Sacrilege through secularism - The Case of the Tirupati Laddu by Anand Ranganathan & Shiv Aroor

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  • @alopal3191
    @alopal3191 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    These two gentlemen and the art of conversation. Phenomenal

    • @pardeeptandon
      @pardeeptandon 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Why did they not suggest that a law be passed requiring that ELECTED PIOUS HINDUS, voted by devotees, only manage our temples? These gentlemen are protecting the Government Brahmins who manage our temple.

    • @alopal3191
      @alopal3191 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly how have they done that? Please explain ​@@pardeeptandon

    • @cosmicallyspeaking871
      @cosmicallyspeaking871 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@pardeeptandon You can blame the Brahmins all you want with the caste trope, but if it wasn't for them, Dharmic living system, our knowledge systems, the sanctity of our Mandirs would have disappeared a long time ago. You should also watch Anand Ranganathan's many other talks on YT where he had openly said he didn't care who managed the Mandirs as long as it is done according to the Agamas & Parampara of the Mandirs by devout Sanatani Hindus.

    • @alopal3191
      @alopal3191 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@cosmicallyspeaking871 where is Brahmin in this session?

    • @pardeeptandon
      @pardeeptandon 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@cosmicallyspeaking871; Anand Ranganathan is Supporting Brahminvd. and not Hindu Astha. Our Astha will be better if we have the legal right to manage our Mansirs Via ELECTED PIOUS HINDUS voted by Devotees only.
      Moreover, Many Hindus do not follow the Brahmichal Idol, worshipping Sanatan Dharma. For example, Arya Smajis are Hindus but do not believe in idol worship.

  • @sohamranadepersonal2733
    @sohamranadepersonal2733 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    2 self-identifying Atheists discussing religion!
    This is the spirit of Bharat.
    This is just NOT possible in any Abrahamic state religion recognizing nation. Israel is the ONLY exception.

    • @himanshupathak1310
      @himanshupathak1310 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly. Interestingly, it is often said that the revolutionary V.D. Savarkar, the icon of Hindutva, was an atheist, but worked throughout his life to protect Dharma, Civilisation & Culture of Bharat. Maharashtrians know him better than anyone else, they call him 'Tatyarao'.

    • @s.vasudevansrinivasaraghva4038
      @s.vasudevansrinivasaraghva4038 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I totally agree with you.
      Its not the question of atheist or non atheist.
      Look at the way the issue has been addressed & the logical questions & logical replies.
      Healthy debate & healthy observations.

  • @Spr-no9oy
    @Spr-no9oy วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I think pawan kalyans idea of a body to protect sanatan is worth the while

  • @gopalramanathan7062
    @gopalramanathan7062 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    The time declare BHARAT 🇮🇳 as a DHARMIC 🕉️ RASHTRA is now for the pride of our INDIGENOUS culture & civilisation 🙏🏼

    • @pardeeptandon
      @pardeeptandon 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Our Constitution allows all Dharmas to flourish. So what do you mean by " Dharmic Rashtra.?"

    • @pardeeptandon
      @pardeeptandon 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      As per our constitution, all Dharms can flourish in India. So where is the problem? If you want to follow " INDIGENOUS culture and Civilisation, then you should follow Dravidian Gods like Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh only and not racist Brahmichal Sanatan Dharma bought by Aryians.

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pardeeptandon shamelessly displaying half knowledge 😂

    • @pardeeptandon
      @pardeeptandon 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@gopalramanathan7062: Haffimed Hindiutva Andh Bhakt, can you kindly give us complete knowledge or contradict my facts.

  • @ShashidharKoteMusic
    @ShashidharKoteMusic 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Oooooh god Anand ji just a fund of knowledge Hats off

  • @frijou
    @frijou วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    No death threats announced. Nobody behind bars. The Sanatani is asleep. Khatra is dead.

    • @sheelah8172
      @sheelah8172 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      True sanatani is sleeping

  • @saratsaratchandran3085
    @saratsaratchandran3085 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Board has to be summarily sacked! The buck has to stop with someone. The chief minister got the sack at the last election!

  • @tillymoorthy2576
    @tillymoorthy2576 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thoroughly useful dialogue, enjoyed and learnt more about the actions / inactions required by the Sanatana Dharma community

  • @Haveagodday-w8m
    @Haveagodday-w8m วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Guys share this max👏

  • @sangeethaamotilal8119
    @sangeethaamotilal8119 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Absence or presence of reaction is because in faiths like Islam and Christianity, GOD is dependent upon ordinary people to do his task, but in Sanaatan, the law of karma itself will take its course.
    It's irrelevant to GOD, all practices, rituals, offerings are for us, not requirement of God. We follow them for nurturing, refining our own sensibilities, empathy, etc.
    Our GOD accepted even raw meat from Baedara Kannappa, and blessed him. Its the intensity and purity of devotion, lack of intent to cause sacrilege, and not the quality or Constitution of substance placed before GOD that matters to our GOD.

  • @pardeeptandon
    @pardeeptandon 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Today, over 1,80,000 Hindu temples are administrated by government-appointed trustees who are not sensitive to the Astha of Hindus. Should we not have a law under which Elected Pious Hindus voted by devotees only manage our temples. If we want a Hindu Rashtra, should we first not manage our temples? I wonder why the Champion of Hindus ( BJP & RSS) did not bring this law?

  • @sudsmobile
    @sudsmobile 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Why isnt there any mention of the fact that Jagan Mohan Reddy and family are Xtians from many generations ago? Why should they be controlling a Hindu place of worship, by having Xtian members on board?? Why isnt this point being openly talked about? I thought Anand and Shiv would atleast mention this, even in passing!

    • @shreeveda
      @shreeveda 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This shows how such a critical point, has gone under the radar of most, including these 2. Sad.

  • @mamtasharma4112
    @mamtasharma4112 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    If mandir doesn't have testing lab they can have agreement with fssai to do regular testing. As has been done for all restaurants and other places which serve food

  • @s.vasudevansrinivasaraghva4038
    @s.vasudevansrinivasaraghva4038 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The most relevant & logical observations by Sri.Anand.
    Though the anchor is an "atheist" seems to relie more on logical questions,though it may be irrational "to rationalists".

  • @longerodds5077
    @longerodds5077 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If today's hindus survived before 1947, I wonder would we have got Independence?? They would have settled for some free electricity and water and kata kat 1000rs and allowed the Britishers to continue their rule.

  • @sachins50
    @sachins50 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Question to both - why its exciting to declare oneself an atheist ? Is it because - then one doesn’t need to defend their faith, their belief system?

    • @vish2553
      @vish2553 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Correct. Atheism is also a belief system, whether it is Darwinian or not. There’s no god is a negative statement and can’t be proved. First you need to establish what/ who god is and then negate it. If you have already established it, you can’t negate it.
      Advaita SELF cannot be proven because it is already an established fact. It is the very subject YOU. Your awareness existence is self revealing and needs no proof. Atheism goes for a six when it encounters Advaita.

    • @an1rb
      @an1rb 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's better to be an honest atheist (and sympathetic to one's ancestors' faith) like Shiv Aroor than be a dishonest political Hindu and crypto Xtian like our current shadow prime minister.

    • @santhoshcr3036
      @santhoshcr3036 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      But the fact is this atheist is actually more concerned about hindu interests than practicing hindus.

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Though the discussion itself is timely and relevant it’s a tragedy that both these are born Hindus/Sanatanis but take pride in stating that they are “atheists”🆘

    • @shreeveda
      @shreeveda 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Sanatani Atheists😊

  • @krishnanb2064
    @krishnanb2064 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I find it disgraceful,that,all well known people in India,when called upon to discuss something very close to the Hindu,always somewhat excuse themselves by declaring themselves as atheists or non practicing Hindus.
    So all their talk is then posturing for public attention and more area of influence

    • @pardeeptandon
      @pardeeptandon 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They avoid critiquing the Brahmins who manage the affairs of our religion.

  • @PragyaTGupta
    @PragyaTGupta วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I see after long time Pondi fest

  • @sushamakarve8504
    @sushamakarve8504 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Once a committee is formed it would take years to come to any conclusion. Then actual action... then justice...
    People forget the issue totally by then.

  • @meenakshishanmugam2074
    @meenakshishanmugam2074 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wake up Hindus!!stand up for your faith...why are we so tolerant??

  • @naokohayate341
    @naokohayate341 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sir bring sanatana Rakshana board high time

  • @shanthni1911
    @shanthni1911 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    How to resolve? How to know if oil used in lamps at the altar or ghee used in Prasad is not adulterated? Manufacturing processes are not transparent to the man on the road? Tq

  • @anandrao5646
    @anandrao5646 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The most fundamental issue is with the Hindus themselves. Their internal fights...like...rights for first puja, first Prasad, which Mut t should control which temple, whether women are not allowed etc. These issues instead of resolving within themselves or with the Dharma Sabha of all Mathadipatis and Mutt heads, they take it to the courts, to the Government. That should be stopped immediately. Never take our problem to outsiders. It's the monkey and the fox and the piece of sweet of the Panchatantra. Each time the fox 2would try to do justice of sharing the sweet equally...by biting a piece...finally with nothing left. That's the Justice system of Government and Judiciary...we have today...they will keep expanding their control and eventually creeping into our Shastras and our way of life and devotion...even to the extent of Denying our Gods and their abodes. This - WE HINDUS MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY.

  • @sangeethaamotilal8119
    @sangeethaamotilal8119 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Castee problemm only if people don't understand the rights and duties of castes. If anyone is prepared to observe the strict discipline set out for brahmins, archakas, pujaris, then they are welcome to apply for the job

  • @ushahegde4779
    @ushahegde4779 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You don’t blame the person who sat with the report for two months. Because you are searching for religious angle.

  • @kedarnathpatnaik7168
    @kedarnathpatnaik7168 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think Sri Jagannath puri temple model is very ideal.

  • @rushikeshnapte1919
    @rushikeshnapte1919 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jago hindu jago

  • @jayantverma1969
    @jayantverma1969 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    why declaration of being atheist??

  • @Spr-no9oy
    @Spr-no9oy วันที่ผ่านมา

    How does one react to this issue...???

  • @subhasisghosh9518
    @subhasisghosh9518 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Go for Patanjali Item. 😊

  • @sanjivpatil582
    @sanjivpatil582 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why Shiv Aroor has to specify he is atheist?

    • @shreeveda
      @shreeveda 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And he calls himself 'Shiv'! What a joke! He should name himself as R3D5Tk or something like this.😂

  • @rush666666
    @rush666666 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Every political party does something or anything for the hope of getting votes in election. So this is the brutal question to all Hindus, did 100% Hindu voted for BJP in 2024 so that they can do more pro Hindu stuff. BJP lost Faizabad/Ayodhya in 2024. Now why will BJP work for Kashi & Mathura. Maybe after the temple is made BJP may lose Kashi & Mathura also.

    • @kabirajadhikari1506
      @kabirajadhikari1506 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The bjp hasnt done much for hindus in 10 years of rule.

  • @guve1
    @guve1 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Very disappointed that Ms palki sharma has already decided that this is a fake news and said so on her show. There has been no real investigation done as yet and she has already taken such a stance.

  • @bhartipatel3748
    @bhartipatel3748 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Give the temple books BACK to Hindus.

  • @desireejarrett2453
    @desireejarrett2453 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have a problem, please the people asking question , STOP speaking with like, like like after each word. Fillers make you sound stupid .

  • @ThangammaNarayana
    @ThangammaNarayana 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Prasadam is supposed to be an offering given to God . But most of the times its just like any other business , contracts and playing with the faith of devotees. We cannot buy prasadam , it must be served even if its kumkum and flowers, coconut. Thats sufficient . Instead of decieving the God and devotees , let them stop giving such prasadam.

  • @kalyanisingh1862
    @kalyanisingh1862 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The BJP was busy freeing muslim women rather than hindu temples....🤨
    Our biggest problem is that the alternative to Bjp is even worse....atleast the Bjp does not do anything directly to hurt the hindus....

  • @KathElena1130
    @KathElena1130 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You don't any introduction 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @yuuji-kun3061
    @yuuji-kun3061 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    18:30

  • @stuv_wx
    @stuv_wx 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is like 2 current teetotalers speaking on behalf of one brand of alcohol 😂.
    Why? Because they once drank the brand and this market is still drunk on it.
    They are marketeers, they profiteer by selling mass market brands. And they would endorse a different brand when the market changes.
    No matter which brand, it's potent, mind numbing, alcohol inside the bottle. 🍾 CHEERS

  • @ruchirchheda2244
    @ruchirchheda2244 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In jain there is no culture of prasad

  • @yaruingamawungshi7708
    @yaruingamawungshi7708 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is it so important that you waste one hour to discuss on this matter where as you claimed that you are an atheist?

    • @keeya_ks
      @keeya_ks 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Do. One

  • @anitasudhakarrao2598
    @anitasudhakarrao2598 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is a joke, non believers discussing the angst and shock of lakhs of ardent devotees😒

  • @yaruingamawungshi7708
    @yaruingamawungshi7708 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shiv Roor, should just declare as saffron spokesman. Why try to hide behind atheist and be so uncomfortable? 😅😅

    • @alopal3191
      @alopal3191 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Try following it up with a justification with observation

  • @vikasjha4652
    @vikasjha4652 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    All shouting, save Bangladeshi Hindus but they don't realize the situation in their own localities😂

  • @Tushar13121972
    @Tushar13121972 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Kick Amit Shah out......

  • @Spr-no9oy
    @Spr-no9oy วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is no courageous non political hindu leadership...

  • @angadjakhal7380
    @angadjakhal7380 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    .

  • @alkasharma4701
    @alkasharma4701 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Anandji much respect for your clarity of ideas! You lay down facts emphatically and so succinctly. Your in-depth grasp of major concerns is commendable 🙏🙏🙏

  • @sd5362
    @sd5362 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Shiv Aroor, on lighter note. Tirupati Ladoo - how do you rate the ladoo as a food. ?

  • @noneoftheabove666
    @noneoftheabove666 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Seems like the Pondy lit fest is running out of guests. They are trotting around Ranganathan for a very other talk 😅

    • @alopal3191
      @alopal3191 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Ya, please find me another person who explained better the basic science to determine adulteration than what Anand did here.

  • @mayurganatra175
    @mayurganatra175 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Moullana Modi love those Ladoo.

    • @keeya_ks
      @keeya_ks 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah your maw does

  • @sumankumarsingha4015
    @sumankumarsingha4015 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We Hindus can do discussion discussion and discussion and more importantly give nugatory gyaaan especially in English

    • @Spr-no9oy
      @Spr-no9oy วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At so much...better than nothing at all

  • @harshadthakur3990
    @harshadthakur3990 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A person with multiple Marriages and part of the You too Brigade is telling us ,the Hindus about Hindu Sanathan Dharma.