Vq35hr Swap into De 350z Chassis - EVERYTHING you need to know!! | SuperFreeStyle Ep90
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2024
- Since I launched the Hr swap 350z build a lot of you guys have been asking what all I had to do to make the Hr engine fit and work in the De Chassis.
In this video I overview the steps necessary to make the swap work in an OEM configuration as if it came from the factory with the Hr engine.
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don’t know why you don’t have more subs this was high quality
Thank you sir!!
I dont know why wiring specialties hasn't created a harness for this swap. There are a lot of DE cars out there with high mileage that are due for either a complete rebuild, or replacement of the motor. Since these motors are plentiful and cheap, it makes a lot of sense to restomod. I understand your desire to keep the car in OE configuration. Virginia vehicle safety inspections require a vehicle to have a motor of the same or newer year as the chassis and it has to have all of the original emissions systems.
Guilty Garage 👍
That sucks. Also how are they gonna know tho? Just don't get caught going 100+mph lol. I got pulled over going 95 in a 55 by a NYS trooper and she didn't check my car. Just wrote me a ticket for 65 in a 55. Granted my car is all stock except for a "custom exhaust" mufflers kept breaking at the welds so when one of them fell off for the 3rd time, I just cut the other one off lol. I'm just gonna straight pipe it when it gets warmer out
I'm facing same issue now, after HR swap my car power window, keyless door lock & backdoor is not working, I'm looking at the wiring diagram it show that the B44 socket is different but I don't know where is it....anyone know?
This man is a hero
🎉 Dude thank you so much you have saved my sanity …..
I’m just going to replace my blown DE with another DE
YOU THE MAN! 🎃
exactly what i needed deserves a like and sub!
This is very helpful
Thanks appreciate all the info!
great vid; learned a lot.
Don't have the car(s). Ain't gonna do it. Don't know how I got here. But I'll say, this was a doggone good, no BS overview.
i’m looking to do this but from the research i’ve done it’s a huge job. i have an almost totaled hr but the engine + trans is fine i found a cheap DE but it seems to need my engine and trans. But also the wiring is different.
Same thing for a G35
I have an 07 G35 sedan that I'm putting into my coupe !
the only thing is im trying to swap it but im definitely not keeping stock air box and ill be keeping the radiator but what did you do for the ecu harness from the de harness to hr ecu, and was everything else plug and play
This is really well done. I’m just having a hard time seeing why one would want to do this though. What’s worth it about it? I get that it’s the “better” motor but any of the shortcomings a DE has, it could be modified without just basically matching everything to be found under the hood of an HR. Just seems like a TON of investment for a slightly better motor.
basically do it if you’re gonna boost your car and you’re already spending a bag if you want to stay N/A it’s not worth it
It's only really worth it if you can buy a complete crashed hr. Take engine, trans, and everything you need. Part out the rest of the car and make your money back
Thank very helpful I am in the process to making the swap in my 2004 G35 coupe. Guilty garage already make my harness and the nats delete. Only a few things left I think tomorrow I will start the engine 🙏
What’s up man I’m trying to do this swap on mine would you email me your steps on your swap ?
Any updates?
Hi sorry for the late answer it just start from first. But first I got to repair the starter and since it was a manual swap to I got to clutch safety signal from the ipdm. For real it a very simple swap if got your harness done by Erick at Guilty Garage. I use cat delete to connect the pipe and new intake with 1 new MAF sensor.
@@kfilms2265 hi man go to the guilty garage web page they got explain almost everything that you will need to do and buy to your swap. You can reach them by Facebook messenger they answered and help to buy it the correct part. You can trust them I will help you if you need something to good luck it's a very nice upgrade and still 3.5
@@martinvalle7561 hey thank you man for the info
Great info. Ty for sharing. Too much tho. Just buy the hr 07-08 at least that’s what I did. De can be had from 4-7k hr 7k and up.
If you want a clean title HR 6 speed that’s not a convertible it’s more like $12-20k. Huge difference in price.
@czwarlord9243 And you realize that's still massively cheaper after labor and parts, right? And that's an OEM motor without all the headache an engine swap comes with. This is a TERRIBLE investment of a swap, as cool as it seems in practice. At this point just go with an LS
Hmm I’m thinking of doing this
what was ur final decision?
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Same process for a g35?
Can someone help ..i have 08 g35hr motor and to swap into 08 m35de chassis can it be done?
Hello there so I did the swap and got the harness computer but some how my dash don’t work any help
I'm doing a project car I have a 2013 maxima engine I'm doing a swap does it matters for i use a 2010 to 2014 engine wire harness and ECU
Hey how’s the JWT slave holding up?? I have the same in my 370
I'm facing same issue now, after HR swap my car power window, keyless door lock & backdoor is not working, I'm looking at the wiring diagram it show that the B44 socket is different but I don't know where is it....anyone know?
Would a 2004 hood fit my 07 hr
Did you use same motor mounts?
Also I’m planning on using my stock steering rack from the Rev up so what will be my main concern as far as throwing in the engine?
So the ac lines have to be 03-04 lines and the condenser 08? Thanks!
How much did it cost all together
No struct tower brace?
I have a 06 with a 07 HR engine in it Im from Cali Merced area I was wondering how do I get it to pass smog it has a mass air flow sensor and a tomei on it and a tune can anyone help?
Hey man awesome video, how does the torque feel on the HR vs DE? And would you say it was a big difference? Thanks!
In other words, is the extra 19 horsepower worth the 10 fewer lb-ft lol.
@@coreyfryer2712people really waste thousands for gain NA 20 wheel.
@@DEATHWISHVQI'm about to LMAO but I like the high revs and more reliability
@@geckog35 not one person with an HR swapped car has ever added a turbo kit. NA = aight, swapped + turbo = nice. HR is a better option if you want to push near 600 whp on a stock engine that’s the benefit. Since DEs are a time bomb when pushing 500 wheel. To make a DE push 500+ more expensive to build engine, HR = near 600 no built engine.
hey do you know if doing the re wiring will be a nightmare? I have a 05 de 350 an I want to do a vq37hr swap in the de chassis, great video also
Vq37hr does not exist, the vq37VHR would be the correct motor
@@input5847it does exist, vq37vhr bottom end, vq35hr top end, creates vq37HR, seen many built Zs do it
Im currently in the process of doing this swap and im curious on whether or not u can use the DE fans. I know u said you were gonna use the DE radiator with HR fans but why wouldnt the DE fans work?
It seems like the DE fans won't work b/c the HR coolant overflow tank will be in the way of the fan shroud. If you are using an HR radiator. Wiring would probably also be an issue, b/c I don't know how/where the DE fans connect to.
Do you think you can put a 370z Nismo engine and trans into the DE chassis ?
I don’t see any reason that it wouldn’t work, the transmission is physically the same and there is plenty of room behind the heads for the valve lift motors... other than that it’s almost exactly the same
What part of Mississippi?
I did this swap 4 years ago to my 2006 Nissan 350z . I bought a donor car that was hit from the back , engine had 58k . So in total I spend like 2 gs cus I did all the work my self . Was it worth it kinda I guess . Sold the car for 9 gs .
sold the donor for 9? or your 06?
@@mohammedalaskary342 def the 06
What's the estimated total cost for this swap? My G35X has 206k, it's still going strong and I can see it easily lasting another 80k. It's in great condition and has been taken extremely great care of. However I've been looking into the different swap options for this car. I'd basically be deleting the AWD, I'm not sure if the OEM rear driveshaft is at the same spot as the RWD. This may be a deal breaker for me, hopefully it isn't. I just need to figure out weather I want to build a VQ37VHR for a supercharger rather than a TT set up. But if it's easier to do a VQ35HR swap, then I may go that route. Since it appears that there are more successful HR swaps. I may look into the V8 VK45DE swap or VR30DDTT swap as well. I basically want to stick with Nissan, rather then doing a cookie cutter LS1 swap.
I find stuff adds up really fast and It’d be best cost effective wise to just rebuild and / or forge the de
HR is substantially less complicated than the VHR. There is 0 canbus backwards compatibility from the VHR to the HR or DE cars, and you end up having to run both the VHR ECU and the DE ECU to maintain communication to the DE body harness. It is possible to use a VHR block and rotating assembly with HR heads.
So don't do it is what your saying ?
Would these configurations work on a g35 coupe hr swap?
Obviously is the same thing
if anything us g35 owners have a bit more space especially sedans
Bro im doing a vq37vhr on a 350z at chassis do you have an email so you can help me im from Panama🇵🇦
Does an 08 hood fit an 06 no problem?
Yes
jah bless
So is the de transmission and hr transmission the same? I don't recall you mentioning it in the video. So just curious
he said they are not
you need a jk40 trans.
How did you avoid the issue with the hood clearance?
Take off the strut bar and engine cover.
I did this swap and I’m having issues getting power to the pedal.
put hr peddle in
@@allth3boost I’ll have to check if we did. Just had my first kid, named roman. Funny
@@MountainCamber that’s such a coincidence 😭
When I did my swap. My throttle bodies went to crap. I did however replace my pedal with an HR one but it didn’t change anything.
After watching this video, i'll keep the original 350z plenum in there.
Are the motor/transmission mounts de or hr ?
Hey bro, Ive almost finished the swap and I'm using 350z DE engine mounts. From what I know the de/hr mounts r the same, and the VHR mounts are about 20mm higher. You need to use 350z gearbox mount and crossmember tho, 370z won't work
@@KnockoutR6 oh ok I see thanks for getting back !!
Why?
Will a hr trans fit on a de motor
no
No
I would just put an ls or 2jz better engine for all the work you did
I was looking into both of these. It's significantly (And I mean significantly) more expensive to do either of these and make it street legal. Now if it's just for a track car, or you live in a state that doesn't care that much if the car has a Christmas tree, then it may be around the same cost. But both of those options are better for achieving significantly more power.
call me a hater but HR swapping your G or Z for thousands of dollars only to gain extra 20 wheel hp is not worth it lol. Especially if you’re going to stay NA, it’s a waste imo. Yes the HR will handle over 500 wheel hp on a stock engine vs the DE being limited to under 500 and a safe 400 torque, but unless you ACTUALLY plan to swap an HR on a G35 or 350Z and ADD A CUSTOM TURBO KIT which not one person has, then it’s not worth it. At that point just sell your car make extra money and save up for an HR if you want, I once wanted to do an HR swap but I’m a DE boy.
they also burn oil, i consider it a downgrade
What burns oil more a DE or HR
@@rudyadan6113 I’ve heard people say DE is prone to burning significantly more than an HR, but there’s really no real statistical references. Technically speaking all VQs will or can burn oil, eventually. I only started noticing small oil consumption on my non revup DE at 160k miles, I think it can come down to how well maintained the engine is, and imo all VQs should have an OIL COOLER when starting out with mods and an oil catch can to stop your plenum from being soaked in oil 👍
My only consideration in doing an HR swap comes from my DE finally letting go and I cannot source another DE locally. There are a lot of HR cars with bad auto transmissions or wrecked for sale cheap here.
I agree, unless it's a problem with finding an 07 or 08. It's like the people who wanna swap an ls1 in a 3800 loaded camaro. It makes no sense financially. Just sell it and buy a z28.
A lot of work just to keep it stock just me tho
I have no way to get ahold of Eric, I’ve tried instagram, facebook, internet but still nothing at all. Do you know if he is no longer in business?
I am still rocking! What’s your name?
@@Guilty1s Fancy seeing you here lol, really cool that you actually replied man. I actually misspoke when I said that I had tried Facebook. I however have been chatting with a fellow by the name of Micheal and he said that Facebook is the way to reach you. You can expect an inbox from Mitchell M. in the near future regarding your harness building service my friend.
Hey bro can we have a conversation some time from one Mississippi brother to another? Tbh i really need your help
Na
Way to many changes for the hr motor