If I call someone a liar and then they beat my ass because they’re better at fighting, does that make them not a liar? I’ve never understood that line of logic. Trial by combat and the gods deciding the truth isn’t a real thing, these guys know that, right?
Because Tony Cowden, like the political campaign he ran, is a fascist who believes in violently suppressing any dissenting voices or opinions that he feels insult him.
Texas has a law that makes it legal to shoot a man after dark to protect property. It's a relic from a time when stealing a man's horse could leave him stranded to die in the middle of nowhere or unable to work to feed himself and his family. Similarly, fighting over being called a liar is a relic from a time when a man's word meant something and to sully a man's word amongst the community by calling him a liar could result in him being held slightly beneath the town drunk in social standing and unable to find work or business partners. It would have been far less of an insult to walk up and punch him square in the face, and the expectation was that an honest man would be so offended that he'd be willing to challenge the accuser to a duel to defend his name; not so much to prove he's telling the truth but to show that, liar or not, his word means something to him and he's willing to risk his life over it. Sadly, duels ain't what they used to be.
We’re not allowed to hold people accountable anymore because you know it will hurt their feelings. People can’t handle it anymore when they’re told they suck.
This was exactly what I thought. I love Elgintensity's recaps of the Crossfit Games, and I'm always mesmerized at how juiced to the gills the women are.
im on the fence wether hes a gullible fool or just only cares about clicks and hence isnt questioning his guests as long as he can market their crazy stories for views
He’s just a bit naive about some aspects of the world. Very knowledgeable about others. People who goofed off on drugs and drinking a lot in high school, missed out on a lot of other, more nuanced aspects of life, as it turns out. Same with college. The most useful aspects of going to college, aren’t the classes, as much as what we learned about people, having to live with others, from different backgrounds, pursing different fields of interest, learning to compromise, live on our own, do our own laundry, live on a pittance, and to find a way to get along with eachother. No one mentions this part, but it is the most valuable aspect of college, and frankly, at least in the recent past, anyone who pursued college, had a base level of initiative, discipline and responsibility in high school, that allowed them to achieve the grades, (believe me, I’m no student, but I worked hard) to get into a decent college, in the first place. Many special forces and most enlisted military, join to get their crap together, as a last resort. Let’s be honest. The stoners were too stoned to pay attention to the rest of school, outside of class, as well.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdiedThat is the most ridiculous comment. You’re the type of person that thinks because they went to college they’re intelligent. You know, a lot of people have a driver’s license but don’t know how to parallel park!
He's incredibly dumb and gullible. That's why he let a serial killer like Eddie Gallagher on his podcast to rehabilitate Eddie's image. He's Joe Rogan without the charisma or humor.
He has some real b.s. artists on that show. Some seem certifiably nuts. Now Cowden’s interview was compelling and entertaining, and I don’t know whether this guy’s complaint is legit or not. It sounds gossipy. But some of those on Ryan’s show make some outrageous and silly claims.
shawn ryan has long left the serious route and is all in for exposure and money. all these ufo nuts and other lying narcissists i personally dont think he believes them but it makes it easier to find entertaining guests. theres no shortage of grifters and people looking for their 5min of fame.
You guys should really talk about the new Antihero pod regarding O'Neill. Shawn Ryan has really gotten the viral recipe down, but man if he doesn't lend a voice to some complete crazies.
@@PoisonPlanet-nd5jp I like Matt but he has to be able to separate the good deep dive on O'Neill and his lies from Tucker's tactical takes. You can't always complain and criticize everyone (except your cult-friend who happens to have a bunch of followers).
Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or shit on anyone's service record but there is a reason why the 75th ranger regiment is the largest pipeline of candidates for Delta.. from my experience it's because it doesn't attract the type of personalities we are constantly seeing on the internet with seals, marsoc, GB's, constant circlejerk of narcist and egomaniacs and that shit isn't tolerated.
Hahaha 🤣 Phony Coward blocked me too on Instagram back when I posted a lot of memes when his club of cronies got caught cheating blatantly, the match videos didn't match the scores and his feelings got hurt. When he wanted to run for an office position, made more memes about how fake he is to the rest of the public. He also wanted to fight but proceeded to block me and a few buddies. Real recognizes real in the end and he is as transparent as cling wrap with his stories.
I’m a “girl”, a former professor of fine arts at GWU in DC (quit in protest of woke) and middle aged, and happen to watch Shawn’s podcast (I’m a history and military buff, I know it’s weird), and I’d never even heard of this guy, but even I found him to be so dopey, such a big dumb dweeb, so obviously exaggerating, I had to turn his big, blabbering mouth, off. It comes across, to some of us, immediately.
If Cowden’s stories have evolved, show us the evolution. Don’t tell us. Show us. I’m not going with allegations…give us evidence. Otherwise this is gossipy. And I mean it when I say… If this is true, I want to see evidence. I hate being lied to. I detest frauds.
Don’t work too hard on that on logic Buddy. Usually when you “call bullshit” you provide first-hand evidence of any allegations made and if you don’t, then everybody should laugh at you like a little girl that you are. And we are laughing.
If i tell a story about shutting down a chineese police station in san fransisco when all i did was work on the building across the street do you think shawn ryan would have me on?
Tony sounds like an old roommate of mine. Dude has some bogus story for literally whatever you're doing. Bail out of a helicopter on BF4? He did it and the helicopter crashed and rolled over him and he's the only survivor, meanwhile Taliban was on the way and he fought them all off solo. Watching Blood Diamond? Yeah, we snuck off base and headed to Africa to take out a diamond mine boss. This dude even claimed to have invented Lancer AWMs and gave away the TDP out of the goodness of his heart so "Marines could have a better mag than the PMag".
Had a college roommate a little like that. And a different guy same school much more like that. Biggest fish any creek or river. Best baseball player who never got a scholarship. It never ends.
Here is my problem with your story,Ben. I don’t know you and have no affiliation with you other than having bought gear from your store at the recommendation of Tony. That all being said, you provide stories you heard from other unnamed people. We all know how that works in real life. Could Tony have enhanced some stuff ?Sure he could have, it happens to all of us to make a point or to “enhance” a story. To discredit Tony without providing any proof is the problem. I remember the problem with the practical pistol shooting stuff. He ought right said he manipulated scores, he had a reason which I don’t remember. The fact is he said he did something that could discredit himself. He didn’t lie or say it never happened. That association was one of the reasons I never got into shooting those matches. It was too game centric. Without a doubt it could enhance your shooting, it just wasn’t real world for me. Tony’s incident with the running gun fight is taught in certain places to show ways to fight CQB by yourself. It is documented to have happened and used as a teaching point. I can’t say everything happened the way portrayed as I wasn’t there. I do know that in incidents I have been involved in my understanding of the step by step evolution evolved as I moved farther away from the incident. You don’t remember some stuff linearly. It pops up in pieces and becomes clearer over time. I personally haven’t heard Tony brag about anything. He downplays most things. He is unique to say the least and I trust him. Can’t say much more than that in my opinion. So call him a liar, say you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy. Do your thing. But you can’t make a valid point without proof. Tony has done some extreme fitness stuff, such as running in 200 mile races. The two I am thinking of may have been longer distance, but he didn’t win and in one he damn near died. Who boasts about losing races? He just said I did this and this happened. The two I know about he left injured and in the one case near death. He then said I will be back to try again. He is a great instructor. He is a solid friend to those he choses as friends. State facts you can prove and I will support you. State stuff you heard from a guy or “they” said and I have problems with it.
In Tony’s last posted story (on Ben’s page) he states that “some guys were doing edits” and he “had no idea” so if he admitted actually doing it himself to you, now he’s walking that story further and further back. That doesn’t exactly scream integrity. And the CrossFit thing is documented. It sounds like you want to split hairs about “he cheated in X but there isn’t proof he cheated in Y” as a friend. But there are numerous witnesses to the USPSA thing as well as those who openly contradict that in subsequent matches Tony shot (his own quote) “consistent M and GM scores”. The consensus is that he was performing low B class at best.
Ben has known about this guy for a long time and observed a consistent pattern and practice of dishonesty/ cheating in many ways, times, and sports. He's sharing what he personally knows and what multiple fact witnesses have shared with him that he found credible. I'm sure he neither has the time nor interest to lay out evidence and document all the specific testimony, witnesses, documentation, and electronic evidence. I'm also sure he is smart enough to know that you will believe what you want to believe regardless. Especially if you are already minimizing the massive amount of cheating he did on Practiscore.
I like Shawn and understand that having a guest on a show does not mean that he supports their agenda or agrees with them or believes them. However, I do wish he had a good research team to weed some of these guys out.
The smile you talk about is something I see. Sometimes its a coping mechanism, but Ive seen some fucked shit and trying to descibe it if I choose to tell someone I can't always keep it together. With that said hes been blown up and in a coma and has memories come and go. Without a doubt he has been in the shit and killed guys, had bad things happen. In combat so much happens and if you get concussed and rattled while fighting you go in and out. I don't think we should be as judgemental in his case.
True, 2 way fire and seeing injuries & death all around, it affects everyone. Everyone, differently. I had a 2d cousin psychologically ruined by a tour in Vietnam.
Mr Ben, I don't know personally and I don't know who Tony is, but when I subscribed to your channel it was for the shooting information. But unfortunately all I see is grown men gossiping on the internet. If you or this Tony gentleman can't speak in person, then don't speak on it in public. This goes for Mr Tony as well. This is the problem with the internet. Everything does not have to be done in public.
I agree I'm not sure who's right I hope Tony's story's are true but people don't need all this gossip , this country is become guilty before Proven innocent
USPSA wasnt even mentioned in the podcast? I listened to both episodes and either I missed it which is totally possible, or it isnt on there so idk man just idk
11:55 it’s fan favorites. Mike hit the scene when the real Gs we’re out working. He had time to build a following. Perhaps his bets were that the real ones weren’t going to make it out alive to account for actual events. As the saying gos “dead men tell no tales “ By Devine timing …one made it out.
I used to respect Tony until I saw the evidence of his cheating and how he got away with it. I really have nothing for the dude after he doxxed Lucas and laughed about it.
I think segal is actually a legit Master. Lol not kidding. He shot competitions in the 80’s and 90’s I think. Saw video of him shooting a 1911 and was very impressive
@@2AlphaCrew Seagal does legitimately know Aikido, and taught in Japan under Haruo Matsuoka. EDIT: fat-fingered. The issue is that Seagal takes himself WAY too seriously.
@@scotttrujillo363 he cheated in USPSA competitions, over 20 times. Got caught going in and changing his scores several times over. He also got caught cheating in the Crossfit games. As a veteran, I don't have a bit of respect for the guy. People often think bc someone served that they're a good person, but that's nowhere near the truth. I've met some of the best and absolute worst people I've ever come across wearing the same uniform that I wore while I was in.
The “few friends of Ben’s” referenced at 5:45 include career unit guys with whom Ben regularly teaches or collaborates for content. Guys that would have seen Tony or known of his exploits, were they accurate. Kind of impossible to prove a negative by evidence, but considering the sources… it’s real-deal guys versus a multi-disciplinary cheater, so take that for what it’s worth.
Let’s wait to see the fall out from this podcast in a couple of weeks… No way real pipe hitters would not speak up about this if it’s BS right? I would hope that the “real ones” wouldn’t stand for this kind of thing especially if it’s has anything to do with their fallen brothers. I know if I heard someone spewing horse shit about my boys I would not hesitate to set the record straight regardless who was lying. It’s hard to believe anything these days unfortunately in the era of social clout being what it is and the things people will do for the admiration of strangers on the internet. Sad really…
Assume everything you are told are lies unless you can see it with your own two eyes. Repeat it, discuss it, but never claim it as truth unless you saw it and felt it.
@@kudzukid12this has nothing to do with the internet age. Its a human flaw. Whatever system we create we weaponize for power and influence. Especially the ambitious. People in the past would fight over their local clout. Not much different. The internet is an extention of humanity. Whatever issues you have with it is rooted in the human condition.
He's running for Congress, yes. I found out when he started spewing the same tired narrative in the trailer for the Shawn Ryan podcast. I was wondering what he was selling.
The system runs on honesty and integrity. If you have the tablet you can modify scores. You have to be able to as sometimes scoring errors happen. Most people are honest about it. A few people are not.
I'm not going to renew either. With the price increase and really not getting much to begin with I've cut out shooting matches so far this year. If something else starts up and it seems to be on the up and up I may start back up. However I'm getting up there in age so don't have many left anyway.
"He got in trouble at work, for talking this way, I think" that made YOU sound like the liar. I mean, prove that he is lying. Instead of sitting here sounding like your feelings are hurt.
@@kasey7673from what i can see online and stuff when you shoot with a glock and it hit low and left then youre basically a noob. So, an ex navy seal and cia operator shooting low left with a glock is ironic i guess
Pitty what Shawn Ryan’s show became. Was really good in the earlier years. Now it just seems like anyone who can tell some outrageous story can be on it. Guess I can’t blame Shawn too much. A lot of people do stuff for ratings and he does have a family to support.
I smell a guy making a random video with buzzwords that are popular trying to mooch others popularity. This dude randomly says oh ya that stories a lie “like ya it’s funny because it’s so crazy” this is 100% some dude mooching views.
The way I see it is if there was anybody that would know enough to say he's full of shit it would be Shawn Ryan. As opposed to if someone like Joe Rogan interviewed him, Shawn Ryan is from that SF world and knows alot about the subject and that community.
Ben, how do you know, factually, that Tony is lying? It seems that there's a beef between you two. Hard for people like me to know who is telling the truth. The fact that you've never been in the military makes me question your comments on anything related to the military. Then again, I don't know Tony, and you happen to be correct that some military men exaggerate their accomplishments.
Dude the faqing story he told... Get the faq out of here. The only person I know that went thru a teaumatic experience and remembered every detail. C'mon man. No way Ryan believed all that shyt
Lol yeah the story about Tony and one other dude catching a flight out of Kabul to turkey ditching his team in country to go party in turkey. Lol wtf 😂🤦🏻♂️ who believe that shit. And the one man vs 26 insurgent story. Cmon man that’s lone survivor all over again. Tall tales say it was 200 vs 4 when reality it’s a couple dozen dudes maybe with mg’s and knowledge of the land and terrain vs 4 dudes who were pinned down in a shitty spot by a lot of firepower
I remember back in the day when he was trying to copy the Dan Crenshaw shtick. And we all bought it, thinking he was going to be different from all the other politicians. He didn’t win the campaign but all of the sudden was pro red flag laws and hardcore pro war for 🇮🇱. Basically pulled a Crenshaw. I think SRS is pretty astroturfed honestly but it does some good. They’ll never really challenge the narrative in meaningful ways tho (hence all the corny UFO stuff of late).
I figured immediately 26 kills single handedly was bullshit and I was wondering why this podcast was popping in my feed. Glad I didn't waste 3 hrs of this podcast. 🤣
Have you ever read pretty much ANY medal of honor recipients battlefield accomplishments? Go read some of those and then come back and tell me 26 kills isnt possible lol. This guy just sounds like a whiney gossiper with nothin but jealousy, i wouldnt trust anyone who lives his lives to run others down.
Tony must not be as vocal and argumentative as Ben; that would be why he didn’t get kicked out. Ben argued (to much?), and they kicked out one of the greatest shooters of all time.
I know what you mean when you talk about his demeanor telling these stories, his tone of voice and smile, it just seemed totally fishy and like BS the whole time he was telling these stories on SRS.
With your history of claiming Cowden is a USPSA cheat, one would naturally think he mentioned something in the Ryan interview that had to do with comp shooting and or your "allegations or facts". I figured you'd address the lies that "he told" about the USPSA stuff, which you would be in a position to know about, however you're calling him out for stories that you would have no way of knowing anything about. That's weird dude.
I used to watch some of his stuff and find Sean very boring. As for Tony, one of his stories that was released in a clip from the show was about he shot someone who put a gun to his head and the body guard. After listening to him describe it, I was like "wait, how did that go down?" It's like now way that went down without him being shot. And he left out some important details which Sean never asked for any clarification.
Tony doesn't give a fuck about the USPSA non-sense, and quite frankly, that's who your problem should be with. Tony doesn't write the rules or break them, someone at USPSA allows that to happen. There's a difference.
Stolen valor is presenting oneself as having been in the military even though you weren't. Some people are story tellers. As long as the story is not that you served when you didn't, there is no stolen valor.
I think it’s an awfully interesting coincidence that Tony goes on several podcasts and calls out the military industrial complex for frivolously, sending our young men to die for capital gains and the next week he’s attacked left, right and center to discredit his character. Wake up ladies and gentlemen.
I understandably don’t think that you are entitled to call bullshit on a guy that’s so respected in the special forces community😂 serving green berets wouldn’t refer to him as ‘uncle Tony’ if he was full of shit wouldn’t you agree?
If I call someone a liar and then they beat my ass because they’re better at fighting, does that make them not a liar? I’ve never understood that line of logic. Trial by combat and the gods deciding the truth isn’t a real thing, these guys know that, right?
Because Tony Cowden, like the political campaign he ran, is a fascist who believes in violently suppressing any dissenting voices or opinions that he feels insult him.
Texas has a law that makes it legal to shoot a man after dark to protect property. It's a relic from a time when stealing a man's horse could leave him stranded to die in the middle of nowhere or unable to work to feed himself and his family.
Similarly, fighting over being called a liar is a relic from a time when a man's word meant something and to sully a man's word amongst the community by calling him a liar could result in him being held slightly beneath the town drunk in social standing and unable to find work or business partners. It would have been far less of an insult to walk up and punch him square in the face, and the expectation was that an honest man would be so offended that he'd be willing to challenge the accuser to a duel to defend his name; not so much to prove he's telling the truth but to show that, liar or not, his word means something to him and he's willing to risk his life over it.
Sadly, duels ain't what they used to be.
It is if you know how to fight and win.
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're proving that you fear what he has to say
@@rodiculous9464 never heard that one, it’s perfect.
We’re not allowed to hold people accountable anymore because you know it will hurt their feelings. People can’t handle it anymore when they’re told they suck.
Imagine getting popped for PEDs in CrossFit. EVERYONE in CrossFit is juicing, you have to be trying real hard to get caught.
This was exactly what I thought. I love Elgintensity's recaps of the Crossfit Games, and I'm always mesmerized at how juiced to the gills the women are.
@@aggrodkreg4321I thought the point of CrossFit was like natural usable strength and movements. Why are they all juicing?
@@Cody2nd Because it's a competitive athletic sport, and people will take any advantage they possibly can to win, no exceptions.
@@Cody2ndbecause its a joke
@@aggrodkreg4321they're as close to being men as women can get without transitioning.
That’s so weird, my spidey senses were firing watching that one.
Shawn Ryan, I think, is well-intentioned, gullible and not all that bright.
im on the fence wether hes a gullible fool or just only cares about clicks and hence isnt questioning his guests as long as he can market their crazy stories for views
He’s just a bit naive about some aspects of the world. Very knowledgeable about others. People who goofed off on drugs and drinking a lot in high school, missed out on a lot of other, more nuanced aspects of life, as it turns out. Same with college. The most useful aspects of going to college, aren’t the classes, as much as what we learned about people, having to live with others, from different backgrounds, pursing different fields of interest, learning to compromise, live on our own, do our own laundry, live on a pittance, and to find a way to get along with eachother. No one mentions this part, but it is the most valuable aspect of college, and frankly, at least in the recent past, anyone who pursued college, had a base level of initiative, discipline and responsibility in high school, that allowed them to achieve the grades, (believe me, I’m no student, but I worked hard) to get into a decent college, in the first place. Many special forces and most enlisted military, join to get their crap together, as a last resort. Let’s be honest. The stoners were too stoned to pay attention to the rest of school, outside of class, as well.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdiedThat is the most ridiculous comment. You’re the type of person that thinks because they went to college they’re intelligent. You know, a lot of people have a driver’s license but don’t know how to parallel park!
Sick profile pic my dude
He's incredibly dumb and gullible. That's why he let a serial killer like Eddie Gallagher on his podcast to rehabilitate Eddie's image.
He's Joe Rogan without the charisma or humor.
Shawn Ryan has the best podcast on the internet. I listened to the podcast, and they didn't even mention USPSA.
He has some real b.s. artists on that show. Some seem certifiably nuts. Now Cowden’s interview was compelling and entertaining, and I don’t know whether this guy’s complaint is legit or not. It sounds gossipy. But some of those on Ryan’s show make some outrageous and silly claims.
@@hardheadjarheadI feel like some of them are plants….dude definitely still works for the CIA….I’d bet my left AND right nut on that.
shawn ryan has long left the serious route and is all in for exposure and money.
all these ufo nuts and other lying narcissists
i personally dont think he believes them but it makes it easier to find entertaining guests. theres no shortage of grifters and people looking for their 5min of fame.
@@hardheadjarheadwhich guests?
@@hardheadjarhead silly and outrageous is the US GOV
You guys should really talk about the new Antihero pod regarding O'Neill. Shawn Ryan has really gotten the viral recipe down, but man if he doesn't lend a voice to some complete crazies.
@@PoisonPlanet-nd5jp I like Matt but he has to be able to separate the good deep dive on O'Neill and his lies from Tucker's tactical takes. You can't always complain and criticize everyone (except your cult-friend who happens to have a bunch of followers).
Who's the cult friend? Not sure what you're even saying. You're talking about the anti hero podcast?
@@trueblue9101 Lucas Botkin is Matt's little cult friend.
🙄 someone still thinks regular Christians are Cults. 👌🏼
@@JEJAK5396 Quiverfull isn't the same as regular Christianity you m0ron.
Don't fight him have a 3 stage match winner take all! Nevermind he would just edit the scores 😂
Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or shit on anyone's service record but there is a reason why the 75th ranger regiment is the largest pipeline of candidates for Delta.. from my experience it's because it doesn't attract the type of personalities we are constantly seeing on the internet with seals, marsoc, GB's, constant circlejerk of narcist and egomaniacs and that shit isn't tolerated.
how do you know if someone is a seal? he will tell you
I disagree . Army special Forces soldiers, AKA Green Beret, are are quiet professional and quit humble. It doesn't attract the character you describe.
@@jacobpetion9073that’s exactly what he said.
@@iidawgg No, he didn't. He called Green Beret narcissist
@@LowKickMTLike a crimson charlie always lets you know he went to haaahvuhd.
Only thing missing is I guess Tony didn't fight off aliens too.
Never met him, but coming from someone who is active duty, his stories are a little too unreal. Also no one has backed any of his claims.
I know, he’s just so dopey.
Hahaha 🤣 Phony Coward blocked me too on Instagram back when I posted a lot of memes when his club of cronies got caught cheating blatantly, the match videos didn't match the scores and his feelings got hurt. When he wanted to run for an office position, made more memes about how fake he is to the rest of the public. He also wanted to fight but proceeded to block me and a few buddies. Real recognizes real in the end and he is as transparent as cling wrap with his stories.
I’m a “girl”, a former professor of fine arts at GWU in DC (quit in protest of woke) and middle aged, and happen to watch Shawn’s podcast (I’m a history and military buff, I know it’s weird), and I’d never even heard of this guy, but even I found him to be so dopey, such a big dumb dweeb, so obviously exaggerating, I had to turn his big, blabbering mouth, off. It comes across, to some of us, immediately.
All that cheating and he couldn't even cheat his way into local politics. Lol.
It wasn’t local. He tried to run for the House of Representatives. Thank God he didn’t even get the nomination and lost.
If Cowden’s stories have evolved, show us the evolution. Don’t tell us. Show us. I’m not going with allegations…give us evidence. Otherwise this is gossipy. And I mean it when I say… If this is true, I want to see evidence. I hate being lied to. I detest frauds.
Don’t work too hard on that on logic Buddy. Usually when you “call bullshit” you provide first-hand evidence of any allegations made and if you don’t, then everybody should laugh at you like a little girl that you are. And we are laughing.
@notetaking9308 I have no idea how you can call bullshit (and be taken seriously) just by saying "that's bullshit".
Yea making a whole video just to go on a rant with no way to back up ur claims is pretty weird, it’s female-like.
If i tell a story about shutting down a chineese police station in san fransisco when all i did was work on the building across the street do you think shawn ryan would have me on?
Only if you saw an alien also.
Tony sounds like an old roommate of mine. Dude has some bogus story for literally whatever you're doing. Bail out of a helicopter on BF4? He did it and the helicopter crashed and rolled over him and he's the only survivor, meanwhile Taliban was on the way and he fought them all off solo. Watching Blood Diamond? Yeah, we snuck off base and headed to Africa to take out a diamond mine boss. This dude even claimed to have invented Lancer AWMs and gave away the TDP out of the goodness of his heart so "Marines could have a better mag than the PMag".
USPSA Meat rider
He also fought 2 grizzly bears…. And won
Had a college roommate a little like that. And a different guy same school much more like that. Biggest fish any creek or river. Best baseball player who never got a scholarship. It never ends.
God bless Tony, real American hero. 🫡🪖🇺🇸
💯
Aparently not
Can we rename the PractiScore “edits” to “cowdens”?
And to think, this kid almost got cowden’d.
Here is my problem with your story,Ben. I don’t know you and have no affiliation with you other than having bought gear from your store at the recommendation of Tony. That all being said, you provide stories you heard from other unnamed people. We all know how that works in real life. Could Tony have enhanced some stuff ?Sure he could have, it happens to all of us to make a point or to “enhance” a story. To discredit Tony without providing any proof is the problem. I remember the problem with the practical pistol shooting stuff. He ought right said he manipulated scores, he had a reason which I don’t remember. The fact is he said he did something that could discredit himself. He didn’t lie or say it never happened. That association was one of the reasons I never got into shooting those matches. It was too game centric. Without a doubt it could enhance your shooting, it just wasn’t real world for me. Tony’s incident with the running gun fight is taught in certain places to show ways to fight CQB by yourself. It is documented to have happened and used as a teaching point. I can’t say everything happened the way portrayed as I wasn’t there. I do know that in incidents I have been involved in my understanding of the step by step evolution evolved as I moved farther away from the incident. You don’t remember some stuff linearly. It pops up in pieces and becomes clearer over time. I personally haven’t heard Tony brag about anything. He downplays most things. He is unique to say the least and I trust him. Can’t say much more than that in my opinion. So call him a liar, say you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy. Do your thing. But you can’t make a valid point without proof. Tony has done some extreme fitness stuff, such as running in 200 mile races. The two I am thinking of may have been longer distance, but he didn’t win and in one he damn near died. Who boasts about losing races? He just said I did this and this happened. The two I know about he left injured and in the one case near death. He then said I will be back to try again. He is a great instructor. He is a solid friend to those he choses as friends. State facts you can prove and I will support you. State stuff you heard from a guy or “they” said and I have problems with it.
In Tony’s last posted story (on Ben’s page) he states that “some guys were doing edits” and he “had no idea” so if he admitted actually doing it himself to you, now he’s walking that story further and further back. That doesn’t exactly scream integrity. And the CrossFit thing is documented. It sounds like you want to split hairs about “he cheated in X but there isn’t proof he cheated in Y” as a friend. But there are numerous witnesses to the USPSA thing as well as those who openly contradict that in subsequent matches Tony shot (his own quote) “consistent M and GM scores”. The consensus is that he was performing low B class at best.
Simple facts - Tony is a cheater, the probability of him being a liar is high 🤷🏻♂️
Ben has known about this guy for a long time and observed a consistent pattern and practice of dishonesty/ cheating in many ways, times, and sports. He's sharing what he personally knows and what multiple fact witnesses have shared with him that he found credible. I'm sure he neither has the time nor interest to lay out evidence and document all the specific testimony, witnesses, documentation, and electronic evidence. I'm also sure he is smart enough to know that you will believe what you want to believe regardless. Especially if you are already minimizing the massive amount of cheating he did on Practiscore.
Or he's a profiteer
I like Shawn and understand that having a guest on a show does not mean that he supports their agenda or agrees with them or believes them. However, I do wish he had a good research team to weed some of these guys out.
Been following Tony Cowden for years... rethink your stance
@@patriciaburkell8024 I would love to. Tell me what you know.
The smile you talk about is something I see. Sometimes its a coping mechanism, but Ive seen some fucked shit and trying to descibe it if I choose to tell someone I can't always keep it together.
With that said hes been blown up and in a coma and has memories come and go. Without a doubt he has been in the shit and killed guys, had bad things happen.
In combat so much happens and if you get concussed and rattled while fighting you go in and out. I don't think we should be as judgemental in his case.
Ben is throwing the Political Salesman Talk
True, 2 way fire and seeing injuries & death all around, it affects everyone. Everyone, differently. I had a 2d cousin psychologically ruined by a tour in Vietnam.
I believe what Tony said and i dont think Shawn would have anyone on his show that he thought was lying
Mr Ben, I don't know personally and I don't know who Tony is, but when I subscribed to your channel it was for the shooting information. But unfortunately all I see is grown men gossiping on the internet. If you or this Tony gentleman can't speak in person, then don't speak on it in public. This goes for Mr Tony as well. This is the problem with the internet. Everything does not have to be done in public.
At least you can bitch about other people bitching.
I agree I'm not sure who's right I hope Tony's story's are true but people don't need all this gossip , this country is become guilty before Proven innocent
LastNeander TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!
🍿🍿 Love it when people get called out for lying!
Leave tu lam alone, he's American, he can be anything he wants🏳🌈
USPSA wasnt even mentioned in the podcast? I listened to both episodes and either I missed it which is totally possible, or it isnt on there so idk man just idk
11:55 it’s fan favorites. Mike hit the scene when the real Gs we’re out working. He had time to build a following. Perhaps his bets were that the real ones weren’t going to make it out alive to account for actual events. As the saying gos “dead men tell no tales “ By Devine timing …one made it out.
I used to respect Tony until I saw the evidence of his cheating and how he got away with it. I really have nothing for the dude after he doxxed Lucas and laughed about it.
Ben should totally get interviewed by Ryan.
It would be a Shawn Ryan Roast.
Click bait bs. What does this have to do with Shawn Ryan show? Nothing about USPSA was brought up in the interview.
The Steven Seagal of the military?
💯
I think segal is actually a legit Master. Lol not kidding. He shot competitions in the 80’s and 90’s I think. Saw video of him shooting a 1911 and was very impressive
@@2AlphaCrew Seagal does legitimately know Aikido, and taught in Japan under Haruo Matsuoka.
EDIT: fat-fingered. The issue is that Seagal takes himself WAY too seriously.
If he knows aikido then aikido is trash
@@aggrodkreg4321 meh… it’s kinda lame af
His lack of integrity and willingness to dig his heels in the mud when caught is truly amazing
typical of that entire generation, honestly.
Maybe I missed something - What lack of integrity ?
@@scotttrujillo363 he cheated in USPSA competitions, over 20 times. Got caught going in and changing his scores several times over.
He also got caught cheating in the Crossfit games.
As a veteran, I don't have a bit of respect for the guy. People often think bc someone served that they're a good person, but that's nowhere near the truth. I've met some of the best and absolute worst people I've ever come across wearing the same uniform that I wore while I was in.
Not surprised, I unsubscribed from the Shawn Ryan show when he discredited himself with all the UFO nonsense.
I would love some sources, not saying you’re wrong but if you’re gonna call someone a lair you should provide proof of some kind.
The “few friends of Ben’s” referenced at 5:45 include career unit guys with whom Ben regularly teaches or collaborates for content. Guys that would have seen Tony or known of his exploits, were they accurate.
Kind of impossible to prove a negative by evidence, but considering the sources… it’s real-deal guys versus a multi-disciplinary cheater, so take that for what it’s worth.
This was insightful.
Man I don’t know who or what to believe anymore
Let’s wait to see the fall out from this podcast in a couple of weeks… No way real pipe hitters would not speak up about this if it’s BS right? I would hope that the “real ones” wouldn’t stand for this kind of thing especially if it’s has anything to do with their fallen brothers. I know if I heard someone spewing horse shit about my boys I would not hesitate to set the record straight regardless who was lying. It’s hard to believe anything these days unfortunately in the era of social clout being what it is and the things people will do for the admiration of strangers on the internet. Sad really…
Assume everything you are told are lies unless you can see it with your own two eyes. Repeat it, discuss it, but never claim it as truth unless you saw it and felt it.
@@kudzukid12this has nothing to do with the internet age. Its a human flaw. Whatever system we create we weaponize for power and influence. Especially the ambitious.
People in the past would fight over their local clout. Not much different.
The internet is an extention of humanity. Whatever issues you have with it is rooted in the human condition.
Making a TH-cam video to tear down someone you’ve never met…. 🤡🤡🤡
He's not only talking about Cowden he also mentions his favorite person Mike Glover 😁.. Who's next? Kyle Morgan? 😁
Isn't this guy in congress or running for congress?
He's running for Congress, yes. I found out when he started spewing the same tired narrative in the trailer for the Shawn Ryan podcast. I was wondering what he was selling.
@@aggrodkreg4321 no he isn’t. He was. He didn’t win nomination. Now he just sits around and tells fairy tales.
He didn't mention uspsa on the Shawn Ryan show though?
Htf is it possible for someone to edit their own scores on Practiscore? Like, how is that even a thing?
The system runs on honesty and integrity. If you have the tablet you can modify scores. You have to be able to as sometimes scoring errors happen. Most people are honest about it. A few people are not.
I'm not going to renew either. With the price increase and really not getting much to begin with I've cut out shooting matches so far this year. If something else starts up and it seems to be on the up and up I may start back up. However I'm getting up there in age so don't have many left anyway.
Good for you @benstoeger
10:30
Duper's delight.
Liars get a big smile before they tell a massive lie
You’re starting to sound obsessed.
Yep
He also has a 3rd Gen Glock 17 with 750k-1,000,000 rounds through with factory springs and all
I remember when this score changing drama happened but never knew who was behind it.
Imagine thinking that shooting at stationary objects on a one way range makes you an authority on CIA contract operations in a foreign country.
Thanks for this video. I was super confused why all the hate was floating around social media, but If this is all true, it makes sense.
Shawn has been having some real weird people on there. This Tony guy sounds jaded af.
Once a CIA employee always a CIA employee….he had all the ufo people on, and then boom the governments following suit weeks later….lol
@@Cody2nd Yep and people eat it up. Scrolling through the comments on his podcasts scares me.
"He got in trouble at work, for talking this way, I think" that made YOU sound like the liar. I mean, prove that he is lying. Instead of sitting here sounding like your feelings are hurt.
I watched the podcast. I don’t recall any mention of uspsa or you.
This is VERY interesting...
Get em ben 😂 love it
USPSA still hasn't thrown out all of the HFs from Tony's classifier matches have they?
His smile when telling that story about "...at least shoot me with a decent handgun" was painfully obvious 💩
All I know about shawn Ryan is that his glocks shoot low left. Hadn’t listened to him since
🤭
What's the joke I'm missing out on?
Low left is a common problem with novice shooters. pushing into the gun anticipating recoil. hope that helps@@kasey7673
It's an industry inside joke where the shooter blames everything the firearm does on the gun. Instead of it being a shooter skills issue.
@@kasey7673
@@kasey7673from what i can see online and stuff when you shoot with a glock and it hit low and left then youre basically a noob. So, an ex navy seal and cia operator shooting low left with a glock is ironic i guess
I watched some bits of the podcast and there is a lot of eyebrow raising before even listening to the second half of this.
Speak on it then. What raised your eyebrows?
What does what you are talking about, this has nothing to do with the SRS
Damn! Cheated in CrossFit and running? Please provide sources so I can share.
Pitty what Shawn Ryan’s show became. Was really good in the earlier years. Now it just seems like anyone who can tell some outrageous story can be on it. Guess I can’t blame Shawn too much. A lot of people do stuff for ratings and he does have a family to support.
UFO 👽 Aliens and lying seals 😂 dupes love that stuff
He even hosted Ramasawmy the Vaxx/Pharma shill. SHAME!
Bro the alien stuff was the nail in the coffin for me… imagine being a functional adult who takes that sh-t seriously.
Yeah makes you question most the people's stories on there.
You can when he's a hypocrite about it.
USPSA is a dumpster fire! Glad I didn’t renew my membership.
IDPA!
Chuck definitely shot someone with a handgun it was his brother-in-law.
I smell a guy making a random video with buzzwords that are popular trying to mooch others popularity. This dude randomly says oh ya that stories a lie “like ya it’s funny because it’s so crazy” this is 100% some dude mooching views.
Shawn Ryan has openly stated that his podcast is an open platform if you don't like the people he has on then don't watch his podcast.
The way I see it is if there was anybody that would know enough to say he's full of shit it would be Shawn Ryan. As opposed to if someone like Joe Rogan interviewed him, Shawn Ryan is from that SF world and knows alot about the subject and that community.
Why did they kick you out?
Tony Baloney 🤣
What happened to X-ray alpha channel? All the videos are removed (at least for me)
Ben, how do you know, factually, that Tony is lying? It seems that there's a beef between you two. Hard for people like me to know who is telling the truth. The fact that you've never been in the military makes me question your comments on anything related to the military. Then again, I don't know Tony, and you happen to be correct that some military men exaggerate their accomplishments.
Ya i couldnt listen to him on shawn ryan he seemed awfully full of himself
Well with some people how much is lies and how much is just their memory is wack because of TBI and it's not intentional
Soooo...no SOF background Ven?
Shawn Ryan has these people who make their way on the show who are not credible.
But muh upside down horse shoe grip. God I fuckin hate cowden
When is part 2
Dude the faqing story he told... Get the faq out of here. The only person I know that went thru a teaumatic experience and remembered every detail. C'mon man. No way Ryan believed all that shyt
Lol yeah the story about Tony and one other dude catching a flight out of Kabul to turkey ditching his team in country to go party in turkey. Lol wtf 😂🤦🏻♂️ who believe that shit. And the one man vs 26 insurgent story. Cmon man that’s lone survivor all over again. Tall tales say it was 200 vs 4 when reality it’s a couple dozen dudes maybe with mg’s and knowledge of the land and terrain vs 4 dudes who were pinned down in a shitty spot by a lot of firepower
I remember back in the day when he was trying to copy the Dan Crenshaw shtick. And we all bought it, thinking he was going to be different from all the other politicians. He didn’t win the campaign but all of the sudden was pro red flag laws and hardcore pro war for 🇮🇱. Basically pulled a Crenshaw. I think SRS is pretty astroturfed honestly but it does some good. They’ll never really challenge the narrative in meaningful ways tho (hence all the corny UFO stuff of late).
Tony seems real to me.
Did I watch the same video
Nice unicorn shirt
Man I missed the big Doodie energy.
I didnt know steven segal had a cousin lmao
I figured immediately 26 kills single handedly was bullshit and I was wondering why this podcast was popping in my feed. Glad I didn't waste 3 hrs of this podcast. 🤣
Have you ever read pretty much ANY medal of honor recipients battlefield accomplishments? Go read some of those and then come back and tell me 26 kills isnt possible lol. This guy just sounds like a whiney gossiper with nothin but jealousy, i wouldnt trust anyone who lives his lives to run others down.
Tony must not be as vocal and argumentative as Ben; that would be why he didn’t get kicked out. Ben argued (to much?), and they kicked out one of the greatest shooters of all time.
Tony threatened to sue them and kept his membership as a result
Say it to his face.. #srs
I know what you mean when you talk about his demeanor telling these stories, his tone of voice and smile, it just seemed totally fishy and like BS the whole time he was telling these stories on SRS.
I know a guy named Tony, he's got a bunch of Tony stories too. Maybe it's a Tony thing?
Definitely
Cowden has decades of combat experience. What do u have stoeger? A bad attitude and a problem w vets?
You also sound like a winey baby
Cope and seethe
All of stoeger’s accusations are hearsay and he’s slandering a vet who, by the way, has way more practical shooting experience than this runny turd
You mean besides 8 US National USPSA Championships, and a World IPSC Championship?
Ya, shooting paper targets on a flat range is really tough!! Until you've been in the sand box, shut the hell up.@@davereloader8837
well at least the "delta twins" aka the spooner brothers back up tu lam lol, some of the shxt tony say's is fuxkin wild to say the least.
Who are you?
How do we really know this guys truth full as well I mean the North Carolina stuff is true
With your history of claiming Cowden is a USPSA cheat, one would naturally think he mentioned something in the Ryan interview that had to do with comp shooting and or your "allegations or facts". I figured you'd address the lies that "he told" about the USPSA stuff, which you would be in a position to know about, however you're calling him out for stories that you would have no way of knowing anything about. That's weird dude.
I used to watch some of his stuff and find Sean very boring. As for Tony, one of his stories that was released in a clip from the show was about he shot someone who put a gun to his head and the body guard. After listening to him describe it, I was like "wait, how did that go down?" It's like now way that went down without him being shot. And he left out some important details which Sean never asked for any clarification.
Anyone has the link and at what point he mentioned Ben?
Tony doesn't give a fuck about the USPSA non-sense, and quite frankly, that's who your problem should be with. Tony doesn't write the rules or break them, someone at USPSA allows that to happen. There's a difference.
Sounds like your accusing him of Stolen Valor. Hope you have some proof cuz those are some pretty heavy accusations.
Stolen valor is presenting oneself as having been in the military even though you weren't. Some people are story tellers. As long as the story is not that you served when you didn't, there is no stolen valor.
I think it’s an awfully interesting coincidence that Tony goes on several podcasts and calls out the military industrial complex for frivolously, sending our young men to die for capital gains and the next week he’s attacked left, right and center to discredit his character. Wake up ladies and gentlemen.
Amen
I understandably don’t think that you are entitled to call bullshit on a guy that’s so respected in the special forces community😂 serving green berets wouldn’t refer to him as ‘uncle Tony’ if he was full of shit wouldn’t you agree?
I wish Cowden would challenge me to a fight. I don’t even care if I lose. Lol
I’m a girl, and I feel the same way. He’s just such a complete doofus.
You would trust me