Let's Build a Die Filer! - Part 1
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- This episode on Blondihacks, I’m starting to build a die filer! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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Hey everyone- yes, obviously I mis-spoke on the drill size that I used to enlarge the 1/2” hole. It was some weird number of 64ths. I hope if you ever say something off-hand in a joke that isn’t correct, people will be kind to you about it and move on with their lives.
I was more offended by the lack of a shot of you with a coffee mug while power feeding that base plate flat. 🤣
Imperial fist shake?
Thanks for the great content. I really appreciate it.
Drop everything, someone said something wrong on the internet, deploy armchair opinions and corrections! *inhale* "Well, actually..."
Your videos are SO much fun to watch! Thank you for sharing all the travails of your journey as well. You are MUCH too smart, skilled, strong, and beautiful to ever need to be the least bit fragile or defensive whenever you encounter the meanest assholes coming out of their sewer-holes. Just remember we are all on your side. They can never get to you past us all.
best thing in a video is reading "part" in the title
I thought the best thing was listening to the "thumbs at me" gesture. 🙂
I'm 81 years old, started out with the aim of becoming a tool and die maker, but shifted to science and had a long and satisfying career in the laboratory. Nonetheless, the part of me that wanted to be a machinist never died and I love experiencing the joys and frustrations of fabricating and taking on all kinds of projects vicariously through your channel. 'Thank you kindly for your efforts to share your work with us.
You are never too old to follow your dreams/ desires. Go find a lathe and start making some things. Every day you wait is one more day not spent enjoying a new hobby.
The desire to make things often seems to run in families, so you may have some kids/ grandkids who also want to learn, and would love to spend some time in a shop with you, even if that shop is just a small corner of a garage/ basement. Some of my best memories as a kid are making/fishing/building things with my dad. I'm in my 30's and still have vivid memories from ~4 years old helping my dad finish a bonus room in the house they still live in (it had an unfinished bonus room when they bought it).
I went to NTMA in LA for the tool and die maker apprentice program and ended up in the Army and then construction, go figure. life is like a box of chocolates. lol.
Yep, go and buy a lathe. If nothing else, get one of those Chinese mini lathes. It's both a tool and a project all in one. I just got one for myself. Lots of little projects on that machine to turn it into a good machine.
My first project is a set of 8 standoffs to allow me to space the arms of my office chair out a couple of inches. Turning those in steel and then will nickle plate them for fun.
@@oldfarthacks I may do that. Sounds like fun. Thanks.
👍🏻👍🏻
I feel like machining is a dance between figuring out how to not screw it up and figuring out how to recover from screwing up. This was a great video with all of the above.
That description covers it pretty accurately....don't forget to include the prolonged periods of holding your breath with fingers crossed etc.😂
So, you have been watching me do machining have you?
When I was an apprentice back in the '80s one of old hands said to me, "A tradesman is not someone who knows all the tricks and never makes mistakes, he's just someone who knows how to make his mistakes not count"
That sums up my entire life.
"Country km" got me 😂 I like your humor very much :)
Quinn, I do love the fact that you show your work, and even more so when you do what I have done thousands of times in my life, that being the O goodness, I boo booed again. Thanks for the honesty. I hate the people that never show the truth. Yes, you messed up on the spindle clamp bore out, but I do love that little bit with the forehead against the face of the mill, it made me laugh.
24:00 SNAP GAUGE! Oh, and I can smell the cast iron from here.....Blech!
The boring bar thing seems to be a trend. Just a matter of scale. No matter how big the lathe you always need a bar that is just a little stiffer and a little longer.
Kurtis at Cutting Edge Engineering on YT has found the same problem. Only at a larger scale
@@petedepledge3359 When you need a chain hoist to control the boring bar you are at another level lol.
I really appreciate the silly (and serious) unit conversions.
It's so great to be able to do these projects vicariously through you. Thank you so much, all the best forever.
I find all units conversions silly. I just pick a system and move on with the project. Then it's just numbers to hit.
I've always liked furlongs per fortnite as a measure of foot traffic.
@@CothranMike My particular favourite is chains per quarter. 525600 seems to a reasonable pace.
Qinn stands for quality and entertaining...well for guys like us 👍
Big Steam Engine with Big Boiler driving Die Filer?!?
That's the type of madness I can get behind!
“YT isn’t really a visual medium…”, pretty impressive piece of cast irony there!👍👍Like a boss.
Problem solving is so much fun. Love to see you work through difficult set ups.
I do enjoy watching Quinn come up with methods of fixtures and getting reference positions. That big engine was a good example, where she decided that the proper primary reference would be the bore of the bottom frame and cylinder. In effect a virtual reference. Very smart.
A very long time ago, I put in a 4 year machinist apprenticeship with a major aerospace co. in Calif. It was an amazing program with excellent training plus my (late) step-father taught machining at a local high school. Not just a "metal shop" but true precision machining. You work very much the way I was trained from both.
Watching your work on your mill and lathe brought back so many memories seeing not only how you work, but the accessories you use. I used those very same things.
Then there is the safety thing. I really enjoy watching you work much more safely than any other video I've seen. Every other video I see "machinists" work in long sleeves, even gloves, wearing rings & watches, reaching over spinning chucks to file the work, etc. It's frightening.
I could go on, but you're a breath of fresh air and have restored my faith in someone who shows good common sense and who is good at what you do.
Congratulations!!! I love your channel!
Another episode of machining horrendous large castings, I enjoy these a lot! 😀
Thanks Stefan! 😁
Hey Quinn, just a suggestion for content. I'm a mechanical engineer, and learned a bunch in my early days from professional machinists. Three decades ago, I went into our university's foundry as a freshman and the professor said this is green mold sand, this is a pattern, here's a mold, this is what draft is and why you need it, this is a gate and why you need that, this is a parting line, etc. Now, anybody can just look that up. But doing a lot of casting work, you could make a very cool vid on going to see a friend that does that and explaining things along the way as you uniquely do.
27:50 This is typical good deep drilling strategy. Drill to establish a hole, bore larger to the hole size you need, finish with a drill. the bored hole will guide the drill.
"Die FILER!!" The craftsperson screamed as he brought down the hammer!
A volcano of metal, that's a Quinn saying 100%.
Yes, I was thinking of casting layout early on, we used to use a 4" (100mm) brush and white emulsion for our larger castings, and fabrications.
Excellent problem solving, casting looking very well finished, the parting lines, are normally accurate.
Thanks for sharing
So satisfying when you have juuuust enough of whatever it is you have!
That's what she said
Everytime you describe the particular and unique challenges of the bosses I think to myself “yes, I have had several bosses like that. Bad bosses, uncooperative bosses, slippery bosses, poorly shaped bosses, bosses that just don’t give you the encouragement and support you need in a healthy workplace…..” wait, oh…..THOSE bosses. Nvm. 😜
You had This Old Tony as a Boss? He's almost cast iron!
Will love this build series. I bought the casting kit as well,and will enjoy watching you make it and seeing how you approach it with the equipment you have. I have a 10 inch Rockwell lathe at home and Clausing 8520 so comparable to what you are using. Your videos are always a joy to watch, with your machining skills and ability to articulate what you are doing are an asset on top of the production value of the cinematography.
This video had a more casual and humorous feel to it, which I really enjoyed. I'm very much looking forward to the rest of this series.
Great job, Quinn. It's always great to see you working at the absolute limits of the tooling and equipment you have!
Fettle- to smooth rough castings or pottery . I love this word. I think some people need to be fettled. 😆 LOL. I really enjoy your videos, you are very informative. Also the cutest machinist on TH-cam. 😉♥️
The precautionary approach always the way to go....nothing more frightening than a hunk of cast iron flying across the shop
Great perseverance and nice to know that even experts make mistakes sometimes.
In my younger days I used to go to a drinking establishment that had really odd dimensions.
The room was about 24 feet wide but about 120 feet end to end. I think it was an old bowling alley with the lanes walled off. I always seemed to be woken up when the lights were turned up at 2 AM. I guess nothing exciting was going on. Just a Long, Boring Bar. 🙄😒🤣 🥰
You know, for just a moment there, I swear I could see you pointing at yourself with both thumbs after the not so visual joke.
This will be yet another neat project.
Very cool!
Thanks, and Meow to Sprocket.
Me too! Loved the immediate follow up about TH-cam not being a visual medium 😁
@@wrongtown that little touch of dry understated humor is always welcome, and I'm glad some of the other viewers caught it too! 🤣
Quinn. If you put your cast iron swarf around citrus trees it adds iron via roots. I have done this and following year had best crop from my lemon tree
I love watching the actual making, but your comments about problem-solving are really thought-provoking/inspiring. For example, "after thinking about it for a while though, I realized that what really matters..." resolved the issue of referencing the bottom surface of the base--with a little suspense to make things jolly. And then, to top it off, you presented a bonus multiple choice: buy the tool, fabricate the tool, modify a tool, substitute a tool, or persuade a tool. Well done Quinn!
Are you going to turn the outside of the base smooth and concentric to the center bore? With the center bore done you could run a bar through the center as a work holding fixture and use the tailstock to help hold it ..
That last boring/drilling operation, WOW. Awesome job!
I build this nifty machine a couple of years ago, using my PM-1030V lathe. When turning the top plate, I used the face plate. Unfortunately, the combined weight of the face plate and the top plate, the low speed for the cutting and the long cutting time caused the motor to overheat and fry the Hall effect transistors. Precision Mathews help immeasurably in addressing the issue. So as a warning to others with small lathes using DC motors, beware heavy loads at slow speeds! Other than that, the build went smoothly and the die filer is a dream machine.
Well done Quinn,you triumphed over adversity.👍👍
you made the right correction, the starting point for the dimensionning of the crankcase is the center of the crankshaft, all the drafts supplied shoould be corrected that way before attacking the final machining.
very good video
Of the handful of machining channels I watch, this one is so zen and relaxing. I find I'm drawn to creators that have an even-keel presentation of the material. Love the content. :)
I slapped my head when I saw you cleverly (experience) use v-blocks to support the bosses and then to level the beast upside down for milling the base. I so wish I had thought of that method. I used bamboo sticks and crushed toilet paper rolls, if I remember. (For rigidities sake) Hence my base is slightly lopsided. However, used as a reference so all else lines up. Ready for painting and assembly. I've learned the most difficult thing about this project is creative and proper holding for the machining process. Thank you so much for recording all this for the rest of us! (Can't wait to see how you machine the "hat.")
welcome, very well thought out. You would make my Dad proud, he was also a proper fitter & turner of the old school.
Cool 3D elbow! I've been thinking of getting one for my shop!
One of the things I LOVE about your videos is your ability to improvise and think outside the box in order to achieve a goal while maintaining a reasonable adherence to common / standard machine practice,
- salute -
I am completely blown away that you were able to bore at that length to diameter ratio. The 16mm is a favorite of mine but i have never pushed it that far. looking forward to seeing this projects progress. ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
You just gotta hold your left leg in the right position and pray to Metallicor
@@Blondihacks Thats funny, I listen to Metallica when I am working in my shop.
@@Blondihacks I will keep that in mind next time😀
11:37 noted. 12:37 ah but it was a glorious minute. Great video Quinn.
About 5 years ago I restored an Oliver filing machine. I sent pictures to Oliver and they sold me very reasonably the last of their machine files inventory. The down side of these machines is you need files that cut on the down stroke. Most folks end up using chain saw files or cutting tangs into the wrong end of standard files. These things work great but can be real finger pinchers.
I'm just finishing up my own. Andy L. is a nice and interesting guy.
Another nice tool build. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
.. 1.6 country kilometers .. thats caught me, and my cup of tea, off guard..! Well played ma'am!
Thanks you for sharing this video. I have been looking to make a die filer for years!
I actually laughed out loud at the "TH-cam isn't really a visual medium" joke.
Voiceover sure isn't visual. But it's a good joke.
Looking forward to watching this particular build series.
Your comment about 'traditional drafting' caused me to reminisce about being born either too early in the 20th century, or too late.
I was in high school at a time there was a strong emphasis on vocational educational & before community colleges became wide spread.
I had my sights set on architecture as a career, & was very enthusiastic about the drafting program & instructor, who had spent 20+ years at Boeing before becoming a teacher.
I started w/ a 1 hour class as a freshman & by my senior year was in a 2 hr, double period class. That year I designed & drafted my 1st house, which the vocational construction class starting building that spring. I deisgned & drafted a boat trailer for the instructor as well as 3-4 mechanical design & drafting projects for the school district's physical plant.
By spring, my instructor deemed myself & a classmate had learned as much as we could from him & it was only up to us to hone our drafting talents. As a new challenge, he pursuaded a local surveyor to tutor us, so we could survey a 12 acre plot across the street from the high school where, many decades later, a new sports facility & educational annex now stands.
My high school's vocational education program provided me with knowledge & allowed me to develop top notch drafting skills.
The only downside to this great career prep is I graduated in 1971. By the time I would finish a 5 year architecture program, & spend another 2 years advancing further w/ a Master's degree, it was less than a handful of years before AutoCAD revolutionized the art of drafting & the 10+ years invested in learning & honing a 'tradtional skill' were obsolete, virtually over night.
As I alluded to in the 1st paragraph, if I had been born earlier, I would have had a long career practicing traditional drafting; born later & I could have started out & spent my career in the AutoCAD world.
Sometimes, t's all about timing. LOL...
I think you're the third or fourth person I've seen build one of these kits now and it's always fascinating to see how different people with different workshops and tools overcome the issues with machining a large casting like that. Thanks for sharing!
Yay!! It's Blondihacks time!!
Thanks fro sharing your trials & tribulations with us. I like how you're not afraid to admit mistakes. they could be so easily edited out & not talked about... I always look forward to Saturday night at You Tube with Blondi Hacks !
I got to about 19:15 into this before I firmly concluded that you had bought something no one should go near.
It happens, and they sucked you in. No one could have recovered from it more nicely. WELL DONE. As always.
You have a great sense of humor.
Quinn, your videos are the high point of my weekends - yep! I don't get out much 🤪
For a Moment there I thought you'd do that line-boring trick again. But this solution was certainly a lot less setup.
my favorite.. tools making tools.. love it
I have had similar problems boring some engine castings , they were designed a long time ago when milling machines were not really available for the the majority of home shops . Back then the hole would have been drilled on a drill press or mounted on a face plate and drilled on the lathe then set up and bored using a between centres boring bar on the lathe . A slotted cross slide is a must for doing this or at least a removable set up plate .
You missed an opportunity - 'narrator coffee break' needed a picture-in-picture of the clip of you with the coffee mug from the shop!
Learning to stop and check before it is too late is key. It is something I've struggled with for sure. Glad you got it figured out before you needed to buy a new casting.
I've been half-seriously looking at this kit for a few years, on and off. So I'll be watching this series with great interest!
Great descriptions as usual, with a generous sprinkling of tips. Thanks
And this, Kids, is why there are setup charges… (and the 1.6 country km was hilarious)
That was an awesome demonstration of how accurate/concentric drilling can be. Be adding that info to the knowledge base. Thanks!
Never seen the technique of measuring off a reference surface with a parallel - seems obvious now! Super smart, thanks for sharing!
Perfect timing. I just bought the kit for this a few months ago and could not find anything on how to machine it.
I sure enjoy Quinn's videos. I think I've learned a number of things I didn't know I needed to know but now I want some new tools. Thank you for the work.
You always need drills that are slightly larger than standard hardware even though standard drill sets fail to provide them. I usually allow 1/32" but if you do precision work you may prefer 1/64". 25/64 would be 3/8 + 1/64, perfect for mounting hardware where you want minimal clearance. What you have is actually a very useful size!
This is hypnotic to watch. Thanks for sharing your work, already looking forward to part 2.
“1.6 country km” 😂😂😂 I’m also glad to have a name to put to the “why is the drill never the right length” problem! Looks like a great project.
I had no idea what your were talking about most of the time, but your presentation and the process were fascinating.
smart hack Blondi. Impressive work!!
I love watching stuff like this. I'm in aircraft structures so I have to do a lot of in situ precision drilling with hand drills. I know all about trying to make drills "act right". I would have voted for the reamer but giving the big drill as much of a pilot as possible with the boring bar was brilliant.
Saw this show up in my feed, and didn't have time to watch it until just now; spent half the day wondering what a die _filler_ was.
Thank you, Quinn, another great job from a very good machinist, and I really do learn a lot from your channel and I love your sense of humor I get a laugh out of every one of your videos they make my day.😄😄😄
I bought the same casting set 15 years ago and it’s still under the bench. I think you’ve inspired me to get on with it!
Die makers tool, so awesome. Lots of great history behind die filers. I think I saw this tool on instructables once upon a time.
.000049 furlongs made me shoot water out my nose and almost fall over backwards out of my chair laughing. I laughed so hard I couldn't breathe. Well done.
I was happy to see you start this project, I built one about twenty five years ago and have used my filer to do very fine work ever since. MLA and Andy are a great resource, I didn't have a mill when I built mine, and used a cross slide I made from an MLA kit to do the milling on my ten inch Logan lathe. Andy supplies absolutely great quality castings, hard to get any better. Once you have this done, you will wonder how you ever got along without one.
Looking forward to part 2!!! Love your vids. I have been thinking about getting that kit as well. Keep up the great work!
R. From Newfoundland.
Educational and entertaining. Well done, Quinn.
Thank you! I've been wanting to build one of these for a while now. And there isn't any good instructions or videos. I am excited to one with you!
I'm so glad you're doing a series on this exact tool. I've been meaning to buy one of these from Andy for years, now I have incentive++.
Hi Quinn. I've said it before, but I very much enjoy when you use the faceplate for such exacting work. It takes lots of time and "Out of the box" thinking but is so rewarding it all comes together.
Andy’s stuff is top notch. He lives about 90 minutes from me.
I’d like to say you are so great n so many different aspects of being a TH-camist. Just an example is your on screen editing of your commentary! That must take a lot of time. Thanks for your submissions!
I think a die filer would be super handy. I’m surprised they aren’t more commercially available.
That's a veryinteresting build. Finding solutions to machining problems are just part of the fun. With as a result, a nice and useful Die Filer :)
I can’t wait to see how this pans out. Mine will definitely be much cruder, but I’m ok with that.
I actually had to buy a 25/64ths drill bit (in a Harbor Freight "every 64th" drill index) to help the kiddo put weights in their Pinewood Derby car... The official recommended non-lead weights specified that as the drill size... At least it wasn't a number or letter drill...
I like where you think you're going with this.
But I would recommend that you add precision holding and adjusting equipment too the build.
Phew! A near-run thing in several places. Congratulations.
I started and subscribed to this channel because blondie hacks has about the same lathe as me but I don't have the confidence to work in anything but aluminum. Still it's nice to see how very talented machinists can build on anything.
I’m currently working on the same die filer too. For someone with almost no machining experience, it’s definitely a learning experience. I may have to remake the bronze bushings, I’ve had trouble getting my Lathe to bore non tapered holes in the base casting
Thank you for the inspiration, Quinn! If I ever manage to convince my wife that I need some machine tools, and if I ever decide to use them to make TH-cam videos, my channel will be called “Sketchy Things, Done on Small Machine Tools”.
I imagine that at first, it will be one of those ‘this-is-the-exact-way-to-NOT-do-it’ kinda channels…
Damn, you are a great machinist! When you over cut that ring, I felt that on a personal level. I've done that before and it sucks so bad!
Great video!
Okay, your channel was recommended and it is a great recommendation! Liked and subscribed!
That's some fancy work on your tiny machines, good job Quinn.
I see that you opted for the S.H.1.T. class of fit to adapt your dial indicator for your mill. I have frequently used this class of fit but recently I have found that the C.R.4.P. class of fit is interchangable with S.H.1.T. and just as useful. 😁