As a technician Toyota is the gold standard for hybrid electric vehicles in the automotive industry they have perfected the technology over 25 years and no other vehicle manufacturers have ever come close to the reliability, refinement and durability.
Honda/Acura tech here, I think Honda has dramatically improved its hybrid system in it's vehicles, its almost similar setup to a Toyota, most people who buy the C-RVs and Accords often pay for the hybrid, as it has an 8 year warranty for the battery and motors, not as long as Toyota which offers 10 years in theirs...
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 Yes Honda had stepped up its game they have improved their hybrid technology a lot since 1997 in which Honda actually came out first with their hybrid drive system then Toyota came out second with the Prius.
I don't really trust Consumer Reports' rankings. I fail to see how a Mini (made by BMW) could be more reliable than a Honda or Acura, and it's also surprising to see Subaru above Mazda. I've seen CR rank car brand reliability weirdly in the past. Last year they said BMW was more reliable than Honda and Mazda, which seemed absurd
One factor is that reliability doesn't account for cost to repair, which is also going to be low for Lexus/Toyota giving them an even bigger lead (and high for Porsche, BMW, etc)
@@ThePilotGear Yeah he is my favorite car person on YT simply because he isn't biased. He talks crap about Toyota and doesn't sugar coat it, even though he is a primary Toyota mechanic. Can't say the same for the bigger YT channel, like a guy name that starts with Scotty.
The same lesson is still relevant here. With rare exceptions over my 70 years on the planet., Toyotas and Hondas are the best cars made. I had German cars from Porsche then BMW and a new Audi A6 Wagon which was the biggest "P.O.S." ever. Everything in it broke or malfunctioned and half the time the dealer couldn't fix it the first time. After eighteen months I traded it in for an Acura and never looked back. 20 years later I am only on my second car. Most everything is routine: oil changes, brakes, tires, etc.👍
@@fortheloveofnoiseNissan is such a shame because they used to overengineer just like Honda and Toyota, but at a lower price. Then they got bought by the French…
My 14 year old Infiniti G37 built in Japan is super reliable. Not a single issue and the engine is still quiet and smooth like when I got it brand new. I hope it will last me another 10 years 😅
I think the reason the X5 is on the most reliable is that probably the bulk of sales are models are with that B58 inline 6 which has proven to be a stellar engine for them- I mean even Toyota used it in the Supra. And since introducing it they have made improvements to the design- I would guess with input from Toyota.
Just picked up a new ‘23 4Runner for purely the reason of reliability and durability. It gets critical reviews for being old and not all the latest tech but the trade off is that it is perfected, honed, and continually refined. Thats more important than the biggest screens and most complicated tech… There aren’t many vehicles new today that I would want to own after 10 years let alone 20. Less headaches as an owner, higher resale. Win win. I owned one of my Land Cruisers for 20 years, this 5th gen is the last vehicle like that you can still buy.
2 1/2 years ago I bought a one owner 2002 Lexus ES300 w only 160k miles. Maintained and serviced at a Lexus dealership for almost all of its life. Within first 2 years of owning it I did have to replace some 20 year old OEM parts but I kind of expected it. Starter, alternator, ignition coil packs, spark plugs, exhaust flex pipe. The dealership replaced the muffler before I bought it. still this cars quality is unparalleled. Everything still works like new. It will outlive me at 59 years young !
@@stephendibari5010 nice, we had a similar experience with our ‘98 Avalon. Bought it for $2500 in ‘19. I did the brakes, plugs, coil packs and injectors, fluids, etc and we have been piling miles on it ever since. It runs and drives like new and is very comfortable even by modern standards. The Lexus versions are even better I assume.
@@Kristian_Saile nice. I was thinking/looking at a 2002 V6 Camry XLE w about 175k mostly highway miles for about $1000 less than I paid for my Lexus ES300 ($4,495) but I decided against it. The amount of insulation packed into the 4th gen 2002-06 ES 300 is amazing. Think this is the key factor between Lexus and Toyota. There is insulation in the fender wells inside the door jam. Rear seats in all ES’s don’t fold down because there is structural bracing. There is a strut bar under the hood connecting strut towers. Level of quietness is unbelievable. And also quality of materials is a notch higher. I’m not bashing an Avalon, they’re also top quality in Toyotas lineup. I’ve thought about it “upgrading” into a 5th gen ES350 (last 2 years 2011-12) when I retire in 4-5 years but I’ve put nearly the same amount of money into it compared to what I paid for it so I’m 95% sure I’ll just keep it. I did replace my struts (rear ones started leaking) and AC compressor too it was squealing but was a matter of time before it would crap out I now have 179k miles and 2nd timing belt & water pump will need to be replaced next year. I change my own synthetic oil every 5K miles. The engine and transmission are smooth with no issues. These cars will last well over 300k miles if maintained properly.
@@jeffnaval4894 we had an incoming 24 but then found the same spec on a ‘23 new on the lot and got over 3k off the MSRP. So that was worth it versus full retail in the ‘24 and it being identical
As a multiple Porsche owner using one of them as an every-day driver, I do not find the good Porsche reliability rating surprising. I am comparing it to my previous everyday driver which was a Lexus. My experience is just as good with both. We’re talking about an RX and a 911, both around 10 years old.
This does make me put the UX at the top of my list for a small hybrid compact crossover for urban living along with quite a bit of "retirement" highway miles. Have loved my TSX but after 19 yrs (with only major replacement being the alternator last year) it's time for it to go. So looking for my next 20 yr car. Pay cash, take care of them and cars aren't expensive over the long run.
@@YachtsOnTheReg7, really?!? The UX250h was in the top reliable cars list since 2020 and my own experience (ZERO issues over 5 years) is confirming the statistics vs. your unsubstantiated opinion. The simple fact that you think a bigger car is better makes you dumb - not everybody likes big cars, some like me needs 2-doors small cars, but performant. Even more, Venza (a very good deal btw) doesn't compare to the UX, but rather to the NX. You can somehow compare the Lexus UX with Toyota C-HR, having the same platform etc.
Yeah and if there’s a manufacturing defect Toyota will go so far as to replace the freakin frame on their trucks. That’s some serious commitment to their product.
@@michaelw6277 If you as an owner get your new vehicle sprayed with KROWN RUST or any similar product every year....fall is the best time...the chances of rust issues on the frame are very close to zero. I think a good car wash with under carriage blast also is very helpful. Toyota isn't the only maker with rust issues. I have seen some bad GM and FORDS and RAM on TH-cam.
The one that shocked me was the Mini at #3! Consumer Reports needs to re-evaluate their formula for this list. How can you say that a Mini(only sold 29k in the US) is a high ranking reliable brand vs a Toyota that sold over 2 million in the US?. Another shocker was how Nissan was ranked so low. I know that they are not the best Japanese car maker, but to me they should be ranked higher than many of those ranked above them.
@@MinecraftMasterNo1, FYI Nissan improved a lot in the last years, solving the CVT issues etc. I don't have any Nissan (my wife had an awesome Micra about three decades ago), but I have some friends with Qashqai and X trail that are happier with them vs. the previous VW, Mercedes etc.
Almost 3 months ago I traded in my 21 Mercedes for a Toyota Venza. I really liked the MB, but with some of the problems I was having I couldn’t see it lasting 5 years. I wanted to keep my car for at least 10 years.
Last April I traded in my Mercedes 2014 Diesel SUV for a 2023 Lexus ES300h, Ultra Luxury trim. Don't regret it for one minute the diesel engine was starting to cause problems with oil leaks (in three different events) in the engine compartment around the turbo seals, the oil filter compartment seal, and the charge tube O-Ring split (exhaust side). I got my money's worth out of the SUV, it was just time to it go (going on nine-ten years old). I am averaging 43+ MPG in City/Hwy driving in the Lexus hybrid and it performs like a champ.
I will tell u that i have a 2023 tundra hybrid and before that i had the 2022 tundra non hybrid the 2023 is much better in quality they have improved and corrected there problems i just love this hybrid truck plenty of power and smooth driving
I got my first Lexus a few years ago I'll never buy another makeup car ever again. I'm very happy with it It drives exactly the same as it did when I drove it off the lot it's paid off and this list is confirmed I should never even look at another car maker
it is interesting that the oil leaking Honda CR-V 1.5 turbo engine seems more reliable than Honda CRV-Hybrid. I believe CR-V hybrid should be much more reliable because it has a atkinson cycle 2.0L naturally aspirated engine compared turbo (oil leaking one). I think there is a contradiction in Consumer Reports which does not make sense. They are also marking Hyundai Ioniq 5 is less reliable than the ioniq 6. You can find much more similarities between those two ioniqs than the differences. Most recent update they did that does not make sense to me.
I think it's mostly because for these reasons: - less track record = inferior track record. the 1.5t has a bigger sample size than the hybrid and it's also been around for longer than the hybrid when it comes to the CRV. - unconventionality = perceived unreliability. The 2020-2022 CRV hybrids are known for holding the engine revs at a certain RPM whereas the turbo model fake shifts. The hybrid rev as it's supposed to, but average drivers who are used to hearing shifts don't know that, so they'll assume it's a flaw. - Back in 2016, when Honda was working on the 5th gen CRV, Honda did not consider adding a hybrid powertrain until it was time for a refresh, so Honda put a hybrid powertrain into a car that was not originally meant to accomodate that. This may have also led to the safety recall for 2020-2022 CRV hybrid - The Accord hybrid has scored above average alongside the turbo CRV. better than the normal Accord, so maybe it's not related to the powertrain, but something else like infotainment.
Ive even heard the Japanese make some of the best pizza in the world from David Changs netflix show. Their culture just takes so much pride in what they do.
CR helped me pick a decent vacuum cleaner, worked great for 2 years. Unfortunately their durability test is not at the level of my roommate, destroyer of all things, and it broke after the second time he used it. I always take their ratings with a grain of salt, given its user reported. One year Ford and Lincoln vehicles had drastically different reliability ratings for the infotainment, Lincoln's far below fords, even though they were running on the same Ford Sync system at the time. They didn't say it, but i have to think the buyer demographic of a vehicle/brand will find the same tech more/less "reliable"....
A hundred years ago, when I used to repair VCRs, CR rated different machines quite differently even though they were identical under the skin. Their methodology is not rigorous enough and sample not robust enough to say anything really useful.
I just traded my 2015 Highlander for a Grand Highlander Hybrid. I thought I would miss the V6. Frankly, the 4 cylinder hybrid with CVT is fine. Not going to win a race, but I have gotten up to 42 mpg on a tank of gas.
I swear German and British car companies need to be banned from selling cars in the US for being financial risks for consumers. I really hope they go out of business, less competition be damned.
I always wanted a MINI but always read how unreliable they are. It's because of Consumer Reports ratings that I decided to take a chance and buy one. I'm happy I did. I joined a Facebook MINI group, and they will be the first to tell you the first 2 generations of MINI's where as unreliable as people said they where. According to them you should only purchase one 2015 or newer. That's when BMW put their own engines and transmissions in them. Despite that the first 2 generations where so unreliable it's going to take awhile before people start to actually believe Consumer Reports and JD Powers claiming they are now a reliable brand.
I am so suprised to see Mini. As a long time Toyota tech and owner of Toyota/Lexus vehicles, I can see #1 and #2. I have had to work on many Mini vehicles as used cars we have sold as used cars. They are expensive to fix, and have lots of failures. Plastics, oil consumption and many more. Chrysler at the bottom I believe
These results state right at the top of the report, “Based on CR member surveys”. I can see that only the Mini owners who actually obtained a more reliable one participated in a long term survey. My guess is that the ones that were unreliable were probably traded in a long time, and no longer counted into the survey.
I have a 2012 lexus es350 with 175k mileage, and my transmission just went out yesterday. Other than my oil changes and breaks and tired maintenance. This has been the most expensive fix I had to do $4300
I have 2013 Chevy Equinox. Honestly I love the thing. It's got about 156,000 miles and the engine has been rebuilt by the dealership once and it is still inside the warranty so I'm taking it to the shop tomorrow...something seems off about the cylinders firing. Anyway hopefully they can fix it and I wont have to pay any money. If it turns into expensive fix....I will have to consider getting a new car to replace it. Is I do, I'm interested in a Toyota Camry or Corrolla...maybe a Corolla Cross L...maybe Honds Civic...I dunno man...I'm thinking Toyota. Cash purchase, perhaps used.
Very surprised to see the mini so high up on the list and Volvo so low. I think when it comes to reliability it comes down to the year and model rather than the brand so it’s up to the consumer to do their research.
CR asks owners specifically what broke while you owned it - that is reliability. JDP asks how you feel, like it, was the dealer nice to you, or what the dealer initially had to fix when you picked it up - that all has nothing to do with long term reliability. CR is the ratings king. It really would be interesting for them to note which vehicles were produced in union plants (Germany Included) and which weren't.
I’ve got a 2006 Porsche Cayman S manual. For two years, the only issue I’ve had was replacing gas cap and light bulb. However, I did replace my clutch and flywheel which was $4500. I was lucky I had warranty and it covered flywheel cause it was not a wear and tear item. Ie. clutch. Nothing rattles, drives like new, engine roars.
Not mentioned in the video, 2024 Ram 1500 Classic pickup truck is now rated more reliable than Toyota Tundra by Consumer Reports, for the first time ever in history. This is due to Tundra's new 3.4L twin-turbo V6 engine with direct injection. Ram 1500 only has 3.6L non-turbo V6 with fuel injection.
if you combine the reliability scores with the cost of repairs and cost of services you can remove all the European cars from the top list. When a BMW or a Mini breaks or needs a major service or new brakes it will most likely cost much more to service and to fix/repair than a similar level of Toyota/Lexus, Honda, Mazda, Subaru. I have owned 3 Mercedes, 2 BMW and 1 Audi plus 3 VW cars in the immediate familty and they all ended up disappoining over period of 5-15 years of ownership. Even worse were the Alfa Romeo, Peugeot, Saab and GM. This is probably the main reason why the waiting list for a new hybrid Toyota and hybrid Lexus is the longest for any *mass produced vehicle* on the market.
In the UK the Mini comes high in the Which Car Reliabilty survey similar to the CR survey. The previous Mini which I think you sold Kirk were less reliable
Mini cars are quite difficult to repair; so cramped. Porsche cars are very well made when they are the Porsche models, not the Audi loaded ones. Cayman is supposedly the most reliable Porsche ever made, and also has super low depreciation
Thank you for your reviews ... very good ... at 80 a'm on my 4th Forester ..really really good car.. hoping for the new Hybrid Forester ... CR has always HATED Tesla mostly because they do no advertise but they are fantastic cars.
Don't forget resale value. Sure, the X5 might be reliable (though very expensive to repair when it does break) but the biggest loss is the depreciation hit. That thing will be $5000 in a decade.
these ratings are for the first 3 years of ownership (warranty period), no? so any high "quality" brand can do alright. even the worst rated brand isn't selling mostly lemons when they're new. if you want true reliability, you need to go well past the warranty period. then i would be very surprised to see any BMW/Mini in the top rankings...
Genesis is likely less reliable than Hyundai/Kia due to higher complexity/more luxury stuff for owners to complain about. But I haven't read the article yet :-) :-)
I'm a bit surprised by Nissan being so low. I have a few friends who have Altima's and despite their best attempts, the car doesn't give them any issues. I had an 2003 Acura TL Type S for six years that even at 200k miles when i sold it gave zero issues outside of the exterior slowly starting to break apart, gave me zero engine issues. To a 2018 Accord LX that gave me zero issues for all five years to now a 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring. As long as my Honda/Acura sedans keep giving me no issues, I will keep buying. Lexus vehicles do look nice though and if the Camry had a better looking interior/infotainment in the XSE V6, I probably would have went that route.
Not mentioned in the video, 2024 Ram 1500 Classic pickup truck is now rated more reliable than Toyota Tundra by Consumer Reports, for the first time ever in history. This is due to Tundra's new 3.4L twin-turbo V6 engine with direct injection. Ram 1500 only has 3.6L non-turbo V6 with fuel injection.
That crazy to hear about the Chrysler Pacifica. I own a 2021 with 40,000 miles. I only change the oil every 5,000 miles, new auxiliary battery for auto start. Same tires, same brakes. No problems at all.
The amount of car testers out there is obscene. Its seems that everybody with an I Phone, and can scream is an expert. I live in Vancouver, reliability here is a totally different ball game than in Miami or Montreal. From plus 35 degrees to minus 35 degrees Celsius. Than after 4 years you see which cars are really reliable, and there is nothing German in that list. Average mileage in BC is barely 15.000 Kilometers a year.
I would take this information with a grain of salt. Twenty three years is a long period to cover in the world of vehicle reliability. Some companies are increasing their reliability (when they use to be poop over a decade ago) and some brands are decreasing their reliability (when they use to be good over a decade ago). I would prefer to see from 2013 until now ya know, a 10 year study not an average of 23 years.
The rolling average for more years is far better. This would eliminate the CR "mistakes" (just 1 year presence in Top 10) such as Mini, BMW, Buick, Hyundai, RAM, Dodge, Infinity, Audi, Kia etc.
Consumer reports is probably the most scientific data on reliability and I am glad you trust it I know it’s not gospel but it can’t be disregarded that easily also. You kept on mentioning BMW. I know it carries a bad reputation as far as reliability is concerned but if you see consumer reports for last many years BMW has done very well in fact this year they have gone down because of so many new PHEV in their lineup. Otherwise they have consistently been above average for last many years. I say that because I have owned many BMWs and have found them very reliable on a very long term basis. The CR just proves my personal experience with BMW.
I’m happy to have the Lexu TX500h 2024, I was seriously thinking of buying a BMW X5, but I heard that you need to invest a lot of money in maintenance, and I also heard that BMW loses a lot of value quickly.
I’d like to know how they measure reliability. For me the most important period is between when the warranty expires and about 150k miles as I believe that’s when you see what a car is really made of. I’ll be the oddball and say that given the online murmuring I’m not surprised that Honda is ranked where it is. I have an Odyssey and it’s been flawless over 70k miles but I’ve seen enough smoke coming from the 1.5T and CVTs that there certainly has to be fire. But at the same time if the internet is to be believed my Honda V-6 should have shown problems with the cylinder management system, and it hasn’t.
I am hopeful that over the next 5 years, Toyota/Lexus will be able to transfer its ICE reliability into its new generation EVs. They do have the essential philosophies of Lean and Continuous Improvement perfected, but EV tech (end product and especially production systems) are a new world and it may not be easy to translate. But they can do it.
You mean Bring My Wallet (that owns Mini). Very good question. Over the last years, the CR "mistakenly" had meteoric in/out's from Top 10: BMW, Mini, Buick, Hyundai, Kia, RAM, Dodge, Audi, Lincoln etc. A rolling average for the last decade would be better. This way Mazda would not be below the Mini clunkers.
@@maga4813, you are really boring, korean fanboi 🤣 I am not a fan boy of any brand, I currently have cars from 4 different brands 😎 I told you before, MAGA is a very smart movement - but you are the opposite 😂 CR reliability survey is correct if you look at the rolling (average for the last 5 years). JD Power is NOT about reliability, it's survey is on the initial customer satisfaction for the first 6 or 9 months.
Not just auto makers.. NOBODY is all that good at software these days, because software, like may other things in our economy, is marketing and revenue driven, not quality driven
Agree that CR is best source for reliability. I aways look at them before I buy. And you have to look yr and model specific. I don’t always agree but usually do. And Honda has been slipping. You need to look at specific yr and model. Toyota as an ovealll brand is hard to beat. I sold my 2011 Prius with over 200K miles and ZERO issues. It still looked new inside and out. I have a 2009 Honda Fit Sport as a towed car for my motorhome with 220k miles plus 25K miles towed. Minor issues. AC compressor, some clear coat peeling, ( Red color. ).
something i'm sure isn't included here are issues that are resolved from either software updates or simple rebooting of infotainment systems. I believe this and tesla build quality are the primary issues associated to EVs.
I gotta say the Nissan Frontier is the biggest shocker. I thought considering the price and how many car experts call it a bargain value, that it’s an unreliable vehicle.
I take CR ratings with a grain of salt, especially for newer model years. Before purchasing my 2016 WRX the reliability rating was above average, but not long after my purchase its rating dropped. Love the car, only issues were a/c compressor and catalytic converter failures in 125,000 km. Don't feel disappointed with CR or my purchase decision partially based on CR rating but it is buyer beware on newer model years.
Ima be honest seeing that the full-size Bronco is below average for reliability kind of concerns me. We got our two door Bronco on Valentine’s Day of this year and so far we’ve had absolutely no issues
Mr. Subaru here on YT has some great info on them. I've been going back and forth on a new Forester Wilderness or Rav 4 and i'm 90% sure it will be the Subaru.
As a technician Toyota is the gold standard for hybrid electric vehicles in the automotive industry they have perfected the technology over 25 years and no other vehicle manufacturers have ever come close to the reliability, refinement and durability.
Honda/Acura tech here, I think Honda has dramatically improved its hybrid system in it's vehicles, its almost similar setup to a Toyota, most people who buy the C-RVs and Accords often pay for the hybrid, as it has an 8 year warranty for the battery and motors, not as long as Toyota which offers 10 years in theirs...
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 Yes Honda had stepped up its game they have improved their hybrid technology a lot since 1997 in which Honda actually came out first with their hybrid drive system then Toyota came out second with the Prius.
2.2 million fire recalls, 1.3 million takata airbags and over 100k fire trucks recalled from toyota isn't reliable my guy.
lit@@maga4813
@@maga4813oh because every car brand doesn't get recalled? Lol OK that's nothing compared to the millions that don't have issues.
I don't really trust Consumer Reports' rankings. I fail to see how a Mini (made by BMW) could be more reliable than a Honda or Acura, and it's also surprising to see Subaru above Mazda. I've seen CR rank car brand reliability weirdly in the past. Last year they said BMW was more reliable than Honda and Mazda, which seemed absurd
Better believe it
I mean..... Make up your own "facts" or whatever and believe that.
I hope Subaru has truly recovered from their bad decade. My family owns 3 of them! 😅
Everyone I know that has had a Subaru has had problems with them including my self they most certainly don't belong on that reliable list.
@@thrash123ful Did any of those issues strike their current models or are we talking older Subarus?
One factor is that reliability doesn't account for cost to repair, which is also going to be low for Lexus/Toyota giving them an even bigger lead (and high for Porsche, BMW, etc)
Lexus is far from cheap to repair and surprisingly New toyota parts are not cheap either.
If it’s a New BMW there is no cost associated with repairs and services because they come with 3 free. So no out of pocket expenses.
Dang, I didn't realize the brigade was out in force today :D
@@DJG37S AMD is awesome. Love watching his teardowns. The guy is pretty knowledgeable.
@@ThePilotGear Yeah he is my favorite car person on YT simply because he isn't biased. He talks crap about Toyota and doesn't sugar coat it, even though he is a primary Toyota mechanic. Can't say the same for the bigger YT channel, like a guy name that starts with Scotty.
56 years old, owned many many cars of all brands. Money tight? Buy Toyota. Have money? Buy Lexus.
especially Japanese made ones😊👍
Btw I have a 2002 Lexus SC430 almost flawless condition and a 2024 Lexus NX 350h loaded
Sooooo true
Yep after I was burned by new '14 Forester, traded it for Lexus Rx350 and never looked back.😊
Toyota cars are not fun to drive
Anytime I rent one it feels like I'm driving grandma's car
The same lesson is still relevant here. With rare exceptions over my 70 years on the planet., Toyotas and Hondas are the best cars made. I had German cars from Porsche then BMW and a new Audi A6 Wagon which was the biggest "P.O.S." ever. Everything in it broke or malfunctioned and half the time the dealer couldn't fix it the first time. After eighteen months I traded it in for an Acura and never looked back. 20 years later I am only on my second car. Most everything is routine: oil changes, brakes, tires, etc.👍
Nissans used to be great too, my B14 five speed Sentra is super reliable and I frequently take it on 4 hour commutes
Toyota for me
@@fortheloveofnoiseNissan is such a shame because they used to overengineer just like Honda and Toyota, but at a lower price. Then they got bought by the French…
@@davewilson7602 the only car I would call reliable from them is the GTR since the French aren’t touching that sucker. Its made in Yokohama.
My 14 year old Infiniti G37 built in Japan is super reliable. Not a single issue and the engine is still quiet and smooth like when I got it brand new. I hope it will last me another 10 years 😅
I just purchased a 2024 Camry XSE Hybrid about two weeks ago I love it! My first Hybrid.
You just cannot go wrong. Mine is a 2006 model V6 Camry with 220,000km. It drives likes new.
Oh man I want one. Congrats!!!🎉🎉
I think the reason the X5 is on the most reliable is that probably the bulk of sales are models are with that B58 inline 6 which has proven to be a stellar engine for them- I mean even Toyota used it in the Supra. And since introducing it they have made improvements to the design- I would guess with input from Toyota.
Couldn’t said it better!
4Runners are the ultimate apocalypse vehicle.
And Tacoma
GREAT! I have a 2022 4Runner, 2023 Camry SE Nightshade, 2000 Camry, and last but not least a 2007 Honda S2000.
Just picked up a new ‘23 4Runner for purely the reason of reliability and durability. It gets critical reviews for being old and not all the latest tech but the trade off is that it is perfected, honed, and continually refined. Thats more important than the biggest screens and most complicated tech… There aren’t many vehicles new today that I would want to own after 10 years let alone 20. Less headaches as an owner, higher resale. Win win. I owned one of my Land Cruisers for 20 years, this 5th gen is the last vehicle like that you can still buy.
2 1/2 years ago I bought a one owner 2002 Lexus ES300 w only 160k miles. Maintained and serviced at a Lexus dealership for almost all of its life. Within first 2 years of owning it I did have to replace some 20 year old OEM parts but I kind of expected it. Starter, alternator, ignition coil packs, spark plugs, exhaust flex pipe. The dealership replaced the muffler before I bought it. still this cars quality is unparalleled. Everything still works like new. It will outlive me at 59 years young !
@@stephendibari5010 nice, we had a similar experience with our ‘98 Avalon. Bought it for $2500 in ‘19. I did the brakes, plugs, coil packs and injectors, fluids, etc and we have been piling miles on it ever since. It runs and drives like new and is very comfortable even by modern standards. The Lexus versions are even better I assume.
@@Kristian_Saile nice. I was thinking/looking at a 2002 V6 Camry XLE w about 175k mostly highway miles for about $1000 less than I paid for my Lexus ES300 ($4,495) but I decided against it.
The amount of insulation packed into the 4th gen 2002-06 ES 300 is amazing. Think this is the key factor between Lexus and Toyota. There is insulation in the fender wells inside the door jam. Rear seats in all ES’s don’t fold down because there is structural bracing. There is a strut bar under the hood connecting strut towers. Level of quietness is unbelievable. And also quality of materials is a notch higher. I’m not bashing an Avalon, they’re also top quality in Toyotas lineup.
I’ve thought about it “upgrading” into a 5th gen ES350 (last 2 years 2011-12) when I retire in 4-5 years but I’ve put nearly the same amount of money into it compared to what I paid for it so I’m 95% sure I’ll just keep it. I did replace my struts (rear ones started leaking) and AC compressor too it was squealing but was a matter of time before it would crap out
I now have 179k miles and 2nd timing belt & water pump will need to be replaced next year. I change my own synthetic oil every 5K miles. The engine and transmission are smooth with no issues. These cars will last well over 300k miles if maintained properly.
2024 is out. Why you didn't get the 2024?
@@jeffnaval4894 we had an incoming 24 but then found the same spec on a ‘23 new on the lot and got over 3k off the MSRP. So that was worth it versus full retail in the ‘24 and it being identical
As a multiple Porsche owner using one of them as an every-day driver, I do not find the good Porsche reliability rating surprising. I am comparing it to my previous everyday driver which was a Lexus. My experience is just as good with both. We’re talking about an RX and a 911, both around 10 years old.
They also need to do reliability numbers on cars:-
1) after 5-10-15 years
2) reliability number based on % of total car sales
I have owned my 2023 Lexus NX450h+ for 8 months now and have had zero issues/problems to date.
8 years from now you will say the same. Congrats on the Lexus. My two nieces own Lexus SUV’s and have zero problems too.
This does make me put the UX at the top of my list for a small hybrid compact crossover for urban living along with quite a bit of "retirement" highway miles. Have loved my TSX but after 19 yrs (with only major replacement being the alternator last year) it's time for it to go. So looking for my next 20 yr car. Pay cash, take care of them and cars aren't expensive over the long run.
A top trim Venza is much better than a UX
Like the Venza very much but it is just a bit larger than I want. @@YachtsOnTheReg7
@@YachtsOnTheReg7 based on his comment he clearly doesn't want anything that big, ux is tiny in comparison
@@YachtsOnTheReg7, really?!? The UX250h was in the top reliable cars list since 2020 and my own experience (ZERO issues over 5 years) is confirming the statistics vs. your unsubstantiated opinion. The simple fact that you think a bigger car is better makes you dumb - not everybody likes big cars, some like me needs 2-doors small cars, but performant.
Even more, Venza (a very good deal btw) doesn't compare to the UX, but rather to the NX. You can somehow compare the Lexus UX with Toyota C-HR, having the same platform etc.
I'm going to drive my 4Runner until the heat death of the universe. It's bulletproof.
Your 4Runner will still be running then too.😂
Same with my Tundra
Yeah and if there’s a manufacturing defect Toyota will go so far as to replace the freakin frame on their trucks. That’s some serious commitment to their product.
@@michaelw6277 If you as an owner get your new vehicle sprayed with KROWN RUST or any similar product every year....fall is the best time...the chances of rust issues on the frame are very close to zero. I think a good car wash with under carriage blast also is very helpful. Toyota isn't the only maker with rust issues. I have seen some bad GM and FORDS and RAM on TH-cam.
Toyota/Lexus. Mechanics will agree with that. 🥇
I never knew Mr. Beast was moonlighting on here. great Content!
The one that shocked me was the Mini at #3! Consumer Reports needs to re-evaluate their formula for this list. How can you say that a Mini(only sold 29k in the US) is a high ranking reliable brand vs a Toyota that sold over 2 million in the US?. Another shocker was how Nissan was ranked so low. I know that they are not the best Japanese car maker, but to me they should be ranked higher than many of those ranked above them.
Nissan nowadays ain't what it used to be. Ever since they merged with the French, it's been one long decline into shitboxes after shitboxes.
@@MinecraftMasterNo1only good nissans are pathfinder armada Titan frontier and 370z
@@MinecraftMasterNo1, FYI Nissan improved a lot in the last years, solving the CVT issues etc. I don't have any Nissan (my wife had an awesome Micra about three decades ago), but I have some friends with Qashqai and X trail that are happier with them vs. the previous VW, Mercedes etc.
Almost 3 months ago I traded in my 21 Mercedes for a Toyota Venza. I really liked the MB, but with some of the problems I was having I couldn’t see it lasting 5 years. I wanted to keep my car for at least 10 years.
Excellent move!
Last April I traded in my Mercedes 2014 Diesel SUV for a 2023 Lexus ES300h, Ultra Luxury trim. Don't regret it for one minute the diesel engine was starting to cause problems with oil leaks (in three different events) in the engine compartment around the turbo seals, the oil filter compartment seal, and the charge tube O-Ring split (exhaust side). I got my money's worth out of the SUV, it was just time to it go (going on nine-ten years old). I am averaging 43+ MPG in City/Hwy driving in the Lexus hybrid and it performs like a champ.
I will tell u that i have a 2023 tundra hybrid and before that i had the 2022 tundra non hybrid the 2023 is much better in quality they have improved and corrected there problems i just love this hybrid truck plenty of power and smooth driving
I got my first Lexus a few years ago I'll never buy another makeup car ever again. I'm very happy with it It drives exactly the same as it did when I drove it off the lot it's paid off and this list is confirmed I should never even look at another car maker
Thanks for the informative discussion. As a '22 RX owner, I'm over to CR to check it out. Happy holidays to you and yours.
it is interesting that the oil leaking Honda CR-V 1.5 turbo engine seems more reliable than Honda CRV-Hybrid. I believe CR-V hybrid should be much more reliable because it has a atkinson cycle 2.0L naturally aspirated engine compared turbo (oil leaking one). I think there is a contradiction in Consumer Reports which does not make sense. They are also marking Hyundai Ioniq 5 is less reliable than the ioniq 6. You can find much more similarities between those two ioniqs than the differences. Most recent update they did that does not make sense to me.
Not oil leaking, fuel dilution. They’ve had head gasket problems with the 1.5 turbo also.
I think it's mostly because for these reasons:
- less track record = inferior track record. the 1.5t has a bigger sample size than the hybrid and it's also been around for longer than the hybrid when it comes to the CRV.
- unconventionality = perceived unreliability. The 2020-2022 CRV hybrids are known for holding the engine revs at a certain RPM whereas the turbo model fake shifts. The hybrid rev as it's supposed to, but average drivers who are used to hearing shifts don't know that, so they'll assume it's a flaw.
- Back in 2016, when Honda was working on the 5th gen CRV, Honda did not consider adding a hybrid powertrain until it was time for a refresh, so Honda put a hybrid powertrain into a car that was not originally meant to accomodate that. This may have also led to the safety recall for 2020-2022 CRV hybrid
- The Accord hybrid has scored above average alongside the turbo CRV. better than the normal Accord, so maybe it's not related to the powertrain, but something else like infotainment.
I was surprised about the BMW X5 being the top 10 most reliable 😮😮
A lot of people I know who have that BMW model love it to death.
I don't believe the Mini rating...
Ive even heard the Japanese make some of the best pizza in the world from David Changs netflix show. Their culture just takes so much pride in what they do.
Yep. It's great for visitors. Pressure for citizens
I find the Mini ranking hard to believe. Otherwise, the ranking are pretty much as I would expect.
CR helped me pick a decent vacuum cleaner, worked great for 2 years. Unfortunately their durability test is not at the level of my roommate, destroyer of all things, and it broke after the second time he used it.
I always take their ratings with a grain of salt, given its user reported. One year Ford and Lincoln vehicles had drastically different reliability ratings for the infotainment, Lincoln's far below fords, even though they were running on the same Ford Sync system at the time. They didn't say it, but i have to think the buyer demographic of a vehicle/brand will find the same tech more/less "reliable"....
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee😂Agree.
The best vacuum cleaner is a simple made one like oreck vacuum. I have it for 10 years now and it still works. Nothing fancy.
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee😂👍
A hundred years ago, when I used to repair VCRs, CR rated different machines quite differently even though they were identical under the skin. Their methodology is not rigorous enough and sample not robust enough to say anything really useful.
I just traded my 2015 Highlander for a Grand Highlander Hybrid. I thought I would miss the V6. Frankly, the 4 cylinder hybrid with CVT is fine. Not going to win a race, but I have gotten up to 42 mpg on a tank of gas.
Reliability is EVERYTHING! Seen New Range rovers being towed regularly or by the side of the Rd. Germans etc just make cr@p cars
I swear German and British car companies need to be banned from selling cars in the US for being financial risks for consumers.
I really hope they go out of business, less competition be damned.
It should be Fiat, Land Rover, Jaguar, Alfa Romeo, and Maserati
@@chezzyperson3339 oh yeah them too
Range Rover lol! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@faheemabbas3965at least they are not boring like toyota..
My 3 year old will most likely inherit my Lexus es350, incredible vehicle
Toyota's 4runner is reliable and high resale value!
I always wanted a MINI but always read how unreliable they are. It's because of Consumer Reports ratings that I decided to take a chance and buy one. I'm happy I did. I joined a Facebook MINI group, and they will be the first to tell you the first 2 generations of MINI's where as unreliable as people said they where. According to them you should only purchase one 2015 or newer. That's when BMW put their own engines and transmissions in them. Despite that the first 2 generations where so unreliable it's going to take awhile before people start to actually believe Consumer Reports and JD Powers claiming they are now a reliable brand.
14:38 so a x5 is more reliable that a Highlander hybrid?😅
Considering the Grand Highlander hybrid went with a new powertrain, only time will tell
FYI: Subaru engine head gasket oil leaks are a thing of the past. A decade past.
I agree. Don't always trust their opinion, but they are a good basis to do my own research about problems.
Yeah, I think if you throw out the low volume models, their data becomes more reliable.
I am so suprised to see Mini. As a long time Toyota tech and owner of Toyota/Lexus vehicles, I can see #1 and #2. I have had to work on many Mini vehicles as used cars we have sold as used cars. They are expensive to fix, and have lots of failures. Plastics, oil consumption and many more. Chrysler at the bottom I believe
I have been a member of CR for twenty years or more, we need more non-profits like CR
These results state right at the top of the report, “Based on CR member surveys”. I can see that only the Mini owners who actually obtained a more reliable one participated in a long term survey. My guess is that the ones that were unreliable were probably traded in a long time, and no longer counted into the survey.
Consumer reports was amazing to recommend my mom and dad pick the best microwave that lasted for over 25 years and still working with no issues!
Where is Land Rover and Jaguar? Does the scale not go that low?
Where would the 200 series Land Cruiser rank?
I have a 2012 lexus es350 with 175k mileage, and my transmission just went out yesterday. Other than my oil changes and breaks and tired maintenance. This has been the most expensive fix I had to do $4300
I have 2013 Chevy Equinox. Honestly I love the thing. It's got about 156,000 miles and the engine has been rebuilt by the dealership once and it is still inside the warranty so I'm taking it to the shop tomorrow...something seems off about the cylinders firing. Anyway hopefully they can fix it and I wont have to pay any money. If it turns into expensive fix....I will have to consider getting a new car to replace it. Is I do, I'm interested in a Toyota Camry or Corrolla...maybe a Corolla Cross L...maybe Honds Civic...I dunno man...I'm thinking Toyota. Cash purchase, perhaps used.
Bro why’d you get a car with that many miles on it that’s wild
I’ve generally found Consumer Reports to be a good comparative guide for car buying. The balance technical review with consumer surveys.
Very surprised to see the mini so high up on the list and Volvo so low. I think when it comes to reliability it comes down to the year and model rather than the brand so it’s up to the consumer to do their research.
Seems like my trust with CR is coming back. We all knew the 4Runner is the most reliable vehicle in existence, glad to see it at the top.
Hybrids are the most reliable only because Toyota sells over half of them and Honda sells a very big chunk of the other half.
Love CR. Owners actually file their own opinions. Its paid off many times for our family. Toyota/Lexus, and Honda by far the most reliable.
If you make place for Mazda and Subaru (and Suzuki and Mitsubishi for the rest of the world, for some segments) I can agree.
CR asks owners specifically what broke while you owned it - that is reliability. JDP asks how you feel, like it, was the dealer nice to you, or what the dealer initially had to fix when you picked it up - that all has nothing to do with long term reliability. CR is the ratings king. It really would be interesting for them to note which vehicles were produced in union plants (Germany Included) and which weren't.
I’ve got a 2006 Porsche Cayman S manual. For two years, the only issue I’ve had was replacing gas cap and light bulb. However, I did replace my clutch and flywheel which was $4500. I was lucky I had warranty and it covered flywheel cause it was not a wear and tear item. Ie. clutch. Nothing rattles, drives like new, engine roars.
Not mentioned in the video, 2024 Ram 1500 Classic pickup truck is now rated more reliable than Toyota Tundra by Consumer Reports, for the first time ever in history. This is due to Tundra's new 3.4L twin-turbo V6 engine with direct injection. Ram 1500 only has 3.6L non-turbo V6 with fuel injection.
Everyone that I know that has a mini had nothing but negative things about it especially when it came to reliability
MINI MY ARSE WITH THAT RANKING! Everyone I know that has one or has had one has had nothing but problems!
I hope they've actually turned a corner. Previous models were hot garbage.
Also BMW at 9th. What a joke. I have owned 3 BMW’s and they are not reliable… not even close.
Why is Mitsubishi not on the list? Are they sold in US?
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is excellent - even though I find PHEV to be a worse solution than (self-rechargeable) hybrids.
Mr Buchi is alright, should be around hyundai/nissan level
I'm confused on their rating system. For example, comparing Honda and Toyota. What is the difference between 76 and 70?
if you combine the reliability scores with the cost of repairs and cost of services you can remove all the European cars from the top list. When a BMW or a Mini breaks or needs a major service or new brakes it will most likely cost much more to service and to fix/repair than a similar level of Toyota/Lexus, Honda, Mazda, Subaru. I have owned 3 Mercedes, 2 BMW and 1 Audi plus 3 VW cars in the immediate familty and they all ended up disappoining over period of 5-15 years of ownership. Even worse were the Alfa Romeo, Peugeot, Saab and GM. This is probably the main reason why the waiting list for a new hybrid Toyota and hybrid Lexus is the longest for any *mass produced vehicle* on the market.
Cutting edge technology. I retired after 30 years for Toyota's tech field. We've came a long way
In the UK the Mini comes high in the Which Car Reliabilty survey similar to the CR survey. The previous Mini which I think you sold Kirk were less reliable
Mini cars are quite difficult to repair; so cramped. Porsche cars are very well made when they are the Porsche models, not the Audi loaded ones. Cayman is supposedly the most reliable Porsche ever made, and also has super low depreciation
Whats your thoughts on Cenntro Inc. CENN ?
The hwy milage of the 4Runner was rated at 24mpg? No way, Jose! Over 65mph, the 4Runner won't get over 20mpg, if that... I call BS.
Money saved at the shop is going to the gas tank and then some.
Best alternative is Toyota Highlander with 4Runner appearance.
Toyota #1
Lexus, then Toyota, Mazda, Subaru, Acura, Honda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi etc.
Thank you for your reviews ... very good ... at 80 a'm on my 4th Forester ..really really good car.. hoping for the new Hybrid Forester ... CR has always HATED Tesla mostly because they do no advertise but they are fantastic cars.
How much did BMW pay consumer report to get themselves and mini on there?
too much
Have a on a BMW? BMW B58 engine are reliable, same engine in the Toyota Supra, BMW are just expensive to maintain a which a lot people can’t afford
Subaru head gasket problems were from years ago . are all your opinions ancient history ?...go look it up before giving wrong info.
Don't forget resale value. Sure, the X5 might be reliable (though very expensive to repair when it does break) but the biggest loss is the depreciation hit. That thing will be $5000 in a decade.
these ratings are for the first 3 years of ownership (warranty period), no? so any high "quality" brand can do alright. even the worst rated brand isn't selling mostly lemons when they're new. if you want true reliability, you need to go well past the warranty period. then i would be very surprised to see any BMW/Mini in the top rankings...
Genesis is likely less reliable than Hyundai/Kia due to higher complexity/more luxury stuff for owners to complain about. But I haven't read the article yet :-) :-)
I'm a bit surprised by Nissan being so low. I have a few friends who have Altima's and despite their best attempts, the car doesn't give them any issues. I had an 2003 Acura TL Type S for six years that even at 200k miles when i sold it gave zero issues outside of the exterior slowly starting to break apart, gave me zero engine issues. To a 2018 Accord LX that gave me zero issues for all five years to now a 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring. As long as my Honda/Acura sedans keep giving me no issues, I will keep buying. Lexus vehicles do look nice though and if the Camry had a better looking interior/infotainment in the XSE V6, I probably would have went that route.
Yeah Lexus,and Toyota have great cars.
Never heard anyone complain about the Nissan Frontier transmission or built and finish .. That’s a first
Agree. Nissan heavy duty vehicles are too underrated. They beat out any Hyundai crap.
@@mrgurulittle7000that's quite a low bar
@@joecommenter1332True😂They beat out most crap except for Toyota. How’s that?😂
@@mrgurulittle7000That's too high. You don't have Suzuki Jimny in the US.
@@codincoman9019Ah yes. The Jimmy is also a legend.
Surprised about the Frontier and Tundra. Was considering trading my Titan for one of these trucks but I think I’m gonna hold off on that
Not mentioned in the video, 2024 Ram 1500 Classic pickup truck is now rated more reliable than Toyota Tundra by Consumer Reports, for the first time ever in history. This is due to Tundra's new 3.4L twin-turbo V6 engine with direct injection. Ram 1500 only has 3.6L non-turbo V6 with fuel injection.
That crazy to hear about the Chrysler Pacifica. I own a 2021 with 40,000 miles. I only change the oil every 5,000 miles, new auxiliary battery for auto start. Same tires, same brakes. No problems at all.
You have one data point from a sea of Pacifica owners. Too many variables as to why one data point experiences problems over another.
Did Consumer Reports reveal to you which companies that they receive money from? CR is defiantly on the take.
The amount of car testers out there is obscene. Its seems that everybody with an I Phone, and can scream is an expert.
I live in Vancouver, reliability here is a totally different ball game than in Miami or Montreal.
From plus 35 degrees to minus 35 degrees Celsius. Than after 4 years you see which cars are really reliable, and there
is nothing German in that list.
Average mileage in BC is barely 15.000 Kilometers a year.
I would take this information with a grain of salt. Twenty three years is a long period to cover in the world of vehicle reliability. Some companies are increasing their reliability (when they use to be poop over a decade ago) and some brands are decreasing their reliability (when they use to be good over a decade ago). I would prefer to see from 2013 until now ya know, a 10 year study not an average of 23 years.
The rolling average for more years is far better. This would eliminate the CR "mistakes" (just 1 year presence in Top 10) such as Mini, BMW, Buick, Hyundai, RAM, Dodge, Infinity, Audi, Kia etc.
CR isn't perfect, but it uses far more "actual data" than anybody else...
If you're not sure why the Frontier isn't reliable, maybe at least look at the CR notes below it?
Consumer reports is probably the most scientific data on reliability and I am glad you trust it I know it’s not gospel but it can’t be disregarded that easily also. You kept on mentioning BMW. I know it carries a bad reputation as far as reliability is concerned but if you see consumer reports for last many years BMW has done very well in fact this year they have gone down because of so many new PHEV in their lineup. Otherwise they have consistently been above average for last many years. I say that because I have owned many BMWs and have found them very reliable on a very long term basis. The CR just proves my personal experience with BMW.
I’m happy to have the Lexu TX500h 2024, I was seriously thinking of buying a BMW X5, but I heard that you need to invest a lot of money in maintenance, and I also heard that BMW loses a lot of value quickly.
Corolla Hybrid is a Prius with a Corolla body. It will do well.
How does consumer reports rate a vehicle that is only been out for less than a year -that being the Toyota crown scratching my head over that.
The US version has only been out for a year, but the model itself has been around since 1955.
I’d like to know how they measure reliability. For me the most important period is between when the warranty expires and about 150k miles as I believe that’s when you see what a car is really made of.
I’ll be the oddball and say that given the online murmuring I’m not surprised that Honda is ranked where it is. I have an Odyssey and it’s been flawless over 70k miles but I’ve seen enough smoke coming from the 1.5T and CVTs that there certainly has to be fire. But at the same time if the internet is to be believed my Honda V-6 should have shown problems with the cylinder management system, and it hasn’t.
Hyundai owner here just want to say its so crazy to see how far Hyundai/Kia has come, they used to have the worst reputation not too long ago 🤙
What about the Land Cruiser?
Land cruiser is one exception..
I am hopeful that over the next 5 years, Toyota/Lexus will be able to transfer its ICE reliability into its new generation EVs. They do have the essential philosophies of Lean and Continuous Improvement perfected, but EV tech (end product and especially production systems) are a new world and it may not be easy to translate. But they can do it.
How much did Mini pay them? 😂😂😂😂
You mean toyota?
@@maga4813Give up kid.
You mean Bring My Wallet (that owns Mini). Very good question.
Over the last years, the CR "mistakenly" had meteoric in/out's from Top 10: BMW, Mini, Buick, Hyundai, Kia, RAM, Dodge, Audi, Lincoln etc.
A rolling average for the last decade would be better. This way Mazda would not be below the Mini clunkers.
@@codincoman9019 take Hyundai and KIA off the list fanboy.
@@maga4813, you are really boring, korean fanboi 🤣 I am not a fan boy of any brand, I currently have cars from 4 different brands 😎
I told you before, MAGA is a very smart movement - but you are the opposite 😂
CR reliability survey is correct if you look at the rolling (average for the last 5 years).
JD Power is NOT about reliability, it's survey is on the initial customer satisfaction for the first 6 or 9 months.
Mini donuts are more reliable than Mini. CR, how much are they paying you..? 💰💰
Why is Mazda the only car company that has the term predicted reliability and everyone else just says reliability?
Range Rover/Jaguar and Maserati not even listed in the top 10 least reliable? Odd
Acura Integra comes with only a turbo engine. How can be reliable for the long term?
Not just auto makers.. NOBODY is all that good at software these days, because software, like may other things in our economy, is marketing and revenue driven, not quality driven
Agree that CR is best source for reliability. I aways look at them before I buy. And you have to look yr and model specific. I don’t always agree but usually do. And Honda has been slipping. You need to look at specific yr and model. Toyota as an ovealll brand is hard to beat. I sold my 2011 Prius with over 200K miles and ZERO issues. It still looked new inside and out. I have a 2009 Honda Fit Sport as a towed car for my motorhome with 220k miles plus 25K miles towed. Minor issues. AC compressor, some clear coat peeling, ( Red color. ).
something i'm sure isn't included here are issues that are resolved from either software updates or simple rebooting of infotainment systems. I believe this and tesla build quality are the primary issues associated to EVs.
Lexus seems to be at the top when it comes to reliability in every one these types of comparisons.
Mini as #3 best?
Bought. Ignore the entire thing. This is why CR isn’t good anymore.
Maybe BMW is doing the right thing and Mercedes is going even more downhill to Land Rover territory
I gotta say the Nissan Frontier is the biggest shocker. I thought considering the price and how many car experts call it a bargain value, that it’s an unreliable vehicle.
I take CR ratings with a grain of salt, especially for newer model years. Before purchasing my 2016 WRX the reliability rating was above average, but not long after my purchase its rating dropped. Love the car, only issues were a/c compressor and catalytic converter failures in 125,000 km. Don't feel disappointed with CR or my purchase decision partially based on CR rating but it is buyer beware on newer model years.
Ima be honest seeing that the full-size Bronco is below average for reliability kind of concerns me. We got our two door Bronco on Valentine’s Day of this year and so far we’ve had absolutely no issues
Subaru has not had head gasket issues for many years. They are incredibly reliable and enjoyable vehicles.
If the phrase 'blowing a head gasket' wasn't so iconic, the issue would have been forgotten a long time ago.
Mr. Subaru here on YT has some great info on them. I've been going back and forth on a new Forester Wilderness or Rav 4 and i'm 90% sure it will be the Subaru.