The Economics and Politics and Welfarism by Anand Ranganathan and Shamika Ravi | PLF 2024

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  • Welcome to the 7th edition of Pondy Lit Fest! This year, we proudly focus on "Bharat in the New Age", guided by the inspirational phrase “Bharat Shakti” from the writings of Sri Aurobindo, whose sacred seat of sadhana resides in Pondicherry.
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  • @2960kg
    @2960kg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Very impressed with Dr. Shamika Ravi!! Dr. RangaNathan is great as always..

  • @sundareshanal1849
    @sundareshanal1849 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    There is vested group of economists like Dr.Raghuram R, Dr.Arvind S. , Dr K. Basu , J.Dreeze who will swear repeatedly that India is in bad hands & has little future left... Others like Dr. Shamika R. Dr.Veermani, Dr.Krishnan S. are all clear that significant improvements based in foundationally engineered action has emerged. The latter back up their claims based on hard empirical data. They are crystal clear that the future is absolutely promising..We need arguments based on ground facts and data. Not the ideologically biased innuendo that the former group of experts throws at us all the time. Thank you panelists.

    • @shredder2cop
      @shredder2cop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dr Shamika Ravi on the other hand had apologized after it was concluded she benefitted from plagiarism of hard work of others....
      Please take a break and don't beat yourself, PM Modi has a list of people working under him who are useless and copycats, start with Nirmala Raman 😂...
      2011 CBI put in supreme court that Amit Shah runs an Extortion racket.

  • @jaminikantakar5245
    @jaminikantakar5245 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Really proud of AR sir

  • @BhaskarKarajgar
    @BhaskarKarajgar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Free bees dangerous to state leads to bankruptcy
    every word uttered by Anand Rannganathan is worth it’s alarm to avoid free bees

    • @rakhimukerji7937
      @rakhimukerji7937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      In view of stagnant growth of poor Indian children I think midday meal is a bonus.I do not care if that is welfare.

    • @varun2250
      @varun2250 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@rakhimukerji7937mid day meal program can't be considered as freebie, neither does universal health care for the poor.
      You are confusing the definition of freebie with public welfare.

    • @alexi2460
      @alexi2460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feeding children is the least state can do. Medical and education should be more aggressive.

    • @shredder2cop
      @shredder2cop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Dr Ranga is right , Modi ji should stop freebies of free units of electricity, Rations to 80cr Indians etc

  • @sweetguy0
    @sweetguy0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Fantastic discussion, what a panel. Thank You Shamika and Anand Ji.

  • @theniravpanchal
    @theniravpanchal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Dr. Anand ranganathan is a true indian.

    • @rakhimukerji7937
      @rakhimukerji7937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who is a true Indian?

    • @vivekt4896
      @vivekt4896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When it is AR true is a person who is true and not hypocritical or pseudo in thoughts and mind, some time back one rabindra nath tagore wrote a poem on the topic, oh boy there where bangalis in india at some point in time , ​@@rakhimukerji7937

    • @counterpoint9260
      @counterpoint9260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rakhimukerji7937 somebody who does chamchagiri for Modi/RSS like Anandh

  • @shankarkrishnaniyer3383
    @shankarkrishnaniyer3383 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice topic for discussion. Many facts put forth in this debate are thought provoking and eye openers.
    Thanks to Shamika and Anand.👍👍👍

  • @Shubham-w4x
    @Shubham-w4x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tha's what I call a healthy debate. The views presented by Dr. Shami and Dr Ranganthan has their own merits. As a viewer, I certianly enrchined by the quality of dicussion and facts brought up here.

  • @krishnamurthyravishankar
    @krishnamurthyravishankar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dr AR has clearly stated the negative impact of stalk/ stubble burning in Punjab and Haryana. Healthcare Cost associated with the burning the stalk/ stubble is huge

  • @Rameshwer-su2pd
    @Rameshwer-su2pd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Sh Anand ji for highlighting & differentiating freebies.If you deep into many states more freebies are there...

  • @aroopdatta8905
    @aroopdatta8905 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely brilliant this one

  • @malaynavneetgovil1524
    @malaynavneetgovil1524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Very good discussions

  • @kafir7871
    @kafir7871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Anand Ranganathan sir 😍😍

  • @meghkalyanasundaram8720
    @meghkalyanasundaram8720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Exceptional session!

  • @sbaskaran7638
    @sbaskaran7638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Good interaction. Can be more to have deeper insights.

  • @Haveagodday-w8m
    @Haveagodday-w8m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great one 👏

  • @ShayamPal-g4y
    @ShayamPal-g4y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ranga sir always true

  • @satyasubhash8869
    @satyasubhash8869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish this discussion was another 1hr longer...

  • @suniltambe1
    @suniltambe1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now these are the kind of discussions we need on our primetime channels with these kinds of knowledgeable and infield core experts not Jalebi bai or hara kurta types,they just keep barking without making any sense just like their masters.

  • @renuberi4323
    @renuberi4323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative discussion with experts . Proud of you Amal Sud

  • @krishnamurthyravishankar
    @krishnamurthyravishankar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The stalk can be cut, mulched and converted to organic nutrients through composting; these in turn can be used to increase productivity in farming

    • @rohanch07
      @rohanch07 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Punjab Sikhs have stated that they will burn the stalk even if government gives them money to cut it. They are deliberately trying to poison the environment because they want Khalistan.

    • @alopal3191
      @alopal3191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Silica content is too high in this Pusa Basmati variety

  • @santhoshthimmottu7815
    @santhoshthimmottu7815 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AR ... U r awesome

  • @ChitBits
    @ChitBits 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ❤ u A R Sir

  • @anilpillai8151
    @anilpillai8151 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anand Sir & Shamika Madam,
    Most of the economists and financial experts see Pension as a huge expense of Govt. The major wasteful expenditures like security for ministers, building statues but not maintaining existing statues, election rallies etc. A few pensioners get very high pensions and perks continue like medical, travel etc. There are no pension for private/unorganized sectors. As a common man I would like to inform you that while in employment itself is extremely difficult to have a decent standard of living.
    1) Wasteful expenditures to be curtailed.
    2) All retired person should be paid pension rationally according to family income and price index.

  • @KaneN-gu5le
    @KaneN-gu5le 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree with Dr Ranganathan Sir, There is nothing called Freebee, someone has to pay for it.

  • @kasionline
    @kasionline 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You give to the poor, no issue, but even rich are taking advantage of freebies

    • @dinesh6489
      @dinesh6489 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      85% are poor and only 5% are taking advantage. So this issue is 5%. So we can't ignore welfare schemes.

  • @RaghuramKG
    @RaghuramKG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very important & educative discussion..❤❤

  • @Rohitdada7143
    @Rohitdada7143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Next finance minister Dr.shamika ji

  • @hemanthar2794
    @hemanthar2794 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank God "Eventually" Word Exists...DP we are saved...conversations & its ?...how i wish he was present in person (mind your quiz- wait,shutup)standby untill she begins...how are you madam? So Far So Good...bvs

  • @AGNK2015
    @AGNK2015 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video, just baffled

  • @visheshjain2566
    @visheshjain2566 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Correct question has been arrived

  • @dibyendugoswami9027
    @dibyendugoswami9027 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What you think about the flawless system of voting with the latest technology ?

  • @srinivasanpr1112
    @srinivasanpr1112 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    targeted benefit rather than giving all to all

  • @vijay2479
    @vijay2479 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shamika Ravi - should be made the next Finance Minister in India under Modi’s leadership

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the case of Union government Foreign Policy the many countries of the world criticized the india
    Recently Bangladesh

  • @mappaji
    @mappaji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One nation One election will result in lot of savings which can be used for the development work and thereby creating a lot of jobs.

    • @dinesh6489
      @dinesh6489 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even if we eat one time one day. We can save a lot 😡🤦 Election shouldn't be seen as a cost cutting measure 🤮

  • @MeenaCulturalClub
    @MeenaCulturalClub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why ?
    Why couldn't you plan this 1 hr or longer...

    • @alopal3191
      @alopal3191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Listen to the other session /lecture by Shamika ji on elimination of extreme poverty. It's in the playlist

  • @WatchExMuslimSahil
    @WatchExMuslimSahil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @UMS9695
    @UMS9695 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anand rocks! The Modi govt. is a playing dirty politics. Yogiji for PM!!

  • @sriramlamsal
    @sriramlamsal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Only listening to roaring Ravi

  • @giridharshetty2778
    @giridharshetty2778 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With msp, why are the farmers still poor?

  • @Parasuram5
    @Parasuram5 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hope it was true but M/s Ravi the poor are not eating more fresh fruit, milk and eggs, meat.

  • @rakhimukerji7937
    @rakhimukerji7937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    West bengal played the role of angry youngman after partition..We felt betrayed

  • @Right_Centrist
    @Right_Centrist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dear panelists, if only PM and BJP did not play sectarian politics with ulterior motives and hidden agendas, the MSP reforms could have got wider acceptance and govt would have stood a far better chance to reform the laws. There is huge credibility gap with Modi and BJP across the country as they are never transparent and then people will fall into prey easily to vested interests like Congress dynasty. Modi and BJP say something and many times act exactly opposite to that for their own vested interests such as religion, caste, culture, language etc. The moral is that never mix religion or any other vested interests with politics.

  • @Spread_only_love
    @Spread_only_love 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Old pension scheme, bjp has bitten the bullet too. So why critical of it ? BTW the baap of all of that is 15L and farmers income doubling . Why no body discusses that anymore.

  • @iamundefined100
    @iamundefined100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    BJP is also indulged in freebies politics as it has two bad choices loose power to Congress and let the country ruin or offer freebies to keep the power that even with retard forces it is able to deliver some long term prospects for the country.

  • @dibyendugoswami9027
    @dibyendugoswami9027 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about bribing media in west Bengal?

  • @aryabhushanbajpai
    @aryabhushanbajpai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Spectrum these days means a lot of things"😂

  • @sanjeebmohanty616
    @sanjeebmohanty616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cutting income tax is mot freebie because here Govt is extracting people hard earned money. Income tax payers are giving freebies to government here.

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Present unaccounted money

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We pay IT though Aloh Bag
    Chartred Account

  • @georgepattery4278
    @georgepattery4278 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With Indian caste system, can we sustain the nation together without freebies?

  • @BhaskarKarajgar
    @BhaskarKarajgar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well fare state is goal of democracy no free bees -gain power fool society by political parties
    democracy after all majority number game Let people aware to cast vote!

  • @KSharma-e6c
    @KSharma-e6c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is the Plight of Hindus in our Country, that we have NO choice but BJP to vote. But, BJP is constantly putting our life in a turmoil and destroying the savings of Middle class with inflation that has NO bounds.
    They are not even regulating the prices of Real Estate and Academic Institutions. How much burden can the Middle class bear for their vote bank?

  • @Sunny12-23
    @Sunny12-23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I find it very interesting that Anand Ranganathan appears as an expert on every subject under the sun except the subject that is supposed to be his speciality 🤔🤔🤔

    • @teachersconference8932
      @teachersconference8932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What would you like him to talk about ? Do specify

    • @vivekt4896
      @vivekt4896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This guys dig is on bio technology, but forgets who will be the other panelist or audience to his core subject.

  • @gyaneshwarsinngh7974
    @gyaneshwarsinngh7974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    हिंदी में क्यों नही ???

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have made escrow account

  • @alexi2460
    @alexi2460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almost everything , ie basic amenities is free in communist China and see how fast they advanced. They have an advantage of better and more varied climate. Yes, china can move to use huge segments of the population as construction slaves.Welfare in India is more important than most middle class Indians realize. Health, nutrient and education is the bottom line for human dignity. Advanced clean water delivery ad trash collection solutions could be a priority moving foward.

  • @shamakuma1967
    @shamakuma1967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only 50 crore for mental health.

  • @MsRadhaRaj
    @MsRadhaRaj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Democracy at its worst?

  • @Spread_only_love
    @Spread_only_love 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Generate jobs, that takes care , no need to sugar coat revri !

  • @Skyboy564
    @Skyboy564 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A bit disappointing from Anand. Tax cut is not a freebie because the government is still taking money away from the citizens, not giving them something for nothing.

    • @pradeepnambiar2968
      @pradeepnambiar2968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯

    • @counterpoint9260
      @counterpoint9260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it is a freebie in the sense that govt is putting more money in your hands..and it incurs loss of revenue..

    • @pradeepnambiar2968
      @pradeepnambiar2968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@counterpoint9260how is govt. letting me hold on to little more of the money I earned be considered freebie?

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U r on subject of Indian Economy
    Suddenly swivh over ur seat to vaccine
    Is Mr prime minister (Having death sentence)
    Guided u what to say or not

  • @sivasakthisaravanan4850
    @sivasakthisaravanan4850 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These RW "Lit Fests" have nothing to do with literature. Why call them Liy Fests at all?

  • @ThePolymerisst
    @ThePolymerisst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Okay so it is welfare when the BJP does it, but "khatakhat" freebies when the opposition does It.
    Understood!
    We do not have real economic conservatism/right wing in this country. We just have different shades of the Left. We have orange left, red left amd green left 😅

  • @angadjakhal7380
    @angadjakhal7380 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    G

  • @0xsunil
    @0xsunil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AR should remember this is not a news debate. Let the other person speak for god's sake. SR literally had to see her watch at 22:39 to know how long AR had been speaking. Have some decency. Everyone has insights to share. TBF, I wish to hear SR more as I hear AR daily in the news.

  • @StarpointTruth
    @StarpointTruth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly, im tired of Anand Ranganathan ranting the same things again and again. He should start a consulting company and take common people with him to make changes happen.

    • @counterpoint9260
      @counterpoint9260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why dont you vote out Modi then?

    • @kashyapkhandelwal7687
      @kashyapkhandelwal7687 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same things, but he's right.

    • @StarpointTruth
      @StarpointTruth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@counterpoint9260 use common sense. Do we have an alternative? Opposition is anti-national.

    • @counterpoint9260
      @counterpoint9260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StarpointTruth anti-national? LOL..do you believe in falsehoods spread by the fake Amit Malviya IT cell..looks so..China has occupied both Ladakh and AP and Vishwaguru has tried to hush it up..who is 'anti national' here? Manipur is burning,he doesnt give a damn..who is 'anti-national"? expecting BJPee and their RSS bosses to reform is laughably naive

  • @rajendraprabhudesai3382
    @rajendraprabhudesai3382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This msn is convicted before rechecking issue s

  • @Suhas.
    @Suhas. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Freebies is not the biggest problem we have right now, it is corruption and inequality but nobody talks about it. Politicians, govt officials and some contractors are looting 70 percent of nation's wealth but nobody is bothered.
    Also anand is so so wrong about msp he is only looking at one side of the coin.

    • @adithakur985
      @adithakur985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Inequality is not the problem crony capitalism is corruption and overpopulation are the major problem of India

    • @Suhas.
      @Suhas. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@adithakur985 oh common..over population is just an excuse. In 1990 we and China were at the exact same situation then how did china become 6 times richer than us? How did they lift 800 million people out of poverty with population more than us. And how is inequality not a problem when 70 percent of wealth is in the hands of 1 percent population??

    • @adithakur985
      @adithakur985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Suhas. Did you forget they opted for 1 child policy and shifted to captalism from communism you don't know how overpopulation let me give you example 1 farmer in 1980 had 16 acre land he had 4 sons then those 4 sons had 4 sons now each of the sons have 1 acre earlier govt was supporting 1 family now govt had to support 16 family

    • @adithakur985
      @adithakur985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Suhas. As far as inequality it always existed it will exist it's law of nature let assume you earn 10 thousand rupee per month I earn 10 lakh per month let's assume govt taxed me with 50% income tax and my income remain stagnant wher your income growth is 20% per year without taxes what do you think will happen equality between us will increase or decrease after 10 years

  • @vibhatkumar2589
    @vibhatkumar2589 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Not taking sides icon becomes a wretched human like Anand, we need to worry for humanity!

  • @rajendraprabhudesai3382
    @rajendraprabhudesai3382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toilet dies that have waterfacility

  • @rangavesa2016
    @rangavesa2016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    India is placed in 111 th position among 125 countries in World Hunger Index. Nearly 80 crore people survive 5 kg free rice. It is easy for the white collars to talk economics. Hungry will be felt by hunger person only and not a person a having 3 nutritious meal per day.

    • @mappaji
      @mappaji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One nation One election will result in lot of savings which can be used for development work and thereby creating lot of jobs.

    • @navneetmishra1309
      @navneetmishra1309 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      She answered this question. I think you are deaf.
      Surplus grain from storage capacity distributed to public, people can use saved money to diversify their food basket. It'll help in addressing malnutrition.
      Money saved is money earned.

    • @rangavesa2016
      @rangavesa2016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mappaji 14.5 lak crores of bank loans were written off to big business during last 10 years. With that amount the govt can do many wonders. Elections can be held for another 100 years.

    • @rakhimukerji7937
      @rakhimukerji7937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our children are under nourished. Worry.sbout our future

    • @rangavesa2016
      @rangavesa2016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rakhimukerji7937 Instead of concentrating on these aspects govts are concentrating less important issues. Need of the hour is two child norm policy per family not any relegiousthuva.

  • @scorpiosting2975
    @scorpiosting2975 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr Ranganathan has no experience of execution he says that state had ulterior motive in being restricting farmer protest by not using force …… does he understand the theory of cascading effects when a high handed force is used to stop a protest ….. he just wants to prove his point without introspection……. This is not baad vivad philosophy

  • @rajendraprabhudesai3382
    @rajendraprabhudesai3382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are perhaps wrong mostly

  • @purushottamkumar1796
    @purushottamkumar1796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ar is mostly blah blah , he needs to understand nuances and appreciate pargamtism, some times we have to choose between bad and worse not always good and bad

  • @Pinak44
    @Pinak44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys leave this corrupt country

    • @senthamilselvam2421
      @senthamilselvam2421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ilnit to be idiotic n no corruption in central n government staff corruption that routed in our blood as corrupted congress government never took any action

  • @rajendraprabhudesai3382
    @rajendraprabhudesai3382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paisa how bulvata hsi

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No body asked

  • @Insvikrant-q5z
    @Insvikrant-q5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Today Anand has spoken every word nonsense.

    • @senthamilselvam2421
      @senthamilselvam2421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He never spoke wrongly

    • @Insvikrant-q5z
      @Insvikrant-q5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@senthamilselvam2421
      That is why i said today. He is not god.
      Making mistakes is human

  • @saptarsimondal7653
    @saptarsimondal7653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Complete BS! This guy would not pass Economics 101! lol 😂

  • @ravikouljalali8831
    @ravikouljalali8831 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Though only Anand & Shamima are good, even Amal Sood moderates well.