So many lights have gone on in my mind. I cannot believe how natural the move feels. I am going to start working it into my practice today. Great video.
This information is fantastic and it really helped improve my ball striking. Eric and Mark explain it in plain english and make the learning process so easy. Now I just have to keep working on it. Thanks so much
This is Athletic Motion Golf teaching in a nutshell… the concept of a slight lateral shift at the start of the backswing, recentering as you near the top of the backswing, and then surfing/falling left at the top and in transition. They, along with Eric, are the good standard in golf instruction. These two golf channels are all you need to know. Thanks for sharing, Eric. Your collaborations with Mark have been fantastic. 👊👊
@@CogornoGolf absolutely AMG the best around on the pressure shift.. This is the "magic move"...good ball strikers get it and some average players never do..It's kind of like the ole rubbing the stomach patting the head at the same time thing
this is good info for me cause i'm always working on my pivot move. when i get it wrong i have that elvis move you guys mentioned where the right knee pops out, i can see it happen as i swing and i hit a block out to the right. got to eliminate that somehow, this might help. also the thought of creating room for the arms to come down in as your going back makes sense. thnx to both of you.
Interesting session Eric. While as a Stack and Tilt disciple I don't subscribe to moving my weight to the right on the backswing the thought of the behind touching the wall and sliding toward the target and starting forward when the left arm is parallel to the ground are very helpful visuals. Thanks for an interesting look. Stay safe-Russ
I’m with the Russ. I’m just a little leery of the weight shift. I’m trying to work out a Stack and Tilt swing because my nemesis is low point control. Shifting back and forth just seems a little complicated for the high handicapper.
@@CogornoGolf If you are struggling with rotating your lower body towards the target which method is better? I can see the benefits of both methods however Iam struggling with both because when I keep my weight forward I don't know how to then shift more forward in the downswing and when I try the shift back and forth I get stuck behind the ball.....urrrggghhhh golf is hard but I still luv it lol lol
I agree with you Eric that move is so tough for the normal golfer. But wouldn't that be similar to the stack and tilt as well by leaving most of the weight on your front side. My one thought is left shoulder right pocket to start the downswing and left pocket right shoulder to start the downswing. Thanks for the videos
we used to do that drill in school where you take a back swing with feet together then move the lead foot down the line to start down swing. and of course if one turns the trail hip far enough back it does kinda throw the the body toward the target automatically. results my vary. as i have aged and my backswing is now so short i really have to be aware of this because the club has less distance to travel and it can be an issue to get into a good impact position.
Eric you must have very soft, light, flexible shoes seeing the way the sole bends on your left foot at the end of every swing. Would you recommend that kind of shoe for most players? The old, traditional golf shoe (and I have been playing for 59 years) was the opposite, with a firm sole, often with a steel shank reinforcement like the old Foot Joy leather classics, designed to give the player a stable rock solid platform. That no longer seems to be true.
Good one John....I have played in regular sneakers for the past 15 years and really have had no issues. Since we are down in Florida for winters its the only time I have had issues with grip in mornings as courses very wet....I have been using Athalonz and True Links and like both!
Exactly what I'm working on right now, thank you!! If you do this right, and, yes, I agree it does feel natural, can you then rotate through as hard as you want? Cheers Andrew
Being one of the high handcappers, I really don't use lower body much at all, heard plenty about using the ground and the hip "slide". This is a very athletic move, is there a way to break this down and learn in segments without a club or ball just body motion
Hey Keith! For sure....but you will likely need some coaching guidance there. Come see me in person, find a good coach or check out www.cogornogolf.com and work with us there
Have seen this type of "downswing starts sooner than you think" video a few times. Totally bought into it. But there's danger in it. Started to implement. Felt like I was making progress, but then suddenly I was losing power and consistency. I got a swing analysis with a side-by-side of my swing to Tiger and Rory's (it was a shameful moment!) and it was pretty clear that I was now moving my hips too soon in the backswing, which was wreaking havoc on my loading at the top of my backswing and getting me all out of sync. Interested to hear how you might balance the tension between the need to feel like your hips are moving fast early and gathering your backswing properly?
Hey Dan! The reality is you need to use video (always) to confirm your REALS vs FEELs. Sounds to me like you run into a problem lots do....something starts good and you over do....the error.....you weren't videoing yourself throughout to check Here specifically is the drill I would use with the noodle on right hip....should stay on it during takeaway then only come up 1-2 inches from there to top then steadily away th-cam.com/video/FbA--1xWGsc/w-d-xo.html More resources th-cam.com/video/OlZKqVytr0U/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/sz652jg7nEw/w-d-xo.html
after going back, you only really need to fall/surf back to the center,,the through swing will carry you left..Most make the mistake of thinking they have to get way forward and it's not as much as you think.
Eric, So I have always struggled using my hips correctly. I was self taught at a young and only started taking regular lessons recently. I'm 54yrs old. 7 handicapp now after a 12yr layoff. My misses, with a driver let's say, is a bad pull draw or a push and sometimes a dead block. My good shots are a nice draw. My pga instructor wants me to start using my hips correctly. All they say is "First move in downswing I want you to open your hips" and that's all they say. Never show me HOW to do it. So, should I do what's in this video or another one of your lower body videos? Thanks
Hey Danny! Of course I would need to see your swing to offer you any specific advice as I would need see what you are currently doing to explain what to feel to fix. Here is a nice place to start th-cam.com/video/jN64PgWhca8/w-d-xo.html
It is called the figure 8!!. Athletes and dancers use it. Surfers, tennis players, baseball players swimmers, figure skaters, ballerinas, salsa dancers and hula dancers. Mothers rocking their children to sleep while standing using the figure 8 with their hips will calm the child. The figure eight is the symbol of infinity. Never ending. A smooth non jerky motion, like a wave crashing onto the beach, a leaf falling from a tree, a tornado in the sky. This is in nature. If you teach a child the figure 8 motion of moving his body he will he able to adapt to any sport. That is why the professional golfers look so smooth with their strokes. I bet any money Tiger Wood's mom rocked him to sleep using the figure 8 movement with her hips.
Hey there! If a golfer is not getting their hips forward enough soon enough, they will definitely need to consciously make it happen. As with all things golf swing, it will typically require 1000X more exaggeration than you think just to get to neutral :) I think you'd enjoy checking out this video for more details! th-cam.com/video/ajBo1Zug_tM/w-d-xo.html
Great video, this will surely help. As a feel, how far should our butt "wipe"against the wall to ensure the proper amount of shift without overdoing it? This one I'll have to do in the garage, the wife will surely banish me there anyway when I'm doing this against her freshly painted walls!
Is this not something that just happens naturally. It becomes complicated when we start breaking the swing into micro movements and then we have too many thoughts in the swing.
Seems like this would also give you several other things for free, like better spine angles, better low point control, more compression, better x-factor stretch.
If u shift too much to the left just b4 transition, it became reverse pivot if u r not careful. I know Ben Hogan did it without extreme reversed pivot.
Anything can be over done....or under done....or done too much....or done too little :) Thats why you need to record your swing and confirm your FEELS against real
This is a misinterpretation of an important move in the swing. Near the end of the backswing , while the arms are still going back, there is some lateral movement of the sacrum ( bottom of the spine) toward the target . The lateral move continues during transition until the left side of the pelvis moves enough so that the lead foot is sufficiently weighted.The amount of this lateral movement is dependent on the width of the stance and how much weight is placed on the left foot at setup. Setting up in “reverse k” translates to very little lateral movement . Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES does the outside of the left hip go beyond the outside of the left foot , because doing so would place the lead hip socket in a position so that the pelvis runs out of range of motion to“ rotate” The rear leg does not usually get straight during the backswing or transition , so the angled the right leg is not present except among a small % of players with a driver Dustin Johnson , Rory Mcilroy, Tiger Woods are among the vast majority of players whose rear leg does not come close to straightening in transition
So many lights have gone on in my mind. I cannot believe how natural the move feels. I am going to start working it into my practice today. Great video.
Great to hear Michael! Thank you for watching!!
This information is fantastic and it really helped improve my ball striking. Eric and Mark explain it in plain english and make the learning process so easy. Now I just have to keep working on it. Thanks so much
Love to hear this one helped Frank!
This is Athletic Motion Golf teaching in a nutshell… the concept of a slight lateral shift at the start of the backswing, recentering as you near the top of the backswing, and then surfing/falling left at the top and in transition. They, along with Eric, are the good standard in golf instruction. These two golf channels are all you need to know. Thanks for sharing, Eric. Your collaborations with Mark have been fantastic. 👊👊
:) Appreciate it!
@@CogornoGolf absolutely AMG the best around on the pressure shift.. This is the "magic move"...good ball strikers get it and some average players never do..It's kind of like the ole rubbing the stomach patting the head at the same time thing
Brilliant video...does a little to the right mean, Stensenesque sitting on the right heel?
Thanks! Yes, but perhaps less exaggerated
This has to be my favorite video so far, Eric. Nice work with Mark!
Thanks, Brian! Mark is great!!
Solid on SO many levels!
Thanks, Tim!
Great interpretation of the transition. 🤙
Thank you!
Well done. It's a fluid motion.
Thank you!
outstanding video. Things I never considered about the right hip moving toward the target, but behind. Got to give it a shot!
Thank you, Tim! Hope it helps!
this is good info for me cause i'm always working on my pivot move. when i get it wrong i have that elvis move you guys mentioned where the right knee pops out, i can see it happen as i swing and i hit a block out to the right. got to eliminate that somehow, this might help. also the thought of creating room for the arms to come down in as your going back makes sense. thnx to both of you.
Thanks, Steve! Hope it helps👊🏼
Man I’ve been waiting for a video like this, can’t wait to try this on the course, thanks for the explanation on proper hip movement!
You got it, Randy!
Interesting session Eric. While as a Stack and Tilt disciple I don't subscribe to moving my weight to the right on the backswing the thought of the behind touching the wall and sliding toward the target and starting forward when the left arm is parallel to the ground are very helpful visuals. Thanks for an interesting look. Stay safe-Russ
You got it Russ!👊
I’m with the Russ. I’m just a little leery of the weight shift. I’m trying to work out a Stack and Tilt swing because my nemesis is low point control. Shifting back and forth just seems a little complicated for the high handicapper.
@@CogornoGolf If you are struggling with rotating your lower body towards the target which method is better? I can see the benefits of both methods however Iam struggling with both because when I keep my weight forward I don't know how to then shift more forward in the downswing and when I try the shift back and forth I get stuck behind the ball.....urrrggghhhh golf is hard but I still luv it lol lol
Need to see your swing to see what you're doing today what's best for you to focus.....depends on where you are coming from.
@@CogornoGolf Gotcha....thanks for everything luv all your videos
Awesome stuff. As always.
Appreciate it!
I agree with you Eric that move is so tough for the normal golfer. But wouldn't that be similar to the stack and tilt as well by leaving most of the weight on your front side. My one thought is left shoulder right pocket to start the downswing and left pocket right shoulder to start the downswing. Thanks for the videos
I like those thoughts!!
@@CogornoGolf thank you. Obviously it was left shoulder right pocket to start the backswing lol. I'm sure you realized that lol
Good video. Please discuss the whipping feel of the club during the downswing ala Adam Bazalgette to help gain lag
Perhaps for future video!
Great video
Thanks, Peter!
we used to do that drill in school where you take a back swing with feet together then move the lead foot down the line to start down swing. and of course if one turns the trail hip far enough back it does kinda throw the the body toward the target automatically. results my vary. as i have aged and my backswing is now so short i really have to be aware of this because the club has less distance to travel and it can be an issue to get into a good impact position.
:)
Eric, is this right hip movement and feeling known as a slide? At some point in golf instruction I thought that was known as a bad word.
Perhaps....check this one out on the misconceptions around slide
th-cam.com/video/BUk-KLh_k20/w-d-xo.html
I even do it, ( to a less exaggerated extent), in my putting stroke!
Nothing wrong with that :)
Is this what is referred to as recentering? Thanks
Yep
My niece is playing field hockey. The concept there is the step forward as well.
:)
Eric you must have very soft, light, flexible shoes seeing the way the sole bends on your left foot at the end of every swing. Would you recommend that kind of shoe for most players? The old, traditional golf shoe (and I have been playing for 59 years) was the opposite, with a firm sole, often with a steel shank reinforcement like the old Foot Joy leather classics, designed to give the player a stable rock solid platform. That no longer seems to be true.
Good one John....I have played in regular sneakers for the past 15 years and really have had no issues.
Since we are down in Florida for winters its the only time I have had issues with grip in mornings as courses very wet....I have been using Athalonz and True Links and like both!
Eric, this may sound crazy but this transition move feels similar to the movement one feels in the right arm and shoulder in swimming the backstroke.
Love it, Tom! :)
Exactly what I'm working on right now, thank you!! If you do this right, and, yes, I agree it does feel natural, can you then rotate through as hard as you want?
Cheers
Andrew
Yes you can!
I like the little step forward. Its something that can easily be practiced. GQ Eric I dont know about that..😀
Lol me neither :)
Being one of the high handcappers, I really don't use lower body much at all, heard plenty about using the ground and the hip "slide". This is a very athletic move, is there a way to break this down and learn in segments without a club or ball just body motion
Hey Keith! For sure....but you will likely need some coaching guidance there. Come see me in person, find a good coach or check out www.cogornogolf.com and work with us there
Have seen this type of "downswing starts sooner than you think" video a few times. Totally bought into it.
But there's danger in it.
Started to implement. Felt like I was making progress, but then suddenly I was losing power and consistency. I got a swing analysis with a side-by-side of my swing to Tiger and Rory's (it was a shameful moment!) and it was pretty clear that I was now moving my hips too soon in the backswing, which was wreaking havoc on my loading at the top of my backswing and getting me all out of sync. Interested to hear how you might balance the tension between the need to feel like your hips are moving fast early and gathering your backswing properly?
Hey Dan!
The reality is you need to use video (always) to confirm your REALS vs FEELs.
Sounds to me like you run into a problem lots do....something starts good and you over do....the error.....you weren't videoing yourself throughout to check
Here specifically is the drill I would use with the noodle on right hip....should stay on it during takeaway then only come up 1-2 inches from there to top then steadily away
th-cam.com/video/FbA--1xWGsc/w-d-xo.html
More resources
th-cam.com/video/OlZKqVytr0U/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/sz652jg7nEw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the awesome feedback@@CogornoGolf ! Appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge! 🙌🏻
You got it!
after going back, you only really need to fall/surf back to the center,,the through swing will carry you left..Most make the mistake of thinking they have to get way forward and it's not as much as you think.
Eric,
So I have always struggled using my hips correctly. I was self taught at a young and only started taking regular lessons recently. I'm 54yrs old. 7 handicapp now after a 12yr layoff. My misses, with a driver let's say, is a bad pull draw or a push and sometimes a dead block. My good shots are a nice draw.
My pga instructor wants me to start using my hips correctly. All they say is "First move in downswing I want you to open your hips" and that's all they say. Never show me HOW to do it.
So, should I do what's in this video or another one of your lower body videos?
Thanks
Hey Danny!
Of course I would need to see your swing to offer you any specific advice as I would need see what you are currently doing to explain what to feel to fix.
Here is a nice place to start
th-cam.com/video/jN64PgWhca8/w-d-xo.html
It is called the figure 8!!. Athletes and dancers use it. Surfers, tennis players, baseball players swimmers, figure skaters, ballerinas, salsa dancers and hula dancers. Mothers rocking their children to sleep while standing using the figure 8 with their hips will calm the child. The figure eight is the symbol of infinity. Never ending. A smooth non jerky motion, like a wave crashing onto the beach, a leaf falling from a tree, a tornado in the sky. This is in nature. If you teach a child the figure 8 motion of moving his body he will he able to adapt to any sport. That is why the professional golfers look so smooth with their strokes. I bet any money Tiger Wood's mom rocked him to sleep using the figure 8 movement with her hips.
:) Appreciate you watching!
Does shifting happen as a cause or efffect? That is what confuses amateurs
Hey there!
If a golfer is not getting their hips forward enough soon enough, they will definitely need to consciously make it happen. As with all things golf swing, it will typically require 1000X more exaggeration than you think just to get to neutral :)
I think you'd enjoy checking out this video for more details!
th-cam.com/video/ajBo1Zug_tM/w-d-xo.html
Great video, this will surely help. As a feel, how far should our butt "wipe"against the wall to ensure the proper amount of shift without overdoing it? This one I'll have to do in the garage, the wife will surely banish me there anyway when I'm doing this against her freshly painted walls!
Haha Thanks John! Just an inch or two!
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👊
The "magic move."
:)
Is this not something that just happens naturally. It becomes complicated when we start breaking the swing into micro movements and then we have too many thoughts in the swing.
Thanks for the feedback, Michael!
Seems like this would also give you several other things for free, like better spine angles, better low point control, more compression, better x-factor stretch.
Wouldn't hurt :)
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:)
Call me immature but him saying ass cheek in a serious informational video like this had me giggling... Gonna try to work this into my game
Gotta have some fun :)
If u shift too much to the left just b4 transition, it became reverse pivot if u r not careful. I know Ben Hogan did it without extreme reversed pivot.
Anything can be over done....or under done....or done too much....or done too little :)
Thats why you need to record your swing and confirm your FEELS against real
This is a misinterpretation of an important move in the swing. Near the end of the backswing , while the arms are still going back, there is some lateral movement of the sacrum ( bottom of the spine) toward the target . The lateral move continues during transition until the left side of the pelvis moves enough so that the lead foot is sufficiently weighted.The amount of this lateral movement is dependent on the width of the stance and how much weight is placed on the left foot at setup. Setting up in “reverse k” translates to very little lateral movement . Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES does the outside of the left hip go beyond the outside of the left foot , because doing so would place the lead hip socket in a position so that the pelvis runs out of range of motion to“ rotate”
The rear leg does not usually get straight during the backswing or transition , so the angled the right leg is not present except among a small % of players with a driver
Dustin Johnson , Rory Mcilroy, Tiger Woods are among the vast majority of players whose rear leg does not come close to straightening in transition
Appreciate your feedback and perspective, Dave!