We made this machine for serial production. But why, when it could be done on a lathe? Because we want to knurl D5 aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, which is impossible on a conventional lathe, because at such a small diameter the material will bend rather than knurl. We tried it with a follower rest, but it's still not perfect. We tried to play with the rpm, but it wasn't perfect. That's why we created an effective device that is easy to use. . If you know a method how to knurl D5 bars perfectly leave a comment here 👇👇
Ok, so make your machine so you can knurl aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, so what's the problem? Just a side note, you aren't getting perfect precision and you won't be able to knurl every diameter. Any gear maker could verify this. Not sure why you stuck this machine on a table in the middle of a field then zoomed in from far away either. Not sure what drugs you're using but I guess.
@@TheDude19Echo That is a wild bunch of sludge you wrote. He won't get perfect precision because it won't be perfect at every diameter? Who TF said it would be? He specifically mentioned having a problem doing it on the lathe at this particular small diameter, which was needed in production quantities.
@@TheDude19Echo LMFAO that you think you can make a comment in a public comments section, and have an expectation that the content creator, and ONLY the content creator should reply. First day on the internet?
Hey, awesome work! Really great design. There are 3 ways you could make your part using existing machinery though. First, is to use a knurl holder with 3 wheels mounted to what looks like a 3 jaw chuck. Instead of clamping jaws, it has either cut knurl wheels or form wheels. Quick makes one that i have but other brands make them as well. Second method is to rotary broach them using an external spline tool. I have done this for making components for household tap valves. You need an EDMd spline tool. The limiting factor factor on both these methods is that when you want a really long part, it twists too much and won't end up straight. The third method that avoids that pitfull and is basically the machine you've made is called a straight acting thread rolling machine. They are most commonly used for high volume production of rolled threads, but they use plates that can form any geometry onto the part. I once worked on a part that used this type of machine to produce a pyramid shaped knurl on 8mm x 200mm stainless rods. The dies needed to be sinker edmd from hardened steel so were very expensive but then a perfect part came off every second. You need to have a gradual taper on the forming plates from when the part first engages to when it is at full depth, so the wear happens evenly over all the ridges. Great work
Nice tool shop: Mill, Lathe Surface grinder, wire EDM, forge. You got it all! Reminds me of the quote from the movie Dr Strangelove: Slim pickens: Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
I bet your boss was shocked. "You wasted 6 months of time and machine hours on a contraption that straight knurls! I can do that on a lathe in 30 seconds!" Like an engineer you went around the world to get across the street. But, it was some really cool machining. So you get a like and subscribe from me.
We made this machine for serial production manufacturing for the"cigarette roller machine". We try to knurl D5 bar for every kind of methods and the bar not was as nice and smooth as we want. I try it with follower rest on lathe and the results was not impressed me. But this machine is very simlpe. Just put in the right lenght D5 material and the machine made it probably 15 seconds. Nice, smooth and no material waste. But yes unfortunately it was a long long time to make it. Thank you mister!
There are many reasons to do things in a different way. This machine is more space efficient and cheaper material wise than a lathe that can do a nice straight knurl. I thought of these two reasons before reading the makers own third reason. When I see someone making a machine with this many and diverse manufacturing skills I assume they know something I don't.
Very nice machining. The use of EDM has certaining improved engineering over the past 40 years. I would have used bronze on the lead screw it is more durable than copper. Nice post, thank you 👍
It’s amazing what you can make with $200,000 worth of machines! It’s cool though, great practice for designing and machining your parts and when everything fits and works perfectly that YOU designed and machined it the best feeling ever!!!
@@Matthews_Tools It really is an amazing feeling when you did everything from design to machining and your drawings and the parts all fit and work perfectly, I still feel that excited and very proud feeling when I do that, it’s so cool!! Good for you!! Never stop learning and expanding your knowledge and skills!
wow. a boss that not only listens and gives you freedom to experiment, but also doesnt take credit when something works... or blame you for doing precisely what they told you to do when it doesnt... despite having recorded the conversation to prove it was their idea all along...
Beautiful machine, impressive engineering, tools most can only dream of. It seems to be shaving a piece off itself around 28:08. I am guessing you didn't oil it at that point for better video. Thank you.
is it possible to make a knurling machine that makes parts for a roller screw actuator in 1 step? like can you get a screw that becomes also a gear on both ends?
I think it is possible, but a very special device must be manufactured for this. and maybe 2-3 times as big a machine is needed due to the power relations.
Hello there, the maste is only available in copper? nothing available on aluminium?? I am wondering if your machine works with The Virtual Foundry fillaments / pellets as well.
Also good thing its just labeled knurling bc not one of those samples has equal spacing that lines up perfect from the start point to the finish point! You made sure to not show it after the first one showed it! Since its inconsequential knurling.....im sure itll be ok....but the time and effort used....for it to not create perfect spacing is just ludacris might as well not even made the god dahm thing!
I cant tell if this video is a troll or not. Your bottom slide plate has what looks like deformation where you screwed in the lead screw 8:14. That will probably crack and fail at some point. The miss matched hardware all over the place 22:45 and then watching your machine literally self clearance while in operation 28:06. Could have saved yourself a lot of time and material by just building a free floating clamping style knurling tool for the lathe.
Watch this SILENT video with NO AUDIO? NEVER! If you can't narrate what you are up to, I can't spare the time to watch every single chip being made. On top of that, there should be an INTRODUCTION at the beginning that clearly states what problem your device is intended to solve AND how it goes about doing that. This is grammar school composition!
Is that an Emco FB3 mill that i see? It has to be, the shifters look like it and the whole machine stinks of Emco style of design... As an Emco owner - i can smell them from afar! Best regards! Steuss Edit- Great thinking to use the EDM wire as a knurling element forming tool... 0 issues with hardness of the material and remarkably precise if done right... Fucking nice! Also, nice surface grinder patterns...
We made this machine for serial production. But why, when it could be done on a lathe? because we want to knurl D5 aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, which is impossible on a conventional lathe, because at such a small diameter the material will bend rather than knurl. we tried it with a follower rest, but it's still not perfect. we tried to play with the rpm, but it wasn't perfect. that's why we created an effective device that is easy to use.
We made this machine for serial production. But why, when it could be done on a lathe? because we want to knurl D5 aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, which is impossible on a conventional lathe, because at such a small diameter the material will bend rather than knurl. we tried it with a follower rest, but it's still not perfect. we tried to play with the rpm, but it wasn't perfect. that's why we created an effective device that is easy to use.
It’s usually the other way around. Water transfer the heat much faster, and you risk getting cracks or warping the part. It also risks getting the part too hard, or even brittle. Usually heated oil is used to avoid this, but water works just fine sometimes, as in this video 👍😀
This is just completely incorrect. Water will always achieve higher hardness because of it's superior cooling ability, but that's not all we care about with heat treating.
firstly, its not impossible to produce on a lathe, its a hell of a lot quicker and easier.... There is nothing perfect about a pressure knurl... A £150 cut knurl a day to mod it and your set.... You could of produced 50,000 of these of a much higher quality in the 6 months that took to make....
No. I tried many different methods on the lathe and the surface was not smooth at all. I also put a follower rest on it, but it wasn't the real one. since it has a diameter of 5 mm, it bends easily in the machine rather than knurling. 6 month because I'm a student. I could very rarely work on the machines. I would have made the device in about 1 week if I had the time and the machine. We need this machine for serial production.
@@Matthews_Tools You failing to make it work is not the same as something being impossible! We regularly cut over 100mm long knurls in 5 & 6 mm ally, brass and stainless. Impossible and perfect are just 2 words you really should not be using so lightly
Your boss was shocked by the amount of work time, material, and machine time spent for such nonsense! A huge, heavy device that can only make notches on the rods.. And he doesn't do them well. Due to the fact that it is impossible to accurately set the teeth of the upper and lower plates relative to each other, the dents from them do not match. This is clearly visible in the resulting details. They have shavings and grooves with bullies on them. The mechanism is for a museum of curiosities, not for work!
Your boss was shocked, eh? I highly doubt that. I'm sure he's seen all sorts of creative mechanisms. Probably more shocking to him is the title of the video, as it's definitely overly exaggerated. Nice clickbait. Stick to what you know; like creating cool devices...😉🙄
The youtube algorithm works interestingly. this title was found to be the most perfect by VidIQ. sorry if it caused trouble. The focus is on the manufacturing and processing
@guytech7310 Could be, but just from what I saw in equipment here, looks to be north of $2 million in value. That's pretty impressive for a sole proprietor.
We made this machine for serial production. But why, when it could be done on a lathe? Because we want to knurl D5 aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, which is impossible on a conventional lathe, because at such a small diameter the material will bend rather than knurl. We tried it with a follower rest, but it's still not perfect. We tried to play with the rpm, but it wasn't perfect. That's why we created an effective device that is easy to use.
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If you know a method how to knurl D5 bars perfectly leave a comment here 👇👇
Ok, so make your machine so you can knurl aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, so what's the problem? Just a side note, you aren't getting perfect precision and you won't be able to knurl every diameter. Any gear maker could verify this. Not sure why you stuck this machine on a table in the middle of a field then zoomed in from far away either. Not sure what drugs you're using but I guess.
@@TheDude19Echo That is a wild bunch of sludge you wrote.
He won't get perfect precision because it won't be perfect at every diameter? Who TF said it would be? He specifically mentioned having a problem doing it on the lathe at this particular small diameter, which was needed in production quantities.
@@Nevir202 Was I talking to you? NO!
@@TheDude19Echo LMFAO that you think you can make a comment in a public comments section, and have an expectation that the content creator, and ONLY the content creator should reply.
First day on the internet?
@@Nevir202 Quit crying karen!
18:15 That double action/spring cranck mechanism was beautiful!
Thank you! This was the hardest part of design
That opening sequence was godly. I did not know how much I enjoyed precision machining until I found channels like yours and several others.
Thanks 🫡
That ratchet is something else, awesome job!
Thank you! It was the hardest to make. Only the planning time was several weeks. For a long time I thought it was impossible.
Hey, awesome work! Really great design.
There are 3 ways you could make your part using existing machinery though.
First, is to use a knurl holder with 3 wheels mounted to what looks like a 3 jaw chuck. Instead of clamping jaws, it has either cut knurl wheels or form wheels. Quick makes one that i have but other brands make them as well.
Second method is to rotary broach them using an external spline tool. I have done this for making components for household tap valves. You need an EDMd spline tool.
The limiting factor factor on both these methods is that when you want a really long part, it twists too much and won't end up straight.
The third method that avoids that pitfull and is basically the machine you've made is called a straight acting thread rolling machine. They are most commonly used for high volume production of rolled threads, but they use plates that can form any geometry onto the part. I once worked on a part that used this type of machine to produce a pyramid shaped knurl on 8mm x 200mm stainless rods. The dies needed to be sinker edmd from hardened steel so were very expensive but then a perfect part came off every second.
You need to have a gradual taper on the forming plates from when the part first engages to when it is at full depth, so the wear happens evenly over all the ridges.
Great work
Someone please send this guy a box of matching bolts.
would love to see what happens when you put it in slightly diagonal, two times in different directions. See if you can create a cross hatch
We tried that and the lines crossed each other. Looks different. I will make short video about it
Impressive build. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week, and people really liked it.
Hi! I'm glad about that! Thank you
that is a pretty excellent design. the weird patters that are possible with that is impressive
Thanks man!
Truly amazing and High Industrial Art! Create a clamping system for it so you can lock it to a desk, table, workbench! 7 out of 5 stars!
Nice tool shop: Mill, Lathe Surface grinder, wire EDM, forge. You got it all!
Reminds me of the quote from the movie Dr Strangelove:
Slim pickens: Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
Bátttya! Te Magyar vagy!?!?! Így tovább! Ügyes vagy!!!
Igen báttya 🫡😁 köszi!
Szép munka Mászter!
Uram 🫡
Who can only dream of having access to such expensive equipment? Let alone knowing how to use it. 🙋🏼♂️
I bet your boss was shocked. "You wasted 6 months of time and machine hours on a contraption that straight knurls! I can do that on a lathe in 30 seconds!" Like an engineer you went around the world to get across the street. But, it was some really cool machining. So you get a like and subscribe from me.
Lol, pretty much. Not sure straight knurling has much use but its still a cool project.
We made this machine for serial production manufacturing for the"cigarette roller machine". We try to knurl D5 bar for every kind of methods and the bar not was as nice and smooth as we want. I try it with follower rest on lathe and the results was not impressed me. But this machine is very simlpe. Just put in the right lenght D5 material and the machine made it probably 15 seconds. Nice, smooth and no material waste.
But yes unfortunately it was a long long time to make it.
Thank you mister!
@@Matthews_Tools Now I understand why you made it.
@@Matthews_Tools fair enough. Either way extremely impressive display of machining talent and design.
There are many reasons to do things in a different way. This machine is more space efficient and cheaper material wise than a lathe that can do a nice straight knurl. I thought of these two reasons before reading the makers own third reason.
When I see someone making a machine with this many and diverse manufacturing skills I assume they know something I don't.
Very interesting. Nice work
Good job mister beautifully done
Thank you!
beautifully over engineered and i love it!
Great job man
Beautiful & inspirational!
Thank you man!
Nice work! I see your progress in all your videos, keep it up and you will be one of the best 👍
Thank you!
I guess whoever uses this machine is an official serial knurler indeed.
Man, you have all of the neat "toys"!
Yeah absolutelly 😁
Have you seen the plate type thread rolling machine. We normally do knurling on that machine. Always have precise dimensions.
Wow, that's so awesome!
Hello, we are a parts manufacturing factory in China. Do you need to outsource parts manufacturing? Thank you!
Very nice machining. The use of EDM has certaining improved engineering over the past 40 years. I would have used bronze on the lead screw it is more durable than copper. Nice post, thank you 👍
Hello, we are a parts manufacturing factory in China. Do you need to outsource parts manufacturing? Thank you!
Beautiful work 👍😀....
Thanks!
Good job!
Thanks!
I don't know how dowels are made but I have a feeling that's exactly how they're made to allow sufficient glue between the parts.
Pretty cool to make Knob caps!
It’s amazing what you can make with $200,000 worth of machines! It’s cool though, great practice for designing and machining your parts and when everything fits and works perfectly that YOU designed and machined it the best feeling ever!!!
Yeah, thats true! I was so excited when I first assembled it and I've been very happy to see it works
@@Matthews_Tools It really is an amazing feeling when you did everything from design to machining and your drawings and the parts all fit and work perfectly, I still feel that excited and very proud feeling when I do that, it’s so cool!! Good for you!! Never stop learning and expanding your knowledge and skills!
Knurling surface, that's why you want to have a shaper ;-D
You are the man just a awesome job
Thank you!
Looks like the Rube Goldberg machine, since you already have an EDM to do the job, but good on you! o7
Very well done ✅👍🏻
Thanks!
well done
The CNC cuter is awesome
КМДшка "Красного инструментальщика"
That as amazing work.
Thank you mister!
Very good skills. I liked the rachet mechanism very much! bojler eladó?
Thanks bro! Milyen bojler kell attól függ 😀
Do you have my like because the ratchet 😅 its a very nice job
Thank you man!
Neat. What do you need knurled aluminum pins for?
Surprise.. it will be built into a product. We will soon find out what it is
Hi
Very good job realy 👍
😮
Hi, thx 🫡
Pretty slick ,
oh and most use aluminum to show the best possible results for those that don’t know
Gyaaaa most vagtam le hogy ez magyaaar
That was pretty cool
Thanks!
Fantastic Documentary! i wonder how many people you had to fight to get to use the CNC machines?
I always had to wait for the CNC machine to be empty. it took more than half a year to make this machine.
Or the submerged arc
Hermoso vídeo y excelente trabajo, me suscribo a su canal, le envío un abrazo desde el sur Argentino.
Нағыз өнермен екен станок жасап алу онай емес күшті 👍👍👍
Thanks!
At 28.08 you can see either material being shaved off, or debris being cleared from the slide mechanism.
I fixed it with steel parts.
wow. a boss that not only listens and gives you freedom to experiment, but also doesnt take credit when something works...
or blame you for doing precisely what they told you to do when it doesnt... despite having recorded the conversation to prove it was their idea all along...
The top plate, you could allow an offset bias or the ability to rotate and reattach so you could get a cross hatch knurl?
what gas did you use to freeze the bearing? I like that idea better than dry ice.
That was dry ice also but in xxl version from a big can
Hey, love the video! I had a question.
First, what is the purpose of what appears to be shimstock between the top two plates?
Thanks! Due to buckling, but it not necesarry
Muito bom !
Thanks!!
Really hope everything was put together with some lubrication before first run in as it sounded very dry in the video
Beautiful machine, impressive engineering, tools most can only dream of. It seems to be shaving a piece off itself around 28:08. I am guessing you didn't oil it at that point for better video. Thank you.
Yes I fixed that parts with steel. I didn't use oil for the video. thank you man!
This is revolucionry
Heck of an engineering job and build but why didn't you go with an Acme thread on the "lead spindle" ??????
I am shocked as well
ügyes!
Can any pieces be knurled at an angle? Certainly they could not be the full width of the tray, What would the end result be?
is it possible to make a knurling machine that makes parts for a roller screw actuator in 1 step? like can you get a screw that becomes also a gear on both ends?
I think it is possible, but a very special device must be manufactured for this. and maybe 2-3 times as big a machine is needed due to the power relations.
Hello, we are a parts manufacturing factory in China. Do you need to outsource parts manufacturing? Thank you!
I'd be shocked too if you put all that work together with no grease or zircs.
Hello there, the maste is only available in copper? nothing available on aluminium?? I am wondering if your machine works with The Virtual Foundry fillaments / pellets as well.
What was that piece of foil for?
Also good thing its just labeled knurling bc not one of those samples has equal spacing that lines up perfect from the start point to the finish point! You made sure to not show it after the first one showed it! Since its inconsequential knurling.....im sure itll be ok....but the time and effort used....for it to not create perfect spacing is just ludacris might as well not even made the god dahm thing!
3:00 And what kind of infernal machine is this? What is the name of this tool of the Iron Inquisition, can you tell me? 🤔
I cant tell if this video is a troll or not. Your bottom slide plate has what looks like deformation where you screwed in the lead screw 8:14. That will probably crack and fail at some point. The miss matched hardware all over the place 22:45 and then watching your machine literally self clearance while in operation 28:06. Could have saved yourself a lot of time and material by just building a free floating clamping style knurling tool for the lathe.
I wish I could work for you.
Hi, are you making injection molds?
Hi, no, we only works with metals
Wow. I know many places that would fire a guy for spending 6 months on that.
I'm a student. I can work if the machines are free. if only I had spent my time on this, I would have finished it in about 1 week..
Small rolling machine
Imadom a munkad ember
Örülök neki, Köszi szépen! Így van Magyar vagyok
I clicked on the video wondering where the cheerios are
I miss lubrication everywhere… would be a shame if that thing breaks down a year down the road…
@@L1qu1d_5h4d0w just for the video we didn't press oil.
Watch this SILENT video with NO AUDIO? NEVER!
If you can't narrate what you are up to, I can't spare the time to watch every single chip being made. On top of that, there should be an INTRODUCTION at the beginning that clearly states what problem your device is intended to solve AND how it goes about doing that.
This is grammar school composition!
why was it so loud when the CNC wasn't running? another machine near by?
Yes
genius you should work together with Elon musk pretty sure you guys will make futuristic rocket and spaceship
Haha once, God willing
Why the shim stock in the middle?
Due to buckling, but it not necesarry
Is that an Emco FB3 mill that i see? It has to be, the shifters look like it and the whole machine stinks of Emco style of design... As an Emco owner - i can smell them from afar!
Best regards!
Steuss
Edit- Great thinking to use the EDM wire as a knurling element forming tool... 0 issues with hardness of the material and remarkably precise if done right... Fucking nice! Also, nice surface grinder patterns...
Am i seeing right? Hurco vmx30? If yes do you have the ultimax controll ore the winmax?
28:05 маленькая недоработка... надо бы смазать или подобрать пару трения. 🤔
This is the only place where we also found a problem.. it needs to be repaired with a steel part
I would be shocked you can knurl on a lathe and he use a lathe a mill and an edm must have been a lot of workshop hours!
We made this machine for serial production. But why, when it could be done on a lathe? because we want to knurl D5 aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, which is impossible on a conventional lathe, because at such a small diameter the material will bend rather than knurl. we tried it with a follower rest, but it's still not perfect. we tried to play with the rpm, but it wasn't perfect. that's why we created an effective device that is easy to use.
@@Matthews_Tools ok well the travelling steady would have been my last idea so I suppose it is a very nice machine and well made too.
insert at this moment 14:30🥵
So COOL TOOL....BUT.......YOU DO KNOW IM SURE....THIER ARE 15 DOLLAR TOOLS WHICH PRODUCE THE SAME PARTS RIGHT?????
We made this machine for serial production. But why, when it could be done on a lathe? because we want to knurl D5 aluminum and copper bars with perfect precision, which is impossible on a conventional lathe, because at such a small diameter the material will bend rather than knurl. we tried it with a follower rest, but it's still not perfect. we tried to play with the rpm, but it wasn't perfect. that's why we created an effective device that is easy to use.
Hello, we are a parts manufacturing factory in China. Do you need to outsource parts manufacturing? Thank you!
и куда эти шпеньки засунуть??
surprise.. it will be built into a product. I recently made a video about the product
Зачем нужны аллюминевые чопики?
a littlebit of constructive criticism, your tool is eating himself at 28:07
I fixed it with steel parts
i think any competent boss would fire anyone who spent 6 months (and what would probably equate to $100K) building that
It takes 6 months because I am a student and I can only work on the machines when there is no work on it. otherwise I would have done it in 1 week..
What about this shocked your boss?
That they built that for fun on his time instead of stripping and rebuilding the client's Model T like they were supposed to.
Quenching in oil will make the material alot harder than quenching in water.... but great job all together id love a tool like this
unfortunately we didn't have that much oil at home, it really would have been better, but it hardened anyway.
Thanks!
It’s usually the other way around. Water transfer the heat much faster, and you risk getting cracks or warping the part. It also risks getting the part too hard, or even brittle. Usually heated oil is used to avoid this, but water works just fine sometimes, as in this video 👍😀
This is just completely incorrect.
Water will always achieve higher hardness because of it's superior cooling ability, but that's not all we care about with heat treating.
firstly, its not impossible to produce on a lathe, its a hell of a lot quicker and easier.... There is nothing perfect about a pressure knurl... A £150 cut knurl a day to mod it and your set.... You could of produced 50,000 of these of a much higher quality in the 6 months that took to make....
No. I tried many different methods on the lathe and the surface was not smooth at all. I also put a follower rest on it, but it wasn't the real one. since it has a diameter of 5 mm, it bends easily in the machine rather than knurling.
6 month because I'm a student. I could very rarely work on the machines. I would have made the device in about 1 week if I had the time and the machine.
We need this machine for serial production.
@@Matthews_Tools You failing to make it work is not the same as something being impossible! We regularly cut over 100mm long knurls in 5 & 6 mm ally, brass and stainless. Impossible and perfect are just 2 words you really should not be using so lightly
@@grahamthompson8559 I would like to see that method. unfortunately I didn't succeed. I accept any good advice
всё конечно здорово, но зачем?!
You can see soon
Your boss was shocked by the amount of work time, material, and machine time spent for such nonsense! A huge, heavy device that can only make notches on the rods.. And he doesn't do them well. Due to the fact that it is impossible to accurately set the teeth of the upper and lower plates relative to each other, the dents from them do not match. This is clearly visible in the resulting details. They have shavings and grooves with bullies on them. The mechanism is for a museum of curiosities, not for work!
Your boss was shocked, eh? I highly doubt that. I'm sure he's seen all sorts of creative mechanisms.
Probably more shocking to him is the title of the video, as it's definitely overly exaggerated. Nice clickbait.
Stick to what you know; like creating cool devices...😉🙄
The youtube algorithm works interestingly. this title was found to be the most perfect by VidIQ. sorry if it caused trouble. The focus is on the manufacturing and processing
I am pretty sure the Channel creator is the boss: he's his own boss.
@guytech7310 Could be, but just from what I saw in equipment here, looks to be north of $2 million in value. That's pretty impressive for a sole proprietor.
Why your boss, disgusting statement.