The GREATEST EVER Premier League CB is... | Winner Stays On with Carra and Henry! 🆚
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Jamie Carragher plays Winner Stays On with Thierry Henry to decide the greatest ever Premier League centre back and the greatest all time football manager.
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Love or hate Jamie, the guy is definitely a genuine football historian and has a lot of knowledge of the game outside of England.
His ball knowledge is unmatched. I'm not a Liverpool fan but I genuinely love hearing everything he has to say, you can clearly tell he's still completely dedicated to the game albiet in a different manner now.
A genuine football historian would never put Mourinho above Sacchi smh
@feelingspeed yes he would
@@feelingspeed he was right Jose is better
For me vidic better than van djk
Look at what Tony adams did at the division 1 era and he continued doing it in the prem he's in the top 5 cb for sure in england he always has to be in the conversation
passion merchant
@@Fahim321 captaining the same team for 3 decades
@@Fahim321ehhhh???
People living too much in nostalgia
@@HhHh-dn4cy I've watched tony adams play for arsenal in 96
ELITE ball knowledge from Carra
lad, hes just old. he remembers all these managers
He literally forgot that Juventus used to fix games under Capello reign lmao
Van dijk over John Terry? 🤔
@@Shano_7Yes
@@psychobread1252 negative ball knowledge 😂
Bro as an Arsenal fan...this is why i can never hate on this guy....His football knowledge is something else
Why would you hate on anyone just because you like arsenal? You're not a child.
No time mate @@Enscriptiv
@@Enscriptiv another way to say what that commenter said is "Even though this guy goes after my club quite a lot and dismissed my manager immediately in this quiz, I can't hate on him, he knows his stuff."
That's why he mentioned the club he supports, did that really not even cross your mind as you wrote your reply?
Saying VVD is the greatest in the league ever? Yeah that's just some biased bs
That manager one was really difficult to only pick one, so many iconic figures
Thank you Jamie Carragher you can spot Talent ❤❤❤❤
LOL … all those names are more than talent😂 but I LIKE 👍🏻 your comment
Carragher is not only a very very smart pundit. He also has literally played with and against these players like Terry. So his opinion is of much higher value than others. Sure he has some bias towards VVD both being Liverpool sided but he was happy to be subjective in choosing Jaap Staam over his teammate Hyppia
Probably because Hyppia over Stam would’ve been indefensible. I hate Terry as a person but he’s clearly the best defender this league has seen.
i was not happy he chose jaap over sami
That's the little give for the future take.
Hyppia over Jaap Stam would warrant criminal charges tbf
@NavyaSagittarius it absolutely was, Stam is regarded as one of the greatest defenders to ever live. Does Hyppia even break the PL top ten?
If Fergie hadnt dropped an absolute howler and he had stayed longer it would be Stam, without question.
Jamie has a great memory, and actually an acceptable argument, i would chose Pep as the best manager, but his argument about SAF was really good, winning with small club and top club really shows a true quality.
Love this format, would definitely watch more of this
Carra knows ball. Probably the best knowledge out of the newer pundits. Some of the older ones are still unmatched, they remember goalscorers from FA cup semi finals 40 years ago.
Loved the respect Jamie gave to Fabio Capello, one of the greats of football management no question about it but he undressed himself putting that park the bus merchant Mourinho ahead of Arrigo Sacchi.
Marcello Lippi!?! Multiple league titles, Champions League and a World Cup!
Exactly lol.
u right. The only thing is international management is quite random. It depends mostly on the players you have at the time. That Italy team was insane - buffon, cannavaro, pirlo, del piero etc.
exactly, how could they leave him out?
Julian Alvarez must be the 2023 ballon d'Or winner as he won the treble (EPL, UCL, FA Cup) and World Cup using ur logic
@GOATMessuimere
So u r saying that Lippi's career was like the last season of Alvarez?
Great Knowledge. I think he got each and every perfectly.
What Sir Alex did with that Aberdeen team and to be the only team to beat Real Madrid in a European final is mental
It is not the only team it is the last team who beats Madrid in a European final.
Er, Liverpool beat Madrid the European Cup final in 1981.
Chelsea beat Madrid in uefa super cup and uefa cup winners cup final.
inter milan too
@@rumjonhe wrote Fergie Aberdeen were the last team to beat Madrid in European final....
If Van Dijk had chosen City in 2017 instead of Liverpool, he’d have quite easily have won 5 PL in row at City and no one would have even questioned him being one of the best ever. He was a phenom for those 3 years until his ACL injury, a Rolls Royce who had everything.
Always find it bizarre that people try to compare him with Terry or Vidic, who were great penalty box defenders who were nothing like VvD in style.
And yet Terry won trophies over prime Arsenal and prime United and a CL winning Liverpool. Whats your argument? VvD had 1 good season. Thats all
Btw he didnt invent the Rolls Royce defending, Rio was doing it before
@@AlphaCenturi16 Terry was lucky he played under a defensive Mourinho when they were outspending everyone, he had him defending on his 18 yard box. He couldn’t play a high line & we all saw what happened when he did. Got turned for pace easily and struggled.
@@AlphaCenturi16 Rio was never a leader nor had the passing range. Plus had a blooper reel bigger than anyone. Another lucky to play under Ferguson.
@rossisempre86 lol then clearly youre only 10. Rio was known for his passing range and tekkers for a defender. If youre too young, go watch his video compilations or read his player profile
Those who played the game to a good standard+ can appreciate VVD more than the armchair fan. Football has evolved a lot in 10-20 years and Terry would be Ben Mee by today's standards, and didn't have the attributes to be more. It's why it's hard to compare eras.
Hope Vidic gets a mention. He’s been my personal favorite over the past 25 years
Jamie choosing van dijk as best prem cb ever… who seen that coming 😭
Cry
But he chose sir Alex and pep over klopp so…..
He’s right tho
@@Tjmufc765cos klopp was managing liverpool 30 years ago in 94...
@@watsappenin2865 rattled scouser
You could play spin the bottle for any of them defenders all top drawer .john terry was mmy favourite but i think vvd has took cb role to new heights
Carragher has insane Ball knowledge! 4:32
Sky Sports need to hire Thierry asap
I'm a united fan, but I actually think Pep's achievements are better than Sir Alex... The argument for Sir Alex and Aberdeen is an ok one... but after seeing so many great managers show up at Old Trafford, and they still suck? Actually shows what a great job Pep has done... he turned a good Barca side to a great side, he changed the way Bayern played, and city as well... he's managed some really big characters, and many many different players, yet he still managed to make all these players play the same way as he wanted... that's a very underrated skill.
I think it would be fair to say that the United inherited by Sir Alex were pretty average at the time, which adds to his achievements
Imagine if Van Dijk, Nemanja Vidic ever played together 😮💨with Kyle Walker and Ashley Cole maybe the greatest back four you could ever wish for!
As a man city fan , i totally agree with him picking Ferguson over Pep .
Crazy to think that the first, first team Pep managed was Barceona with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta etc. No doubt he's a genius but he has managed huge clubs with huge transfer budgets. I'd love to see him leave City and go and get a Swindon or a Macclesfield promoted. Then I'd genuinely put him above the likes of Capello, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Sacchi, Ferguson, del Bosque etc. Until then, I think he's a great manager, amongst other greats
Van Dijk is the most talented CB the PL has ever had. I'm not sure if he's the best "defender" of them all, but he's the most athletic combined with defending, goalscoring, and a great passing range.
That penalty against kepa 😭
love to see some of the old lot play a high line
@@jnes624 90% of teams played a high line 15 years ago, 11 man behind the ball was never a thing 😂😂😂😂 now they do because they can’t defend
Imagine thinking Jose's Chelsea with played a high line@@kieranj1332
Villas boas came in and changed to a high line and John Terry looked like Dejan Lovren
Parking the bus has always been a thing
@@kieranj1332 90% of the team ? LOL, you must be 10 years old talke about 15 years ago, funny
henry,s jacket 🔥
Henry’s underpants 😂
Tony Adams, Nemanja Vidic, John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho, Jaap Stam, etc
"Please don't have me whacked, Carlo" -Jamie Carragher
But but but Richards burst onto the scene!!!
Van Dijk, Vidic and Terry might be the best 3
Stam clear of all 3
Stam is better than all of them.
Stam might be better, but because of his suspension, most of the pundits wont consider him among the greats unfortunately
Ahahaahahahhahahahaha@@Al-ji4gd
"Pep has not won a championship with a small team", Yeah well all of us have been saying this for quite some time now.
neither has klopp tho n i'm a liverpool fan. Dortmund and Liverpool r not small teams. he got mainz promoted in 3rd place. still more impressive than winning the league with Barca with messi and xavi, Bayern and mega rich 115 charges fc tho, imo.
This is the same argument against Nessi and other great players and managers who started their careers right at the top and never built their reputations by being successful at smaller clubs. This is just a dumb argument as it implies being successful at a big is much easier, which is far from the case. Managers have a lot more room at smaller clubs than the two clubs where they have to deliver instant success. Also, it has been much tougher in the last twenty years or so for small clubs to succeed as football isn't as equal as it used to be. Days when a promoted could be champion in a couple of years are over. However, Leicester City did great in 2016. So, why is Ranieri not mentioned since he managed Leicester to the single greatest ac achievement we've seen in Premier League history? Or at the biggest shock. Arsenal's 2004 unbeaten season night is a greater achievement. Managers and players can only beat who is in front of them and not managing or playing for a small shouldn't make their achievement less. It's best to compare when they have equal or similar teams. It is like the old claim about Messi not being good since he never played at Stoke in the winter.
@jack28aug not a single team in the epl has had more financial backing than City have. News flash - not all big teams come with bank accounts balance. Bayern are rich and always buy the best players within the league annually. Lewandowski was Klopp, Neuer, That list is long. Klopp is an underdog manager. He's a firm believer in developing players who are underrated.
I dare say, klopp has never signed a world class player in their prime. Never ever.
Couldn't win the champion league with bayern
@@23293 so what? Winning the Champions League isn't an easy thing to do. Mourinho was at Real Madrid for the same number of years and he didn't win the Champions League either. Guardiola has been in four UCL finals and won three. Ancelotti has won one more and Guardiola is much younger than Ancelotti. The UCL is the hardest thing to win and there are a lot of factors that contribute to winning. Many great teams and managers don't win it or don't win it more than once.
Before ppl say carra is being bias, kompany and stam both said the same
Stam said it coz he is a Dutch player ..
Max player says Rio and Terry are the best ever … what your point ?
@@dibeshshrestha9277 stam played for United too tho. Kompany definitely doesn’t have any connection to Liverpool either. Maldini also said the same
@darthpepe2994 coz I can name many players who are actually better than van dijk.. he is just hyped and Carragher named him as best coz he is a Liverpool player .. he still plays so there is a recently bias aswll ..
u guys haven’t seen how good other players were .. and look at the strikers now .. they rubbish other than 2-3 ..
Terry, rio, jaap , tony , vidic, and I can name few more who were better than Vandijk
And about Vandyke stats when these lots played there were no stats so ur stats mean nothing .. it’s about winning and playing at the top for a number of years .. if van dijk had played with the likes of henry, Rooney, ronaldo , drogba , bergcamp and many many more he would know .. these days you have haland and Kane and that’s it .. then you have ollie warkins who is not at the same level by a mile .
RIO is the best ever , 6 league title 1 Cl and he was the main part of that team ,
Jamie’s views are always on point and very unbiased, this is why he’s one of the best. Like to hear some of the others and you know they’d have bias picks
The players at Chelsea and at England that trained with John Terry all say that he was something else. Always better than everyone else.
Vidic all day
Liverpool fan, but has to be Sir Alex over Pep. The longevity, consistency and without relying on 1/few superstars as well as doing it organically, has to be him. The older managers just handled way more things beyond the coaching. The likes of Sir Alex, Paisley, etc did everything at the club so not really much comparison. For modern day managers, I'd say probably Sir Alex, Ancelloti, Pep, Jose, Klopp, Wenger.
Curious how you're taking Klopp over Wenger?
Where's Micah? 😂
he's a right back?
@@kibipennelli as a pundit...
His chilling with Kate
Getting his hair sprayed on😂
The graphic was showing Gareth SouthHate. 😅 What he said about the Sir Alex, that he won with a smaller Team and that is why he was chosing him over Guardiola. To be honest, then he should have chosen Klopp over Guardiola,too. Klopp always took a "smaller" team and won the maximum
Facts…you put Pep and Klopp’s Dortmund and Liverpool teams and he doesn’t win anything
What has VvD done that John Terry hasnt done?
Van Dijk is EASILY the greatest centre back.
Might not win as much as some others but on overall ability I think he is miles clear of everyone
Nice joke, you should try stand up comedy
True , his prime year is too short but none of the great defenders on this list got his defending skills.
I wish he this talent when he is 18 years old then nobody have doubt.
Appreciation for Del Bosque gained my like, good ball knowledge
fair play Cara. Final decison is spot on
I know I've been hating him for ages but my resoect for him. Increased after this
Not including Shanks or Paisley in the manager one was odd
True but it would be hard for them to truly rate them
John Terry’s Chelsea 04-05 season only conceded 15 goals all season.
In a team that was entirely built around not conceding goals. At an individual level Van Dijk is better.
@@aVerySmugeaf if we're talking an individual level, vidic is miles ahead of VVD and has won more than him
@@GameVaultTrailer Vidic got carried by Rio. Man was as likely to get sent off as he was to put in a 10/10. I always found it odd that people put him in the conversation when he wasn't even the best CB in his team. Ferdinand was clear, Van Dijk is better than Ferdinand and Vidic.
@@JaiAnt-ui7ip are you only able to judge a player if they're the only one on the pitch? Sounds like a hard life being that silly.
@@GameVaultTrailer😂😂
That manager stays on was brilliant, and I would say SAF as well because what he achieved with a club like Aberdeen will likely never be seen again. Managing to beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid on the way to winning a European Trophy was nothing short of a miracle.
Paisley should've been in this conversation
I agree 💯
Depends how you to measure 'greatest'. If its based on ability and transformative effect, the best ever CB is VVD.
Carra is a baller with his beautiful game knowledge. Loved and agreed with the manger breakdown but think there is some red bias re VVD being the best Pl defender ever
Is it Pep's fault he is so good that only world class teams want him? When you are the best, you will go to the best
People saying his ball knowledge elite and yet he unquestionably put Van Dijk above Vidic 😯
Imagine picking a man with 1 league title and 4-5 good seasons over someone like Ferdinand, Terry or Adams, all with at least 4 titles and 10 top seasons.
His bias towards Liverpool and recency bias is a joke.
You’re forgetting how good van dijk was at Southampton
@@callumLB05 Yes, that was definitely at the level of a league winning side like Adams, Ferdinand and Terry did for nearly a decade
@@MrPeanut17lufc yes because you definitely didn’t just say that van dijk has only had 4-5 “good” seasons when in reality he’s been playing at a top level for nearly 10.
@@callumLB05 no he hasn't, don't be silly.. before joining Liverpool he was nowhere near the level of Terry, Adams or Ferdinand, he missed all of 20/21 season and was average at best, last season.
Football fans have a tendency to look at previous footballers especially english defenders and put them up as perfection but I watched all these players growing up and albeit excellent CB's but on a purely individual level VVD is just an all round better CB then all 3 in my opinion.
For me its Terry /Liverpool fan
Virgil the 🐐
In an age where tackling is not allowed. Wouldn't have thought so.
RIP Virgil. Shame he died.
In the prem, MAYBE. Still nowhere near the level of Nesta, Ramos, Beckenbauer, Baresi. (Assuming that everyone in this comparison is in their prime)
@kizer0161 He's at the same level of those players
Pep is an already established manager of course he's not gonna take a team like that same for SAF if he was already established he wouldn't have taken abderdeen. Pep got the edge bro took over Barca first team as an inexperienced top coach and looked at players like Deco, Dinho, zambrotta and Eto'o on his first interview and said they aren't apart of his plans then went on to let some of them go promoted youngsters and brought in unknowns and went on to win 6 trophies on his debut season
@@JaiAnt-ui7ip quite juvenile of you. You must've been watching football through a kitchen window.
@Poopinthestreet-pajeeeet this isn't about who's more successful
Eto'o scored over 30 goals and scored in the CL final during Pep's first season, but agree about the rest.
@@scaredmuffin6371 not the point the point is Pep wasn't established and made that statement he sent off deco zambrotta and others Eto'o proved himself and asked to stay it was worth it. Many other manager wouldn't tell Eto'o, zambrotta, deco and Dinho they aren't apart of their plans my brother. They'd gladly take all those legends in the squad
@@JaiAnt-ui7ip as I said name the established manager that was in his prime and took over a team like Sunderland, Burnley, Wolvesburg, Stuttgart etc... only established managers do this are managers like Jose Mourinho and rafa benitez after they've failed at big clubs and nearing the ending of their managerial career their last "Hoorah"
I also feel that Pep won't be able to win major trophies with clubs that can't spend big money or those that already have star players.
That's just a hypothetical. Much like the revisionism of Mourinho's UCL win with Porto, not forgetting the amount of players he had that won the Ballon d'Or/were in the World XI. It's world class players like Deco, Ricardo Carvalho etc.
Why would Pep also go to a smaller team? Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't go to a small team to "prove" themselves. The best are for the best.
Titi's laughter when JC23 tried answering Stam and Desially is everything awesome and half😂😅...
Nobody calls Thierry or Carra those names.
@@SteveAustin-zv1nnim here thinkin JC23 .. .whos that guy😂
@@SteveAustin-zv1nnpeople say Titi sometimes, JC23 on the other hand...
Abel Xavier... There was a Middlesbrough beast
Paul mcgrath and Jonathan woodgate at Leeds need a mention
Wasn't mcgrath already like 34 when the premier league started?
I never really consider him for the 'premier league era'.
@@Jordy4610 And he still won PFA player of the year
woodgate? thats like saying maldini and shawcross
@@Harry-th4qo you're probably thinking of him post injuries.. before that he was considered by many as best English cb, you don't get signed for real Madrid for being Ryan shawcross.. unfortunately it couldn't have gone much worse for him after that
@@millercork
Sure, but a majority of his time was before the premier league era. I would more so consider him for best centreback in English top division.
dont agree with everything but knowledge of the game is respect worthy
I slightly, only barely, disagree on Sir Alex. He didn’t manage any European team but I believe he would be successful ANYWHERE
I think Terry edges it because he's also the highest scoring CB in PL history. People really forget how he contributes both ways, on top of being on of the league's best ever captains
Pep is the GOAT. He changed the modern football and won:
- Two trebles
- 3 Champions League
- He won in TOP leagues
He can only do it when he has unlimited bankroll and the most talent at the time. He literally has bounced from team to team based on the fact they were the most talented at the time. Joined Bayern when they were considered the most stacked team in football, and then did the same with Man City.
He isn't on Carlo, SAF or Mou level. Can only do it when there is sunshine.
John Terry gets forgotten 🤣
We would never know what pep would have done with a small team thank to Thierry ohenry getting frank rijkard sacked in 2008
VVD over Nemanja Vidić and John Terry is mental
I don’t get choosing Maurinho over Ancelloti!
Van Dijk🤣 He didn't face Prime Drogba, Henry, Rooney Shearer😂😂they would fold him😂😂😂
Paul Mcgrath won PFA players player but doesn't get a mention!
I wonder why???????
Underrated
Carra really knows football
i love this show i love jamie too much
Titi enjoys grilling his peers 😂
I agree with Jamie about SAF. Pep hasn't had to motivate a small team to get a major trophy. He's always had top players.
I know it's a hypothetical but does Peps Barcelona beat Man United without Messi? He is a absolute freak of nature that only comes along once in a life time.
Thiago Silva belongs to the all time category for me as well even though is premier league time is short
Bobby Moore is the best. This man never ever gets a mention. Played in horrid conditions yet he still operated like a Rolls Royce.
Most likely cause he played before the Prem
Clue is in the words Premier League 🙈
Behave. Bobby moore. Absolute shite
@@Cosmic-Wanderer bet you’re born in the 2000s no clue about football or life.
Nemanja Vidić 🔥🙌
Carlo always gets disrespected, won league in England, Spain, France, Italy and Germany. Plus 4 champions leagues.
Picking VVD over terry proves his ball knowledge is shocking
VVD had one good season, terry done it year in year out
Highest ever scoring defender, great captain great leader won everything and holds the record for only conceding 15 goals in one season in that back four
VVD is not the same after ACL injury
I've seen adams, rio, stam, vidic, terry, sol, king but for me virgil is the greatest center back for sure people should stop being bias to their former club center backs
How could you not even mention Vidić...
Finally SAF getting some respect for his earlier achievements.
Ancelotti is the greatest manager to do it. hes won everywhere at the highest level for so many years
It must be Harry Magwaya the goat of CBs
Needed Shankly and Clough in this debate
Some wild takes here. Kompany, Rio, Campbell, Vidic, Adams, all comfortably better than VVD, not even close
Kompany & vidic nowhere near as complete as VVD.
Campbell, Rio definitely were
@@louisdavies8050 agree to disagree I guess. I feel like VVD gets ridiculously overrated
Nice game👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 we need more
Terry, Vidić, Rio, Adams top4, choose whoever you want as 5th.
Paul McGrath
VVD over Terry Madness
John Terry, Alex Ferguson
I dont know why People always complain... This is his personal opinión, you all said that Carra is crazy or doesn't know anything about football... Carra was not the best defense, but he still played at first división in premier league. Have some respect... To me Ronaldinho is the best player ever when he was at his prime, and thats my opinión, and u guys can like any other player and is no problem.
Also, im pretty sure Carra knows, in general, more about football than any of you
The only one who won PL Player of the season twice.
If we judging on premier league we have someone who never won premier league judging based on premier league and he feels like some of those names can be less or equal in the term of defensive level.
Jose was never wrong guys.
Jaap Stam and VVD definitely top picks
HOW can you choose Mourinho over Ancelotti ??? NO !!! but spot on about Cruyiff, nobody changed football, first as a player, then as a coach as him, Guardiola is the result, perfected of his work.
John Terry is the best CB that's been in the league.
No chance, he looked good with Mourinhos Bus, Rio and VVD alot better.
@@WebleyCrusher c'mon that's nonsense and you know it. I'd put Rio and Virgil right behind him but John Terry was unreal on his day. Even with his lack of pace he made up for it with positioning and anticipation.
I think that, if you were building a CB from scratch, they would have most of VVD's qualities. If you were picking based on what theyve won in their career, Terry takes it.
Cara judges on what they have done in the premier league…. And he chooses VVD over Terry?????? Huh???? 5 premier league titles over VVD 1??