreed with her politics. Slavery is bad, etc. You cannot then have a character suddenly swap to Hitler, massacring innocence with no rhyme or reason, then call the audience out for cheering her on throughout the story as though we are at fault.
In the case of foreshadowing, you can argue that almost every character on this show could have had foreshadowing to villainy, but you are forgetting one important aspect. Foreshadowing /= Character Development.
Just because you foreshadowed something, doesn't mean that it makes sense. If they wanted her to descent into madness, it should have been given to her character through a natural arc, and not be instantaneous to then insult the audience as being too 'stupid' to notice the breadcrumbs. You as well as other commenters thinking they have some form of foresight over anyone else and are somehow smarter because 'of course this is what was going to happen, all you other viewers are just lesser' are basically on the same level as the writers telling us Sansa Stark is now incredibly smart in season 7-8 through the other characters dialog without actually showing us through her actions.
You didn't see something we didn't. It was just poorly handled.
@@Thelatenightchipshopexperience Well, I wanted that war. Hehe. I was rooting for her all the way. I simply didn't like that she went crazy in the last season. She went from "freer of slaves" to "slayer of serfs" in the snap of a finger.
But I get what you're saying.
Ultimately, in a world as bloody as Westeros, I suppose the least evil person is the hero.
I remember that look on Cercei's face, even she was slightly shocked by what was going on.
Which look?
@@jsmithers. th-cam.com/video/ega7Fm3LVE4/w-d-xo.html
Ah yes Cersei, another character they did dirty
@@Shane-Flanagan True nobody actually talks about that. But she deserved more than to be cowardly and stupid in the end.
@@jsmithers. Pretty sure that's what she always was. Her seeming to be confident and strong was just a persona to make her feel powerful, because feeling powerful is all that matters to a narcissist like her
Dany doing war crimes and burning King’s Landing could have been an amazing plot point, but they really fucked the writing the reach that point so it felt contrived and out of nowhere just for the sake of surprising the audience, which is the biggest mistake while telling a story.
Exactly. I assume GRRM was/is planning on that happening in the books, but in a way that will make more sense and work better
"war crimes" is a 20th century concept. Any ruler on the show would and has done the same, probably without any hesitation
@@justinmingus191 I mean, in the books there's a character called Jon Connington whose whole arc is him regretting being moral and not killing an entire town, which could have ended Robert's Rebellion.
Yes, the concept of morality is much more thin than ours in this universe, but most people won't do atrocities and people would just take it. Aegon got away with the masacre of Harrenhall because everyone hated Harren the black, but when kings start killing innocents and civilians, that's how rebellions start, just ask Dany's father. War crimes is very much a thing, even if they don't call it that, most people follow a code during war to less the civilian causalities as much as possible. For ethical reasons and because they don't want the whole realm to hate them.
@@V_i_vi_an Oh right, like when everyone rose up against Cersei when she killed the HIGH SEPTON the QUEEN and Lord Tyrell. Oh wait....
Go rewatch the scene, there are Lannister soldiers in nearly every shot where Drogon is attacking. And Cersei is an insanely untrustworthy pos and never formally surrendered to Daenerys. Also, Stark men were just as willing to massacre and rape civilians
@@justinmingus191 I was talking books. The fact that Cersei didn't face concequences for blowing up the sept of baelor is actually insane. George wouldn't do that. Tywin sacked King's landing the same way the northmen did in the show and people hate/fear the lannisters for that, especially Tywin. It's not like people used to do shit and they didn't get revenge or rebellion, it was like that for the forst 4 seasons when the show followed the books, but after that everyone do shit and nothing happens. George is a good writer, and if Dany commits genocice against a whole city, you can believe it, she's going to get some form of retribution.
1:16 It is just... *don't say bad writing, don't say bad writing* GRIEF!
The place we got to wasn’t the problem, just how quickly we got there. The writers wanted to move onto other projects, so the steamrolled development and just threw plot points in. I truly believe people would’ve been hurt but not angry if they had just taken the TIME to show things develop
I think that if Martin finished his book as intended - which was for the events seen on the screen to happen - then people would have easily accepted and embraced the ending and wouldn't be so bitter about it. But the bad writing gives them a reason to be upset about Martin's intentions, which isn't really fair.
Now because of their choice to give a quick and terrible ending D&D will never have a project ever again
The fact that D&D havent done anything noteworthy after ruining GoT is a poetic justice in itself.
@@joshthaller4754 They released a show in Netflix and it was good.
Just a reminder to people that the released scripts + Emilia Clarke being in literally just a green screen during that whole sequence shows that what she's saying in this video is what she believes to be true. She wasn't told and wasn't shown the extent of how brutal that sequence was , or just how much she was lied to, until literally her charity viewing party where she watched it with a bunch of people.
Music is from Skyrim. It's "Dawn" :)
It goes great with reading classical and fantasy genre's
Tis actually tundra :)
Ah that’s it I knew it sounded familiar thanks dude!
Within 40 secs kit harington sums up all our feelings. Absolute shame, because these actors were good enough to leave a real legacy peice.
they did. just because you didn't understand it, don't be so critical. it was classic.
@@SaltyMinorcan didnt understand what exactly?
@@SaltyMinorcan ok U can turn your critical mind off, that’s a personal choice. but for a show that’s asks you to be smart to suddenly have to be dumb to enjoy it is yikes.... nobody has to like it. I thought it was bad and I wouldn’t accept it w any other show, this gets no exception from me
Strange that they use the Skyrim soundtrack for background music. Not that I'm complaining!
Skyrim belongs to the Nords as the seven kingdoms belong to Stannis Baratheon, the one true king!
Kit Harington keeps it 100%
Emilia is just explaining the anger she feels towards the writers.
I think she understands Dany's grief. I understand why Dany did what she did. I understand it was horrific. Yet the people dying in Kings landing was inevitable. They had to die. The Freys had participated in Rob Starks death. The people of Kings Landing had cheered when Ned Stark died.
Winter came not only for Kings Landing but also for its Iron Throne.
This is complete and utter nonsense and you are justifying mass murder. She had won the battle, easily, with a single dragon and zero collateral damage. Then the city surrendered. And *then* she burned hundreds of thousands of civilians. It was senseless and pointless. She murdered babies who weren't even born when Ned died, families who had nothing to do with anything. It was not remotely inevitable, they did not "have to die". Shame on you.
I realized I’m in the minority for getting why Dany did what she did. There were a lot of flaws in the last 2 seasons, but this made sense for her character.
This show is still the GOAT no matter what anyone says.
Its not
“There’s only so much pain you can handle, before you snap.”
That is the entire point. The fandom of the show doesn’t understand that. The Queen did what needed to be done. Which permitted the Starks and the rest to then do what they wanted.
If anyone should've gone mad and obliterated the city, it should've been Aerys's other daughter Cersei; in a fit of desperation after miscarrying her baby and realizing the war w/Daenerys was lost. I think an "if I can't have it, nobody will" approach is entirely consistent w/Cersei's character. Not to mention GRRM has been building her up to be the 'Mad Queen' since before the start of AGOT. How epic would it have been if Cersei's final scene was her sitting on the throne saying "burn them all" then getting engulfed by the wildfire explosion...In my mind, this would also be a proper send off for Lena Heady; an ending that dignified 10 years of her brilliant work. Just my humble opinion🤷♀️.
Personally I'm okay with it being Dany as the perpetrator of the burning. But there are better way to write that in.
Imagine if Dany tried to take down the scorpion but Cersei crowded civilians around it. The civilians were so terrified to see dragons, a small child throw stones at them, one of the stones hit Dany and Drogon snaps and burn them before Dany could react. And Jon Snow can only see it from afar and decided to swoop in on Rhaegal trying to stop the madness only to have the dragons snapping at each others. We have an accidental Dance of the Dragons with civilian casualties all around while Cersei is watching all this with glee in her eyes.
i mean, she just lost one of her dragons not even a hour before she blows everything up.
I would love to see that… This would have been the coolest ending possible, i hope grrm reads this ☺️
I think it is obvious that Daenerys will go mad in the books.
First of all, Dany is obsessed with fire and burns people alive. This can be inferred from her last chapter in AGOT.
„Only the fire mattered. The flames were so beautiful, the loveliest things she had ever seen, each one a sorcerer robed in yellow and orange and scarlet, swirling long smoky cloaks.“ -Dany
This demonstrates her love for fire, which is disquieting because the Targaryens have a dangerous affinity to fire.
Also, it is foreshadowed that she will burn the capital when she thinks „It was King’s Landing and the great Red Keep that Aegon the Conqueror had built. In her mind’s eye they burned with a thousand lights, a fire blazing in every window. In her mind’s eye, all the doors were red.“
This is another of many foreshadowings that Dany will burn the capital in a fit of madness.
Furthermore, in the books she often suffers from fits of rage and hate, and often does something irrational when she is angry.
This implies that she cannot control her anger and rage.
An example would be the wineseller‘s daughter. Daenerys orders the innocent maid to be tortured harshly in Meereen when she yet again suffers from anger. This is another irrational action during her fits of rage. From this we can infer that she will burn King‘s Landing (irrational) when she is angry. The death of her best friend by the hands of Cersei could lead her to this hate.
People are blind towards this evidence because most men would rather deny a hard truth than face it. I repudiate every argument that states Daenerys will not go mad. I think it is obvious that Daenerys is a dangerous person and not fit to be a queen.
@@noizW Thanks. Given that the show negated the valonqar part of Maggy the Frog's prophecy, I thought that ending would've been acceptable. My other thought was that Euron would kill Cersei to steal her throne. Not just because that's his M.O., but because he'd realize Cersei lied about him being the father of her baby after Tyrion referenced the pregnancy during the parlay outside the city. Remember, Tyrion hadn't seen Cersei since the dragon pit meeting. So for Tyrion to have known about her pregnancy means she had to have been pregnant then- before she and Euron slept together. I thought Euron would realize that and kill her by drowning. Making her a sacrifice to his God AND satisfying the valonqar prophecy (despite it's exclusion)- because not only is Euron a younger brother, but when people drown it's choking on the water that kills them. So a valonqar would technically be strangling her, as was foretold.
Emelia put it perfectly, there's only so much hurt you can go through before you snap, in some way, Dany bottled up a LOT of the trauma she had been through, not just her but the titanic responsibility she had, leading an army, raising dragons, losing lovers, losing a child, being assaulted, imprisoned. End of the day she was human and she snapped yet almost everyone put her on a pedestal thinking she was going to be this pure as the driven snow saviour. Obviously her killing innocent women and children was wrong but her mind in that moment was gone, all that was left was her grief and that anger she held onto. It was an interesting twist, I don't agree with how she died but it can't be changed now.
My heart just broke for Dany. It still does. Seeing those scenes again is so hard. When it happened I just had my mouth open the whole time like...baby no, no. She really was alone, with just her dragon, and Grey Worm at her side. No real love, no family, no friends. I've been there, and I've burned several metaphorical cities because of it. Dany is still my queen. She deserved a hell of a better life than she got.
I believe my reaction was "OH COME ON!" I felt the show just flush everything down the toilet. I mean the season was bad leading up to that but it was still possible that it could save itself until this episode. It's the only time I felt like the writers didn't like their audience. It felt sadistic. You know a lot of kids were named after her..and the actors got crapped on to. Heck all the people who engineered such an amazing looking episodes got crapped on because the bad writing overshadowed their work. Then you imagine all the merch and blueray sells because you can't even rewatch the show now. HBO must have been infuriated...but then again they somehow let that happen. From the greatest series ever made to nothingness. People still talk about and watch the Sopranos but not GOT.
Made absolutely zero sense
actually i think they could have made sense about it... if they just gave the last season more time to develop ... To show dany going mad slowly but surely, not being able to control her rage... stuff like that... but the last season was just rushed and loveless, not only this scene... and all that while the first seasons were so promissing
@@veganchocolatemousse Oh yes definitely agree… needed an extra season to develop the turn.
@@veganchocolatemousse I invite you to see the full series again, and I promise you that it doesn't only make sense, but from the start you'll see that it's the only possible outcome. Daenerys is a narcissistic entitled vengeful character from the very beginning, it's just that somehow we don't want to see it.
It reminded me of the movie "The Prestige", where everyone tells Hugh Jackman what's really going on and we're so invested in his journey that we choose not to believe them, just like him. And then we see the reveal and it still surprises us, when it's already been said several times during the movie.
Daenerys would probably end up burning King’s Landing in the books, also. The difference is the lead up would make the climax seem believable.
I think it will have to do with fake aemon.
I like the idea behind Daenerys going mad after finally reaching Westeros, but the show didn't show that decline into madness well enough IMO. I'd like to see how Dany deals with fAegon's invasion of Westeros in the books and how that will affect her mental state(Haven't finished ADWD yet, so I dunno if she hears about/interacts with him in that book)
fAegon will play his part, but I actually expect it to be Tyrion who turn out to be the villain.
In his apathy, Tyrion has advised fAegon to go against his handler and go directly toward King's Landing. Not because he believe in fAegon's cause, but because he wanted King's Landing to suffer. If he eventually becomes Daenerys' hand, the sacking of King's Landing will be entirely by his advice. He despise the city, he saved them but he was cast out for being a dwarf. There's absolutely no reason for Tyrion to even contemplate saving King's Landing.
At the moment, the only lifeline to Tyrion soul is Penny. Once she's gone the path to Tyrion's apathy will be complete. And he will sack King's Landing just like his father did before him.
"Sanity is like gravity, all it needs is a little push!"
Poor Emilia tbh...
Her character could've gone down in pop culture as one of the epic tragic protagonists of fiction. But this doesn't even make enough sense to be considered a tragic "arc".
The fact that you put some Elder Scrolls music in the background helped remind me how much Grey Worm's brooch thing looks like the Elder Scrolls Online logo
Dude game of thrones always having to explain why their characters did what they did
Yeah remember when we could see that for ourselves, the show actually tried to bandage the fact that they didn't properly lead up to Dany going crazy when before the episode aired they played a bunch of sound bites out of context about Targaryen madness to try to manipulate the audience to believe the BS they're about to give us
@@PrinceIsot Seriously, WTF show did you watch? She swore to take what was rightfully hers "WITH FIRE & BLOOD" from jump... literally entire seasons of her spouting that phrase.
@@somashaman yeah? Did you not watch it the show how she never took any of the cities in Essos with fire and blood? She had her people take the back door sneak in and let her armies take control with be little bloodshed. So want to try again? Also in this same show she has shown that she very much is against killing innocent people until she magically isn't. Don't @ me if you aren't going to bring anything relevant
@@somashaman saying something isn't the same as doing it 😏 next....
@@PrinceIsot She killed the masters with fire and blood and in very brutal ways. You can't really say she wasn't out to kill at ALL. But this is exactly why her brutality was excused for so long, which lead to her thinking that burning all of King's Landing was to "free the people". She didn't have remorse. She didn't feel guilt for killing her enemies. And people worshipped her for killing brutally, she never was punished. Which is why she thought oeople would bow to her after burning King's Landing.
Emilia understood Daenerys far better than the writers did.
I think we all agree with Kit, we didn't expect Dani to fire bomb the city and what the writers did was horrible 😳
Wow that ep really fucked with the actor's minds. You can see it in their expressions and eyes. Also too tho, I don't think this was out of character for Dany, she's always had a bent towards violence but her friends kept that in check. Now theyre dead and there's no check anymore
Just came from a Skyrim binge. The music got me questioning if I left the game on LOL
“There’s a part of Tyrion at that moment that completely dies.”
Audience: same…
Great comments by the actors explaining how their characters processed the pivotal scene of the series. It does make each character more relatable to me. I have no real problem with the way the story arc ended for both Daenerys and Jon. Her tragedy was that she lived on a knife's edge between power and mercy, and the constant violence and abuse she faced, at every stage of her life, finally tipped her over into blind rage. Jon's tragedy was that he cast his entire future into her judgement and abilities (for good reasons) and was unable to help her or stop her from destroying everything in a single instant of madness. In denying his own right to rule, he lost everything -- even the woman he had given up his crown for.
Jon didn't give up any crown. He has No claim to it whatsoever. At this point baratheons have much higher claim than him. Danny earned her place unlike jon who NEVER saved people out of goodness of his heart but to avoid having more zombie enimies. And he never loved daenarys. He stood by and stayed silent as people were planning to murderer her and he knew all about it. It only says he wanted her dead as soon as he knew he has some relation to the Targaryens. He is woest than lord balish, cersi or Sansa Starks.
^ to above response: Your comment is quite inaccurate as to what actually happened in the show and I wonder why you insist on completely twisting his actions like this and making fabricated claims. Per the scripts and writers themselves, Jon loved Dany. Jon didn't know about Varys's or any one else's plot against Dany's life. He didn't know all about it. Varys never told him about it, Varys kept this plot secret from everyone -- even from Tyrion. Dany herself didn't know about it. Only one person did -- Martha, the little girl.
Jon did abdicate his claim to the Targaryen dynasty in favour of Dany's. When Jon was implored to take the crown, Jon refused in favour of Dany's claim. In the show, Dany and Jon were treated as having claims to the throne. In the line of succession, Jon's claim was greater than Dany's but Jon gave up his claim for Dany's.
Jon didn't know Sansa was going to break her word to him and betray him to tell people about his secret. There's absolutely no support for the idea that Jon wanted Dany dead as soon as he knew he was blood related to Dany. I can't see how that makes sense. In the finale, Jon tried to rationalize Dany's actions after she massacred a surrendered city _because_ he never wanted to kill her and wanted to give her another chance in hopes she would go for mercy. That was because of love for her. Had it been anyone else, Jon would have acted against them right away as he has before but with Dany, he fought against Tyrion urging him to kill her even after she killed half a million civilians who surrendered to her. That's why he was pleading with her to show mercy in their final scene but when she refused, he couldn't just let her burn the world.
Like Dany, Jon saved people because he cared about strangers. He argued that the wildlings were men, women, and children who the Night's Watch were sworn to protect and they shouldn't be left to die because they were born on the wrong side of the Wall. He was willing to risk his life and he did die due to his efforts to save other people. He was willing to commit taboos to defend the realm from Mance's attack like breaking sacred guest right and fully expected to die. He also expected to die after Daenerys's death and wanted to. Jon's whole story was about defending the realm. Like Dany, he could have just f*cked off and gone south, let the war against the dead be somebody else's problem. But he didn't and neither did Dany when both had quite a few opportunities to seek safety for themselves. He always chose protecting the realm.
Dany didn’t go mad, she was super pissed and has a dragon, honestly the fact that 99% of the time she could restrain, is the hard part. Everyone can have a bad day, but if you have a dragon, a lot can be lost and destroyed in that one moment.
She Did Was She Was Pushed To do🤷🏿♂️
This scene made more sense when you look at Dany's past work. We cheered at first when she killed the evil slave owners, or freed the unsullied, but she was not always level headed. She killed both the father and son of house Tarly when they would not bend the knee. Fighting was done, and they were decimated. This house was not known as evil in itself, but merily agreed partners in war times under Lanister. Once she told Jon Snow, "if they don't love me, they will fear me". She said this after Jon (knowing she as his aunt) rejected her romantic advances. She killed Vary's after finding out he was sending a revelation to other house(s) that Jon Snow was the rightful heir to the thrown. Her only goal from the beginning was to rule the 7 Kingdoms, then later after that was accomplished she wanted to rule the world. It's also worth noting her father was the Mad King, who had killed the entire house Darklyn after a kidnapping. This long line of pure bred breeding may have led to her fall into insanity and paranoia. Plato - 'Only those who do not seek power are qualified to hold it.'
Varys was trying to poison her. None of what you said matters because we never see Dany start to come unglued at any point. The only moment where she looks vulnerable of falling into darkness is when she is not eating (to avoid being poisoned) and appears emaciated and unrested. Fast forward to the battle and she looks well and sharp. Leaving it up to the audience to piece together potential clues to solve the riddle that is a complete change of character (murdering innocent civilians by the hundreds) that occurs on the cusp of total victory is so far beyond lazy it has to be incompetence.
@@beau6113 Before she gets on her dragon in the morning she eats some of the prior nights dinner. I doubt she knew anything about poison. Nor is it clear she was poisoned or drugged. There are some clues she were in the kitchen per Vary’s discussion with Martha. Dany ultimately killed Vary’s because of the letter he wrote. Her lust for power and revenge likely drove her mad. Along with her messed up heritage.
@@georgeedwards3284 the scene where the girl from the kitchen reports to Varys that she is not eating. If you are going to infer she goes insane based on prior actions, I can do it with the food; she knew he was trying to poison her.
I do not recall any scene where Dany mentions being poisoned or as a reason to kill Vary’s.
*nervously* “best season evahhh!”
If the script was actually good, they wouldn't have to explain why she did it. We would have felt it.
I love the way she wiped out the city.
That is what ANCIENT war is all about.
No MERCY.
She gave them the chance to bend the knee and they didn't. Those bells are too late.
I actually LOVED the ending but the plot holes made it seemed RUSHED.
Emilia Clarke clearly says "to kill her" - which means Cersei. I doubt that in this interview they asked the actress who played Dany about burning down the entire city & killing innocent people - because obviously the answer would be different. Dany was not portrayed like that the entire show. She was always more or less "Neutral Good". What they wrote for her for the finale was totally out of her character. She literality goes "I am a villain now" for just like what... 1 or 2 hours of her live. Honestly, when I watched it, I expected to see Dany to un-mask at some point and see Arya Stark or other Faceless Men. That is how out-of the character that was.
And if they intended to make her to turn to the dark side at the end - there was no buildup for it, nor at least a clue. If she for example had a couple of scenes where she is for example hallucinating & talking to her dead Brother and he says: "burn them all" - it would at least make sense. She could have just went for the Red Keep and destroy it instead of the city full of people. There, it would at least make sense, since all Dany wants at this point is Cersei to be dead.
But the result is... just one of the main characters going ape-shit for no reason. That is like... if Jon Snow started to pillage the city for example. It makes no sense. It is almost as if the writers were making up plot on the fly as they were shooting lol.
I can accept Bran becoming king. But Dany going crazy ? Nope. There was no plot-reason for it. If the hell she went through did not broke her and made her mad - then nothing will. Not even Missandei's & Jorah's deaths.
Yet Dany did not go crazy or mad , she chose fear over love. It was rational and ruthless decision to solidify her power in westeros.
Good catch. This video even shows some evidence you were correct and some changes were made to make season 8 even less logical than it was already. The actress said to "kill her" likely meaning burn Cersei. Yet the version of season 8 that aired shows Cersei being ignored. It takes a long time for Drogon to even reach The Red Keep and once he does he flies off while most of it is still standing-that is ignoring Cersei. Strong evidence came out that the earlier plan for season 8 itself was for wildfire (not 1 dragon on its own) to wreck the city. So the actress is probably just repeating what she had been told and D and D changed things after she was interviewed.
A problem with last minute changes is that people often didn't give themselves time to build up to them because they are last minute. Thus creating the feeling things are rushed and don't make sense. They are and don't.
Despite what she did was wrong I always believed what she did was understandable.
Same. I have been kind of in the middle when it comes to her burning King's Landing. A part of me understands her grief and her rage and is happy that she's, I guess what you would call it, letting it go and getting her revenge. But, another part of me was horrified because there were innocent men, women, and children, and babies that had nothing to do with the war and were just looking for a safe place to hide and they rang the bells in surrender but, uet that is war. Innocent people die, and Dany isn't the first person to burn down a city and she probably won't be the last. A part of me sees it as justifiable yet a horrific act tyat shouldn't have happened
There you have it. From the Queen’s own mouth. Now please be seated and remain silent.
I think the saddest part about this whole clip is how deeply Emilia Clarke has had to delve to try and find SOME sensible motivation she can creatively cling to as an actress to be able to portray Daenerys. Whereas everyone else (Peter Dinklage, Kit Harrington, etc) have just completely given up on the storyline and just accepted how shitty and unrealistic it is. Poor Emilia is really still trying because she's been playing the character for so long. It's her that got screwed over.
“I don’t think grey worm can ever see Dany as the mad queen”
Cut to Drogon burning innocent civilians
Hilarious
Say what you want but that scene didn't even make sense. What were the reasons for Dany to turn mad? Because her friend was killed? Seriously? Dany went thru a lot of stuffs in the past and she got along with them but to turn mad and burn inocent people when the city already surrendered?
In the books, Dany thinks of Missandei as more than a friend. She thinks of her almost as her own child. Remember that when Mirri killed her unborn son, that's when Dany burned her on the pyre. I think in the books, this will essentially be what triggers Dany to burn the city. She's suffering from major PTSD :(.
I personally saw it as a foretelling especially Brans vision. Dragon 🐉 over Kings Landing. Mad King Burn them all. It came for circle. But I see how people can be upset 😡 so invested in this character. But yep she snapped alright!
I'm new to the fandom, but Daenerys (like we had seen her up til that point), would've 100% burnt the red keep and the defences. Maybe some soldiers too, but one thing she would've never did was to kill everyone in a town. Sure she put some dudes on crosses, but she could justify that by believing that they specifically had been the ones putting the children on crosses. Other than this she was always on the fence on killing her problems. She didn't murder the citizens of Meereen when some started a rebellion, but they tried to concentrate the killing on the smallest group possible and this was after many talks. People might defend this as a snap because of the death of her children and friends BUT I find this unlikely. Her revange has always concentrated on those who worked closely with the action and/or ordered the action. She wouldn't have killed children, she would've killed the fleet and Cersei (+ her closet allies, icl. Jamie most likely). Even when she burnt the Tully's whey got many chances to not get executed.
If she started burning the town she would've quickly stopped and regretted it, not continue for hours on end.
Agreed. This video even shows some evidence you were correct and some changes were made to make season 8 even less logical than it was already. The actress said to "kill her" likely meaning burn Cersei. Yet the version of season 8 that aired shows Cersei being ignored. It takes a long time for Drogon to even reach The Red Keep and once he does he flies off while most of it is still standing-that is ignoring Cersei. Also strong evidence came out that the earlier plan for season 8 itself was for wildfire (not 1 dragon on its own) to wreck the city. So the actress is probably just repeating what she had been told and D and D changed things after she was interviewed.
Me after a blackout like what did I just do
bullshit, the creators ruined the character. I love Emilia, she was an amazing Dany and I truly understand what she said about anger being what drove her to most of her moments of triumph but the moment and the way she snaped was completely inconsistent with all of the character's journey
Nice Skyrim soundtrack usage
Simultaneously the scene that destroyed the show and the scene I re-watch the most. Emilia Clarke was spellbinding
>game of thrones
>skyrim music
classic
'Snap'
The perfect explanation we needed from Dany
People desperately trying to defend the utter annihilation of what could have gone down as one of the greatest series in history and is now one of history's greatest disappointments.
haha yeah this show is nothing now, no one talks about it, no one's rewatching it, no one's naming their kids after dany anymore or buying the merch and bluerays..they took a dump on everything, it's like when OJ killed his wife or Cosby did what he did, they destroyed quite a few characters
I've seen some shows end badly but this felt intentional, like something writers would do if Hitler were in power and liked their show and tried to control how it was written to use it as propaganda against a people so the writers decided FK THAT, we're ending this show now!
Tundra is such an amazing track that it actually works even on GOT content, love it. Also, didn't Emilia literally find out about Daenerys killing the innocents at the first showing of it? She didn't actually know the context of the dragon attack until she saw it on screen?
Anyone else notice the Skyrim music in the background? I’ve noticed it in so much GoT clips. I wonder if they have a relation.
Daenarys becoming the mad queen is not out of left feild. Shes been brutal and evil (from a certain view) before, especially in the books. But the show need 2 more seasons to develop it. She had 2 episodes from being a great person to burn them all. That was the problem. I do not blame the cast and crew, i blame dnd
I can never see Dany as the mad Queen either grayworm same goes for many others which is why nobody accepts that ending
I like how the actors say the exact opposite of what they say at "personal" interviews 😂
Because they have to understand the character and not judge her this is the job And that brings good act
@@mdr8333 "Because they have to understand the character and not judge her this is the job." THIS!!
People keep calling it madness. Just because Aerys was the Mad King doesn’t mean that Daenerys is the Mad Queen. Everybody complaining that she shouldn’t have gone mad is missing the point that she’s not mad! It’s just people inventing fake reasons for bad criticism
yeah simply blaming it on her bloodline is far to simplistic imo
I don’t blame Daenerys what she was going through. She’s just in pain and grieving😢. If game of thrones has Jon snow sequel series of daenerys returning I would love that.
The Skyrim background music
How to destroy a character's arc 101
I mean in the books this is where it’s going for her character so I would t say it’s ruining an arc. The story telling was just very sloppy at the end
@@24pagedown Well in real life we slowly slip into madness and it's a very sad thing and we try to fight it and people close to us try to help us. But in this show it's like she's a brainwashed MK-Ultra assassin and the bell triggers her to kill. haha
@@wheelmanstan It definitely cam across that way hahaha
@1:30 but....you killed everyone but her
i feel so bad for bae she didn’t even deserve the ending fr
There's only so much shit writing I can take
Kit Haring 🤣 that killed me.
I didn’t see it coming either bro.
I suppose it wouldn't be that great for their careers to just be honest and say the entire last season completely sucked.
@walktheworld.....LOL!!
We're just going to ignore Tundra from Skyrim in the background? Okay..
Danearys was stronger than this. It didn't make sense.
yeah, I'm all down for her burning the city but I needed more reasons for her to do so
Just didn't make a whole lot of sense for her to snap after the battle was won....
If you didn't see Dany's turn coming, you simply didn't pay attention during the entire series. So much foreshadowing predicted this. I liked season 8. All of it, except Varys' death.
I call bs. Foreshadowing is not as good as logical reasoning and the logical reasoning said the opposite. Plus what was foreshadowed on multiple issues was different from what season 8 provided. Going to show the people writing season 8 couldn't care less about what they actually foreshadowed.
I rewatched game of theones and you can see it coming she was on the edge of going mad.
Daenerys offered Cersei a ceasefire but got Missandei, her only best friend and sister, literally beheaded in front of her hours before this!!! She kept holding back for years and years and opt for diplomacy, she lost her two dragons, the Tyrells, the Sands, the good Greyjoys, and most of her tribe, the Dothrakis, and she wasn't allowed to snap? Rob Stark declared war after Ned executed! Arya massacred the Freys! Cersei blew up the Sept. Jaime killed Dany's father and Olenna. Jon was stabbed to death, and yet he did the same to his Queen!?!? I hate the Starks. I hate that Manipulative Robot Tree. I even hate Varys. I hate Tyrion too!
The thing is that Dany's madness came out from pretty much nowhere. Yes she went through some horrible stuff, but she literally said 2 episodes earlier that she didn't want to be the queen of ashes. Massacering a bunch of innocent women and children because the most evil women in Kings Landing killed her friend just doesn't feel like her. They literally surrendered. Robb declaring war is not the same thing as roasting innocent children alive. None of the Freys Arya killed were innocent. Jamie killed Dany's father because he wanted to do the exact same thing Dany did, and he "killed" Olenna on Cersei's orders. We all knew Cersei was evil to the core, plus she had her own motivations for blowing up the sept. Cersei didn't kill nearly as many as Dany did tho. D&D turned Daenerys Targaryen into a merciless tyrant in a single episode. It deserved a better build-up. She deserved better writing.
I mean it would would have been fine if she didn't say"i WiLl NoT ruLE a kingdom oF Ash" for 3 sessions
Every time I see what a wonderful, simply amazing job the cast, CGI team and Ramin have done, I can’t not to feel a very strong frustration. Because even with ALL THESE PEOPLE Benioff and Weiss managed to ruin the greatest show of the decade. If only they were not so immature it could have been cultural landmark of my generation. Inexcusable. I really wish they spend their days in infamy and nothing else as the payment for their utter disregard of the audience, cast and the creator of that universe.
Hahaha! And they are the immature ones
I actually really liked her story. From beginning to the end. She set out to break the wheel, and she did exactly that. Life doesn't go the way we want. In this story, it never has. For her, it got to the point where alls fair in love and in war... especially with grief and that need for justic and vengeance. They can never make me hate her.
So beautiful TV show... So beautiful targaryen history
Is that Skyrim music in the background?
Dany burning Kings Landing makes sense but the show for seasons 7 and 8 sucked. They skipped 3 seasons worth of material in the end of Storm, half of Feast and 3/4's of Dance. If D&D did that maybe Martin could have finished book 6 and gave us 2 or 3 seasons on book 6 alone
If you pay attention to this video it actually provides a bit of evidence that D and D changed what happened in season 8. The actress who played Daenerys (Emilia Clarke) said season 8 Dany was flying off to kill "her". That would be Cersei-which makes sense because Cersei lied to Dany in person and had her friend killed in front of her. So earlier plans had Daenerys not wrecking the city in general but going directly for Cersei. This is different from the version of season 8 that aired because in it Cersei is ignored. Rewatch the city burning nonsense scene very carefully and you may notice it takes a long time for Drogon to even reach the Red Keep and once he finally does he flies off again with most of it still standing. That is not trying to kill Cersei.
FYI strong evidence has come out that the earlier plans for season 8 had wildfire wrecking the city-not 1 dragon which had just near singlehandedly won 2 battles (land and sea) and had yet to have a nap or lunch break. Now if the wildfire-which had been placed throughout the city with the point of being able to destroy King's Landing-had been set off accidentally by either the actual battle or trying to actually get Cersei in the Red Keep (both of which could involve dragonfire) then this would be D and D blowing an actual chance to generate some tragedy without resorting to characters assassination.
Throughout the series Dany was all about liberating and defending the innocent rather than burning them and there was no foreshadowing whatsoever for her burning of King's Landing to make sense.Therefore this scene where Dany goes on a murdering rampage may be the most nonsensical and insulting scene in sci-fi/fantasy TV history.
she loved gore and killing from the get-go.
@@SaltyMinorcan She never loved murdering innocent people.
This was one of the most powerful scenes in the show. Well done, no hate from me on this episode.
"I guess I didn't see, particularly, that Dany would just . . . fire-bomb the city." Kit Harington is so real for this. 😂
On a side note but can we recognize that a north man would rather die then stop raping a women like I know the theme was supposed to be war is bad but holy shit that scene was cringe to me
They totally foreshadowed this moment: "A targaryen alone in the world is a terrible thing"
These are the sad and twisted realities we live in difficult though it may be for most people to accept in a fantasy tv show.
Tyrion and Varys have to come to the realization that in all their efforts to build the perfect rulership, they brought about the very villainy they desperately spent their lives trying to prevent.
And Littlefinger will have created a good and wise queen in da norf.