'Diablo': A Classic Game Postmortem

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  • Diablo developer David Brevik returns to the GDC stage to give a classic post-mortem on Blizzard's action RPG hit Diablo in this 2016 talk. Brevik shares key takeaways from the experience and sheds light on how the game went from a single-player, turn-based claymation DOS game to the genre-defining classic it became.
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  • @Neocorey11
    @Neocorey11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1609

    Blizzard died to me when they dropped Blizzard North. You and your team were the heart of that company and your absence shows today.

    • @pearz420
      @pearz420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      The North Remembers.

    • @avarilewang3992
      @avarilewang3992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The north remembers

    • @d_no_allyn_86
      @d_no_allyn_86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most definitely

    • @xraymone
      @xraymone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Terminal Heights haha

    • @mrtoothless
      @mrtoothless 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Terminal Heights Hi, Activision :)

  • @evangould1344
    @evangould1344 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My guy knew he was gonna do a talk on Diablo and he didn't know so many people were going to be interested in it XD Over 1M views on TH-cam and I'm here 7 years later still interested

  • @phantomspaceman
    @phantomspaceman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    "We'd sell expansion packs like Magic the Gathering with 50 items on a disk."
    That came full circle didn't it?

    • @Murzac
      @Murzac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Actually no, it just shows that this kind of mentality and will to do it already existed in the 90s but as he said, logistically it was just not possible. It wasn't until the internet became widespread enough and easily accessible for everyone and fast enough that it actually became possible to do.

    • @pancake8133
      @pancake8133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Laughs in The Sims

    • @Daz86.
      @Daz86. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mtx in 96.

    • @ChuckstaGaming
      @ChuckstaGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Murzac Yeah, thanks to the internet, the world are now gamers! Back then, geeks were the gamers.

    • @nonchip
      @nonchip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "but we quickly realized that'd be an issue" i wish publishers nowadays would realize the same...

  • @MrThankman360
    @MrThankman360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    It breaks my heart how nervous and humble this guy is. He has been so important to the gaming industry, yet he's so humble and nervous. Quite an amazing guy.

    • @funasylumstudio
      @funasylumstudio ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Support him now! He's got a new game!

    • @ethandaley69
      @ethandaley69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Empathy overload 😭🥺🧡🧡

    • @ethandaley69
      @ethandaley69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @René Steen Nielsen I think you may be misinterpreting the sentiment. They just mean it's super endearing and sweet to see and they're having an intense emotional response to it.

    • @bojcio
      @bojcio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesn't seem nervous. He's eloquent, confident and experienced, he doesn't have trouble being in front of an audience. The apparent awkwardness is just an aspect of his persona.

  • @vladimircokorilo8105
    @vladimircokorilo8105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    It’s funny how he mentioned Primal Rage during the Claymation story, because one of the two T-rex characters is called Diablo, and the ape is called Blizzard...

    • @lucasblouin3322
      @lucasblouin3322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Best comment thx

    • @Pavl9k
      @Pavl9k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I always played as a Diablo, great game

    • @Patrick.Basedman
      @Patrick.Basedman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. Diablo looked like Diablo too, in dino form, haha.

    • @stead6157
      @stead6157 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, what the hell is this coincidence???

    • @VADYCAN
      @VADYCAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf

  • @Aurumai
    @Aurumai ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This is one of if not the best GDC talk I've ever seen. Absolutely love hearing his enthusiasm for his craft and to hear the insight from an industry veteran. When Blizzard employed mostly people like David, it's no wonder that they set the golden standard for video game quality in their prime.

  • @neoian94
    @neoian94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Lol'd so hard when he goes " We weren't even paying our taxes, we found out that was a bad idea.."

  • @calumryan6328
    @calumryan6328 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1307

    Telling a story: "uh, um, so we, uh. Uh. uh."
    Talking about complex programming: flawless

    • @melhorespod
      @melhorespod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      hahahahaah

    • @Gunth0r
      @Gunth0r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      note how the sound is like talking inside a well. some sound guy fucked up or someone sabotaged him. hearing yourself like that would make any speaker nervous

    • @Gunth0r
      @Gunth0r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@supplebiscuit then we should blame the architect / venue manager? No, seriously, proper sound guys should be able to handle that.

    • @Gunth0r
      @Gunth0r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@supplebiscuit and that, ladies and gents, is a failure of imagination (and know-how).
      There's things called:
      - filters
      - threshold
      - soundproofing
      - a proper lavelier mic that doesn't pick up the echo
      There's a ton of stuff you can do...

    • @Gunth0r
      @Gunth0r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@supplebiscuit threshold is a thing, if we're talking in general terms, but gates is what I meant (I'm no expert). And you can soundproof with painted egg boxes for all I care (no need for expensive stuff), it'll attenuate the sound reasonably well in combination with the lavelier. And no, that's not the only thing I said that made sense. I didn't mean to antagonize you, apologies. However, you just admitted there's no need for breaking the laws of physics, basically making our whole discussion moot. And yes, it is about imagination as well as acoustics (I do know enough physics and equipment to know about acoustics which enables me to *imagine* how one could improve the sound in that venue, which was my original intent, to help promote better sound by critiquing). Hyperbole and frustrations on both our parts? /hug

  • @necrojustice
    @necrojustice 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The mandolin from Diablo 1 might be the best gaming soundtrack I've ever heard.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wrote Blizzard back in 90-something, and asked if they had a soundtrack available. I have to paraphrase the response here, because it's been a minute.... The music dep't answered (see what I mean about it being a long time ago?): "we don't, sorry, but thanks so much for asking - it's quite the compliment."

    • @BL00DYME55
      @BL00DYME55 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nickwallette6201 Aww, back when Blizzard was ran by actual human beings, and not soulless corporate NPCs

  • @Dovah21
    @Dovah21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    3 years later, the original Diablo is re-released on GOG. I am a happy man.

    • @skilllmatic
      @skilllmatic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i just played it through. still kicks ass!

    • @Mradevans
      @Mradevans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you, Diablo was my introduction to gaming, and now it's time to start my daughter on computers and games

    • @ON-nk5of
      @ON-nk5of 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Mradevans I skipped a heartbeat from excitement. Oh how I love the game's ability to convey atmosphere.

    • @Dovah21
      @Dovah21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Interpersonal Communicator Hey man, some things in life are worth paying for. Namely, Classic Diablo.

    • @Mauro0
      @Mauro0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Interpersonal Communicator don't be a cheap bastard. If you want something, pay for it or make it yourself.

  • @SpaceTurd69
    @SpaceTurd69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    One of the things that went very right was the music.

  • @ColonelRPG
    @ColonelRPG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    This piece is awesome, thank you David Brevik for all the hard work and passion and commitment and the fantastic games and legacy, awesome panel!

    • @StephanieLoveful
      @StephanieLoveful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      10% for an office, David? :) - Im gonna invent telephone calls on internet (Skype)

    • @benprendergast9868
      @benprendergast9868 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      but I already have a phone

  • @JasonTorpy
    @JasonTorpy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    If David Brevik asks you if you want his copy of Diablo. You say YES!!!

    • @TAURON85
      @TAURON85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      IKR. WTH was wrong with that guy?! Lol

    • @SalveMonesvol
      @SalveMonesvol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'd have him sign it, sell it for thousands and use that to afford playing diablo for a couple of months, or developping something

    • @ankixsounds
      @ankixsounds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SalveMonesvol XD

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Personally, I would have given the game to the guy who paid for his original pirated copy.
      Get together just after for a photo-op. Sign it. mutual respect.
      Make a great story for the game press. "guilt-ridden gamer finally gets chance to pay for pirated Diablo 1, is rewarded signed, sealed copy from creator"

    • @Alkis05
      @Alkis05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was shaming the guy, because he was trying to bad mouth his former employer. The guy had the good sense of not embarrassing himself anymore than that.

  • @bekjanz
    @bekjanz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "We got feedback from players, and worked on the changes"
    Omg what a genius idea, we should contact Blizzard immediately and tell them about this!

  • @mattmcluhan252
    @mattmcluhan252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    my mom saw the pentagrams in diablo and made me throw it away. so when i got it again i was careful never to start the game or pause the game in her presence.

    • @MsFlamingFlamer
      @MsFlamingFlamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Matt McLuhan 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @JonathanGannSLOOT
      @JonathanGannSLOOT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Matt McLuhan I too had this problem as I was raised in a very strict fundamentalist Christian household but I found that if you used the pause/break key instead of esapce to pause, it would just tint the screen red and said paused in the middle.

    • @TacDyne
      @TacDyne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Funny how different people regard religion. A church we were helping fix up a long time ago had a pastor who played Diablo in his office.

    • @googleinc6033
      @googleinc6033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      My mother didnt want me to play age of empire because they had priests.

    • @Lobiach
      @Lobiach 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @Ussurin
    @Ussurin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +758

    That moment when GDC does better 20th Anniversary for Diablo than Bli$$ard Entertainment.

    • @d.l.918
      @d.l.918 7 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Blizzard today and Blizzard from the 90s only share the name. After Chris Metzen left, is there even one staff member left who was with the company in the early days?

    • @boskee
      @boskee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes

    • @Misterzen87
      @Misterzen87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Donald Trump's huge dingdong Maybe the janitor? :D

    • @Dracold77
      @Dracold77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, Mike Morhaime, Co-founder of the place is actually still the CEO/president ;)

    • @Jurgen123445
      @Jurgen123445 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lol Dude you replaced the Zs in the company name with Dollarsigns to indicate that they are only interested in the money nowadays! That's genius! I bet you're the first being in world history who thought of that! LOL!

  • @lolmysteries
    @lolmysteries 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I was the directing Manufacturing Engineer at Technicolor at the time, producing one Diablo disc every 7 seconds. Aside from Microsoft 95 and 98, Blizzard was our second largest account at that time. Still have a few prototype Diablo and Diablo II discs in various stages of production, with gorgeous silkscreened artwork in 1 to 6 color prints.

    • @MontuOnuphrius
      @MontuOnuphrius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      pics or it didn't happen

    • @damsen978
      @damsen978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pics pls or we won't believe you, it's a simple trust matter because anyone in TH-cam can comment stuff like this. Some people even fake being creators of something important.

    • @AnonymoStranger
      @AnonymoStranger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@damsen978 Yeah I don't think they have a need to prove anything to you or anyone else online lol

    • @damsen978
      @damsen978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AnonymoStranger Then what the original comment is clearly fake, you just can't take the word for it, you have to rely on multiple sources to conclude at it, otherwise you all would be misinformed. I can fake being a creator and comment on this section in less than a minute, just as easy.

    • @Pan_Z
      @Pan_Z 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still no pics. Guess it's a fake

  • @timokampwerth1996
    @timokampwerth1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    More post mortems need to be like this. self aware humor, tons of information and a very sympathetic speaker who values passion for his work over public speaking skills. Who cares if he umm-uuh's his way through most of it, he has so much passion for what he created with Diablo!

  • @Siaynoq8
    @Siaynoq8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    I remember upgrading our ram fro 8mb to 16mb and suddenly Diablo was running totally smooth for me.

    • @UltromanTheTacoman
      @UltromanTheTacoman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      That moment when you finally popped in a Voodoo (3Dfx) card, and your game jumped from 25fps to 250fps!

    • @akse
      @akse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Had similar experience in Diablo 2 when I upgraded from 64Mb to 128Mb :) Suddenly all the HDD lag was gone when loading new areas and such.

    • @ForBreadAndFish
      @ForBreadAndFish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I bought Diablo and was crushed when I couldn't play it with 4mb memory LOL.

    • @xdeathsrk
      @xdeathsrk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I remember "playing" D2 before we upgraded our pc, right around the time we got cable internet.
      Whenever I broke the last seal in Chaos Sanctuary, I had to wait for literally 25 minutes while Diablo spawned. I spent more time waiting than actually playing the game. 😅
      Luckily we upgraded just before LoD hit. 👍

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltromanTheTacoman Lmao yeah.. voodoo 3dfx.. i was about to say my friend had it in crossfire lol :D sick stuff... UT 99 went from lagging in software graphics i think... to fucking something like a game from the far future... my eyes almost popped out of my socket from amazement...
      these young generations will never experience the shit what we did, tech evolved so fucking fast, that every year u were.. "Wow!" :D i think i havent had any wow effects in gaming for a decade+ already... last time something felt next level to me was dota2 closed beta.. and before that like world of warcraft launch lol... ;>
      Ur comment suggest u def played unreal tournament loool : ))) i remember also my friend bought entire new pc to play that game where u could slow down time ;D - Max Payne 2: :D damn how shit it looks nowdays haha..
      Rumours has it.. max payne 2 drops to 15fps on Xbox... loooooooooooooooooooooooool :D

  • @Inogat
    @Inogat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    the end is awesome, when the guy comes in and give the money, that's great !

    • @meyakabrown4725
      @meyakabrown4725 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      At 58:41. Ya that was amazing.

    • @ripoutyourprejudice
      @ripoutyourprejudice 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kinda cringy, but awesome at the same time.

    • @Novous
      @Novous 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I thought it was kind of sweet.

    • @andrewsparkes6115
      @andrewsparkes6115 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Should've given HIM that copy of the game! People are allowed to make personal backup 'pirates' so long as they have paid for a copy, so it'd be metaphorically, literally and legally wiping the slate clean.

    • @AutodidacticPhd
      @AutodidacticPhd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, that is easily one of the most entertaining things I've seen in these talks. I actually knew a band that would take a tip jar with the sign "Pirate Forgiveness Fund" (or something) on it. They swore they got more money in that jar than they actually got selling merch at some shows. I later heard that once they got a contract that their publisher made them take down the sign...

  • @HECKproductions
    @HECKproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    gods when he fire up that demo with the menu music and the fat THUMP sound effect
    that brought up nostalgic memories big time

  • @hromi
    @hromi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Legendary developer of a legendary game, huge respect to David and the Blizzard North team!

  • @petertimowreef9085
    @petertimowreef9085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I'm not a very hardcore gamer and I've never even played Diablo, but this enire thing was very interesting. It's just a joy to listen to friendly people who know what they're talking about.

    • @PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath
      @PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Peter Timowreef thats why i listen to full, accurately subtitled hitler speeches

    • @petertimowreef9085
      @petertimowreef9085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And how would you know the subtitles are accurate? Piss off with your hitler jokes.

    • @petertimowreef9085
      @petertimowreef9085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *****
      Did you really think that I thought German was a dead language...? Really..?
      Point is that when you don't speak German there's not really a way to know if the subtitles are accurate.

    • @petertimowreef9085
      @petertimowreef9085 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      *****
      If that were the case the adjective "accurately
      subtitled" he used would be redundant.
      The fact he used it indicates that apparently he believes there also badly translated subtitles available, which he was able to avoid.
      Why are you defending someone who jokes around about a man who said horrible things?

    • @erelane451
      @erelane451 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Read this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law, never take someone serious when they bring up Hitler they're more of a statistic than holding an actual argument, and a troll.

  • @stephendavenport316
    @stephendavenport316 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Definitely feeding off of the energy this guy is giving off! He's nervous as hell but you can tell he's so passionate. Awesome presentation.

  • @mikeyoung9810
    @mikeyoung9810 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Man I loved that game. No sequel or game has matched that feeling I get still to this day when I hear the music and see the game.

  • @TheBG077
    @TheBG077 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Thank you Daivd for all of your hard work and sacrifices in making such a great game! PLEASE come back and do another one of these for Diablo 2!!

  • @edwardingania1983
    @edwardingania1983 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I really admire his honesty.

    • @dannyglover8217
      @dannyglover8217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watching these chill ass dudes at gdc makes me hate my job that much more

  • @superduperjew
    @superduperjew 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1502

    They need Blizzard North for the next Diablo game. Look what happened without them.

    • @hellinterface6721
      @hellinterface6721 7 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      right. What a fucking joke D3 was.
      But then again has any video game been that decent recently aside from darksouls? The gaming world is a steaming pile of shit now.

    • @Sem5626
      @Sem5626 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      yeah thats what happens when you ignore the hard fan base and concentrate on making it more playable by everyone

    • @getrekt8365
      @getrekt8365 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      40 million or so copies sold of a piece of shit.

    • @stratotega
      @stratotega 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      diablo 3 and thief being the biggest disappointments

    • @viking_II
      @viking_II 7 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Diablo 3: 30 million (due to Diablo 2 fame).
      Reaper of Souls: 3 million (due to Diablo 3 delusion).
      Do your maths.

  • @szymonm.5045
    @szymonm.5045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    '-Do you want it?
    -I... I have one. Thank you.'
    Wait... WHAAAAAAAAAT?!

  • @jhl248
    @jhl248 8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    27:44 Probably one of the most beautiful moments in game development history.

    • @tehjamerz
      @tehjamerz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually it's all history

  • @rum-ham
    @rum-ham ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved this game so much. Still do. Everything about it was mind blowing at the time. Great memories.

  • @plume852
    @plume852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man, I love these Postmortems, it's so inspiring and fun to see legends retell their zero to hero style stories with so much passion.

  • @zeromancer-x
    @zeromancer-x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    More developers should do talks like this.

  • @jackcristo1628
    @jackcristo1628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I've been playing "Diablo 3: Path of Exile", and I'm enjoying it a lot.

    • @ssosso79
      @ssosso79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      path of exhile was def a better "diablo 3" then diablo 3

    • @blackb1rd
      @blackb1rd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ssosso79 I just started POE with a friend (lvl 35 ranger now). Quite a bit more complex than any diablo game though. Any beginner tips?

    • @nobodyinterestingyou
      @nobodyinterestingyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't be a jack of all trade. PoE has a really flexible amount of skills configuration that let you be a lot of things.I'm playing the sorceress and the Scion character right now and I specialised them both Into something specific that still fits to my taste; One Is a necromancer and the other an archer all the way.There's a lot of room to experiment with builds and have fun If you don't follow any guides but you gotta have a clear vision still of what you want yours to be. So welcome aboard and have a pleasant stay with us In Wraeclast,exile (Y)!

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ROFL best comment

    • @fu6817
      @fu6817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't live with the leagues "forcing" me to restart the progress every time new league comes out.

  • @ArborDaze
    @ArborDaze 7 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Diablo 1 got me an internet bill of 1800 dollars one month, back when there was an hourly fee for some dial up.

    • @Truth_Hurts528
      @Truth_Hurts528 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arbor Day you or your parents?

    • @ArborDaze
      @ArborDaze 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Me.

    • @rummy98
      @rummy98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      My local phone company used to have something called LOS which was a 40 mile radius for free long distance after the first $15. When the bill would come in they would still tally the full minutes used then show capped at $15. I remember getting $9000 and $11000 bills as I would sometimes leave the connection on overnight. I remember the first big bill we got and my dad's reaction when he misread it lmao.

    • @chrisskull7882
      @chrisskull7882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude wtf...you have a game addiction I mean I got to level 50 on Diablo 2 in 4 days but dude you got issues...thats didn't cost me any money lol

    • @Sebastian_Najmanovich
      @Sebastian_Najmanovich 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      rummy98 WHAT??? 10000??

  • @CIubDuck
    @CIubDuck 7 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    That hotmail story is absolutely depressing. 280 million... damn.

    • @joshuanorris5860
      @joshuanorris5860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Jonny B except there is interest. And things you can do with 40 million to let it grow properly.

    • @dunmermage
      @dunmermage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You think that's bad? Back in 1990 Bill Gates offered to sell Windows to IBM for $80,000.

    • @takcus
      @takcus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshuanorris5860 yeah, for example their own Diablo expansion, (because of bigger studio and more of workers) Diablo III leaded by him etc.... another hunders of milions of dollars ;p

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jonny B probably not gonna spend all of 40M though. (unless you're the "lets go nuts" type, and then you'd burn it back to 0 fairly soon anyway)
      On the other hand, even if he did just drop it in the bank, 40M is still 40M. You wouldn't refuse that just because it isnt 280M.

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dunmermage that's crazy. But it's not quite comparable. Maybe it would've crashed and burned under IBM, managing it badly or something.
      Pretty big difference from buying a relatively small product and having to develop it into more, compared to getting 40M just for having a dude sit in your empty room.

  • @Helmutlozzi
    @Helmutlozzi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    I will always hate neo-blizzard for calling Mr. Brevik a loser.
    RIP Diablo franchise.

    • @vOddy75
      @vOddy75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      What a rude thing to say. When was this?

    • @hellishinc
      @hellishinc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@vOddy75 Jay "bitch boy" Wilson. David made a comment saying he didn't think d3 was a good diablo game. Jay responded with "fuck that loser".

    • @PauloAM
      @PauloAM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@hellishinc damn! and the loser was right, so joke's on bitch boy

    • @gustru2078
      @gustru2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Terminal Heights Yeah sure, people bought it thinking it would be good because of diablo 2 and pretty much everyone was disappointed. It got high sales but that's it. I played Diablo 2 for many years and still do sometimes. I stopped playing Diablo 3 after less than a year though and didn't bother with the expansion. That's how good D3 is. Regardless of the context of Brevik saying he didn't think D3 was good, he was right.

    • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
      @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Diablo 1 will go down in history as the greatest game Beside Doom. Calling this man anything other than Genius is not using his proper title. Peasants always have opinions.

  • @darovi
    @darovi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    Blizzard needs to put Diablo along with Warcraft 1 & 2 on the store.

    • @MrCoolibe
      @MrCoolibe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no point, copy right expired i believe

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You can download the abandonware.

    • @satan915
      @satan915 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Copyright on corporately owned works doesn't expire until 95 years after publication or 120 years after creation, whichever comes first. Still a long ways to go before even those old games would expire.

    • @BaDMrFr0zty
      @BaDMrFr0zty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's called walmart

    • @blazindragon296
      @blazindragon296 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lol to bad Walmart doesn't sell D1 and Warcraft 1 and 2

  • @wreagfe
    @wreagfe 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks David, and all the people that worked on Diablo, for this game. It was so awesome, childhood memories. :))

  • @robbhays8077
    @robbhays8077 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I remember that DirectX demo CD! I played the heck out of that thing.
    EDIT: That Dark Forces overlay was great. I forgot how revolutionary that was.

  • @MrRespen
    @MrRespen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just caught this today, was listening for background and had to stop everything I was doing to watch it. So many memories, but to name a few... I played so much that the music was soothing, and I'd leave it on to go to sleep. I remember logging on to battlenet for the first time and seeing players trading weapons by dropping them on the ground, and thinking to myself... this is the future of gaming. I remember contest on... happypuppy games regarding ideas for the sequel that I made a write up for. Nothing has compared, thank you, thank you thank you.

  • @zachm705
    @zachm705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Diablo series needs a reboot in the spirit of the original game. It needs to be small, spooky, intimate, simplified, and challenging.

  • @DetectivePoofPoof
    @DetectivePoofPoof 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow that was probably the most entertaining postmortem I've seen!

  • @UnknownGunslinger
    @UnknownGunslinger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Oh man I remember Primal Rage! I used to love that game so much, why did I forget it?

  • @64jcl
    @64jcl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The turnbased engine at first was likely a good choice to have underneath this as it no doubt made the game state more "tidy" when he transitioned it to real time. Seeing how quickly he got it into a realtime state, indicates that the movement/animation of the player and monsters were all smooth for each time transition. A player can almost play Diablo a bit turn based as you can move a tile and trigger motion of a monster that then is in the "aggro range" to deal with them one at a time.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean even WoW later had similar things with aggro ranges on mobs, even though both games are in real-time. I wouldn't really equate pulling mobs one at a time to "turn based" though, lol.

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really want to know more about this in regards to Diablo 2. For those that don't know, Diablo 2 runs at 25 frames per second for each animation. Having faster cast rate, move speed, increased attack speed, and so on meant the animation for your character skipped frames in the animation. For example, say it takes your character 10 frames to complete an attack animation, but a monster 25 frames, your character will attack 2.5 times per second while the monster will attack once.
      This stuff isn't that important for playing against monsters, but if you're doing any sort of PvP, you had this shit down to a science. One of the highest skills you could master was how to de-synchronize (or "desynch"). This was when you flooded the server with so many inputs that when it went to skip over the animations, it could glitch, lose packets, and your character would appear invisible on your opponent's screen. A good Amazon, for instance, could desynch her run speed so that she's almost permanently invisible, "teleporting" next to her opponent, and firing off a large salvo of javalins right to her opponent's face. Paladins were probably the easiest to desynch with, while one of the hardest goals would be to achieve desynch'd whirlwinds on barbarians and assassins.
      The other thing is that duping in Diablo 2 was usually obtained by desynch. You create the conditions that cause the server to lose track of your character (or straight-up crash the server) and try and move items from one place to another (like the stash into the player inventory). The server loses track of your character, thinks an item is being held by another person, then you log back in and the server sees you still have your item, leaving the other person with the dupe(s). There's a lot of methods, but these are the basics behind most of them. However, none of the desynch methods are possible on Classic because players can't get enough cast speed/move speed/etc. to cause a server to crash. As a result, all items on Classic were either duped prior to v1.09 (when Blizzard introduced item numbers) or are legitimate and not dupes.
      I'd be really curious to hear Brevik talk about all this.

  • @riyadali4082
    @riyadali4082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Words cannot express the respect and admiration I have for this man and his team. Diablo is so dear to my heart, all the memories growing up with that series.

  • @karatechop7289
    @karatechop7289 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best videos I have seen on TH-cam. I was glued to my monitor, the whole time he was talking.

  • @maxwuup2152
    @maxwuup2152 8 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    how could the first guy asking a question NOT take the unopened diablo :o

    • @alexoelkers2723
      @alexoelkers2723 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      I think he was just kind of on the spot and didn't want to seem like he was asking for it. I am sure he regretted it afterward.

    • @_Minecraft_ASMR
      @_Minecraft_ASMR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      He said he already had a copy, The person who asked for it later sold it, which is highly disrespectful as it was given under the idea that he was going to play it.

    • @alexoelkers2723
      @alexoelkers2723 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Mia S I would of thankfully taken it as a collector's piece even if I had a copy. Really kind of sad that it got sold in the end.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      If he sold that then he is a scumbag, especially for asking it under pretenses of him needing a copy to play it. Bet he walks around thinking he's a good person too. Dirty liar, if that's true.

    • @alexoelkers2723
      @alexoelkers2723 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Deathbrewer it was you wasn't it?

  • @PixelProphecy
    @PixelProphecy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Just finished Diablo again on Windows 10 x64 Pro. Didn't even need the patch, but with 1.6 it plays a bit better. And seeing good old Tristram in 640*480 stretched up all the way on an UHD screen is quite a sight to behold :)

    • @stricker1eagle500
      @stricker1eagle500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad you enjoyed that mobile game :)

    • @werdelke
      @werdelke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn, those pixels must've been as big as bricks, man.

    • @hrvojesincek3888
      @hrvojesincek3888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@werdelke HD mod does exist and its good.

    • @snuffeldjuret
      @snuffeldjuret 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hrvojesincek3888 Indeed! It is a lot harder though, I got my ass totally wooped first time I played. Just recently managed to kill Mr. D as a normal leveled and equipped warrior :).

  • @JoshForeman
    @JoshForeman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hm. I started working at Synergistic (The studio that Sierra had do the xpac) right after they finished Hellfire. If it's any consolation, they shut us down within 6 months. Also, I NOW work for Mike O'Brian at ArenaNet, so it fun hearing about his earlier days. I hope Brevik splits that profit he just got with Mike after praising him so much! ;P

  • @dixie_rekd9601
    @dixie_rekd9601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love this guy , he's funny, well thought out, CLEARLY knows what he's talking about and has a "I was there" bearing.

  • @hackebeil20
    @hackebeil20 7 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    "battle.net ran on one computer" - dafuuuuuuq!!!!

    • @UmbraAtrox_
      @UmbraAtrox_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      Some say it still does.

    • @laughingskuls7000
      @laughingskuls7000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      explains why it always crashes

    • @zeromancer-x
      @zeromancer-x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      It's the same computer from 1997...

    • @XkidXuglyX
      @XkidXuglyX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      57:15 to relive this hilarious moment

    • @ac0rpbg
      @ac0rpbg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Original battle.net was a basic IRC server nothing more nothing less. There were a lot emulated battle.net servers for pirated games. Now such services are a lot more complicated that even host the games for the anti-cheat protection and so on.

  • @robertwhitis6132
    @robertwhitis6132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was the best damn postmortem I've ever seen. Rock on David! Absolutely amazing.

  • @phadedlife
    @phadedlife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Diablo WAS my childhood. I still play D2 even til this day (mostly MedianXL mod). Thank you for doing this David. It's nice to have some knowledge on you, the game, and the team behind it. Thank you for giving me joy in life, where there has been none otherwise. My life has been a complete mess, but I still have Diablo to fall back on. I know this sounds pathetic, but it is what it is. Hope to see new content from you!

  • @djobnoxious6407
    @djobnoxious6407 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His dad still plays Diablo 2 after sixteen years of its release. What a wonderful feeling that must be.

  • @ExileLBL
    @ExileLBL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot youve talked about Matt, I was defined by his unique tones and chords.

  • @terefer3
    @terefer3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    34yo here, great game, me and my brother got it with our PC upgrade - finally we had a proper sound card! Both of us completely gone, we SLAINED our mouse, because of the upgrade we have been skint, so we actually opened our mouse, and replaced left mouse button with right one - as right one wasn't as important! xD
    Still play it from time to time, great game.

  • @nicolasroqe
    @nicolasroqe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    SO the brain behind one of the most ICONIC games wants to give YOU an unopened copy of the game: 53:07
    -Do you want it?.
    - i have one, thank you.
    WTF?¿?¿?¿?¿???¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿

    • @Whateverworksism
      @Whateverworksism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      hahahaha he did not think that through, fuck me I'd frame it and treat it as a treasured piece of art.

    • @Kratatch
      @Kratatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Deventh Apparantly he sold it...

    • @omikronweapon
      @omikronweapon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IMO It should have gone to the guy that paid for his pirated copy. I know he might have turned it down, but that to me was the most deserving person there. He would have cherished the fuck out of it.
      Though, a little higher up in the comments, a guy is claiming to be the recipient and still having the game. I looked into it a bit, and there's sóme creedence to it.
      www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/4b3ian/i_got_an_signed_copy_of_diablo_from_david_brevik/
      www.benjaminpirkey.com/ (his twitter name is supersulf)

  • @anthonygrenier6509
    @anthonygrenier6509 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is simply amazing. Thank you David for all the time, effort and passion you've put in this game with your team.

  • @acidarrow
    @acidarrow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, so much gold here for anyone who has spent any significant time on any of the Diablo series. Not to mention the extra insight for those of us who have some kind of programming experience. Fascinating.

  • @karacter3369
    @karacter3369 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the way he did the convertion of turn based to real time is genius really

  • @bastardtubeuser
    @bastardtubeuser 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    hes a good speaker and a good guy for sharing some of the development and technical processes they went through. another fantastic postmortem

  • @JohnDaniels
    @JohnDaniels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of my top five GDC videos 👍

  • @BaneTodor
    @BaneTodor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you, man, for your existence!
    This was pure gold and you made me laugh for full hour! Off course, I learned a lot.

  • @MetalHorrorGamer
    @MetalHorrorGamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video. its a shame it ended. i would have loved to hear him answer more questions

  • @donov25
    @donov25 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It runs on windows 10! A buddy of mine and I play it all the time.

  • @Drachensingsang
    @Drachensingsang 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one inspiring talk. It's like looking back through a window. You can be there wihtout having been there. Fantastic!

  • @MrInfernoblade10
    @MrInfernoblade10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    giving his copy away is truly the highlight of the entire event because that's just too awesome for a dev to give away their unopened copy to a fan

  • @thewickinator
    @thewickinator 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Im eating this up Im only at 5 minutes holy shit diablo was the first computer game i played and i think it raised me when my parents wernt around from 7-9 years old

  • @Tudumanu
    @Tudumanu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing talk, thx a lot David Brevik! This game was superb for the time and still is today.

  • @GamekNightPlays
    @GamekNightPlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Watching this after the announcement of Diablo: Immortal - Game development was so much cooler back in the day... it was all about passion, not money!

  • @ac0rpbg
    @ac0rpbg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Games back in the 90s were the best games. They were done with love and passion and that was the driving force. Now it is all about making more money...

    • @kusog3
      @kusog3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sad state of the gaming industry

    • @Dousch
      @Dousch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s why these talks are so valuable. Keeps me going when I feel like giving up on my own projects.

  • @naomi-nada
    @naomi-nada 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could listen to this man talk about developing games all day.

  • @GacNac
    @GacNac 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    wonderful video

  • @jessadelman
    @jessadelman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there more of these?? I love this so much. I want to see one for all my favourite games as a kid.

  • @miyalys
    @miyalys 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! One thing I remember from the box art of Diablo (1) was the differently coloured town portals in multiplayer. I still want that!

  • @Pringlesman
    @Pringlesman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this talk. Sometimes people complain about how game X was only done for the money. And the comeback is always about how game developers are businesses and of course that's their goal. This talk really illustrates that sometimes the goal is to make a quality game first and hope that that turns into a profit after the fact.

    • @Youboob99
      @Youboob99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And with D1 and D2 it basically did both, haha. And turned out to be a legendary game or two in the process, respect-wise. SOOO tough to achieve that.

    • @wildwest1832
      @wildwest1832 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      idk in modern times it seems to happen less and less. Maybe more with indie games but not AAA.

  • @viking_II
    @viking_II 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Diablo 1&2 spirit continues in Torchlight, Path of Exile and Grim Dawn.

    • @bhaalgorn
      @bhaalgorn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      derpeter, why?

    • @sirbattlecat
      @sirbattlecat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Viking II when I describe PoE to people I just say "it feels more like Diablo than Diablo 3".

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ugly, unprovoked attack to an innocent comment...yeah, this is the TH-cam comments section.

    • @krisbayley9422
      @krisbayley9422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      and Torchlight 2 aswell

  • @yngtadpole
    @yngtadpole 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in high school at the time and had that PC Gamer CD! I remember the cover and remember my first playthrough of Tristam. Seeing the demo gave me goosebumps and and nostalgic feels.

  • @analdisco
    @analdisco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great guy. Really enjoyed this video. Glad I was alive to play it.

  • @CharlesVanNoland
    @CharlesVanNoland 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "You don't have to worry about this anymore, the card does all this crap for you, so it's... you know........ Kids today..."

  • @DeuceGenius
    @DeuceGenius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just want to say thank you man. I never knew who created my favorite 2 games of all time. Diablo I and II :) i spent my childhood in your games and its inspired me as an evil fantasy artist for the rest of my life

  • @Samkiud
    @Samkiud 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, awesome talk. Best postmortem I have watched so far. The question about the possibility to acquire the game legally currently was freaking important.

  • @silverstreak5954
    @silverstreak5954 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for everything! David Brevik I look up to you so much! :)

  • @DraphEnjoyer
    @DraphEnjoyer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Reminder that good games are made by people, not by a logo. The chumps working at Blizzard now couldn't make a game like D2 if they tried.

    • @wanghaifeng7998
      @wanghaifeng7998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That's a bit too general, there are probably a lot of very passionate and hard working working at Blizzard. Not a lot of people making games would ever want to make a sub par gaming experience. Blizzard is made up of thousands of employees, why treat all of them as a single entity.

    • @Haannibal777
      @Haannibal777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrZurata Sure, but they made WoW and Overwatch, what's your point?

    • @deethanyter7324
      @deethanyter7324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      over watch and doesn't have the same kind of spark that old war craft and even WOW had. it seems corporate and kind of sterile compared to their older games, because they need to make sure it makes money. yea they want a quality game experience but its less a passion thing and more a business thing.

    • @jimmychongo3149
      @jimmychongo3149 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Most of the guys that developed vanilla WoW and the first few expansions are long gone and Overwatch is complete trash though.

    • @ezetreezy
      @ezetreezy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      engineering and art at blizzard are always top notch. the design of the games are debatable.

  • @rosurobosu8546
    @rosurobosu8546 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    listening to someone who knows his thing is so satisfying.

  • @eqgmrdbz
    @eqgmrdbz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super fun and entertaining, loved the whole presentation, was great to see the beginnings of one of the greatest games ever made.

  • @adamstryker999
    @adamstryker999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite video, period. Best presentation.

  • @karbonista
    @karbonista 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the most amazing things about Diablo and D2 was the solid running. I know there were bugs that some people dealt with, but d1 was one of the first nearly-flawless game experiences I'd had.
    Imagine if XCom with that level of solidity. I think one of the reasons that differences of opinion on XCom are *possible*, about whether it's the greatest single gaming experience of all time, is that the buggy and crappy UI put a lot of people off.
    Diablo set a standard that Bliz held on to for quite a while. (btw, I'm a firm "battlegrounds killed WoW" gamer).

  • @QwertyCharlieFourate
    @QwertyCharlieFourate 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a legend, Lovely guy!

  • @chrismorris5241
    @chrismorris5241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huge part of my child hood. Thanks David Brevik. Seems like a really awesome guy.

  • @slow9573
    @slow9573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude this presentation is top tier. Internet history.

  • @Suds_Mc_Duff
    @Suds_Mc_Duff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    how could you turn down that copy of D1..

  • @DecibelAlex
    @DecibelAlex 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm so jealous that one dude got David's diablo copy. He should've asked for his autograph though!

    • @ecstaseed89
      @ecstaseed89 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing. David seems nice enough to do that for him too. Also hey I know you from your first upload, big castlevania fan whatsup

  • @221Dw
    @221Dw 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this a lot. I appreciate the work that goes into the games a little better now.

  • @ifstatementifstatement2704
    @ifstatementifstatement2704 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David is great! The best GDC presentation I've ever seen.

  • @AoiKaze2000
    @AoiKaze2000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Where's the link to the design document?

    • @frigidwinter5101
      @frigidwinter5101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      +AoiKaze2000 Right here: www.graybeardgames.com/download/diablo_pitch.pdf

  • @BANANA1TERACOTTA1PIE
    @BANANA1TERACOTTA1PIE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Post mortem my ass, i still play diablo 1, also if anyones looking to get back into the game, look up diablo 1 hd mod, its called belzebub, its a lot more than just a hd upgrade.

    • @MisterFoxton
      @MisterFoxton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      19 years, 10 months and 21 days old.

    • @bechtholdillustrator9378
      @bechtholdillustrator9378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Belzebub is truly Awesome !

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anyone play Diablo 1 with The Hell mod?

    • @aageon
      @aageon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you mean Hellfire by Sierra or an actual mod?

    • @PaulBosMusic
      @PaulBosMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Post-mortem is a project management term used for reflection and process improvement. Can be done after any milestone including release

  • @pandorasnow
    @pandorasnow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    that diablo demo is what hooked me. i still remember playing it

  • @BleepingRelics
    @BleepingRelics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome to listen to the whole thing actually. Very inspiring.