I would love to see a prequel about Robert's rebellion. Being able to see Robert, Ned, Raegar, Arthur Dane, Jaime, and Barriston all in their prime would be cool AF.
What can that show offer us besides the fanservice of seeing these characters? We already know everything that happens, so what can that show really add?
@@adamm784 In HotD, we know that their descendants in 200 years will get overthrown. Unless you're already read the books or the wiki on all these characters, you don't know what will happen in HotD.
One quick note, Robert's Rebellion did not begin because of Lyanna's disappearance. That contributed to it, but the war really began when Arys demanded Jon Arryn execute Robert and Ned on the spot, after Arys had already killed Brandon Stark and his father. When the order came, Arryn refused and they raised their banners and went to war.
You could actually justify if it based on Robert's POV. For him, it started there, and really, demanding Jon Arryn's head and the Stark's dying in King's Landing was all a direct result of Lyanna getting "kidnapped". If this was narrated by some Maester I would agree with you, but it really does feel like it's Robert telling his story.
If you look at the prelude to the rebellion, you see a very clear pattern of alliances forming. So Dorne marries house Targaryen. Dorne also seeks to marry house Lannister. House stark arranges Brandon to marry Catelyn. House Arryn wards Rob and Ned. House stark/Baratheon lines up Lyanna to Robert. So we see Stark, Tully, Arryn and Baratheon in a clear alliance bloc. Even more, at the outset of war Lysa very quickly is married off to Jon Arryn. Massive 4 way alliance of lord paramounts/kingdoms. Who is left? Greyjoy’s. No interest in the iron throne. Dorne. Allied to house Targaryen. Tyrell/Reach, allied to nobody. Honours call to war but doesn’t really go hard for house Targaryen. House Lannister. No alliance nominated.. It’s speculated the 4 way alliance was positioning themselves either to be a defensive bloc, or to depose the king.
@@elyastoohey6621 Sure, it's likely there was some deep planning going on for whatever purpose and these marriage pacts preceding the atrocities in King's Landing were not just coincidences. 100%. It's doubtful however that Robert really understood that though, and again, from his POV, all of this started with Lyanna.
But they were holding off because they thought rhagar would be a better king and was waiting for his ascension but they when lyanna disappeared it was the straw that broke the camel's back
@@spiritwolf5539 Ehhh, maybe. Rickard Karstark was not Ned. Almost certainly more like Brandon. Hoster was a powerful man who put his family first (Why Cat is such a C*nt to everyone in the name of her family). Jon was a very intelligent political man. Robert was a man largely raised by Jon (weird for a lord paramount, as Robert was L.P from a young age after his parents drowned). It should have been Stannis who was fostered. They may have considered Rhaegar, but they were likely going to go with Robert if Rhaegar was not compliant to their wishes (Not just about aerys but they would have pushed leverage over the crown). Robert was the backup. Robert could be manipulated, and was also quite a hero to the people. You have to understand, whilst House Targayrn had lost a lot of prestige, just how much of an upset it was for house Targaryen to lose all power. Up until this point, the only real challenge House Targaryen faced was from other Targaryens/Blackfyres. There were a few minor rebellions, and the Targaryens had to use marriages after they lost their dragons to keep things balanced. SO it has to be assumed RObert's rebellion was in part planned. Aerys sped it up, but it was being set up regardless.
I feel like GRRM wrote it so it's kinda difficult to dislike any of the Baratheons. Robert is just a fucking CHAD, Stannis is the Mannis, Renly's a cool guy, Gendry's cool too
@@ChrisVillagomez Yeah, I think the idea is that he wanted the reader to feel like theirs was the house most befit to rule a kingdom due to the personalities of their men.
@@holypaladin4657 Why don't you like Renly? Just wondering honestly, I can see disliking him from the "he didn't help Ned Stark" and "he didn't have a right to the Iron Throne" but i still think he was a decent guy
Tommen could have been a good king, especially with Kevan Lannister as hand since he was incredibly smart and would fix Joffrey’s fuck ups. Stannis (book Stannis mainly) would have been a great king too. But Stan died in the show and is still up north in the books. Kev is dead in the books and was blown up in the show so Tommen was fucked no matter what. TLDR: long live Bobby B.
The DVD extra of Robert talking about the Baratheon history includes further proof of D & D's idiocy. Robert's grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, making Robert and his brothers the great-grandsons of King Aegon the 5th. Hardly "just a drop" of Targaryen blood from ancient ancestors, it's direct lineage 🙄
@@solin.victus But, they were still the next family to be in the throne line when all the Targaryen were wipeout. They were the one with the most direct line than the other houses.
@@solin.victus The Lannisters, though, still trace their lineage back to Lann the Clever, and it's been explicitly stated that they do so through the female line.
You can say its more Robert's arrogance and hatred for the house. I could 100% see him throw away this direct line due to how much hes come to hate the Targaryens.
It is kind of cool, it gives the impression that the world he created is indeed bigger than him. He weaves so many stories in his story that is makes it sound like History.
I'm not a native English speaker, so when I talk about the Baratheons with my friends, I don't pronounce it like the show does, so hearing George pronouncing it like this is certainly a relief.
@@TheAurelianProject yea same it seems like he pronounces everything so different to the show. The way he says Dothraki peeves me off but then again that’s how it’s meant to be said hahah
@@noahmay7708 I mean he was a paranoid lunatic who basically saw enemies in every shadows. I’m not defending him of course, but with Varys whispering in his ear he probably thought he didn’t have a choice. Even if said choice cost him his throne, his son, and his grandchildren.
I mean Arryn’s rebellion doesn’t quite have a ring to it and Robert became king, not Jon Arryn. Technically speaking both of them rebelled so there’s nothing technically incorrect with calling it Robert’s Rebellion even though Arryn was the first to call banners.
History is written by the winners in preference not only to the versions of the losers but also of the runners-up. To put it simply, it's Robert's rebellion because he named it so when he sat on the throne.
The sad thing was Robert had this perfect innocent image of Lyanna in his head. He never knew the real Lyanna and he was so blind to see that she loved Rhaegar. Many people noticed how she looked at Rhaegar when he gave her the flower crown but Robert was blind. Instead of seeing the reality of the situation- he took offense. Im not sure if he deliberately didnt want to believe that Lyanna was infatuated with Rhaegar or he was that ignorant of the whole situation. I think its the latter one. Robert, despite winning his war, is one of the saddest characters in the books. There was nobody there to tell him the truth- that Lianna never loved him. Ned Stark chose Jon Snow over Robert. Ned knew Lyanna didnt love Robert. If Robert knew the truth, maybe he would have had some peace and could have given Cercei a chance. I love how all of these people had their hard choices to make and how every single one of them broke their principles.
@@kungfufemafam9216 Or maybe men are the problem for not controlling ourselves? Or maybe this is just a human problem, and you're a sexist looking for affirmation of his weird beliefs? Yeah, very sure it's the 2nd one.
@@Mikeg0626 lyana would've been worse honestly. She was a spoiled , wild woman. Look at rhaenyra in house of the dragon. That's literally the image i have for lyanna. Bobby B was indeed in love with the image of lyanna and never saw her for what she trully was. I feel more sad for him then i feel for her.
Ser Justin Massey asks: „When will we leave this god-forsaken lighthouse and leave for Winterfell, your Grace?“.....to which Stannis deigns to answer: When Winds of Winter finally comes out, but I never asked for this, no more than I asked to be king. Yet dare I disregard George RR Martin? We should not tempt fate. Yet we must ... we must do our duty, no? Great or small, we must do our duty.
Rogar Baratheon had a daughter with Alyssa Velaryon the widow of Aenys I. Targaryen. The Daughter which married Aemon Targaryen the first son of Jaehaerys I.
And many years after that, king Aegon V marry his daughter with the son and heir of Lord Lyonel Baratheon, and from that marriage came the claim of Robert for the Iron Throne, yes
@@josesoria2072 if you can even call it a claim. It is from a female grandma. Really him taking the throne was little more than usurping it, with a very very feeble claim, and some blood of the first Baratheon who was likely a bastard anyway.
I LOVE House Baratheon; they're probably my 2nd favorite family after House Mormont. I also love all of Robert's actual children; particularly Mya Stone. Edric demanding Davos explain why he's standing where Edric was running always makes me chuckle. It's such a Robert thing to say. I hope GRRM does something interesting with them.
>Tour around Westeros winning battles with big lad Ned Stark. >Bed countless women including BESSIE. >Bludgeon the heir to the throne to death with a hammer. >Become king because your grandma was Targaryen or something. >Spend 15 years drinking and producing illegitimate children. >Kill every member of House Greyjoy who isn’t a child, schizophrenic or completely incompetent. >Die drunk on wine while trying to slay a boar. The absolute biggest Chad in any fictional story.
King Robert was so badass the Night King waited until he was dead to march in Westeroes. A united kingdom under King Robert against the Night King would have been a glorious fight.
Yeah. And I read about the book of Ataturk's life. And I notice, Robert Baretheon is very similar to Atatürk. Hitler had waited for Atatürk to die in order to attack Europe. Because he knew that Atatürk would gather all the Balkan countries, make an alliance with Russia and England, and end the war with his military and courage before it starts. He saw the danger of Hitler and Mussolini in 1933 and had the neighboring states sign the "Balkan Pact" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Pact Atatürk had warned General McArtur about Hitler in 1932. Just like Robert warned Ned and Cercei about Danerys and the Dothraki. Just like Atatürk, Robert was a charismatic, warlike, witty, romantic, depressive, drinking-loving leader of the people who got bored of being an administrator and giving orders. Atatürk also fought, started a rebellion and won against the imperialist states and the Ottoman Empire that occupied his country. Both characters are very similar. Atatürk have İsmet İnönü, Robert have Ned Stark. :) Ataturk's wife Ms.Latife's character just like Cercie. Atatürk actually love Ms. Fikriye. But Fikriye was dead. Etc... By the way, the Nazi's only hesitated to attack Turkey. They could not occupy. Because of the brave and self-confident new Republic of Turkey under the influence of Atatürk. Ataturk hated Hitler, the Nazis and Mussolini, but Hitler and Mussolini respected him.
@@fragbomb @stefthorman Does one have to be Turkish in order to know Atatürk? You should read; "King of the Mountain" by Arnold M. Ludwig and "The Workshop and the World: What Ten Thinkers Can Teach Us About Science and Authority" by Robert P. Crease ;)
He didn't though. Cersei expected Robert to forget Lyanna the moment he saw her, and became spiteful when that didn't happen. Robert tried finding some common ground but Cersei refused each time
I think many of Stannis’s problems came from leaving King’s Landing after Ned was named Hand. 1.If Stannis had been around, Renly would never have dared to usurp his place. 2.If he had been around to work with Ned, the truth about Cersei’s children would have come to light far earlier. 3.If he had stayed, the Baratheons would have had enough troops to crush the Lannister coup d’état. In fact, neither the coup nor the murder of Robert would even have happened. It’s easy to be wise with hindsight, of course. But surely a shrewd army leader like Stannis ought to have foreseen trouble from the Lannisters if he reduced Baratheon numbers by leaving. OK, so he was annoyed with Robert, jealous of Ned, + spooked by Arryn’s death _ and the info Jon Arryn left behind. But at the very least _ even if he didn’t want to go into details, he should have left a warning to Ned to fill King’s Landing with Starks and loyal troops. FFS, Stannis even knew Janos Slynt was untrustworthy _ and corrupt.
Was this mentioned or talked about at all in the books? What was Robert’s reaction to this? Did Ned ask “where is your brother why did he leave?” anything?
No. Robert didn't give a shit what Stannis was doing. When Robert goes to the north Stannis leave the small council and go to Dragonstone with the Royal Fleet (He was Robert Admirall). But Ned send ravens to Dragobstone calling Stannis, but was never answered
I love the history and lore. Feels like this all happened in real life and grrm just narrates it for us. Its addictive to me to read as much as possible and gather all the information I can. I honestly think I could teach a class on it by now lol. If I applied myself to a real line of work as I have to this I would be a millionaire.
I know it's probably just cause the show doesn't mention it, but I find it funny how Bobby B doesn't seem aware that his grandmother was a Targaryen princess. He seems to think his claim comes from Orys, who lived three centuries ago, rather than his grandmother who died, at earliest, 20 years before him. Probably just a consistency error or maybe I'm not listening to him right.
Probably something to do with how women inherit in most of Westerosi society, not to mention I'm not sure how distant she was from the king - Targaryens had a large extended (and interwoven...) family, but they were all princes and princesses (or kings and queens).
@@andromidius Grandma Rhaelle was the daughter of Aegon V, who died three yeas prior to Robert. We don't know when Rhaelle herself died, but she'd literally have been the aunt of Aerys, making her pretty close kin to the immediate royal family, so you'd think Robert might cop this. Probably just an oversight, and it's definitely not as cool as the story of Orys Baratheon.
Robert does not strike me as someone who cares to think about being related to a family he swore everlasting hatred against. Orys is a badass warrior who he is probably the spitting image of, and right of conquest pretty much was his claim. Everyone just wanted Aerys out, and Bobby B had the North, Vale, Riverlands, and Stormlands behind him. Jon or Ned could have taken the throne, but they were both sticklers for claims. The justifications come after the rebellion most of the time
@@andromidius Westeros seems to be male preference primogeniture, meaning eldest sons and their their descendants in order of seniority inherit, meaning if their is no "trueborn" heir in the males lines inheritance goes through the female line, barring of course incidences where kings choose to alter the inheritance rules through royal decree. Given how fond the Targaryens were of incest it's not surprising that if he killed all the targaryans (assuming Danny and Viscerys hadn't escaped) that he would actually have the best claim to the throne given how rarely the Targaryens wed outside the family.
I love how his version of Baratheon history is just a little bit skewed toward his biases; he says they raised their banners when Lyanna was abducted but he couldn't have done shit without Jon Arryn. And Jon only called his banners because the Mad King demanded the heads of Robert and Ned because their fathers had pissed him off, but they were under his protection and honour couldn't allow that sooo..... anyways, I love this
Robert baratheon is the guy who slayed the dragon and didn't know what to do afterwards. you can tell he misses the old days when he was fighting targaryens in open rebellion you can tell he's in a different world when he tells his stories about how he defeated this and that.
Hearing how the actors define their characters, and knowing that is quite literally how George presented them in the books. There is when I realise they r good actors
Young Robert Baratheon is like King Edward the 4th, King Robert Baratheon is like king Henry the 8th. Both are ladies man and handsome, many mistresses and many illegitimate kids
Not having the actor of Stannis talking about his character really made me 100% sure that it’s true he didn’t understand the plot at all but continued doing the show anyway 😂😂😂
I think it’s hilarious that the Baratheon’s are my favorite house in the franchise but the while I find them interesting characters I don’t really like the main three Baratheon’s in the series.( Robert, Stannis,Renly.)
I think Robert knew that Lyanna was infatuated with Rhaegar and never him. He just denied it so hard that he built rage and Destroyed The Targaryens. I think he just couldn't handle that rejection , despite Robert Himself being Any girls Dream , 6'6 tall , Muscled, strong , One of the best warriors, Charismatic etc.
The Targaryens were destroyed because the Mad King provoked Jon Arryn into rebellion by sentencing Robert and Ned to death for no reason after horribly executing Ned's father and brother and a bunch of other nobles. I'm tired of people pretendig that Robert randomly declared war out of nowhere.
@@gooby214 Maybe it's because you wanted to get pissed off you wrote the comment. Nothing was mentioned about Robert declaring war randomly in that. It just said Robert told himself That She was Forced so much, so that his Vow to kill Rhaegar and Targaryens was more legit. It should've actually been called Jon Arryn's or Stark Rebellion to be honest coz Of what Happened to The Starks or How Job was the one who Rallied everything together. But Robert became the Main dude coz of his battle supremacy.
The drop of blood from Orys is irrelevant. Robert’s grandmother, Rhaelle, is where the Maesters hang their hat. She’s the most recent Targaryen princess to marry outside the family, which gives the Baratheons the strongest claim. Really though, this is all rationalization after the fact, since as the video rightfully points out, Robert won his crown through conquest, Targaryen blood or no.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if losing Lyanna was the final nail in Robert's coffin in terms of personality. After that left married to a woman from a house he despises who is selfish and conniving to a fault in her own right a trait he was well aware of.
I would cry with joy if there was a series just on Roberts rebellion and we got to see more of these characters we love but younger and a better look at everything that happened! 😨😁
As much as I like dragons, there’s something so satisfying about just a man, his warhammer, and a quest for vengeance with loyal men behind him destroying a pompous House of special snowflakes. Yeah yeah targaryen heritage or whatever, but he saw himself as a Baratheon first and foremost.
The thing that is dumb about the series end to me is....when you think about the RIGHTFUL succession....GENDRY should have been king even before the Mother Of Dragons. That is why they had all King Roberts bastards killed so none of them had claim to the throne. At the end they should have recognized this and crowned Gendry King since he was still alive. Would have been WAAAAAY better than Bran smh.
Chad Bobby B is the most based king in Westerosi history. Attended only 3 small council meetings, he didn't give a fuck.
Gigachad Bobby B
Bobby b
"START THE DAMN JOUST BEFORE I PISS MYSELF"
- The great Bobby B
He and Aegon IV didn't give a fuck lmao
I love Bobby B!
And only one war that ended quickly
Nice to hear the actors as themselves-then hear Mark Addy narrate in full Bobby B mode.
Bobby B 😂
OURS IS THE FURY
"GODS I WAS STRONG THEN"
-The great Bobby B
I love how he narrates as Bobby B, you can hear his anger and hatred when he's talking about Lyanna's kidnapping and the Rebellion.
@@targaryen7029 yes. He is freaking perfect. Like many of the GoT series castings.
I would love to see a prequel about Robert's rebellion. Being able to see Robert, Ned, Raegar, Arthur Dane, Jaime, and Barriston all in their prime would be cool AF.
George RR Martin gets the red ass when people ask him about that. However, I completely agree with you.
What can that show offer us besides the fanservice of seeing these characters? We already know everything that happens, so what can that show really add?
@@calvin8464 lol Same reason why they did House of The Dragon. Prequels...we already know how it ends
@@adamm784 In HotD, we know that their descendants in 200 years will get overthrown. Unless you're already read the books or the wiki on all these characters, you don't know what will happen in HotD.
@@calvin8464 There's literally an episode in GoT that Joffrey tells to Margaery what happens to Rhaenyra XD
One quick note, Robert's Rebellion did not begin because of Lyanna's disappearance. That contributed to it, but the war really began when Arys demanded Jon Arryn execute Robert and Ned on the spot, after Arys had already killed Brandon Stark and his father. When the order came, Arryn refused and they raised their banners and went to war.
You could actually justify if it based on Robert's POV. For him, it started there, and really, demanding Jon Arryn's head and the Stark's dying in King's Landing was all a direct result of Lyanna getting "kidnapped". If this was narrated by some Maester I would agree with you, but it really does feel like it's Robert telling his story.
If you look at the prelude to the rebellion, you see a very clear pattern of alliances forming.
So Dorne marries house Targaryen.
Dorne also seeks to marry house Lannister.
House stark arranges Brandon to marry Catelyn.
House Arryn wards Rob and Ned.
House stark/Baratheon lines up Lyanna to Robert.
So we see Stark, Tully, Arryn and Baratheon in a clear alliance bloc.
Even more, at the outset of war Lysa very quickly is married off to Jon Arryn.
Massive 4 way alliance of lord paramounts/kingdoms.
Who is left?
Greyjoy’s. No interest in the iron throne.
Dorne. Allied to house Targaryen.
Tyrell/Reach, allied to nobody. Honours call to war but doesn’t really go hard for house Targaryen.
House Lannister. No alliance nominated..
It’s speculated the 4 way alliance was positioning themselves either to be a defensive bloc, or to depose the king.
@@elyastoohey6621 Sure, it's likely there was some deep planning going on for whatever purpose and these marriage pacts preceding the atrocities in King's Landing were not just coincidences. 100%. It's doubtful however that Robert really understood that though, and again, from his POV, all of this started with Lyanna.
But they were holding off because they thought rhagar would be a better king and was waiting for his ascension but they when lyanna disappeared it was the straw that broke the camel's back
@@spiritwolf5539 Ehhh, maybe. Rickard Karstark was not Ned. Almost certainly more like Brandon. Hoster was a powerful man who put his family first (Why Cat is such a C*nt to everyone in the name of her family). Jon was a very intelligent political man.
Robert was a man largely raised by Jon (weird for a lord paramount, as Robert was L.P from a young age after his parents drowned). It should have been Stannis who was fostered.
They may have considered Rhaegar, but they were likely going to go with Robert if Rhaegar was not compliant to their wishes (Not just about aerys but they would have pushed leverage over the crown). Robert was the backup. Robert could be manipulated, and was also quite a hero to the people.
You have to understand, whilst House Targayrn had lost a lot of prestige, just how much of an upset it was for house Targaryen to lose all power. Up until this point, the only real challenge House Targaryen faced was from other Targaryens/Blackfyres. There were a few minor rebellions, and the Targaryens had to use marriages after they lost their dragons to keep things balanced.
SO it has to be assumed RObert's rebellion was in part planned. Aerys sped it up, but it was being set up regardless.
Always been a bit of a Robert fanboy. Mark Addy plays him brilliantly.
yeah you couled really see the book character in addys performance.
I feel like GRRM wrote it so it's kinda difficult to dislike any of the Baratheons. Robert is just a fucking CHAD, Stannis is the Mannis, Renly's a cool guy, Gendry's cool too
@@ChrisVillagomez Yeah, I think the idea is that he wanted the reader to feel like theirs was the house most befit to rule a kingdom due to the personalities of their men.
@@ChrisVillagomez
I despise Renly but I agree that all of the other Baratheons even including Robert’s bastard kids seemed cool at the very least.
@@holypaladin4657 Why don't you like Renly? Just wondering honestly, I can see disliking him from the "he didn't help Ned Stark" and "he didn't have a right to the Iron Throne" but i still think he was a decent guy
Love seeing Jack Gleeson acting so normal, it really shows you how good of an actor he is
honestly. i cant belive people are actually so dumb they thought it was real
@@RuinnTheGreat They're a lot of mentally ill people out there. Sending an actor death threats is hilarious display of stupidity
@@RuinnTheGreat These guys are the reason why fandoms have such a bad reputation nowadays.
Bobby B was not fit for a king yet he was the best king we had in the whole series
True dat
Tommen could have been a good king, especially with Kevan Lannister as hand since he was incredibly smart and would fix Joffrey’s fuck ups. Stannis (book Stannis mainly) would have been a great king too. But Stan died in the show and is still up north in the books. Kev is dead in the books and was blown up in the show so Tommen was fucked no matter what. TLDR: long live Bobby B.
that;s because he wasnt the one trully rulling. It was jon arryn.
@@aegonthedragon7303 tommen was to weak, he wasn't king because of it.
Unless you count all the kings, not just the KL Kings. If that's the case, King Rob was the best, or the King beyond the wall.
Love the music.
Kyne’s Peace - Jeremy Soule
From Skyrim
Really works when story telling, especially in fantasy.
Came to say this. I love the skyrim soundtrack so much
I thought I recognised it!
Thought I was going insane wondering “is that Skyrim music???”
Also, Robert' grandmother was Rhaella Targaryen, a daughter of Aegon V
Either way, Robert is a Targaryen
And That idiot wanted to kill Targaryens
Egg' s daughter, nice.
Rhaelle*
@@waseemchoudhry4465 But he isn't
The DVD extra of Robert talking about the Baratheon history includes further proof of D & D's idiocy. Robert's grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, making Robert and his brothers the great-grandsons of King Aegon the 5th. Hardly "just a drop" of Targaryen blood from ancient ancestors, it's direct lineage 🙄
I think they think of the paternal line of blood, after all, patriarchy rules in Westeros.
It's very accurate to a medieval telling of history.
@@solin.victus But, they were still the next family to be in the throne line when all the Targaryen were wipeout. They were the one with the most direct line than the other houses.
@@solin.victus The Lannisters, though, still trace their lineage back to Lann the Clever, and it's been explicitly stated that they do so through the female line.
You can say its more Robert's arrogance and hatred for the house. I could 100% see him throw away this direct line due to how much hes come to hate the Targaryens.
George Martin talks about Game Of Thrones like he's answering a history test he didn't study enough for.
It is kind of cool, it gives the impression that the world he created is indeed bigger than him. He weaves so many stories in his story that is makes it sound like History.
Robert Baratheon is a fvcking legend 🍸
God's he was strong then
He was the best king in the show
@@TheAurelianProject Unironically yes
"BOW BEFORE YOUR KING! BOW, YA SHITS!"
-The great Bobby B
True he is. I love Bobby B!
Having Kyne’s peace in the background made this so much better.
No soundbyte from Stannis the Mannis? The MAN from the House of Baratheon. The One True King.
It's a behind the scenes from season 1, we don't see Stannis in season 1
There's a fewer joke in here somewhere
Well technically at this point Robert was the one true king, unless you consider Viserys or even Jon Snow.
*bends the knee* The only true king of Westeros.
Never sat on the throne tho
"Joffery is a pretty mean guy". Little did he know.
Yeah what an understatement 😂
True, but he's a teddy bear compared to Ramsey Snow/Bolton.
@@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 I think if Joffery wouldn't been killed so early in his life he would be an equal in cruelty.
@@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 maybe when it comes to striking fear but as far as sadisticness, it's debatable, they were both absolute monsters.
Someone should tell George he’s pronouncing Baratheon incorrectly
dude, he is telling us that we are pronouncing it wrong.
@@77777Spooky I believe he was making a joke
I know he’s the creator but I still like the way it’s said in the show better
I'm not a native English speaker, so when I talk about the Baratheons with my friends, I don't pronounce it like the show does, so hearing George pronouncing it like this is certainly a relief.
@@TheAurelianProject yea same it seems like he pronounces everything so different to the show. The way he says Dothraki peeves me off but then again that’s how it’s meant to be said hahah
A yes they kinda forgot Robert did not rebel, Jon Arryn did, after Aerys demanded Ned's and Robert's head.
Man Aerys kinda pulled a Hitler there. Declaring war on people he didn't have to.
@@noahmay7708 I mean he was a paranoid lunatic who basically saw enemies in every shadows. I’m not defending him of course, but with Varys whispering in his ear he probably thought he didn’t have a choice. Even if said choice cost him his throne, his son, and his grandchildren.
I mean Arryn’s rebellion doesn’t quite have a ring to it and Robert became king, not Jon Arryn. Technically speaking both of them rebelled so there’s nothing technically incorrect with calling it Robert’s Rebellion even though Arryn was the first to call banners.
Robert rebelled too lol He went along with Jon Arryn, so he rebelled.
History is written by the winners in preference not only to the versions of the losers but also of the runners-up. To put it simply, it's Robert's rebellion because he named it so when he sat on the throne.
The sad thing was Robert had this perfect innocent image of Lyanna in his head. He never knew the real Lyanna and he was so blind to see that she loved Rhaegar. Many people noticed how she looked at Rhaegar when he gave her the flower crown but Robert was blind. Instead of seeing the reality of the situation- he took offense. Im not sure if he deliberately didnt want to believe that Lyanna was infatuated with Rhaegar or he was that ignorant of the whole situation. I think its the latter one.
Robert, despite winning his war, is one of the saddest characters in the books. There was nobody there to tell him the truth- that Lianna never loved him. Ned Stark chose Jon Snow over Robert. Ned knew Lyanna didnt love Robert. If Robert knew the truth, maybe he would have had some peace and could have given Cercei a chance.
I love how all of these people had their hard choices to make and how every single one of them broke their principles.
Lyanna could have been as bad as cersei
You described over 50%of all man relationships of all time. So women are the problem
@@kungfufemafam9216 Or maybe men are the problem for not controlling ourselves? Or maybe this is just a human problem, and you're a sexist looking for affirmation of his weird beliefs?
Yeah, very sure it's the 2nd one.
@@kungfufemafam9216 Elaborate
@@Mikeg0626 lyana would've been worse honestly. She was a spoiled , wild woman. Look at rhaenyra in house of the dragon. That's literally the image i have for lyanna. Bobby B was indeed in love with the image of lyanna and never saw her for what she trully was. I feel more sad for him then i feel for her.
Should have added Robert's grandmother is a targaryen
That was in the video...
Ser Justin Massey asks: „When will we leave this god-forsaken lighthouse and leave for Winterfell, your Grace?“.....to which Stannis deigns to answer: When Winds of Winter finally comes out, but I never asked for this, no more than I asked to be king. Yet dare I disregard George RR Martin? We should not tempt fate. Yet we must ... we must do our duty, no? Great or small, we must do our duty.
Iol
Oh, stannis🤣
This show is almost 12 years old. Crazy to think but you don't realize it till seeing the behind the scenes footage
4:15 Stories and Lore kinda forgot that Rhaelle Targaryen, sister of Jaehaerys II was Robert´s grandmother.
Dan and Dave kinda forgot about lore
D&D kinda forgot Jaehaerys II (they say "because will be confusing")
Rogar Baratheon had a daughter with Alyssa Velaryon the widow of Aenys I. Targaryen.
The Daughter which married Aemon Targaryen the first son of Jaehaerys I.
And many years after that, king Aegon V marry his daughter with the son and heir of Lord Lyonel Baratheon, and from that marriage came the claim of Robert for the Iron Throne, yes
@@josesoria2072 if you can even call it a claim. It is from a female grandma. Really him taking the throne was little more than usurping it, with a very very feeble claim, and some blood of the first Baratheon who was likely a bastard anyway.
I LOVE House Baratheon; they're probably my 2nd favorite family after House Mormont. I also love all of Robert's actual children; particularly Mya Stone. Edric demanding Davos explain why he's standing where Edric was running always makes me chuckle. It's such a Robert thing to say. I hope GRRM does something interesting with them.
I adore House Mormont.
@@cashcurtis You can't beat them.
Hey I’m actually reading a storm of swords currently, I just got to the Davos and Edric Storm meeting
@@DDLLDDLLDDLL i wish it was my 1st time reading the series again lol
@@systemofafox6487 idk I’m kind of having a hard time reading
The Skyrim ambience music in the background makes this feel more nostalgic than it already is
Robert Baratheon actor nailed the essence of a ruthless fighter in his voice
I freaking love the actor of Robert, his voice is so King like
>Tour around Westeros winning battles with big lad Ned Stark.
>Bed countless women including BESSIE.
>Bludgeon the heir to the throne to death with a hammer.
>Become king because your grandma was Targaryen or something.
>Spend 15 years drinking and producing illegitimate children.
>Kill every member of House Greyjoy who isn’t a child, schizophrenic or completely incompetent.
>Die drunk on wine while trying to slay a boar.
The absolute biggest Chad in any fictional story.
We could see how happy GRRM was in the beginning of the series telling people about his world with joyness
My favorite house by far... Ours is the Fury!
Beneath the gold the bitter steel
@@lordofcastamere9376 it’s Targaryen/Blackfyre words. Golden Company created by Targaryen bastard.
Fire and blood
@@lordofcastamere9376 literally never held the Iron throne and Lost everytime and booby b just hammered his way to the iron throne
@@thetalesofelbek7042 Agora Rivers Aka bittersteel son Aegon the lV unworthy
All hail Stannis the Godamn Mannis
The only one I want to bent my knee too
@@faisalkamal4319pause
Roberts like that one drunk uncle everyone has, Love that guy
King Robert was so badass the Night King waited until he was dead to march in Westeroes. A united kingdom under King Robert against the Night King would have been a glorious fight.
Yeah. And I read about the book of Ataturk's life. And I notice, Robert Baretheon is very similar to Atatürk. Hitler had waited for Atatürk to die in order to attack Europe. Because he knew that Atatürk would gather all the Balkan countries, make an alliance with Russia and England, and end the war with his military and courage before it starts.
He saw the danger of Hitler and Mussolini in 1933 and had the neighboring states sign the "Balkan Pact" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Pact
Atatürk had warned General McArtur about Hitler in 1932. Just like Robert warned Ned and Cercei about Danerys and the Dothraki.
Just like Atatürk, Robert was a charismatic, warlike, witty, romantic, depressive, drinking-loving leader of the people who got bored of being an administrator and giving orders. Atatürk also fought, started a rebellion and won against the imperialist states and the Ottoman Empire that occupied his country.
Both characters are very similar.
Atatürk have İsmet İnönü, Robert have Ned Stark. :)
Ataturk's wife Ms.Latife's character just like Cercie. Atatürk actually love Ms. Fikriye. But Fikriye was dead.
Etc...
By the way, the Nazi's only hesitated to attack Turkey. They could not occupy. Because of the brave and self-confident new Republic of Turkey under the influence of Atatürk. Ataturk hated Hitler, the Nazis and Mussolini, but Hitler and Mussolini respected him.
Are you Turkish by any chance?
@@fragbomb Why?
@@jmdi2703 it's obvious that you have rose tinted glasses.
@@fragbomb @stefthorman Does one have to be Turkish in order to know Atatürk? You should read; "King of the Mountain" by Arnold M. Ludwig and "The Workshop and the World: What Ten Thinkers Can Teach Us About Science and Authority" by Robert P. Crease ;)
As soon as the Skyrim soundtrack started to play I got hit with some crazy nostalgia
"Wear it in silence or I'll honor you again!"
What do you get when you cross a grizzly, a kraken, and a stag?
A Baratheon Greyjoy.
The actor who played robert would make a great narrator
Half the video through and I'm still waiting for GRRM to give his thoughts in House Baratheon
Terrific writing at the end, I see why people are into these books- too bad he won't finish
I found the take of the show also interesting that cersei at first was very happy to marry robert but robert shut her down
It was more that Robert loved Lyanna and her death was the end of that part of him
He didn't though. Cersei expected Robert to forget Lyanna the moment he saw her, and became spiteful when that didn't happen. Robert tried finding some common ground but Cersei refused each time
Who else would love to see a miniseries dedicated to Robert’s Rebellion? Ik I would
Me too, sitting back with some *_W I N E !!!_*
Fuck it Do it animation graphic novel style!
Just imagine...the Mad King ranting on the Iron Throne and Jaime Lanister waiting for the right moment to make his move.
I preferred that to House of the Dragon
I think many of Stannis’s problems came from leaving King’s Landing after Ned was named Hand.
1.If Stannis had been around, Renly would never have dared to usurp his place.
2.If he had been around to work with Ned, the truth about Cersei’s children would have come to light far earlier.
3.If he had stayed, the Baratheons would have had enough troops to crush the Lannister coup d’état. In fact, neither the coup nor the murder of Robert would even have happened.
It’s easy to be wise with hindsight, of course. But surely a shrewd army leader like Stannis ought to have foreseen trouble from the Lannisters if he reduced Baratheon numbers by leaving.
OK, so he was annoyed with Robert, jealous of Ned, + spooked by Arryn’s death _ and the info Jon Arryn left behind.
But at the very least _ even if he didn’t want to go into details, he should have left a warning to Ned to fill King’s Landing with Starks and loyal troops. FFS, Stannis even knew Janos Slynt was untrustworthy _ and corrupt.
Was this mentioned or talked about at all in the books? What was Robert’s reaction to this? Did Ned ask “where is your brother why did he leave?” anything?
No. Robert didn't give a shit what Stannis was doing. When Robert goes to the north Stannis leave the small council and go to Dragonstone with the Royal Fleet (He was Robert Admirall).
But Ned send ravens to Dragobstone calling Stannis, but was never answered
I love the history and lore. Feels like this all happened in real life and grrm just narrates it for us. Its addictive to me to read as much as possible and gather all the information I can. I honestly think I could teach a class on it by now lol. If I applied myself to a real line of work as I have to this I would be a millionaire.
Loving the skyrim ambience music.
omg I was just listening to ambience skyrim music at the very same time I read this, scary how we all seek similar things
I thinks it’s funny how George pronounces most names differently than they are pronounced in the show
Sir-Say
It looks like they were half way through filming Roberts death scene when he did this interview, unless he's just a unrealistically sweaty guy irl.
I'd love to see a movie with Robert in his fighting prime.
and watching him craving Rhaegar's chest with his warhammer... I'd be cheering on him so much.
Gods the writing was good then!
Kynes peace in the background 👏🏻
I know it's probably just cause the show doesn't mention it, but I find it funny how Bobby B doesn't seem aware that his grandmother was a Targaryen princess. He seems to think his claim comes from Orys, who lived three centuries ago, rather than his grandmother who died, at earliest, 20 years before him. Probably just a consistency error or maybe I'm not listening to him right.
Probably something to do with how women inherit in most of Westerosi society, not to mention I'm not sure how distant she was from the king - Targaryens had a large extended (and interwoven...) family, but they were all princes and princesses (or kings and queens).
@@andromidius robert’s grandmother Rhaelle was the youngest daughter of King Aegon V Targaryen which makes robert and rheagat second cousins
@@andromidius Grandma Rhaelle was the daughter of Aegon V, who died three yeas prior to Robert. We don't know when Rhaelle herself died, but she'd literally have been the aunt of Aerys, making her pretty close kin to the immediate royal family, so you'd think Robert might cop this. Probably just an oversight, and it's definitely not as cool as the story of Orys Baratheon.
Robert does not strike me as someone who cares to think about being related to a family he swore everlasting hatred against. Orys is a badass warrior who he is probably the spitting image of, and right of conquest pretty much was his claim. Everyone just wanted Aerys out, and Bobby B had the North, Vale, Riverlands, and Stormlands behind him. Jon or Ned could have taken the throne, but they were both sticklers for claims. The justifications come after the rebellion most of the time
@@andromidius Westeros seems to be male preference primogeniture, meaning eldest sons and their their descendants in order of seniority inherit, meaning if their is no "trueborn" heir in the males lines inheritance goes through the female line, barring of course incidences where kings choose to alter the inheritance rules through royal decree. Given how fond the Targaryens were of incest it's not surprising that if he killed all the targaryans (assuming Danny and Viscerys hadn't escaped) that he would actually have the best claim to the throne given how rarely the Targaryens wed outside the family.
Robert and his rebellion would’ve been FUCKED if the Targaryens still had dragons.
I love how his version of Baratheon history is just a little bit skewed toward his biases; he says they raised their banners when Lyanna was abducted but he couldn't have done shit without Jon Arryn. And Jon only called his banners because the Mad King demanded the heads of Robert and Ned because their fathers had pissed him off, but they were under his protection and honour couldn't allow that sooo.....
anyways, I love this
It would have been cool to see Robert and Sannis share a scene together.
Man is it great to hear Mark Addy as Robert Baratheon, narrating part of his family history.
Robert baratheon is the guy who slayed the dragon and didn't know what to do afterwards. you can tell he misses the old days when he was fighting targaryens in open rebellion you can tell he's in a different world when he tells his stories about how he defeated this and that.
"I'm like the dog chasing a car, I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one."
Hearing how the actors define their characters, and knowing that is quite literally how George presented them in the books. There is when I realise they r good actors
My favorite house, best logo, best words, best colours
We need a prequel series
Well lucky for us were getting one House of dragon comes out in a couple days
Imagine a Skyrim-like game... but set in Westeros.
Young Robert Baratheon is like King Edward the 4th,
King Robert Baratheon is like king Henry the 8th.
Both are ladies man and handsome, many mistresses and many illegitimate kids
If Robert was alive during the war against the knights king and that war of season8 that’d be awesome he was a good leader during war.
Not having the actor of Stannis talking about his character really made me 100% sure that it’s true he didn’t understand the plot at all but continued doing the show anyway 😂😂😂
He wasn't in season 1
4:19 he has more than "distant relation".
He was a great grandson of Aegon V, as was rhaegar.
So rhaegar and robert were second cousins.
Robert and Cersei together in those scenes was friggin amazing
House Baratheon! Ours is the Fury!
so nuts how good all the child actors were in this show. jack gleeson especially, big props!
I still miss Bobby B. I wish he hadn't died so soon.
I think it’s hilarious that the Baratheon’s are my favorite house in the franchise but the while I find them interesting characters I don’t really like the main three Baratheon’s in the series.( Robert, Stannis,Renly.)
Going to reread these books soon this man is a master of the genre
That monologue at end God damn
Where is stannis the mannis?
This footage is from season 1. Stannis wasn’t in season 1.
Great upload, 7 blessings.
I’d like the audiobooks voiced by mark addy. He brings so much fire
I've always been loyal to the Baratheon house it's my favorite that's why I'm Team Green I will stand and fall with the Baratheons
I think Robert knew that Lyanna was infatuated with Rhaegar and never him. He just denied it so hard that he built rage and Destroyed The Targaryens. I think he just couldn't handle that rejection , despite Robert Himself being Any girls Dream , 6'6 tall , Muscled, strong , One of the best warriors, Charismatic etc.
The Targaryens were destroyed because the Mad King provoked Jon Arryn into rebellion by sentencing Robert and Ned to death for no reason after horribly executing Ned's father and brother and a bunch of other nobles. I'm tired of people pretendig that Robert randomly declared war out of nowhere.
@@gooby214 Maybe it's because you wanted to get pissed off you wrote the comment. Nothing was mentioned about Robert declaring war randomly in that. It just said Robert told himself That She was Forced so much, so that his Vow to kill Rhaegar and Targaryens was more legit.
It should've actually been called Jon Arryn's or Stark Rebellion to be honest coz Of what Happened to The Starks or How Job was the one who Rallied everything together. But Robert became the Main dude coz of his battle supremacy.
I love how they have that Skyrim instrumental sound in the background
what's with the skyrim music in the back?
why not, also theres a lot of similarities
Literally my first thought. 😂
Its awesome
Outside of the Targaryens, Robert Baratheon had the best claim to the throne anyway - his grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, aunt of the mad king.
The drop of blood from Orys is irrelevant. Robert’s grandmother, Rhaelle, is where the Maesters hang their hat. She’s the most recent Targaryen princess to marry outside the family, which gives the Baratheons the strongest claim. Really though, this is all rationalization after the fact, since as the video rightfully points out, Robert won his crown through conquest, Targaryen blood or no.
Storm’s End is such a badass name for a keep.
Hail stannis baratheon the one true king
Hail.
All Hail King Renly!
3:55 I'm sure that's how it happened, Rhaegar just rode to Winterfell and was like *yoink*
I love the subtle Skyrim music in the beginning.
The Skyrim music in the background tho
Yeah thank you I thought I was going crazy
Love the skyrim background music in the game
I'm so snobbish that I feel like he's pronouncing Baratheon wrong like a typical American except the dude literally made this whole thing up.
As an American, I don't pronounce Baratheon like him at all. I say it like that do in the show
Skyrim music ?
Wouldn't be surprised at all if losing Lyanna was the final nail in Robert's coffin in terms of personality. After that left married to a woman from a house he despises who is selfish and conniving to a fault in her own right a trait he was well aware of.
Skyrim music in the background is a nice touch. Did you add it, or it was in the original?
The Skyrim sountrack works scarily well.
Was hoping they would talk about who specifically invented the Breast Plate Stretcher.
Props for the Skytim music in the background
I like how the history is from Robert's point of view
I would cry with joy if there was a series just on Roberts rebellion and we got to see more of these characters we love but younger and a better look at everything that happened! 😨😁
One of my fav house is batetheon i really want batetheons to thrive
Mark Addy is a global treasure
After 8 seasons Robert is still my favorite character in Game of Thrones. 😁
Same bro
Where is the new book?
As much as I like dragons, there’s something so satisfying about just a man, his warhammer, and a quest for vengeance with loyal men behind him destroying a pompous House of special snowflakes. Yeah yeah targaryen heritage or whatever, but he saw himself as a Baratheon first and foremost.
The thing that is dumb about the series end to me is....when you think about the RIGHTFUL succession....GENDRY should have been king even before the Mother Of Dragons. That is why they had all King Roberts bastards killed so none of them had claim to the throne. At the end they should have recognized this and crowned Gendry King since he was still alive. Would have been WAAAAAY better than Bran smh.
Gods, he was strong back then