Jonny gave them self confidence and taught them how to defend themselves but he never taught them how to deal with their anger and rage towards people/society. That's because he never figured it out himself.
Well said! Though, Johnny was able to manage his anger around the Karate meeting episode ( imagine punching them but not do that in real life). I guess he hasn't been able to know how to teach others that yet and is still stuck with Kreese's teaching. Seeing Miguel, who taught Johnny that, falling to the dark side is even sadder.
No mate, he taught them how to let their anger and rage and frustration into their fist, into their fights, and that’s exactly what they did, let their anger into the fight, let their frustrations dictate their actions
When Daniel clapped his hands and started rubbing them together, only to call for a medic, that had me lmao! I love the silly, self-referential moments on this show.
well yeah his been busy with family after his time of being a karate kid was over....and he didn't even or probably didn't ask Miyagi on how to use that kind of healing hands....and yeah when i saw that too i was like "You kidding me...."...XP
I bet what went through his head was something like: "Alright. So i guess you do this........T..........h.........e...........n......Oh i forgot" "MEDIC!"
@@Star-nl5id I don't think you know how life works, how muscle and trainning does lol its a fiction story yeah, but it was so stupid that it broke the "suspension of disbelief" just like a soup story
Compare this to the season 4 finale and you'll see how far hawk has come. The parallel in season 4 with Hawk being Miyagi Do and Robby being Cobra Kai. Hawk was always near Robby's level since the beginning, he almost trained from the very beginning like Miguel, it's just that that plot required Hawk to loose fights in season 2 and 3 when he was the bad guy
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Exactly. Both have matured in their own way and gosh damn the choreography difference. And in the s4 fight. It was the first time they showed respect to one another
Hawk, Season 1; I'm weak Season 2; I am a BADA** Season 3; I was an a**hole (most of) season 4; Who am I? Season 4 (last episode); I... am.. Eli, "HAWK"... *defeats Robby* MOSKOWITZ!!!!
I love the detail that went into this series. Daniel is great at being a mentor, and the way they cut to Johnny when they talk about 'bad teachers' is a nice touch. They put as much love and attention to detail into this series as they did into the movies, and that makes all the difference IMO. It's not just a big glorified commercial for two middle-aged actors and a thirty-year old trilogy. It's a series that is every bit as authentic and substantial as the movies, probably even moreso. It's a formula that works.
I think that is really meant to touch on how Johnny had a "bad teacher", Johnny was clearly discouraging his own students from acting unethically. Mr Miyagi had his issues too,
“He’s not a monster……he’s just a guy with a lot of demons” I always loves this seen so much Johnny has always been my favorite ever since the first movie honestly but this seen beautiful sculpts why I love him so much it’s cause he’s never been bad just had too shed his weak skin and become strong cause that’s all he had his real father is gone his step dad is awful and his mother was all he had plus cobra Kai it’s the only true place that made him belong again those kids weren’t bad they just wanted a peace of the action same as Johnny he wanted that action too and he lives forever with that “bite mark of the cobra” that creese gave him,those are the demons that stay with Johnny
I agree Daniel's speech for what Miyagi told that there's no such things as bad student, only bad teacher. That's true. The student from cobra kai were kind heart 'til they choose the wrong path and turn them into aggressive person.
It’s not like they’re in a gang, it’s karate. Look at that short nerd kid with glasses. The support he got from those kids, if this is real life I would’ve send my kid to this dojo. Instead of creepy one on one session with a grown ass dude.
Cobra kai would be your average MMA Gym (a popular chant in brazil is "tu vas mourir" "you will die"). I think there is nothing wrong with agression if its controlled, Hawk just let his emotions get the better of him and overreacted.
+Tony Mario both of u r right in ur own way! how ever being aggressive dosent have to he controlled its like dogs some dogs r naturally aggressive Akida's there naturally aggressive because there boned to one person! hawk is no exception yes he was bullied because of his they made fun of his lip but some go insane or aggressive because they were bullied hawk let that get the best of him
BS. They need balance and to restrain themselves, but they're much better off now than they were before Cobra Kai. Would you rather be a little too aggressive of a person, or a suicidal outcast?
I’m starting to wonder if Hawk is going to be the true enemy of the series like he thinks Johnny has taught him nothing and sees Kreese as the stronger teacher
2:10 Miguel seemed mad at Hawk for what he did to Robby. For those who do not want Miguel to be seen as the villain, here is a very important hint of how he is still a good kid but is just lost in his way of standing up from all the bullying and abuse he suffered. OR this could be Miguel being mad that Hawk did not leave Robby for himself to finish off in the finals
In my opinion, I find it sad how Miguel went from such an innocent good kid who truly cared for his loved ones to such an aggressive person. I'm happy that he learned to defend himself and that he has friends who love him, but seeing him on the path of becoming a bully himself is quite tough
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"And your dad, had the worst teacher there ever was. It sent him down a wrong path. But you don't have to go down that path. Do you understand? You don't have to ever become him." Oh the turntables........
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, and also the part during the match where he remembers his training with Daniel where Daniel tells him to "search for the good inside" and it's just a shot of him closing his eyes and meditating, so sad to look back and see considering what he's like now at the end of S3
Yeah it's pretty sad but he still does have a chance to not end up like Johnny did if both his teacher and dad can save him. I honestly wouldn't have set him up as the villain in s3, i think he should have sworn off karate after what he did. And when shawn and the others pick on him he shouldn't have done anything. And on his time in prison he finds a friend whose life is on danger later in the season but shawn but robby uses miyagi do karate to save him.
I have this feeling that this talk here is what is going to change Robby again. I think that in the s4 tournament, there's going to be a reason where Robby remembers this talk and gives up on Cobra Kai.
Why does no one talk about how Daniel said to Robby that his Father was just misguided and wasn't evil, That just shows the remorse that Daniel had for Johnny.
After watching Cobra Kai, I realized something- Hawk is actually a pretty amazing martial artist in this. I mean, he went up against the top of the top (Robby for example) and was doing well, up until the end. It was then that he got frustrated. I have a feeling that him getting frustrated is what really fucks him over in the end. He is quite the guy, but when it comes to him and his emotions, he can't control himself.
True at that point, but now things have become strained between them again. I hope by the end, they are able to reconcile. After all they’ve been through together, it would be upsetting to end things that way.
@@oddestdylan yeah but robby only wins due to plot same how in Karate kid daniel only wins because of plot im sure in a real fight Hawk would win as he has more training
@@organicflayer6629 Robby even beat Miguel technically in season 2. Plus now hawk got jealous Bc everybody in cobra kai liked Robby more. Robby is definitely gonna be even stronger next season
I love the psychology in this fight, I can feel the animosity between these 2 characters that don't even know each other, but we know their backstories and the hate they have. I liked the fact that Robby found Eli's weakness very fast (His haircut, because that's the source of his confidence and security) Mocking him of being a softy pretender and Eli's reaction showing that Robby is right about him.
@@foehawk-od4cc hawk wouldn’t give a crap about his 2inch arms he’d probably stuff them down robby’s throat somehow. Op’s comment about the hawk bring his weakness is right
@@landon8987 i think johnny Miguel and robby's plotline will be a little deeper and maybe a bit detached fron the whole karate feud next season. I would be absolutely excited fot Miguel and robby to become an actual tag team and save the myagi dos in the final episode tho
2:11 i like how Miguel is annoyed at Hawk for fighting dirty but he does that later himself to Robby by targeting his shoulder 🤦♂️ Hawk assisted him in a way.
Well he was not wrong in targeting the shoulder....they are in a competitive tournament...besides the illegal move, nothing was wrong in miguel targeting robbie arm....
@@bbp2930 yeah...I admit the illegal moves were wrong but targeting the shoulder was nothing wrong...I mean if you play a soccer game and you know that your opponent team has a player completely unskilled wouldn't you pass the ball to the players near him since he's a noob?
Hawk is your average karate class bully. The one who came by the mat once every two weeks to release pressure and waste newbies. Therefore, it makes him strong enough to deal with weaklings or less agressive fighters, but no match for skilled ones. Miguel has dedication, kime(confidence and accuracy) and is a natural technician. Robbie is approaching Miguel's level in S2, making Hawk a sandbag for both. I like Hawk though.
@@ThePenroseIncident I disagree if given the chance hawk will fight anyone like in the finale he fought eight people from m do. Also he can slide many of the skilled fighters including Robby. Hawk focuses more on strength rather than technical which makes him more aggressive and in theory less of a challenge but that couldn't be further from the truth hawk is a pretty capable fighter in the standards of their show. Also hawk is dedicated to the dojo as he threatened to beat up his best friend who might I add he had included in everything up until that point over a yelp review that's dedication to a craft.
@@jackieboy0005 I see your point, Hawk is bad-ass and i actually like his way of fighting and his evolution. What I mean is that Hawk isn't a natural like Miguel or Johnny. I don't consider Robby being superiorly skilled neither, I'd say his plot armor makes him look like he is. Miguel is the best fighter amongst the kids IMO, while Johnny is actually the most skilled adult in CK S1 et S2 (That might change if Chozen stars in S3). I'm sorry if my opinion sounds quite subjective though, I train in martial arts for 30 years now it's mostly my guts speaking lol.
Probably going to be all over Kreese next season when/if Kreese takes over and approves of the "No Mercy" methods that Hawk is enforcing for Cobra Kai.
Robby can’t handle aggression fighting aggressive himself he’s better at defense and Hawk took his experience from being in cobra Kai and now Miagi Dojo and combined both to beat Robby
Hawk and Robby are two polar opposites. Hawk was born shy and harmless leading him to become a bully victim, which made him go all raging bully to compensate for that. Robby grew up in a troubled family, leading to him becoming a delinquent, doing a bunch of criminal acts, which toughened him up, but not learning how to restraint his anger and demonstrate kindness. Something he learned through Miyagi Do.
Ok but where was robby walking to when he turned his back? All he had to do was take 2 steps back but instead looks like he's walking off the mat. I didnt hear him call a time out either.
"Ok but where was robby walking to when he turned his back?" -- I'm guessing he was walking back to the "line". Although there was no literal "line" on the mat to mark where you're supposed to stand, both fighters go back behind the line after each round. Admittedly he was walking way too far off.
See? Anyone who says Daniel is the villain needs to see this. This is who Daniel is. He may never be friends with Johnny but he will always do what's right. People need to stop looking at the story in black and white extremes.
That's the thing. Daniel always thinks he's doing the right thing. By what exactly? Accusations? Starting Miyagi Do again despite already having a prosperous life? He's the one being spiteful. And every one of those traits were inherited by Sam in the ABSOLUTE WORST. She's so self righteous, entitled, and so damn hypocritical on what she did to Miguel, Aisha and even Tory. She's a literal goody two shoes who doesn't know JACKSHIT about true kindness.
@@memecliparchives2254 also thats not true, that was not even implied in the comment what do you mean thats the thing, he just said that this is who daniel is, he motivates, he teaches.
@@hawk484 no need to be defensive and yes i was talking about miguel not you the fact that miguel didnt aprove hawk cheapshotting robby from behind which by the way doesnt make you a badass but a wuss.
00:11 The weird badass Sound of Red Hawk has it's debut in blue hawk's final season Fight. Like that they reused that Sound in his most aggressive situations.
Robby is my favorite character in this show because just like his father he changed over the course of the season. Johnny and Robby should get together privately to train against the new cobra Kai regime led by Reese. I can imagine Robby using a mixed style and him and his father bonding over little things.
Rw Chitown he can still join cobra kai and learn from his father and bond and he can be the first person to ever learn the both style of cobra kai and miygi dojo karate
I like how even though Daniel says here that he'll never like Johnny, they did manage to bond, however briefly. If like is out of the question, maybe respect has a chance.
*1:48** That was Johnny's problem. He never taught his students emotional control. Only if someone offended you, would you have to attack brutally, without fear and mercy.*
I like Daniel’s face when he sees Johnny confronting Hawk... in that very moment Daniel realised that Johnny changed and the fact that he’s not Kreese.
I really feel bad for Hawk, not because of the fight, but because of how this is basically everything he’s learned from the world with Johnny’s motto of No Mercy and how merciless the world was to him. When a reject finally learns to stand up for themselves it’s gonna take a long time to learn when boundaries are placed
Cobra Kai has a really good formula. 10 eps per season leaving little room for filler (though I wish there were a few more, cause there was potential), the throwbacks, the characters’ individual stories, even the humor. I love Cobra Kai and now I need to start it again
This was a most interesting turn of events: first of all it took Johnny's own flesh and blood to get hurt by such dirty tactics that he employed to get him to reconsider his ways (at least for the time); secondly the student's (mainly both Hawk and Miguel) really embodied the spirit of Cobra Kai (no mercy and ruthless aggression) in a way that was next level in this tournament.
Damn this really parallel's the season 4 ending fight so well, both of them swap sides, they both come from different sides, in here the miyagi student just regains his confidence and the cobra kai student is always aggresive. Hawk's first fight with rob ended with a disqualification, then in his final one ended with him winning grand champion. FUCK
I’m surprised they didn’t do an eye for an eye as in Robby would cheat, I’m glad they didn’t despite what everyone else’s thoughts he’s still my favorite
The bit where Daniel tries doing the Mr Miyagi "magic hands", only to realize he had no clue, and calls for a medic = Brilliance
Guess Miyagi didn't teach him that technique.
Catspaw A grown man doing "magic hands" on his pupil risks being arrested for inappropriate contact now.
I think Mr Miyagi knew it was mind games. Placebo if you will
I think Daniel never bothered to learn it. He mostly focused on the Karate that he forgot the healing aspect of Miyagi-Do.
yeah i cried at that part I love Robby
Jonny gave them self confidence and taught them how to defend themselves but he never taught them how to deal with their anger and rage towards people/society. That's because he never figured it out himself.
Daniel is 3/3 toward Robby. Which, ironically, is going to go a long way in restoring the once-damaged father-son bond.
David Dickerson grfbrfŷht
The student speaks for the teacher in all that he does or say.
Well said!
Though, Johnny was able to manage his anger around the Karate meeting episode ( imagine punching them but not do that in real life). I guess he hasn't been able to know how to teach others that yet and is still stuck with Kreese's teaching.
Seeing Miguel, who taught Johnny that, falling to the dark side is even sadder.
No mate, he taught them how to let their anger and rage and frustration into their fist, into their fights, and that’s exactly what they did, let their anger into the fight, let their frustrations dictate their actions
Robby: Next time we’ll settle this on the mat SHIRTLESS!
Eli/Hawk: *BET*
And without those stupid haircuts!
@@AllRequired none of those haircuts here were even that bad
@@AllRequired Tbh Robby looks way worse without the pony tail. The long hair on either side of his face was.. egh
@@the_infinexos The ponytail reminded me of Terry Silver
@@ayanmakode8227
Now the real pain begins Robby Boy
I can’t stop laughing. After the first point that hawk scores, they announce “one point hawk” and u then hear the squeal of the hawk. Haha
don't celebrate until the fight is over
ROFL i have seen this show like 50 times i just noticed that
@@Ebolacrash lmao I thought I was the only one who's seen this show 50 times
i thought it was a whistle
im telling u thats whats making hawk so badass
When Daniel clapped his hands and started rubbing them together, only to call for a medic, that had me lmao! I love the silly, self-referential moments on this show.
HAHAHAHA I LOVE THAT PART
Daniel is using Miyagi's ki healing?
oh no nevermind hes just teasing it goddammit
well yeah his been busy with family after his time of being a karate kid was over....and he didn't even or probably didn't ask Miyagi on how to use that kind of healing hands....and yeah when i saw that too i was like "You kidding me...."...XP
wakute keeble
That's why I want Miyagi back in season 2 as a spirit so he can teach Daniel healing hand and taught Johnny the true meaning of karate.
I bet what went through his head was something like: "Alright. So i guess you do this........T..........h.........e...........n......Oh i forgot"
"MEDIC!"
I was like damn shit bout to go down
Loved how Miguel pulls him down like "WTF is wrong with you?"
DmonHiro Even Miguel knew he'd gone too far
Yes that was a nice touch. Miguel is actually a good guy
hawk reminds me of young johnny
@@jrtime8092 More like Dutch.
Hamza Khaliq yeah
1:47 Damn
And considering what happened in s4, Robby really hated that haircut 😅
Looks like he made him a "promise"
Hawk has the best hair
Hawk was aggressive and bold, but they made him lose fights to everyone in the show including the giant nerd. WTF?
His girlfriend left him for another girl
He had months of trianing and the nerd blocked some punches? wtf? truly? it made me snark.
Once a geek always a geek I guess (in movies at least)
@@dezlovecraft5247 its simple, hawk underestimated him
@@Star-nl5id I don't think you know how life works, how muscle and trainning does lol its a fiction story yeah, but it was so stupid that it broke the "suspension of disbelief" just like a soup story
Compare this to the season 4 finale and you'll see how far hawk has come. The parallel in season 4 with Hawk being Miyagi Do and Robby being Cobra Kai. Hawk was always near Robby's level since the beginning, he almost trained from the very beginning like Miguel, it's just that that plot required Hawk to loose fights in season 2 and 3 when he was the bad guy
So the standings are now 1.Miguel 2.Eli/hawk 3.Robby 4.Demetri 5.kyler 6. Kenny.
@@damianpensamiento6427 Nah I don't think Miguel is above Hawk and Robby, even if it's season 2 Miguel.
@@brothsipper-h5o ya your probably right
@@brothsipper-h5o season 1 he was tho
Exactly ppl saying hawk winning against robby in s4 is unrealistic make no sense
I feel Johnny's pain, he literally had too see his son hurt.
didn't seem to care about him till now
Jesus Christ RIP the weevster18 well... he’s their now.
the best thing in the season!!! when you realise the monster you created it!!!
Ikr my poor baby :(
It wasn't even about Robby it was more about how history repeats itself. You can clearly see it when Miguel fights Robby in the finals.
" ur disqualified "
" BULLSHIT" that shit gets me everytime😂🤣🤣
'What was I supposed to do, be a pussy?' Good on Hawk. While he was wrong to cheat, Johnny had to learn the shortcomings of no mercy.
@@J1283-s1k THAT OART ALSO GOT ME WEAK💀💀
@@ugonwajei9154 Yeah man. Early Hawk was hysterical. Like when he boots Bert in the face at the park
@@J1283-s1k for real😂
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Who would’ve guessed that 4 years later Robby would be on the offensive side and Hawk on the defensive.
*Seasons
1 year later in the Cobra Kai timeline*
Tbh... I kinda did. Since robby has that "next Daniel larusso vibes" So i was like "is robby gon turn cobra kai like daniel did? Imagine tho"
"Medic" that was insanely hilarious. I almost pissed myself I laughed so hard. Im glad they added that though that ability was strictly mr. Miyagi's
That was hilarious
it was a funny moment of subverted expectations done right.
Wonder if we'll see the new "Miyagi" who is Chozen do this for real at some point in the show though? (L.O.L.!)
Anyone else come back to this after season 4 and see the difference in both of their characters?!? Such growth.😍😍
Exactly. Both have matured in their own way and gosh damn the choreography difference. And in the s4 fight. It was the first time they showed respect to one another
Yeah it's come far away
Only this time it was a fair fight no tricks (besides the referee, maybe with that fight) just two badasses battling
Robby in Season 1: Why? Leaving early to fix that stupid haircut?
Robby in Season 4: Fine, I’ll fix it myself…
Lol
Hawk,
Season 1; I'm weak
Season 2; I am a BADA**
Season 3; I was an a**hole
(most of) season 4; Who am I?
Season 4 (last episode); I... am.. Eli, "HAWK"... *defeats Robby* MOSKOWITZ!!!!
@@cooper3814 more like the guy who’s gonna win this whole fuckin thing
@@aldogonzalez137 good one
@Unknown No more Eli, It’s time to uncage the hawk
I love the detail that went into this series. Daniel is great at being a mentor, and the way they cut to Johnny when they talk about 'bad teachers' is a nice touch. They put as much love and attention to detail into this series as they did into the movies, and that makes all the difference IMO. It's not just a big glorified commercial for two middle-aged actors and a thirty-year old trilogy. It's a series that is every bit as authentic and substantial as the movies, probably even moreso. It's a formula that works.
Alex Palmer I couldn't agree with you more
I think that is really meant to touch on how Johnny had a "bad teacher", Johnny was clearly discouraging his own students from acting unethically. Mr Miyagi had his issues too,
Best explanation on why this show works
johnny was conflicted
“He’s not a monster……he’s just a guy with a lot of demons” I always loves this seen so much Johnny has always been my favorite ever since the first movie honestly but this seen beautiful sculpts why I love him so much it’s cause he’s never been bad just had too shed his weak skin and become strong cause that’s all he had his real father is gone his step dad is awful and his mother was all he had plus cobra Kai it’s the only true place that made him belong again those kids weren’t bad they just wanted a peace of the action same as Johnny he wanted that action too and he lives forever with that “bite mark of the cobra” that creese gave him,those are the demons that stay with Johnny
when Johnny was looking at the picture of Kreese I wanted hem to punch it and going all, *PUNCH IT PUNCH IT PUNCH IT*
Just like Kenny is the new black Hawk demon
Pity, Hawk deserved another ending...but let's admit it, he is a COBRA KAI....
Hawk is definitely the next Mike Barnes :)
Robbie is a fine one to talk about stupid haircuts. With that ponytail he looks like a yuppie (80s businessman)
At least Robbie looks like someone who has a job. Unlike Hawk.
stelkin656 Hawk is under age, he cannot work. And Robbie is not an honest worker.
Angel Ochoa P You can work at his age dumbass.
I agree Daniel's speech for what Miyagi told that there's no such things as bad student, only bad teacher. That's true. The student from cobra kai were kind heart 'til they choose the wrong path and turn them into aggressive person.
I would've agreed with Daniel 100% but then I remembered Tommy from Rocky 5
It’s not like they’re in a gang, it’s karate. Look at that short nerd kid with glasses. The support he got from those kids, if this is real life I would’ve send my kid to this dojo.
Instead of creepy one on one session with a grown ass dude.
Cobra kai would be your average MMA Gym (a popular chant in brazil is "tu vas mourir" "you will die"). I think there is nothing wrong with agression if its controlled, Hawk just let his emotions get the better of him and overreacted.
+Tony Mario both of u r right in ur own way! how ever being aggressive dosent have to he controlled its like dogs some dogs r naturally aggressive Akida's there naturally aggressive because there boned to one person! hawk is no exception yes he was bullied because of his they made fun of his lip but some go insane or aggressive because they were bullied hawk let that get the best of him
BS. They need balance and to restrain themselves, but they're much better off now than they were before Cobra Kai.
Would you rather be a little too aggressive of a person, or a suicidal outcast?
I love how Robby was able to block an attack with his eyes closed from both Hawk and Miguel.
yh but your mum didnt see me in her room
louie clare really your mom jokes in 2020 🥴
@@louieclare2567 LMFAOOO
@@louieclare2567 dude stfu you’re not funny in any way possible. You’re like 6 still using your mom jokes in 2020. You’re old news
@@risowhack weeb vs dude making a joke
3:47, the moment when Johnny sees himself becoming Kreese, that's powerful!
I’m starting to wonder if Hawk is going to be the true enemy of the series like he thinks Johnny has taught him nothing and sees Kreese as the stronger teacher
Hawk will find his way
Definitely. Hawks becoming a bully of his own.
@Finn The Goldfish no,you fishhead
Kyler: Am I a joke to you?
@@ActivBowser9177 what
These two have changed so much.
Personality
Sensei
Dojo
Haircut.
Outcome
1:45 That aged like fine wine especially when you consider robby cut it himself
holy shit never realised that
Season 1 Robby- leaving early to fix that stupid haircut?
Season 4 Robby- guess I'll have to fix it for you
No it didn't
1:44 omg foreshadowing to the event of season 4!
Bro u cant do it like that fr XD 😂😂😂😂
Savage
When he jumped on the stage I GOT HYPED!!!!
2:10 Miguel seemed mad at Hawk for what he did to Robby. For those who do not want Miguel to be seen as the villain, here is a very important hint of how he is still a good kid but is just lost in his way of standing up from all the bullying and abuse he suffered. OR this could be Miguel being mad that Hawk did not leave Robby for himself to finish off in the finals
In my opinion, I find it sad how Miguel went from such an innocent good kid who truly cared for his loved ones to such an aggressive person. I'm happy that he learned to defend himself and that he has friends who love him, but seeing him on the path of becoming a bully himself is quite tough
@@asaechao91 have you not seen season 2 ?
@@IndSwagMaster95 Currently on episode 2 of season 2. btw lovely username
Dre Sanic thanks! And wonderful, you are in for a treat. Watch and come back here :)
He looks like his feeding off johnny since johnny look very displeased so when miguel saw that he know hawk was in the wrong
How ironic that Hawk has now joined forces with miyagi-do, and that Robbie is now in Cobra Kai.
Yeah but Hawk becames Calm and Robby becames Angered, Tempered and Aggressive.
Yes Which is why it's ironic
And now teammates again
Did Daniel-san's wife cheat on him with Jack Black, his son looks a lot like Jack Black!
Lol I thought I was the only one who thought he looked like Jack Black.
yep i guess that's why Jack Black. from the school of rock in reply to jendall714. went through the drive through to get some m'c chicken nuggets & ordered a yellow nugget son through the speaker box like he did in his song Tenacious D . & i also guess that's why. his in hear this episode because poison from the 80's had nothing but a good time, to be in this episode. because Jack Black, is a super star rock legend from the Usa,,,,,, You should no by now jendall714. that song born in the usa is a classic my friend. for hard rock music from the classic 80's. the same go's for my favourite band Def Leppard from the 1977. 2 the 1980's & then on from there. & that's really the real truth my good friend. in reply to jendall714 your very welcome. i'm glad i could be of some help to your question & queries. my good old buddy old pal have a nice day & enjoy the sound's of the classic 80's rock music :-) :-) ................
Son?
His son is fat asf
Their baby must’ve been accidentally swapped with someone else’s baby at the hospital, who turns out to have been Anthony! 😂🤣
The whole talk Daniel has with Robby in this scene is sad to watch, considering what happens at the end of season 3.
omg yesss :((
"And your dad, had the worst teacher there ever was. It sent him down a wrong path. But you don't have to go down that path. Do you understand? You don't have to ever become him."
Oh the turntables........
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, and also the part during the match where he remembers his training with Daniel where Daniel tells him to "search for the good inside" and it's just a shot of him closing his eyes and meditating, so sad to look back and see considering what he's like now at the end of S3
Yeah it's pretty sad but he still does have a chance to not end up like Johnny did if both his teacher and dad can save him. I honestly wouldn't have set him up as the villain in s3, i think he should have sworn off karate after what he did. And when shawn and the others pick on him he shouldn't have done anything. And on his time in prison he finds a friend whose life is on danger later in the season but shawn but robby uses miyagi do karate to save him.
I have this feeling that this talk here is what is going to change Robby again. I think that in the s4 tournament, there's going to be a reason where Robby remembers this talk and gives up on Cobra Kai.
0:09 I can’t be the only one who got hyped when the music matched with his landing on the Mat
Did you know Jacob (Hawk) wasn’t told to do that he just help like that’s what his character would do and it was perfect
Why does no one talk about how Daniel said to Robby that his Father was just misguided and wasn't evil, That just shows the remorse that Daniel had for Johnny.
After watching Cobra Kai, I realized something-
Hawk is actually a pretty amazing martial artist in this. I mean, he went up against the top of the top (Robby for example) and was doing well, up until the end. It was then that he got frustrated. I have a feeling that him getting frustrated is what really fucks him over in the end. He is quite the guy, but when it comes to him and his emotions, he can't control himself.
I think he was the better fighter than Robby at that point.
He is for sure
Under Johnny’s cobra Kai (well now, Eagle Fang) I’d say he’s the second best fighter after Miguel
@@lethumthiyane5245 I think he's even better after Miguel's injury
He did beat Robby in season 4
4:22 👏MEDIC!!! Is there a medic!
When your health is low on Team Fortress 2
My poor baby :(
3:15 “I know I never will” *fast forwarding to S5* they’re basically best friends now. 😂
True at that point, but now things have become strained between them again. I hope by the end, they are able to reconcile. After all they’ve been through together, it would be upsetting to end things that way.
That was hilarious at the end. Doing the myagi hand rubbing technique. But nope that wasn't going to work for him lol.
Hawk would have probably won if he never got mad when robby called his haircut stupid
Nah Robby would still because the writers wrote him to win
His downfall is he is a hothead and reacts at the heat of the moment
Nah, the second Robby focuses it’s pretty much over for hawk. Anyways robby destroyed hawk in season 2. In the mall
@@oddestdylan yeah but robby only wins due to plot same how in Karate kid daniel only wins because of plot im sure in a real fight Hawk would win as he has more training
@@organicflayer6629 Robby even beat Miguel technically in season 2. Plus now hawk got jealous Bc everybody in cobra kai liked Robby more. Robby is definitely gonna be even stronger next season
I love the psychology in this fight, I can feel the animosity between these 2 characters that don't even know each other, but we know their backstories and the hate they have.
I liked the fact that Robby found Eli's weakness very fast (His haircut, because that's the source of his confidence and security) Mocking him of being a softy pretender and Eli's reaction showing that Robby is right about him.
If Robby actually found Hawk's weakness he would have said, "If your arms were any skinnier, they'd be invisible."
@@foehawk-od4cc hawk wouldn’t give a crap about his 2inch arms he’d probably stuff them down robby’s throat somehow. Op’s comment about the hawk bring his weakness is right
1:53 That guy behind Daniel just laugh xD
Robby fixed that haircut himself in season 4
Yeah and hawk let him score one lucky point and that was his last
@@profchaos91 Robby learned his lesson tho hopefully he leaves cobra Kai in season 5
@@landon8987 i think johnny Miguel and robby's plotline will be a little deeper and maybe a bit detached fron the whole karate feud next season.
I would be absolutely excited fot Miguel and robby to become an actual tag team and save the myagi dos in the final episode tho
@@profchaos91 yea that would be awesome
And his own.
2:11 i like how Miguel is annoyed at Hawk for fighting dirty but he does that later himself to Robby by targeting his shoulder 🤦♂️ Hawk assisted him in a way.
Ikr 🤦♂️
He was angry about Sam and he took it out on Robby
Well he was not wrong in targeting the shoulder....they are in a competitive tournament...besides the illegal move, nothing was wrong in miguel targeting robbie arm....
@@carboncompounds9377 it’s still dirty
@@bbp2930 yeah...I admit the illegal moves were wrong but targeting the shoulder was nothing wrong...I mean if you play a soccer game and you know that your opponent team has a player completely unskilled wouldn't you pass the ball to the players near him since he's a noob?
I'm so glad Robby got a haircut the last 2 seasons.
Their rematch was amazing as hell.
I wonder why hawk got his ass kicked so many times in season 2 ? Like he was so freakin’ epic in the competition and all against robby...
He did nothing epic against Robby.
Hawk is your average karate class bully. The one who came by the mat once every two weeks to release pressure and waste newbies. Therefore, it makes him strong enough to deal with weaklings or less agressive fighters, but no match for skilled ones. Miguel has dedication, kime(confidence and accuracy) and is a natural technician. Robbie is approaching Miguel's level in S2, making Hawk a sandbag for both. I like Hawk though.
Plot
@@ThePenroseIncident I disagree if given the chance hawk will fight anyone like in the finale he fought eight people from m do. Also he can slide many of the skilled fighters including Robby. Hawk focuses more on strength rather than technical which makes him more aggressive and in theory less of a challenge but that couldn't be further from the truth hawk is a pretty capable fighter in the standards of their show. Also hawk is dedicated to the dojo as he threatened to beat up his best friend who might I add he had included in everything up until that point over a yelp review that's dedication to a craft.
@@jackieboy0005 I see your point, Hawk is bad-ass and i actually like his way of fighting and his evolution.
What I mean is that Hawk isn't a natural like Miguel or Johnny. I don't consider Robby being superiorly skilled neither, I'd say his plot armor makes him look like he is. Miguel is the best fighter amongst the kids IMO, while Johnny is actually the most skilled adult in CK S1 et S2 (That might change if Chozen stars in S3). I'm sorry if my opinion sounds quite subjective though, I train in martial arts for 30 years now it's mostly my guts speaking lol.
0:09 Badass intro on stage! With badass music to!
From the “ONE POINT HAWK” *EEEEE* to Larusso saying that line so weird “Rememba whatya learned Robbyy” this scene is just awesome 😂
Hahaha i love the hawk sound effect when he scored a point
Who’s here after their big rematch in season 4?
Me!!!
Who's here after watching the showdown of Hawk/Eli vs Robby in Season 4?
It's incredibly awesome to see just how far these 2 characters have come
I am here for sure fight growth right here forsure .
He didn't need that stupid haircut, anyway.
Man, Hawk had that in the bag if he hadn't done that illegal shit.
Definitely curious to see how they handle him next season.
Probably going to be all over Kreese next season when/if Kreese takes over and approves of the "No Mercy" methods that Hawk is enforcing for Cobra Kai.
I'd like to see a rematch
the jay he got frustrated because even after he got a bad ass haircut someone still bullied him you prolly don't know how that feels like
Let’s not forget Robbie insulted him
Hawk got that haircut because he wanted to show that he could be more than that little dweeb, then Robby insulted him over it so yeah he got mad
I'm just coming back to watch their first fight compared to their last fight in season 4. Great character development really.
Not sure why everyone is suprised hawk won Miguel is still recovering and this fight shows hawk is as good as robby minus the cheap shot
bro robby and hawk obviously admire each other now... best fight of the series
Robby can’t handle aggression fighting aggressive himself he’s better at defense and Hawk took his experience from being in cobra Kai and now Miagi Dojo and combined both to beat Robby
Had to rewatch this after season 4, you are right... Hawk might have won if he didn't get disqualified. The writing on this series is brilliant.
@@ReiviewTV got destroyed at the mall fight tho
@@123cfc3 He didn't get destroyed. He got kicked in the head. Hawk elbowed Robby as well. Hardly being destroyed
1:45 "Leaving early to fix that stupid haircut" 3 seasons later Robby did it himself lmao.
U mean a Season later
@@TheLuthorri this was season 1, he “fixed” his hair in season 4, that’s what he meant when he said 3 seasons later, 1+3=4.
“Fine, I’ll fix it myself”
Robby also gets rid of his ponytail.
Hawk and Robby are two polar opposites. Hawk was born shy and harmless leading him to become a bully victim, which made him go all raging bully to compensate for that. Robby grew up in a troubled family, leading to him becoming a delinquent, doing a bunch of criminal acts, which toughened him up, but not learning how to restraint his anger and demonstrate kindness. Something he learned through Miyagi Do.
Watching this and their fight in Season 4 back to back is such a mindfuck.
Ok but where was robby walking to when he turned his back? All he had to do was take 2 steps back but instead looks like he's walking off the mat. I didnt hear him call a time out either.
I think Robbie was being sneaky and got hawk angry on purpose to get him disqualified
"Ok but where was robby walking to when he turned his back?"
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I'm guessing he was walking back to the "line". Although there was no literal "line" on the mat to mark where you're supposed to stand, both fighters go back behind the line after each round. Admittedly he was walking way too far off.
@@Jetrules231 OMG literally everything robby does people hate him for it bcuz they are just bias
I’m guessing the like was the yellow edges, and he was about to turn around
@@ninjaman7123 Robby sucks
i like how in one year they both completely switched dojos
0:03 I didn’t know Joe Biden is Cobra Kai lol
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broooo such a hype when hawk jump in to the ring and starts that insanee music
I got to say comparing this to Robby vs Eli season 4 is like night and day , both of their acting and fighting have improved substantially
I've gotten so used to his red mohawk XD It's weird seeing the blue one again.
I hope it gets green but the trailer shows red so I'm sad
I like his blue mohawk
And then you barely see the purple Mohawk 🤣🤣🤣
Hawk: Jumps on mat
Robby: 0:09 Why do I hear boss music?
See? Anyone who says Daniel is the villain needs to see this. This is who Daniel is. He may never be friends with Johnny but he will always do what's right. People need to stop looking at the story in black and white extremes.
That's the thing. Daniel always thinks he's doing the right thing. By what exactly? Accusations? Starting Miyagi Do again despite already having a prosperous life? He's the one being spiteful. And every one of those traits were inherited by Sam in the ABSOLUTE WORST. She's so self righteous, entitled, and so damn hypocritical on what she did to Miguel, Aisha and even Tory. She's a literal goody two shoes who doesn't know JACKSHIT about true kindness.
@@memecliparchives2254 so i see you do not like sam, and yea sam is the worst.
@@memecliparchives2254 also thats not true, that was not even implied in the comment what do you mean thats the thing, he just said that this is who daniel is, he motivates, he teaches.
Let’s not act like when his student possibly crippled Miguel he didn’t say I won’t let cobra Kai get away with this like he didn’t create that monster
@@memecliparchives2254 you are defending tory like... Really ? She is like the worst of them all lol
Lol 1:43 "Why leaving early to fix that stupid haircut", oh my god that kid has my respect in this scene.
Lol
The haircut was the foundation of Eli's new personality, so the insult hit him deep at the core.
1:51 thats what happend!
He didn’t have the best haircut either
And guess what he got seconds later? Lmao
Robby did fix that haircut
LMFAO!!
Their rematch was 10 times better lol. But this still good tho
Season 1; one cobra vs a bonsai
Season 4; a cobra in a bonsai vs a bonsai grown from a cobra
It looks like Miguel didn’t approve of hawks actions either
he wasnt fully corrupted at that point.
@@rikusalenius4265 I'm not anyway
@@hawk484 good for you but i was talking about miguel not you.
@@rikusalenius4265 I was not corrupted, and im not now, and u were talking about me
@@hawk484 no need to be defensive and yes i was talking about miguel not you the fact that miguel didnt aprove hawk cheapshotting robby from behind which by the way doesnt make you a badass but a wuss.
I really want to know what song is on Hawk's entrance to first point...
2:10 this is the first time that I noticed but Miguel got angry at Hawk for that, just shows that he is a true sportsman deep inside
They were angry in s2 too
Miguel attacked Robby's shoulder and yanked his hand when Robby was helping him get up.
Yeah what a great sportsmanship from Miguel
00:11 The weird badass Sound of Red Hawk has it's debut in blue hawk's final season Fight.
Like that they reused that Sound in his most aggressive situations.
What is music?
That fake out, it had me going
Dave Richards lol
I was hoping he knew how to do the hand thing but when he yelled for a medic I was so upset
Robby is my favorite character in this show because just like his father he changed over the course of the season. Johnny and Robby should get together privately to train against the new cobra Kai regime led by Reese. I can imagine Robby using a mixed style and him and his father bonding over little things.
Rw Chitown he can still join cobra kai and learn from his father and bond and he can be the first person to ever learn the both style of cobra kai and miygi dojo karate
The writers are trying to make Robby the good guy. Trying so hard.
@@majone1231 Daniel needs to ally with Johnny to find Robby, before it's too late!
I like how even though Daniel says here that he'll never like Johnny, they did manage to bond, however briefly. If like is out of the question, maybe respect has a chance.
“Leaving early to fix that stupid haircut?”
Cuts Hawks hair off in season 4
Robby in Season 4: “Fine, I’ll fix if myself.”
And also fixed his long one too, is was stupid as well
Robby is in no place to be calling hawks haircut stupid when he looks like Betty brant😂
Lol loved the tease of the old rubbing the hands together magic bs from the 1st movie lol. Miyagi was a literal magician
*1:48** That was Johnny's problem. He never taught his students emotional control. Only if someone offended you, would you have to attack brutally, without fear and mercy.*
I like Daniel’s face when he sees Johnny confronting Hawk... in that very moment Daniel realised that Johnny changed and the fact that he’s not Kreese.
Slaps hands together medic the funniest thing i have ever seen 😂😂🤣
😂
Mr Myiagi style
I really feel bad for Hawk, not because of the fight, but because of how this is basically everything he’s learned from the world with Johnny’s motto of No Mercy and how merciless the world was to him. When a reject finally learns to stand up for themselves it’s gonna take a long time to learn when boundaries are placed
Cobra Kai has a really good formula. 10 eps per season leaving little room for filler (though I wish there were a few more, cause there was potential), the throwbacks, the characters’ individual stories, even the humor. I love Cobra Kai and now I need to start it again
Mr Miagi showed Daniel how to kick ass but never the rubbing hands technique?
this scene hits different after season 4
My my. How the tables have turned.
Hawk is worse than Miguel, change my mind
nothing to change, you are right
Well I’m kinda scared of your ugly face no I won’t your right
At least Miguel didn't go getting a dumb haircut.
@Calvin Ellis Peroid
Hodor miguel did nothing wrong.
This was a most interesting turn of events: first of all it took Johnny's own flesh and blood to get hurt by such dirty tactics that he employed to get him to reconsider his ways (at least for the time); secondly the student's (mainly both Hawk and Miguel) really embodied the spirit of Cobra Kai (no mercy and ruthless aggression) in a way that was next level in this tournament.
Unlike the other kids who made fun of Eli's lip, Robby insults his hair. Something he can control.
anyone else hear the hawk squeal in the background after hawk got his first point. that’s sick!
0:09 that jump and that music makes hawk look like a final boss in a video game lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Damn this really parallel's the season 4 ending fight so well, both of them swap sides, they both come from different sides, in here the miyagi student just regains his confidence and the cobra kai student is always aggresive. Hawk's first fight with rob ended with a disqualification, then in his final one ended with him winning grand champion. FUCK
I’m surprised they didn’t do an eye for an eye as in Robby would cheat, I’m glad they didn’t despite what everyone else’s thoughts he’s still my favorite
And no stupid haircuts.
POV: Your watching this after season 4 and amazed at how much Hawk has developed
01:54 - one of the reasons why Johnny’s become my favourite character.
Well of course thats his son.
The way Miguel pushed Hawk really expresses their strong bond
Hawk has the same overconfident smirk when he bows in every season.
Love how Robby was like fix that stupid hair cut. Ok man bun
Looks better than that cyberpunk shit
After seeing this, Robby giving Hawk that haircut served him right.
How dare you 😢
Yeah. I was happy seeing that scene. Lol
Tragic how Robby ended up fighting in the end for Sam’s honor and still ended up being the villain. Same.
0:08 BADASS
I cringed lmao. “Prepare to face the fury of the hawk” 😂😬
Who's here after Season 4!