I hope that Jerry and Justin have something up their sleeves that is pleasantly unexpected, because I'm not sold on either Luis or Jazz, but with so many teams still in wildcard contention the options are limited.
He hated being here though and a change of scenery was good for him. He'd likely be playing than worse he is in ATL with the stadium, bad coaching we have, and not wanting to play for this team. If you don't wanna be here bye bye. Proof? Unfollowing the Mariners while a Mariner and his overall vibe on the team.
Kelenic and Hernandez are both benefitting from insane lineups around them. They don’t put up these numbers without Acuna/Olson/Betts/Ohtani/Ozuna, etc. around them instead of Raleigh/Rodriguez/France.
@@calinator51 none of that makes it make sense to give him away to ATL in a salary dump and then potentially add back said salary AND trade away prospect capital to get a bat that is basically equal to what Kelenic has already done. WrC+ doesn't care about stadium, lineups, ect and his would better than any M's hitter with significant ab's currently.
@@davidfailing2372 Kelenic had a 108 WRC+ last year with the M's and is currently sporting a 113 this year. What possibly makes you think he wouldn't be doing that with us?
I can’t help but feel like there’s a lot of question marks with most of the hitters on the market this year whether they’re just having a down year like Arozerena or can’t stay healthy like Robert.
I don’t want either guy. They aren’t good enough to solve our massive problems. They at least aren’t worth giving up prospects. This team is 8 bats short. The chasm is enormous. We need way too much help to giving up talented for guys like this.
You’re high dude, our bats aren’t the problem our mentality is. Everybody on our roster is hitting well below their career average and if we were hitting at average we would be a top hitting team. Any trades we make would only weaken our fielding and clubhouse culture, not too mention be a bad deal for us because our prospects are top notch and we shouldn’t give multiple for one year of a mediocre bat
What would acquiring Robert do to the likelihood of signing Gilbert and Kirby. I have trouble seeing this organization adding Robert's contract to Julio's then extending anyone else.
There's a strong chance that by the All-Star break the Astros, every other current AL divisional leader, and current AL wildcard team will be in the top 10 in runs scored, while the Mariners are in the bottom 5. Obviously the goal is to win the divison, but the recent Red Sox and Twins surge has made even the Wildcard more challenging. Fascinating to see what they both do at the deadline, since they also both have ownership issues. Gotta think the AL Wildcard odds will be a factor for the Mariners at the deadline as well as the division in how aggressive they are.
From an offensive standpoint, Jazz feels like the same thing this team has tried for years. Grab a guy a HOPE his offense picks up but "hey...at least we didn't pay a lot for him." I want Robert. Robert has the upside to be a difference maker and a huge impact bat!
people are being mighty stingy when doin nothin means we’re rolling with one of the worst offenses in the best opportunity to win the division in 20+ years. Get either or both.
Why do I think I will be totally shocked at who they add to their Offensive Roster - I don’t think they will pick up either Jazz of Luis - it’s going to be some off the wall player that was never discussed- I really, really hope that I am dead wrong
I'd make the trade for Robert that was suggested. Hurts but it's tolerable. I'd look for better value and lower cost for the secondary guy. There has to be aomeone who could be had for a back end top 10 prospect as rhe headliner.
If Ford is as good as projected than don’t trade him. When his time comes Cal could move to first base if his batting average goes up and Ford to catcher.
I really don’t like Jazz. His attitude seems like garbage and I worry he’d be a locker room cancer. Luis Robert I haven’t seen as much so no real opinion. Injury-prone is my vague impression. I am excited to have Santos finally healthy! Great potential.
💯 He's not even very good and would be worse here. Plus him being a cancer is a NO. Robert in my opinion is very worth the risk even with some injury concern. He's a legit good player.
The bro was on the cover of mlb the show he’s got a great attitude im not sure where you’re basing that off of. Since you hardly know Luis Robert imma assume you have no idea what you’re talking about
@@Lein_Media there was an article in the Athletic about him. If you are basing your opinion about him based on his questionable selection to be on the cover of MLB The Show…well. Ok. He certainly didn’t earn that honor with his baseball stats.
@@Lein_Media according to the multiple articles about it Jazz wouldn’t follow team rules or practice with his teammates. He did an interview bragging about avoiding his teammates and doing his own thing. He complained about Miguel Rojas and his leadership. From the articles and interviews I got the impression Jazz thought he was better than everyone else, immature, and a generally poor teammate not willing to learn from veterans. 🤷🏻♀️
Arozarena, bell and India on my wish list. O cant believe polanco is in the line up tonight... DFA him already! France as well...and haniger. This hole situation is dreadful...top to bottom. Does anyone have an answer other than hoping players turn it around...So disappinting. Our pitching staff is wishing they would get traded so they can face our line up.
Agree!! Hanniger is a liability. France is a a mediocre backup. No tools. Polanco has very little upside potential. (Garber has some) Rengifo!!! Fits with the lineup batting #2, great team guy, Angels need pieces, etc, etc. A Cano- lite with some contract control. C’mon!! Rengifo!!!!
I hope that Jerry and Justin have something up their sleeves that is pleasantly unexpected, because I'm not sold on either Luis or Jazz, but with so many teams still in wildcard contention the options are limited.
Crazy we're talking about trading for Jazz Chisholm when we could have just had Kelenic for cheaper.
I know that trade still hurts me
He hated being here though and a change of scenery was good for him. He'd likely be playing than worse he is in ATL with the stadium, bad coaching we have, and not wanting to play for this team. If you don't wanna be here bye bye. Proof? Unfollowing the Mariners while a Mariner and his overall vibe on the team.
Kelenic and Hernandez are both benefitting from insane lineups around them. They don’t put up these numbers without Acuna/Olson/Betts/Ohtani/Ozuna, etc. around them instead of Raleigh/Rodriguez/France.
@@calinator51 none of that makes it make sense to give him away to ATL in a salary dump and then potentially add back said salary AND trade away prospect capital to get a bat that is basically equal to what Kelenic has already done. WrC+ doesn't care about stadium, lineups, ect and his would better than any M's hitter with significant ab's currently.
@@davidfailing2372 Kelenic had a 108 WRC+ last year with the M's and is currently sporting a 113 this year. What possibly makes you think he wouldn't be doing that with us?
I can’t help but feel like there’s a lot of question marks with most of the hitters on the market this year whether they’re just having a down year like Arozerena or can’t stay healthy like Robert.
I want Robert and also 2 other players that I think would be good are Peredes and Hoerner.
I don’t want either guy. They aren’t good enough to solve our massive problems. They at least aren’t worth giving up prospects. This team is 8 bats short. The chasm is enormous. We need way too much help to giving up talented for guys like this.
You’re high dude, our bats aren’t the problem our mentality is. Everybody on our roster is hitting well below their career average and if we were hitting at average we would be a top hitting team. Any trades we make would only weaken our fielding and clubhouse culture, not too mention be a bad deal for us because our prospects are top notch and we shouldn’t give multiple for one year of a mediocre bat
What would acquiring Robert do to the likelihood of signing Gilbert and Kirby.
I have trouble seeing this organization adding Robert's contract to Julio's then extending anyone else.
There's a strong chance that by the All-Star break the Astros, every other current AL divisional leader, and current AL wildcard team will be in the top 10 in runs scored, while the Mariners are in the bottom 5. Obviously the goal is to win the divison, but the recent Red Sox and Twins surge has made even the Wildcard more challenging. Fascinating to see what they both do at the deadline, since they also both have ownership issues. Gotta think the AL Wildcard odds will be a factor for the Mariners at the deadline as well as the division in how aggressive they are.
From an offensive standpoint, Jazz feels like the same thing this team has tried for years. Grab a guy a HOPE his offense picks up but "hey...at least we didn't pay a lot for him." I want Robert. Robert has the upside to be a difference maker and a huge impact bat!
I thought Muñoz made it as an Alternate?
Talk on Jazz and Robert is nice, but who gets moved off the roster?
Ahhh, how I've missed that ceiling light 🤪
people are being mighty stingy when doin nothin means we’re rolling with one of the worst offenses in the best opportunity to win the division in 20+ years. Get either or both.
Why do I think I will be totally shocked at who they add to their Offensive Roster - I don’t think they will pick up either Jazz of Luis - it’s going to be some off the wall player that was never discussed- I really, really hope that I am dead wrong
What's the cost of Rooker in relation to Jazz and Robert? I'd think he'd be close to Jass and less than Robert, and I'd prefer Rooker....
I'd make the trade for Robert that was suggested. Hurts but it's tolerable. I'd look for better value and lower cost for the secondary guy. There has to be aomeone who could be had for a back end top 10 prospect as rhe headliner.
If Ford is as good as projected than don’t trade him. When his time comes Cal could move to first base if his batting average goes up and Ford to catcher.
"Part of the Ship, part of the Crew."
Calling it now. We do not trade for a single trade target that has been mentioned this year.
ik it will end up being some random dude like Jonathan India or some average player who wont fix nothing
Don’t worry we can lead the league strikeouts next year too I believe 😹👌
Colby mustache looking extra crispy today
Look at Jazz stats the last few months
Either one is the answer.
Second best with issues.
We've had enough of this bs.
Ahoy guys!! Hope Colby is staying cool in the heat this week. I think Jazz would be an amazing addition over Robert 😁💛💙
no most overatted player in the league with lots of clubhouse problems robert is him
I really don’t like Jazz. His attitude seems like garbage and I worry he’d be a locker room cancer. Luis Robert I haven’t seen as much so no real opinion. Injury-prone is my vague impression. I am excited to have Santos finally healthy! Great potential.
💯 He's not even very good and would be worse here. Plus him being a cancer is a NO. Robert in my opinion is very worth the risk even with some injury concern. He's a legit good player.
Let’s get Robert and jazz and clad jr baby
The bro was on the cover of mlb the show he’s got a great attitude im not sure where you’re basing that off of. Since you hardly know Luis Robert imma assume you have no idea what you’re talking about
@@Lein_Media there was an article in the Athletic about him. If you are basing your opinion about him based on his questionable selection to be on the cover of MLB The Show…well. Ok. He certainly didn’t earn that honor with his baseball stats.
@@Lein_Media according to the multiple articles about it Jazz wouldn’t follow team rules or practice with his teammates. He did an interview bragging about avoiding his teammates and doing his own thing. He complained about Miguel Rojas and his leadership. From the articles and interviews I got the impression Jazz thought he was better than everyone else, immature, and a generally poor teammate not willing to learn from veterans. 🤷🏻♀️
Big no on both. Big no
Arozarena, bell and India on my wish list. O cant believe polanco is in the line up tonight... DFA him already! France as well...and haniger.
This hole situation is dreadful...top to bottom. Does anyone have an answer other than hoping players turn it around...So disappinting. Our pitching staff is wishing they would get traded so they can face our line up.
Agree!! Hanniger is a liability. France is a a mediocre backup. No tools. Polanco has very little upside potential. (Garber has some)
Rengifo!!! Fits with the lineup batting #2, great team guy, Angels need pieces, etc, etc. A Cano- lite with some contract control. C’mon!! Rengifo!!!!
NO TO JAZZ!!
Rob I feel like is the better choice over jazz at least when he does play when not hurt he is really good jazz is overrated and gets hurt just as much
Rengifo goddammit!! Rengifo!
Rengifo!!!