Child Predator Tries to Meet with 13-year-old [CONFRONTED WITH COPS]
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Ur a sick power tripper tbh
You people are monsters..........bring the wife and daughter? You are doing this for money how about dont put videos on youtube and just do it to save little girls? you wont do this unless u make mone y
Next time you rookies call the local police ahead and let him know ok 😂😅😂😅
@@nakaine7indeed they are not even police care about this sh*t but its most def good content 😂😅
i saw the newer videos and i was happy that someone is doing good work. But after watching this...this is straight up unprofessional. The wife could've absolutely killed herself and you guys would have blood on your hands. While i understand, the guy is guilty but it's really obvious that you guys were having a power trip there. You guys basically antagonized the wife.
Then i see this response.. while I understand the channel has operating cost. You guys literally have to respond to the criticism on your website that requires people to sign up to look at for "free".. collecting personal information while promoting cyber security software. Come on.
These cops were ridiculous!! Three phone calls to get cops to show up!
Agree on this point
had to call my local pd bc a blind man was walking in the road and drunk. Took 4 calls and eventually no one showed up, we had to flag down a cop car.
disgusting that they wont respond to emergencies
And they sent the first string life alert squad to respond 💀 you can’t make these things up 😂
Omg what the fk is the pokice doing
My heart goes out to the innocent family
Can you mark that part here?
same to me that woman(teacher) and her kids
@@wisemysticaltree2442 41:15
Ok
Same
Imagine being told that a predator attempting to contact a thirteen year old kid is a NON EMERGENCY
Imagine thinking a non violent situation is an emergency. You don't understand how police dispatching works
@@JS-wp4gsimagine being the parent of a 13 year old and dispatch didn't take it seriously! Imagine being the 13 year old caught up in a bad situation and you pray that your parents caught on to save you knowing your fate and you screwed up! Imagine surviving an assault and not being taken seriously only to find out years later he raped and murdered a young child only to put a gun to his head like the coward he is!! I would hardly call catching predators in the act a non emergency!! What if it was your child?! Pretty sure you would think differently! Getting these predators off the street is beyond important! If it wasn't her, he would have done it over and over again and the outcome could have been way worse in that most predators only escalate with each victim!! I'm so grateful for teams like this that take initiative when others let things slide through the cracks until it's too late!! It could be a stranger, a relative, neighbor or friend! I for one am for the children! I've protectected many children in my life, but one circumstance really sticks out. My son called to get a safe place for a 17 year young lady. She was beaten to a pulp, bloody and broken. I first was trying to clean up blood dripping from her. Called the cops and was put on non emergency. The father brought his brother who claimed to be a pi. The were smashing my garage door and front door trying to break in! I had my sons friends get her out the back door and go to my friends house to keep her safe. My 18 year old son stayed with me to when I opened door. This was after 2nd call to cops for emergency assistance. They left before cops came of course. The cops went to the safe house I sent her to. Took my statement and the 5 teens statements on these maniacs. The girl went into protective custody after she was rushed to hospital. She went on to graduate, never spoke to family members again and is now thriving as a mother herself with a college degree in psychology helping other kids! I'd say that non emergency call I made was the best decision I've made! Zero regrets!! Saving one child at a time is way better than closing your eyes to what goes on in this world starting with the children!!
@@JS-wp4gs If a grown man was trying to meet with your underage daughter, sister, niece, ect. for sex and you called the police, you’d be okay with them not coming?
@@JS-wp4gsyou mean something that can easily escalate to rape and kidnapping? oh ok
@@JS-wp4gs please rethink your comment. the wife said she wanted to kill herself and they have a predator who tried to meet with a minor in the middle of the night, it at any moment could turn into a violent situation.
Cops wanted the phones to delete evidence of them not responding in a timely manner 😂
Response time was very ridiculous, but as far as them wanting their phones, they were probably trying to do their job there. I think they need to make sure the messages are legit since I think you can create fake text messages. That way the detectives have a good case against the predator. A good enough lawyer defending the predator could win in court if the case isn't handled properly and there isn't enough evidence to prosecute him. That's just how I'm seeing it. I could be wrong though
I don't know why I would be surprised
It happens in places where C.P. find a safe haven
The way the police acted about this is insanely horrific
They’re breaking the rules by falsely imprisoned by not letting him leave
@@thisuserlovesunsets well it was his choice they told him to sit down so they could talk he could've left but he didn't
@@thisuserlovesunsets citizen's arrest is legal
Police =enablers
The 3 stooges that showed up eventually ("the cops") looked like they were extremely annoyed by the fact that they were pulled away from the activity of beating their wives in order to save a girl that almost got raped. Yep, these are the dipshits charged with "protecting" society...
I am going to start this by saying this:
I love what you guys do. I've been a viewer of yours for a long time. I deeply admire what you do for scam victims, and your production quality has gotten insanely amazing over the last year. We all know your hearts are in the right place, but I have kept my comments positive and supportive for the last time.
Yes, this asshole deserves to be locked away for the rest of his life. He's a monster who has absolutely no remorse. It's fucking disgusting that he's not only seeking to prey on children, but that he has children of his own. He was drooling over the chance to assault a 13 year old girl and only said he had a 14 year old son. It wasn't revealed that he had a teenage daughter until the wife got on the phone. I'm glad you guys exposed him.
However, you went about it all wrong. And this has been a growing issue in your videos. You're leaning on shock value, and that much is very clear by the way you treated the wife and mother. I'm all about humiliating a predator, but the family are victims too. It's understandable that the subject's family would be in disbelief that someone they love is capable of such things. You've confronted family members inappropriately in the past, and that's not okay.
The wife should have been notified by the authorities. Not you. I agree that it is absolutely disgusting that the police didn't response fast enough. Ashton was very much in the right for being pissed about it, but not a single one of your team members had any right to call the wife like that. She could have gotten herself and her kids hurt or worse by driving under distress, and I don't even need to get into how she threatened to hurt/unalive herself. I got physically ill hearing the children learn about this in the background. You guys aren't qualified to talk to victimized families like this. The predator is a MONSTER for putting his family in this position, but you guys didn't help them in that regard.
I also think Art and Ashton got a liiiiittle too self-indulgent laying into this guy. For a good 20 minutes, I was all for it. But once you guys involved the family, it stopped being fun to watch the guy fall apart. Mostly because the family was falling apart; I couldn't give two shits about the guy and would have loved a few pot shots myself. But there's a line, guys.
I don't like that you put abusing the wife behind a pay wall. That was extremely tone-deaf, and I'm glad I don't pay for your service, because it already feels dirty just seeing Ashton yell at the wife for only a few seconds. I know you have to make money at some point for production and employment, but this is a borderline sell-out.
I admire the fuck out of Ashton and Art for their passion. You guys do great work, but you also need to seriously reevaluate how you go about busting people. You may have caused severe damage here, and it could have been a LOT worse if the wife actually hurt herself.
That being said, this hasn't made me any less a fan of your work. But I am definitely not going to be paying for your streaming service. Not until you guys polish your approach.
Just please be more considerate in the future. You need to handle things like this a bit more delicately. This guy might not see any jail time at all because of how this was handled on camera. Defense attorneys will have a field day with this video.
100%
Room for improvement while acknowledging this is super serious stuff that needs a level head of empathy toward everyone who isn’t the pred
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They became victimizers.
You guys need to deal with the families of the predators a little different. They are victims in this too, and you're blindsiding them and telling them that you're going to post something that doesn't just ruin HIS reputation, but something that will get the kids bullied, potentially cause the mother to get fired, etc. On the internet for millions of people to see.
Totally agree. Incredibly irresponsible.
Yeah they made that mistake but atleast hes off the streets
@@MichaelM-uw3mk Absolutely it was nothing short of cruel the way they brought his wife into it…
I think in cases like this where you plan to contact a innocent party and get them involved by breaking the news, maybe its better to plan that in person then have them deal with hearing that devastating news over the phone. It was kinda sad hearing her reaction over the phone. I don't give a shit about the pred-o-freak's feelings though, he did this to himself.
Let's not get confused by who the real victims are, or could be. I could give two shits about his ignorant wife. HE did this to himself and his family. Disgusting.
Threatening a woman who said she was going to harm herself about exposing a video of her and her kids finding out that the man they trusted was a creep is so wrong .. the wife and kids are as much of a victim as your fake decoy
I feel like this video is a wake up call reminding us all the victims have families
@@Kodon32are u serious???? they don’t deserve anything and if their families have any sympathy for them they should be arrested too and registered as preds !!!!!
@joseexe8564 I think what they're trying to say is there are other victims of these preds besides the children they prey on. Nobody said anything about sympathizing for the preds.
Imagine making entertainment out of this…
@andreashaggstrom it's awareness and safety
As a SA therapist it's disappointing to see how the wife was told. Best practice is to have a police liaison officer or a social care professional to disclose to the family and to deliver crisis care for them; particularly when there are children in the family. The family deserve access to emergency mental health services, legal advice and independent sexual violence counselling.
Honestly who gives a fuck she had to have an idea idc what you women love to say I had no idea blah blah yeah the signs were in your face you ignored it you deserve to be in as much shit as him
I agree with you..
If the police took child sex predation seriously, then they would not have had time to do that.
Sure, until it happens to your kids right?
Bet she willing ignored some serious signs makes for enabling
Y’all didn’t need to give his wife a panic attack
Pretty sure she did it all herself. They didn't work her up, they gave her facts.
@@vintaqe_vibez5978But yes, if you hear your husband was meeting up with little kids, MINORS to “hangout”, wouldn’t you freak out too? Their family is falling apart because the husband is going to go to prison, and who knows how long the sentence is, the kids won’t be with there father. Could you imagine hearing that? She had a normal reaction, denial. Then freaked out realizing it all, like her world is going to fall apart. Then them screaming at her to stop crying? That’s going to make the whole situation worse and her to panic more
@@vintaqe_vibez5978Would it kill you to have any ounce of empathy? …
So true these guys are clowns bruhhh just wait for the police smh ugh the guy with glasses wanted to punch him so bad bro and yes it’s awesome catching these punks but why call the wife let her find out in a claim way by a phone call or something idk the way they did was sooooo un professional and dumb asf
U think the wife wouldn't have done it without the guys telling her ? @@erictech201
This is horribly handled on the part of caring for his wife... she needed care on the spot
Yeah they really suck. She should have never been contacted. Leave that for the police. Now she is on youtube against her will and her sons name was later given in the full and he was shown the text messages which is just as bad since they gave obscene texts to a minor.
@@Jim26D damn
this channel is an absolute joke. I lost all my respect for these guys, the point of these things is to prevent or minimize the harm that could be done to everyone involved in the matter, INCLUDING the family of the predator. these guys don't deserve to be in this position because they don't handle it properly. period. that's why Chris Hansen is such a legend in this field. that guy is SO professional and always tries to DEescalate the situations and remain calm. these guys are a bunch of children
@@mfs353in their one 4 months ago they handled it way better
@@Jim26D very good points
I think there needs to be one person on the team that deals with counseling/health/childcare etc to give his input and to pull you guys back when it's needed. It's good that you got the predator, but at the same time, you didn't need to involve the man's family. the man may be guilty but his wife and child are innocent. allow the professionals to give them the news.
Yes this is true you cane see how they pushing them to get more vieuws like calling his wife to come over here to have a better video, she is lucky she didn’t kill her self in the house that, this crew was then guilty
I get that but it’s best the family knows than doesn’t especially since it involves a minor pretty fucked
Agreed
I agree they definitely need someone like that in the team if they will do more of this.
no dont do better this is not for aa youtube channel to do! That's not a sickness this is entrapment! Trilogy media should be in jail!
As a survivor of CSA, I am so angry and disgusted by child predators.
I do think that maybe Trilogy Media may have been hard on the wife, but in many circumstances, the wife or girlfriend/partner may know and choose to look the other way.
I’m not defending them, but I know why they may have acted aggressively.
Adults preying on children, it leads to horrific consequences for the children.
I’m 55 years old and still suffering. I still have trouble trusting people. No matter how much therapy, if you have been the victim of horrific sexual and physical abuse by an adult as a child, it’s a lifetime of suffering.
@CA-qi4gi and all us survivors and thank you @TrilogyMedia too.
@CA-qi4gi I hope you are doing okay, I too am a survivor of horrific child sexual abuse, and I understand no matter how much counselling we do as survivors there are always moments even at our age we struggle with trauma even now... and it's difficult for people who haven't suffered at the hands of those, as children, we should be able to trust. I do think, because they did have the home address - I really believe they should have had support there for the wife and son - professional support for them. The perpetrator has an incurable disease, and I think it's sad there is no effective treatment for these sick humans - isolation from the world at large, or any others like them... a prison in the desert, isolated from the world and others of the same ilk, so they can't enjoy the retelling of their sickening excitement even in the retelling.
I only watch these particular Trilogy shows on this subject, because it helps me to feel some justice, somewhere is being done in this world. Thank you Trilogy for that. And I too continue with therapy like you said you have, you and I are worthy of genuine and kind love and protection from the majority of decent people in this world we all live in.
#Exactly #bondage #manipulation
same here. I'm 43, and it NEVER goes away ..
Prayers for you 😇 🙏🏻
Guys seriously. I love your videos and what you do to expose these people. However, you clearly started before you called the wife ‘she has a heart problem right’ then proceeded to call aggressively and distress her. I really don’t agree with this. There is a fine line between exposing these people and letting the trained professionals inform and support the families and victims. Stop acting above your station. You are TH-cam content creators not police. Please continue to do the work your doing but let the professionals deal with the rest.
Ashton says to the police “now the wife is making violent threats against herself and is now on her way to the park we need assistance now” yeahhhh because they called her like that out the blue and told her to come?
These guys are sadistic. Catching Preds is good thing but these guys like harassing and abusing culprits. That's not their job.. their job is to inform the police.
I don't think professionals where doing a good job Ellen. They wanted to delete the evidence for him
the wife knew
@duavostudios I think the cops may be part of a predator group with the suspect
The wife was handled extremely poorly. The family should have been notified by the authorities. This was for shock value and clout. This was disappointing
100% agree.
Still though he deserved the humiliation. That shit was hilarious 😂😂
well duhh, thats the point of all of them
stfu hes a pred
There is a way to handle this kind of thing..hand it immediately to the police. Yes he deserves it but they are also in the wrong by being BULLIES
This is so disturbing, from the actual predator, to the confrontation from the team, to the police response. My heart goes out to the family. I saw the extended version on the website and it was absolutely disgusting how Ashton berated the wife, who was clearly traumatized and not in her right mind. I admire predator catchers and their noble work, but this was handled so poorly it seems less noble and more exploitive for views. Like dude… “bring the kids”?! You gotta be fucking kidding me.
Absolutely all the cinematic bullshit has no place for something like this
Absolutely agree with you. These guys will get sued by the families if they continue doing this in this fashion. It's extremely unprofessionally handled and invasive toward the other family members.
But dude, she called back to them and just wanted them to blur her husband's face which they have the RIGHT to not blur because it was at a public park and they also have a right to keep his face on here and no blur to it, once the wife hears that, she keeps interrupting all of the crew doing this operation and telling them dont be stupid over and over and keeps cutting them off from explaining WHY they are doing this and the wife just keeps being a fool over here!!
Once she calls Ashton a "pendejo (asshole in Spanish)", thats literally his right to cuss at her back for talking this useless nonsense shit to the guys who is literally exposing the husband who wants to have sex with a 13 yr old, and NOW she wants to defend her husband over HER reputation and the kids which LITERALLY the video has nothing to do with that and her kids are NOT involved with this case is DISGUSTING of her as well for not understanding what they are doing, I dont blame Ashton for yelling back at her because seriously, she's not getting the WHOLE picture of this FR!!
Yeah I feel the same but I put that on Trilogy… I think that Courtney Elizabeth is usually a great catcher and I’ve never seen it turn into this on her channel alone. This catch was sad for the family for sure… they treated her shitty and it could have gotten pretty bad with her threatening suicide. Also them telling her to come and bring his kids that’s fucking awful.
Right? They talk about “what if it was an actual 13 year old, u would of fucked them up for life” but quickly show their lack of empathy for the innocent. This channel started with a good intention, but there’s no structure and I wish they’d learn that instead of straight up bullying, like 2 year olds.
Really enjoyed this. I hope you grow the business into this in full force. This saves children, nothing could be more important. Shame is powerful.
Thank you for this guys!! AMAZING!!!
P.s. Skeeter Jean would be an excellent experienced collab
P.s. #2 - damn man what happened to Cali cops, they got their balls cut off completely, just little lambs staring at headlights.
Hell no ...not their thing..stick to scamming
@@Dmoney2690 that’s what I’m saying
Don't say they saved children after he's behind bars.
They surrounded and antagonised him. Made multiple jokes. Including one about his son and his private parts.
@@scuba-- I guess trying to molest a child is fine by you?
Cursing at the 911 operator will actually make your call non priority.
He needs to hurry up because he forgot his inhaler. 😂
Thats crazy
Very unprofessional on his part.
This guy is an ass. He deserves to be cancelled
Him shit talking the cops makes him look like an idiot
44:34 (Spanish) "An hypocrite.. An hypocrite, THATS WHAT YOU ARE! Because you always criticized that type of people"
damn, that hits insanely hard
@@Azmeroth1370this isn’t a song
@@KEWOVER not like a song, but with the meaning and impact
@@KEWOVERcalm down
@@KEWOVER nobody said it was dummy lmfao
48:46 The terror and sorrow in the child's voice as she realized that her father is a predator gave me POWERFUL chills... it says it all. i feel so bad for the innocent family
god being in the same age range as her and dealing with trauma like this gave me a pain in my heart hearing her, fuck dude...
The child if female already knows as does the wife trust me from experience they target their own while targeting others kids n mothers cover up for them n turn a blind eye as they protect their husband. My narc mother was also a good actress pretending innocence and twisting it to turn it around in her children. They also play victims.
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677but not all of them do, not all pedos are incest and not alll wives of them know an are in on it. Your one experience doesn’t speak for all families in this situations. I personally thinks it’s extremely cruel and horrible to assume they know and the mom covered it up
This is an old comment but when I heard that I had to legitimately pause the video and take a break. That shit is crazy dawg…
Trust me bro 😂
Oh boy this whole sting was very messy.. Yikes
59:46 "...and some spicy phone calls from the family" this right here plus the bit at the end where you're angry at the wife just shows that all this was for views. Could have done this a lot better without making yourselves look bad.
Absolutely mental that they thought including this would be viewed in a positive light
Agreed. Ashton is a p*nk for that.
The guy is a total prick. I can't believe he added that at the end like everyone would applaud him. Idiot.
Oh my god how on earth did I miss this in the video? He then literally straight after threatened to post the whole thing on line wether she likes it or not? I’m genuinely in disgust. “Pay my subscription fee to watch a family get destroyed”.
cope
Screaming "I told you so" to his wife, expecting her to instantly believe this kind of phonecall from (to her) complete strangers is crazy and nasty work.
Grow a fucking pair
Exactly she’s already hurt 😢
yeah cus catching pedos and alerting there family about it is nasty work
@@K_mui There is a difference between alerting and screaming `I told you so´, like there is something to celebrate.
a pedophile got caught. What are we not celebrating?@@8IGHTYY
I went through this with my Ex Husband. I had no idea until the FBI came to my front door. I screamed and cried for a couple hrs. I was fortunate enough to have already been divorced. This ruins families and lives. I am glad that they are doing this to catch these predators. My children had to through multiple interviews and lots of therapy. We were lucky that he didn't touch my children. He is currently awaiting his court date.
I am so sorry, Melissa 😢
My sister went through the same experience with her husband of 5 years. She had no idea that he was having sex/texting prostitute during a Friday Night, when he was supposedly meant to be out with a friend of his (that my sister knew about). He was also accused of sexually abusing another friend of theirs with letters and even threatening her if she didn't preform those sexual act's. It took my sister a long time to accept what he had done, and right now she's going through therapy.
Update! My Ex husband has been convicted in November and is now serving 8yrs in federal prison.
@@melissawalker4093I'm glad he's been convicted and hope you and your children are okay.
@@melissawalker4093Predators are not so innocent around other children, imagine what he was planning on doing to *YOUR* children if he was not caught by the FBI.
What the hell is wrong w these cops?! Im SHOOK rn. And fuming. 😡😡😡
I was molested at the age of 7 by my dad’s brother. I never got my justice but seeing these creeps panicked, scared, and caught totally off guard is satisfying. I’m a mother now and it’s great to know that there’s people like you and your team fighting for our children’s innocence. Please don’t let up on exposing these monsters.
So sorry you had to go through that. Prayers for you and your family
I'm so sorry that happened.
I hope you're doing better now.
Bless you and Im so happy youre safe now ❤️🙏🏻
Same happened to me starting from age 4. It’s good to see them suffer.
I’m a retired lieutenant and I’m horrified at how this was handled. One of the great pleasures of my life was firing jerks like that FTO even if we had to deal with union reps.
They need to respect families they are victims too it’s very sad for the wife and kids
@@HannaBentMohammedMahmoud the wife and kids are Martin's victims also, TM did nothing wrong. TM told the wife cause her husband is a coward and didn't have the Balls to tell his wife that he was caught trying to r@pe a child, but was caught in a sting instead.
@@christinamaldonado9513they didn’t exactly break it to her in The best manner tho
@@Breadstickz8002 what is the best manner? How would you have done it?
@@christinamaldonado9513 These guys call her, And Immediately Just Upfront tell her that her husband is a Pedophile, was cheating on her and Is going to prison, Which obviously caused her to Have a Mental Breakdown. Instead of doing that, have her come to the location, with the police there, and Gradually explain it to her
When fighting monsters, be careful not to become one yourself.
Well said
Yup
We know that what relevance does that have with this video with these men
When staring into the abyss, make sure that the abyss doesn't stare back into you...
@@John_Marston_1907 well, art was being typical art and dominating the convo loving the sound of his voice and not understanding the wife. But Ashton lacked a lot of empathy towards her and was behaving quite vile, if you watch to the end for exclusive “spicy” content they didn’t include in this video… just that sneak peek was gross.
No way should the wife been told in that manner ! It endangered her and the kids
Omg the poor wife. My heart literally breaks for her. I’ve always liked watching Trilogy Media but I’m not gunna lie I think this was handled badly that it made me feel sick.
I honestly do agree with you on that because this could’ve been handled a lot better
The funny part is that if he has a good lawyer, he can sue Trilogy Media for quite a handful of things, regardless of what he did, since he still has rights. And every single guy they catch. There's a reason why police has to behave a certain way.
And the son how he needs to feel afther this :(
@@thrraxthat's just bullshit illogical American laws. In Europe if you fuck up, you fuck up. No way out of it.
The American logic reminds me of that old lady who put the wet cat in microwave and cat died and then she sued the microwave company not telling her not to put the cat there. Lol.
In Europe if you slip on wet floor and hurt yourself it's your own damn fault. In america it's the janitors fault.
Lvl 999 logic.
Trilogy didn't hurt the family. The sick pedo hurt his own family. I hope he wakes up in a cold sweat every single day for what he did to his family. Thank you Trilogy for making him pay even if our legal system won't.
This is sick on the handling the wife part. She straight up said she’s gonna kill herself. You handled that horribly. Do better.
1. There is no good way to put that, if the police told her she most likely would’ve reacted the same. 2. I’d like to see you confront a CHILD PREDATOR that can do anything at any time. I think they deserve a bit of credit.
@@chloerife2268 exactly
catch a pred and write that again.
bro how is that their fault are you forgetting what the husband did headass
@@chloerife2268 okay the police would’ve taken her threat seriously and would’ve gotten her help no?
You can't drop a bombshell like this onto their laps and then SCOLD THEM FOR REACTING EMOTIONALLY. Their family is disintegrating in real time and you're snapping at them about screaming and crying?!?!?!
Who is “their” I know ur not defending Martin! He should have not tried to meet a child for sex n maybe his family wouldn’t be going through this! MARTIN DID THIS THE CREW JUST EXPOSED IT!
@@sophiaeuan5763 they could be possible be talking about the wife and kids.
@@sophiaeuan5763 are you that remedial? Obviously talking about the wife and kids.
They’re sadistic
@@goodcatfilms4276You’re sadistic for defending a predator, disgusting!
I'm glad he was caught, no question. But this could and should have been handled much better. It's beyond frustrating that law enforcement did not make this a priority. Its hard to say how this could have been handled in a way where his wife wouldn't have been blindsided, but i have to believe a call from youtubers who are not professionals in dealing with high stress situations, is not the best way.
I agree. The production team sucks
It wasn't a priority though. 9-1-1 is for emergency services.
He probably did "intrapment". If you want these guys to be taken away you gotta get the authorities in on it once you reel them in without intrapment.
Except he wasn’t caught. Cops had to let him go because they didn’t have enough evidence to take him in.
@SaltSalted Technically probably not entrapment, since they’re not law enforcement.
The phone call with the wife was handled sooooo horribly. Have some compassion I feel like they berated her more than the predator.
WHAT?
The predator is the one who betrayed the wife not the team the team just busted his ass
the ppl against trilogy ae making zero sense lol
I agree on this. The aftermath for the family that they're gonna face is not what they deserve. The team could've been a bit more sensitive towards the family and on the way they were gonna be informed. Heat of the hour at times may result in fatal consequences and thiss not what Trilogy team wants by busting such predators.
@@milxstka well, I mean we all agree with them morally. pedophiles are awful and need to be brought to justice. but these guys go from justice to full on revenge pretty quickly.
The first part of this video made me sick because of how gross the predator is, but the rest of the video really made me sick for how everything was handled. While I was upset with police not showing up, not contacting them in advance and then proceeding to curse them out could only have led to a slower resolution. Then the phone call to the wife never should have happened unless they had someone there with her to ensure the safety of her and the kids. Not to mention there seemed to be little to no immediate protection for Courtney had the predator jumped her at any point. At least with Chris Hansen videos, there's always a physical separation plus a very quick getaway for the decoy, then police waiting outside after the short interview. The predator deserves every last moment of distress in front of the camera, but it felt repetitive and unnecessary after a while rather than just police taking him away had they been prepared in advance. Idk, this just wasn't it, and left me feeling yucky.
Your advice is absolutely correct. A lot of things could have been handled differently, it's really a miracle that everyone is alright right now.
What do you mean "ensure the saftey of the kids"? Lmao, she is a fking adult.
Yes! What is the goal? The cops need to be included from the beginning. It’s like they’re just directing a movie, and they’re pissed at the cops for not playing the role they were expected to play, when they never had the script. These people are all very young. It’s admirable what they’re trying to do. But I hope they learn from this mistake.
The more money they make from this, the more they will do it, and the more views and comments they get from this, the more money they'll make, therefore the more commenters they'll trigger like you, the more money they'll make. So now you're left with 1 question "Would I rather them save more kids doing this, or not, because I get offended by the way they're (actually saving kids)?
@@LavaCreeperPeople They still get so many views and from what I’ve seen in the comments, they were overall very widely praised for the video. I have also, however, seen a lot of people upset and specify they’d either unsub or at least never spend the actual money on Trilogy+ until things are worked out better. I’d honestly rather them just do this at a smaller scale/with better professionalism. Doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Not to mention, the guy walked away and likely didn’t even get arrested (yet), so seems like a lot of stage yelling and hurting innocent bystanders (the family) for nothing concrete to even happen.
To hear the wife was probably the saddest thing I've ever heard next to a child mole
From a mental health care professional, this is so dysfunctional on so many fronts. It should be a lesson in all the things one should never do in a take down. First and foremost, you NEVER as an unlicensed, untrained individual call a spouse and give this kind of information over the phone. 1. You have no idea of their current mental state. 2. You have no idea of the accessibility to weapons. 3. You do not know if children are present. You also are very unaware of the culpability to which you could be held should a person commit suicide. It just seems this is not well thought out but more of a surface plan of how fast can I get a show together. If you feel compelled to do this, I do not understand why you do not go through the police academy and become a detective. It seems like what you want but you don't want to be bothered with the process. So, you will just do it the way you want to. If you ever do this to a wealthy individual it will end you because there are so many areas where ya'll could all be sued, a person could keep you tied up in court for a very long time. The mental and verbal abuse the pedophile endures for over an hr would open many doors for litigation. Regardless of how officers feel about criminals, even they are no longer allowed to do the verbal abuse. So do you really think you would be given more leadway? No. Some states could charge you with kidnapping and abuse. I just hate to see you trying to do what you perceive as a good deed go bad for you. After seeing how unwelcomed and unwanted your help was wanted in this video by the police, I can only surmise how happy they would be to testify against you as well. I mean at one time you were all so animated toward one another that not a word could be understood by anyone. You were saying you are not taking my phone but with a court order they could have easily taken custody of it. Just good luck! Be informed!
i have to agree with you. i admire what these men do to take down scammers and pedophiles but the abuse to the man ( and yes his crime is heinous) is excessive and irresponsible. they have no right to ask him to call his wife for exactly the reasons you state. who knows what this kind of radioactive information could do to a person, unprepared and unsuspecting? keep up the work of trying to bring scammers and sexual predators to justice, but layoff on the abuse. you have no right. and ironically, and shocking as it may seem you run the risk of shifting sympathy to the perpetrator when you continue to subject that person to unyielding threats, dibasementent, and harsh abuse. the person is caught - their lives for all intents and purposes is about over they don't need you adding more cruelty to the mix.
My thoughts exactly. Thank you for sharing
Well said. I have seen a couple of videos by this group of people and was quite disgusted. They bullied and forced this man and his family into a poorly thought out situation. I am not defending him but I would think if an attorney was contacted he could sue on many different grounds. Everything you said in your comment was right on the money. I will not be watching anymore of their videos. This put a bad taste in the mouth. Thank you for your honesty and smarts.
@@kimbellefleur5322same. i wonder if they took any accountability for this. it sucks so much because of how big this channel is
Who gives af??? I sure in hell don't! his wife should have been of a wife to him and kept up with him to make sure he wasn't doing illegal shit! The safety for our children is the ones at risk! so if I have to start making these type of video and i have to give my life for the safety of our children than so be it! I would rather die knowing children are safe from creeps like this predator... stop trying to justify these predators going after children??? Do you have Children??? and I'm being serious with this??? if so how old? any girls??? How would you feel some predator contacted your 13 year old daughter for fucking sex??? and actually got his way with your daughter would you care then that his wife was contacted? idgaf I'm fed up with these predators there is no reason why they need to go after children and idiots like you whos trying to justify it isn't helping the case oh shouldn't have contacted his wife. the wife needs to know shes married to a predator...
Honestly I respect you guys for catching predators and protecting people from disgusting men but this was poorly handled His wife was crying and was threatening to hurt herself and all you guys did was scream at her. Not Okay. You guys aren’t in the right your in the wrong also. Know better
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Honestly a little disgusted at that part of it. What if instead of "i''m coming down" they heard a gunshot? Wildly irresponsible. Call the non-emergency line (because it's not an emergency) and go to that site they sent you to. They have the proof, use appropriate channels.
@@MarsBarszs you're joking about the website thing right? The police and so called authorities would not have done shit. It's already sad that third party journalists have to do half their job for them.
@memory176 I agree
@@davidfuentes4455 no that is a legit world wide system for that sort of thing and i had a friends daughter that was being targeted by some guy 3 times her age and when both myself and her father called to report what was going on due to us noticing the messages due to the way his server is setup when im around his place for an week long online gaming thing we do a few times a yr we were told to go to that website to fill in all the info and that they would look into it but tell us nothing that went on during that process we managed to get help from the police in person though as i direct called my cousin that is in the force and passed her all the related info personally and she made sure something was done so all i can say is get to know a officer really well and that you know you can trust to do the right thing and it will be done
Terrible how this was handled , even though these people deserve the worst. This was a hard watch
they legit almost got her wife killed, how the fuck did they think calling her to scream in her face that her HUSBAND with whom she has CHILDREN is a paedo? Besides the fact that alarm bells should've rung when she started driving while clearly having a breakdown on the phone, the way they broke the news by itself was so blunt and traumatic that it could've pushed someone to just commit suicide. It does happen, more often than you would think.
I'll state the obvious - Martin deserves to go to jail. Straigh-up. But they had no right to illegally detain and verbally abuse him for hours, and i am not an expert on american law but in my country they'd get in A LOT of trouble for that, regardless of whether or not the predator is found guilty. And legally they also had absolutely no buisness telling the wife; besides the fact her husband hadn't been convicted yet, there could've been some very bad consequences.
The intention was good, but this video is an essay in why people shouldn't try to get justice by themselves and the consequences of unqualified attempts at law-enforcing. The police is right: how did you do this? How do we know this isn't a setup? Oh, you'll send me the screenshots, right, no one has ever faked that kind of stuff, right? After everything is accounted for, there is no 13 year old, only a girl committing a crime herself by lying about her age that says she has been sexting with a man via an anonimous messaging app.
This was a shitshow. The parts where martin talks to his wife on the phone are just heartbreaking. They made everything much more painful and traumatic than it had to be.
@@navaryn2938 couldn’t have said this better myself.. so true
Still watched though
The wife was treated like she was responsible for him being a pedo.
Frighteningly, there's a claimed "much longer extended version" of this on their website or whatever...you know for those who want to watch more berating and yelling at the guy; more torture of his family over the phone; and more stand-offish, confrontational, and uncooperative behaviour with the cops, I guess? It's hard to say this becase you definitely want scumbags like peddos caught and prosecuted, but I hope these amateur-hour group of yahoos here does no more of these YT vids.
This was heartbreaking. I am so sorry to the wife and children.
I’m just so pissed about Ashton’s attitude on the way he cussed at the predator and the emergency calls, honestly you gotta deal with it the way you had handle this situation and yes this predator should be in jail but my prayers go to the innocent family. You guys are great content but you need to learn how to handle the situation properly like your videos.
the cops did a bad job though
It always bothers me when they (most predator catchers) reveal to a spouse what’s going on, and just because the spouse isn’t immediately torn up and distraught they’ll say “well she doesn’t even care!!” Trying to put this otherwise innocent party on blast. Like no guys, that’s called denial. Anyone who trusts their significant other will feel that exact way when something like that is dropped on them. Anger and acceptance come later, but initial denial is perfectly okay.
No, she told them that he had already downloaded dating apps by “mistake”, she then said “it all makes sense now”. In her mind, it’s OK for other bad guys to be exposed for trying to tape kids, just not “her” husband.
The wife needs some serious parenting lessons, you don’t announce such horrific things to your own children in such a manner. She just started screaming to her teenagers that their dad was a pedophile. Being a teacher, she should know to sit with a counselor to explain this to them. She tried to flip everything as if Trilogy Media was to blame. She told the team that her husband had downloaded dating apps by “mistake”, she then said “it all makes sense now”. In her mind, it’s OK for other bad guys to be exposed for trying to R-word kids, just not “her” husband. I wonder if he ever did anything to his own children? 50 bucks says she’s still with him. Awful police work, Please tell me he went to prison! People always try to point the finger at others instead of pointing the finger at the villain; her husband. Thank you trilogy media for sharing his face so we can keep our children safe if we see him, and now we know what type of teacher she is, the kind that would rather save face, than protect children.
@@HelloFall You don't know a damn thing but you certainly know how to judge people that you don't know anything about
I’m baffled at how these cops are so nonchalant about the entire situation… ITS A CHILD PREDATOR!!!!
They are there to arrest, not give opinions.
PEDOPHILES
CHILD MOLESTERS
CHILD PREDATOR IS TO LIGHT
A lot of cops are pedo’s too
Tell me, what are they supposed to say? They probably deal with things like this often
Oh yeah, I'd rather have cops that cant control their emotions! 👍
I have no sympathy for him, he’s an awful predator. But his wife needed to be informed by the proper authorities. You have to remember his wife and son are a victim in this.
Considering that the cops took an hour to show up. They were not going to tell her.
An absolute failure from these so called cops.
Hey guys I normally enjoy your videos. This one was rough. You should really consider blurring out the next person’s face/name…etc. The guy’s wife and son are innocent victims that are going to suffer a lot. I know this guy made his decision, but the wife and son would not have to suffer 90% of the humiliation and possible bullying if this guy’s identity wasn’t released to us. I pray for them!
100 percent agree. There was absolutely no need to call the wife. She would have found out. If she self deleted her blood would be on their hands! Call the cops let them decide what to do, but don’t go being vigilantes taking the law into your own hands. The wife was in her home not some public place. She has the right to privacy. Not to be called and humiliated online. Their hateful attitude towards this man and need to hurt him, ended up hurting his family more
It’s sad, but with predators and people who have the audacity to be extremely abusive, humiliation and stronger measures are the only way to stop them and others as an example. It’s just too easy for them bc they lack the proper empathy for others only caring about how they themselves will be affected. Getting others involved helps prevent cases
I agree-this can also get tricky legally, if you don’t blur out his face, you’re immediately labeling him as guilty (which of course he is), but in the court he still has a right to a trial, innocent until proven guilty
Case will end up taking TM to court
calling his wife im pretty sure was a violation on several levels
he hasnt technically done anything wrong - lewd messages to a minor that isnt a minor & WERE GOING TO YOUR HOUSE was bang out of order
jesus if you got done for what you wrote on the internet ID HAVE A DEATH SENTENCE
100% agree
I've watched you guys for a while. You are always very emotional and let the situation get way out of control. I am finally commenting on this because this time it was ridiculous. From the way you approached Martin, to the way you communicated with law enforcement, to the way you talked to the wife, you were very unprofessional. Bordering on childish, frankly. You need to understand that the police handle a lot of different cases all the time and don't just sit on stand-by, waiting for your call to step in. You should inform them prior to that and coordinate it with them, so it goes smoothly. Don't call them, yell at them, and when they show up, talk down to them.
I think you have a lot of potential, but I'm not seeing you working on your professionalism. Please drop the "fucking" this, "fucking" that.
To be honest and watching this role out, I'm surprised they didn't hit the guy. They were angry and for good reason. The police department clearly didn't care to send someone so Ashton got on the phone, because sometimes you have to be blunt and use your words to be heard and taken seriously. Shame on you for your attitude and picking on the way they were speaking, just because they were upset with the whole situation. Sometimes things get heated and emotions run high. Art said it beautifully when he said where he comes from, the guy would be killed by the community. That because he lives in the U.S he's safe. So instead of criticising them for their emotional states and swearing, maybe congratulate them for catching a serious predator who isn't going to be hurting any CHILDREN any time soon.
So to everyone involved in this operation to catch this child predator, I say thank you, much love from Queensland Australia 💜
I think they just needed more experience on these types of videos.
Child predators are lucky this is all they get.
@SolarAB Exactly my thoughts too. What they do for victims is admirable I just think it would be better received if they could reign in their emotions. When they get hyper and talk over each other and demand to be heard it puts the victims off (as seen in a number of their encounters). I think they could be more effective if they had someone calm and with diplomacy skills to be the first point of contact with any victims to help set up good lines of communication before introducing them into the conversation. It was horrible that in this situation they felt the need to contact his wife. Imagine she did have a heart attack or worse, took her own life. You have to weigh people's wellbeing over the entertainment factor. Love your enthusiasm Ash and Art just think it would be in your best interests to learn how to tone down the adrenaline. Peace.
Agreed. They should stick to catching refund scammers. What I’d that poor woman slashed her veins?
Trilogy, I love your content but I'd appreciate it if you could consult a lawyer and/or a psychologist before dealing with sensitive cases like this.
nope the yt guys that try to do this is the best becouse thats how the public will react and bring more people to shit
wtf karen
@@gamerulrafihd55 it's spelled WHITE..also that made no sense at all
I'm fucking angry. I can't watch it. It's like these cretins are blanketing the real pedos with this fucking nonsense. This dude isn't a pedo AT ALL. He's just some lonely slob and they want to destroy his fucking life for what? TH-cam hits? Likes? The fuck. They have NO CLUE how actual victims feel seeing this. It simply compounds how powerless we feel and really does make me think "trilogy media" are just part of the international pedo ring, covering it all up. Go find the real deal on the deep web and try find the CULTS behind it all.
Yes, a victim of many years of abuse is calling this bullshit. Absolute rubbish. A real victim doesn't feel any justice is done here at all. The real victim sees this nonsense as a cheap as fuck money grab or a cover for the ACTUAL bs going on in the deep web, the dark web or w/e you want to call it. Grr. Unsubbed and I'd slap all involved if I could.
they did everything by the book
Getting the wife and kids involved was not the way to go.
The wife shouldn't know who she's laying next to??
These people aren’t law enforcement or in any way entitled or equipped to give the news to the wife.
@@rayneloves no with a phone call with minor children present. swearing at the wife was awful. the bad treatment of the police dose not help the goal either. This was the worst video I have seen regarding this type of intervention.
@@rayneloves I am sure that the person meant to say that it could be handled better!
The lack of empathy u guys had for the wife is insane. There was NO need to involve her at all. U tried to paint her as a predator as well, yelled at her n didn’t understand WHY she was confused?
I am excepting some sort of an explanation for this disgusting behavior. U can not ignore the response to this video.
Only the decoy girl was kind to her yeah... She said at the end if you need help you can contact me or something and she was kind.
Whereas the russian dude was dumb and reckless to her as she has any fault at all..
I don't mind tough guys but he acted dumb and childish, inflatef ego
Yeah, these guys ran out of content to produce so they baited old men into talking to them. Then, they called the police & whined to them that they didn’t show up when they didn’t break any laws. You grown men pretending to be a child for content isn’t worthy of wasting police resources.
@@oldmanjord70622 you're a moron. They catched a pedo. The police should care but they don't
@@elite3221 Are these two grown men children ? No lol. There never was any 13yr old, so he isn’t a pedophile. It’s just cheap content baiting clearly mentally ill people into these scenarios. There’s no evidence these two didn’t entirely seek this guy out just to have someone they could label a pedo.
@@oldmanjord7062, it doesn’t matter if he did anything sexual. He was about to do something, and this can be proven in the messages and how he responded when he saw her. That’s like not arresting someone with the intention to kill because they got caught by someone else.
Hell no.. this is awful. Maybe it's because I'm European that I'm absolutely disgusted by the way this is done but man.. why guys? What did the wife do, what did the kid do to deserve this. I mean, going after this guy sure but calling his wife like you did putting HER on the spot? Her 15 yo daughter having to take care of her collapsing mother at home..wtf!? Simply saying "we're here for you" is absolutely ridiculous.
It would of happened one way or another but I do think that way was not the best
@@nerroworks7562 chances are it would have been the authorities who wouldn't have villianized her.
This was just not the right way to go about it
The more money they make from this, the more they will do it, and the more views and comments they get from this, the more money they'll make, therefore the more commenters they'll trigger like you, the more money they'll make. So now you're left with 1 question "Would I rather them save more kids doing this, or not, because I get offended by the way they're (actually saving kids)?
@@LavaCreeperPeople they aren't even saving kids, this whole video is a big fuck-you to any chance the police would have to get the dude arrested, the defence lawyer would have a field day with it. but you don't care about that, do you? you just like the taste of TM's ass.
This situation was handled absolutely terribly with the wife and child. Shame on you all for how this was handled. You guys need some sort of training because this was a train wreck
Easy for you to say when it didn’t happen to uou
@@vingytran9674 nono I get it, the guy was facing the consecuences of HIS actions and was getting (rightfully) humilliated, but the wife didn't need any of that attitude the guy was getting.
The wife could had really killed herself and that wouldn't be only this guys fault but the whole team
100%
The wife called TM back making demands and defending her pedophile husband and calling Ashton name's! So he's not aloud to defend himself when they exposed her husband for what he is?!
Can’t even count on the law 38:19 🤦♀️
This was handled very unprofessionally. I’m glad you confronted the individual. However, let the cops handle this after a conversation with him.
The same pigs that didn't want to show up 3 times?
The same lies that wanted to confiscate every cell phone which they have no right to
Agreed. This is the first video I have ever seen from this channel.. honestly not a good first impression. However yes I'm glad he was caught but families (unless they are enabling) should be treated with respect n sensitivity.
The cops weren’t available, and when they were they said they wouldn’t arrest anyone
The cops literally have been refusing. That man is a child predator. The cops were made well aware of this on numerous occasions. Say what you will about how they handled this, the cops in this case handled it worse.
@@J.PC.Designs maybe because it's California and the police are understaffed due to the racist morons of BLM calling for defunding the police 3 years ago.
This is disturbing the wife should’ve never been called by them. Authorities should’ve been the ones to tell her.
Aw boo hoo. She was gonna find out anyways
Yeah. Poor guy. He is not being arrested by them so he has no rights, and doesn't deserve any. This is a pedophile's account folks, obviously.
True
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE you people are so heartless
They didn't hurt that guy but they hurt his innocent family for a video such a cheap people, and they said his wife deserves it cause she's with him. That triggered me so bad
This guy is so scary. He puts on this pitiful act, but then he snaps out of anger like a whole different person. I wonder how many victims he has.
Hi would you like to get some pizza someday
Lol@@killjoyclown
LOL nice move on removing comments that you don't like.
I was gonna say. I remember all the hate comments.
What a complete mess this was. I love the work on the scammers, but this is WAY out of their league and it is going to cause some massive issues. It was handled poorly and someone is going to get hurt here. But I mean how else do you attempt to boost your business and line your pockets right? Stick to what you're good at. I appreciate you stopped this loser, but leave it at that.
Im really sad for the wife. The way she was handled is deplorable. You are correct in saying that they were way out of their league. I was confused when I saw this kind of video on their channel. I thought maybe they were posting for someone else. It is so bizarre that they would do something like this. Itn is obvious that they are NOT qualified. The wife was traumatized ! Who knows what kind of mental crisis the 14 yr old daughter is going through now. These careless foolish young men do not have the skills to handle anything like this! They were reckless . They played with innocent peoples lives and for what? VIEWS? CLICKS?
How about you educate everyone on how you are fighting child predators. Oh you're not? Not surprised. They actually did exactly what they should have and were very thorough. I look for predators online AND I've had extensive training in human trafficking. I have a cell number of a detective I work with AND have connected with Missing and Exploited Children for reporting as well. Until you have experience doing something about these predators, shut up.
@@gigiis526, it's not a matter of what they did it for: it's a matter of how. You may argue they did this for views and clicks, but they need these to execute these sorts of operations. I agree, but there's more to the situation than shown in the video. I'd rather have them do the job than no one. They even tried to get the police but they ignored their calls (sure they had a pottymouth but still), leaving it up to them. Was it successful? Yes and no: yes because he got the shame and the expose and no because he didn't get arrested (according to the video) and they screwed up.
Absolutely. The wife was treated as another criminal. I'm glad this didnt end in tragedy
Sorry but you guys have become vigilantes. You are punishing these predators on line. I agree that they need to be punished but it is not your place to do it. You have destroyed this :predators life and family. Sure, he's a creep, but what gives you the right to try and convict him publicly. I can see a lawsuit coming your way.
Glad the child predator was caught and put on blast, but the way they handled it with the wife/family is low key bullying and extremely unprofessional. They should’ve waited for a police officer to make that call as the wife/family are also victims 🤦🏻♀️
At 59:35 he tries to monetize the uncut conversation with the wife smh. This clown just wants views
Sadly, I don't think the wife would've found out, since SDPD were offended that someone else was cleaning up the streets and did everything they could to ignore this whole situation.
Yes we all agree, there was no need to further harm him by involving his wife his family, their ratings now is the gutter causing harm to his innocent family, leaving the police to deal with the matter, no ugly fans, and European Tara's bulba joking his ugly lanky remarks was neither here or there, They are looking for ratings , these gutter snipers.
@@robq4391 wanna know how to fix all of that? Don't meet a minor for illicit acts.
These guys would be hanging out at a mall otherwise.
They are monetizing a situation they've helped to create.
You never coordinated this "sting operation" with law enforcement, yet you complain and insult them when you find it difficult to get them there. Very professional. You also threaten to ruin this guy's life and say that his balls should be cut off, and then force him to speak to his wife and encourage her to come along to the park with her daughter because "she needs to see". It also looked like you allowed one of his kids to read through some of the chat history after they got there. Then you include a clip at the end where you're telling his wife it's all going public whether she likes it or not. How many people did you verbally, emotionally, and psychologically abuse during this "noble" pursuit?
If you want to do it properly, work with local law enforcement and work within their guidelines and actually coordinate with them. If you can't do that, then I suggest you don't do it at all.
Thank you I wasn't brave enough to write this out but this is exactly how I felt when watching the video
Extremely well worded, couldn’t agree more. I’m extremely disappointed in this channel.
Completely agree, it feels so sadistic and wrong even though the guy did this. It was done so wrong, always ALWAYS work with law enforcement to get this done properly
They def lost me as a long time subscriber. This video disturbed me on so many levels. I 100% agree with getting the chomos off the streets, but this was horribly done.
Aaron I agree 100% with all you said......Everything Trilogy said to this guy and his family I think could be used in a court of law against Trilogy. I agree to get these creeps off the streets, but according to law, your innocent until proven guilty in court. I know the evidence is here to show him guilty....but WOW, the way Trilogy talked to the police dispatch, to the officers....and like you said, even to the suspect....Trilogy....you guys have good intent to rid the streets of people like this, but its not gonna happen the way your doing it here. I don't care how many arrests this girl has to her credit.....you guy's are in over your heads, and could possibly get jail time for yourselves!!! Plus sued for everything you own.....I think an unsubscribe to you is in order.......threats to the guy and his family!!!??? Criminal or not have some respect for the people involved...I think this should be your last deal with this sort of investigation....
24:02 with elon musk from the mars is still stuck in my head months after watching
A few things I feel should maybe be different if you guys decide to try something like this again.
-I'd maybe try to work more directly with local law enforcement if you can to avoid the problems that you had in this video with getting people on the scene. Let them know when you're doing your thing and send in your evidence in advance so they can have people ready for you. Basically everything the cop told you to do because this is obviously not affective unless the only goal was to get views but I think y'all are better than that.
-I'd also probably call the cops earlier. Y'all shouting at this dude is good content and probably pretty cathartic but super unproductive at the end of the day.
-Lastly I'd let law enforcement talk to the creepers family because y'all did not handle that well at all and absolutely blew that situation up in a way that really did not need to happen or be published on the internet. Honestly pretty fucking gross that y'all actually went and published the worst day of that woman's life on your channel for what? because you thought it'd be good for views? Genuinely pretty disappointed in y'all for that. The more I think about it the worse I feel. Like, I cannot emphasise how much y'all fucked up by calling his wife and putting her through all of this like y'all have no idea wtf you're doing please don't do that shit again if you do more videos like this it's not worth it.
Other than that this was a pretty good video. I'd like to see you guys do better.
I didn't come away from this video feeling good. I didn't even come away feeling proud that you guys had done a good job. Honestly if you didn't go through with putting all of the wife's horrible fucking day on the internet I probably would've felt a lot better but now I just feel like y'all went out of your way to make this as hard as possible for her because you just kept pushing and pushing telling her to come to where you were so you could film her and get her reaction it felt GROSS. I'm sure it's not what you were intending but like I don't know what else you thought was going to happen! Please do better. I know you guys are better than this and I hate feeling like y'all just made this way worse than it had to be because you HAD to do it all yourselves.
I respect these guys for what they do but they really need to consider how they approach these situations. It feels amateur, dramatized and escalated for entertainment. I just think they are led by their emotions and adrenaline more than is useful for their work. They can accomplish the same thing without putting innocent family members darkest times of their lives on the internet.
Yes, it felt more focussed on getting TH-cam clout than proper justice.
This was hilarious! Yeah it could've went down a little better but dang, what a curve ball on the police.
I couldnt agree more. The way they handled it gave me a horrible feeling. Yes, the goal is great, but the way they went about it was appalling.
I'm lost for words to comment exactly how catastrophically this was handled by Trilogy Media.
agreed.
Exactly and how that dude thought he was so tough guy while talking to the cops. Clearly his wife probably thinks her husband was setup in a trap
I liked trilogy media’s involvement with the glitter bomb scam call center videos they do with Jim browning and mark rober. When I saw they made a video similar to a Chris Hansen episode, I thought it’d be interesting…
…holy shit this was fucking atrocious. Their hearts were in the right place but they fucked up in so many different areas I lost count. And the wife threatening suicide and breaking down over the phone was NOT something that belongs on TH-cam. THEY DIDNT EVEN BLUR HER FACE. As much as I like trilogy media, holy shit they need to work on so many different things because this was so awfully done, they made me feel bad FOR THE PEDOPHILE. SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT CHRIS HANSEN BUT AT LEAST HE DIDNT MAKE ME FEEL BAD FOR SCUM.
Not only are they going to be sued by the wife, they're going to be the direct reason this asshat receives no punishment for this.
That cali for you d a don’t care
Omg this is a deep video. I hope his wife and family are ok. It's not their fault he is a monster. Thank you trilogy media for bringing this to our attention. God bless you trilogy media. The police are absolutely crap I am horrified with how they acted. I hope they get fired.
I have a feeling they are not really caring about this as to how they seemed to be acting in the last call snippet we see. Pathetic
you mean the wife that was threating and blaming trilogy at the end of the vid, anyone that follow any of the teams like Cᴏʟᴏʀᴀᴅᴏ Pᴇᴅ Pᴀᴛʀᴏʟ see this all the time the familys they will defend the creaps blaming it on everyone else but the family member that actually doing the crime
yeah I know I love this type of video I'm just scared they might want to get into the dark business which is something to not get into believe me. It's what Luxury Dark is doing so yeah it would be scary stuff. and yes this guy should be scared cause they have TH-cam and TrilogyMedia+ so yeah people will be watching.
@@richd9646 police officers are 5x more likely to be a child rapist than the average person.
@@maddermax74 Appearantly you are not aware of the stages of grief. Her life has been turned upside down. It's unfortunate but she is just as much as a victim aswell. I don't agree with her actions but I fully understand them. The interaction with the police was the second worst crime committed here. There lack of respect and urgency was disgusting.
For everyone saying they handled it badly. The COPS response time was handled badly , if they would’ve gotten to the crime scene urgently that phone call to the family would’ve never happened.
While I appreciate getting one more POS off the street, Trilogy should have done this a bit differently. They should have spoken with someone from the local PD first to make them aware, and went through proper channels. They also should have informed the wife in a much more supportive manner. They should have made sure she had support and some distance from the children, so she could think about the best way to protect them emotionally. There is a chance this sicko will walk due to the way this went down.
There are plenty of vigilantes who do this. I watch TM for the call center busts. This isn't their gig and I hope it's a one-off.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Calling the wife like that was pretty messed up, the moment she threatened suicide the dynamic should have changed immediately. Surely they knew this would rock her world and she suffers from anxiety already. There's ways professionals introduce this information and screaming at the family isn't it.
Also, the argument with the wife on the phone, from the short snippet I saw, seemed pretty disrespectful. Like catch the scumbag, but when the family, especially the wife who is a public educator, asks to not have the video posted it's probably because she could lose her job too.
It's kind of profiteering from the entire family's shock and suffering
So soft. America is crumbling. How should they have gone about it??? Besides letting the cops know what they were planning I do agree on but I don't understand how they could have done this any different??
@@adamwhite8555 we're not being soft, the wife literally screamed "I'm going to kill myself", has anxiety and probably depression, while 4 people are yelling at her on the phone. Her entire life is turned upside down, her kids are already going to therapy, and their daughter is a bit older than the alleged 13 year old.
80% of suicides are impulsive, split second decisions. They knew that calling the wife would have been a gong show, this is why when law enforcement agencies call the family about these matters they have a single dedicated person who speaks to the family in a calm, collected manner, usually without the accused in the background. They should have done that, it's so much better than having a crying wife, screaming that she's going to kill herself, driving down the highway, with her kids in the car, and 4 people and her husband yelling at her on the phone.
All it would have taken is some consideration for the family and kids who's lives are going to be overturned this POS's actions
@@heeeydevon8262 They even said that the wife had heart issues too, and suicide is serious, ngl they could've handled it better
That broke my heart hearing his daughter’s “What?!” Honestly cried watching this. 😔😢
Fr 😔
Wait what happened to the daughter I thought he only had a son???
I know right 😭😭
Yeah that is what got me. You could hear in her voice from just that one word her entire world just shattered.
@@JabrenHarris98I think he has a son and a daughter
So basically after reviewing this video in detail:
1. Falsifying/exaggerating police report to elicit a faster police response. 2. Endangering the innocent wife and children of the alleged suspect. 3. Possible assault (34:52). 4. Defamation (if there are no official charges and no conviction in court, then calling and branding someone a child predator or child molester is at best defamation). 5. Unwillingness to turn in evidence in a timely manner where it can’t be construed as trying to tamper and breaking the chain of custody so they’re useless in any court proceedings and inadmissible. 6. obstruction of police investigation. 7. Threats and intimidation made to the wife. 8. while he could allegedly be guilty of what you accuse him of, you guys keep pushing him to incriminate himself under bullying and intimidation tactics which is actually a violation of the law (the right to remain silent/the right against self-incrimination). 9. Entrapment. 10. Doxxing. 11. A tinge of some racism when a Spanish speaker is being intimidated to speak English to his Spanish-speaking wife. 12. Being unnecessarily hostile to the response when police were just acting based on the information provided to them by dispatch of a non-emergency situation and when they do get there, you withhold evidence that they needed to get the suspect charged of what he’s being accused of. 13. You guys have no power and authority to detain someone and is called kidnapping to do so.
These are what defense lawyers would be looking out for.
I'm no lawyer but this is some ego crap disgusting I hope to hell karma comes around.
I agree with this!
I've been watching their videos for a long time & this was quite shocking to watch, it was very unprofessional to behave that way.
And all the morons here cheering them on never heard of the constitution. You want these pedos to be locked up and prosecuted? Don’t do these catches for TH-cam Fame. Such a disservice to the victims
@@kikicraige941 If the family hire a good lawyer, Triology is done. they have so many grounds to sue him. Triology made 100 mistakes
@@NuMuzikZYX I really hope they do this was so unprofessional.
I really hope Art and Ashton read the comments criticizing the way they handled this, I hate to see bad stuff get in the way of good deeds. I admire what they've done here, but it can't 100% excuse the flaws that were here. Trilogy Media, please don't take the comments criticizing the way you handled this as "hate" or "ignoring the good we did", take them as feedback and what you can do better in the future.
Plelase I admire what you guys are doing especially to protect our children take notes mistakes are for all to learn so we can become. PERFECT in our lives I sincerely would like to see you guys grow in your profession
Ashton is full of Pride and doesn’t care about your comments nor dose he listen to the comments he’s ears are closed and his heart is harden so he can’t understand us.
They read the comments all right, but absorbed nothing from them.
The issue is when such "mistakes" create victims along the way of "doing better in the future"....
They read the comments but it appears Ash’s ego doesn’t want to accept any criticism
Disliked. You guys are sadistic.. the way you talked to his wife is Inhumane. She was suffering and you were enjoying.
Great job on this! I do have a couple of criticisms though about the treatment of him and his family. Let me start by saying that i HATE these scum bags with every fiber of my being! You had him out-numbered, out-smarted and out-gunned which took his ability to fight away, and you also had every last bit of info on him and his family so he had nowhere to run. As expected, he curled into a ball and wished the world away… which was nice to see! The authorities should have turned up at this point and moved everyone on imho.
The way Ashton spoke in the message to his wife was disrespectful and placed her at the same level of hatred as him which was entirely unfair. Courtney spoke much better to har!
The way this was dealt with will have caused even more trauma and hurt to his wife and kids than necessary and that just doesn’t sit right with me. You’re hurting his innocent family just to get back at him.
His only option once curled up was to commit suicide, which wouldnt punish him enough. You also risked the lives of his wife who showed signs of suicidal thoughts and his kids who were with her. If the police were the ones who informed the family, they would have had much more support in place for them.
Just my 2cents…
There's also a danger that when prosecuted, his defence lawyers would jump all over this video. Issues of duress, entrapment, the right to a fair trial...even intentional infliction of emotional distress on the family. It could mean the difference between a verdict of guilty and not guilty. Anyone involved in ped0 hunting should at least seek legal advice first.
You are correct. Trilogy should have done this a bit differently. They should have spoken with someone from the local PD first to make them aware, and went through proper channels. They also should have informed the wife in a much more supportive manner. They should have made sure she had support and some distance from the children, so she could think about the best way to protect them emotionally.
Yeah Ashton is big for his britches. Lets his alligator mouth outrun his hummingbird a$$.
I understand the rage, but direct it toward the pred. Everyone else is great though. The production value is TOP NOTCH. Ashton could dial it back just a skoche.
Art gets a bit way ahead of himself as well and is not know for being able to compose himself well and gets too excited. He starts talking really fast in “no offense but his broken English” and jumps the story around cause he talks just too fast and is too excited in which makes like you said the wife or somebody confused and freak out worse, or as seen in other videos makes the cops confused or really irritated.
Other than that as you stated a majority of the other ways the conduct is pretty good
They almost sounded like they were getting "enjoyment" in rubbing this dude's nose in his mistake. Like Art and Ashton sounded like they were almost getting off on this. They came off more like trolls on Reddit than actual journalists.
Guys, you do a good job but you went too far on some things here and showed your clear immaturity. I will mention just one.
The man's daughter is 14 years old, you should not be telling the mother to bring her minor child into this situation, for the obvious risk to her mental health.
You should stick to gathering evidence and reporting the findings to the authorities and let professionals do their work, be that the police, child services, psychologists, etc., or risk cause great damage.
Maybe I missed it but I think it was the mom who made that decision
💯💯💯
@@diegoc3749 43:50
@@diegoc3749 yeah, but it was a split second decision. There's ways that professionals introduce this information to the family and having 4 people and the husband yelling at them about what a POS they are, then asking them to drive down and see it unfold while they're screaming "I'm going to kill myself" isn't it
If he had listened to the head on his shoulders he wouldn't be in this situation instead to the head with the numnuts either side
Gonna get a lot of hate for this but this was poorly done. You should not scream and shout at the person caught, it could always get spun around in court, let alone cause great stress to the suspect. (People in great stress do even more stupid stuff and could inflict harm on your crew.) Also calling the suspects' loved one and not letting the police deal with it was not a good idea since she threatened to kill herself with no officers at her home to stop her. Also excessive profanity on the 911 dispatch is a great way of getting your call skipped.
Edit: The intentions are obviously good and noble but please be more careful next time and plan it out better instead of being overrly dramatic for the video.
Agreed, this is why To Catch a Predator got canned when one of the predators committed suicide.
YEESS!! nothing will happen with this. you traumatized the family for his actions, nothing will happen. things like this is damaging to the cases.
Yeah this definitely wasn't done well I respect the cause but this was not the way you go about it and shouldn't be too surprised if much isn't done about it. I feel these guys are much better with the Scammer take downs as they seem to have a much greater upper hand with that (Shout out to Jim Browning), this however requires a lot more care and delicacy especially with the family.
I don't think the American courts really care about the duress of the suspect, the proof from the phone would be enough even if they threw out all the confession as "inadmissible under duress"
Sucks for the woman but they aren't maker her commit the self not alive anymore, that's on the police to attend if instructed or her to detect her husband first, the exact same situation could have played out without them if she found his phone the day before.
In the UK anyway swearing won't get you cut off from 999, the call handlers do have rules but Police will try to attend even if it is flagged as a hoax call, swearing is actually one of the signs you are not in control and makes it more likely for a Police response. For example if they hear "I'm going to fucking kill her." being shouted angrily in the background they are going to attend probably faster than if someone really calmly rings up and they hear, "Yeah, I'm going to kill her." said casually. Though both will get a response.
Again not sure about America, that place is a shithole.
Yeah I think the way you handled this is a disgrace, dragging the family into it. It's shameful what the husband is doing but shameful how you handled it.
0:50 This is do dark 😭😭
courtney doesn’t even look like a teenager she looks 30 I can’t believe these idiots don’t leave immediately after seeing her 😂😂😂
online she can pass for underage online by using makeup but when you meet her you wlll be like she is lying and thats what the predators probably think. still no excuse tho
There's no excuse in regards to that, given he's been talking dirty to her, knowing she's 13, for like a month.
She looks 50 to me
She looks like the band chick in American Pie
Clearly not 13
@@gregstevens9957 😆 she does dude
You guys need to know boundaries, you are not law enforcement and you are not being paid by the government therefore you do not earn a pass to break laws. I get predators are one of the most if not the worst people to exist in the entire world but you guys especially, Ashton, started to make the situation worse. You basically threatened him when you said that if you were in a different country you would be dead by now, and stalking is a crime, finding out where this guy lives and his wife's phone number is odd for a regular group of people to do. Confronting his wife was absurd too, that type of information is life changing, and then continuing by saying "bring your kid here too they need to see this".. imagine how traumatic that is to see as a child. Leave that stuff to law enforcement next time, I love what ya'll do but this episoe pushed the limits.
Yeah this stuff is weird. I really enjoy the others like CPP and such. Something feels off about this channel.
@@LordSadCat In previous videos they admit to literally investigating these predator's to find their address and such.. I find it weird cause at the end of the day these are regular people....
@@kenmahyu idk about regular lol.
I can kinda get finding details of his family only to use it against him, like in this video when they mention that it’s vile that he preys on kids the same age as the kids his wife teaches
What I don’t support is showing the wife’s *full phone number*, job, and her name all while openly talking about their location and how close the house is from the park, that’s tantamount to doxxing since her information could be found easily and the bad light they painted her in at the end could lead people to attempt to harass her - I’ve seen people in the comment section shame her, this was their first sting but they should have known better than to share PII. Courtney at least censors that stuff on her video, but it doesn’t do much since Trilogy openly broadcasted it. Take it from me, that shit fucks you up
@@SB-0129 Yeah I agree with you. They just did not have to get the whole family involved. Why should they suffer for what the dad did on his behalf? If the family was also involved that's an investigation the police have to handle.
I love y’all videos yet as a health care worker, I would love to suggest (for safety reasons) having a psychologist or social worker on your staff for consultation when u confront people and bring their family into such serious intense matters! The things u all do are really serious!!! ❤️
I agree is a good idea, if they don’t already.
Having a social worker on scene is almost always a bad idea
This is a wonderful idea
I agree. Of course it’s a great thing to stop predators, but these guys were poorly prepared. It was just ridiculous. They had no coordination with police and they had the family worried without any way to calm them down.
Fuck that they need to see what kind of assholes they are married too
Telling their partners and getting their kids involved is ridiculous!
would you prefer a pred to be around children YOUNGER than the child they tried to meet up with? Them being his children doesnt change anything, theres many cases where its the parent doing it to their own child
No im against that but ur ruining a whole family. Why involve the children?
@@ThatRandomChannelTRCwhy not?
That wife on the phone broke my heart, that guy literally almost gave her a heart attack.. that poor thing was broken. How tragic, dude should’ve just been a decent human report the child’s account and block it simple.
Not sure how I feel being that surface level. It shouldn’t have gone to the extremes that it went. Confronting him, and having it pre-arranged with the police, sure. Doing everything spontaneous and confronting the wife themselves, and then abusing her at the end, instead of letting the police handle it, no.
That was fooked up to call his wife!!!
From a criminological perspective (at my university) what they achieved was virtually nothing except heartbreak. I wrote a comment just now at the top having received this, from all people, my mum, who likes the scambaits Ash does. The senior sergeant at our university who’s worked on these cases for 15 years claims, as do I, that they’d actually hurt the case despite an effort to be genuine.
Authorities are experts in these fields. It takes YEARS of training. & they almost undid the work others have achieved or attempt to.
What a shame. And how foolish. I wonder what Jim Browning would think. 🤔
Fook the wife all she can think about what’s gonna happen to HERSELF! Nothing about the 13 year old.
That convo should’ve been done in private or by cops they did everything wrong here
Guys, please trust us when we say these negative comments are NOT HATERS. They are commenting so because they genuinely feel you guys can learn and improve. It is from CRITICISM that humans can improve. By being defensive and not accepting of your mistakes, it only seems very childish and immature. We are a fan of what you do. So many people are benefitted by what you do.
So PLEASE understand what the people are trying to say. No one hates you for what you are. Only LOVE
I agree with you.
But turns out the wife is SICK IN THE HEAD for telling her 14-year-old ''daughter'' about this. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT LADY, THE GIRL IS AN ABSOLUTE KID HER MIND AND BODY HASN'T FULLY DEVELOPED YET SHE COULD AND MOST LIKELY WILL BE TRAUMATIZED BY THIS. FOR. A. LIFETIME. Not to mention bringing her to an empty faraway park in midnight to a group of stranger men. And turns out their son is also mentally ill as badly as it hurts me but I am positive she's gonna tell him too :( THIS HURTS ME
@@tmitrs Sad stuff. But the fact is, there are worse people, and there are children who live in worse environments than this. Spreading awareness and being kind is the only thing that we can do ig.
@@liamleclaire Merriam-Webster Dictionary: _" _*_criticism,_*_ noun - the art of evaluating or analyzing works of art or literature"_
Criticism is not 'hate opinion'. That is the public perception as the word is usually used with a negative connotation. That's why the phrase "constructive criticism" is usually used - to make it very clear that throwing shade isn't the intention.
"Constructive criticism" means to critique with the intention of improving whatever you are criticising even though you are showing them their faults. As a properly defined phrase, I'm sorry to let you know that it's not something that you can 'believe' in.
Anyhow, there is no way to let a completely defensive person know about their faults. To be able to improve is to be able to be a bit vulnerable, and open to accepting and working on their mistakes.
(Why did I explain this much lol. I hope you get something out of this. I should prolly write for Medium or maybe write a book haha)
@@Muhammed.Yaseen dictionary: "the analysis and judgment of the merits and faults of a literary or artistic work." Key word: JUDGMENT
I respect wanting to catch this creep. But you need to go about it a different way if you ever decide to do it again. It’s common knowledge that handling situations like this can often lead to predators getting away
They get away all the time, now it's forever on the internet
The purpose it is to shame and deter, a prosecution is a bonus. The young woman involved knows what she’s doing from a legal and safety point of view. I didn’t like that they pulled the wife and kids in. This is going to be hard enough on them, doing it this way was traumatic.
@@karenneill9109, agreed. As for the wife and kids: what really can be done about this? Sure, it was a wrong thing to do, but it's better than the wife not knowing and being blanked, knowing what cops are like nowadays (and the fact they ignored these phone calls, understandable-ish as they have pottymouths, proves this).
@@mr_hashbrown Really, the cops should have taken over and arrested this guy. His wife should have been informed by the cops, and in private. Since the cops were clearly useless is this situation, it kinda got out of hand. They should have gotten the kids out of there, and there should have been zero footage of them, even with their faces blurred, their friends will recognize them.
@@karenneill9109, precisely. And we don’t need a paywall to uncensor this.
These people so obviously don't care about the wife or kids. They only want them coming to confront him for content, they do all of this for content. Its kinda sickening tbh, say what you want about them catching predators but they ain't doing it for free. Courtney said it herself, I do this for a living.
yeah like why feel the need to record his wife’s reaction? that’s fucked up it’s really cruel and especially the way they went about it. that kinda proved to me that these guys are mainly in it for the views and money
Frankly, I won't be surprised if you are sued for this debacle and this POS gets away with it.
Right? Poorly done. TM, do better.
I would love to see it happen. Justice for the family that didn't need to be targeted by them.
@@DannyBeeVegasu haven’t seen any predator TH-camrs the wife has to know so she can get him help or watch her children saying not to involve them is Brain dead
@@ryanhall9775 it’s not their place to involve the wife, and the first thing the wife said was “I’m gonna kill myself” like what if she actually did, or what if she went off the road with her kids in the car, they could’ve done a lot more harm then good. And then they yelled at her to promote their premium service and had the balls to call it “spicy phone calls”
They definitely need to be held accountable for this. That is exactly why I am here. I am hoping a qualified attorney in the area contacts the wife concerning a lawsuit.
Got to be honest, antagonizing the wife who had no idea what was going on and was just as much a victim snd then pay walling phone calls with her to your website is very scummy
No it isn’t, she has the right to know immediately
@@atozbikes not from a random from a unknown number who berates her
@@atozbikes No, Law Enforcement could have told her but no you have TM here thinking there fucking gods plus she does not even know who TM are imagine you getting a call WHILE "DRIVING" Then saying I will kill myself then Ash Screaming to here and saying this at 59:46 To the wife is deplorable.
@@iwannapo4848 those are the risks involved in marrying a peedophyle.. and they don’t play god , they do the work that the Chula Vista Police department has very clearly shown them at they do not want to do
The more money they make from this, the more they will do it, and the more views and comments they get from this, the more money they'll make, therefore the more commenters they'll trigger like you, the more money they'll make. So now you're left with 1 question "Would I rather them save more kids doing this, or not, because I get offended by the way they're (actually saving kids)?
cope lol
That was absolutely reckless doing that with the family.
What would you suggest then?
@@slimybakertvalert the authorities first before starting the meet-up instead of playing vigilante?
@@rambo280863the police swept them off 2-3 times, what do you expect..?
@@rambo280863 because they are oh so cooperative... as we saw here
A professional doing it. Those kids will never get over that. nor will his wife but my heart aches for those kids. They say they are trying to protect kids, what about the ones who were just told all that and have to watch what there mother is going through as shes speeding in there car to get to him... Absolutely handled incorrectly@@slimybakertv
The foreign dude is awesome. God bless that guy . He said the only reason ur alive is cuz it in this beautiful country. 🙏
What a mess. This was handled with such little care for the grieving wife and mother. Asking her to calm down? You should've let the proper authorities deal with telling the family. You were thinking with your emotions and not your brain...absolutely EMBARRASSING. Trying to sympathize with her when you have absolutely no idea about all the emotions she is feeling at that moment was incredibly insensitive. You should've just listened to law enforcement to prevent making a fool out of yourselves on camera. No right to even contact the wife or go to his house and making her come to the park was a horrible move. She clearly never wanted to talk to you guys from the beginning and you kept pushing. Watching you guys yell at her was disappointing, she could've hurt herself or even worse. Embarrasing to see Ashton and Art being so full of themselves during the confrontation; ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSING. You guys were just adding more to the shock factor. All that yelling was completely unnecessary and unprofessional. I'm all for being passionate, but this was next level and embarrassing to watch. I agree that this guy needs to be locked up and that the wife needs to be informed, but I wouldn't want to be informed from someone else other than the proper authorities. Next time, don't even try contacting the predator's family. You messed this one up big time.
I agree so much, they’re could’ve been many ways to avoid this drama but they wanted drama for views
They weren't thinking with emotions so much as content farmer brain. Drama = clicks. Empassioned platitudes and berating the pred = clicks. Making them call their family, no matter how harmful their approach = clicks. "No wait not in Spanish our analytics tell us our channel audience is mostly English-speaking!" Mouthing off to police for not specially deviating from their information-gathering protocol just for them = "aw shit this is gonna do numbers 🔥"
"Hey, instead of calling her wife, why wont we call to her son? Tell that his dad molests kids, maybe ask if dad molested him too? Great content!"
yeah. the judge should throw this case out.
The way they tortured his wife, makes me think they are doing all this for the wrong reasons. Why does his wife have to suffer for his actions ? They were so intent on destroying him, they don't care who else is destroyed in the process. What a cheap way to make money off youtube.
I speak broken Spanish and she was calling him a pssy and talking about the age of their children, she called him a coward and a whore. Told him she would end her self and that he ruined their lives. She surely said more, but I can’t understand when it’s spoken so fast.
you can click on the little gear cog on the screen and slow the video down - maybe that could help you understand more?
@@RRRIBEYE she also mentioned things like what is she supposed to do with their children now, and accused him of being a hypocrite for judging predators but becoming one. Hope that helps!
@@RRRIBEYEand mentions the kids saying Do you know what thats gonna do with our kids? That pretty much somes it up and he told her it spanish not to come and its all true what they told you.
This was a disgrace; the predator, yes… but the way this situation was handled by untrained amateurs is a true disgrace. Do better guys. Do *way* better.
I completely agree, but it's important to understand that this was their first predator sting. The later ones are done much more professionally. They don't make any calls to the family, and the cops are alerted. They've obviously learned a lot from this situation and are actually rather effective.
What can you expect when the "trained professionals" don't even want to show up to the scene?
@@davidfuentes4455 THIS. This is why I don't understand the "leave it to the professionals" comments, bro what professionals
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Wow I've seen A lot of these from Different groups but This is By Far the most Unprofessional group I've ever seen. The Cursing is out of this world and it Escalated WAY out of control. This could've EASILY ended in Tragedy. The Wife was VERY Distraught Threatening Death and Suicide. Then Getting invited to the Park! What if she showed up with a Gun? Before the cops showed up?
I'm really disappointed with this team on this case. While getting a predator off the streets is a good thing, traumatising his family for youtube drama is not. His poor family are victims in this too and it was handled horribly. The poor wife sounded like she was having a nervous breakdown with no crisis councillor in attendence. While I understand the desire to name and shame, you've just likely caused a whole lot more grief for his family. He has teenage kids. What are the other kids at their school going to say when they find out their father is a child predator. It could scar them even more for life. What about his wife? She's a teacher. She could lose her job over this if the parents make a fuss and don't want her at their school. This was really uncomfortable and made me fell sick for them. You're doing a good thing but in the wrong way. Please don't do this again. It's troubles me this video is over 6 month old and still available in its entirety. I'm only a recent subscriber and this has made me seriously consider unsubscribing.
just say you sympothize with the preditor because you understand what its like to be one
I agree. Poor kids. They can commit suicide from this embarrassment especially it’s online . If this person faced his punishment then wasn’t that the goal? , why do the children need to be punished?
@@jessicasworld9787 they didn’t bring the kids dude the parents did it’s not on them how dumb are you
@@crazycrash1157What in his comment even remotely suggested he was sympathizing with the predator? He clearly said he was sympathizing with the family who were clearly traumatized from the event and would very likely be stigmatized from Martin’s actions, culminating in things like bullying and potential job loss, life ruination for them all because of something that wasn’t their fault. That’s not sympathizing with the predator
He traumatized them. The predator did.
If you were so concerned about his wife, her feelings, and her career, you wouldn't have posted the call. You shouldn't even have made that call. That was handled so poorly. You got so wrapped up in the drama of it that you failed to *actually* consider that his wife and kids are innocent in this.
I'm always happy to see a predator get called out because they ruin lives of innocent children. Please leave the family out of it next time. That was too much. The escalation was ALL on you. You used the family for drama.
I'm so grossed out by how you exploited the family for views and how indelicate you were. You ramped up the drama and acted like his wife's reaction was his fault. It was yours.
Deal with law enforcement ahead of time next time. You didn't even know how this kind of investigation works since you didn't understand how digital evidence works.
The reaction was his fault...not theirs. They didn't try to fuck a child. U may not agree how it all went down but....don't blame them for anything. They are not grown ass men stalking kids online. I would have brought the wife and son to see it all happen in person.
@@packers12to80 if you think that then you're just as scummy as the predators themselves... *spits*
@@packers12to80 we don’t care what happens to the predator but don’t involve the wife or kids, they’re are not qualified to make that decision, and it’s probably a good thing you aren’t either
@@whomp8038 I feel like it could have been handled better but the wife deserved to know. How would you feel if you were at home and your S/O was at work got off work, went to see a minor instead of coming home and you didn’t receive a call but it was posted all over the internet
Yes som of this should've been done differently but it was "his" wife who pulled the kids in on it. She could've waited to tell them. I just believe all the decisions were made due to the heat of the moment. We know this kind of behavior is sick & disgusting & the people to just keep saying how disgusting this makes him feel over & over while waiting in car, he was just ramping himself up so by time Martin got there he was just to enraged & should'nt had handled anything until he calmed by to ask questions responsibly. AND to Trilogy, the girl, & to all of the crew......plz call law enforcement b4 any meeting is set up.
This was handled terribly. If this was ever tried in a court, half your case would be thrown out due to your own actions and the traumatization of the family members who were uninvolved, and had their lives ruined in an unprofessional way because of "youtube clout". Absolutely disgusting. You guys handled this badly, and shouldn't do this again in the future if you do it like this. Flexing your views on the guy, threatening him, completely unprofessional. Good luck in court if he attempts to take you there!
My thoughts exactly. I'm absolutely furious over how they made a circus out of the family.
Please explain?
@@FormanSosa What is there to explain?
If anyone handled anything wrong it was the police and the wife bro. All they have to prove in court is that he intended to meet up with a minor. It's called luring.
Trilogy did the same as all the other channels that do this, the only difference is they had a lot more cameras.
@@Chris-qr3ce the police were right in not responding faster there call wasn't a priority as it wasn't a emergency also the officers were right they had no training also they didn't work with the authorities before hand he had every right to say what he said on top of it any so called evidence would be thrown out of court
I know these aren't fake because if nobody is gonna act as a child predator online and fuck up their reputation
While I have zero concern for him whatsoever and I totally get that emotions are running high after having to deal with the digusting exchanges between him and the decoy for well over a month, the way you chose to inform his wife was appalling to say the least!! She is as much an innocent victim in this scenario as the 13 year old girl he thought he was meeting. She deserves as much sympathy and respect as his intended victim does. Instead she got treated with anything but simply because of her association to him. The way you handled this, anyone could have been mistaken for assuming she had some part in it and you were pissed off that you didn't catch her too. I have the upmost respect for your mission BUT on this occasion, you fucked up. Yes, you caught the lowlife, absolute credit where it's due, however, the way you treated his wife is beyond sickeningly disrespectful! You come out with how would the predator like it if it was their daughter being approached. . .where was that thought process in considering how his wife must have felt on the other end of the line during a totally unexpected phone call to be told her husband is in a park to meet an underage girl for sex? Edit - how far do you think you're gonna get btw swearing at police? Again, I DO understand the frustration and hightened emotions BUT you've been doing this for long enough now to keep those emotions in check and (just imitating you) do your fucking job!
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exactly I wish this was a good catching video but they didn't do a good job.. they just guilt tripped him most the time instead of helping others and getting him in trouble with the law
Just how can you gently tell a woman that her husband is out looking to bang children? It had to be said. Painful yes, but the molester caused all of this to happen. Mom needs to know that their daughter may not be safe.
they just want content, that's their main concern
The lanky-praying mantis looking guy could do much better if he cut back on his constant dirty talk. And what’s with the sun glasses? In the dark night?
Love, love the work that you guys are doing with these scumbags, I however was saddened by your approach informing the wife, she was devastated and even stated she wanted to unalive herself!!!! you never know how someone will handle devastating news like that and some just cannot take it. I am hoping she will be okay moving forward but y'all, please find a better approach handling family members of the offender.
You my friend just got manipulated. She was worried about losing her job. The comments at the end of the video she made, e.g. "Just show me the texts and then I don't want to know the rest", she begged to not have it on his record as she might lose her job (false). She threatened to unalive herself to try and grind the entire operation to a halt so that hopefully she can pretend like it never happened and things go back to normal.
I agree with Nimzy. The worst moment of this woman's life is now a TH-cam video.
I feel so bad, because of his choices his wife and son’s life is ruined, their real people who didn’t deserve this
No! Its good for them, so they will learn from this too!
@@MiaMia-px5xo learn what
@Aeslingo learn who he really is
@@mwwkwnwkm yes they do need to know that of course, but you have to be insane to think that berating his wife and child down the phone who are completely innocent is the most efficient way to that
Yes, it’s the painful part.
How come the police department hesitated even come? One hour? This should be recommended over the in the system that’s ridiculous. They’re not willing to do their job. I would definitely make it known. What kind of a police department really going on
This is ridiculous
. Telling her to bring their child? Like are you guys nuts? This is insane.
ae you stupid? They told her to bring the child so they can see who their father really is.
right ??
they didn't did you not see the end of the video they were against it the mom made the best choice that she could in a hard time
No, its good! To give them a lesson!
@@MiaMia-px5xo ?! why would the kids need a lesson about having a shit dad