Making A Vintage Machinist Die Filer - Part One

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  • @zhookeeper
    @zhookeeper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude. I can watch your stuff all day. You used to just make me want to buy cheap Chinese pens... Now I want to spend big money on a mill. Keep up the fantastic work. 👍

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers. i still do that, I just havnt found anything super interesting from china in the recent months.

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for owning up to the milling error. It’s refreshing to see that such mistakes do happen in the real world. 👏👏👍😀

  • @rockynation123
    @rockynation123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is one of my fave to watch reminds me of click spring

  • @سيدسيد-ص3م4ب
    @سيدسيد-ص3م4ب 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool work sir 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent project.Thank you.

  • @michaelcerkez3895
    @michaelcerkez3895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like what you're doing. I can tell you that "climb milling" will grab your work and make it walk across it. You also have a good chance of breaking an end mill or dislocating a vice. Please look it up on the internet or in a book.

  • @andrewbarney5503
    @andrewbarney5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! Been wanting one of these for awhile. Really looking forward to this. Will need to add this to my DIY tools list.

  • @homemadetools
    @homemadetools 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great project. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week :)

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching you fly cut that annoying bowed edge is as pleasing as hearing you say "square". ;-)

  • @joell439
    @joell439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great execution 👍😎👍

  • @YooProjects
    @YooProjects 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks interesting. Waiting for the final product.

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankyou, this project took a little longer than expected, but it should be completed in the next week or so. Cheers

  • @BeachsideHank
    @BeachsideHank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a bunch of cast iron plate weights people in my 'hood just kick to the curb, this looks like a good use for the right one as a base, I think I'd first chain drill for the upright, knock out the slug and then mill to square. This is still a valuable shop tool, with diamond grit rasps, you can shape even depleted uranium with it, looking forward to the rest of the build.☺

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great project, had to subscribed don't wonta miss part #2.

  • @clintchapman4319
    @clintchapman4319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work! You would really benefit if you used a milling vice. These little machines need every advantage you can throw at them.

  • @kemet-son
    @kemet-son 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful 👌

  • @JoZf_Gibson
    @JoZf_Gibson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci

  • @andrewsmith8388
    @andrewsmith8388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subed. I'm part way through the hemingway kits die filer for my myford 7. I agree about costs of shipping to au/ nz....

    • @davfew
      @davfew 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was looking a that one too, idea of shipping costs???

    • @andrewsmith8388
      @andrewsmith8388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davfew Logic would say postage cost too much but it comes with three castings (two cast iron and one aluminium), bearings and all the bits and pieces. Bought Dec 2020 kits £83 plus postage £117 but minus VAT and I didn't pay nz gst. Actual cost £167 but I though it would be good for 10 years plus, I get to learn how to clean up castings and the big plus for me of includes all the raw materials so I can just get on with project rather than spending hours sourcing materials. My local metal dealers aren't open on weekends so work makes visiting tricky... $nz325 in real money.

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds about right for the postage costs that I looked at. Not sure why but postage from America to Aus is a lot more than sending something to America.

  • @davidtaylor6124
    @davidtaylor6124 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on you for having a go at making your own!
    I can't see it will matter if the column is perpendicular to the base or not. Perhaps you could mill the part the table attaches to while it's all assembled so it's top is parallel to the base?

  • @jrkorman
    @jrkorman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice - I can see this project being quite useful. I think I first saw one on Chris' Clickspring channel and have wanted one since! Looking forward to the next part!

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing like an Aussie saying, "Perpendicular". So soothing. ;-)

  • @garyshirinian
    @garyshirinian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi thx for sharing. I liked watching your videos however I've been looking to make my own and you inspired me.
    Do you share drawings. I may make one for my self someday. Thx.

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc2742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make you a powered hacksaw :)
    Very nice setup so far!
    Keep em coming!!!!

  • @howder1951
    @howder1951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, I have always been intrigued by a die filer and they do look like a nice square edge is their specialty. Enjoyed the video, thanks and cheers!

  • @AdeSwash
    @AdeSwash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, really enjoyed watching this, super project you have there, something I'd like to build myself sometime, I look forward to following along with the build, good luck :) Regards. Ade

  • @williamsworkshopuk
    @williamsworkshopuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah yes "The Filer" :)

  • @tattoos1988
    @tattoos1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi everyone could I ask what is a die filer what’s it used for this is a great series and I am looking forward to the next video thank you for sharing your work is amazing all the best

    • @josephwaldner7752
      @josephwaldner7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its a reciprocal machine in which a file is mounted and if you've ever hand filing you will know the advantages

    • @tattoos1988
      @tattoos1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephwaldner7752 thanks for the info yeah I hand file all the time I’m going to look into making one of these lol thanks

  • @pauldevey8628
    @pauldevey8628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!

  • @jackdawg4579
    @jackdawg4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no idea how this thing is going to work, a bit intriguing really! Looking forward to part 2.

  • @nullsnaggle5198
    @nullsnaggle5198 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a ball/concave turner after this project?

  • @emmanuelgoldstein319
    @emmanuelgoldstein319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for the next episode, subbed!

  • @SukottoSama
    @SukottoSama 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a series on a diy mill? without using your mill or lathe...

  • @lironxm
    @lironxm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stop justifying every decision you make or the tools you have, everyone and their setup!
    You're doing a great job, love your content!

  • @awashbowler
    @awashbowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you plan on at a minimum loctite on those bushings because they aren't going to do much with a loose fit like that.

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do mention that they will be fixed in place in the final build. Cheers

  • @stephenrose9154
    @stephenrose9154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyable video - where do you buy your metals here in Australia?

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am based in NSW and buy my stuff either from ebay sellers or from a company called EDCON steel

  • @topanteon
    @topanteon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please go buy a bandsaw? At least the 50$ Parkside one.

  • @jpsimon206
    @jpsimon206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you planning to use socketed files?

  • @matthewphillips1728
    @matthewphillips1728 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another having wanted one for ages,would love to know we’re you got the materials from, as I’m based in Melbourne

    • @HairyNumbNuts
      @HairyNumbNuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know where he got them from but they're all pretty common. If you have no luck in Mexico, I can recommend edconsteel.com.au in Sydney for mail order at reasonable shipping prices.

  • @yak-machining
    @yak-machining 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please dude, just use a angle grinder or buy yourself a metal bandsaw.
    It makes me insane to see that you cut it with a hacksaw😂😂😂

    • @bobweiram6321
      @bobweiram6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For small pieces, a hacksaw is faster since there's less setup time.

    • @dontnubblemebro
      @dontnubblemebro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobweiram6321 I disagree. Hacksaws definitely have their place, but in this instance a grinder, abrasive chop saw, Portaband or normal bandsaw is a faster choice. Setup time for my horizontal bandsaw is all of a minute assuming it needs squaring.

  • @wizrom3046
    @wizrom3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't you face the cast iron disc in the lathe?

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a bit big for my lathe so it had to be done on the mill

    • @wizrom3046
      @wizrom3046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artisanmakes thanks for the reply!
      Yeah I've got a 7x12 minilathe too. It can be hard to fit larger stuff in there.
      One really useful thing I made was a 7 inch aluminium face plate, it has a round shaft that fits in the chuck and a 7 inch faced-off plate on it.
      Then it can be used for facing off anything up to about 7 inch in size, provided you can fix the item to the plate.
      A lot of the blocks of steel you are flycutting in the mill I would fix onto the lathe and face them, it's fast and makes a really nice finish, and chips are easier to clean etc.
      Anyway, great channel, cheers! 👍🙂

  • @jpsimon206
    @jpsimon206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there, nice project! I've been interested in die filers since seeing one on Mr Pete. I have long thought about building one. As it happens, I have an absolutely enormous old scroll saw, essentially just the casting. I'm considering converting it to a dye filer. One of my concerns is that I would wear out files early because of the short stroke length. All of the dye filers I have seen seem to take a very short stroke, two to three inches. They also tend to use those small socket files. I would prefer to be able to use traditional files because of the wide access to different profiles. Having now built and used one, can I ask your thoughts on this plan? Have you considered a mounting system to accept traditional files? Any input you have would be appreciated, there is not a lot of people to consult about these rare machines

  • @TheIntermont
    @TheIntermont 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice, pushing the limits of your small tools. I wouldn’t remachine the base. Fill the mill gouges with epoxy putty and give it a coat of paint :-)

  • @sparkiekosten5902
    @sparkiekosten5902 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tend too use a milling cutter to countersink holes for bolts and the like a three or 4 flute. It leaves a nice flat edge for the bolt to snug up to! I don't own a mill...yet, but have found it worked for me on my drill press.
    Where did you score a large piece of cast from?
    I am in QLD and could use the help to source my own pieces for projects. I tend to hound the recycling yards for scrap pieces of steel to build up my stock!
    Keep up the good work.

  • @louiestark
    @louiestark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there plans for this?

  • @letsgoBrandon204
    @letsgoBrandon204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd be tempted to find out how to make my own bronze, but then I'd just be smelting metals all the time and not machining

    • @josephwaldner7752
      @josephwaldner7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont know the ratio i am sure you find it online but its a mixture of brass and tin

    • @letsgoBrandon204
      @letsgoBrandon204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@josephwaldner7752 I thought it was copper and tin with a bunch of other bits like phosphorus. I'm thinking up a whole new hobby here, must stop myself.

  • @SRCCgames
    @SRCCgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate, I have been wanting to get into machining and was wondering where you get your stock from in Aus?

    • @matthewkenchapman
      @matthewkenchapman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are you in aus and what stock are you looking for?

    • @SRCCgames
      @SRCCgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewkenchapman I'm in Syd, looking for brass and aluminium round stock for a mini lathe

    • @matthewkenchapman
      @matthewkenchapman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SRCCgames I don't know of any Sydney specific suppliers, but ebay is my go to for brass,you can get good ally from there too, but a local supplier would be easier

    • @TABE-O
      @TABE-O 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edcon steel try them

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edcon steel are a great source for hobbyists to get small amounts of stock cut to length.

  • @SergeiPetrov
    @SergeiPetrov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need angle plate

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know that, normally I'd be able to borrow one from a friend but not at the moment. Plus tooling is expensive and all so I tried to wing it here.

  • @celestialbeas9214
    @celestialbeas9214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where did you get that piece of cast iron? it looks like the continuous cast my company makes. :P
    All i do is drill rought cut holes.

    • @HM-Projects
      @HM-Projects 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you sell retail ? Got a link. The stuff I buy is usually imported from China.

  • @jpsimon206
    @jpsimon206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since you used brass, it doesn't matter that you didn't have a reamer. If you put a heavy grease like molybdenum or lithium, turning a steel pin back and forth a dozen times will clean it just as well as a reamer because it is so soft

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wanted to use a reamer primarily to get the hole to size. My 1/2" twist drill is a little undersized. In the end boring worked out just fine.

  • @alexrogers9086
    @alexrogers9086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been making my own out of scrap

  • @neillawson4493
    @neillawson4493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most small mill's like yours and mine (and many large ones as well) can have their head rotated so that it is horizontal. This then means you can do a job, like the one where the base slipped, with the work mounted horizontally. There are limitations on the size of the part but it may be a useful option for the future.

    • @BeachsideHank
      @BeachsideHank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Pete states he'd rather take a whipping then having to re- tram the head.

  • @gangleweed
    @gangleweed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any time you have to go that high use an angle plate.....your vice is nothing to write home bout, it's OK for use on a drilling machine.

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would certainly be the plan in the future. Still running pretty light on tooling for the mill, having only recently bought it, and tooling costing what it does. Cheers

  • @cho4d
    @cho4d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 aussie youtube makers with die filer vids in as many days. was it on purpose?? haha nice video anyway :)

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I'm not aware of who else you are referring to about making die filers.

    • @idefender2k
      @idefender2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@artisanmakes th-cam.com/video/0yqEaJrkKu0/w-d-xo.html I'm subscribed to both of you, I'm excited to see how it goes with both of your projects.

    • @cho4d
      @cho4d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@idefender2k yep thats the one!

    • @NACAM42
      @NACAM42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if you want to feel inadequate you can always watch the Clickspring video on it.

  • @ccaldwell8556
    @ccaldwell8556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was that a shop-made fly cutter? I would love to see you make one!

  • @jpsimon206
    @jpsimon206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you go with cast iron for a particular reason? Resonance dampening? Or was it just the most accessible?

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little bit of both. The cast iron was the most affordable solution for getting such a big base and easy for me to obtain. Plus Cast iron is a much nicer material to machine than the other carbon steels I was looking at. Cheers

  • @gangleweed
    @gangleweed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, if you intend doing any significant metal removal you need to have the right tooling........no matter what it cost, but not by buying the very best that an expert would invest in, your tooling will determine the outcome of any project.
    A milling vice with a 100mm wide jaw (depending on the size of your mill) would be the very first buy at about A$100 and a set of parallels comes into that must have category too.
    Next buy would be a collet chuck and a set of collets......the list is endless, but making a start with the right stuff is the important bit to get you onto the starting line.......God bless the Chinese and EBAY, I'm probably a major shareholder.

  • @jsblacksmith858
    @jsblacksmith858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will there be plans available in some way?

    • @netpackrat
      @netpackrat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Martin Models will sell the plans for theirs separately from their casting set. The drawings are obviously based around using their castings, but there is no reason you couldn't use them as the basis for making one from stock.

  • @machineshopatthebottomofth3213
    @machineshopatthebottomofth3213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great. I build something similar, but powered by my lathe. Check out my channel to see the video of it running.

  • @juli1563
    @juli1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice video but please do not use a measuring stick for marking the holes.

    • @artisanmakes
      @artisanmakes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I personally don't see too much of an issue. The jaws are made from hardened steel, it's scratching a fine line in alcohol marker and these are cheapo $10 calipers. I would never do them with my mitutoyos, but with these, it makes working out easier and quicker, even if it's not good for them. Cheers

    • @juli1563
      @juli1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artisanmakes Just want to say. Love your videos. You show people that you also can do something whith smaler maschines. I make an education as an metallsit. We learn a lot about mesuring. The thing is if you juse your calliper it damage the thing only a bit. But if you do this more the masureings are a bit wrong. There a tools. (Dont now the name (--;) it locks like a caliper but has a surface where you can use an criber.

    • @cavemaneca
      @cavemaneca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@artisanmakes I don't know why TH-cam commenters are always so stuck up about this. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using cheap calipers for layout. I've even seen some people use Mitutoyos for it, though those people probably have enough money to consider them disposable.

    • @BeachsideHank
      @BeachsideHank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavemaneca It's because they live in the past, today everything is a throwaway.

  • @gary851
    @gary851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK, now you just cut stock by hand just to mess with me...

  • @woodworks5009
    @woodworks5009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 40 sec

  • @woodworks5009
    @woodworks5009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First lol