Thanks for watching everyone. You can watch the full episode with Bob Poras on here th-cam.com/video/0xEQiIeRbUk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sWYX4cY6GxOIjUmf Additionally if you want to support the Shawn Ryan Show you can join the community. www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite
I can say for sure that if I was a staffer coming in to a leadership position of men with actual combat experience at their level of expertise, I would defer to their leadership and advice and learn as much from them as I possibly could. Nothing else makes sense to me. I do know that there is a lot that I don't know. I don't know how much I don't know but I do know that they know more than I know about what they know!😊 To sum it up, big egos don't stop bullets.
You, sir, are a wise man who knows that one aspect of good leadership is knowing when to let the experts on your team step up and shine Unfortunately, a lot of people let their egos take over & don't know when that time comes
Having thirty-two years of government experience, thirteen as a supervisor, I've seen a lot of this 'management hiring mentality'. It's just scary when one realizes, it's in place, for the most critical (and life threatening) agencies.
its intentionally put in place as part of the larger agenda to destabilize the country the people at the top of the intel agencies and mil-complex are sociopaths they are promoted and selected because they are sociopaths but they arent actually in charge of anything they are taking their orders from the real "deep state" the think tanks and elites that own washington DC, all the politicians, and the military industrial complex when someone like General Milley or Sec. Austin is promoted they are promoted because they weak and incompetent. They wont ask questions and do what they are told by the real "people" in charge"
This work dynamic can also be seen in all civilian business organizations. Lots of middle managers that cannot do the operational work. They just manage people even though great people doesn’t need to be managed. People just need to be inspired as #SteveJobs once put it, in one of his early days interviews.
In my first year of college I thought I wanted to be a psychiatrist and work for the CIA with an interest in black site operations. Only way to join was through military affiliation. Suffice to say it was disappointing considering I had chosen to go to college and was committed, at the time, rather than enlisting at 18. But also considering the crazy shi the CIA/military does and my own interests in the macabre, I’m actually grateful for the filtering process.
The mentality of “leadership” is not only wrong in the government it has either trickled down or comes from the private sector as well. “Led by the unknowing, serving the ungrateful”. Quota hires, and college degrees don’t always translate to good leaders, and sadly actual good leaders don’t match up with the corporate model of today. This is why we’ve seen incompetence and just complete lack of awareness of what’s really going on from management in most companies.
This seems to be exceptionally common throughout the government. One of the things that stood out to me reading 13 Hours was that the 5 members of Diplomatic Security Team added altogether had less combat experience than a *single* average GWOT infantryman. Who tf are they hiring? Why tf would they place those people in that situation and believe that everything would work out just fine? Stupidity at its finest.
@@Nofacenocase1619 what are they or where can I find them? I’ve known a couple people who were GRS but we’ve never talked about their selection process.
Given what we knowvof the CIA over the past 75 years, i wouldn't be proud to be associated with the organization. They're almost in the same league as the KGB, Stazi, the SD, etc.
That is a very unpatriotic comment and I’m afraid that I’ll have to report you to my superiors for a referral to a FISA court for appropriate action. In the meantime you will have an as of yet, undetermined amount of points subtracted from your social credit score.
@@jayhara6038 I served 34 years in my countries Navy. I'm Canadian. Accepting the ultimate risk does not give on the right to be unethical, dishonest, and, especially where the use of force is concerned, driven by a political ideology as has been happening over the past few decades. I get it, there are many good agents, just like there are many good cops, but having the power to legally end someone's life comes with great responsibility, and I don't see many agencies accepting any responsibility. Can you name one person in the CIA, FBI, or other agency who has been held to account for any of the deadly mistakes made in the past 30 years?
Been there! It was obvious.. NO sense.. never 'Run', and No Oversight with any advancement as an objective. Now.. The REAL question, "Contractor.. or Advisor"? A whole NEW Topic, baby! That being said.. THIS video is sadly SO 'pretend' Classified.. it RUINS the WHOLE thing!
I respect you Shawn my father is a Navy Veteran just like you he served in Vietnam .As he said there are two kind of people in the cia operators and administrator and all administrator are dumbasses plain and simple .
Thanks for watching everyone. You can watch the full episode with Bob Poras on here th-cam.com/video/0xEQiIeRbUk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sWYX4cY6GxOIjUmf Additionally if you want to support the Shawn Ryan Show you can join the community. www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite
"You can't manage somebody into battle; you must lead them."
I can say for sure that if I was a staffer coming in to a leadership position of men with actual combat experience at their level of expertise, I would defer to their leadership and advice and learn as much from them as I possibly could. Nothing else makes sense to me. I do know that there is a lot that I don't know. I don't know how much I don't know but I do know that they know more than I know about what they know!😊 To sum it up, big egos don't stop bullets.
I know that you know that I know that you know that I know. Who’s on first/What’s on second
I also know, about you knowing, that I know, that he knows, about us both knowing.......@@richardtibbetts574
@@richardtibbetts574 we're good then.
You, sir, are a wise man who knows that one aspect of good leadership is knowing when to let the experts on your team step up and shine
Unfortunately, a lot of people let their egos take over & don't know when that time comes
I don’t know you or where you are in life, but they could use someone with your mindset, if you have any desire to go for it at all.
Having thirty-two years of government experience, thirteen as a supervisor, I've seen a lot of this 'management hiring mentality'. It's just scary when one realizes, it's in place, for the most critical (and life threatening) agencies.
Same in corporate life. There's an assumption you can manage without domain expertise - complete nonsense. It destroys businesses and kills people.
its intentionally put in place as part of the larger agenda to destabilize the country
the people at the top of the intel agencies and mil-complex are sociopaths
they are promoted and selected because they are sociopaths
but they arent actually in charge of anything
they are taking their orders from the real "deep state"
the think tanks and elites that own washington DC, all the politicians, and the military industrial complex
when someone like General Milley or Sec. Austin is promoted they are promoted because they weak and incompetent. They wont ask questions and do what they are told by the real "people" in charge"
Just another reason to purge the CIA and put nonpolitical competent operators in!
Lol, then it wouldn’t achieve the purpose of the agency.
Higher education will NEVER trump ability and common sense.
😂 About 40% of GRS was not in combat arms… He’ll worked on a team with Ninja where we had a Navy Master at Arms, Navy BM, and a cop.
This was one of the best interviews you have ever done, although they are all great!
criminals basically
I have relinquished ever so slightly my initial impression of this interview...considering re watching it. Have a great day :P
I love how he says “That kind of work”. Instead of contract killer lol
Benevolence over deception.
This conversation is so gated.
You don't do an interview like this unless the company has a reason for you to do it.
Yup.
@onlyhonestpersononyoutube yeah I could listen for a bit. Thumbs down. 👎🏻
Precisely
What are you expecting, the agency to just spill all the beans on a TH-cam podcast? All for your entertainment? That's special...
@@orderofthedragon3109 wtf are you talking about?
This work dynamic can also be seen in all civilian business organizations. Lots of middle managers that cannot do the operational work.
They just manage people even though great people doesn’t need to be managed. People just need to be inspired as #SteveJobs once put it, in one of his early days interviews.
Imagination is in control
In my first year of college I thought I wanted to be a psychiatrist and work for the CIA with an interest in black site operations. Only way to join was through military affiliation. Suffice to say it was disappointing considering I had chosen to go to college and was committed, at the time, rather than enlisting at 18. But also considering the crazy shi the CIA/military does and my own interests in the macabre, I’m actually grateful for the filtering process.
Sounds like State Department Agents going to MSD
The mentality of “leadership” is not only wrong in the government it has either trickled down or comes from the private sector as well. “Led by the unknowing, serving the ungrateful”. Quota hires, and college degrees don’t always translate to good leaders, and sadly actual good leaders don’t match up with the corporate model of today. This is why we’ve seen incompetence and just complete lack of awareness of what’s really going on from management in most companies.
This seems to be exceptionally common throughout the government.
One of the things that stood out to me reading 13 Hours was that the 5 members of Diplomatic Security Team added altogether had less combat experience than a *single* average GWOT infantryman. Who tf are they hiring? Why tf would they place those people in that situation and believe that everything would work out just fine? Stupidity at its finest.
You should see the qualifications to get hired at GRS 😂
@@Nofacenocase1619 what are they or where can I find them? I’ve known a couple people who were GRS but we’ve never talked about their selection process.
@@tmmccormick86 google “GRS Contractors PDF” and you she see a link to their catalog
What is a "staffer"?
Yessss
Given what we knowvof the CIA over the past 75 years, i wouldn't be proud to be associated with the organization. They're almost in the same league as the KGB, Stazi, the SD, etc.
The only discernment to "almost" seems the citizenship to which one belongs.
@@jayhara6038 I'm not emotional, just noting that hypocrisy and a desire to dominate one's own citizens are, in my eyes, less than honourable traits.
That is a very unpatriotic comment and I’m afraid that I’ll have to report you to my superiors for a referral to a FISA court for appropriate action. In the meantime you will have an as of yet, undetermined amount of points subtracted from your social credit score.
lol
@@jayhara6038 I served 34 years in my countries Navy. I'm Canadian. Accepting the ultimate risk does not give on the right to be unethical, dishonest, and, especially where the use of force is concerned, driven by a political ideology as has been happening over the past few decades. I get it, there are many good agents, just like there are many good cops, but having the power to legally end someone's life comes with great responsibility, and I don't see many agencies accepting any responsibility. Can you name one person in the CIA, FBI, or other agency who has been held to account for any of the deadly mistakes made in the past 30 years?
Do they have to swear an oath to a rainbow flag with a 6 point star at a drag show?
🤣
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN!!
Satire? If not, hop off Fox News for a while lol
Because you have to be a psychopath first.
Been there!
It was obvious.. NO sense.. never 'Run', and No Oversight with any advancement as an objective.
Now.. The REAL question, "Contractor.. or Advisor"? A whole NEW Topic, baby!
That being said.. THIS video is sadly SO 'pretend' Classified.. it RUINS the WHOLE thing!
clandestin
the CIA does not sound or look good to me
the Mossad , Shin bet is a lot more professional.
Master Manipulation
👍🏽👍🏽
Yes dead
I respect you Shawn my father is a Navy Veteran just like you he served in Vietnam .As he said there are two kind of people in the cia operators and administrator and all administrator are dumbasses plain and simple .