A Deep Dive Into Super Mario Maker's Crazy Loading Algorithm!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- Over the years the Super Mario Maker community found many crazy and unbelievable tricks in Super Mario Maker. We found ways to forbid Mario to jump, we found ways to build calculators, we found crazy glitches and much much more. But, at least in my opinion, the most interesting Super Mario Maker tricks, are those that make use of Super Mario Makers crazy loading algorithm. In this video, we are going to take one final deep dive into Super Mario Makers crazy quantuum loading shenanigans. We will take a look back at how some of the craziest Super Mario Maker contraptions worked, we will take a deep dive into how mario maker actually works below it’s shiny surface, and we will finally answer the eternal question: Does a Muncher exist, if nobody looks at it!
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Awesome, this is really a worthy last video about SMM1! @Ceave Gaming
However, you really need to be very careful regarding those global thwomps on firebars, because there's a catch! The sprite limit fluctuates rarely, because the item slot from the donut blocks isn't occupied for just one frame every time they drop. It took long to establish, but I'm sure the setup cannot be trusted.
So I highly recommend *not* using this setup when the sprite count needs to be accurate, because it will rarely but surely break your level! Instead, try to rather use thwomps and donut blocks without firebars and make sure they stay spawned below the player without global ground tricks This way you can still fill up the sprite limit with reset options and have a consistent sprite count. :)
I guess nobody want to comment
@@klcompany7303 cuz hes speaking a foreign language
Potato ! Ok makes sense
Aren't you the calculator creator? In that case: BIG FAN!
@@sevi630 Indeed, thank you! ^^
5 years from now:
"Ceave how did you become president of the entire planet"
"Well, it's surprisingly simple"
True
Very true!
@@Cr1ticA A lot of truth!
*HOORAY!*
McDude “all I did was trick the election algorithm by using 15 machines to automatically change everyones votes to mine”
"But first we need to talk about donut overflowing" is my new "But first, we need to talk about parallel universes."
And if you thought my other tangents were surprisingly simple, just you wait.
Even if some SMM1 tricks don't work in SMM2, I'm sure hundreds of new tricks will arise from all the new assets!
You're not wrong.
I know, right? The claws and seesaws especially.
Yup
Yup
Yup
Q: "Does a muncher exist if nobody looks at it?"
A: "Well, if it is less than 4 blocks away from the camera, yes, otherwise, no, except if it stands on a fire bar, since this is global ground, but only if the fire bar got pre-loaded before, otherwise it's 'no' again, if the muncher lives inside a question block then it does exist as long as the block isn't more than 4 blocks away from the camera, otherwise it doesn't, except if the ELB value is currently above 100, in which case it doesn't exist until the limit is cleared, and if the muncher is on a track then it doesn't exist until it is loaded for the first time, but afterwards it always exists. So the next time someone asks you this, now you know the answer."
Ferociousfeind hoooray
Yes I do!
Neat
Obviously! Makes so much sense!
David Velasco what... that’s now how you use woooosh
Videos like these really make you appreciate how much effort goes into these games.
It may not be the case. Perhaps was it exploits, not Nintendo being divine geniuses.
@@nouche So it still shows you the amount of effort. They didn't patch it.
@Lycanroc Dusk That isn't effort. That's just not caring because loading exploits don't mess anything up like phantom jumps and duplication.
@@rysea9855 : There wasn't much reason for patching that. And still, I don't see the link between effort and not patching something.
Well the people who figured this out put effort into it
"This evil coin becomes an alright brick block."
I don't know why, but this is my favorite quote from this xD
Finally, a decent comment!
What's the most complicated way to answer a simple question?
Ask Ceave
*Actually, its surpisingly simple*
Hey, how do i use a keyboard?
*Well first you have to buy a keyboard, I prefer mine from walmart, Then after you steal your ex's sister's pocket knife and open it it, you use your fingertips to press each key and then whichever key you press makes a letter.*
*Actually, it's surprisingly simple.*
#WhatIsTheMostComplicatedWayToTriggerAPswitch
What’s the *best* way to answer a simple question?
Ask cease
People in 5 years: Ceave, how did you get so many people to copy the same surprisingly simple joke?
Ceave: Well, it's surprisingly simple...
@Chickentenders *R/WOoOsH*
Was this a woosh inside a woosh?
@RandomSchoolStudent2 r/woosh
@Quasar r/ihavenoinsults
hit him with r/prequelmemes if you have no insuts then :) @@iane7474
Mario Maker is coming in 3 days!
*Dawn of the 1st Day*
*- 72 Hours Remain -*
I know, I'm so excited! I already pre-ordered. When you put it in Majora's Mask time, it seems a lot shorter, lol
XD
Zelda Maker
Dance all day if you want time to go faster.
When 6 hours remain I'ma use the song of time
That's overkill.
My friend: “Mario is so simple and childish.”
Me: **Chuckles**
Mario Maker 2 is so close now. It feels like yesterday that it got announced.
I know right?!
3 days
True
True
It feels like 1 year ago.. I can't wait!
Hey ceave, I reverse engineered the undo system and worked out how it causes the new black hole glitch and duplication glitch etc etc, could I explain it to you on discord or something?
Wow
Bump
I never actually got back to you on discord yet but there are a couple further questions I have on the explanations
Thumbing this up to Ceave can see this, hopefully.
Explain it here for everyone to see
As a level designer it's surreal seeing people "physically" program things that you would usually just do with normal code.
physically -> really
In 3 years we will look back at this video and say dang so much has changed since then!
OBSIDIAUS IS A BAD NAME in 3 years we will be hyped for Mario maker 3 lol
More like 3 days
OBSIDIAUS IS A BAD NAME yep that sure is how time works :I
lol
dang so much has changed since then!
*Ceave in 2 years*
Prisoner:"What are you in for?"
Ceave:"I showed millions of people how to make things stop existing"
This is my most liked comment ever :0
Thanks
i earased 32 munchers from existans, and made theyre families forget them entirely; you?
oh i disliked cea-
i earased 33 munchers from existans
secure. ceave. protect.
Secret coin. Ceave. P switch
You made a mistake. It should be:
Prisoner:"What are you in for?"
Ceave:"Well, it's surprisingly simple; I showed millions of people how to make things stop existing. Hooray!"
380k*
Looking forward to your lessons and tutorials on mario maker 2 stuff Professor Ceave!
"Does a muncher exist if no one looks at it?"
Schrodinger's Muncher
That’s not schrodinger , schrodinger is when nobody can see something they are both in one state and and another at the same time ex the cat is both dead and alive
Thats an Einstein quote "Does the moon exist if I dont look at it" regarding Heisenberg uncertainty principle. No schrödinger involved.
Imagine being inaccurate
Ceave forgets to put a key on bowser jr.
Mario: CEAVEEEEEE did you forget the key again...
Yes........................ he did
If the bowser does have the key, there is actually a cheese strat to get it. Just trigger the collapse so that BJ dies before you do and then go through the door. The "better" solution is actually to have the key in a ? block that is triggered by a launcher that is ELB locked.
At least I think so, I have never actually played the game.
CEEEEEEEEAVE THAT KILLS PLUMBERS
Again???( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Mario: CEEAAAVEEE that kills people!
9:27 "that's brick blocks, block blocks, clouds, donut blocks..."
"And most importantly, donut blocks, and invisible blocks"
???
ikr
so important, he said it twice
Why does he say block blocks anyway? They're hard blocks.
I guess it's like you said, Sean Tanner, so important he said it twice.
Logo I was literally looking to see if anyone else noticed
@@lieveserpieters9163 their called block blocks
Quantum muncher physics are great! I hope they don't change anything in MM2.
it will give us MORE stuff to learn from ceave!!!!! isnt learning great? well you might answer no which ill ask you then..... isnt CEAVE learning great?
Here's a quick thing: Global ground doesn't exist in the 3DS version.
Wait, what?
The 3DS is really underpowered, so it needs to save every little bit of operating power
Wait, that means...
WE CAN MAKE LEVELS WHICH DETECT IF YOU'RE ON 3DS?
WAIT, IMPOSSIBLE 3DS LEVELS?
That version was pretty underwhelming since the beginning, tbh. You have to unlock the stage parts by playing through rather hard levels, mystery mushrooms aren't available and you can't share your stages, plus all that. I agree that the 3DS has its limitations, but still.
it does exist i have levels based on global ground
I've been curious about this subject for a while, thanks ceave!
Advanced smm1 techniques or muncher philosopy
"It's actually surprisingly simple. You see, In physics, string theory is a theoretical framework in which the point-like particles of particle physics are replaced by one-dimensional objects called strings. It describes how these strings propagate through space and interact with each other. On distance scales larger than the string scale, a string looks just like an ordinary particle, with its mass, charge, and other properties determined by the vibrational state of the string. In string theory, one of the many vibrational states of the string corresponds to the graviton, a quantum mechanical particle that carries gravitational force. Thus string theory is a theory of quantum gravity.
String theory is a broad and varied subject that attempts to address a number of deep questions of fundamental physics. String theory has been applied to a variety of problems in black hole physics, early universe cosmology, nuclear physics, and condensed matter physics, and it has stimulated a number of major developments in pure mathematics. Because string theory potentially provides a unified description of gravity and particle physics, it is a candidate for a theory of everything, a self-contained mathematical model that describes all fundamental forces and forms of matter. Despite much work on these problems, it is not known to what extent string theory describes the real world or how much freedom the theory allows in the choice of its details.
String theory was first studied in the late 1960s as a theory of the strong nuclear force, before being abandoned in favor of quantum chromodynamics. Subsequently, it was realized that the very properties that made string theory unsuitable as a theory of nuclear physics made it a promising candidate for a quantum theory of gravity. The earliest version of string theory, bosonic string theory, incorporated only the class of particles known as bosons. It later developed into superstring theory, which posits a connection called supersymmetry between bosons and the class of particles called fermions. Five consistent versions of superstring theory were developed before it was conjectured in the mid-1990s that they were all different limiting cases of a single theory in eleven dimensions known as M-theory. In late 1997, theorists discovered an important relationship called the AdS/CFT correspondence, which relates string theory to another type of physical theory called a quantum field theory.
One of the challenges of string theory is that the full theory does not have a satisfactory definition in all circumstances. Another issue is that the theory is thought to describe an enormous landscape of possible universes, and this has complicated efforts to develop theories of particle physics based on string theory. These issues have led some in the community to criticize these approaches to physics and question the value of continued research on string theory unification."
copy paste from wikipedia lol
when I read this, my brain turned into the bobomb below the muncher.
Do you think anyone will read this...?
@@TeaShrooomPog no not really.
I understand everything I've read, how?
Well, it's surprisingly simple.
I only read the first sentence.
Muncher- You're approaching me?
Mario- I can't despawn the blaster without getting closer
Muncher- well then, come at close as you like.
Ceave, how did you find the secret of eternal happiness and life?
“Actually, it’s surprisingly simple”
Eternal life is a curse everyone knows that
@@_catzee On earth it would be.
4:55 Er, not quite. Objects have unique spawn and despawn limits. A moving shell (as used to measure the limit) despawns at exactly 26 blocks away from Mario, however a Muncher (and the majority of enemies) despawns at only 18 blocks away from Mario.
“Does a muncher exist if nobody looks at it?”
Schrodinger’s Muncher
Dude somebody has to make the "It's surprisingly simple" thing into a meme. :)
I absolutely love the fact that people managed to work around the limitations of a grid-based level editor and created stuff I couldn't even imagine.
I cant wait for Ceave to build a fully functional quantum computer in SMM2.
With all these tricks/querks that should be possible, right?
It is possible and actually, it's surprisingly simple.
Ceave, pants down this is one of the best (if not the best) videos you have ever created! The structure in this one was just perfection, since you knew what you wanted to deliver to us as an audience and you did so in such a (surprisingly) simple manner, that anyone could enjoy it with any level of knowledge about the game. Anyone can take something out of the video, be it Mario-Maker-Mechanics, the entertainment or even how physics behave in a game.
On top of that, you gave people in these 17 min. something to actually work with within the game. You proved your ''laws'', which actually makes them laws (mathematicly speaking), so that you can toy with them further.
I wish you the best of luck in the future and keep creating videos!
Greetings from germany, dear neighbour!
Thank you so much ceave for all the work you did on this game
The three most common words you can hear from Ceave:
“Surprisingly.”
“Simple.”
“Hooray.”
And “HOO-RAY!
"Hooray"
Since you guys are suggesting it, I’ll add it.
Smm2 story mode: *exists*
Toadette: gimme yar money
Ceave: hold my non-existing coin
That question in the thumbnail, for some reason or another, sounds deep to me. It's like the Mario equivalent of "If a tree falls and no body is there to hear it does it make a sound?".
Wow I could tell how much effort you put into this video! Makes up for not as much uploading :)
After 50 videos I finally remember shells on top of firebars already loaded hit the block: it’s so surprisingly simple now ceave! Keep up the good work! If I can learn, you can teach anyone!
I'm excited for the people who will recreate Mario Maker 1 in Mario Maker 2
Hey Ceave, I just wanted to take the time to thank you for all of your wonderful videos. My son is 5 years old and has been watching your videos to get ideas for Super Mario Maker 1, and now he has SMM 2, and we look forward to your perspective. Your vids are the best, your commentary is hilarious, and we love watching them together and being inspired. Thank you for all your hard work.
This is the single best video on youtube.
I'm constantly blown away by how effectively and entertainingly you can explain such complex technical mechanics in games
Mario maker may soon be retired, but the community won't be
Ibrahim Shaikh good point
Ibrahim Shaikh most of the community will move to Mario maker 2, though it sucks that to play online we need switch online membership
CEAVE wont be
@@PoIarism I think that's why people will stay. The people who don't have a switch or don't have member and that's a lot of people!!
@@unneccry2222 unless he does some kind of visiting after a long time videos
Ceave: It's surprisingly simple
Me: This is harder than Quantum physics
Of course. Quantum Physics are surprisingly simple!
3:24
When you're unsure about your self-loading properties and are depressed about it...
Make an appointment with Dr. Ceavemund. Call today!
I’ve watched almost all your Super Mario Maker videos, and I’m excited to begin a new journey. I’m excited to see all the new possibilities in Super Mario Maker 2, and I’ll be looking forward to your videos on the game. This is a new beginning! 🙌
17 minute Ceave video?
Hooray!
I love your vids, especially the entity loading ones! I had a hard time understanding it first, but now that you put it all in one video, it really is surprisingly simple!
I haven’t watched ceave in a long time since i stopped playing mario maker I remember ceave had 2.5k crazy now he has almost 400k good job ceave
Thanks for making this Ceave. Now I can finish my 3 different calculators. I needed a reminder on doughnut overflowing for them to work. Can't wait for SMM2
YES YOU DID NOT FORGET ABOUT THE SPACE BASE PLANS
8:22 Once loaded, a Muncher on global ground doesn't CEAVE to exist, until it leaves the global ground. Amazing pun, Ceave.
Local TH-camr torments Old Man Mario Maker
Lol
I remember when I first watched your videos it was immediately after the March 9, 2016 update for Mario Maker 1. I remember you had hundreds or thousands of subscribers back then. Boy how much you’ve grown, and I’ve been on TH-cam much longer.
Wait... the moment I clicked the video, you had 380,000 subs...
Absolute LOVE these videos, and this was a great deep-dive sendoff for MM1! Can't wait to see what you and all the other creators come up with for MM2, definitely hype.
Can't wait to see the new contraptions in Super Mario Maker 2.
Samus: "How do metroids work?"
Ceave: "Well, it's actually suprisingly simple."
Does a muncher exist if nobody looks at it?
Crave: Well... 16:46
This isn't really relevant, but I recently found your profile on Super Mario Maker 1 and it was honestly the happiest moment I've ever experienced in the game.
I think it's safe to say my experience with the first game ended on a high note. Hoo-ray!
Holy moly....
Talk about taking a philosophical question too far.
Next week he's gonna be holding the country hostage with some question about falling trees.
16:49 - "Does a muncher if nobody exist looks at it?" ... Wise words Ceave! Great video. Bringing a lot of hype to SMM2! See you on the other side
It’s amazing how much effort you put into each and every video! Keep it up ceave!
Can’t wait to see what you do in SMM2! I’m hyped 😄
*Ceave does a smm video after smm2 Is out*
Literally everyone: HUZZAH! A MAN OF CULTURE!
It should be:"HUZZAH a man of coulity"
People keep saying Mario Maker 1 is dead.
But people aren't going to immedietly abandon it.
It will still get used.
Some of your best work yet. I don't even play Mario Maker, but I love all your Mario Maker vids. Thank you for all the effort you put in!
“Does a muncher if nobody exist looks at it?”
16:48
..... Correction : “Does a muncher, if nobody exist, look at it?”
Very good little look back from SMM ceave! Can't wait to see what you come up with in SMM 2!
Also, for anyone reading this, do you think the scroll stop feature will effect any of this?
I am so proud of TH-cam, 24 views and 24 likes.
Ceave, you really know alot about Mario Maker technical things. I have no clue how you figured this out, but nonetheless, I'm very impressed with how smart you are. Nice video as always!
15:35
How is this basic.
Im still confused.
have you been listening?!!!?!?!? well im a ceaveteran myself so i had time to train.
@@unneccry2222 im subscribed to him since years but Im stupid and its almost holiday time...
the ones digit of the like count when you like is what video game character you are:
0: Mario
1: Mega Man
2: Kirby
3: Steve (from Minecraft)
4: Noob (from Roblox)
5: Cappy
6: Cuphead
7: Samus
8: Pit
9: Link
Kevin Zakowicz
Kirby
Farewell Mario maker!🎼🎵🎶
Ceave to exist lol
ceave ceave ceave ceave ceave
The only problem with the first setup (the collapsing bowser jr. arena) is that if Jr. gets crushed early enough, Mario will get the key and be able to go in the door.
Ceave: "Does a muncher exists if nobody looks at it?"
Screen: 0:38
Me: Ceave, how do you tell such interesting narratives when you set up your videos?
Ceave: it’s actually surprisingly simple.
Can’t wait for the 2 videos
how many ogs are wondering why is most of the video filled with easy contraptions
I am René DESCARTES and I approuve this video, Cease.
Always a good time when I watch your channel.
I can’t wait for your analysis on Mario Maker 2
How will loading work in vertical levels? I am kinda interested in finding out.
Also: go to 12:51 and hit play, it shows an F on the pipes.
TH-cam is obviously paying respects to the disappeared munchers
I love the wholesome way you describe things. You always manage to make me smile!
I love your content!
Senpai Ceave do a face reveal.
Senpai Ceave do a face reveal.
Waiting for MM2 slope crouch challenge
I wanna see it so bad
Ceave how did you power a nuclear powerplant using mario maker?
Ceave: Well it's suprisingly simple.
Best Mario Maker channel on TH-cam. Never stop doing those!
I have always watched your great videos Ceave. But for some time, I have wanted for you to change your opinion on hammer bros for Super Mario Maker 2. The Bros have set up a level for you called the Bros Apoligize to gove you inspiration on the ideas they can be used for! The code is D1E1-0000-03E0-E256. I hope this ends your grudge against them.
11:50
"How ouching"
We love you.
the dislikes are the munchers more than 16 blocks from the camera
cuz theres none
did you know? there are 11 satans! cuz there are 11 dislikes???????!?!?! wtf yt is broken
Uploaded on my BIRTHDAY?! You've outdone yourself, Ceave. Outdone yourself.
Wait what? This comment got uploaded twice apparently. Ok.
does a muncher exist if nobody looks at it?
well yes but actually no
6:12 missed the opportunity to slap the metroid fanfare there
Ceave you are a smart smart guy
When smm 2 comes out, I hope that ceave can come up with some tricks, tips, and ideas with on/off switches
When I can't play Mario maker on 3ds and Wii U.
Today I lost more than you can know. 😢
Love these sort of videos @Ceave Gaming - would love to see a video on 'most hidden Dev exits' using glitches and unusual techniques. I've always found them fascinating!
Who else misses smm1
You're like a new Sethbling, a love of Mario and alot of informational content
I love the super metroid parody also that is "totally a chozo statue"
With SMM2 launching TOMORROW,
It’s time to put SMM1 into a good ol’ retirement home! We uploaded impossible levels, we played with the black hole glitch, we kept on running, we never looked back, we saved Yoshi, we lagged the game so much that playing one level would take forever,
we prevented jumps and ground pounds, and we showed them dumb and evil coins whose BOSS!!!! Some of these were tricky and others were...
Surprisingly simple.
But nonetheless, the experiences we’ve had with Super Mario Maker were unforgettable. Now the sequel is mere
HOURS away, and you bet there will be so much fun to be had, but SMM1 was what started it all. Thank you Mario Maker!
WOOOO BOY, that was WAY more emotional than I wanted it to be!!
Okay, this is actually freaking crazy. I learned so much. Like forget taking astrophysics in college, this stuff is astonishing. lol.